Russia and Venezuela signed an agreement on visits of warships

Russia and Venezuela have concluded an agreement on mutual visits of warships to the ports of both countries. The document was signed by Russian and Venezuelan defense ministers Sergei Shoigu and Vladimir Padrino Lopez during a meeting in Moscow.

Russian and Venezuelan warships will be able to visit the ports of both countries. The corresponding agreement was signed during an official visit to Moscow by a delegation of the Venezuelan Ministry of Defense led by the Minister of Defense of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela, General-General Chef Vladimir Padrino Lopez. The parties also discussed other issues of bilateral military and military-technical cooperation, the details of which are not given.

As Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated at the meeting, Russia supports the independent foreign policy of Venezuela and its opposition to US attempts to change the legally elected government.

In addition, the parties discussed the participation of the Venezuelan military in the international army games "Army", to which they are coming for the fifth time. According to the head of the Russian military, this year Venezuela brought the largest team for all time participating in the games - 221 people. who participated in 9 game contests.

In turn, the Venezuelan Minister of Defense thanked Russia for organizing such games and stated that the Venezuelan army personnel are gaining enormous experience by participating in these competitions.

Russian weapons show themselves excellently during the competition. Army international games position Russia as a leading developer and leader in the production of the latest modern weapon systems

- emphasized Vladimir Padrino Lopez.

Comments

[dvina71]

Uhhh .. is this a subtle hint of supplying a pair of frigates to Venezuela?

[Egorovich]

A good blow to the Americans just below the waist, not just in the ass, but in a very painful place.

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Quote: dvina71

hint to supply a pair of frigates to Venezuela?

Bananas and oil in exchange for missile cruisers with delivery vehicles of various interesting warheads to the United States for a flight time of 8 minutes. As from the base Deveselu in Romania to the Russian Federation.

[Catfish]

Do we have so many that there are extra ones?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

This is a hint of the United States that in order to deploy missiles in Cuba and Venezuela, Russia no longer needs to build bases there, but rather the same frigate, etc. 22350 and 16 with gauges on board, to visit us in friendly countries.

[georggy]

[quoteThis is a hint of the USA that to place missiles in Cuba] [/ quote]
Question: who removed the missiles and closed the base in Cuba?
Think what you write

[bayard]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

This is a hint of the United States that in order to deploy missiles in Cuba and Venezuela, Russia no longer needs to build bases there, but rather the same frigate, etc. 22350 and 16 with gauges on board, to visit us in friendly countries.

It's still better to have bases - it's more reliable. But before dealing with the bases "on the distant shores," it would be good to agree on the possibility of ships calling and the creation of a logistics support point. On which there may be a container station or just a platform for containers. With a secret. This is cheaper, more reliable and always in place - no need to keep ships.
Soon the "Admiral Lazarev" will come out of modernization - his visits of friendship will be more convincing. Upgraded submarine cruisers 949A with Zircon and Caliber-M cruise missiles (range up to 4500 km) in a quantity of at least 72 units will be able to cruise along the American coast. on board. The MTO point will also be very useful for them to replenish stocks.
Venezuela will feel more confident, and Russia will be able to create an alternative threat to the United States in the region - in response to a threat from the United States and NATO in Europe.
The world will become much more stable.
And be kind.

[APASUS]

Maybe ours is also renting a piece of land from Venezuela, well, just in case? To fight world terrorism for example

[Starchugan]

Quote: APASUS

Maybe ours is also renting a piece of land from Venezuela, well, just in case? To fight world terrorism for example

Everything can be in this world "hacked" by Russia ..)))

We are not to blame, but they are forcing us to do it .. But I like it, isn’t it still necessary to carry out bloody showdowns in Eurasia?

[Mavrikiy]

Now I praise you, I. Test photo and koment. I propose to establish tourism, on a reciprocal basis, to press the tail of Turkey, on occasion

[bayard]

Why should Turkey reap a tail? Everything is normal there - with the straits, order, buy weapons and want more, waved to bring mutual trade to 100 billion dollars. ... The USA and Israel are nervous about this - that means we are on the right track.
Shag must be an American grandmother.
And from Venezuela it’s convenient to do it.
And we have considerable economic interests there - oil, gold, etc.
So - more containers - large, sea and interesting.

[Nycomed]

Coxotourism? But what a good idea, and a ride. Even advertising is not particularly required. Magpie on the tail will bring the necessary info.

