Short memory. In the DNI decided to play dictatorship

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A split in society?


The clumsy conduct of a flash mob addressed to Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, and, moreover, the absolute unwillingness to at least apologize to the public for the committed swine, naturally led to a response. At first, in the center of Donetsk, local mass-entertainers tried to hold a rally, which, in fact, was dispersed by non-violent methods. Then, on 8 of August, a number of local residents led by a Russian tried to hold a constituent congress of the organization, which they called the "Pro-Russian public movement" The Popular Front of Donbass. The meeting ended with the arrival of masked people who accompanied the organizing committee for a heart-rending conversation, after which all participants in the event received written warnings and went home.





Lacking reliable information, it is rather difficult to judge the degree of danger of the failed social movement for the government of the DPR and the republic as a whole, however, I would like to emphasize the danger of the methods chosen by the local authorities. Forceful methods of suppressing dissent, firstly, are very, very similar to what is happening behind the line of demarcation, and secondly, they are fraught with rallying people who criticize the authorities into a full-fledged opposition with its subsequent marginalization and going underground. Violence always breeds only violence.

The most annoying thing would be that there would have been no problems if Pushilin had learned at least sometimes to acknowledge his mistakes and explain himself to the population, and not just to impose on him masterpieces from local "specialists." After all, you could apologize for the clumsy site for the flash mob, and for the orgy of the "Young Guard", and for the rest of the blunders. Instead, the authorities took a stand, saying that you are all fools, and we are doing everything right.

Censorship on the march


Caught in a flurry of criticism, representatives of the Donetsk “Ministry of Truth” and their controlled media and bloggers took a curious position: everyone who criticizes the actions of the authorities are enemies of the republic, Russia and personally President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin. Why? Yes, because everything that happens in the DPR happens, supposedly, with the knowledge of the Russian curators and almost "himself." So, the DNI authorities are infallible and holier than the Pope. How it was possible to get to such insanity and under the influence of any mental illnesses or psychotropic substances, it is difficult to say.

Donetsk clever men did not stop there. At the moment, the deputy of the People’s Council of the DPR Vladislav Brig is actively engaged in the preparation of a bill introducing responsibility for the distribution of “fakes”. And this, for a second, in a republic where the authorities act on 100% is not transparent, where absolutely all decisions, bills, indicators and numbers are hidden from the public, where today's headlines are contrary to yesterday’s and where the hell is still no many important laws , in connection with which it is necessary to use their Ukrainian counterparts.

Of course, even if Brig drags out his construct and another censorship tool appears in the DPR (is it worth saying that local media are censored to the last comma?), All this will only lead to the total departure of people who criticize the actions of the authorities on social networks.

The war of mice and frogs


In principle, this is already happening. There were few dozens of groups in the FB, VKontakte, and Odnoklassniki, so now the Donetsk feuds spilled over into Telegram. Over the past month and a half, dozens of groups devoted to current events in New Russia have appeared in the messenger. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of them are openly engaged - some support the authorities, some against.

It is not possible to figure out who (except for the “Ministry of Truth” of the DPR) allocated money for this disgrace, but the sight itself is extremely instructive. Not having time to be born, all these “resources” immediately entered into a sweaty battle with each other, just a few weeks later slipping down to the argument “a fool is a fool himself”, only from his mother.

What semantic load is this permanent squabble is impossible to understand. Probably, it all started with the desire of the DPR government to form its own pool in Telegram, to which the enemies of the Pushilin government from neighboring countries and other indifferents gladly responded. In any case, the result was ugly - instead of information battles, a continuous mutual demonstration of the opponents' dirty laundry.

Where are we going?


All this storm in a glass of water gradually begins to spill over the Internet and threatens, sooner or later, to become a serious problem that can split society in the republic. Moreover, the criticism and indignation of the dissatisfied are not so terrible as the attempts of the DPR government to explain to the local population who the boss is here.

