MiG-37B fighter: a subtle fictional secret

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The secrecy regime characteristic of advanced military developments can lead to the most interesting consequences. Without access to secret data, experts and amateurs can turn on fantasy and even arrange real hoaxes. An example of this can be the famous Soviet stealth MiG-37B, allegedly created in the late eighties.


MiG-37Б airplanes as presented by the artist. Figure Cont.ws




Secret History


In the eighties, one of the main topics in the field of military aviation there was a reduction in visibility for enemy detection tools. The appearance of the first stealth aircraft, which, as expected, could radically change the face of the air forces of leading countries. Rumors circulated in the USA about their own projects in the field of stealth technologies, and the possibility of the appearance of such developments in third countries was also discussed.

The protagonist of rumors and discussions then was a hypothetical, inconspicuous F-19 aircraft of American design. Later it turned out that the real stealth tactical aircraft was called F-117. The technical details of the project were not disclosed, which became good ground for speculation.

In 1986, the American company Testors released a prefabricated scale model of the F-19 fighter. This product reflected solely the views of the designers of the company and had nothing to do with real developments. At the same time, the miniature plane looked unusual and was futuristic. The model appeared at the right time and gained well-deserved popularity. Soon, F-19 became perhaps the most commercially successful Testors product in its entirety. history.

MiG-37B fighter: a subtle fictional secret
Model box from Testors. Photo Cybermodeler.com


At the same time, the press and the public were discussing the possibility of stealth aircraft from a potential enemy. The lack of real information from the USSR did not interfere with such processes at all, and in some cases even contributed to their development.

In 1987, Testors designers set about developing a new stealth aircraft, this time “Soviet”. Having familiarized themselves with real samples, data leaks, ratings, and even feature films, they came up with a fighter called the MiG-37B and arbitrarily assigned it the NATO Ferret E code. The new product was accompanied by a story about the work of Soviet industry, intelligence data and the characteristics of a previously unknown machine.

According to that legend, the MiG-37B was a direct rival to the American F-19. It was alleged that the Soviet project took all measures to reduce radar and infrared visibility, and also used modern electronic warfare equipment, which makes it difficult to detect the aircraft. According to the tabular flight-technical characteristics, the MiG-37Б lost a little to the main rival, but was ahead of it in maneuverability.


Details of the model. Photo Cybermodeler.com


Initially, the MiG-37B prefabricated models were produced only at the American factory Testors. Soon their release was established by the Italian company Italeri. An unknown plane of the USSR interested buyers and provided manufacturers with a solid profit.

Later, “repackaging” appeared from some other companies, including Russian ones. Despite its considerable age, the model of the secret Soviet stealth fighter is still popular. In addition, Testors' hoaxes inspired other companies to "develop" their own top-secret and unknown aircraft technology.

It should be noted that the legend from Testors turned out to be extremely successful and tenacious. The real history of the MiG-37B has long been revealed and is well known, but there are still a lot of publications in which this aircraft is given out as a real Soviet development. Moreover, some even claim that the United States was able to get documentation on the Soviet aircraft and used it in its ATF program. However, the never-existing F-19 project also still creates unhealthy sensations.

Appearance of the future


Designers from Testors claimed that their MiG-37B was based on available data on promising Soviet developments and general considerations on the topic of stealth technologies. They were also inspired by the famous fictional MiG-31 aircraft from the movie “Fire Fox”. The result was an unusual fighter with a number of interesting features.


Packaging model from Italeri. Photo Scalemates.com


Modellers were offered an aircraft with an integrated layout with a pronounced flat bottom, developed influx of the bow and a trapezoidal wing. The tail unit was made in the form of collapsed arrow-shaped planes. “To reduce visibility”, the design mainly consisted of rectilinear panels assembled at different angles. Curved parts were present in a minimal amount.

In the bow of the fuselage placed a single cabin with a large lamp. It was alleged that the pilot was protected by booking.

A wing with a pronounced negative “V” had a standard set of mechanization in the form of a pair of deflectable elements on each plane. The inclined keels were equipped with rudders. On the continuation of the bottom under the plumage there was a plane-elevator. On top of the fuselage provided two air brakes.

The fictional plane received a power plant with two turbojet engines. To protect against radiation from below, air intakes were placed over the influx of the wing. Of particular interest is the nozzle apparatus, made in the form of a large gap located above the deflected plane. Apparently, the authors tried to imitate means of cooling a gas jet, and also to close the nozzle from irradiation with ground-based radars.


