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Belgrade invited Sergei Shoigu to assess the combat readiness of the Serbian army

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Serbian Minister of Defense Alexander Vulin invited the head of the Russian military department Sergey Shoigu to visit Belgrade and evaluate the latest achievements of the Serbian army.


Belgrade invited Sergei Shoigu to assess the combat readiness of the Serbian army


At a meeting of defense ministers of the two countries on Saturday, the head of the Serbian military department gave Shoigu a personal invitation from the President of Serbia, Alexander Vucic, to visit Belgrade and assess the combat readiness of the country's armed forces. At the same time, he said that Serbia is not going to join NATO and will remain a neutral country.

As you know, in the military sense, Serbia is a neutral state, and it will remain so. As long as President Vučić leads the country, she will not be a member of NATO, she will choose her friends and decide what to do. Our President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief Alexander Vucic sends you the warmest greetings and his personal invitation to come to Belgrade, to Serbia, to personally see how the Serbian army advanced ahead thanks to your personal participation, has become more combat-ready

- said Vulin, adding that the more battle-worthy the Serbian army is, the more peace there is in the Balkans.

Recall that Russia handed over four Mi-35 combat helicopters to Serbia, three transport helicopters - Mi-17, 10 tanks T-72 and 20 combat reconnaissance and patrol vehicles, while part of the military equipment was donated. Earlier, Serbian pilots received 6 MiG-29 fighters. It is also reported that Belgrade has shown interest in purchasing the S-300 and Tor and Buk air defense systems.

Meanwhile, it became known that the Serbian military will take part in the Victory Parade on Red Square on 9 on May 2020. The honorary company of the Serbian presidential guard will be held in the same ranks with the Russian military. The invitation for the participation of the Serbian army in the parade was conveyed by Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu during the closing ceremony of the international army games.

Defense Minister Shoigu (...) invited President Vučić, as well as our honorary company, to take part in the parade in honor of the 75 anniversary of the Victory. We won together, we must celebrate together. The army of Serbia will be on Red Square on 9 in May together with its Supreme Commander-in-Chief, with all the other victorious states, with all of us who fought against fascism, as representatives of the free peoples that we were then and which we are now

- said the Minister of Defense of Serbia.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 18 August 2019 08: 58
    +7
    Ah, in the spring of 1999, the Minister of Defense had to go to Belgrade ... Not just one, but with a couple of divisions.
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 09: 05
      +20
      Quote: Thrall
      Ah, in the spring of 1999, the Minister of Defense had to go to Belgrade ... Not just one, but with a couple of divisions.

      In 1999, they sorted it out in their own Caucasus ... Yes, and with such a president as the EBN and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Kozyrev there was no room to twitch ...
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 18 August 2019 11: 21
        +6
        The Foreign Ministry was headed by Igor Ivanov.
        1. Andrey Chistyakov
          Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 39
          +3
          Quote: Sergej1972
          The Foreign Ministry was headed by Igor Ivanov.

          Yes, my mistake. Ivanov. To blame.
    2. seti
      seti 18 August 2019 09: 17
      -12
      Quote: Thrall
      Ah, in the spring of 1999, the Minister of Defense had to go to Belgrade ... Not just one, but with a couple of divisions.

      And Belarusians to take with you. Your words are criminal. Once signed up for the Serbs 100 years ago we had enough. Are you not? They are like brothers to us, but they must fight for themselves, it’s enough to shed Russian blood for strangers around the world. And pay the millions of lives of our compatriots and millions of unborn, the collapse of the empire. An example of Bulgarians is an eyesore. The Serbs have not grown to this and are unlikely to grow, but I want my compatriots to be full of Russia and the living. Other wars we do not need.
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 18 August 2019 09: 23
        +2
        Quote: seti
        Once signed for the Serbs 100 years ago

