Corruption and opposition. How is it in Ukraine?

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The Moscow City Hall did not coordinate the march of our radical opposition anticorruptionists along the 17 boulevards of August. The Maidan against corruption and Putin is postponed again, because the Kremlin does not show good will, does not coordinate ...

Corruption and opposition. How is it in Ukraine?




In the squeaks of corruption


In general, corruption and the “radical opposition” are twin brothers: we say “corruption”, we mean the radical “opposition” fighting it, we say “radical opposition”, we mean its fight against “corruption”. At the head of this fight is the “Anti-Corruption Fund” by Alexei Navalny, who tirelessly seeks corrupt officials among political opponents.

For some reason, the opposition has declared President Putin to be their main adversary, and the whole struggle comes down either to an ultimatum or to a petition: “Putin, leave!” But the Investigative Committee became interested in corruption in the FBK itself: will there be something now?

In general, such a “fight against corruption” suggests the insanity of our radical opposition: President of Ukraine Yanukovych “left” under a hail of such accusations and did they defeat corruption? After that, it bloomed in Ukraine in a riotous color. Or is this the deliberate lie of our opposition: does it replace its real goals with false accusations?

By the training manual of the US State Department


Note that the “fight against corruption” is the hobby of the US State Department, which tirelessly searches for it all over the world, except the USA, and finds and arranges some kind of beautiful protest along with a coup, as a result of which their puppet comes to power like Poroshenko in Ukraine, and corruption in this unfortunate country rises to unprecedented heights.

Say, is this an accident? No, regularity. No matter how "honest" the pogrom is in any country, as a result, the country is destroyed, which leads to an increase in general crime, one of the forms of which is the notorious corruption.

If our "anti-corruption" will succeed, as in Ukraine, Russia will choke on corruption, as Ukraine choked after the coup, do not go to the grandmother to guess. But our anti-corruption fighters go to the US Embassy for scientific advice on building “fragile democracy”; there they are assured that this time everything will be different, transparent and fair, and not like in Ukraine. And they hint at possible grants, and even a trip to the city of Washington, so that they show boundless credulity. Corruption, however ...

In reality, only specialized bodies such as the Investigative Committee can fight corruption, and they do, and there are real “landings” of large defendants, I would certainly like to have more, and this appeal could be addressed to the Russian president.

Corruption and Opposition


In the picture that the “anti-corruption officials” paint for us, Putin and his government are sleeping and see how to steal something somewhere. When do they only build the Crimean bridge and hypersonic missiles? Or maybe “bridges and missiles” is the reason for the authorities accusing corruption of our pro-American opposition, they just fulfill the order of the US Embassy, ​​paid for by some grants?

Then our "anti-corruption" - political corruption. In the words of the leader of the world proletariat, Vladimir Lenin, the political prostitutes who sold themselves to the US State Department “for a packet of cookies and a barrel of jam”, because such a “fight against corruption” is political prostitution.

When politicians begin to “fight corruption”, this is political corruption, the use of the Old Testament problems of society, that is, crime, for political purposes. They go on forgery from the very beginning; how can we talk with liars about investigating some ulcers in society? And besides the “fight against corruption”, our “radical opposition is not doing anything else.” Protest actions with “screwing up” activists for stories in the Western press are just a form of a report for the received grants “to fight Putin”.

Look what the same fighters against corruption under the American scientific democratic leadership have done in Ukraine! After the “Revolution of Dignity”, their Western, honorable curators held open corruption for Petro Poroshenko as president! And half the country went to work: some in Russia, some in Europe. This is no longer corruption, it is a robbery from which anyone can be saved.

In fact, such a “fight against corruption” fulfills the function of political scrap, which radical oppositionists are ruining everything left and right, declaring their opponents “corrupt”. What a radical solution to the problems! They tear the country apart, and then, due to the devastation, general crime increases, including corruption: for which they fought, they ran into it!

Maidan and corruption


Street maidan politicians cannot fight corruption, because it is always organized and located in large offices. On the contrary, corrupt officials always use street politicians for their own purposes, becoming in the ranks of “anti-corruption fighters”. In order to cash in on the “fight against the regime” and receive an amnesty for his fraud as “fighters against the regime”. By this way, by the way, Poroshenko made his way to power, sponsoring Maidan activists and even showing up a couple of times in Maidan vicissitudes.

It’s a paradox, but corruption fighters are actually fighting for even greater corruption, as happened in Ukraine. Our wrestlers squint at this and demand the same from the rest: everything will be different with us. They were told about this at the American embassy?

In our imperfect world, corruption will always be, it, like the mafia, is immortal, therefore, for political adventurers, it will always be tempting to deal with their political opponents under the guise of fighting corruption. With the same success it is possible to fight criminal crime and prostitution: what prospects are opening up before our radical opposition!
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  1. +34
    16 August 2019 15: 10
    "Russia will drown in corruption", "This is no longer corruption, this is robbery, from which whoever can escape." Is Russia not choking on corruption now? Is there no outright robbery of the population now?
    1. +34
      16 August 2019 15: 17
      Quote: Tomic3
      And now Russia is not drowning in corruption? Now there is no outright robbery of the population?

      And everywhere they poke the State Department .. they say everyone who is against the regime, all supporters of the State Department, complete nonsense. There would not have been such a predatory attitude towards their own people, while the country's leadership would have shown an honest lifestyle by their own example, and there would have been no protests. People can’t tolerate crooks, so they’re coming out ..
      1. -2
        16 August 2019 15: 47
        Yes, who is robbing you, God forgive me ... what protests? what was not allowed before the election? Do you read the text along? these protests were and began only because of the non-admission of candidates. gradually a bunch of wise men decided to fight corruption. what proposals did they voice? at least one? in general, we are all trying to fight something, but it’s somehow strange. not a single sentence, only slogans. so and so I can, down with the blondes from the Duma. only dark people should work !!!
        1. +24
          16 August 2019 15: 53
          And who told you, sho these ...... oppositionists are struggling with something ??? They want their piece kulebyaki, no more. And take part in the corruption that they fight ...
          1. +4
            17 August 2019 20: 05
            What is corruption in capitalist Russia? this is your hard earned, sacred private property !!! laughing
        2. +20
          16 August 2019 16: 12
          Putin voiced many proposals and even annually issues decrees for their implementation. Did you do a lot?
          1. +3
            16 August 2019 18: 57
            Does Putin have real power? Does he manage something at all?
            In my opinion, he simply plays the role of the Good King on TV, but really different people rule the country.
          2. -12
            17 August 2019 06: 23
            Quote: Tomic3
            Putin voiced many proposals and even annually issues decrees for their implementation. A lot of fulfilled?