The original model from the "Testor" assembly. Photo Fantastic-plastic.com


The MiG-37B had a built-in 30-mm gun and eight suspension points. Four were located under the wing, the others - in two internal cargo bays located on the longitudinal axis of the fuselage. In front of the front compartment there was a niche of the nose landing gear, behind it there were niches of the main struts and a second compartment. It was argued that the fighter can carry all modern weapons to combat aircraft and ground targets.

"According to intelligence", the fighter had a length of about 13,5 m and a wing span of 10,2 m. Take-off mass exceeded 16 m. The aircraft could reach speeds of the order of M = 5 and was highly maneuverable.

Fudge potential


The model of the non-existent MiG-37Б aircraft is quite interesting, and in addition, it shows what views on stealth technologies existed in the mid-eighties. With modern knowledge, you can determine which features of a fictional fighter would be realistic and useful, and which designers would have to give up.


Rear view, characteristic nozzle unit is noticeable. Photo by Alternathistory.com


First of all, you need to consider the contours of the fighter. Indeed, the angular shape of stealth aircraft allowed to scatter radar radiation and reduce visibility. However, they spoiled flight performance, which is why they were subsequently abandoned. Modern subtle aircraft technology is characterized by smoother contours - and less noticeability.

The views of designers on the design of the power plant are interesting. The air intake above the wing, shielded from radiation, was indeed used in various Soviet and foreign projects. Studies have also been conducted to improve the nozzle apparatus. The flat nozzle of a special design made it possible to both reduce radiation and provide control of the thrust vector. However, real projects of this kind, brought to production and operation, do not look as bold as the MiG-37B.

The deployment of weapons in the internal cargo bay provides obvious advantages. As a result, such compartments have both the fictional MiG-37B and real stealth aircraft. The authors also guessed with a course on improving electronic equipment.


The bottom of the plane. The front cargo bay is open. Photo by Alternathistory.com


The authors of Ferret E clearly overestimated the ability of world industry, indicating the flight speed M = 5. Even 30 years after the appearance of their “development”, real combat aircraft do not even come close to M = 3. The advantages of such speeds simply do not justify the difficulty of achieving them.

In general, the proposed appearance of a promising Soviet aircraft is quite interesting and has realistic features. Its other features turned out to be unrealistic or morally obsolete shortly after its appearance. A particular piquancy to the fighter was given by the history of its appearance.

Model without prototype


The rapid development of aviation in the past led not only to the development of fundamentally new models of equipment, but also to the appearance of rumors and hoaxes. Public interest in this topic spurred the media, publishers, and model makers to take special steps. In the mid-eighties, this led to the appearance of the F-19 and MiG-37Б models that did not have a real prototype.

