Laser weapons on combat aircraft. Is it possible to resist him?

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The emergence of new technologies is constantly changing the face of weapons and combat tactics. Often the appearance of a new type of weapon completely “closes” the weapon of the previous generation. Firearms have completely replaced bows and arrows, and the creation tanks led to the disappearance of the cavalry.





No less changes can occur within one type of weapon as its characteristics change. For example, using the example of a manned aviation you can see how the designs of aircraft and their weapons changed, and in accordance with this, the tactics of air warfare changed. Firefights between pilots using the personal weapons of pilots of the first wooden biplanes gave way to the fierce maneuvering air battles of World War II. The Vietnam War began the use of guided air-to-air (A-A) missiles, and at the moment long-range air combat using guided missile weapons is considered the main method of air combat.


The evolution of combat aircraft over 100 years


Weapons based on new physical principles


One of the most important directions in the development of weapons in the 21st century can be considered the creation of weapons based on new physical principles (NPP). Despite the skepticism with which many perceive weapons in the NFP, their appearance could radically change the appearance of the armed forces of the near future. When talking about weapons in NFP, we primarily mean laser weapons (LO) and kinetic weapons with electric/electromagnetic projectile acceleration.

The world's leading powers are investing huge amounts of money in the development of laser and kinetic weapons. The leaders in the number of projects being implemented are countries such as the USA, Germany, Israel, China, and Türkiye. The political and geographical dispersion of the ongoing developments does not allow us to assume a “conspiracy” with the aim of leading the enemy (Russia) into an obviously dead-end direction of arms development. To carry out work, in particular, on the creation of laser weapons, the largest defense concerns are involved: American Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, General Atomic and General Dynamics, German Rheinmetall AG and MBDA, and many others.

When people talk about laser weapons, they often remember the negative experience gained in the 20th century as part of Soviet and American programs to create combat lasers. Here it is necessary to take into account the key difference - lasers of that period, capable of providing power sufficient to hit targets, were either chemical or gas-dynamic, which determined their significant size, the presence of flammable and toxic components, inconvenience of operation and low efficiency. The failure to adopt combat models based on the results of those tests was perceived by many as the final collapse of the idea of ​​laser weapons.

In the 21st century, the emphasis has shifted to the creation of fiber and solid-state lasers, which have become widespread in industry. At the same time, target guidance and tracking technologies have significantly advanced, new optical schemes and batch combination of beams from several laser units into a single beam using diffraction gratings have been implemented. All this made the emergence of laser weapons a near reality.


MIRACL chemical laser, created in 1980, and Rheinmetall's newest fiber combat laser


At the moment, we can assume that the supply of serial laser weapons to the armed forces of the leading countries of the world has already begun. Early 2019 Rheinmetall AG announced the successful completion of tests of a 100 kW combat laser, which can be integrated into the MANTIS air defense system of the Bundeswehr armed forces. The US Army has awarded a contract to Northrop Grumman and Raytheon for creation of a 50 kW laser weapon to equip Stryker combat vehicles converted for short-range air defense missions (M-SHORAD). But the biggest surprise came from the Turks, using a ground-based laser system to destroy a combat unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) during real combat operations in Libya.


Chinese reconnaissance and strike UAV shot down by Turkish combat laser in Libya


At the moment, most laser weapons are being developed for use from land-based and sea-based platforms, which is understandable due to the lower requirements imposed on laser weapon developers in terms of weight, size characteristics and energy consumption. However, it can be assumed that laser weapons will have the greatest impact on the appearance and tactics of using combat aircraft.

Laser weapons on combat aircraft


The possibility of effective use of laser weapons on combat aircraft is due to the following factors:
— high permeability of the atmosphere for laser radiation, increasing with increasing flight altitude;
— potentially vulnerable targets in the form of air-to-air missiles, especially with optical and thermal homing heads;
— weight and size restrictions imposed on anti-laser protection of aircraft and aircraft ammunition.

At the moment, the United States is showing the greatest activity in equipping combat aircraft with laser weapons. One of the most likely candidates for the installation of LO is the fifth generation aircraft F-35B. The installation process removes the lift fan that provides the F-35B with vertical takeoff and landing capabilities. Instead, a complex should be installed, including an electric generator driven by a jet engine shaft, a cooling system and a laser weapon with a beam guidance and retention system. The estimated power should be from 100 kW at the initial stage, followed by a gradual increase to 300 kW and up to 500 kW. Taking into account the emerging progress in the creation of laser weapons, we can expect the first results after 2025 and the appearance of serial samples with a laser of 300 kW or more after 2030.