            Did you go to school or did it take your roof hormones off? Read what you wrote. The government must fulfill, not Putin.
            1. +7
              17 August 2019 16: 49
              Well, the government has not complied.
              Who should ask him?
              I asked? No!
              "I am satisfied with the work of the government."
              Conclusion: decrees for ticks and raising the rating, but initially do not care about the implementation.
          3. -4
            17 August 2019 13: 23
            Judging by your car in the picture, you are the most depressed, powerless and destitute laughing
          4. +1
            18 August 2019 07: 32
            So they also promised me from birth that I would live under communism, and then they promised democracy and publicity .... where is it all?
            Do not confuse political promises with real life.
            Many of the promises were fulfilled by the "democrats" or the Americans ...
        3. +17
          16 August 2019 18: 10
          Namesake, dear hi Our leadership is purposefully robbing us. At least by this very pension reform ... and not only by it. But about the fight against corruption, yes. It hides behind cellars and the like. They are not fighting with the problems created in the Kremlin and the White House, but they really want to chop off a piece of the pie. I am very critical of our hands, but I will never stand under the banner of these idiots.
          1. +8
            16 August 2019 18: 22
            Quote: 210ox
            but I will never stand under the banner of these idiots.

            Unfortunately, no one except Navalny is raising this topic, even Zyu fled to the bushes and called all the State Department supporters .. I, too, am not a supporter of Navalny, but I support, although passively, these protests .. Now when there is a leader from the socialists, then I will actively support and I myself will take part in the rallies .. but there is no idea at all left, there are only those who are waiting for Navalny to do the dirty work, and they will saddle the result ..
          2. 0
            17 August 2019 13: 38
            210query (Dmitry)
            Our leadership is deliberately robbing us. Although this pension reform itself ...


            Belarusians are also purposefully robbing the Old Man’s government, at least by this very pension reform. Raised age and conditions for retirement there are very shitty.
        4. 0
          16 August 2019 23: 32
          There is a very specific proposal!
          Moreover, it is fully tested in the world and should be applied constantly.
          And so: everyone who is in the civil service undergoes an audit of capital, property and TD, all that is used in fact. If after verification everything is confirmed, then the norm.
          1. +6
            17 August 2019 06: 38
            Quote: Revival
            There is a very specific proposal!
            Moreover, it is fully tested in the world and should be applied constantly.
            And so: everyone who is in the civil service undergoes an audit of capital, property and TD, all that is used in fact. If after verification everything is confirmed, then the norm.

            This offer is already 100 years old at lunch. They write declarations, which would be checked (by STAFF, too), but it seems that with only one purpose, they should thrust openly compromising evidence until it’s too little to start kicking or throw some kind of fake. The officials check the officials, therefore there is no sense, and they will not allow public controllers (for example, it would be possible to organize election commissions from the society) in their cabinets with skeletons. And we do not live in a tight circle. hi
            1. -5
              17 August 2019 11: 07
              Quote: DEPHIHTO
              for example, it would be possible to organize election commissions from society)

              Already members of these commissions will be pulling money from those caught ....

              Yes, you put 90% of those who are dissatisfied upstairs: they HAPPN so that everyone’s eyes will pop out ...

              No one from Mars arrived, all from one country ....
      2. +12
        16 August 2019 15: 57
        Quote: Svarog
        And everywhere they poke the State Department .. they say everyone who is against the regime, all supporters of the State Department

        On the one hand, this is even good for the opposition. When the authorities accuse all adequate oppositionists of working for the State Department, people slowly begin to understand that something is not right here. By such actions, the government nullifies its main argument. Only the most loyal nightingale viewers believe this ...
        Quote: Svarog
        There would not have been such a predatory attitude towards their own people, while the country's leadership would have shown an honest lifestyle by their own example, and there would have been no protests.

        It could not be otherwise. A thief cannot help stealing. He is not able to stop either.
        Quote: Svarog
        People can’t tolerate crooks, so they’re coming out ..

        Well, what else remains for them? This is a natural reaction for a normal, healthy person.
        When the authorities suppress all sorts of changes, when there is no evolutionary development of society, sooner or later a revolutionary explosion occurs. Let’s hope, although I personally do not believe much in this, that mass protests will force the ruling regime to turn to face the people. Otherwise, revolutionary upheavals are simply inevitable. If one could ask the last Russian Tsar, he would confirm these words.
        Yes, I also want to say a word about the so-called systemic opposition. She kills herself with her inaction and collusion with the authorities. Their ratings are already below the plinth. You see how many people can bring these parties to the rally. This is a form of shame! They are not capable of making any competition for a systemic opposition, even all taken together. In fact, by its stupid actions, the government itself released the situation out of control. Now every time to suppress the protests will have to throw all the forces of the police. Of course, this cannot end in good.
      3. -9
        16 August 2019 16: 35
        Quote: Svarog
        the country's leadership would show an honest lifestyle by example

        Vladimir, here you as an adult can say what leadership should show?

        I remember that the first "democratic" mayor of Moscow, Popov, repeatedly impudently broadcast from TV screens "yes, I take money, but these are not bribes, but payment for services." And neither the country's leadership opened a case, nor did anyone go to the rally! Popov did not have anything for this!
        And if now some mayor will brand and say the same to the camera? I am sure that without any rallies he will be provided with bunks.

        You can give an example of Serdyukov and Vasilyeva, who were not imprisoned. I didn’t stand in court with a candle, but apparently they didn’t take them red-handed, and experienced lawyers could discourage indirect ones. Alas, but having a lot of money can afford good lawyers.
        But thousands of embezzlers (and not small ones, but mayors with governors), who did not have such lawyers, are already sitting for corruption.