If the MiG-37B fighter really existed, it would be of great technical interest. In addition, he would certainly attract the attention of modellers and model makers. However, as it turned out, the lack of a real model does not interfere with the release of new models and does not reduce the interest of the public.
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  1. +6
    19 August 2019 18: 16
    Thanks, very interesting
    1. +10
      19 August 2019 18: 19
      what a pity that only the model ...
      1. +1
        19 August 2019 20: 33
        It is a pity that the author did not devote a single word to the inscriptions on the case, one can judge a lot from them. For example about fuel. MiG-37B - "flew" on hydrogen.
  2. AML
    +15
    19 August 2019 18: 17
    Yes, it's brilliant. Let’s hear that a new fighter is being developed and give a couple of introductory notes. We are waiting for the release of the model and on it a plane. Surely the model can not be blown, but immediately in a series
    1. +2
      20 August 2019 00: 14
      It was very similar with the Mig-41: it was a student-designer who drew it, and then this drawing appeared in the press as a concept of a new interceptor. And it seems even got into some official presentations.
      By the way, Microprose, who made the old F-19 toy, had problems with the American counterintelligence: the plane had not yet left, but it turned out very similar.
  3. gel
    +2
    19 August 2019 18: 38
    But I heard a different rumor a long time ago. Such a model was really purged at one time at TsAGI.
    Most of all there was R&D, but it didn’t go any further.
  4. 0
    19 August 2019 19: 00
    Even 30 years after the appearance of their “development”, real combat aircraft do not even come close to M = 3.
    The speed of sound in air is 1191.6 km / h. We multiply by three - we teach 3574.8 km / h.
    The MIG-25 fighter, which completed its first flight in 1964, had a speed of 2.83M.
    The American intelligence officer SR-71, also taking off for the first time in 1964, flew at a speed of 3,08M.
    1. +3
      19 August 2019 19: 27
      Piece copies. Narrow specialists. Basic, mass aircraft slower. And the maximum speed will develop only for special reasons. And the model is beautiful. Chasing this in the old days. Alas.
      1. +8
        19 August 2019 19: 37
        Okay, SR-71, of which 32 pieces were produced, but the MIG-25 with the release of 1190 pieces does not pull a piece copy in any way. Moreover, the author wrote about "real combat aircraft". And SR-71 and MIG-25 - there is nowhere more real.
        1. 0
          19 August 2019 19: 40
          Add another moment 31.
          1. 0
            19 August 2019 19: 42
            The minus is not mine, but the MIG-31 is still slower.
            1. +7
              19 August 2019 19: 49
              I don’t look at the cons. Here lately sport discipline has appeared. Zaminusit all. And the administration is indulging. And on airplanes. 31 average but slower. That is the whole point. In the 60s they played with speed. We understood that we can. But they didn’t take this path. The price is too high. Therefore, the majority of modern ones are Mach 2,2. There will be a breakthrough in engines and fuels; there will be a second round of the race for speed.
              1. +5
                19 August 2019 19: 59
                In reality, someone puts a minus clearly "on the basis of personal hostility." I've already written many times that the anonymous cons option shouldn't be present. If you want to put a minus - explain. And so there is room for inadequate hamsters, who are also aggressive flocks get lost.
                1. +1
                  19 August 2019 20: 08
                  This is not even from personal hostility. It's just that people are trying to express themselves.
                  1. The comment was deleted.
                2. AUL
                  +1
                  20 August 2019 10: 04
                  Quote: Undecim
                  In reality, someone puts a minus clearly "on the basis of personal hostility."

                  There are, there are! Here I, for example, have a personal devoted "fan" (I guess who). I catch a minus from him even for a harmless question. And if I don't get a minus for some of my posts, it starts to strain me - either he ignores me, or, God forbid, what happened to him? laughing I can’t say that minuses depress me, I’m just worried about a person.
                  Hello my friend! Calm me, throw a minus sign!
                  1. +1
                    20 August 2019 14: 56
                    My minus, I decided to give pleasure.
                    1. AUL
                      -3
                      20 August 2019 15: 00
                      Quote: Felix99
                      My minus, I decided to give pleasure.

                      No, my friend, there are no impostors here! I'm not worried about you ...
                      Although, you can join the ranks of my fan club - I do not mind!
                  2. -3
                    20 August 2019 15: 46
                    Holy, holy! God bless them! fellow
              2. 0
                21 August 2019 08: 36
                You still forget about the materials and the pilot. With a blink of 25 with its speeds, the designers faced a lot of problems with heating the machine at such speeds that they had successfully solved. With the engine, I think not the biggest problem, but the glider ... The plane will turn out to be truly golden
                1. +1
                  21 August 2019 11: 29
                  A byproduct of moment 25 was a huge leap in materials science. Developments in heat-resistant steels are still relevant. Yes, the plane was expensive. But the costs of this kind pay off.
    2. 0
      19 August 2019 20: 23
      both of the examples you cited no longer fly. In addition to the MiG-31B, most real combat aircraft most likely have M = 2 .... 2.5 as a limit than M = 3
      1. +1
        19 August 2019 20: 26
        The fact that they do not fly today, as it affects the fact of their existence?
        1. +1
          19 August 2019 20: 33
          MiG-25 has already been withdrawn from service and exists in museums. SR-71 is also removed. Their existence does not affect the average value of the maximum speeds of modern combat vehicles.
          1. +2
            20 August 2019 00: 55
            Quote: arseniy.v.naumov
            MiG-25 has already been withdrawn from service and exists in museums.

            And the Syrian MiG-25? Something else is left there! It is possible that Algeria still has the MiG-25 ... in any case, back in 2016 there was a certain number!
            1. Alf
              0
              21 August 2019 21: 02
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              there was a certain number!