[Sauron80]

It would be better for us to look after our pieces of land. Lavrov won plainly said the transfer of the two islands to the Japanese after the signing of a peace treaty

[APASUS]

Quote: Sauron80

Lavrov won plainly said the transfer of the two islands to the Japanese after the signing of a peace treaty

There is a certain casuistry in this statement of Lavrov. (in no case do not justify anyone) If Japan fully recognizes the results of WWII, then the issue of transferring the islands should disappear by itself.

[dvina71]

Quote: Sauron80

Lavrov won plainly said the transfer of the two islands to the Japanese after the signing of a peace treaty

I would like to see this direct text ..?

[Andrey Chistyakov]

As if the "partners" are not offended ...

[Ros 56]

And to us that, let them fly. Our task is to get the missile defense base there, as the stripes in Poland and Romania set. Parity should be.

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

In the USSR, such an experience was in Syria, then the invasion of the ATS was prevented.

[Kenxnumx]

Do we have aegis and missile defense? All we need to get something for fun. No, to start working already on oneself.

[Ros 56]

Fine swim dear.

[Kenxnumx]

I didn’t drink at the Brudershaft. But you can try to name our systems that pull on pro and which can be installed in Venezuela

[bayard]

Quote: Ros 56

Our task is to get the missile defense base there, as the stripes in Poland and Romania set.

A missile defense base in Cuba is necessary - from there it is more convenient. A couple of Voronezh and S-500 canvases ... and a couple of container stations.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

As if the "partners" are not offended ...

They will take offense in Argentina right now. There "effective managers" have built such a just society that the victory of the socialists is inevitable.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

As if the "partners" are not offended ...

They will take offense in Argentina right now. There "effective managers" have built such a just society that the victory of the socialists is inevitable.

Argentina has long been "happy" with the IMF ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Argentina has long been "happy" with the IMF ...

Not very happy anymore. The current prezik cut all social programs to get a loan from them, and there the population shrieked strongly, and these insolent "Pedro" now somehow coldly treat such calls.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Argentina has long been "happy" with the IMF ...

Not very happy anymore. The current prezik cut all social programs to get a loan from them, and there the population shrieked strongly, and these insolent "Pedro" now somehow coldly treat such calls.

Pay attention to quotes sometimes.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Pay attention to quotes sometimes.

I read in passing obliquely - I did not want to offend the costs of the process.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Pay attention to quotes sometimes.

I read in passing obliquely - I did not want to offend the costs of the process.

No offense.

[Starchugan]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Argentina has long been "happy" with the IMF ...

This was a bitter experience for Russia ... Putin, by the way, paid them first and foremost, and then he began to build a power vertical ..
IMF, those hyenas are financial world!

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Starchugan

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

Argentina has long been "happy" with the IMF ...

This was a bitter experience for Russia ... Putin, by the way, paid them first and foremost, and then he began to build a power vertical ..
IMF, those hyenas are financial world!

I know. I have been living for a long time. By the way, and at the end of the word. No offense.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Starchugan

This was a bitter experience for Russia ...

Now many "have fun" - the rake is not signed)))

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Quote: Gray Brother

the rake is not signed)))

You are mistaken - we still stand on them.
IMF Report on the Russian Federation of 2017 of the year No. 17 / 197 (https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/ResRep/RUS):
- it was recommended to increase the "retirement" age (item 16);
- It is recommended to increase VAT (paragraph 31 of the report).
From the latest recommendations (May 2019) - continue to invest in the National Wealth Fund in high-quality foreign assets.

[Gray brother]

Quote: DigitalError

You are mistaken - we still stand on them.

Well, if you take this into account and take into account the experience of foreign partners, then we will soon have socialism.

[Alexzn]

And what is contrary to common sense in these recommendations? Even simpler - the basic logic of management?

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Quote: AlexZN

And what is contrary to common sense in these recommendations? Even simpler - the basic logic of management?

The answer depends on who is meant by "business executive".
It's funny. Here on the site someone irion "activated" on August 13 (like you), who had 4 comments in 66 years, of which 60 were on August 13 and later. Probably "single voting day" is approaching

[Gray brother]

Quote: Starchugan

... Putin, by the way, paid them first, and then he began to build a power vertical ..

Well, when you do not owe anyone, then no one can oblige you to anything. Classic.