F-35B with integrated laser weapon system


Another prototype under development is Lockheed Martin's SHiELD system for equipping the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighters. Ground tests of the SHiELD complex were successfully completed at the beginning of 2019, air tests are planned for 2021, entry into service is planned after 2025.

In addition to the creation of laser weapons, equally important is the development of compact power supplies. Work in this area is also actively underway, for example, in May 2019, a British company Rolls-Royce demonstrated a compact hybrid power plant for combat lasers.

Thus, it can be assumed with a high probability that in the coming decades laser weapons will occupy their niche in the arsenal of combat aircraft. What tasks will it solve in this capacity?

The use of laser weapons by combat aircraft


The main declared task of laser weapons on board combat aircraft should be to intercept attacking enemy air-to-air and surface-to-air (Z-A) missiles. At the moment, the possibility of intercepting unguided mortar mines and multiple launch rocket system shells with lasers with a power of 30 kW (the optimal value is considered to be 100 kW) at a range of several kilometers has been confirmed. Laser and optical jamming systems have already been adopted and are actively being used, providing temporary blinding of the sensitive optical heads of man-portable air defense systems (MANPADS).


The main task of laser weapons is to intercept attacking V-V and Z-V missiles


Thus, the appearance on board of aircraft of laser weapons with a power of 100 kW and above will ensure the protection of the aircraft from V-V and Z-V missiles with optical and thermal homing heads, that is, MANPADS missiles and short-range V-V missiles. Moreover, such missiles will most likely be hit at a distance of up to five kilometers or more in a short period of time. At the moment, the presence of all-aspect short-range V-V missiles is considered one of the reasons for the lack of need for maneuverable close combat, since the combination of “transparent armor” technology and advanced guidance systems makes it possible to target missile weapons without significantly changing the aircraft’s position in space. The limited weight and size characteristics of V-V missiles and MANPADS missiles will make it difficult to install effective anti-laser protection on them.

Laser weapons on combat aircraft. Is it possible to resist him?

Short-range V-V missiles and MANPADS may become the first “victims” of aircraft laser weapons


The next candidates for destruction by laser weapons will be long- and medium-range V-V and Z-V missiles, which use active radar homing heads (ARLGSN). First of all, the question arises of creating a radio-transparent protective material that provides protection for the ARLGSN fabric. In addition, the processes that will occur when the head fairing is irradiated with laser radiation require separate study. It is possible that the heating products formed in this case will interfere with the passage of radar radiation and disrupt target acquisition. If a solution to this problem is not found, then you will have to return to the radio command guidance of V-V and Z-V missiles directly by an aircraft or an anti-aircraft missile system (SAM). And this will again bring us back to the problem of the limited number of channels for simultaneous missile guidance and the need to maintain the aircraft’s course until the missiles hit the target.

With an increase in the power of laser radiation, not only elements of the homing system can be damaged, but also other structural elements of V-V and Z-V missiles, which will require them to be equipped with anti-laser protection. The use of anti-laser protection will increase the size and weight and significantly reduce the range, speed and maneuverability characteristics of V-V and W-V missiles. In addition to the deterioration of tactical and technical characteristics (TTX), which make it difficult to hit a target, missiles with anti-laser protection will be more vulnerable to highly maneuverable CUDA-type anti-missiles, which do not require protection from laser radiation.


Small-sized highly maneuverable missiles B-B type CUDA


Thus, the appearance of laser weapons on combat aircraft is to some extent a one-sided game. To protect V-V and Z-V missiles from laser damage, it will be necessary to equip them with anti-laser protection, increase flight speed to hypersonic to minimize the time spent in the laser radiation zone, and, possibly, abandon homing heads. At the same time, the ammunition load of larger and more massive V-V and Z-V missiles will be reduced, and they themselves will be more susceptible to interception by small-sized, highly maneuverable CUDA-type anti-missiles.

The limited ammunition load of fifth-generation aircraft, which will especially manifest itself due to the increase in the size and mass of V-V missiles, combined with the high probability of interception by a laser or anti-missile missile, can lead to the fact that opposing combat aircraft with laser weapons on board will enter close combat range , weapons for which are even more vulnerable to laser weapons.

