NATO accused Su-27 of "unsafe maneuver" in relation to the F-18 alliance

The Russian Su-27 fighter on Tuesday made an unsafe maneuver with respect to the F-18 alliance aircraft, which over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea approached the Russian Tu-214 with the aim of identifying it. This was stated by the representative of NATO, commenting on the incident with the plane of the Minister of Defense Shoigu, writes CNN.

According to the NATO representative, Russian Su-27 fighters escorting the Tu-214 aircraft flew with the carriers turned off and did not respond to requests from air traffic controllers. In order to identify them, two F-18 Spanish Air Force fighters were lifted from the Lithuanian Šiauliai airbase, which attempted identification.

The Tu-214 aircraft had a valid flight plan, identified itself and responded to the air traffic control service, Two Su-27 escort aircraft flew without a flight plan, their transponders were turned off, and they did not talk to air traffic controllers

- stressed the representative of NATO.

Further, according to the representative of the alliance, NATO aircraft evaluated the intentions of Russian fighters and were going to take the way to the air base, but the Russian Su-27 fighter made an unsafe maneuver, during which it almost crossed the course of one of the F-18, but Alliance pilot's high training helped prevent potential disaster.

Two F-18 fighters turned left to move away from the plane they intercepted. Shortly before, one of the Russian Su-27 fighters also turned to the left and almost crossed the course of one of the F-18 in an unsafe manner. Thanks to the quick and professional reaction of the pilot of one of the F-18, a potentially dangerous situation for both aircraft was avoided

- he said.

Earlier it was reported that on Tuesday the NATO aircraft F-18 tried to approach the Russian plane of the Minister of Defense Sergey Shoigu, flying over the neutral waters of the Baltic Sea, but was pushed back by the Su-27 escort fighter.

Comments

[Nycomed]

But wasn’t Stoltenberg sitting by the handle in the F-18? Where is this boiling from?

[VO3A]

All lies ... The Tu-214 flew by itself and no one accompanied it ... It flew with all systems and transponder turned on ... along an agreed route ... These deficiencies from NATO on F18 decided to show power and arrogance towards the Russian the plane ... the Su-27s took off on command, maybe they met and set their brains, so much so that the enemies crap and raised hi ... On the video you can hear that Shoigu was surprised by the appearance of our planes, and before that the arrogance of the Geyropeytsy from NATO, who stuck to our Tu-214 ...

[figwam]

By the way, on the video, accompanied by the Su-27 and Su-35.

[Aerodrome]

NATO accused Su-27 of "unsafe maneuver" in relation to the F-18 alliance

and our "sofa", tempted that the pilot of the SU had chosen the wrong altitude, the wrong speed, the wrong echelon ... but the pilot is cool, he did everything right. just buttons for idiots are available now ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Aerodrome

but our "couch", tempted that the pilot of the SU had chosen the wrong altitude, the wrong speed, the wrong echelon ..

Yes, and missed.
All day trying to prove that everything was done in the upper class, useless

[RideMaster]

Do you really think that one day they will say something else? They said standardly as always. Standard run over.
Ours because of the weak economy of ssat also sharply blame everyone.

[Kolbi]

Quote: Nycomed

But wasn’t Stoltenberg sitting by the handle in the F-18? Where is this boiling from?

In their opinion, our fighters should fly for their system and wave their hand with joy .. You need to shoot down Zhirinovsky’s rights, once and immediately this will not happen .. Everything is legal.
This incident humiliated Russia and especially the Minister of Defense Shoigu .. Is that again a PR?
Ours at least once tried to get close to the US Boeing with at least someone ..?
Even at distant approaches, they had to shoot warning ... damn it, they found something to be proud of ... Already in all the news and a hundred times .. Shameful and Shoigu goof (I respected him, but now he ..)

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Kolbi

This incident humiliated Russia and especially the Minister of Defense Shoigu .. Is that again a PR?
Ours at least once tried to get close to the US Boeing with at least someone ..?