[Starchugan]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: Starchugan

... Putin, by the way, paid them first, and then he began to build a power vertical ..

Well, when you do not owe anyone, then no one can oblige you to anything. Classic.

But no one wonders where he found the money to pay, and not only with the IMF .. (but the second Chechnya was coming)
That's why his pseudo-liberals-talkers hate ..! That's where the classic !!!!!

[Gray brother]

Quote: Starchugan

where did you find the money

Amnesty of capital was not just, I think. The bandits had a lot of money - they collected taxes instead of the state, there are normal lava and I don’t understand why not legalize them and become honest businessmen.

[Nycomed]

In South America in such situations, as a rule, it is not the socialists and communists who come to power, but the fascists. Examples are mass. Such a continent is peculiar.

[Kenxnumx]

After the leftists in power ruin everything. By the way, why the Nazis-because the Soviet Union so prescribed the propaganda? Why, for example, Pinochet is a fascist. The fascists are just the left - the example of Mussolini or the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany

[Nycomed]

That is, the "left" Pinochet dispersed the gang of the "left" Allende?

[Kenxnumx]

Right Pinochet is a patriot of his country, and then according to your test.

[Digital error]

Quote: Gray Brother

There are "effective managers"

rather spectacular

[Hto tama]

Tomorrow we are waiting for angry speeches and threats of the next events, this mustachioed cockroach will intimidate us. By the way, what hasn't been heard in Pompeo for a long time?

[Sergei 23]

The situation in the country is not intended. But this party needs to continue to play.

[Nycomed]

Well, we can send something there. What will they sail on? I have one hunch, but I won’t voice it, they will zamusnutut in the end.

[Kenxnumx]

And what will we send there? A tanker and three tugboats?

[Nycomed]

What matters is what they come back with.

[Kenxnumx]

They will not come. They won’t pour bulgin there. Only if they come with theirs and guard, so as not to stole.

[Nycomed]

They have more abrupt goods, on the exchanges they really are not traded, but the price and liquidity are just crazy.

[Kenxnumx]

Are these the ideas of the Bolivarian revolution? So this is three pennies per bunch.

[AVA77]

On a rotational basis, keep a boat with iskanders there, just in case.

[nPuBaTuP]

This is what kind of ship do our Iskarers have on?

[AVA77]

Not on what, I got it wrong meant caliber.

[petrol cutter]

This is rather good than bad.

[Starchugan]

And I was wondering why suddenly the "protests" intensified both in Russia and in China ..
Venezuela survived it and it's good to see! So "gentlemen" get ready
We are coming to you to defend "democracy" on the American continent ...
And then you are always quiet always and everyone is happy ..

[Kenxnumx]

God forbid to survive such as in Venezuela. Yes, and they did not survive. The economic situation continues to deteriorate.

[Gardamir]

These are just games. But seriously. Another gift. See from 34.10

[Karabin]

Quote: Gardamir

Another gift.

Nah. Goodwill gesture. Considering the interests of the Japanese people And why do yapes wander? The island and the ridge are still better than nothing. From Lavrov’s speech it’s clear that bidding for a piece of the Motherland is ongoing, but has not yet agreed.

[Nikolay87]

The Yapis understand that after the signing of the agreement, we, before the actual transfer of the 2 islands (as it turned out to my surprise) will ask for guarantees that US bases or weapons will not be deployed on these islands. And since yapis are very much on the needle of approval of the United States, which this does not suit at all, they only have to add on the island’s maps .... and things are still there.

[Karabin]

Nikolay shouldn't deceive yourself. The cart at the fair. There is a bargaining and just did not agree on the price of the issue. And talk about a peace treaty, "international law", guarantees and other diplomatic crap for people. All guarantees and contracts are ephemeral. Only the islands are real. And how they will go to the Yapam, by agreement or by a broad "gesture of goodwill" is not important. It is about the control of the islands in question. And Lavrov made this clear unequivocally. But about "we won't give up an inch of land" I have never heard from him.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Gardamir

Gardamir

Not later than a month ago, the question was why the wording "first a peace treaty, then the islands" for the Japanese categorically unacceptable, understood in detail, thoughtfully and repeatedly.

In this regard, the question is already for you: is your memory so short, or are there just no other reasons left to troll?