        So they didn’t fit in for the Serbs, but worked out French loans. Well, the straits wanted to grab, so that Russian bread is even easier to export to Europe.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 18 August 2019 09: 54
          0
          And with the straits! How the Britons "cheated" Nicholas, and he "cheated"! good
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 09: 57
            -1
            Quote: Nycomed
            How the Britons "lit" Nikolai

            but how did they bred him?
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 18 August 2019 10: 43
              +2
              They promised him that in the event of the victory of the "Entente" in the war, Russia would gain control over the straits. But, of course, they were not going to give up the straits. But it turned out that the Russian army was doing much better on the Turkish front than on the German-Austrian. And here the Britons began to "scratch their turnips", quite reasonably believing that the Russians could very quickly find themselves in Istanbul. And then that's it. But promises must be kept. But I don't want to ... And then Churchill came up with the idea of ​​landing in Gallipoli, like, if the Russians get to Istanbul, and we are already there. And that's all, shish you soyuznichki, not the straits. But the story turned out quite differently. But the fact is the fact. Nicholas was caught in the straits like a crucian carp on a hook. Nobody was going to give him the straits.
              1. Pedrodepackes
                Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 10
                +1
                Quote: Nycomed
                And then Churchill came up with the idea of ​​landing in Gallipoli,

                and so, the landing was a success?
                but the contract is left:
                The great success of S. D. Sazonov as a diplomat is the agreement with England and France of 1915 that, after the victorious end of the World War, the Black Sea Straits and Constantinople will pass to Russia. Sazonov undertook negotiations with the British and French ambassadors on such a burning issue for the country, according to him, on his personal responsibility, without asking the tsar’s permission in advance and devoting any member of the Russian government to his intentions. Sazonov had to mobilize all his diplomatic skills, use the prevailing military-political situation, the difficulties of the allies on the Western Front to force them to sign the corresponding agreement.
                The allies then sputtered with bloody snot, the United States did not enter the war yet, and the Germans pressed, but things were going well on our Southern Front. But .... history does not know the subjunctive moods
              2. Babur_Imperat
                Babur_Imperat 18 August 2019 12: 12
                -17
                You just console yourself with these words, the Ottoman Empire, with the help of Allah, the Lord of the worlds, defeated all of you, they fought with obsolete weapons against the Russian Empire in the Caucasus and in the west with the combined army of the British Empire, the French Empire, Australia, New Zealand and the Greeks but with the help of Allah, the Lord of the worlds won and preserved the state, you, with all your financial and military capabilities, could not conquer the Turks, real warriors in the world are Turks, Uiston Churchill was confident in capturing Istanbul, but he was mistaken in forgetting who his enemy was.
                1. Nycomed
                  Nycomed 18 August 2019 12: 19
                  +10
                  The Ottoman Empire ceased to exist as a result of the WWI, was fragmented into English and French spheres of influence (mandates). Let the Turks say thanks that they did not directly touch Turkey and did not form an independent Kurdistan there.
                  1. Babur_Imperat
                    Babur_Imperat 18 August 2019 18: 09
                    -1
                    All you wanted to take up above the Turks but received tens of thousands of coffins, you fought an unequal battle with the Turks, you yourself know this very well, our soldiers in paradise, may Allah the Lord of the Worlds award them with the best rewards on a great day.
                    1. Nycomed
                      Nycomed 18 August 2019 18: 16
                      -2
                      I wish your fallen warriors more magnificent chests in Paradise! yes
              3. maiman61
                maiman61 18 August 2019 13: 08
                +4
                And the essence of that fable is that - NEVER believe the Anglo-Saxons!
      2. ROBIN-SON
        ROBIN-SON 18 August 2019 12: 38
        0
        Yeah. So drown for the Serbs. Few for the Bulgars, Chinese, Koreans, Vietnamese and others fought? Add the whole Europe here. Tens of millions of young men and women laid down how many children died .. And what did they have? A impoverished population that looks with envy at the vanquished and envies them. True Ukra is even lower. Though it calms. If something happens, who will marry us? NONE. We are a self-sufficient country, a smart people. We can live the best of all. That's what you take care of.
        Let Shoigu come and see. Will make a verdict - unfit, train.
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 18 August 2019 15: 46
        +1
        Perhaps I agree with you: we helped a lot, and now they consider it their duty to kick us. And a lot of examples
    3. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 09: 59
      -6
      Quote: Thrall
      Yes, not one, but with a couple of three divisions.