Given the significant number of other, well-founded reasons for discontent, creating additional ones is at least silly. Nevertheless, either with the knowledge of the head of the republic, or without it, but local officials have embarked on the final destruction of civil liberties. They probably forgot that the rebellion in the Donbass in many respects began precisely with Kiev’s attempts to impose its will on the local population ...
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  1. +17
    15 August 2019 15: 19
    Mdaa ... there is no move to Ukraine, they don’t take to Russia, local authorities don’t understand what they are doing ... Maybe behind this muddy, there is a hidden redistribution of property between the Ukrainian and our oligarchs? How will they share who has left something, and then they will decide what to do with Donbass .. It seems that the audit was started not in vain, the author wrote about it in a previous article ...
    1. +1
      16 August 2019 07: 02
      Already passed, some of the plants are already Russian. Quietly the owners have changed. Lugansk air repair already the administration of the Kamov Concern is working.
      1. 0
        16 August 2019 07: 47
        Quote: Glenni
        Already passed, some of the plants are already Russian. Quietly the owners have changed. Lugansk air repair already the administration of the Kamov Concern is working.

        Well if so, stability will be work.
      2. +2
        16 August 2019 12: 27
        These are all miserable crumbs, on the scale of the entire population of the republics. It is naive to believe that this somehow affects the economy
  2. -13
    15 August 2019 15: 21
    A more free society always wins a less totalitarian one. Moreover, a totalitarian society can win the war, but it is not capable of winning historical rivalry.
    Russia's only chance to win historical competition with the West is to become a freer society than they, with a freer economy.
    Our authorities cannot know these basics. So they deliberately lead Russia to collapse. Their intention here is also clear - as long as possible to steer and steal by ourselves, even if the cost of this will be the lag and collapse of Russia. In a free, open society, Putin and the bucket have no chance of staying in power.
    1. +2
      15 August 2019 15: 37
      Can I explain this opus? (minus mine. no offense)
    2. +11
      15 August 2019 15: 43
      kjhg (Gargantua) Today, 15: 21 NEW

      More free. "
      Free?
      Freedom and the existence of the state? Do you think things are compatible? The state is necessary for this. In order to restrict certain freedoms by laws. in the name of the existence of society itself, a. not an individual individual. (read the Constitution of the Russian Federation - rights and DUTIES)
      Totalitarian? Russia .. don’t tell my ... tomatoes ..... In a totalitarian state this site would not exist for a long time, and we all went along the stage. ... and on the adjacent plot, fellows fell from the Echo of Moscow and various from the liberal party ... laughing
      Yes. about the combination "Freer" - here, probably, either free or pregnant. but not half pregnant wink
      1. -5
        15 August 2019 15: 58
        You do not need here, but to the anarchists. They have a different site.
      2. +4
        15 August 2019 17: 10
        That's right, why do you need freedom, it is better right along the way to the DPRK. As for sites and other things, it’s like chatting in the kitchen, but want to defend your rights somewhere at a rally you will be quickly packed.
        1. -6
          15 August 2019 17: 22
          Teacher67 Today, 17:10

          That's right, why do you need freedom .. "

          Freedom from what?
          For example .. one of the "freedoms" imposed on society ..
          Freedom to show your non-standard sexual orientation? And in every possible way to impose it on society.
          So these are the enemies of society. since the main function of wildlife. including primates and as their subtype of Homo sapiens. is the reproduction of their own kind. and thereby contribute to the conservation and development of the species .. And they are without reproduction .. idling ... laughing

          Do you need it - such freedom ??

          Do not confuse freedom and permissiveness. They played on it when the Soviet Union fell.

          "While we are burning with freedom,
          While hearts for honor are alive,
          My friend, dedicate to the fatherland
          Souls are beautiful impulses! "
          (And S Pushkin TO CHAADAEV)
          1. -3
            16 August 2019 13: 16
            .. cons probably non-standard orientation ... laughing
        2. -6
          15 August 2019 20: 33
          Quote: Teacher67
          That's right, why do you need freedom, it is better right along the way to the DPRK. As for sites and other things, it’s like chatting in the kitchen, but want to defend your rights somewhere at a rally you will be quickly packed.