        Tired of slogans. I would like to hear constructive suggestions.
      4. +1
        16 August 2019 20: 32
        Gaddafi in Libya was also "removed" under anti-corruption slogans, and the State Department had nothing to do with it, absolutely Yes
    2. +12
      16 August 2019 15: 28
      It is a pity that there is no real opposition in Russia. There are either conciliators like the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, or outright corrupt liberal grant-eaters. There is a radical opposition, but it has not grown out of the "short pants" of petty hooliganism.
      1. -1
        16 August 2019 15: 54
        And she will not be. Since it is not needed, there is no social request for it))
        1. +8
          16 August 2019 16: 30
          Quote: frog
          Bo there is no social request on it))

          As far as I can see, looking around, the demand for constructive opposition is huge. !!
          For Putin and EdRo vote only because more absolutely not for anyone, because all his rivals are either completely finished, or not known to anyone
          1. +14
            16 August 2019 19: 09
            Pensioners and older people who were thrown in gratitude with the pension reform voted in favor of Putin in the last election. They won’t go for him anymore, in their eyes he’s a liar, etc. Those who are younger than Putin have previously mistrusted, at least. About EDR and say nothing.
            Frankly, the social base of power is frankly none, it will certainly have consequences. What the authorities will do with this, I can’t imagine.
          2. -5
            16 August 2019 19: 20
            Yes, here's how no. And the reason is obvious, her spinal cord is sensed. If, as a constructive opposition, you propose a certain force that will try to correct the current state of affairs .... Then everything will be very sad, since the standard of living of all will subside 2-3 times. It’s at least 5 years old, but rather more. And this is with the mess that will be in the country. It is quite understandable. Well, who needs it ?? A credit of trust is a memorable ending ..... Doesn’t see the electorate meaning in this fuss, because it will be worse, but whether it will be better is a big question.
        2. -2
          16 August 2019 18: 59
          Bo there is no social request on it))

          How is it not? I already choked!
          And what is there?
          On the liberals and heaped up? No!
          To edro? No!
          Or do you think that there are NO queries at all?
          1. -1
            16 August 2019 19: 21
            Be healthy, take care of yourself ....
            From the point of view of changing the state of affairs systemically, no.
    3. +2
      16 August 2019 16: 05
      Quote: Tomic3
      And now Russia is not drowning in corruption

      Shchaz cons throw ...
      It's not about the extent of corruption, but about ways to combat it.
      Rallies to fight corruption are almost useless. Well, went outside, yelled, and then what?
      And then those who must fight corruption should take measures - the Investigative Committee. Or do the protesters naively think that after the rally, corrupt officials will massively confess?
      Is it obligatory to bring thousands of people to rallies and organize riots just to tell the Investigative Committee how to cook borsch How to work?
      That is, the true purpose of the rallies is different from the stated ones. About that and speech.

      PS: But how beautifully Navalny started in 2007 - "let's hire detectives and lawyers together, and we will create an evidence base for trials of corrupt officials" ... I almost believed him.
      1. +11
        16 August 2019 17: 50
        Quote: Perun's grandson
        Rallies to fight corruption are almost useless. Well, went outside, yelled, and then what?

        Judging by your comments, nothing can be done, let everything remain as it is ..
        Quote: Perun's grandson
        It's not about the extent of corruption, but about ways to combat it.

        There is a way to deal with it, for starters you need to change people regularly, at least once every 3 years, if there are no achievements .. And we have a guarantor for 20 years, everything is rowing .. the galley goes to the bottom, but it doesn’t blow ..
        Second, the principle “we don’t surrender our own people” does not work for the good of the country, but only works for “our own people,” so corruption comes from the head ..
        third .. Medvedev and all his ministers have screwed up how many times? Has anyone incurred responsibility? Everything is in its place, or one "bread" place has been replaced with an even more bread one .. Is this not corruption. What do you think there is nothing you can do about it? Yes, easy, there would be a desire .. So you need to show the stuck tovarischas that we will not endure .. how will you, besides the rallies, bring this to them?
        1. -2
          16 August 2019 18: 23
          Quote: Svarog
          Judging by your comments, nothing can be done, let everything remain as it is

          You can and should do it. Even rallies can achieve certain goals. It’s not to defeat corruption, I already wrote about it. And to draw attention to local problems that the local leadership does not solve.

          Quote: Svarog
          There is a way to deal with it, for a start you need to regularly change people

          Replacement for the sake of replacement? And where is the guarantee that the good will not be changed for the bad?

          Quote: Svarog
          if there are no achievements ..

          Now this is closer to the point. That is, there should be a mechanism for monitoring the effectiveness of officials not according to reports that they regularly send upstairs and in which "everything is fine, beautiful marquise."
          There should be a mechanism for monitoring the real state of affairs. And to control people who inspire confidence, that is, honest and incorruptible, but at the same time professionals.
          Oh, where to get them in the right amount ...

          Quote: Svarog
          the principle of "we do not hand over our own", does not work for the good of the country, but works only for "ours"

          The government is not a homogeneous mass of like-minded people. There is at least a more pro-Western liberal group, and there is a more pro-Russian one.
          To hand over someone from another group and weaken its position is not a problem. But colleagues will not approve of their own and reduce the sphere of influence (both power and money).
          This is among the elite not only in Russia. But also in the USA, China, etc.
          Only the emperor / leader / great helmsman who has absolute power, before whom everyone will be equal, can change this alignment. But this does not fit into the "ideals of democracy", however.
          1. +6
            16 August 2019 19: 20
            Quote: Perun's grandson
            .... draw attention to local problems that the local leadership does not solve.

            Rallies are needed to force the leadership of the Russian Federation to move. And do not translate the arrows on the local authorities, they do not determine the economic situation in the country.
            There should be a mechanism for monitoring the real state of affairs.

            See, even you understand that. But Putin didn’t get it for 20 years.
            The government is not a homogeneous mass of like-minded people.