Laser weapons and close air combat (CAC)


Let’s assume that two combat aircraft, having fired their stock of V-V guided missiles, reached a range of 10-15 km relative to each other. In this case, a laser weapon with a power of 300-500 kW can directly impact an enemy aircraft. Modern guidance systems at such a range are quite capable of pinpointing a laser beam at vulnerable elements of an enemy aircraft - the cockpit, reconnaissance equipment, engines, and control drives. At the same time, on-board radio-electronic equipment, based on the optical and radar signature of a particular aircraft, can independently select vulnerable points and point a laser beam at them.

Given the high reaction speed that laser weapons can provide, as a result of a short-range engagement using low-range missiles, both traditionally designed aircraft will most likely be damaged or destroyed, with both pilots primarily killed.

One solution could be the development of compact, short-range, high-speed, radio-guided munitions that can overcome the protection provided by laser weapons due to their high flight speed and salvo density. Just as several anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs) are required to destroy one modern tank equipped with an active protection system (APS), to defeat one enemy aircraft with laser weapons may require a simultaneous salvo of a certain number of small-sized close-in missiles.

The end of the era of "invisibility"


Speaking about the combat aviation of the future, one cannot fail to mention the promising radio-optical phased antenna array (ROFAR), which should become the basis for reconnaissance equipment for combat aviation. Details about all the capabilities of this technology are still unknown, but potentially the emergence of ROFAR will put an end to all existing technologies for reducing visibility. If difficulties arise with ROFAR, then advanced models of radar stations with active phased antenna arrays (AFAR radars) will be used on promising aircraft, which, in combination with the intensive use of electronic warfare technologies, can also significantly reduce the effectiveness of “stealth” technology.


ROFAR technology


Based on the foregoing, it can be assumed that in the event that aircraft with laser weapons appear in the enemy air force, an effective solution will be the use of aircraft with a large number of weapons on an external sling. In fact, there will be a certain “rollback” to the 4+/4++ generation, and the current models could be the deeply modernized Su-35S, Eurofighter Typhoon or F-15X. For example, the Su-35S can carry weapons on twelve hardpoints, the Eurofighter Typhoon has thirteen hardpoints, and the upgraded F-15X can carry up to twenty V-B missiles.


4+/4++ generation fighters – Su-35S, Eurofighter Typhoon and F-15X


The latest Russian multifunctional fighter Su-57 has slightly less capabilities. The external and internal suspensions of the Su-57 can carry a total of up to twelve V-V missiles. It is likely that hardpoints can be developed for Russian fighters, providing, by analogy with the F-15X fighter, the placement of several ammunition on one unit, which will increase the ammunition load of the S-35S and Su-57 fighters to 18-22 missiles. .


Multirole fighter of the fifth generation Su-57


Armament


Getting close to an aircraft equipped with a laser weapon can be extremely dangerous due to the high reaction speed of the aircraft. If this happens, it is necessary to maximize the probability of defeating the enemy in the shortest possible time. One of the possible solutions can be considered rapid-firing automatic aircraft guns of about 30 mm caliber with guided projectiles.


MAD-FIRES guided projectiles are planned to be implemented in calibers up to 20 mm


The presence of guided projectiles will make it possible to attack an enemy aircraft from a greater distance than is possible with the use of unguided ammunition. At the same time, intercepting 30-40 mm shells with a laser can be difficult due to their small dimensions and the large amount of ammunition in the queue (15-30 shells).

As mentioned earlier, laser weapons primarily pose a threat to missiles with optical and thermal seekers, and possibly also to missiles with ARLGOS. This will affect the nature of the weapons used by combat aircraft to counter enemy aircraft with air defenses. The main weapons designed to destroy aircraft with LOs should be remote-controlled V-V missiles with protection from laser radiation. In this case, the radar's ability to simultaneously guide several V-V missiles to a target will be of particular importance.

An equally important point is the equipping of V-V and Z-V missiles with ramjet engines (ramjet engines). This will not only provide the missile with the energy necessary for maneuvering at maximum range, but will also reduce the time of exposure to radiation due to the high speed of the missile in the final flight phase. In addition, high-speed V-V missiles will be a more difficult target for CUDA-type anti-missiles.


MBDA Meteor long-range air-to-air guided missile, equipped with ARGSN and a sustainer ramjet engine


And finally, part of the fighter’s ammunition load should consist of small-sized anti-missile missiles, placed in several units at one suspension point, capable of intercepting enemy V-V and W-V missiles.

conclusions


1. The appearance of laser weapons on combat aircraft, especially in combination with small-sized anti-missile defenses, will require an increase in the transportable ammunition load of V-V missiles for combat aircraft. Since the capacity of the internal compartments of fifth-generation aircraft is limited, it will be necessary to place missiles on an external sling, which will have an extremely negative impact on stealth. This may mean a certain “renaissance” of 4+/4++ generation aircraft.