          I would like on the way to the DPRK wassat
          But many are against wassat
          And I would like without bloodshed. There, somewhere they go their own way. Well, let them go.
          What do you think of democracy. Isn't anarchy wassat ?
          Who will draw the line. Could the west point the way? wassat
        3. -1
          16 August 2019 13: 53
          Quote: Teacher67
          That's right, why do you need freedom, it is better right along the way to the DPRK. As for sites and other things, it's like chatting in the kitchen, and want to defend your rights somewhere at the rally they will pack you quickly.

          Rights are asserted in court and nowhere else. Fables about rallies are a fairy tale for pimply teenagers. If you give an example of a successful "defense of rights" at rallies in the "Free World" ®, I will be extremely grateful to you.
    3. +8
      15 August 2019 16: 05
      Quote: kjhg
      Russia's only chance to win historical competition with the West is to become a freer society than they, with a freer economy.

      Oooh ... what are the familiar mantras - "only a free society can build a prosperous economy". An excellent carrot, originally from the 80s, with the help of which developed countries are fighting against possible competitors. For the historical experience of the same"developed democracies"At first, in rather harsh conditions, the economy was created, and then they began to release the nuts of all kinds of freedoms.
      Suffice it to recall Japan and South Korea. Especially the South Caucasus, which created its economy in the conditions of military dictatorship and totalitarianism. Bloody clique of Ro Dae Woo and Jung Doo Hwang was not a propaganda cliche at all, but a reality: these dictators were not afraid of blood, and they forced all deviations from the general line by force. For all these political turbulences impeded the fulfillment of the plan for building the economy of the South Caucasus - and in the first place they had precisely the economy, one could only think about political freedoms having a solid economic basis.
      And then there is the same "free Singapore" ... smile
      And if you remember that the same USA "went to success", when right in the capital, the WWII veterans who came to get their money were poisoned with adamsite and rolled out their town with tanks, and workers rallies were dispersed with the help of tommy guns.
      1. +5
        16 August 2019 04: 47
        Dear Alexey RA

        And why do not you give an example of Norway, Sweden, Switzerland?
        1. 0
          16 August 2019 12: 31
          Probably because it’s not an indicator
    4. 0
      15 August 2019 22: 32
      The only chance for Russia to win historical competition with the West is to become a freer society than they are, with a freer economy - it’s shorter to become like Ukraine and that’s all ... victory for example doesn’t have to go far!
    5. -2
      16 August 2019 00: 22
      Is western society free?
      It is strange, surprisingly, that in the modern world there are people who seriously think so.
      The Western system is absolutely totalitarian and represents a system of interaction between political groups of the elite, covered by a pseudo-democratic procedure and a bureaucratic organization
    6. +2
      16 August 2019 12: 57
      A freer society always wins a less totalitarian

      Found where to campaign for freedom laughing here freedom is a team at ease when possible
      weaken the right or left leg in the knee, but do not move, do not weaken attention and do not talk
      1. 0
        16 August 2019 13: 55
        Quote: Civil
        A freer society always wins a less totalitarian

        Found where to campaign for freedom laughing here freedom is a team at ease when possible
        weaken the right or left leg in the knee, but do not move, do not weaken attention and do not talk

        Personal experience? belay But it’s bad to be you. laughing
      2. srn
        0
        21 August 2019 10: 21
        or: "why aren't you marching in formation if you are so smart?"
  3. +8
    15 August 2019 15: 45
    It’s not possible to figure out who (apart from the “Ministry of Truth” of the DPR) allocated money for this disgrace,
    therefore, there is money for any garbage, but a wounded militia is forced to fight for an operation, and not only he alone. For someone misses the Ukrainian drg
  4. +3
    15 August 2019 15: 51
    . Powerful methods to suppress dissent