[Gardamir]

your memory is so short

Lavrov himself said this today. Just don’t have to invent anything, scammers.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Gardamir

Lavrov himself said this today

Once again: this statement is not the first time it sounds. And already several times here, in VO, smart people explained why the Japanese do not like this option.

Accordingly, there will be no peace treaty. Then think for yourself, I hope.

(aside): campaign, still problems with understanding

[Old26]

Quote: dvina71

Uhhh .. is this a subtle hint of supplying a pair of frigates to Venezuela?

Which you can count on your fingers?

Quote: Egorovich

A good blow to the Americans just below the waist, not just in the ass, but in a very painful place.

Good punch? Yes, they do not care about Venezuela and these visits of our ships

Quote: DigitalError

Quote: dvina71

hint to supply a pair of frigates to Venezuela?

Bananas and oil in exchange for missile cruisers with delivery vehicles of various interesting warheads to the United States for a flight time of 8 minutes. As from the base Deveselu in Romania to the Russian Federation.

Do we have such missile cruisers that fire missiles at 2000 km? Yes, in 8 minutes? Maybe some galactic cruisers, but I didn’t hear that they were in service with us

Quote: APASUS

Maybe ours is also renting a piece of land from Venezuela, well, just in case? To fight world terrorism for example

Is there money for this? Although you think a few hundred billion dollars is such a trifle ... Raise the payroll to 75-80 years, cut the salary by half - we will find the money for the base, which is not needed there

Quote: Ros 56

Our task is to get the missile defense base there, as the stripes in Poland and Romania set. Parity should be.

What are you going to shoot? From a slingshot? We do not have such medium-range missile defense missiles as the Americans. The base can be clogged up - several hundred billion dollars and the base will be. Is there money at the base ??? Moreover, such a base is needed in Venezuela as a fifth wheel cart or a fifth leg for a dog. Think about where the trajectory of American missiles will be, and where our missiles will be and how to get to American missiles, when our missiles will have a speed of 4 km / s and their ICBMs will reach 7,8 km / s, and you will have to shoot after them. ..

Quote: AVA77

On a rotational basis, keep a boat with iskanders there, just in case.

It is even possible on an ongoing basis. Put it on a pedestal, as a monument, or put it at the pier and take money for viewing these "terrible" Calibers (there are no Iskander on the ships).

[Div Divich]

Strategically, that is, for many years to come, it is more profitable to gain a foothold economically, that is, to sell non-military equipment, to create local production with components from Russia. Well, the most painful thing for the USA is if Russian and Chinese signalmen (mobile operators and equipment) gain a foothold in Venezuela. At the expense of ships, in Russia they produce few sea vessels, they themselves are not enough, so it is best for Venezuela to buy modern ships from different countries, there is a lot of choice.

[Kenxnumx]

Will Venezuelans come on oars? Like Fedor Konyukhov. The economic situation is getting worse, although it would seem much narrower. More than 10% were dumped abroad.

[Alexzn]

There is one vile question - why? What does Russia get from military-political cooperation with Venezuela? Well, the states will come to the tail, is it worth it? More precisely, is the cost of pleasure comparable with the cost of investing in a dubious state?

[Div Divich]

The United States went to attack oil-producing countries, which means they want to control the oil market and have a percentage of sales. It is not beneficial for Russia if the Americans manage the oil market and create various problems, from restricting sales of Russian oil to limiting the price of Russian oil. But supplying weapons is also not profitable, the Americans will quickly learn the technology, but the supply of civilian products will not harm Russia, only benefits.

[Nycomed]

The matter is small, it remains only to understand: what kind of "civilian" products are produced in Russia, comparable in price and quality with the products of other countries?

[Cat man null]

Quote: Nycomed

Case for small ...

... find who said stupidity, and stick an agitation to her ... yes, no?

[nobody111body]

however evil takes the Jews that Nicholas is solvent; oil is oil; so that we can sell any ship or submarine on credit for the development of new deposits; well, bananas also come in handy if not too expensive, and what a little resort for children and preferably free on the coast doesn’t hurt - Angel Falls well or a beautiful angel

[Nycomed]

Of course he is solvent! Do you know how much money they have? I recently saw on TV how one Bolivarian went to the bakery, he had a full bag of money to buy one loaf. So, there is a LOT of money there!

[Nycomed]

And besides, how can Jews be angry with a Jew? Maduro, after all, Jew, you do not know?