      Putin complained here that in order to repel the Chechen invasion of Dagestan, he could not assemble a combat-ready army, what divisions are you talking about?
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 10: 53
        +4
        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        Quote: Thrall
        Yes, not one, but with a couple of three divisions.

        Putin complained here that in order to repel the Chechen invasion of Dagestan, he could not assemble a combat-ready army, what divisions are you talking about?

        You really agree to the end then what he said about this.
        And then, as usual, they stopped for half a sentence ... The republics did not give their guys to the army. Somehow, Bashkortostan-Tatarstan, then, at all "stops".
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 10: 58
          -4
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          The republics did not give their guys to the army. Like Bashkortostan-Tatarstan further along all the "stops".

          Do you think this is the case? After all, we do not have the territorial principle of recruitment into the army. Actually, he complained that according to the lists we have a army of many thousands, but in reality everyone was in the headquarters, and not under arms. And then, for a trip to Yugoslavia you think
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          Bashkortostan-Tatarstan
          more willing
          Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
          gave their guys to the army
          , I think that Russian mothers would also not be very happy about this.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 03
            +2
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            The republics did not give their guys to the army. Like Bashkortostan-Tatarstan further along all the "stops".

            Do you think this is the case? After all, we do not have the territorial principle of recruitment into the army. Actually, he complained that according to the lists we have a army of many thousands, but in reality everyone was in the headquarters, and not under arms. And then, for a trip to Yugoslavia you think
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            Bashkortostan-Tatarstan
            more willing
            Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
            gave their guys to the army
            , I think that Russian mothers would also not be very happy about this.

            I quoted you verbatim.
            1. Pedrodepackes
              Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 19
              -5
              Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
              I quoted you verbatim.

              Can I have a link to the whole performance?
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 22
                +2
                Quote: Pedrodepackes
                Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                I quoted you verbatim.

                Can I have a link to the whole performance?

                Try to find it yourself.
                1. Pedrodepackes
                  Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 23
                  -5
                  Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                  Try to find it yourself.

                  I see ... I knew that.
                  1. Andrey Chistyakov
                    Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 24
                    +3
                    Quote: Pedrodepackes
                    Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                    Try to find it yourself.

                    I see ... I knew that.

                    Well yes. So do I. As it was convenient for you, so they wrote. When you were reminded, immediately "I knew it"
                    1. Pedrodepackes
                      Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 30
                      -2
                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      When you were reminded

                      Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                      How was it convenient for you?
                      1. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Pedrodepackes
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        When you were reminded

                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        How was it convenient for you?

                        Well, you were the first to write. Or will you argue?
                      2. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 18 August 2019 12: 30
                        0
                        Andrei, but do not give the exile - is that the principle then? out of harm? I also did not find such words of GDP .. google
                      3. Pedrodepackes
                        Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 15: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        Or will you argue?

                        No, I won’t, because we are not in the sandbox, who is the first ... the thing is that I wrote what I heard at a press conference of Putin, therefore, honestly, I can’t give a link. And you rushed to incriminate me, and, so I believe,
                        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
                        as usual, stopped half a phrase ..

                        we have one source. By the way, about the guys from the national republics, I heard from the mouth of the president, the question is only in what way it was said. So I asked you for a link to me for general development, and you threw offenses, but you still didn’t give the link. It turns out your words against my words. Well then, it remains to speculate logically, and the logic here is this, after repelling the invasion of Dagestan, a certain Serdyukov was appointed to the post of Minister of Defense, who was engaged in reformatting the army (as we did, we will leave it for other debates) is a fact, and no one was reformatting the republics, and we have never really been particularly interested in the religion of a person before the war, this is also a fact. hi
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 August 2019 11: 28
          +1
          Well, firstly, only 15% of the Russian population lives in all republics. Secondly, Tataria and Bashkiria always carried out the draft plan, including in the 90s. And riot police from these republics were in Chechnya.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 18 August 2019 11: 32
            -1
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Well, firstly, only 15% of the Russian population lives in all republics. Secondly, Tataria and Bashkiria always carried out the draft plan, including in the 90s. And riot police from these republics were in Chechnya.