    Or covered by the word "Russia" Maidanists? It is still necessary to see who is the organizer and what they wanted to achieve. And you need to ask those who live there. And then we also have "Russian marches" you understand
  5. +13
    15 August 2019 16: 16
    It is clear that discrediting the "Russian Spring" is needed not by Kiev, but by those for whom it is only a "headache."
    For the controlled collapse of the republic, Pushilin is simply an ideal figure. So the "curators" bless him for chaos. Otherwise, the field commanders would have ripped off his head long ago.
    1. +13
      15 August 2019 17: 12
      That's for that field commanders and eliminated.
    2. +3
      15 August 2019 17: 38
      samarin1969 (Konstantin Viktorovich Samarin) Today, 16:16
      There is a WAR! And there are a lot of interests of global sharks and local predators at one point ..
    3. -3
      15 August 2019 20: 45
      Quote: samarin1969
      It is clear that discrediting the "Russian Spring" is needed not by Kiev, but by those for whom it is only a "headache."
      For the controlled collapse of the republic, Pushilin is simply an ideal figure. So the "curators" bless him for chaos. Otherwise, the field commanders would have ripped off his head long ago.

      And why not Kiev? Why controlled collapse? Who is the curator? Russia - the controlled collapse of LDNR - I do not believe it. I believe - a provocation. I want to hear the opinion of the inhabitants of LDNR. Please be objective. Who called, why did they call, what slogans shouted, what solutions did they propose, what problems were identified?
  6. -8
    15 August 2019 19: 47
    Forceful methods of suppressing dissent, firstly, are very, very reminiscent of what is happening behind the line of demarcation, and secondly, they are fraught with rallying people who criticize the authorities into a full-fledged opposition with its subsequent marginalization and underground. Violence always breeds only violence.

    Here it is the main point of the article !!!! They began to write articles slyly, and you can't immediately understand "Who, for what, and why .."
    Be careful guys reading this, a lot of chameleons divorced .. But the essence of them is one destruction and blood hi
    1. 0
      15 August 2019 20: 52
      Be prepared not to be held in high esteem. In honor those now who demand bread and circuses hi
  7. +8
    15 August 2019 20: 34
    On the events in the Donbass, you can write a book about betrayal. There are more than enough candidates for the role of Judah.
    1. -5
      15 August 2019 20: 56
      No irony. Enlighten. For me, the whole Donbass is now a hero and a role model
      1. -3
        15 August 2019 20: 57
        I apologize not from now on, but since 2014
      2. +9
        15 August 2019 21: 09
        Heroes in the trenches. And there are more than a lot of questions to the headquarters and especially to the curators.
        1. 0
          15 August 2019 21: 38
          Well, under the curators of LDNR the stump of the Russian Federation is understood. What the hell are there any marches then? Who initiated? If we need them, then why are we overclocked? If you do not need then who collected them? I suggest waiting for the opinion of the inhabitants of Donbas. And do not forget to double-check any important data. There is an information war. I am on the side of Russia and the authorities
  8. +4
    15 August 2019 20: 56
    Sad But when they left VNA, there probably were hopes for something good. But the change of power after the explosion in a cafe and ...
    1. -1
      15 August 2019 20: 59
      And ... It's not over. These are young republics. They will go their own way. And we hope I help
      1. +5
        15 August 2019 21: 03
        If only this path was in the right direction. And in what has been going on recently in the DPR, there is somehow not very much positive. Well, God forbid, everything will grow together.
        1. 0
          15 August 2019 21: 14
          So it is not clear what is happening with them. Who arranged this march there? Kremlin? Hardly. Not the Kremlin - bad again. If the Kremlin, then why was it dispersed? If not the Kremlin, then who? A stone was thrown into the Russian vegetable garden. We need to think about who benefits from it. "The shortest path, is truly true"
          1. +5
            15 August 2019 21: 28
            Quote: igorbrsv
            You need to think to whom it is beneficial.