            Well, why do we need a government like a swan, cancer and a pike? Who planted this "government" for us - the State Department? Or did we manage it ourselves?
            1. -11
              16 August 2019 20: 17
              Quote: Beringovsky
              no need to transfer the arrows to the local authorities, they do not determine the economic situation in the country

              A rally is just the wrong tool for change economic situation in the country.
              Although in Ukraine and in other countries (Georgia, Libya ...) it turned out by rallies to change the economic situation. But in all cases, the opposite of the expectations of the protesters.

              Quote: Beringovsky
              See, even you understand that. But Putin didn’t get it for 20 years.

              Judging by most of the naive comments, "even you understand this" should not be addressed to me. And how do you know what gets to Putin and what doesn't. I think that he will be more aware of all those present put together. And smarter than most, no matter how infuriated them. After all, he is beating the West in "big chess". And most would just break the wood.

              Quote: Beringovsky
              Well, why do we need a government that is like a swan, cancer and pike?

              I already wrote that the same situation is in all other countries except for absolute monarchies.
              If you think that, for example, in the USA, Republicans and Democrats are like-minded people, then you are deeply mistaken.
              1. +6
                16 August 2019 22: 53
                You know, I like to occasionally look at VO. Where else do you find a supporter of power? In life, they are somehow not seen.
                Rallies and protests are needed not to solve problems in the country, but to force the authorities to solve them.
                And do not poke Ukraine everywhere, except for it there are 200 more countries in the world. And protests are a normal occurrence both in Europe and in the USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea, etc. They also achieved nothing?
              2. +8
                16 August 2019 23: 02
                I don’t care what comes to Putin and what doesn’t. I see the result of his reign and he does not suit me. He sat out the extra 10 years.
                And he wins only in your fantasies and on TV. But in reality it is full of failures - Maidan, sanctions, creaked, downed Boeing, doping scandal, collapsed ruble, recession in the country, etc.
                Where are his victories, what are they?
                1. -9
                  16 August 2019 23: 18
                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  Where are his victories, what are they?

                  (aside): but if you do not feed, then ... request
                  1. +2
                    17 August 2019 00: 05
                    And if you do not feed, then they will fly away ...
                    That's it.
                2. -8
                  17 August 2019 00: 17
                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  Where else do you find a supporter of power?

                  Yes, with the principle "who is not with us is against us" and hanging labels, you will not gather many supporters.

                  Quote: Beringovsky
                  And he wins only in your fantasies and on TV.

                  What are "TV fantasies"? Just the facts:
                  Yeltsin's 90s. There is a war in the Caucasus. The country has wild inflation. Foreigners host as they want. Lawlessness of crime. Factories are closing in thousands. Military facilities are de-energized for debts. Unemployment. The media inspire us with inferiority.
                  Is it the same now?
          2. +4
            16 August 2019 19: 44
            Quote: Perun's grandson
            There is at least a more pro-Western liberal group,

            and who interfered, with such support from the population, will get rid of this group? Nonsense is all about groupings, in the 2000s all the leaders of alternative groups left Russia, and some sat down ... what prevents them from getting rid of them? When it was necessary to get rid ..
            1. -6
              16 August 2019 20: 35
              Quote: Svarog
              and who interfered, with such support from the population, will get rid of this group?

              If both groups are influential, then when one tries to get rid of the other, both will suffer greatly. And for foreign "friends" this will generally become a gift - instead of solving external and internal problems, to switch the attention of the groups to the struggle with each other.

              In the history of the USSR, there has already been a similar war between two influential Stalinist and Trotskyist groups. To most, it is known as the "repression of 1937", although the war went on for several years.

              People's support is certainly great, but how can it really help? Example: Putin has issued wonderful decrees, and liberals are sabotaging them. To go to a rally with the slogans "Chubais on the pitchfork?"
              1. +3
                16 August 2019 20: 39
                Quote: Perun's grandson
                In the history of the USSR, there has already been a similar war between two influential Stalinist and Trotskyist groups. To most, it is known as the "repression of 1937", although the war went on for several years.

                Of course it was with them, if desired, they coped without problems .. Do not remind me how it all ended? laughing
                Quote: Perun's grandson
                People's support is certainly great, but how can it really help? Example: Putin has issued wonderful decrees, and liberals are sabotaging them. To go to a rally with the slogans "Chubais on the pitchfork?"

                There is a dossier for every liberal, and just for every activist, and there would be no desire to reassure anyone .. And all the more, on Chubais, and for his saying that he is ready to kill 20 ml of people in the name of democracy, it’s already necessary to put. History to help you .. if you know the story, then do not write nonsense ..
                1. -6
                  16 August 2019 20: 51
                  Quote: Svarog
                  Of course it was, and if desired, they cope without problems ..

                  About "no problem" you are exaggerating. In 1933, Stalin did not have anywhere near the power even to openly declare war on Trotsky. For a long time, there was a covert internal party struggle. Several People's Commissars of the NKVD were replaced, and each of the next repressed the previous one as an enemy of the people. Many quietly settled their personal scores ...

                  It’s only the United States superheroes in comics who defeat everyone in one fell swoop. And at us Dobrynya for many days in a row dealt with the Serpent Gorynych and defeated with great difficulty.
                  1. +5
                    16 August 2019 22: 54
                    Quote: Perun's grandson
                    It’s only the United States superheroes in comics who defeat everyone in one fell swoop. And at us Dobrynya for many days in a row dealt with the Serpent Gorynych and defeated with great difficulty.

                    Dear Putin, he’s been in power for 20 years .. what kind of comics are there .. compare what Stalin did in 20 years and your Putin ... and the conditions in which Stalin worked were very different from today's galley .. and your defense is more like a comic book rather than the reasoning of an adult.
                    1. -1
                      21 August 2019 17: 46
                      Quote: Svarog
                      your Putin

                      He is yours wink

                      PS: minuses were thrown over from the big mind "who does not shout with us is our enemy" belay
              2. -2
                17 August 2019 01: 10
                Then, following your conceptual framework, I note.
                And at 37m went to rallies? Or are actions so clear?
      2. -1
        16 August 2019 19: 00
        I almost believed him.

