Reported downed Su-Xnumx in Syria

It is stated that in Syria Su-22 government forces were shot down.

According to unverified data, the Su-22 was shot down today in the south of Idlib province. According to preliminary data, the pilot was captured. Information about the incident was distributed by Syrian sources.

The degree of reliability of the information is currently unknown. However, the source accompanied the note with frames of a column of smoke above the horizon.

# Syria: aftermath of SU-22 crach on SE. #Idlib front after it was downed today. Pilot possibly located. pic.twitter.com/maVYuqqf8A

- Qalaat Al Mudiq (@QalaatAlMudiq) August 14

Earlier, the Syrian army launched an operation to liberate Idlib from militants. The ceasefire had to be interrupted due to constant shelling of the SAA’s positions by terrorists of the Khayyat Tahrir al-Sham group (formerly Jebhat al-Nusra), which was banned in the Russian Federation.

Su-22 is an export version of the Su-17 fighter. The version with the R-29BS-300 engine and the original avionics (LDiP "Klen-PS") was called the Su-22М3 and was produced in a small series in 1982-1983. Su-22М4 is an export version of Su-17М4. Both cars were in service with the Syrian Air Force.

Official Damascus is actively using these aircraft to strike at militant positions. During the confrontation with the forces of terrorist groups and the international coalition, the Syrian Arab Republic lost 11 vehicles of this type, not counting the cars mentioned in the note.

Comments

[Nycomed]

And how was he "grounded"? MANPADS? The pilot is alive and Thank God! Now let the "Assad Tigers" rescue him. At the same time, let's see what they are worth.

[Xenofont]

Can you bomb by mistake on Turkish observation posts? Sorry (in a year).

[Dmitry Vinner]

Can ... Tokmo Turkey has unmatched S-400 air defense systems. Did you not know?

[Xenofont]

But not on Syrian territory! Did you not know?

[Dmitry Vinner]

What is the range of the S-300? I forgot .....

[Dmitry Vinner]

Excuse me .... S-400. As far as I remember, they block almost all of Syria .... Asya?

[Dmitry Vinner]

I will open another place for the cons ...
From now on, with the help of Allah and Putin, without our, Turkish knowledge, not one goose with Khmeinim will take off. As the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation said, "This will cool the hotheads."

[StudentVK]

Sultan wrote a letter of apology ?? "condescended"?!? And we already saw your "independence and coolness" when you shot down our plane, and were afraid to fart in our direction, since everything else NATO sent your "independent-cool" sultan to hell, saying that break yourself)))

[Dmitry Vinner]

Have you seen this letter? Translated, not retold? Try to find and read.
= Representatives of Erdogan confirmed the fact of contacting Putin, noting that the document expressed condolences over the death of the Russian pilot and apologies to his family members. = (C) Look for the original yourself .. You can ask those who explained to you that This is an apology for the downed plane. Sorry about that. I thought that here, in VO, smart people gather. With rare exceptions, primitive cheers who believe in everything they are told.
PS. I am a Turk like you are a Chinese. Good luck to you and VO.

[StudentVK]

I DO NOT SEE Russia 24. So propaganda definitely doesn't work for me. I try to be realistic about things. and if you say in your spitch: "Have you seen the letter?" etc. If I see a tomato, and an Azerbaijani says to me that it is a vegetable, this does not mean that a tomato is not a vegetable ???? And you were expecting that Erdogan in the full sense of these words got down on his knees and asked Putin for forgiveness under the cameras ????))) Well, don't tell me.

[Rose13]

yude, not gundi

[RideMaster]

They would have taken it themselves and counted it.

[VO3A]

Syrian pilots use this plane as an attack aircraft .... They shoot Nurses and cannons ... They can drop bombs in manual mode ... The complexes do not work there, half of the equipment too .... Su-22M4 can bomb in the machine with a large heights in theory with good equipment and working RSBN / RSDN .... according to known coordinates, but this is in theory ...