I propose to track all the prominent figures of NATO and US officials and accompany them with our aircraft. Point

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Misha Honest

I propose to track all prominent figures of NATO and US officials and accompany them with our aircraft. Point

And why do you think that they fly near our borders?

[Misha Honest]

Quote: Lipchanin

And why do you think that they fly near our borders?

Well, all sorts of reptiles fly to Finland, Sweden, the Baltic states and other outskirts ...
+ don’t tell me that you cannot hang air-to-air missiles on a Tu-160 or Tu-95 ...

[not main]

Quote: Misha Honest

Quote: Lipchanin

And why do you think that they fly near our borders?

Well, all sorts of reptiles fly to Finland, Sweden, the Baltic states and other outskirts ...
+ don’t tell me that you cannot hang air-to-air missiles on a Tu-160 or Tu-95 ...

My minus! Tip: never discuss topics where you know nothing!

[Misha Honest]

Quote: non-primary

Quote: Misha Honest

Quote: Lipchanin

And why do you think that they fly near our borders?

Well, all sorts of reptiles fly to Finland, Sweden, the Baltic states and other outskirts ...
+ don’t tell me that you cannot hang air-to-air missiles on a Tu-160 or Tu-95 ...

My minus! Tip: never discuss topics where you know nothing!

So I'm not a flyer - although when I dreamed of becoming ...)

[VO3A]

Ours not only approached the scouts, but also poured fuel on them near our borders ... We have very few planes, we can’t get out and even nightmare their planes with the transponder turned on there ... But we need ... We have fighters less and less, and even ashamed to compare with the USSR, even considering the proportions ...

[Evil echo]

I see you in a pleasant way.

[VO3A]

Hurray, our planes are running out !!! Out of 800 fighter jets, more than 500 junk with outdated, incomplete, ununified equipment of the Soviet era with incomprehensible modifications (all Su-27s, and MIG-29s, the last with a ridiculous radius for SHOWs), it’s also not clear how long they can fly ... You so wanted?

[VO3A]

Few? Tu -160 is listed 16, most are waiting for improvements, equipment in the trash .... 30 in the ranks of Tu-95M and 40 falling apart Tu-22M3 ... Now you understand? 200 Su-34s and Su-24Ms, along with reconnaissance and others, the Su-24Ms will not last longer than 10 years at best .... But the Su-34s stopped working! With the past Air Force Day ....

[Evil echo]

And can you write something good, so, for testing? Not everything is smooth, who would argue. But there is still someone to fly and on what else, otherwise the flyers from NATA would fly over my house, and not ours, with red stars.

[VO3A]

We have a cool Su-34 plane, it is necessary to produce even before the modernization new Su-34Ms, 300 pieces, and preferably 500 ... it will be a basic bomber for another 50 years .... It will save us .... And more Su - 30m1 and Su -35 at least 30 per year .....

[Evil echo]

Current for. And you also need 10 strategists a year, well, where can I get all that money?

[VO3A]

There will be no strategists ... The corps from the USSR are over ... And nobody needs these Tu-160s, we just stay without pants ....

[Tusv]

Quote: VO3A

Out of 800 fighter jets, more than 500 junk with outdated, understaffed, ununified equipment from the times of the USSR

Well vashcheto trash written off, and not screwed to some weapons up to 400 km.
And about unify. Is it necessary? There is a clear line of Dryers for air supremacy. The bourgeoisie calls it Flanker (if you think that the Su-27 is outdated, then the American counterpart, the F-15, is hopeless). There are front-line, there are special forces - Mig 31, for which the most long-range means of destruction and, alas, for "slow-moving" 2,5M, you just can't unify

[Tusv]

Quote: VO3A

but also poured fuel on them near our borders.

.
Well, in Soviet times, they poured fuel into the SU-27 for 4 hours of patrolling and flew for 4 hours, as expected. One must think that taking off "on a dumb interception" is unpredictable - until you drive away the intruder. Half an hour? Hour? Not known. A safe landing requires a minimum of fuel.
And to whom to pour excess fuel? Obviously not to Our fields, but to the troublemaker of the air defense service For nefig

[Nycomed]

And what is it, interesting to know, that humiliated Shoigu and, especially, Russia? The fact that they drove them F-18? On the contrary, it should be proud of our pilots. They would humiliate if this happened in our airspace. And so, put in place of the presumptuous watchdog. Quietly, peacefully, he understood and dumped everything. A sucker, dear - it's you.