2. Laser weapons will pose an exceptional danger in close combat, therefore, in the event of an unsuccessful attack from long and medium range, pilots will, if possible, avoid close combat with aircraft equipped with lasers.

3. The possibility of confronting a generation 4+/4++/5 combat aircraft with a large number of explosive missiles and a stealthy generation 5 aircraft with laser weapons on board is determined by the performance of the aircraft and anti-missile missiles in intercepting explosive missiles. Starting from a certain point, the tactics of using massive launches of V-V missiles against aircraft equipped with anti-aircraft missiles and anti-missile defenses may become unworkable, which will require a rethinking of the concept of multi-role combat aircraft, which we will consider in the next material.
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  1. 0
    15 August 2019 18:20
    Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!
    1. AVM
      +2
      15 August 2019 18:44
      Quote: E.S.
      Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!


      These are not my inventions - https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-480002-amerikantsy-ispitali-dvigatel-dlya-mad-fires/

      According to the Pentagon's requirement, the new ammunition must be suitable for firing from artillery guns with a caliber of 20 to 40 millimeters.


      Of course, it is impossible to say that this will be realized. But this is not a critical technology for the Air Force. For me, it is more important for the Navy and Air Defense.
      1. KCA
        0
        August 16, 2019 03:21
        Popmechanics is an extremely authoritative magazine, all the leading armchair scientists, designers, engineers, military men are eagerly reading his articles, which at one time the magazine “Young Technician” would not have published, only if there was a magazine “Well, a very young technician”, for children from 5 to 10 years old
        1. +2
          August 16, 2019 04:37
          Quote: KCA
          which at one time the magazine "Young Technician" would not have published, only if there had been a magazine "Well, a very young technician", for children from 5 to 10 years old

          You explained in such detail that you left no space at all for the journal “Technology of Youth”...
          The author wrote an interesting article about the prospects of laser weapons in aviation, and to criticize his work without offering your own attention is simply indecent.
          You remember the video from 1991 very well:

          And it was perceived with humor and some doom, based on the memory of the rapid discharge of “batteries” for portable tape recorders and their weight.
          Today, thirty years later, how do you perceive this video while holding a smartphone?
          As for battery charging, it has decreased from several hours to:
          Samsung has patented a graphene battery that charges in 12 seconds.
          The new batteries will provide high charging speeds and, at the same time, protection from high temperatures, ZDNet reports. The publication reports that graphene conducts electricity 140 times faster than silicon.
          And this, in turn, increases the battery charging speed by five times.

          Sitting on the sofa, naturally, it is difficult to imagine SOMETHING... But the time is not far off, unless, of course, “super-men” destroy each other, when fantastic theories and assumptions will be considered in the order of ordinary everyday things.
          With equipment and weapons this will (may) happen much faster and on a grander scale.
          You just need to live a little longer for this... yes
          PS As a child, I listened to music and fairy tales recorded on shellac gramophone records. Later they were replaced with vinyl ones, and the inserts from the Krugozor magazine were so popular that they were continued on “media” from X-ray photographs.
          My first tape recorder, bought in 1972 with the money I earned, was:

          Cost about 140 rubles...
          Imagine how many changes have occurred since then.
          By the way, many of the prospects from “Young Technician” have been successfully translated into reality.
          hi
          1. 0
            October 23, 2019 10:48
            If a laser on an airplane is capable of delivering a 100 kW pulse every half second, then yes - it could be a dangerous weapon. And if charging a shot lasts tens of seconds, then you shouldn’t bother with installing what kind of “weapon”
  2. 0
    15 August 2019 18:33
    Now there will be screams that all laser projects are a waste of money and, in general, “you’re all lying”)))
    1. +2
      15 August 2019 18:55
      all laser projects drank this

      What does he have to do with drinking? We are talking about sharing the skin of an unkilled bear. Aviation does not yet have such weapons, and it is not known when they will have them, but no one denies that work needs to be done in this direction. But when they create a combat laser located on a fighter, then, depending on its performance characteristics, the tactics of use will become clear.

      I, too, can fantasize as well as the author: now our guys from Sarov will drive up a 100 megawatt compact reactor and we will sink aircraft carriers from orbit with a laser cannon with one shot. belay
  3. +4
    15 August 2019 18:38
    Well, not an article, but a disappointment. A lot of inaccuracies, all in a heap and unfounded conclusions.
    Here are just a few examples.