        And not you alone recourse And you just had to read a biography ....
    4. +6
      16 August 2019 16: 29
      Now Russia is one complete corruption, starting with medicine, until you pay the doctor, no one will look at you. In the traffic police until you pay the exams for a driver’s license you won’t get. The rest is already paid. Soon we will put counters on our artesian well. am
      1. -6
        16 August 2019 16: 46
        Not true. My children did not pay for exams either in universities or in the traffic police. They simply had both knowledge and skills. Doctors - a separate story. It is considered good manners to thank the waiter - the man who just brought you food. And to thank the doctor on whom your health depends, or even life - this is fu, this is bad manners. But it should be the other way around.
        1. +9
          16 August 2019 17: 27
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          And to thank the doctor on whom your health depends, or even life - this is fu, this is bad manners.

          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          But it should be the other way around.

          So they wrote you the opposite
          Quote: machinistvl
          until the doctor pays, no one will look at you

          Feel the difference? Not after the doctor has provided assistance or if you want a service, but before that, the quality of this assistance does not depend on your advance payment.
          1. -7
            16 August 2019 17: 33
            Even how it depends. To be treated for nothing - for nothing to be treated.
            1. +6
              16 August 2019 17: 44
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              Even how it depends.

              Does not depend! It's one thing to tip the waiter for what he served, so he served ... To thank the doctor for the fact that he was busy with you and listened to your nagging. But they wrote to you about the options when the doctor takes the money, only because he is a doctor. Unfortunately, I often have to turn to doctors. And I'm a little in the subject.
            2. +1
              16 August 2019 19: 05
              Even how it depends.

              Does not depend. I wanted to write, but Harry.km clearly stated everything. Probably much in the subject.
        2. +7
          16 August 2019 17: 50
          You probably live in a different dimension.
        3. -1
          17 August 2019 08: 26
          Not true. My children did not pay for exams either in universities or in the traffic police. They simply had both knowledge and skills.


          And most importantly - the right connections
      2. 0
        16 August 2019 17: 20
        Quote: machinistvl
        The rest and so everything is paid

        We live in some different Russia. I forgot when the last time someone "brought it".
        1. +8
          16 August 2019 17: 51
          Come to us in the Belgorod region.
          1. +4
            16 August 2019 18: 42
            Addressing the Grandson of Perun.
            In response to the actions of the opposition, and perhaps this was Putin’s plans, there are two sluggish messages.
            The first of them - Russia is steadily increasing its foreign exchange reserves because the oligarchs who are sanctioned or may be subject to sanctions want to transfer their assets to Russia, but they don’t want to invest in rubles, give them the gold. What to say about this, I do not even know. The last ten, and according to other estimates, --- for six years, gold has been continuously growing in value. Russia, buying up gold, is ready to oust the UAE from fourth place. We have only 18,1% of gold reserves, this is $ 90-100 billion. And how many were taken out? It becomes disgusting from such a measure of localization of oligarchs in Russia. They also dictate their will! But supposedly this is a step towards the wishes of the working people.
            And further. Not later than yesterday, the governor of either the Tomsk or Omsk region asked Putin to localize the industrialists who had enterprises here so that they pay taxes at the place of production, that is, in the region itself, and not in Moscow. This means that Moscow’s budget is becoming slightly poorer, and the regions will seriously increase. Moscow will become less attractive to provincial youth, which will slightly reduce the degree of protest moods in the capital, and the region will flourish and become more attractive for life. That's how it is. But who will guarantee that the new regional budget will be for the good, and will not be stolen.
            And most importantly - complete conspiracy, some hints, small, unsystematic steps. Like, if anything, the center is not to blame.
            But some initiative is visible. I’m not sure that in response to the actions of the opposition. But apparently they want it to look like this
            1. -1
              16 August 2019 21: 49
              Quote: depressant
              The last ten, and according to other estimates, --- for six years, gold is constantly growing in price.

              I would not want to contradict. But gold is the same product as money.
              And their prices always fluctuate.
        2. +5
          16 August 2019 19: 21
          I forgot when the last time someone "brought it".

          And I remember and it was in 2003 and not in Moscow laughing
          I thought, I thought how vile it felt and how everything chopped off. AND NOBODY HAVE DIVORED ME Ever.
          Then, many times he made fun of the gaits (by the way in the Belgorod region), but no one has been trying to offer something like this for about 5 years, but I regularly pay fines. I think that 90% grassroots corruption is primarily the fault of those who give and not those who take it.
      3. -1
        16 August 2019 19: 02
        Traffic police until you pay exams for a driver’s license you will not receive.

        WHAT? I have not a single close acquaintance without rights. Not a single bribe.
        Maybe you are from Kuev? They say yes.

        To be honest, I don’t understand why the gay men might need to give a bribe at the exam.

        The program accepts the theory. What a weak mind you can’t learn traffic rules?

        With courtyards, everything is clear. If your hands are crooked and nodding shake, well, you can don’t give up, but training is easy to treat. Extortion will not work, because if you surrender, then surrender - everything is clear.

        The city remains. Theoretically, you can fill up, but the route is the same, in the car there is a camera and a couple of witnesses, so they have not felled for a long time.

