In Crimea, created a separate squadron of UAVs "Outpost"

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The Black Sea Fleet received a separate squadron of Forpost unmanned aerial vehicles, which became part of the 318 mixed air regiment based near Sevastopol. This was reported by "Izvestia" with reference to the Ministry of Defense.

In Crimea, created a separate squadron of UAVs "Outpost"




A separate Forpost UAV squadron became part of the 318th mixed aviation regiment as early as this spring, the Defense Ministry said. The main task of the squadron is to lead aviation reconnaissance and give target designation to coastal missile systems, artillery and warships. UAVs have already participated in the recent exercises of the Black Sea Fleet in the Black Sea, their use was recognized as successful.

At the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet stated that with the help of these drones, a significant part of the Black Sea is controlled with the possibility of transmitting target designations for X-35 anti-ship missiles, ship Caliber, coastal artillery and missile systems. Currently, the Forpost UAV is in service with the squadron, but a modernized version, Forpost-M, is expected to arrive soon.

To date, Forpost drones are assembled entirely from Russian parts. The basis for this UAV was the Israeli Searcher 2. The decision to start its licensed production at the plant in Yekaterinburg was made under Defense Minister Serdyukov. Initially, the drones were assembled from kits supplied by Israel. Since 2012, the specialists of OJSC "RTI Systems" have been engaged in the localization of production drone and the gradual introduction of Russian components. It was reported that the first completely Russian drones will begin to enter the troops from the beginning of 2019. At the same time, it was announced the creation of a modernized version of Forpost-M with an increased flight range, taking into account the experience of using it in Syria.

Outpost is designed to solve reconnaissance missions, as well as to adjust artillery fire. The dimensions and carrying capacity of this UAV make it possible to carry powerful optoelectronic equipment, as well as a substantial fuel supply. The presence of conventional and infrared cameras makes it possible to conduct surveillance at any time of the day. The UAV is equipped with an economical piston engine, which allows you to stay in the air for up to 17 hours. The radius of the drone is about 250 km, flight altitude - 5 km.

One Outpost unmanned system includes three aircraft and a ground control station.
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    1. +2
      14 August 2019 11: 24
      Quote from AUL
      Only Tervody RF.

      Well, actually tervody - 12 km, then an exclusive economic zone, but with a free sea and aeronautics.
      1. +2
        14 August 2019 11: 57
        Quote: neri73-r
        but with free sea and aeronautics.

        From Yata to Sinop 296 kilometers.
        So that you can "look" there too
        1. 0
          14 August 2019 12: 54
          Children look into the parents' room .... And there should be a constantly monitored positional area with the ability to target weapons in real time ... This is not there, but it should be yesterday ... Uryayayayayaya ....
          1. +2
            14 August 2019 13: 00
            Quote: VO3A
            Children look into their parents' room.

            Will we cling to the words?
            Good, will observe
            Feel better?
            constantly monitored positional area with the ability to target weapons in real time ...

            So if the article is not read diagonally, you can see this
            that with the help of these drones, a significant part of the Black Sea water area is controlled with the possibility of transmitting target designations for the Kh-35 anti-ship missiles, ship-borne "Calibers", coastal artillery and missile systems.

            And this
            "Outpost" is intended for reconnaissance missions, as well as for adjusting artillery fire. The dimensions and carrying capacity of this UAV allow it to carry powerful optoelectronic equipment, as well as a solid supply of fuel. The presence of conventional and infrared cameras makes it possible to conduct surveillance at any time of the day.
            1. 0
              14 August 2019 13: 06
              that with the help of these drones, a significant part of the Black Sea water area is controlled with the possibility of transmitting target designations for the Kh-35 anti-ship missiles, ship-borne "Calibers", coastal artillery and missile systems.


              Describe how you understand it diagonally? Or how is it? Especially in real time? Or should I write right away? Look at all my comments here ..
              1. -1
                14 August 2019 14: 16
                Quote: VO3A
                Describe how you understand it diagonally?

                When most of the text is not seen
                Especially in real time?

                Again
                seas with the ability to transmit target designations for X-35 anti-ship missiles, naval "Calibers",

                Is there a film camera in your opinion and you need to bring the film for development and printing?
                Yes, now even a children's drone transmits a picture in real time
                Look at all my comments here ..