[Valerik1337]

It would have happened so that the pilot will regret that he did not die immediately

[Nycomed]

God forbid, of course. Let them think how to get it. Surely you can exchange for some barmaley. Assad has enough of them in captivity, I think so.

[Prisoner]

Most likely it will be so if they do not have time to repulse. But such operations will not work for one or two. In general, the position of the pilot is nowhere worse.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Nycomed

And how was he "grounded"? MANPADS? The pilot is alive and Thank God! Now let the "Assad Tigers" rescue him. At the same time, let's see what they are worth.

It’s good that the Syrian Air Force’s Su-22 wasn’t shot down from the S-400, but how we would look in the eyes of the side for which we were essentially fighting.

[Nycomed]

It's good that not from the C-200 themselves. Everyone knows the "accuracy" of the Asad anti-aircraft gunners.

[StudentVK]

Well, how is it "in Jewish" to blame the Arabs)) (in that particular case)))) Speak this crap as much as possible, you will not like the result sooo much.

[quote]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Quote: Nycomed

And how was he "grounded"? MANPADS? The pilot is alive and Thank God! Now let the "Assad Tigers" rescue him. At the same time, let's see what they are worth.

It’s good that the Syrian Air Force’s Su-22 wasn’t shot down from the S-400, but how we would look in the eyes of the side for which we were essentially fighting.

Grandma on the bench.

[Chaldon48]

Edragon, I think I’m not crazy yet.

[VO3A]

Su-22 is an export version of the Su-17 fighter. The version with the R-29BS-300 engine and the original avionics (LDiP "Klen-PS") was called the Su-22M3 and was produced in a small series in 1982-1983.

Su-22M3 there is no such aircraft in Syria ... There is Su-22M ... Su-22M3 is a subseries of them released 12 pieces in total ... and not to Syria ...

[Lord of the Sith]

Photo of the pilot of the Su-22 with the rank of colonel.

Meanwhile, the boiler is shutting down.

The line of defense of militants in northern Syria is falling apart before our eyes. The Syrian army is already on the western approaches to the city of Khan Sheikhun.

Fighting broke out at the Al-Salam checkpoint at the western entrance to the city. The Islamists are fiercely defending themselves, trying to push back the military and launch a counteroffensive. They need to recapture the dominant Tal-As height in order to secure the city again.

And now I’ll add a little drama so that you understand what is at stake in this battle.

Khan Sheikhoun is one of the main strongholds of anti-government groups in the south of Idlib province, the "gateway" to Idlib, in a sense.

It is here that the headquarters of several groups from the Tahrir Ash-Shyam coalition and the rear base of the militants are located, which supplied their positions in the north-west and north of Hama province.

[Sky strike fighter]

It seems to me that most likely they will squeeze the militants from the emerging Latamin boiler towards Khan Sheikhun, threatening the last frontal assault and, as a result, create the need for the militants to defend any valuable Khan Sheikhun, otherwise the boiler and the loss of an important stronghold, the key to Idlib. The situation will develop on the example of the assault on Aleppo.

[Lord of the Sith]

The fighting is already on the outskirts of the city, several houses and a factory were taken.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

The fighting is already on the outskirts of the city, several houses and a factory were taken.

Maybe they will try to take it right away, if the city is poorly fortified, but will there be enough strength? If it is not enough, they will try to squeeze in the direction of Khan Sheikhun and only after cleaning the Latamine boiler will Khan Sheikhun take care of himself.

[Glory Ponomarev]

They missed the most important thing. There is a Turkish observation post under Khan Sheikhun, where recently the Turks drove a large convoy. They will also take it by storm or whatever)

[Sky strike fighter]

You missed that it was Erdogan who helped a lot to get the greens out of Aleppo when he was assaulted, that is, you played essentially Assad. (I do not believe in rumors about Erdogan and Assad’s quarrels, this rumor is a kind of alibi for Erdogan in the West. ) It will be the same with observation posts near Khan Sheikhun.