              There was something, but how much was in flight condition?
    3. +4
      19 August 2019 20: 36
      The speed of sound in air depends on the density of the atmosphere, that is, roughly speaking, on altitude. Therefore, speaking about the speed of the aircraft, one must always specify what altitude the flight is in question, otherwise the conversation is meaningless.
      1. +3
        19 August 2019 21: 41
        Therefore, speaking about the speed of the aircraft, one must always specify what altitude the flight is in question, otherwise the conversation is meaningless.
        Well, if we are in science, then speaking about the speed of an aircraft, we must begin with specifying what speed we are talking about. Directly under the term "Aircraft speed" is meant the speed of movement of the aircraft (its center of mass) relative to the air environment, not disturbed by the aircraft itself. Earlier, in the old technical literature, this speed was called "air".
        It is calculated by the formula ϑ = √ (δg / Cγ), where δ is the wing load, g is the gravity acceleration, C is the lift coefficient, γ is the air density.
        The formula clearly shows what factors the "air" speed depends on.
        There is also ground speed — an indicator of the movement of an aircraft relative to the earth’s surface and an instrument speed — an indicator determined using instruments on board an aircraft.
        If we talk about the Mach number, then this is a dimensionless quantity equal to the ratio of the flow velocity at a given point of a moving gas medium to the speed of sound at this point. M = V / a, where V is the flow velocity in m / s, and is the speed of sound in m / s.
        Thus, Thus, the number M, as it were, takes into account the speed of movement, plus the change in the parameters of the air through the speed of sound, which depends on these parameters.
        Simplifications in relation to aviation consist in the fact that the flow rate is replaced by the speed of the physical body in the gaseous medium, that is, the true speed of the aircraft. The speed of sound is the speed of sound at altitude.

        The Machometer on the Concord dashboard (bottom right).
        To obtain information on the Mach number, almost all modern high-speed planes have an M number indicator in the cockpit. In common parlance, it is sometimes called a mahometer. In most cases, it is an arrow pointer like a speed indicator. Such devices can either give out only Mach number values, or they can be combined (combined) with a speed indicator, true or instrumental.
        So you just look at the device and see the number M. At some height this number will be maximum. It usually appears in popular literature.
        It is unlikely that the commentary will be interesting on the VO forum, where the calculation of the true speeds of the aircraft depending on altitude with a step of 100 m will be given.
        1. 0
          21 August 2019 13: 11
          Thank you for the closest answer in truth, BUT guys, after 450-480 (you no longer look at the mustache (speed indicator), but at M (there is a graph of focus changes at the speeds of the RUNNING edge (not an airplane, not an airship (hello, "alex- fighter "- ignorant village-dibiloid) - So there, when the speed of the flow around the leading edge of the wing is approaching (for this, the sweep is increased so that the speed of the flow decreases by the sine of the sweep angle, since if not, this is where the focus SHARPLY goes up (for the first time Bakhchivandzhi in 1942 and crashed (the phenomenon of pulling into a dive) on the I-180 (or I-200) I do not care .., and so the rake grows from there - "V" - elongation (cho to explain laziness, google) - all the same specialists "clap. .. "V. in general - aalaukh ... By the way, for" aviation botanists the question "- (what a hell of a Google just answer) - why one with the M-105 falls into a spin to the right, and the other (with the same engine, layout, speeds V sv, etc.) t- to the left - .. (by the way, alex.expensive, 300 km from Moscow time, come, I’ll take a ride, so that instead of cleaners will send a sprinkler, half-wit ..., Lord forgive me)
    4. +2
      19 August 2019 21: 45
      Quote: Undecim
      Even 30 years after the appearance of their “development”, real combat aircraft do not even come close to M = 3.
      The speed of sound in air is 1191.6 km / h. We multiply by three - we teach 3574.8 km / h.
      The MIG-25 fighter, which completed its first flight in 1964, had a speed of 2.83M.
      The American intelligence officer SR-71, also taking off for the first time in 1964, flew at a speed of 3,08M.

      The speed of sound you indicated is at low altitude, at altitudes of the order of 17 km. she is about 1060 km / h
      1. 0
        19 August 2019 21: 48
        I tried to pose the issue in the comments above, if interested - take a look.
    5. 0
      19 August 2019 23: 55
      The speed of sound in air is not constant and depends on factors such as altitude.
    6. +4
      20 August 2019 01: 50
      Quote: Undecim
      Even 30 years after the appearance of their “development”, real combat aircraft do not even come close to M = 3.
      The speed of sound in air is 1191.6 km / h. We multiply by three - we teach 3574.8 km / h.
      The MIG-25 fighter, which completed its first flight in 1964, had a speed of 2.83M.
      The American intelligence officer SR-71, also taking off for the first time in 1964, flew at a speed of 3,08M.