        As a summary to extort nobody extorts. If you’re not ready to drive yourself, you can try to give a bribe. THERE IS SUCH I WOULD PLANT. After all, they will kill someone on the roads.
        1. +6
          16 August 2019 19: 55
          When do they only build the Crimean bridge and hypersonic missiles?
          Well, the Rottenberg bridge was "building", and the estimate took off very quickly .... and Putin did not do the hyper too ...
          1. -5
            17 August 2019 01: 24
            I love our people) of course he’s not) but it’s fires in the taiga with matches and he also raises the pension one of his own free will) it’s logical) like something good, it’s an achievement of everyone, like something bad, there’s only one person to blame))) nothing has changed for centuries)
          2. -2
            19 August 2019 12: 56
            well, the Rottenberg bridge "built", and the estimate took off very quickly

            And in order not to be branded as a chatterbox, lay out the INITIAL estimate of the bridge and "RISE". Details, with amounts. So that VO readers can compare positions that have "skyrocketed" in amounts?
        2. +2
          16 August 2019 20: 23
          Judging by your answer, you work in the traffic police, so only a traffic policeman can protect himself. But if not, then I am happy for you. You are honest am
          1. -2
            17 August 2019 01: 29
            do not carry nonsense. you probably don’t have your own car and just don’t know the state of things. cameras are hung on each plus in patrol cars. decisions are made by the court and not traffic police officers. softened as soon as they could the whole system. to pay the traffic cop is now the top of idiocy and just bad manners.
  2. -6
    16 August 2019 15: 13
    No need to steal. Enough to raise the retirement age!
  3. +5
    16 August 2019 15: 15
    When the current opposition simply struggled with corruption, they were generally safe for the authorities, but quite understandable and acceptable to many others!
    They wanted to go to the next level !!! They are still safe for the authorities, what kind of personalities they might hurt, but in general, it is doubtful ... but the general feeling is that they try only for themselves and do not limit themselves at all in methods!
    In short, then they were interesting and even sometimes effective, for which they had the support of a much larger number of citizens!
    And now ... that something is not visible significant, intelligible masses behind them!
    They didn’t work, they didn’t think over ... in general, they couldn’t!
  4. +15
    16 August 2019 15: 27
    Article summary:
    Black is white
    War is peace
    Truth is a lie
    1. -4
      17 August 2019 08: 27
      Article summary:
      Black is white
      War is peace
      Truth is a lie


      And you read it once 10 ...
  5. 0
    16 August 2019 15: 29
    Corruption, opposition, prostitution .... words are similar not so much in sound as in meaning.
  6. +10
    16 August 2019 15: 34
    And what kind of spiritualized people look from the title of the article? I have a monitor from their eyes began to myrrh.
  7. +8
    16 August 2019 15: 35
    There are claims so organize yourself. And then they gave the opposition platform to the State Department, no less thieving, arrogant, lying mongrels and grumbled. Do you think that bulk with its y-dishes will bring a bright future to the country? Wait! Not for this their foreign breeding sponsors feed. It’s a shame of course, when someone for one visit to the restaurant for lunch draws an amount equivalent to your half-monthly, or even monthly income. So where is it wrong? Unless in North Korea. They wanted capitalism, so be so kind as to accept with all devices. laughing
  8. +8
    16 August 2019 15: 40
    I decided to check the cat for corruption, brought it to the screen, and under the steadfast gaze of these impolite messiahs, he pounded the sausage stolen from the table !!!
    1. +1
      16 August 2019 19: 44
      It’s good that the portraits of the State Duma deputies from the EDR did not show. The cat would choke with saliva from envy ...
  9. +7
    16 August 2019 15: 57
    If our "anti-corruption" will succeed, as in Ukraine, Russia will choke on corruption, as Ukraine choked after the coup, do not go to the grandmother to guess.
    ... It's hard not to agree laughing In Ukraine, the "hungry" "anti-corruptionists" pushed the well-fed corrupt officials away from the trough, the same thing is happening in Russia. If the author of V. I. Lenin began to quote. Well, let's talk about the driving forces of the coup in Ukraine and the protest movements in Russia, I'll write sedition, it's not agents of the State Department are a generation that grew up in a period of freedom, independence and democracy ... a deceived generation ... And this generation is manipulated by those who have broken through to the trough in Ukraine, and those who are torn to the trough in Russia ... Only this generation does not understand, that he was thrown and thrown again ...
    1. 0
      16 August 2019 16: 45
      in my opinion already all who should have seized ...
      1. -2
        16 August 2019 17: 31
        But many want to fall to the trough.
        1. 0
          16 August 2019 17: 55
          Well, then ... such colorful examples of a beautiful life before your eyes ...)) in each news release ...
  10. +13
    16 August 2019 16: 35
    The author fully approved the thesis of the deputy. Prev GD Yarovoy: “The fight against corruption will ruin Russia.” So should we live with thieves?
    How can the FSB fight corruption - they themselves got head over heels in it, the prosecutor's office is whose son "solves" the garbage problem?
    Well, crooks can’t fight with themselves!
    1. -2
      16 August 2019 18: 53
      But the US and the EU will not destroy? These cheated corruption in their ranks called lobbying Shaw? Is radish horseradish sweeter?
      1. +5
        16 August 2019 20: 25
        Quote: Captive
        But the US and the EU will not destroy?

        Do not believe me, it’s violet to them!
    2. Alf
      +3
      16 August 2019 21: 54
      Quote: Silvestr
      Well, crooks can’t fight with themselves!

      Why can't they? They can, and how! They have been fighting for 20 years.
    3. -5
      16 August 2019 22: 06
      Quote: Silvestr
      The author fully approved the thesis of the deputy. Prev DG Yarovoy: “The fight against corruption will ruin Russia”

      So. Now read accusative: wink laughing

      Quote: Spring
      We are very concerned about what is happening in Ukraine, whereOne type of fight against corruption destroyed the entire system of state power

      What is wrong with this phrase? And why instead of her bring another demotivator?

      Oh yes .. I forgot ... you are here special on demotivators laughing
      1. +4
        17 August 2019 11: 00
        Quote: Cat Man Null
        So. And now we read accusatively:

        Quote: Spring
        We are very concerned about what is happening in Ukraine, where under the guise of fighting corruption, the entire system of state power was destroyed


        Novel, it is a shame to lie and distort the text, all the more so to you, the well-known "fighter" for the truth. We read the ORIGINAL:
        «Fighting corruption can destroy state. In Ukraine also fought with corruption, and see what happened. Under the guise of fighting corruption, the entire system of state power was destroyed. Nobody noticed this, but the power and the state collapsed, therefore, fight against corruption is bad for the state. I think that there is no need for this, everything is fine with corruption in Russia.»
        As you can see, the first sentence refers to Russia, and the second refers to Ukraine as an inappropriate model. laughing
        You are a sharpie, my friend! laughing laughing laughing
        1. -1
          17 August 2019 11: 20
          everything is fine with corruption in Russia