    - The author writes as a fait accompli
    But the Turks presented the biggest surprise by using a ground-based laser system to destroy a combat unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) during real combat operations in Libya.
    THIS IS NOT A FACT BUT ALL JUST A SPECULATION, maybe it corresponds to the truth or maybe not.
    - the author writes
    the appearance of serial samples with a laser of 300 kW or more after 2030.
    Well, you can’t take away SO much MEGAWATT power from a fighter jet turbine; in order to do this you need a RESERVE OF MEGAWATT power. Do you think the F-35 has it?
    - the author writes
    Speaking about the combat aviation of the future, one cannot fail to mention the promising radio-optical phased antenna array (ROFAR),
    What does the article about laser weapons have to do with ROFAR?

    ETC. AND SO ON.

    The conclusions are so unfounded
    -that they will learn to shoot down short-range V-V missiles is probably correct, but this WILL ON THE OVERSEAS lead to a desire to engage in close combat and
    use the cannon.
    - against the backdrop of the forecast for installation of the fifth generation aircraft, the hypothesis about the renaissance of the 4+ generation is generally untenable (or is the author planning to equip old aircraft with aircraft?)
    1. AVM
      0
      15 August 2019 18:50
      Quote: bk316
      Well, not an article, but a disappointment. A lot of inaccuracies, all in a heap and unfounded conclusions.
      Here are just a few examples.

      - The author writes as a fait accompli
      But the Turks presented the biggest surprise by using a ground-based laser system to destroy a combat unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) during real combat operations in Libya.
      THIS IS NOT A FACT BUT ALL JUST A SPECULATION, maybe it corresponds to the truth or maybe not.


      Maybe not, but that's how it's presented. And even if not, then this is a matter of the near future. In general, I assumed that Israel would be the first to use LO.

      Quote: bk316
      - the author writes
      the appearance of serial samples with a laser of 300 kW or more after 2030.
      Well, you can’t take away SO much MEGAWATT power from a fighter jet turbine; in order to do this you need a RESERVE OF MEGAWATT power. Do you think the F-35 has it?


      What is the power of the lift fan? And it's not a megawatt. A 100 kW laser will require 250-300 kW of power, and a 300 kW laser will require 600-800 kW.

      Quote: bk316
      - the author writes
      Speaking about the combat aviation of the future, one cannot fail to mention the promising radio-optical phased antenna array (ROFAR),
      What does the article about laser weapons have to do with ROFAR?


      Despite the fact that it will devalue Stealth technology, and without it, the advantage of the fifth generation over the fourth is not so obvious.

      Quote: bk316
      The conclusions are so unfounded
      that they will learn to shoot down short-range V-V missiles, which is probably correct, but this WILL ON THE OPPOSITE LEAD to a desire to engage in close combat and
      use a cannon.


      The laser will burn out the pilot's brains before he gets into attack position. No maneuvering can compare with the speed of aircraft guidance.

      Quote: bk316
      - against the backdrop of the forecast for installation of the fifth generation aircraft, the hypothesis about the renaissance of the 4+ generation is generally untenable (or is the author planning to equip old aircraft with aircraft?)


      Not the author, but the US Air Force -
      Another prototype under development is Lockheed Martin's SHiELD system for equipping the F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighters. Ground tests of the SHiELD complex were successfully completed at the beginning of 2019, air tests are planned for 2021, and entry into service is planned after 2025.
      1. -2
        15 August 2019 18:56
        //In general, I assumed that Israel would be the first to use LO.//
        Well, there was combat use according to nurses.
        True, the information will be classified and the power of the installation. Until competing firms show up. Maybe another six months, a year I think. Again, these are only, well, let’s say, prototypes.
      2. 0
        15 August 2019 19:05
        The laser will burn out the pilot's brains earlier,

        How is this possible? Making an opaque cockpit and a helmet with augmented reality is WAY EASIER than a combat laser. Yes, in fact, it’s already been done.


        A 100 kW laser will require 250-300 kW of power, and a 300 kW laser will require 600-800 kW.

        And for
        followed by a gradual increase to 300 kW and up to 500 kW.

        Exactly MEGAWATT.


        air tests are planned for 2021 ,

        You see, this is all just fantasy...
        1. AVM
          0
          15 August 2019 19:44
          Quote: bk316
          The laser will burn out the pilot's brains earlier,

          How is this possible? Making an opaque cockpit and a helmet with augmented reality is WAY EASIER than a combat laser. Yes, in fact, it’s already been done.