      And the density of the atmosphere has nothing to do with it? Do not be confused! The Mig-25 had a 2,8 M limitation for operational reasons when the CP-71 is the maximum! And so 25 and 3.1 M gave!
    7. 0
      20 August 2019 14: 14
      This is the speed of sound near the earth! At an altitude of 20 km it is 1162 km / h. And there these devices demonstrated their maximum speed.
  5. +10
    19 August 2019 19: 31
    I think it's time to make a section on topwar.ru with the alternative reality of the Russian Federation. Everything that belongs to the "priest", outstanding and brilliant projects that remained in the fantasies of the real RF - to describe and tell in a special section of the alternative reality of the Russian Federation! I explain right away that in an alternative reality, the USSR did not collapse, America lost the Cold War and now the ARF (Alternative Russian Federation) is at its technological and economic peak. All world centers of influence are concentrated in Moscow, the UN, the Galactic Economic Court and other world government institutions. How do you like this idea?
    1. -1
      20 August 2019 06: 08
      What a great idea! You just need to talk about the Negroes, otherwise it will not be tolerant: in the US, blacks are "flattened" (for rap), and in Africa they thrive without letting the books of L.I. Brezhnev. Yes
  6. +4
    19 August 2019 19: 43
    Beautifully earned real money on absolute fantasy !!! Malas!
    1. +2
      19 August 2019 20: 10
      Well, a helicopter model and a couple of tank models pop up as a keepsake. And something else on the little things. For toy and model makers, this is common practice.
  7. +7
    19 August 2019 20: 07
    Quote: gel
    But I heard a different rumor a long time ago. Such a model was really purged at one time at TsAGI.
    Most of all there was R&D, but it didn’t go any further.

    This is quite possible. In the 90s, I saw a rather weighty volume on MIG planes in a bookstore. Scrolling, standing by the shelf. And what struck me was the pieces of 6-8 models (for purging) of the MIG-29, and quite exotic external forms.
    Further, a good friend of my friend worked after graduating from the EMNIP Aviation Institute in the Sukhoi Design Bureau. On one of the vacations, sitting with my friend over a "glass of tea", we started talking about possible options. Drawing well, this friend sketched several types of machines. Not even experimental, but at the level of elaboration as part of research
    The same is in the Krylov Center. Models similar to the American "Zumvolt" were tested in the pool 10 years ago. So anything can be. Indeed, in a series sometimes one product out of 10, and how many intermediate options are scary to think. Although interesting

    Quote: rocket757
    Beautifully earned real money on absolute fantasy !!! Malas!

    This model was not the only one. He himself is not a modeler, but there are many friends-modelers. There was also a model of a Stealth-type helicopter, I don't remember exactly, but the model seems to be called KA-56
    1. Alf
      +3
      19 August 2019 20: 39
      Quote: Old26
      KA-56

      KA-58 black ghost.

      Soviet attack helicopter MIL-28.

      How much did we sell them at one time!
      1. Alf
        0
        21 August 2019 21: 00
        I wonder who minus? The one who did not see these models in the eye?
    2. +1
      19 August 2019 20: 52
      Quote: Old26
      This model was not the only one. He himself is not a modeler, but there are many friends-modelers. There was also a model of a Stealth-type helicopter, I don't remember exactly, but the model seems to be called KA-56

      The main thing is a good advertisement! Give your imagination for a super secret development of mysterious and scary tips !!! excellent advertising move !!!
    3. +3
      19 August 2019 21: 00
      Quote: Old26
      There was also a model of a Stealth helicopter,


      Ka-58
  8. +8
    19 August 2019 20: 40
    Quote: Rus_Balt
    I think it's time to make a section on topwar.ru with the alternative reality of the Russian Federation. Everything that belongs to the "priest", outstanding and brilliant projects that remained in the fantasies of the real RF - to describe and tell in a special section of the alternative reality of the Russian Federation! I explain right away that in an alternative reality, the USSR did not collapse, America lost the Cold War and now the ARF (Alternative Russian Federation) is at its technological and economic peak. All world centers of influence are concentrated in Moscow, the UN, the Galactic Economic Court and other world government institutions. How do you like this idea?