[Tusv]

Quote: Nycomed

And what is it, interesting to know, that humiliated Shoigu and, especially, Russia? The fact that they drove them F-18? On the contrary, it should be proud of our pilots.

Oh uhosh. They do not allow a normal air defense worker to fill up the bourgeois, for the sake of pro forma, and for Wikipedia. Not at least once falcons covered their eyes. Fig Nam - Tomato

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Kolbi

This incident humiliated Russia and especially Minister of Defense Shoigu.

Yes, I do not want to
This video was posted on Jun 21. 2017 year

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Kolbi

Ours at least once tried to get close to the US Boeing with at least someone ..?

Has he ever flown near our borders?

[Borodach]

So we are talking about how to accompany and "identify" aircraft with representatives of their executive and legislative branches in the Gulf of Mexico!

[Aerodrome]

you were blown away by Vitalik ...

[helmi8]

Quote: Kolbi

You need to shoot down, once and immediately this will not happen .. Everything is legal.

Shoot down over neutral waters? Is it legal? Well, well ... Maybe you think before you write this? ..

[Tusv]

Quote: Kolbi

Zhirinovsky is right to shoot down, once and immediately this will not happen .. Everything is legal.

So even without Wolfich options for intimidating dofig.

Quote: VO3A

Su-27s took off on command, maybe they met and set their brains

Not. Sushki just peacefully accompanied Kuzhegetovich. Here the bourgeoisie must keep a distance, otherwise Our flyers "cheat" in an adult way, that is, they clearly carry out the assigned combat mission.

These imperfections from NATO at F18 decided to show power and arrogance in relation to the Russian aircraft

The bourgeoisie would have been silent in joy that the special forces had not raised their air defense. 31 Megs have overwhelming means of destruction

[RideMaster]

There will never be such a thing, surround yourself. So you can run into an embargo on many positions. Therefore, it is more correct to keep silent with our economy. You can’t economically fight against all of them.
We now need to take the position of China and watch how the United States and China are chopped.

[freddyk]

Quote: RideMaster

There will never be such a thing, surround yourself. So you can run into an embargo on many positions. Therefore, it is more correct to keep silent with our economy. You can’t economically fight against all of them ...

Zbigniew Brzezinski spoke very clearly about this: "... since 500 billion dollars of the Russian elite are in our banks, you still have to figure it out: is it your elite or already ours? ...." So the economy is in the background :-)

[sogdy]

Quote: freddyk

Zbigniew Brzezinski spoke very clearly about this

Fool, find it in the official publications, then swing it, since you can’t do anything else. Only Brzezinski never wrote anything like this anywhere and never spoke in an interview. Tse notion of our domestic oppa.

[freddyk]

What official edition do you need? Great Soviet Encyclopedia? Wikipedia, that's enough. And it makes no difference to me who said it, the main thing to the point.

[sogdy]

Quote: freddyk

What official edition do you need?

Brzezinski's works have been published many times. They always have output and page numbers. The Internet also has an address. Newspaper interviews usually refer to the number and date of the newspaper.
And yes, your example is not from Wiki, this is a joke from anekdotov.net
About "to the point" - this is Navalny's opinion from Khodor. The information has been fundamentally incorrect since 2003. For finding money abroad deprives the chela of too many goodies, including the increase in the tax in the Russian Federation up to 50% and the deprivation of the opportunity to be elected.

[whack]

I completely agree.

[To be or not to be]

If you raised a deuce to identify an airplane that was in flight plans, then: either 1. weak and x the radio-technical ground service. which could not recognize the Shoigu plane or 2. deliberate provocation against the Russian Federation and its senior official. which is more likely

[Ravil_Asnafovich]

Well, if your pants are wet, then why shout about it all over the world, they will laugh.