            What is there to think? Defamation of local authorities is beneficial for Kiev; see how everything is so bad. The split of the population into pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian parts and the blocking of any movements towards Russia. The split is already there and the task of Kiev is to deepen it. With a ratio of 50:50, LDNR will quietly begin to drift towards Ukraine. Of the more than 2 million people, 60 thousand applied for a Russian passport.
            Whose order is it? -There are options.
            1. +2
              16 August 2019 07: 40
              MS DNR "red tape". Many have not yet received a DNR passport. I personally signed documents for obtaining citizenship 3 times (mistakes made by the DPR MS). Thank God the torment is over. Some cannot pay 6800 rubles. duties. Some are waiting for age (25, 45). Sometimes the Decrees of the President of the Russian Federation are read in different ways. There are many reasons. It's not about the lack of desire to obtain citizenship.
  9. +12
    15 August 2019 21: 03
    The fact that already the fifth year has been happening in the Donbass, indicates that ordinary people do not need anyone. In Ukraine, they are now strangers. Of those who moved to its territory, only those who had connections and money were normally settled. Everything as usual. The rest survive as they can. There are no prospects on the territory of the DPR and LPR either: no work, no normal salary, no decent pensions. And the war does not see the end. At first, people were supported by the hope that the Donbass would be part of Russia, but now this hope is not from the word at all. Occasional PR actions in the form of humanitarian convoys and a simplified system for obtaining citizenship do not affect anything and do not add optimism. What the DPR authorities are doing is discrediting the very idea of ​​creating popular republics. And do not tell tales here about the cunning plan of GDP. If the Kremlin allowed such personalities as Pushilin to rule and gave them complete freedom of action, this once again indicates the lack of a strategy and political will regarding Donbass. As a result, for all the mistakes and miscalculations of politicians, people continue to pay with their lives.
    1. -8
      15 August 2019 21: 29
      You are right in many ways. But why did the Kremlin allow ...? He also did not allow genocide of the population. Why is the Kremlin to blame? There is some freedom of action. The Kremlin will support any of them.
    2. +1
      16 August 2019 16: 07
      As far as I remember, the name of Pushilin was at the hearing from the very beginning of the events. That is, they talked about him, referred to his words when no one knew anything about Zakharchenko.
    3. 0
      19 August 2019 21: 30
      . The fact that the fifth year has been happening in the Donbass, indicates that ordinary people do not need anyone.

      I don’t know how the rest. And I would be glad to welcome you as part of the Russian Federation.
      But unfortunately nothing depends on me. I can only promise feasible help if you are planning to join us. request
  10. -2
    15 August 2019 21: 16
    Quote: kjhg
    A more free society always wins a less totalitarian one. Moreover, a totalitarian society can win the war, but it is not capable of winning historical rivalry.
    Russia's only chance to win historical competition with the West is to become a freer society than they, with a freer economy.
    Our authorities cannot know these basics. So they deliberately lead Russia to collapse. Their intention here is also clear - as long as possible to steer and steal by ourselves, even if the cost of this will be the lag and collapse of Russia. In a free, open society, Putin and the bucket have no chance of staying in power.


    Ahahahahahaha!
    Civilization in general is about restricting personal freedoms in favor of public interests.
    Truth - it is totalitarian, twice two is always totalitarian four, and this result does not depend on the outcome of the vote.
    T.N. "free democratic society" is possible only as a result of centuries-old robbery of 3/4 of the rest of the world, as soon as it becomes impossible to rob colonies - the end of "democracy" comes, and, for example, in the states, almost half of the population simply cannot afford a vacation at all
  11. -3
    15 August 2019 22: 55
    Quote: Vadim T.
    The fact that already the fifth year has been happening in the Donbass, indicates that ordinary people do not need anyone. In Ukraine, they are now strangers. Of those who moved to its territory, only those who had connections and money were normally settled. Everything as usual. The rest survive as they can. There are no prospects on the territory of the DPR and LPR either: no work, no normal salary, no decent pensions. And the war does not see the end. At first, people were supported by the hope that the Donbass would be part of Russia, but now this hope is not from the word at all. Occasional PR actions in the form of humanitarian convoys and a simplified system for obtaining citizenship do not affect anything and do not add optimism. What the DPR authorities are doing is discrediting the very idea of ​​creating popular republics. And do not tell tales here about the cunning plan of GDP. If the Kremlin allowed such personalities as Pushilin to rule and gave them complete freedom of action, this once again indicates the lack of a strategy and political will regarding Donbass. As a result, for all the mistakes and miscalculations of politicians, people continue to pay with their lives.