          That's right, more on that in the next article. But this is only part of the solution. Because at short range, the aircraft will target the enemy aircraft in automatic mode, damaging all vulnerable points.

          Quote: bk316
          A 100 kW laser will require 250-300 kW of power, and a 300 kW laser will require 600-800 kW.

          And for
          followed by a gradual increase to 300 kW and up to 500 kW.

          Exactly MEGAWATT.


          It is intended to use the F-35B engine drive shaft, which typically drives the lift fan, to drive a generator with a power output of over 500 kW (in STOVL mode, the drive shaft delivers up to 20 MW of shaft power to the lift fan).

          Quote: bk316
          air tests are planned for 2021 ,

          You see, this is all just fantasy...


          So any forecast can be called fantasy.
          1. +1
            16 August 2019 13:08
            So any forecast can be called fantasy.

            Certainly. From a scientific point of view, there are facts and speculation AND NOTHING ELSE. Forecasts are conjectures, fantasies are also conjectures, plans are also conjectures, interpretation of facts are conjectures.
            You write the article as if it were facts.
            Facts must be clearly separated from speculation, and the presentation of facts must be accurate.
            If you had explicitly written, these are my personal fantasies on the topic of the development of LO, not based on facts. I would love to read it and praise you for the direction of thought...
            I'm just used to reading scientific literature, sorry laughing
      3. -1
        15 August 2019 19:12
        If Israel is the first to present a working LO, then the Persians will be the first to present Kassam with a head plasma generator, and the construct will cost 15 kopecks
      4. +1
        16 August 2019 05:28
        The laser will burn out the pilot's brains before he gets into attack position. No maneuvering can compare with the speed of aircraft guidance.

        Please don’t put up with your armchair vision of air combat practice. Active maneuvering will negate all your attempts to aim at the “brain of the pilot.”
        high permeability of the atmosphere for laser radiation, increasing with increasing flight altitude

        what are you doing? And you probably haven’t heard about the fact that clouds form from altitudes from 300m to 8-9km? Or in your version of the World Bank do they only occur in the stratosphere? Or will it take place exclusively in the desert regions of North Africa and Arabia?
  4. +1
    15 August 2019 18:48
    Cool. But the idea is clear. ... Stealth is not effective, and the laser is our future. winked
  5. -1
    15 August 2019 19:07
    Quote: AVM
    Quote: E.S.
    Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!


    These are not my inventions - https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-480002-amerikantsy-ispitali-dvigatel-dlya-mad-fires/

    According to the Pentagon's requirement, the new ammunition must be suitable for firing from artillery guns with a caliber of 20 to 40 millimeters.


    Of course, it is impossible to say that this will be realized. But this is not a critical technology for the Air Force. For me, it is more important for the Navy and Air Defense.

    A 40-year-old textbook and a slide rule are confident that the guidance range of an adjustable 25-30mm projectile will be commensurate with the spread of projectiles in the queue.
    There is no point in correcting such a projectile by selecting the already small explosive charge of such a projectile for the correction system
    1. AVM
      -1
      15 August 2019 19:38
      Quote: E.S.
      Quote: AVM
      Quote: E.S.
      Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!


      These are not my inventions - https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-480002-amerikantsy-ispitali-dvigatel-dlya-mad-fires/

      According to the Pentagon's requirement, the new ammunition must be suitable for firing from artillery guns with a caliber of 20 to 40 millimeters.


      Of course, it is impossible to say that this will be realized. But this is not a critical technology for the Air Force. For me, it is more important for the Navy and Air Defense.

      A 40-year-old textbook and a slide rule are confident that the guidance range of an adjustable 25-30mm projectile will be commensurate with the spread of projectiles in the queue.
      There is no point in correcting such a projectile by selecting the already small explosive charge of such a projectile for the correction system


      Everything is the same, only the scatter is evenly distributed, and the guided projectiles fly to the target. If you have 2000 shells and you fire them in 10 seconds, then this is not so important. But if you have 100-120 shells, then the situation is completely different.

      Guided projectiles should not “chase” a maneuvering target, only to simplify aiming (there is no need to accurately align the axis of the gun-plane and partially compensate for target deviation.

      The explosive will be of no use if the target is not hit.
  6. -2
    15 August 2019 19:54
    Quote: AVM
    Quote: E.S.
    Quote: AVM
    Quote: E.S.
    Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!


    These are not my inventions - https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/news-480002-amerikantsy-ispitali-dvigatel-dlya-mad-fires/

    According to the Pentagon's requirement, the new ammunition must be suitable for firing from artillery guns with a caliber of 20 to 40 millimeters.