                I answer specific questions in a specific place.
                I'm not going to run after your comments all over the branch.
                Put it all together
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                2. +1
                  14 August 2019 14: 33
                  Only for you and with respect ...
                  Is there a film camera in your opinion and you need to bring the film for development and printing?

                  You guessed it right. On most of our UAVs with a radius of more than 100 km, the route is programmed and the information is recorded on the CHIP, which is retrieved after landing .... Even the Tu-214R writes everything to the carrier and does not transmit anything in the air .... Here what kind of scouts we have ... And why do you think that we have a suicide bomber in Syria - corrections carry out long tasks in the rear of the broads with radio stations from special troops?
                  with the ability to transmit target designations for X-35 anti-ship missiles, naval "Caliber"

                  There is an opportunity, there is no transmission, or by radio station, with decision making, analysis, report, phone decision with manual entry of coordinates into the rocket ... How much time will pass ... The reaction time is hours, but you need it in real time ... I see. ...No offense...
                  1. -1
                    14 August 2019 14: 37
                    Quote: VO3A
                    Only for you and with respect ...

                    Mutually hi
                    . On most of our UAVs with a radius of more than 100 km, the route is programmed and the information is recorded on the chip, which is extracted after landing ...

                    But nothing that this is a completely new UAV?
                    And why tell everyone what is installed on it?
                    1. +1
                      14 August 2019 14: 58
                      This is an Israeli clone that is morally obsolete ... And this year we will begin to release it completely from our parts .... I do not believe who makes the engine?
                      1. -1
                        14 August 2019 15: 03
                        Quote: VO3A
                        This is an Israeli clone that is morally obsolete

                        Body only
                        ... Initially, the drones were assembled from kits supplied by Israel. Since 2012, specialists from RTI Sistemy have been localizing drone production and gradually introducing Russian components.

                        Do you think there is something left of the original source?
                      2. 0
                        14 August 2019 15: 05
                        Yes, all the details were first received from the Jews, then they were mastered here, and so it was until this year, inclusive ...
                        https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Searcher
                  2. 0
                    14 August 2019 16: 34
                    ... Unmanned aerial vehicle "Forpost" (IAI Searcher Mk 2) from the squadron of unmanned aerial vehicles at the aviation base of the 45th Army of the Air Force and Air Defense of the Northern Fleet (c) "On guard of the Arctic"

                    . Unmanned aerial vehicles are designed for air reconnaissance. The use of UAVs provides a unique opportunity to instantly assess the situation when performing various combat and third-party tasks. Intelligence is carried out in real time, all received data is recorded and transmitted to command posts immediately.

                    Article 2016 of the year.
                    Of course, this is just text. What in reality I can not judge
                    1. +1
                      14 August 2019 17: 58
                      Intelligence is carried out in real time, all received data is recorded and transmitted to command posts immediately.

                      Well, the paper will endure everything ... We have people on the forum who served in these parts ... They basically agree with my conclusions ....
                      Well, suppose, conditionally, that this is how you write and data transmitted to command posts immediately..... And then what? Response time is how much? But the train left, or rather the ship sailed away ....
      2. +2
        14 August 2019 12: 40
        Actually 12 miles, not kilometers ...
        1. +1
          14 August 2019 12: 53
          Quote: Igor Borisov_2
          Actually 12 miles, not kilometers ...

          So forgive the land person. fellow
  2. +6
    14 August 2019 11: 25
    Well Well done you can’t say anything, a thing very necessary. And in Kaliningrad it is necessary, let them look after the Baltic.
    1. 0
      14 August 2019 12: 51
      It is in the kindergarten that they look after the children, and they put them on combat duty in the army ... Only the capabilities of these UAVs, or rather the systems into which they should be included, are zero .... Or rather, these systems simply do not exist ...
      1. +2
        14 August 2019 13: 13
        What systems are not? And then nothing is clear.
        1. -5
          14 August 2019 13: 15
          Network-centric ... The local network-centric system in the Black Sea at the Navy .... do not touch the air defense. .. UAVs are the main element of this system, without a system, UAV efficiency is 10 times less, we have even less ...
  3. +3
    14 August 2019 11: 46
    It’s normal if \ when they do everything wisely!
    1. -3
      14 August 2019 12: 42
      What is it like? It is enough to find out to whom this separate squadron and himself 318 ap obey. ? If it’s direct to the sailors - intellectually ... If in a circle through its headquarters and the headquarters of the ChVF, then it’s not normal .... I mean constant, not situational subordination ....
      1. +1
        14 August 2019 13: 28
        And why exactly to sailors?
        1. -4
          14 August 2019 13: 33
          Are you military? Or the former? Type of army? Title Degree?
          1. +2
            14 August 2019 15: 04
            Quote: VO3A
            Are you military? Or the former? Type of army? Title Degree?