[Aerodrome]

You won’t envy the pilot .... if I could have shot myself, keep him ... (I’m an atheist) in short, hold on Man.

[demo]

What, under what circumstances, by whom?
Then we can draw conclusions.
If MANPADS began to arrive, then the situation will be worse and worse day by day.

[Nycomed]

Remnants of Assad aviation, and all business, will be driven to a height beyond the reach of MANPADS. The truth about the accuracy of strikes from such a height can be forgotten.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: Nycomed

Remnants of Assad aviation, and all business, will be driven to a height beyond the reach of MANPADS. The truth about the accuracy of strikes from such a height can be forgotten.

Assad Aviation Yes. And what about our aviation?

[Constructor68]

And what about our aviation ceiling like Ilya Muromets Sikorsky - 5km?

[donavi49]

And what to do? Well, in terms of sense? To bomb in villages - without normal selection of targets? So the bombs aren’t enough. Yes, and aircraft too. With 5km + only Su-34 can at least make some selection visually - using an optical station. And then the question is how effective it will be.
Su-30 / Rooks - according to the eyes of the pilots. With 5km you will see a lot there? Where to drop the bomb?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: donavi49

And what to do? Well, in terms of sense? To bomb in villages - without normal selection of targets? So the bombs aren’t enough. Yes, and aircraft too. With 5km + only Su-34 can at least make some selection visually - using an optical station. And then the question is how effective it will be.
Su-30 / Rooks - according to the eyes of the pilots. With 5km you will see a lot there? Where to drop the bomb?

Without panic, this has happened more than once. It happens, but the Syrian Air Force is at the same time fighting. In war, you can’t do without losses.

Official Damascus is actively using these aircraft to strike at militant positions. During the confrontation with the forces of terrorist groups and the international coalition, the Syrian Arab Republic lost 11 vehicles of this type, not counting the cars mentioned in the note.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

. Su-30 / Rooks - according to the eyes of the pilots. With 5km you will see a lot there?

Maybe still the SU-25?

[donavi49]

And the Rooks (Su-25) and Su-30СМ - now work visually on the ground, that is, with their eyes. To determine with 5km that there is a fortified Babakh point in this house, and then 1,5 truck with an automatic 57mm gun is hidden - it won’t work with 5km eyes. Therefore, you just have to throw in the sector, and there as Allah decides.

[mvg]

With 5km + only the Su-34 can at least make some selection visually

What is worse than Su-24 with Hephaestus? Well, the Su-30SM finally finally finishes off some sort of PNA thread .. Something else went to Egypt, along with the MiG-29

[donavi49]

And how will Hephaestus (an automatic system for increasing the accuracy of cast iron - by taking into account a number of factors) - in choosing a goal?

Well, you fly a couple on which Khan Sheikhun. Inside, according to intelligence, about 100 broads, 3-4 hard gun tracks, 10-12 Toyota for transferring broads between defense sectors and their fire support, 8-10 ATGM positions.

Did you come to the village and? Just drop the 8-16 bombs to hell and go home? So bombing this town will take a very long time. And the siege will drag on, and there Erdogan will again push the truce through Putin. And the Latamine pocket will survive for another year. From where the broads will launch UAVs at Khmemim and unload Grad packages at the Ham base.

The container is still in operation. Recently, an experienced 902 flew in Zhukovsky. So they still finish it.

[mvg]

[quote] And how Hephaestus will help [quote]
A pair of Su-24s, this is 15 tons of "cast iron", where the bomb fell, there and babakh ... Several sorties .. and the conditional Khan Sheikhun is not on the map. And, as it seems to me, it is not possible to shoot down a modern aircraft with MANPADS. Khibiny, Presidents .. The Syrians have a bunch of MANPADS, there are also air defense systems, but the Jews do not fall.
PS: The identification of targets will be entrusted to UAVs, they will draw coordinates, Hephaestus will make an amendment ..

