Ukrainian Motor Sich announced a reduction in the working week

Following the Kharkov engineering design bureau of mechanical engineering, problems were announced at one of the leading enterprises in the Ukrainian economy - Motor Sich. The company's management announced the transition to a four-day work week. This was reported by Ukrainian media with reference to the order of the leadership.

Motor-Sich Company is switching from 1 September to 4-day working week. The reason for this decision was the lack of contracts for the products of the enterprise and the cessation of production of certain types of products, which are not reported. The order to switch to a new work schedule was issued on August 13.

Due to the cessation of work on certain types of products, the difficulty in concluding new contracts, the impossibility of the normal functioning of production due to the lack of components and assemblies, as well as to tighten control over the expenditure of funds and energy resources, the company switches to 4-day working a week

- - says in a published order.

Note that the Motor-Sich company, located in Zaporozhye, is engaged in the development and production of aviation gas turbine aircraft and helicopter engines, as well as industrial gas turbine installations for civil purposes.

This news caused a mixed reaction from users of Ukrainian social networks and readers of UkroSMI. Some of the commentators say that a possible shutdown of such an enterprise indicates a complete decline in the Ukrainian economy and suggest resuming the supply of products to Russia so as not to lose unique technologies. Others argue that nothing bad happened, and that it’s better to have the products in stocks than to deliver them to “Russian aggressors who will fly to bomb Kiev on the same engines.”

Comments

[himRa]

Following the Kharkov engineering design bureau of mechanical engineering, problems were announced at one of the leading enterprises in the Ukrainian economy - Motor Sich. The company management announced the transition to a four-day work week

This is to be expected!
they were told that, in Europe and the USA, they don’t like competitors and will not allow them to have high-tech production ...
rapeseed and your sunflowers are all ... pans ... horses!

[Svarog]

Quote: himRa

This is to be expected!

At our place, Medvedev also suggested making a 4-day ... trend, however ..

Quote: himRa

in Europe and the Sha they do not like and will not allow to have high-tech production ...

Everything is like ours ..

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: himRa

This is to be expected!

At our place, Medvedev also suggested making a 4-day ... trend, however ..

Quote: himRa

in Europe and the Sha they do not like and will not allow to have high-tech production ...

Everything is like ours ..

We do not have Motor Sich.

[Svarog]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

We do not have Motor Sich.

We have Kamaz, for example, which is regularly transferred to a three-day or four

[lis-ik]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

We do not have Motor Sich.

And that's bad. And yes, we’ll soon catch up and overtake.

[bar]

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

We do not have Motor Sich.

They also have almost none.

[himRa]

The Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Labor, Social Policy and Veterans' Affairs, Yaroslav Nilov, commented on the idea of ​​a four-day work week proposed by the Federation of Independent Trade Unions of Russia (FNPR) and urged to study all the pros and cons of this innovation.

unions want to remind about themselves and not Medvedev ... why are all the dogs hanging on him !?
the trade union movement ,, died ,, not only in Russia but also around the world ... for a long time the trade unions have not been defenders of working people, but a “black box office”

[maxim947]

It is not entirely appropriate to gloat here, firstly, it was to be expected and it was surprising that only now it happened (it will be even worse later) and not 2-3 years ago, and secondly, in our country the mass of production periodically switches over to four

[SSR]

Quote: maxim947

It is not entirely appropriate to gloat here, firstly, it was to be expected and it was surprising that only now it happened (it will be even worse later) and not 2-3 years ago, and secondly, in our country the mass of production periodically switches over to four

It will be worse.
Working conditions are changing, the same CNC machine will be replaced by a dozen people and this trend will grow.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: SSR

Working conditions are changing, the same CNC machine will be replaced by a dozen people and this trend will grow.