          A masterpiece! The phrase made my day! :)
        2. -3
          17 August 2019 11: 21
          Quote: Silvestr
          Read ORIGINAL

          The link was forgotten. Picabu - do not offer wink

          Sylvester, cook the diaper laughing
          1. +4
            17 August 2019 11: 38
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            The link was forgotten. Picabu - do not offer

            laughing
            http://1w.ru/articles/244-jarovaja-s-korrupciei-ne-nado-borotsja.html
            Quote: Cat Man Null
            Sylvester, cook the diaper

            laughing
            however, it’s difficult to please you. Only TASS and only for you
            1. -4
              17 August 2019 11: 45
              Quote: Silvestr
              http://1w.ru/articles/244-jarovaja-s-korrupciei-ne-nado-borotsja.html

              What do cattle and lackeys need to know about corruption? Nothing is better. Well, for those who know something, yes as no one explained anyhow, but whole Head of the anti-corruption committee of the Russian Federation

              What, as it were, hints - the source is clearly for the "creative and clear-eyed", not? wink

              Buddy, I asked you not to "pick-up" request

              By the way, about the "whole chapter":


              Article dated 24.10.2017. Your link will be a little later, 4.10.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX. So what about the "whole chapter" - according to your reference - lies ... however, like everything else.

              Sylvester, thoroughly necessary, thoroughly laughing
  11. +3
    16 August 2019 16: 39
    Novalny to Putin: "Go away!" we must assume that there are enough of those who decide that he is, well, such a good one, then he will give as he will! It’s even scary to think it’s how to be stupid. No, I believe in Russia, there are still many smart people in it, and people like Novalny will never be at the head of it.
  12. +11
    16 August 2019 17: 04
    And where is the law on property confiscation? Of course, our politicians will not create laws against themselves. If in Russia a person does not like the income gap, poor medicine, window dressing, corruption, bribe cops, the eternal crisis and rising prices, then this person is an enemy paid by the State Department. And if a person does not like the abundance of migrants who, for example, in Moscow commit 80% of crimes, then he is a fascist. Everything is simple and clear.
    1. -7
      16 August 2019 19: 16
      And the law on confiscation, if God forbid, will accept it, can take a skating rink for you too. As they say there would be a person - an article will be found.
      1. +7
        16 August 2019 21: 22
        Yes figs with me, the main thing is to remove vomit from the country's leadership
  13. -7
    16 August 2019 17: 19
    It's surprising how much the events in Moscow resemble those in Kiev in 2013. There, too, everything began with "festivities against corruption", and ended with the fact that all these "fighters", having seized power, began to steal even more. This "similarity" is generally not surprising. That in Kiev the indigenous people of Kiev, that in Moscow - the indigenous Muscovites decided that they knew how to live "correctly". And the people of Kiev are already paying for this by teaching them in their hometown Galitsai "to live according to the Galician rules." Let's see how this Moscow Shabbat ends.
  14. +9
    16 August 2019 17: 57
    Well, Kamenev drove another article to the next rallies negative
    1. 0
      16 August 2019 18: 32
      However, as an author does not bend, the VO cannot advance beyond the "Opinions" section of the website.
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  16. +10
    16 August 2019 19: 35
    The author is just a typical "fighter" against corruption. A kind of "bulk" with a patriotic flavor. True, under the word "corruption" the author perceives EVERYONE dissatisfied with the internal policies of the president and the government, but these are such trifles. Really, the author? And now I will prove it.
    Maidan against corruption and Putin again postponed

    The key word is "maidan". Uh-huh, As they say without words. And if with the words - endure, "otherwise it will be like Ukraine!" - and after that it is imperative to howl, like in horror films ...
    If our "anti-corruption" succeed, as in Ukraine, Russia will drown in corruption, as Ukraine drowned after a coup

    Oh oh oh. The author, actually, to sing "mantras", which will be "even worse than in Ukraine" several paragraphs in a row, but in different words - reminds NLP and zombie.
    Look what the same fighters against corruption under the American scientific democratic leadership have done in Ukraine!

    And what have they done? They ruined the country, killed the remnants of industry, performed medical experiments (remember who the chief physician of all Ukraine is there) and continue in the same vein. This we already know, thank God we have not forgotten how to read in Russia yet. In extreme cases, there are Soloviev.
    It’s a paradox, but corruption fighters are actually fighting for even greater corruption, as happened in Ukraine.

    The author ... A horror story called "like in Ukraine" has already set the teeth on edge. Which allows us to ask you a question: also, perhaps, according to the "training manual" spar?
    But the conclusion is amazing!
    With the same success it is possible to fight criminal crime and prostitution: what prospects are opening up before our radical opposition!

    Translating the author into Russian from the Russian language: any form of protest against the government is an empty matter, but accusations of "corruption to the State Department" are by no means a joke.
    If the author thought a little with his head, he would come to the conclusion: there is NO real opposition in power. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, the SR - those who are "represented" in the State Duma are typical opportunists. The people's dissatisfaction with the internal policy of the president and the government is growing. Navalny and his comrades see this and just want to lead the protest movement that will sooner or later take to the streets.
    But here's the paradox. Navalny was not "closed" for twenty years ... but they are being cared for and cherished ... But if you, the author, try to create a new, real political force that will be in real opposition to the current government - well, for you, as for Golunov, even if they stand up, they will just sit next to them.
    The author, do not write more on such topics, the Kremlin speechwriters and their manuals are sick.
  17. +5
    16 August 2019 21: 40
    ehh that the Russian Federation without Ukraine would do? And what would Kamenev write every time?
    They would bend ... and you can always nod and throw a stone at the neighbors' garden ..
    Chetamuukraintsev ..
    From everything written is clear
    The opposition is solely to blame for corruption in the Russian Federation (despite the fact that it was also created by the current government to drain steam) and the harmful influence of Ukraine ..
    in general, the enemies are identified. It remains to destroy them ... these thieves "oppositionists" with Ukraine. laughing
    Kamenev is so interesting to read ... and think, is it really so easy to write agitation? Is it really so easy to hesitate with the party line ..
    1. +2
      16 August 2019 22: 23
      The opposition is solely to blame for corruption in the Russian Federation (despite the fact that it was also created by the current government to drain steam) and the harmful influence of Ukraine ..