            You do not say these words to me, but to Putin. I wrote a gag.
            When the Basayevites invaded Dagestan, there was already a military operation.
            OMON has other functions.
  2. Mixanchik
    Mixanchik 18 August 2019 09: 01
    +5
    First, a pro-Western government would not hurt to change, and then they looked and helped! And now they are flirting with Russia, and tomorrow they will join NATO. We won’t be able to do it anymore, we have learned the bitter experience of the last decades
  3. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 09: 01
    +1
    The head of the Serbian military department gave Shoigu a personal invitation from the President of Serbia, Alexander Vucic, to visit Belgrade and assess the combat readiness of the country's armed forces.
    But Shoigu is a major specialist in this, or what? Well, except if he comes with his retinue.
    1. Errr
      Errr 18 August 2019 09: 25
      -3
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      But Shoigu is a major specialist in this, or what? Well, except if he comes with his retinue.
      It is imperative that with retinue. And so that the main specialist in this suite on helicopters must be Mr. Serdyukov! laughing
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 09: 56
        -2
        Quote: Herrr
        It is imperative that with retinue.

        Yes .... judging by the minuses to us, we still have a lot of believers in television and who do not know the biography of Shoigu and Serdyukov. laughing
        1. Dietmar
          Dietmar 18 August 2019 10: 19
          -1
          And you, apparently, are the biographer of these two persons?
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 10: 21
            +1
            Quote: Dietmar
            And you, apparently, are the biographer of these two persons?

            And you, apparently, Google is banned?
          2. Nycomed
            Nycomed 18 August 2019 12: 35
            -1
            I know the biographer Serdyukov for sure: this is Mrs. Vasilyeva. love
        2. Errr
          Errr 18 August 2019 10: 21
          -1
          hi And the speed of information analysis clearly loses the speed of work on the keyboard. laughing
    2. demo
      demo 18 August 2019 09: 57
      +3
      The Minister of Defense does not need to be a major specialist.
      Also, a major specialist (in what area?) Will never become the Minister of Defense.
      Functionality is different for them.
      Read the duties of the Minister of Defense.
      There is too much of everything that a specialist in any field is unlikely to like to do.
      But you must!
      Shoigu will take along with a dozen other specialists from different branches and types of troops, from the General Staff, from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc.
      And they will appreciate.
      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 10: 00
        -4
        Quote: demo
        The Minister of Defense does not need to be a major specialist.

        Maybe you're right, maybe .... but, you read the article, in what capacity is he invited?
        Quote: demo
        Shoigu will take along with a dozen other specialists from different branches and types of troops, from the General Staff, from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, etc.
        And they will appreciate.
        Well, yes ... you didn’t even force a small message
        Quote: Pedrodepackes
        Well, except if he comes with his retinue.
        1. demo
          demo 18 August 2019 10: 04
          0
          Our President and Supreme Commander-in-Chief Alexander Vucic sends you the warmest greetings and his personal invitation to come to Belgrade, to Serbia, to personally see how the army of Serbia advanced thanks to your personal participation, has become more combat-ready

          - said Vulin, adding that the more battle-worthy the Serbian army is, the more peace there is in the Balkans.


          Shoigu will act as a measure of the distance that the army of Serbia has overcome! hi
          What is not clear here ?!
          And in order for the grateful Serbian people to see a living initiator and assistant, for this Shoigu goes!
          Is it logical hi
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 10: 20
            -4
            Quote: demo
            And in order for the grateful Serbian people to see a living initiator and assistant, for this Shoigu goes!

            that is, as an icon, this is what I had in mind when I wrote
            Quote: Pedrodepackes
            Well, except if he comes with his retinue.
          2. ROBIN-SON
            ROBIN-SON 18 August 2019 12: 42
            0
            Yeah, they gave Kosovo without a fight. This is the same if we gave Moscow and Leningrad to the Germans. But our people did not give.
            1. demo
              demo 18 August 2019 12: 53
              0
              Kosovo for the Serbs, this is Kiev for the Russians.
              It was there that the birth of the Serbian nation was going on, it was there that the primary significant events took place.
              I can’t cite analogues of the struggle of the Serbian people in our Moscow and Leningrad.
              Maybe the site has Serbs or more deeply familiar with the history of the people?
              They will prompt.
    3. Cat man null
      Cat man null 18 August 2019 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      But Shoigu is a major specialist in this, or what? Well, except if he comes with his retinue.