[Rwmos]

That hate! (C)

[Kolbi]

Quote: Ravil_Asnafovich

Well, if your pants are wet, then why shout about it all over the world, they will laugh.

In the course of Shoigu, he got wet there .. He had to give an order to attack, still on the approach .. And when the NATO pilots showed him the middle finger (he clearly looked into the window)
Well then ... It's a shame and now it shows how heroism .. ugh damn

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Kolbi

.He had to give an order to attack, still on the approach

On what basis? Have they invaded our airspace?

[sogdy]

Shoigu had an _official_ flight plan. Which means that along the entire length of the route, its safety is ensured by the countries closest to the location of the aircraft (well, this is rude, there safety is laid out in the plan itself). At the next "junction" (change of the person responsible for security) a provocateur emerged under the guise of an escort. When the provocateur began to behave inadequately and could not confirm his functions according to the plan of this flight, our planes were sent to protect the first person.
By the way, where did the Spanish pilots come from in the Baltic region again? After all, they seemed to be put up after the loss of a rocket?

[Magic archer]

Say thank you for not Zhirinovsky in power))) he would have shot down at all!

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Magic Archer

Say thank you for not Zhirinovsky in power))) he would have shot down at all!

it can’t be ... politics .. (I would bring down)

[VO3A]

They don’t shoot down for arrogance, they didn’t violate anything in fact .... We need to determine the range, have on board certified means of control and fixation to show approach or intersection .... On our Tu-214 this is not ....

[Charik]

you collected this car chtol, there is everything that the Minister of Defense needs

[sogdy]

Quote: VO3A

It is necessary to determine the range, to have on board certified means of control and fixation, certified in accordance with international rules, to show the approach or intersection of the course .... On our Tu-214 there is none of this ....

Boy, you’re chasing something nipadetsky.
The special board does not light up. The official flight plan does not allow any extraneous souls into the passage zone, especially the Spanish Fu-18 outside their area of ​​responsibility. ANY official flight plan! Even for a hang glider.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Magic Archer

Say thank you not for Zhirinovsky in power))) he would have shot down

During the discussion on the air of the “60 minutes” program, Vladimir Zhirinovsky presented his view on the NATO fighter’s attempt to fly up to the plane, on board of which was Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Sergey Shoigu

https://topwar.ru/161242-lider-ldpr-predlozhil-sbivat-samolety-ugrozhajuschie-rossijskim-bortam.html

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Magic Archer

Say thank you for not Zhirinovsky in power))) he would have shot down at all!

What do you insert and do without this Zhirinovsky’s case? He would have knocked down ... He’s knocked down a pear for thirty years somewhere and even a raven from a train compartment ... Let him answer for voting on impeachment of EBN, and after he fusses with his suggestions ...
Ours did everything right. And Shoigu’s tantrums are not heard in the video. Is that a surprise.
He put the pros for adequate statements ...

[Scipio African]

It's time to make a few vultures, our Falcons - plucked crows

[A good one]

Quote: Scipio African

It's time to make a few vultures, our Falcons - plucked crows

Why not. I will support! And those who have a different orientation, may feathers to their favorite places or to choose from.

[210ox]

And what a lada to fly up. It can be seen that a civilian with huge letters "Russia" is walking along. For several miles we looked, bowed ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: 210ox

And what a lada to fly up. It can be seen that a civilian with huge letters "Russia" is walking along. For several miles we looked, bowed ...

neutral zone ....

[sogdy]

Quote: Aerodrome

neutral zone ....

The presence of a flight plan excludes any foreign body in the overflight zone - regardless of "neutrality", because the person responsible for the safety of the flight in this square is responsible for compliance with the plan. And there is no "neutrality" here. From the word ALL.

[tihonmarine]

With "high training" and not distinguish between a civilian plane and a military one? And the F-18 approached the TU-214 with the transporter on, this is just nonsense. So it is dangerous for all aircraft to fly over the Baltic.

[Old Michael]

The Tu-214 aircraft had a valid flight plan, identified itself and responded to the air traffic control service, the NATO representative emphasized.
Two F-18 fighters turned left to move away from the plane they intercepted for interception.