    Of course, it is impossible to say that this will be realized. But this is not a critical technology for the Air Force. For me, it is more important for the Navy and Air Defense.

    A 40-year-old textbook and a slide rule are confident that the guidance range of an adjustable 25-30mm projectile will be commensurate with the spread of projectiles in the queue.
    There is no point in correcting such a projectile by selecting the already small explosive charge of such a projectile for the correction system


    Everything is the same, only the scatter is evenly distributed, and the guided projectiles fly to the target. If you have 2000 shells and you fire them in 10 seconds, then this is not so important. But if you have 100-120 shells, then the situation is completely different.

    Guided projectiles should not “chase” a maneuvering target, only to simplify aiming (there is no need to accurately align the axis of the gun-plane and partially compensate for target deviation.

    The explosive will be of no use if the target is not hit.


    It is still necessary to “set the axis” because the limits of correction are commensurate with the spread of the queue.
    The result of firing a corrected projectile will be the impact of not five projectiles with 150 grams of explosives each, but ten with 50 grams.
    But if a line of 50 conventional projectiles has all missed, then the adjustable projectiles will not have enough trajectory correction limit to select such an aiming error
  7. 0
    15 August 2019 23:04
    Quote: E.S.
    Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!

    why not if we were already talking about “smart” guided bullets for small arms
    1. +1
      August 16, 2019 06:20
      Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!

      why not if we were already talking about “smart” guided bullets for small arms

      so where are they? Probably in the same place as 25-30mm guided projectiles - only in designers’ plans and articles like this
  8. -4
    August 16, 2019 00:31
    The review is approximately correct.
    ROFAR will replace not AFAR, but an optical guidance system.
    Which has a drawback: a narrow pointing angle.
    A little sharply to the side - the optics loses its target, like a sniper scope.
    And ROFAR will hold the target. But at short (“optical”) distances.
    1. 0
      August 16, 2019 01:23
      IMHO, you are wrong.
      In ROFAR, the only optical control system is PPM modules, but otherwise it is an AFAR, although with a large number of modules and high resolution for mapping
      1. 0
        August 16, 2019 06:55
        Avior (Sergey) Today, 01:23
        IMHO, you are mistaken.
        In ROFAR, the only optical control system is PPM modules, but otherwise it is AFAR,

        absolutely not AFAR. Since in AFAR the PPM generates a given level of microwave power of a radio wave and receives the same signal with a given sensitivity of the receiving channel. And in ROFAR, the PPM modulates the laser beam in amplitude with a microwave carrier signal. To put it simply, AFAR radiation is an electromagnetic wave with a certain frequency and length. And ROFAR has photons with a certain polarization.
        1. 0
          August 16, 2019 08:38
          Judging by the developer's statements, it looks a little different.
          The laser beam in the rofar is used to control the PPM - this is in contrast to the Afar, in which the modules are controlled electrically.
          This control method, according to the developers of rofar, can significantly increase the efficiency of the modules, and hence the radiation power, and significantly expand the frequency range in which the modules can operate, which in turn makes it possible to obtain new properties from such a radar.
          .

          In radiophotonics, the energy of light radiation, that is, a laser power of hundreds of kilowatts, is converted using a so-called photonic crystal into microwave radiation. At the same time, the efficiency of devices based on crystalline photons reaches about 70-80%. There is very little excess thermal radiation left. Is this the only advantage of radiophotonics?

          In other respects, will a radar using radiophotonics technology work the same as the existing ones? The capabilities of the so-called active phased array antenna, created using radio photonics technologies (ROFAR), will significantly exceed the capabilities of modern radars.

          http://www.kr-media.ru/news/avionika-i-vooruzhenie/sovetnik-pervogo-zamestitelya-generalnogo-direktora-kret-vg-mikheev-intervyu/

          Another thing is that the developers talk so confusingly about the essence of the issue that this multiplies various misconceptions among readers.
          For example
          . Radar stations operating on the principles of radio-optical phased antenna arrays will provide us with a video image that is not typical for current radars in the form of dots on the screen, but a video image familiar to human vision, as if we could see an object at a distance of hundreds of kilometers

          In fact, this is a description of synthetic aperture radars that have been around for a long time.
          For example http://www.vega.su/production/detail.php?ID=2101
          And the statement looks even more strange
          . , Everything happens in real time since the speed of the photon exceeds the speed of light.
          what
          But we will wait until they present the first actually working sample, I think, then a more clear description of the operating principle will appear
          hi
          1. 0
            August 16, 2019 09:19
            In principle, according to your link, Mikheev said the same thing that I wrote:
            In radiophotonics, the energy of light radiation, that is, a laser power of hundreds of kilowatts, is converted using a so-called photonic crystal into microwave radiation. At the same time, the efficiency of devices based on crystalline photons reaches about 70-80%
            1. 0
              16 August 2019 11:31
              Sorry, but you said the exact opposite -
              . In AFAR radiation is an electromagnetic wave with a certain frequency and length. And ROFAR has photons with a certain polarization.