      Amuse such comments. Really amuse.

      Man, did you personally at least ever, at least have something more complicated unloading potatoes from the machine to the floor - did you manage?

      The manager is not required to go into details. And you don't have to be a "specialist in everything". Moreover, he must be able to use the "narrow specialists" at his disposal. This is, sorry, the alphabet.

      This is a first approximation. And so - PMBook in your hands, check out at your leisure. Pts not stupid, by the way, a book yes

      1. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 10: 29
        -3
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        The manager is not required to delve into the details.
        the fact is that we and the country are in one place now, because the leaders work on the principle that
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        The head is not obliged to delve into the details
        therefore, journalists launch rockets into outer space, river commanders command sports, the previous such leader of the Ministry of Defense very carefully rebuilt the army, and now we are rolling back. And you, as I understand it, have already mastered the operation to
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        unloading potatoes from the machine to the floor

        Congratulations! hi
        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 18 August 2019 10: 38
          +1
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          with us and country in one place now

          This is purely your opinion, I note ...

          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          because managers work on the principle that

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          The head is not obliged to delve into the details

          And that tooby the way.

          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          journalists launch rockets into space, river men command sports, the previous such head of the Moscow Region, very competently rebuilt the army

          Well, I wondered ... laughing

          My friend, on the topic, except for agitation - what is the thread? Let me remind you, the initial feed -

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          The manager is not required to go into details. And you don't have to be a "specialist in everything". Wherein he must be able to use the "narrow specialists" at his disposal

          Any commets on that? wink

          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          Congratulations

          I do not recommend trolling me. Many tried, "some are no longer there, but those are far away" (c) yes
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 12
            -3
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            I do not recommend trolling me.

            Well, yes, the troll troll is a futile business, and you are not interested
            1. Cat man null
              Cat man null 18 August 2019 11: 20
              0
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              ... troll troll unpromising business

              Well, why ... I get wink

              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              Yes, and you are not interested

              Clear. "The grapes are green," and the campaigns, the campaign, are over.

              Broke, break the bucket (s). And how he started beautifully -

              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              ... journalists launch rockets into outer space, river men command sports, the previous such leader of the Moscow Region, very competently rebuilt the army ...

              RIP yes
              1. Pedrodepackes
                Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 21
                -5
                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Well, why ... I get

                so am I about the same thing, there are no facts; one is trolling the balcony, self-criticism. a good thing laughing
                1. Cat man null
                  Cat man null 18 August 2019 11: 23
                  -2
                  Quote: Pedrodepackes
                  no facts one trolling the balcony

                  Ummm ... there was (my) statement that you undertook to refute ... but somehow it did not work out for you.

                  And this is a fact.

                  And throwing garbage in the comments is just the habit of trolls ... to whom you, my friend, belong. Over yes
                  1. Pedrodepackes
                    Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 17: 16
                    +1
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    was (my) statement, which you undertook to refute ... but somehow it did not work out for you.

                    Your statement, to put it mildly, is unfounded. Take, for example, Korolev and Rogozin. Korolev - went through all the steps from the engineer for copying parts and assemblies of the V-2, to the designer of space rocket systems, the chairman of the Council of Chief Designers of the USSR. Under his leadership, Soviet cosmonautics excelled in the space race. Now we are all controlled by Rogozhin, and what are the successes? The GLONASS submarine group is growing, and the launch and testing dates are shifting to the right all the time.
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    The manager is not required to delve into the details.
                    But how to lead?
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    does not have to be a "specialist in everything".
                    Well, at least in the area that he leads, should he know something?