Why intercept such a plane over neutral waters?

[sabakina]

Quote: OldMichael

Why intercept such a plane over neutral waters?

So scary. Before going to bed, they are sure to look for partisans under the bed. But in general, the Spaniard turned out to be arrogant, withdrew in two steps. When you read their accusation, it feels like they are raving ...

[Ezekiel 25-17]

Vladimir Volfovich is right as always ...

[Rwmos]

Correctly Zhirik said - you need to shoot them down safely

[Ros 56]

Let them say thanks for flying away safe and sound. It’s time to do as they talk about us, to take for the bacon and face on the table. And we look at the reaction, it’s not enough to add, the benefit is what.

[svp67]

Well, on the part of NATO, this is certainly arrogance. They understood perfectly well that the "board" was not simple, why did they go to the trouble? And now they also complain, Spanish seniors, and you are also sneaks ...

[Nikolay87]

It was necessary to direct a rocket.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

It was necessary to direct a rocket

Yeah ... Manual?

[Nikolay87]

Quote: Lipchanin

Yeah ... Manual?

what are we talking about? enlighten please ....

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

what are we talking about? enlighten please ....

About missile guidance

[Nikolay87]

Quote: Lipchanin

About missile guidance

Well, so am I, too. Aim the rocket at the enemy’s plane so that the indication of the missile’s aiming at it will work and it will take off. Manual or automatic, what's the difference ?!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

Aim the rocket at the enemy’s plane so that the indication of the missile’s aiming at it will work and it will take off.

1. Have you seen the distance? What rocket? Enough guns
2. Without any indication, he showed that he had rockets. Clever enough
3. But didn’t he leave?

[Nikolay87]

1) you can take off speed and go into the tail. The NATO plane has a gun, like wings or a tail.
2) Well, thank God that he flies charged, accompanying some of the first persons, I hope the "smart" took this into account since they did not fly so close .... wait, they did the opposite. The question is: are they that much "smart" or are we not formidable enough?
3) he flew off and rose higher and nothing prevented him from calling from the other side or flying up and standing in front of the main aircraft.
So what was that? Calculation of their military competence? It is not surprising that later in Syria, planes are shot down with such calculations.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

1) you can take off speed and go into the tail. The NATO plane has a gun, like wings or a tail.

Su was already behind F. So on the gun

2) Well, thank God that he flies charged, accompanying some of the first persons, I hope the "smart" took this into account since they did not fly so close .... wait, they did the opposite. The question is: are they that much "smart" or are we not formidable enough?

While he was at a safe distance, he was not touched. As soon as he approached a distance that our pilot considered unsafe, he drove him away.

3) he flew off and rose higher and nothing prevented him from calling from the other side or flying up and standing in front of the main aircraft.

You do not rave?
Firstly, Our plane was lower and saw it visually. He couldn’t see him at all.
Secondly. What other side? Was our soo alone? It seems like they go for escort in pairs.
Tired of chewing everything.
Do you really think that they didn’t take him on the sights just when he appeared in the affected area?
Above, I already posted the video with the situation that happened with the same side, with the same passenger 2 years ago.
I'll post it again
Pay attention to the date and compare

[Nikolay87]

Su was already behind F. So it was on the gun while he was at a safe distance, he was not touched. As soon as he approached a distance that our pilot considered unsafe, he drove him away.

I didn’t see this on the video under the article. Everything is clear on your video (how many planes, how and where).

Tired of chewing everything.

Well, of course, how could another ignoramus not wipe his nose. It is impossible to ignore, it is obligatory to snuck and incriminate in ignorance of military affairs. Probably proud of yourself ?! ...I am proud of you. Homeland in good hands. I’ll go to sleep calmly.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

how could another ignoramus not wipe his nose.

I'm sorry, I didn’t mean to offend you

Probably proud of yourself ?! .