This is clear. It is not clear why the retirement age was raised then, motivating it by the fact that we have a demographic pit and there is no one to work. Like, one Chukchi blacksmith Vasya is forced to maintain a herd of deer and two and a half well-fed Moscow pensioners? If there is a trend towards automation, chipization and mechanization of manual labor, which in the future will free up a lot of extra hands that will not find use in view of the fact that the places are packed with potential retirees, why was it necessary to break the well-functioning pension system? So the "trade unions", crushing the gates to the government chambers with their brows, suddenly blew into the Prime Minister's ears that the brutalized pensioners who recently "begged" a delay in retirement for all generations can cope with the available production volumes not in 5, but in 4 days. Moreover, this disgrace is happening not at a single plant, but they say, everywhere, throughout Russia. Against this background, the statements of the same government that Russia has low labor productivity, but unprecedented wage increases look strange. We would have to deal with these strange "formulas" and "motions" of our home-grown economic geniuses. What is this Motor Sich to us? Let everything stand there.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Nyrobsky

If there is a tendency towards automation, chipization and mechanization of manual labor, which in the future will release a lot of extra hands that cannot be used because the seats are packed by potential pensioners, why break the well-functioning pension system?

Because it will not be tomorrow, such changes will take far more than one year.

[freddyk]

Quote: himRa

the trade union movement ,, died ,, not only in Russia but also around the world ... for a long time the trade unions have not been defenders of working people, but a “black box office”

As soon as the counterbalance to capitalism in the person of the USSR disappeared, there was no sense in protecting working people.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

And what are we rushing to Europe and the USA?

[Errr]

Quote: Uncle Vanya Susanin

And what are we rushing to Europe and the USA?

Yes, it seems like the USA with the help of Europe is still trying to break into the vastness of Russia, and not vice versa.)))

[Bshkaus]

Everything is like ours ..

I wanted to write the same thing.
It’s just funny to even watch the audience.
As we have Medvedev and the State Duma start talking about a four-day - it’s good, and throw caps in the air.
As in Ukraine, it’s bad by definition - this is Ukraine: /

[Eugene Besfamilny]

It seems like you live in some kind of virtual country. Not in Russia at all. I suspect that in Navalonia.

[neri73-r]

Quote: himRa

rapeseed and your sunflowers are all ... pans ... horses!

And the corn ???????

[Nycomed]

Now I will express an idiotic thought: what if Russia buys out Motor Sich from Ukraine?

[V1er]

Specialists and documentation would be desirable to take out.

[Nestorych]

It is advisable to have a single state where the whole Russian people will be, both Great Russians and Belarusians and Little Russians!

[V1er]

It's hard not to agree.

[Shuttle]

Quote: Nycomed

Now I will express an idiotic thought: what if Russia buys out Motor Sich from Ukraine?

It’s a good idea. They are unlikely to sell equipment to us. Yes and whether it is necessary? But people are another question. I hope that the headhunters did not do this today.

[Non liberoid Russian]

in Rybinsk, at one time, Ukrainian cars of the 08th region drove in herds, they tried to poke on Saturn

[Artemiy_2]

in Rybinsk, at one time, Ukrainian cars of the 08th region drove in herds, they tried to poke on Saturn

Saturn has a lot of employees with dawns who now make gas turbine engines for frigates and corvettes

[Alex_Bora]

In Ukraine there are no car numbers with the region number ... Do not whistle ... There are letters

[Non liberoid Russian]

start to whistle)))

[Nycomed]

Buy out everything: equipment, patents, all technical and technological documentation. Well, also take specialists and engineers and high-class workers. It will just be a shame: the brainchild of the Union, and I already see how the yellow little hands of Chinese "friends" are drawn there. In addition, the situation with the engines ourselves cannot be called "rainbow".

[freddyk]

Quote: Nycomed

It will just be a shame: the brainchild of the Union, and I already see how the yellow little hands of Chinese "friends" are drawn there.

It's a shame, of course. But China will at least sell us engines, and so Russia will have no engines at all. You can only steal technology from Ukraine, they won’t give it to us. At least the hell is bald, but not for us.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: freddyk

You can only steal technology from Ukraine, they won’t give it to us. At least the hell is bald, but not for us.

Let the Old Man of Belarus Lukashenko redeem, the union state of Belarus, or not!

[mvg]

But people are another question.

Already in China, all normal specialists. Special town banged under them for 100 thousand places

[igorbrsv]

Quote: Nycomed

Now I will express an idiotic thought: what if Russia buys out Motor Sich from Ukraine?

The next day they nationalize.

[ccsr]

Quote: Nycomed

Now I will express an idiotic thought: what if Russia buys out Motor Sich from Ukraine?

You poorly know the Ukrainians - they will sell it to you, and then they will take it back because they believe that those who sold it were bribed by Russia. They fooled the banker Lebedev, and he comes from the special services, and swallowed everything silently, not to mention the loss of our Sberbank in Ukraine.
Do you even imagine the Ukrainian mentality to offer such nonsense?