                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Moreover, he must be able to use the "narrow specialists" at his disposal
                    and how he will be able to use them if he doesn’t even know where the bottleneck is, because he doesn’t
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    specialist.
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    be able to use the "narrow specialists" at his disposal
                    In theory, everything is beautiful, but if not one, but three "narrow specialists" are to blame for the problem, and each pulls the blanket to his side, who is right, who is to blame, who is the judge? To the head not special, each of these "narrow specialists " hang noodles on the ears and be clean. Beria was good, with his administrative resources, he could say, having planted the designers facing each other, that the two enemies of the people would not understand, and the two Communists would find ways to solve the problem. But now is not the 37th year. There is not enough space here to tell how Korolev solved the problems, but if you overcome the Chertok trilogy “People and Missiles”, you will understand how Korolev worked and what it means to be a professional leader.
                    Here are my arguments, and what do you have, besides the statements that you, for the sake of greater importance, quote from yourself?
                    As for trolling ...
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Man, did you personally at least ever, at least have something more complicated unloading potatoes from the machine to the floor - did you manage?
                    - Is it not trolling, but this is where our discussion began. Well, which of us is a troll?
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Troll me - I do not recommend
                    laughing Who needs you? hi
              2. sabakina
                sabakina 18 August 2019 11: 36
                0
                Kotyara, pryuvet! Listen, this don Pedro lured me, reading his posts! Can we send it to Brazil, where there are many wild monkeys?
                1. Pedrodepackes
                  Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 17: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: sabakina
                  This don Pedro lured me, reading his posts!

                  so you don’t read, you’ll be healthier tongue
        2. vladcub
          vladcub 18 August 2019 15: 56
          +4
          But on the sofa we have: 20 defense ministers and garbage knows how many strategists
    4. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 18 August 2019 12: 34
      0
      with "effective" girls .. Comrade lieutenant of the reserve in the uniform of an army general) I am not against Shoigu .. but for example the GDP uniform of a colonel (and a well-deserved one) does not wear ... well, why did you wear it? I would walk in a suit ... it's just unpleasant for me as a serviceman (the army general never even slept in the barracks, and didn't wrap footcloths) ... - at least say something - they don't like jackets in the army and they won't love .. just kill .. even conscripts don't like them ..

      the law on military service "10. The next military rank to a soldier may be awarded ahead of schedule for special personal merits, but not higher than the military rank provided by the state for his military position (position)." the key word is EARLY .. even after disassembling the materiel .. in the army the police colonel will be a lieutenant .. why is the special title retained (indiscriminately why it is) when assigning the next one? in fact, a violation of the law .. and minus gentlemen) there is a violation of the law .. try to refute it, not minuses but brains! and if the brain is not enough, put a "sleeper" I will survive
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 18 August 2019 14: 29
        -2
        so .. one already marked a minus .. without explanation ... sympathize
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 August 2019 09: 01
    +3
    Sorry for Yugoslavia! It was a mighty country. They did not grow together. They didn’t manage to create a single country, they torn into a trifle that now Serbia? Surrounded by ENEMIES from all sides. Cut off from the sea ... How they pulled Montenegro into NATO ... Directly with obstetric forceps ... And pulled. Against the will of the people ... And now what ... It remains to support what remains ...
    1. Pedrodepackes
      Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 09: 13
      -3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Sorry for Yugoslavia!

      and what a pity, Yugoslavia has always been on the counter with us, that under Stalin, that with the rest. Only when they were torn to pieces did Serbia suddenly become an ally.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 18 August 2019 10: 49
        -1
        Yes, Josip Broz was a greater enemy for Stalin than Truman and Churchill put together.
        1. Pedrodepackes
          Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 11: 00
          -1
          Quote: Nycomed
          Josip Broz was a great enemy for Stalin

          Between the countries at that time, the situation escalated to the point that military operations were planned.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 August 2019 11: 33
          +1
          Although, oddly enough, Tito was very upset after the news of Stalin's death.
          1. Nycomed
            Nycomed 18 August 2019 11: 37
            -1
            I think that he also worried after the news of the death of Mao.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 18 August 2019 12: 12
              0
              He never personally communicated with Mao. He had reason to be offended by Stalin, but recognized his merits in the cause of victory over Nazism.
          2. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 18 August 2019 16: 01
            0
            Quote: Sergej1972
            Tito was very upset after the news of Stalin's death.

            Stalin would help, in which case (if the imperialists trample)
    2. creak
      creak 18 August 2019 10: 58
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Sorry for Yugoslavia! It was a mighty country. They did not grow together. They didn’t manage to create a single country, they torn into a trifle that now Serbia? Surrounded by ENEMIES from all sides. Cut off from the sea ... How they pulled Montenegro into NATO ... Directly with obstetric forceps ... And pulled. Against the will of the people ... And now what ... It remains to support what remains ...