I'm ashamed.
Torn out of the blue. Sorry again, good night

[Nikolay87]

The world is friendship. With you chewing gum ... domestic production

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nikolay87

With you chewing gum ... domestic production

And a beer check

[Charik]

missile type P73-for close combat-guidance through helmet-mounted target designator

[usr01]

Well, Zhirinovsky is still right !!!
"Shoot down !!! to hell!"
... and no "dangerous maneuvers" !!!!!

[Nikolay87]

Quote: usr01

Well, Zhirinovsky is still right !!!
"Shoot down !!! to hell!"
... and no "dangerous maneuvers" !!!!!

Do not flirt with Zhirinovsky. He’s a little populist. For any reason, he offers the most radical measures - PR and more.

[Vasyan1971]

In order to identify them, two Spanish Air Force F-18 fighters were lifted from the Lithuanian air base Šiauliai, which made an attempt to identify them.

And what for to come close? Like "touch, otherwise there is an optical illusion of health"? Purest provocation. Then to squeal about the aggressiveness and unpredictability of the Russians.

[tihonmarine]

Alliance pilot's high training helped prevent a possible disaster.

Well, we all remember the high training of Spanish pilots, when a Spanish fighter in Estonia launched an air-to-air missile, it’s good that it flew into the swamp, otherwise it would have been “high training”.

[aiden]

Last year they performed spectacularly. This is somehow not so. The NATO plane went up, and ours flew somewhere. And at the end just do su-35 appeared

[yfast]

To shoot down a NATO plane intentionally is a declaration of a NATO war. And there is no certainty that they will also fight from the sofas.

[Lord of the Sith]

And if ours had jumped on the NATO plane?
Would you say it was an "unsafe downing of an aircraft"?

The behavior model of NATO more and more resembles the behavior of yard gopniks.
On the show off like on wheels, snot bubbles, and not really pissed off.

[Reserve buildbat]

Indeed, the Su-27 maneuver is not safe enough. In order to ensure security, it was necessary to bring down the provocateur
(joke)

[APASUS]

In fact, a pure provocation, a test of our reaction. Such a plane is not a UFO, everyone is well aware of NATO, who and where flies.
To identify Shoigu flying in an airplane, two F-18s flew ..................

[E.S.]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Nikolay87

It was necessary to direct a rocket

Yeah ... Manual?

Take for escort if it doesn’t reach right away -
turn on the "target illumination" mode of operation of the radar, usually after that enlightenment occurs in the brain

[E.S.]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

And if ours had jumped on the NATO plane?
Would you say it was an "unsafe downing of an aircraft"?

The behavior model of NATO more and more resembles the behavior of yard gopniks.
On the show off like on wheels, snot bubbles, and not really pissed off.

There was a precedent when a Chinese on the clone of the MiG-21 butted a patrol Orion. Orion is sick

[MARANCANO]

I am constantly amazed at my comrades who shout something like "should have been knocked down", etc.

Can you imagine the consequences? Personally, I don’t want to fight with anyone, it didn’t fall for me, as did 99% of the country's population.

And I don’t want to talk about the tightening of economic pressure on us and 100% isolation. Then you yourself will whine that the last horseradish without salt is eating up.

Warriors, damn it - the ward is crazy!

PS: I believe that this most likely happened with GDP, since the Ministry of Defense is not afraid. And this means only that, as they didn’t put it, they don’t put us in anything. Draw conclusions, in PM and about our military capabilities in front of NATO.

[Chaldon48]

And no one wonders why he came close.

[Izotovp]

It is necessary to equip aircraft of this level with a powerful electronic warfare complex. So that the planes of the most likely friends simply go blind and stall .. at least .. when approaching.

[Mavrikiy]

NATO accused Su-27 of "unsafe maneuver" in relation to the F-18 alliance

We agree, our pilot was wrong, he had to gasp out of the gun, comrade.

[g1washntwn]

"Unsafe maneuvers" are used against offenders. In the same USA, the police are in full swing practicing such "unsafe maneuvers" to ram the cars of violators. Therefore, this whimpering only confirms that NATO pilots have violated the rules of rapprochement and identification that are publicly and tacitly adopted for such cases. It would be better to keep quiet, maybe they would pass for smart ones.