[Konstantm]

Quote: ccsr

Do you even imagine the Ukrainian mentality to offer such nonsense?

Ukrainian born, a Jew cried?

[Konstantm]

Quote: KonstantM

Ukrainian born, a Jew cried?

The word h..hol became forbidden?

[Eugene Besfamilny]

What for? Klimov is completing a second plant. Turbines for ships are also on their way. Why buy stale goods from swindlers?

[Samaritan]

offer to resume deliveries of products to Russia

No, thanks! Go to ... Europe!

[newcomer]

I wonder if they really hoped for the best? oh yes, they were hoping to throw geyropu with fat, deliver units (from Motor Sich) to the entire civilization world, but it turned out how smart people shouted to them: nobody needs yours like you do. they need ukrlenla territory.

[Vladimir Teplov]

Everything is just like in the bible. Unaware of what they are doing. They don’t appreciate what they have but lose, they will cry

[rotmistr60]

let it be better to have the products in warehouses than to supply them to "the Russian aggressors who will fly to bomb Kiev on the same engines"

The iron logic of an autonomous nationalist. To spite grandmother's ears frostbite. Something the decline of the Ukrainian economy is dragging on in time, it would be sooner to dot all!

[Eugene Besfamilny]

It's cool that there is nothing in the warehouses.

[Mavrikiy]

Ukrainian Motor Sich announced a reduction in the working week

Long arm of china

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Long arm of china

And a short mind ukrovlasti. As a result, there are great opportunities for the aviation industry of China.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Paranoid50

Quote: Mavrikiy

Long arm of china

And a short mind ukrovlasti. As a result, there are great opportunities for the aviation industry of China.

It's not in the mind, but in power. Temporary workers. They do not live there in the long run, so why development?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Mavrikiy

It's not in the mind, but in power. Temporary workers.

In the mind of power. Yes, temporary workers. Greedy, but narrow-minded.

[Elysium]

Their next venture with this outcome. And obviously not the last.

[Nestorych]

It was immediately clear that all mechanical engineering would die.

[Elysium]

Someone who passed here with minuses does not think so. The pan on the head, apparently, prevents this from being noticed.

[vlad106]

Quote: Nestorych

It was immediately clear that all mechanical engineering would die.

as well as ours ...

[Mavrikiy]

The reason for this decision was the lack of contracts for the products of the enterprise and the cessation of the release of certain types of products,

No need to lie, there were orders and the enterprise had a future. But the choice has been made in favor of jumping. Technology - to China, workers ruins.

[TokarevT]

Bear offers to transfer all of Russia to the 4-day working week. And it’s getting better! And so sweetly it is said that this is because in Russia there are already milk rivers with jelly banks all around, so where else they say? But, apparently, the situation is similar to that in Motor Sich + some Russian specifics. So it seems too early for us to poke a finger at Motor Sich.

[Artemiy_2]

This is not Medvedev proposed

[TokarevT]

Initially, he voiced this idea, then the FNPR picked up when the first reaction subsided.

[igorbrsv]

Already a bunch of comments about Medvedev. Boring

[Eugene Besfamilny]

Are you all raving, silly? At least I read for a start that this was a proposal from the trade unions. Although, at your level of intelligence is much lower than a stool, it is beyond the power.

[TokarevT]

Take care of your mom.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Andrey Chistyakov

We do not have Motor Sich.

We have Kamaz, for example, which is regularly transferred to a three-day or four

There is nothing in the note about Kamaz. Take a closer look !!!!

[igorbrsv]

When did it bother anyone
The note about Medvedev is nothing. However, there ...

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: igorbrsv

When did it bother anyone
The note about Medvedev is nothing. However, there ...

I did not write about Medvedev. More attentively !!!!

[igorbrsv]

And I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the fact that many people don’t care about the topic, they don’t think and sculpt: Kamaz, Medvedev ... I’m sure now about our political system they will foam.

[Andrey Chistyakov]

Quote: igorbrsv

And I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about the fact that many people don’t care about the topic, they don’t think and sculpt: Kamaz, Medvedev ... I’m sure now about our political system they will foam.

Then I apologize.