    What for? There is, after all, a resource called "AI" - Alternative History. There you can find anything you want. And alternative projects of ships, and tanks, and aircraft

    But the unrealized projects of the USSR are more interesting. I think there is a lot to tell. All the more so if it is "collective work". As it happens. One knows something, the second, the third - and like a chicken by the grain you can find a lot. And so even "no alternative". How many have heard of such MIT missiles as "Sych", "Grach", "Luch"? Or "Agat" and "Elbrus" ....?
    1. +5
      19 August 2019 21: 08
      And many have heard about the series of Soviet computers "MICRON D \ M \ T" ..... a forensic laboratory in a case-with-suitcase and other police "helpers"! He never got into the case, but he exhibited at VDNKh, even with the Minister of the Interior Balakal !!! About "AGAT", "ELBRUS", "Ts100" and other interesting things ...
  9. +1
    19 August 2019 20: 42
    Quote: Alf
    KA-58 black ghost.

    Thanks for the correction. I remember that something like KA-56, but it turns out KA-58
    1. Alf
      +1
      19 August 2019 21: 52
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: Alf
      KA-58 black ghost.

      Thanks for the correction. I remember that something like KA-56, but it turns out KA-58

      You're welcome !
  10. 0
    19 August 2019 22: 26
    Yes, I remember, in my opinion in "Wings of the Motherland" for 86 or 87 years there was some kind of image of the F-19, of course, having nothing in common with the F-117. And then no one knew that he, Stealth, would be called F-117, not F-19. But the rumors were over the top. And this was in the days of the USSR, when there was nowhere to draw information from. True, I subscribed to "Foreign Military Review", there was at least something and also "Interavia", a b / w photocopy in English. It was there that I saw for the first time a blurry and barely distinguishable photograph of the Su-27 in 1986.
  11. 0
    19 August 2019 23: 28
    Quote: Old26
    Quote: Alf
    KA-58 black ghost.

    Thanks for the correction. I remember that something like KA-56, but it turns out KA-58

    At one time the game was a computer game, "Striking Force" was called a helicopter shooting-shooting game. So in it, one of the missions was carried out just on the "Black Ghost". It seems that the box with it is still lying around somewhere.
  12. 0
    19 August 2019 23: 29
    And in my opinion, the Yankees simply invented this object to sell their F-117.
    1. -1
      19 August 2019 23: 44
      Whom to push through? Your military-industrial complex? Who was Lockheed's competitor there?
      1. 0
        20 August 2019 13: 42
        Quote: Nycomed
        Who to sell?

        Who? Congressmen who vote on the military budget and its distribution by type of armed forces. And they strongly ask for the materiel. Moreover, the arms race in the United States is unstoppable for fundamental reasons, and any round of the arms race is always accompanied by a propaganda campaign about the "technological lag of the United States." It has always been and will be so. The US administration is, in addition to everything else, an ideological body that throws into the mass consciousness various (mostly imaginary) ideas about the existence of a threat to national security.
      2. Alf
        0
        21 August 2019 21: 04
        Quote: Nycomed
        Who was Lockheed's competitor there?

        Senate Appropriations Commission.
        Remember how excited in the states, when we got into service with the MIG-25, never a strike aircraft.
  13. KCA
    +4
    20 August 2019 01: 39
    What fiction, I flew on the F-19, Microprose F-19 Stealth Fighter I guess on every IBM AT-compatible computer in 89-91
  14. +1
    20 August 2019 07: 34
    And where are the flying saucers made in USSR whose technology we stole in the states?
    1. 0
      20 August 2019 08: 49
      Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ...
  15. 0
    20 August 2019 15: 12
    Quote: Undecim
    The minus is not mine, but the MIG-31 is still slower.

    maybe it’s slower, but it’s certainly longer than the mig-25 can maintain high speeds.
    so another question is who in the end is slower
  16. 0
    20 August 2019 21: 21
    Che procrastinate. Power plants with petrels will be the same. And so in the long run a gravitational engine. Just what does he look like?
  17. 0
    21 August 2019 18: 02
    Such a project was. But they didn’t do it, for they stole 1985 tons on Lockheed in 1,5. The documentation for the F-117!
    MIG-37 is a product, mmm, of DARPA. Or what could be a Soviet F-117!
  18. 0
    23 August 2019 17: 52
    There was such a model. For a long time with friends they were looking for a miracle, but they never found ...
  19. 0
    6 October 2019 09: 51
    For amateurs, futuristic shapes, colors and other husks matter. At the same time, experts consider the key principles of novelty in the operation of engines, flight control and maneuvering mechanisms, and TTX in general. So it turns out that there is none of this.

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