    Here, for what I’m koha mov, it’s for what immediately gives the place of education of the author :-)
  12. 0
    16 August 2019 08: 34
    Any form of government is nothing without internal content. In a critical situation of the DPR, the internal content can only be the building of the Russian national state as opposed to the Bandera district of Kiev and the cosmopolitanism of the Kremlin. But nationalism is only a sword with which the ruler protects the interests of his people from external aggression and internal gesheftmakher.
    .
    The Kiev authorities make excellent use of nationalism to protect their people. Unfortunately, these people are not Ukrainians, not Galicians, and not Russians.
  13. +1
    16 August 2019 14: 35
    How many more people must die and it will take years for us to hear: "It was all in vain?" The project will collapse under the weight of unresolved contradictions embedded in the foundation of new formations. Power was seized by the wrong class that won it. The result is obvious and logical ... the miracle did not happen.
  14. 0
    16 August 2019 19: 30
    Purgin is not enough.
  15. -1
    16 August 2019 19: 41
    Title:
    Short memory. In the DNI decided to play dictatorship

    And now a question for the author: but, what was once democracy and freedom of opinion in LDNR?
  16. +1
    16 August 2019 23: 46
    Quote: Normal ok
    Title:
    Short memory. In the DNI decided to play dictatorship

    And now a question for the author: but, what was once democracy and freedom of opinion in LDNR?


    Do we have time to play democracy? Outside my window, 5 km. "impose". And the author's statement “Then, on August 8, a number of local residents, led by a Russian, tried to hold a constituent congress of an organization that they called“ Pro-Russian public movement “National Front of Donbass”, ”I don’t care.” It is as "pro-Russian" as I am "pro-Japanese." Who is this "row of local residents"? Suspended from the "trough" deputy. Minister of the DPR? They promised a ballet about swans, but showed a dozen 3 "... dey"? I have seen enough of these "Russians" since 2014. I respect Russians, I respect and will respect, I am Russian. I respect people of other nationalities as well. I respect the citizens of Russia. We are glad to see friends, but it is better for the "Russians" to go (go) together with the author not to the DPR, but to the "Odessa Privoz to Mom" ​​of the legendary "Beni". From this publication, such a stench. And the fact that the audit is carried out, so everything is only "FOR".
  17. -1
    19 August 2019 14: 45
    Pushilin dictator? In Ukraine, he was recently called Carlson. I’ve grown fat lately. In the DNI, it is called ,, denisk-fluff ,,,,, chepushilin ,,,, emameshchik ,,. By Soviet standards, this is ,, the secretary of the Komsomol city committee, for example, Makeevka. Typical ,, functionary ,,. Well, not Franco. And Pinochet also does not pull. On the first, Direct Line, he dragged all the ministers into the studio and redirected the questions of DPR citizens to them. Makhov E. is wondering again. He came up with a problem for New Russia and successfully solved it in his article. Zakharchenko was a full-fledged leader, but even with him no one thought excessively, “tighten the screws”. But there is an ordinary positional war. Every day and every other day, two hundredth and three hundredth among the infantry ... What are the relations between the state and the opposition? ,, What is he whispering about? ,, - as they say in Donetsk. There is also no full-fledged state. Moreover, this “warring territory” will not pull any kind of “opposition” (Makhov’s thought up
    1. 0
      22 August 2019 13: 28
      Quote: evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
      Pushilin dictator?

      Oooh .... "Lipstick, proactive-th-th ..."
  18. 0
    22 August 2019 13: 27
    The oligarchic "state system" of the elder "brother" is being copied.
    Its "principles and norms", where only those close to it are right, and the people - "and the homeless."

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