[prior]

The issue with Motor Sich and other problem enterprises is solved simply, you need to connect the entire left-bank part of Ukraine to LDNR. Stubborn, Svidomo and non-Russian speakers on the right bank of the Dnieper.
Stop shy of their complexes.

[vlad106]

Quote: prior

The issue with Motor Sich and other problem enterprises is solved simply, you need to connect the entire left-bank part of Ukraine to LDNR. Stubborn, Svidomo and non-Russian speakers on the right bank of the Dnieper.
Stop shy of their complexes.

It is high time

[Non liberoid Russian]

Others argue that nothing terrible happened, and let the products be stored in warehouses rather than supplying them to "Russian aggressors who will fly to bomb Kiev on these engines."

it’s rather those who just straightened up on a field with strawberries in Poland for a smoke break and Svidomo decided to show patriotism

[aleksr2005]

Wait, who recently wrote that they are inundated with work for China. That they are doing better than before the failure of cooperation with Russia!

[Artemiy_2]

Aha
Just like ZIM, it reached 50 strongholds per year

[igorbrsv]

Yeah. The whole of China overwhelmed

[sgr291158]

Bulk Khokhlyatsk children, thought that Europe will now start buying your engines in wagons.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

For that fought for it and ran.

Without cooperation with Russia and without a Russian market for the company Motor Sich - END.

The USA and the EU have their own planes and their engine manufacturers, China needs only technology, and the only option is to work with Russia together and prosper Ukraine itself ruined.

[aszzz888]

The company's management announced the transition to a four-day work week.

Well, just like in Europe! According what fought, then ran into it.

[exo]

Quote: himRa

The Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Labor, Social Policy and Veterans' Affairs, Yaroslav Nilov, commented on the idea of ​​a four-day work week proposed by the Federation of Independent Trade Unions of Russia (FNPR) and urged to study all the pros and cons of this innovation.

unions want to remind about themselves and not Medvedev ... why are all the dogs hanging on him !?
the trade union movement ,, died ,, not only in Russia but also around the world ... for a long time the trade unions have not been defenders of working people, but a “black box office”

In the Russian Federation, there was no trade union movement. And in old Europe, unions live and prosper.

[himRa]

Quote: exo

In the Russian Federation, there was no trade union movement. And in old Europe, unions live and prosper.

let's figure it out I disagree with you ...
in a number of countries such as: Germany, England serious laws have been adopted restricting the trade union movement, political requirements are strictly prohibited (before criminal prosecution) you can familiarize yourself - they don’t mean anything, they flourish!
if you look at the tendency of the trade union movement in the world, it is obvious that it lived, while the USSR was, and the capitalists do not need workers' demands!
There is another point that the state and not only ours have taken on some functions of the trade unions!
The number of trade unions (quantitatively) and strikes has fallen sharply in the world, this can be clearly seen in the example of Germany, England and the United States ....
the union turned into a black box office, if you remember how it was in the USSR, say 10 people add up to 100 rubles and each of 10 in a month is given an amount of 1000 rubles ...
,, toothy ,, trade unions are no longer anywhere in the world, unfortunately

[Keyser soze]

toothy ,, trade unions are no longer anywhere in the world, unfortunately

There are even those that you haven’t dreamed of — they clean governments a week. Greece, France. And laws on protecting workers are generally full of socialism, which we never dreamed of. Dismissing a worker in these countries is simply unrealistic.

[exo]

And I do not agree with you. As a person who lived in the USSR and was a trade union, I can say that the Soviet trade union is: collecting contributions, distributing tickets and orders. Look at the number of strikes in aviation in Europe in recent years. There are a lot of them. From there, and high wages. Pay pilots in China and Vietnam, out of brackets. There are other factors there. Our specialists often have to work in European countries when servicing aircraft. And try the Europeans to offer processing or work at other rates. The answer is immediately: the union forbids.

[igorbrsv]

Or bloom and smell. For me, this is an instrument in political games, such as greenpeace. Although what thrives is yes

[MegaPups]

The main thing for me is that they continue to produce components for motoblocks. This is the only thing that interests me in the products of this office))))

[exo]

Not surprisingly. In addition to Russia, there are few who are interested in Motor Sich products, even in the form of their only, competitive product: variants of TV3-117. The point is not that nobody lets them into Europe and America. Simply, they have nothing to offer. Even the USSR, in terms of engines, was seriously behind the West. But in general, the entire destruction of the created (with great difficulty) in the Soviet years, upsets.