[Nycomed]

And ours initially work from such heights. Or do you think that MANPADS appeared only today in barmalei?

[Infinity]

Quote: Nycomed

And ours initially work from such heights. Or do you think that MANPADS appeared only today in barmalei?

I may not know something, but from quite low heights they work (or worked). For the Su-25 Roman Filipov was shot down last February from MANPADS.

[Kenxnumx]

Judging by the photos of cities, they never knew about accuracy

[Aleksandr21]

We must wait for the official information, but if the photo corresponds to reality, then it is a pity, in any case, there is no loss in a war ..... the pilot is definitely a hero for his country, one can only hope that everything will end happily for him.

[Aerodrome]

Captain, are you one sober or something? (just kidding) but in fact, the plane is cool, the pilots also trained, SU 22 is something close to MiG 21 (well, there are nuances), there was an attempt, and not to say that failed, the conclusions are already luck ! . searched ... tried, but how else? as a result, we are still winning. and then ... how it goes.

[Kolbi]

All the same, Israel could not stand it ..
This warning of Russia is called, if in plain text.

[Zeev Zeev]

And what do we have to do with it? Idlib is far from our borders, Iranian factories and warehouses are not there. Assad wants to water the rebels there - his problems.

[Kolbi]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And what do we have to do with it?

Your favorite excuse ..

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Idlib is far from our borders, Iranian factories and warehouses are not there. Assad wants to water the rebels there - his problems.

Accepted, but still .. Who do you want to substitute?

[Zeev Zeev]

Chasing airplanes to distant lands to bring down an ancient bomber? Even over the Golan, the Syrian Su-24 was shot down only when it crossed the border.

[Sky strike fighter]

What does Israel have to do with it? Erdogan and his wards rule in Greater Idlib.

[Kolbi]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

What does Israel have to do with it? Erdogan and his wards rule in Greater Idlib.

So I'm talking about it ... Israel has nothing to do with this Turks. How skillfully bring "public opinion" down .. I look activation went powerful to the article ..

[gmb]

good entry for different topics.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Kolbi

All the same, Israel could not stand it ..
This warning of Russia is called, if in plain text.

I was always surprised by homegrown experts who from far distant Myxocransk in 6 seconds investigate what is on the other side of the earth and what they have no idea about.

[Vladyka Ecumenical]

Vacuum bombs must be tested in Idlib, everything goes to this, otherwise these trench rats cannot be withdrawn from there.
And what does it mean that terrorists have families ... unless their children, when they grow up, become winners of the Nobel Peace Prize ...?

[Kenxnumx]

That's right - pump up the vacuum there, let the demons suffocate. And Solntsepek used there - what do you think?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

With technology in war, this often happens. But the fact that the pilot came to them is very bad. These fanatics can ruin him in vain.

[gmb]

From their (her) point of view, not in vain.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: gmb

From their (her) point of view, not in vain.

And their point of view must be eliminated by aviation. Now again, with his participation, the videos will be removed and put on the Internet, as they always do.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Aviation, Tiger Force Special Forces, and the FSA Army may change their minds.
Pilot hero.
God grant that he remained alive and exchanged for some sort of barmaleya.

[gmb]

The principle is simple - you must praise yourself, scold the enemy.

[Yaro Polk]

The fighter turns out to be with cheating.
WIKI Pedia.

[Evil echo]

If the captive to the Syrian pilot, then not long, if death, then easy.

[Andrey Gurenkov]

Well, that is, there will never be peace in Syria ...

[RideMaster]

I would put the old su 34 there, at least for the oil and gas, at least a squadron there and 12 su34m for myself, or su 30 of the first construction, and for myself su 30cm1.
They even need a squadron of new aircraft to bomb from a decent height.

[Nycomed]

"I would put the old su 34 there at least a squadron on account of oil and gas."
The only thing left is to find the "old" Su-34s somewhere.