      A mighty and monolithic country seemed to be ruled by such a tough leader as Tito who held it in his fist .. However, with his departure, all the interethnic and interreligious contradictions that have accumulated in the country for decades have spilled out ...
      It is enough to see what happened in Yugoslavia during WWII. Along with the struggle against the invaders, which was led by Serbs, Communists and Chetniks, who advocated the restoration of the monarchy. These two forces also fought against each other. Catholics generally proclaimed Croatians. The creation of an independent state, the Croatian Ustashi organized a real genocide of Orthodox Serbs and Muslims. In fact, the country was not only fighting against the Germans, but also a civil war on religious and ethnic grounds. Therefore, there is nothing unexpected in the collapse of the country, a critical mass has accumulated and an explosion has occurred with all the consequences ....
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 18 August 2019 12: 14
        0
        Tito himself at the turn of 60-70 years. began to loosen his grip. And the Constitution of the SFRY of 1974 turned the country into a semi-confederation.
  5. svp67
    svp67 18 August 2019 09: 03
    +4
    Well, if friends invite, then we should go ...
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 18 August 2019 11: 40
      -1
      Quote: svp67
      Well, if friends invite, then we should go ...

      Sergei, of course you need to. But what to do with "shoulder" ones on the air route? After all, they will pester again ...
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 18 August 2019 09: 08
    -1
    It is a pity that Serbia cannot be accepted into Russia. ..
    1. seti
      seti 18 August 2019 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      It is a pity that Serbia cannot be accepted into Russia. ..

      You can accept and I think Serbia at 99% would be glad about this. Do we need it? And how will they then communicate with them if there is no way out by sea, after all, and we will be cut off the air? We would decide with Transnistria with Abkhazia Yu Ossetia and the country 4o4. Moreover, Belarus looms on the horizon with its two-faced president.
    2. boss
      boss 18 August 2019 09: 22
      0
      why is it impossible?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 18 August 2019 12: 10
        0
        Do they want to? They have their own history, culture, state and political traditions. Plus, they, like the southern Slavs in general, are great lovers of parliamentarism and democracy.
        1. boss
          boss 19 August 2019 14: 04
          0
          these are all nuances, I replied to, I quote, "it's a pity that Serbia cannot be accepted into Russia."
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 18 August 2019 09: 20
    -1
    Suvorov has not yet been born that would bring Europe to its knees. Well, all sorts of "brothers" are always ready to shove the bandwagon.
    In this situation - a positive decision, at least some, but an ally.
  8. Nycomed
    Nycomed 18 August 2019 09: 20
    +1
    "As long as the country is governed by President Vucic, it will not be a NATO member; it will choose its friends and decide what to do."
    Vucic is not eternal, in this regard the word is interesting "UNTIL". recourse
    1. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 18 August 2019 09: 27
      0
      Quote: Nycomed
      Vucic is not eternal, in this regard the word "BYE" is interesting

      Yes. Moreover, the presidents are the masters of their words, and can take back. As the saying goes: "Please treat this with understanding."
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 18 August 2019 09: 20
    +1
    ... As long as President Vucic leads the country, she will not be a member of NATO ...
    As that confuses this quote. It sounds like a demand for all-round support from the leadership in exchange for the country's exchange rate, and a demand that turns into a threat and blackmail. In general, the Serbian army should of course be stepped up as long as the neighbors, who have Serbia in the ring, still allow it. And what about the trip ..? Of course you can go, just the point? Unless in order to once again indicate support and, on the occasion of their arrival, solemnly hand over to the Serbian side a couple of three military nishtyaks to spite the rest of the "hot Balkan guys" and their curators ..
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 18 August 2019 09: 30
      -1
      Here's the key word: BYE. request
    2. seti
      seti 18 August 2019 09: 30
      0
      Yes, take Serbia to NATO do not go to a fortuneteller. But only here is the question for the beneficial owners of NATO themselves - they then understand the value of such allies as the same Serbia or Montenegro with Bulgaria. The USSR also had many friends and allies. There was a whole Warsaw Pact. But everyone held on to a long ruble. The ruble was gone and the allies were gone. Suggests similar trends.
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 18 August 2019 09: 42
        0
        Quote: seti
        Yes, take Serbia to NATO do not go to a fortuneteller.