[av58]

It is interesting to China. He sleeps and sees how to outbid specialists, school, ready-made engines, knowledge and experience.

[vlad106]

Quote: av58

To China. He sleeps and sees how to outbid specialists, school, ready-made engines, knowledge and experience.

we had to do this for a long time! outbid specialists from all over Ukraine, technology, etc.

[Eugene Besfamilny]

The only area of ​​activity in which they live is warranty service and the replacement of exhausted helicopter engines sold by Russia abroad. This is a considerable amount, but not comparable to the supply for new helicopters.

[Igoresha]

few people (in Russia) know, but the voters gave Boguslaev a ride in the elections, preferred "Servant of the People", a wedding photographer https://zanoza-news.com/?p=147678 I recall Lavrov with an imperishable phrase.

[abc_alex]

Very, very sorry. Those technologies and the school that are present on Siche were not created by those who are today jumping and yelling.

[av58]

Soon they will be sold with giblets to the Chinese, who are sleeping and see how to get the technology for designing and manufacturing decent engines.

[Eugene Besfamilny]

In China and in Russia, already about 90 percent of the most sane specialists. There are only horses left.

[viktor.]

And yet we are of the same blood We have the whole country MOTOR SICH

[Berkut24]

Others argue that nothing terrible happened, and let the products be stored in warehouses rather than supplying them to "Russian aggressors who will fly to bomb Kiev on these engines."

Keep it up! Only we don’t fly on motors. Like sitting on tank engines we don’t drive. And fill the warehouses, it will be useful to us.

[Kramb]

Few people in Russia know, but the director of Motorsich flew with a whistle in the elections to the Supreme Rada of Ukraine. So this is a banal revenge of another corrupt "former Komsomol" activist. The types didn't choose me - EAT. This happens in Ukraine, not only at this enterprise. Oh well ...

[abc_alex]

Well, it’s strange to think that in Russia the military forum does not know Boguslaev. And they wrote about his embarrassment in the elections.
But this revenge is unlikely. Rather, the inevitable logical outcome of a break in ties with Russia. Still, the lineup of Sich's engines is focused on Soviet and therefore Russian technology. Before Maidan, one Rosvertol placed orders for a billion or more dollars on Sich.
The loss of such a customer cannot be compensated for by anything.
And Boguslaev always understood this perfectly. Therefore, he used to say that if he was allowed to work with Russia, he would sell the plant to the Chinese. By the way, he was forbidden to do this. :)

[bar]

Quote: Nycomed

Now I will express an idiotic thought: what if Russia buys out Motor Sich from Ukraine?

I think those who needed it, they themselves left a long time ago. Perm motors do not do their PD-14 for MS-21 from scratch.

[exo]

Quote: av58

It is interesting to China. He sleeps and sees how to outbid specialists, school, ready-made engines, knowledge and experience.

China, to Western technologies for engine building, cannot get close. And for them, until now, even the level of the late USSR is not available. Therefore, MotorSich technologies will obviously not interfere with them. But one must understand that today's engine building in the post-Soviet space is the mid-80s, in the USA and Europe. PD-14 and PD-16, we will not consider. For now, this is a "pig in a poke".

[NF68]

That is how Motor Sich can order a long life.

[Starchugan]

This is very good for Russia! Soon we will have new highly qualified specialists and workers .. With all the developments, and maybe with equipment purchased, of course, not directly .. All the same, Putin is cunning and knows how to wait

[Dzafdet]

Arrive, be sure to fly, and all to ruin! But later ...

[APASUS]

Europe will provide Ukraine with modern airplanes, diesel locomotives, electronics, medicine, fashionable gadgets and the latest achievements in defense. The question is rather about how Ukraine should pay for all this?

[Eugene Besfamilny]

How what? And dupes on what?

[tolmachiev51]

- “Others argue that nothing terrible has happened, and let it be better to have the products in warehouses than to supply them to“ Russian aggressors who will fly in to bomb Kiev on the same engines ”- then what about the pan-heads !? You will receive your salary with the motors !?

[cat Rusich]

Employees of MotorSich have an extra day off for a trip to Vienna (on Hyperlup ) - drink "kava", go to the Vienna Opera ... Glory WITHOUT VISA!

[Alexey Maksimov]

haven't they closed there yet?