      Yes, not a harmful effect, but indicative. Type of babayki for babies.
      - You won’t eat, a woman will come ...
      So they scare us with Ukraine - like, since you are against the government, then a woman will come, read - it will become like in Ukraine ...
      1. -5
        17 August 2019 01: 37
        Are you still in school? otherwise I'm sorry to see hidden meanings in an extremely simple text, only a person with great imagination can. Why is the example of Ukraine bad in order not to make such mistakes? fate gave you a great opportunity to see how it can be. and instead of understanding this, you and others like you persistently try to show everyone around that this is not so. what for? out of stupidity? on purpose?
        1. -1
          17 August 2019 10: 20
          Dima.
          fate gave you a great opportunity to see how it can be.

          They saw, made conclusions - then what?
          and instead of understanding this, you and others like you persistently try to show everyone around that this is not so. what for? out of stupidity? on purpose?

          Judging by this phrase, you study at school. And apparently not very successful. Or you, do not bring, of course, Lord, sclerosis.
          Where did I write that what happened in Ukraine is good? Proof in the studio.
          If for you personally, you need to do it 20 times a day on the Internet, 15 times in the press, 40 times in the news, and at least 4 more programs on TV in prime time to repeat how badly in Ukraine is YOUR PERSONAL grief.
        2. -1
          17 August 2019 16: 34
          And what is the bad example of Ukraine for the upper classes, so as not to make those mistakes as there?
          And it’s great to list how the top people brought the supposedly irresponsible people of Ukraine, and the scoundrels supposedly took advantage of this.
          With us, only the people should not swing with understanding?
          1. 0
            17 August 2019 23: 06
            Quote: Revival
            And what is the bad example of Ukraine for the upper classes, so as not to make those mistakes as there?

            Duc, uncle - it was said by your own skakuas: "Ukraine is not Russia" ...

            What is incomprehensible? wink
            1. 0
              18 August 2019 01: 28
              As I understand it, you always write comments like, to put it mildly, "ringing emptiness", and not on the case
      2. -2
        17 August 2019 11: 22
        Quote: Honest Citizen
        So we scare Ukraine

        Well, it seemed like a little something - NATO soldiers.
        You will not feed the power of thieves, you will feed the NATO soldier. laughing
        the logic of the explanation (although we have no better, just a little that the Kremlin and Putin) of all the bad is simply surprising, these are all the intrigues of external "enemies" (in fact, partners) - internal "liberals" and the opposition.
        Ideal for shot lists .. you and you .. are guilty of digging in Stockholm .. laughing
        the author thinks that we have a society somewhere in the 20-30 years of the last century when it was possible with slogans and agitation ..
        they frighten Ukraine (I didn’t think that we would get to this - first #VUkrainevseploho and then #HotitekakvUkraine)
        and when there is #KakvUkraine-the guilty will also be found!
  18. 0
    17 August 2019 06: 16
    The Maidan against corruption and Putin is postponed again, because the Kremlin does not show good will, does not coordinate ...
    and rightly so.
  19. +1
    17 August 2019 08: 28
    Quote: Harry.km
    Does not depend! It's one thing to tip the waiter for what he served, so he served ... To thank the doctor for the fact that he was busy with you and listened to your nagging. But they wrote to you about the options when the doctor takes the money, only because he is a doctor. Unfortunately, I often have to turn to doctors. And I'm a little in the subject.

    Dear, you communicated not with doctors, but with "snatchers". Unfortunately, to date, walk-throughs have been made from medical institutes. Believe me, I have seen enough of the professors who (from the new formation) - frankly, did not see the patient. I am not a strategist like many here on the site. My opinion, as a simple layman: to cancel the "service" in medical institutions - to leave the "treatment", to allow work in private "medical sharags" only to those doctors who have received paid medical education (let the state employees compensate for the costs of the state, i.e. my taxes, and then move to any sharaga), prohibit the "provision of services" on medical equipment purchased at the expense of the budget, return the MANDATORY DISTRIBUTION. I will keep quiet about the educational process so as not to frighten the respectable public, otherwise (God forbid!) They will find out that they are expelled 3-5 times, reinstate, conditionally transfer from course to course, ... There is a lot to tell. The classic was right:
    About how many wonderful discoveries
    Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
    And Experience, [son] of difficult errors,
    And Genius, [paradoxes] friend,
    [And Case, god inventor]

    October - November 1829
  20. 0
    17 August 2019 11: 17
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Tomic3
    Putin voiced many proposals and even annually issues decrees for their implementation. A lot of fulfilled?

    Did you go to school or did it take your roof hormones off? Read what you wrote. The government must fulfill, not Putin.

    OK! Did the government comply? These decrees, previous decrees and before last decrees?
    Who will be responsible for the ineptly spent and criminally sawn budget?
  21. +1
    17 August 2019 11: 21
    Quote: Silvestr
    whose son "solves" the garbage problem

    The sonny already does not fit into a wide-format professional lens. Swollen with hunger, not otherwise!
    It would be nice if SMS-kami to chip in for treatment. The whole world, so to speak, the whole people))
  22. +1
    17 August 2019 11: 59
    the opposition is rotten through and through, but no one has canceled corruption. Seagull's son is a good example. Or Serdyukov and Vasiliev. Why won't they be imprisoned? They will never be imprisoned ...
  23. -2
    17 August 2019 15: 30
    um fbk and more than a billion, it’s kind of like investigating although personally oleshka, as always, didn’t keep money out of the fire, he was dragged by his gallant minions who, if that’s not a pity
  24. +1
    19 August 2019 04: 46
    The author is a member of the Young Guard of United Russia? otherwise, I couldn’t explain the article, I’ve mixed everything that I can, the State Department, Ukraine ... and how many minuses have you noticed? VO used to be politically unperturbed, but now new trends .... we must please the powerful .... This is my worthless opinion from the couch