        Likely . Not by washing, so by rolling. But as long as it goes peacefully, then for us it is a gain in time. Will explain . In general, I consider Serbia to be an indicator of the coming Big Mix. As long as the processes of being drawn into NATO are proceeding in a peaceful, dirty-political way, this leaves us still room for maneuver. When we see that Serbia is being pulled with the help of aggression, then the West considers itself ready and begins to clean up the splinters in its rear. This means that we should immediately get ready or, figuratively speaking, according to the custom of our ancestors, "change into everything clean"
      2. Nycomed
        Nycomed 18 August 2019 10: 51
        -1
        Hint that the dollar and the euro will not last forever?
  10. Mouse
    Mouse 18 August 2019 09: 23
    -1
    While the country is led by President Vučić

    that’s the question ... and after Vučić ???? recourse
  11. BISMARCK94
    BISMARCK94 18 August 2019 09: 29
    -2
    Does Shoigu work as an external auditor?)
  12. Masha
    Masha 18 August 2019 09: 30
    -1
    Serbia is not going to join NATO and will remain a neutral country.

    anyway ... but Switzerland, oh not Switzerland ....
  13. yuri p
    yuri p 18 August 2019 09: 49
    -2
    What can a builder, a fake general, appreciate, perhaps he has cut it in the budget of the RF Ministry of Defense.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 August 2019 12: 16
      -2
      Bulganin and Ustinov, too, were false marshals?
  14. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 18 August 2019 10: 04
    -1
    Belgrade invited Sergei Shoigu to assess the combat readiness of the Serbian army

    Why not, you can go and assess the state of combat readiness of the army. Yes, and to both countries this will already be a more serious and streamlined attitude.
  15. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 18 August 2019 10: 11
    -6
    Quote: seti
    Quote: Thrall
    Ah, in the spring of 1999, the Minister of Defense had to go to Belgrade ... Not just one, but with a couple of divisions.

    And Belarusians to take with you. Your words are criminal. Once signed up for the Serbs 100 years ago we had enough. Are you not? They are like brothers to us, but they must fight for themselves, it’s enough to shed Russian blood for strangers around the world. And pay the millions of lives of our compatriots and millions of unborn, the collapse of the empire. An example of Bulgarians is an eyesore. The Serbs have not grown to this and are unlikely to grow, but I want my compatriots to be full of Russia and the living. Other wars we do not need.

    If you divide me into Belarusians and Russians ... you will say hello.
  16. Charik
    Charik 18 August 2019 12: 33
    0
    so they would give the Serbs the beehors of the torus of the shell in the credit Turks, do not mind 400 as a gift
  17. Nycomed
    Nycomed 18 August 2019 12: 40
    -1
    "The Serbian Army will be on Red Square on May 9 together with its Supreme Commander, with all the other victorious states, with all of us who fought against fascism."
    That is, if I understand something correctly, then will the Americans and the Britons and the French with the Poles also be on Red Square on May 9, 2020? belay
    1. Irokez
      Irokez 18 August 2019 16: 51
      +1
      Well, you distort a little. By the way, they also officially defeated Germany and, in principle, can pass along the Red Square. But this will not happen because at the moment we are potential opponents.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 18 August 2019 17: 53
        -1
        What do I have to do with it? I just quoted the Minister of Defense of Serbia, his words. Reread carefully. I just ask a question. request
  18. Doliva63
    Doliva63 18 August 2019 17: 43
    +1
    "Belgrade has invited Sergei Shoigu to assess the combat readiness of the Serbian army."
    A man who has not served in the army for a day will appreciate this! laughing
    In fact, a "free-spirited" with general's shoulder straps.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 18 August 2019 21: 07
    0
    It seems more like a courtesy visit than an assessment of combat readiness. Yes, and how Shoigu can do it in a couple of hours.
  20. Palagecha
    Palagecha 18 August 2019 21: 51
    -4
    Yeah, they found the inspector ...