              According to Mikheev, Rofar has the same electromagnetic microwave radiation as afar, only the frequency range is wider.
              I think it’s better to wait until working samples appear, then the description will be clearer, for now, to be honest, they are very promotional
              1. -1
                16 August 2019 12:34
                "Rofar is the same electromagnetic microwave radiation as afar" ////
                -----
                Absolutely right.
                The laser only generates waves from the sub-millimeter to decimeter range.
                They are sent to the object, and not photons (otherwise it would be simply called a lasersmile ).
                ROFAR - improved AFAR.
                1. 0
                  16 August 2019 12:36
                  It would be more correct to say that it does not generate, but manages generation, and actually generates PPM.
        2. 0
          16 August 2019 12:44
          ". And ROFAR has photons with a certain polarization" ////
          ----
          Photons are emitted by a laser. They will never return to the source of radiation.
    2. 0
      August 16, 2019 07:01
      voyaka uh (Alexey) Today, 00:31
      ROFAR will replace not AFAR, but an optical guidance system.

      But at short (“optical”) distances.

      Warrior, unfortunately you don’t understand the operating principle of ROFAR at all. This is not an optical station like OLS-35 or AN/AAQ-37
      1. -2
        16 August 2019 12:30
        I didn't write that.
        I wrote that ROFAR will replace OLS. And he wrote that ROFAR, since it operates at sub-millimeter wavelengths, is not suitable for long
        distances (due to inevitable losses).
        It is possible that the technologies will be combined into a single device, the basis of which
        will be conventional detection in the centimeter range.
        In any case, ROFAR will not help in the fight against stealth, since
        sub-millimeter waves are easily absorbed by the stealth coating.
  9. 0
    August 16, 2019 01:19
    There is such information on ROFAR
    . KRET is conducting this work and is the lead organization within the framework of the order of the Advanced Research Foundation (APF) under the Government of the Russian Federation. The project started in February 2015 and ends in July 2019. We must present a prototype ROFAR demonstrator and conduct research into the possibilities of its use on promising carriers.

    http://www.kr-media.ru/news/avionika-i-vooruzhenie/sovetnik-pervogo-zamestitelya-generalnogo-direktora-kret-vg-mikheev-intervyu/

    July has passed, but there seems to be no information that the layout has been presented.
    There was no information that the project was extended.
    There is, of course, the option that at the last moment something is being completed and tweaked, as has been the custom in Rus' since time immemorial, and we will soon see messages that a demo model has been presented, and the topic has been extended.
  10. 0
    16 August 2019 10:34
    Quote: Ka-52
    Guided projectiles of 25-30mm caliber for air combat - that's five!

    why not if we were already talking about “smart” guided bullets for small arms

    so where are they? Probably in the same place as 25-30mm guided projectiles - only in designers’ plans and articles like this

    In developing. There were projects even in the USSR (atomic bullets) and also bullets with a jet booster.
    wait, everything is in development, DARPA seems to have already presented them. - or should you just take it out and put it in right now?
    Of course, we can only talk about large-caliber bullets of at least 14 mm. And putting a microelement base into a 30mm projectile is much easier. So everything is still ahead and guided hand grenades too.
    Believe me, someday any fantasy becomes reality. Remember the folding communicators worn by Captain Kirk and the Enterprise crew from Star Trek (original series) of the 60s. Doesn't remind you of anything??
  11. 0
    August 18, 2019 00:30
    For “massive launches” you need to have an equally massive air force and a corresponding number of missiles.
  12. 0
    18 April 2020 23:00
    Victor V. Apollonov (Viktor V. Apollonov) Today, 22:31
    0
    This article once again shows how important it is to have a good understanding of the subject under discussion.
    Without an idea of ​​the trends in the development of laser physics, one can dramatically lead the development of aviation and rocket technology in the wrong direction. A gross mistake in one can lead to gigantic mistakes in other areas of military technology! And these are hundreds of billions and decades of hard work. Answer

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