            No. Curiosity. Why not the coastal troops?
            1. +3
              14 August 2019 15: 13
              Ask Gerasimov in the General Staff? To make it harder to work .... Separate regiments and squadrons of a drone is nonsense mare. UAVs must be part of those units to whom they give out information directly ... Otherwise, they don’t give out such information to anyone, but are used only to control combat use and review for window dressing ... Well, just like ours ....
      2. +3
        14 August 2019 13: 30
        Quote: VO3A
        What is it like? It is enough to find out to whom this separate squadron and 318 ap itself are subordinate. ?

        What to say? For a long time, I’m far from the topic .... so, I’m imagining a little!
        They’ll take it and do it, create an operational network center where all the information will come and where the teams will go from !!! All other military structures will be connected to the center for prompt resolution of issues and clear interaction !!! Yes, and in the very center to plant an object with AI elements (well, there isn’t yet a full-fledged AI, what would they not write there), a very smart, smart, memorable computer with Higher Order Function!!!
        Here I was dreaming ..... though, after all, there is nothing impossible! Moreover, it’s necessary to do just that, after all!
        1. 0
          14 August 2019 14: 00
          I’m with you. My Respect .... In principle, I agree, pi_dosov has done this for a long time .... AI doesn’t have to change operators too ... You just pointed out roughly how it should be .... Well we sit in the General Staff for idiots who cannot realize this simple thing when they understand and do it ... All this trash needs to be driven a lousy broom !!!
          1. +4
            14 August 2019 14: 29
            We are also doing it, building a structure! FVP computers also "train", prepare to be put into operation .... there is such data. Everything is secret! So it should, of course, if only it was done !!!
            And as always, my "pain". Production, radio-electronic industry, FULL-PRICE must be restored .... we can and my native plant "Ventilation systems wink laughing "They will restore me! I won't get there, but I teach my sons and children in that profile!"
            These are the "fans" we were!
        2. +2
          14 August 2019 14: 21
          Quote: rocket757
          They’ll take it and do it, create an operational network center where all the information will come and where the teams will go from !!!

          And why do you think the headquarters exist?
          1. 0
            14 August 2019 14: 44
            Quote: Lipchanin
            And why do you think the headquarters exist?

            Well, all the headquarters for the development of something more global, within the limits of their authority, strategy, plans, etc.! By the way, there automation helps in the work, too, is coming!
            The operational center, the operational headquarters, for making concrete decisions right now, bypassing all the approvals, within their tasks and competencies, most often it is VERY FAST and such tasks / solutions are already beginning to be trusted by automation, control computers with FVP!
            This is our reality and we must be prepared for that! According to standard situations, in processing a large amount of information, a person no longer catches up with a computer.
            It happens that he won ahead!
            1. 0
              14 August 2019 14: 58
              Quote: rocket757
              The operational center, the operational headquarters, for making concrete decisions right now, bypassing all the approvals, within their tasks and competencies, most often it is VERY FAST and such tasks / solutions are already beginning to be trusted by automation, control computers with FVP!

              My trouble is that I do not check what I am sending.
              So tired already.
              If I didn't miss one, but the main word is "Operational" and the question would have been settled
          2. +3
            14 August 2019 14: 51
            For the generals to sit there, make decisions for hours, and it’s important to blow brushes so that they feel warmer and tastier to eat ... They are also shown on TV ... And they also want systems that help them make decisions without leaving their seats ... Only here they have almost no ways of obtaining information about the combat situation, only people on the front who die for a grain of this information ....
            It's all the day before yesterday, now the decision needs to be taken instantly, in real time ... Headquarters, as such, are not needed, only to make a decision on the operation .... Its headquarters can no longer be managed ... These and the generals rest on their own horns and do not want to introduce advanced methods of modern warfare, where they have almost no place .... They must think how to win the war, and what needs to be done ... And combat operations must be controlled by operators of military information systems .... And these stupid generals, apparently do not know how to think, all ....
            1. 0
              14 August 2019 15: 13
              Quote: VO3A
              And these stupid generals, apparently do not know how to think, all ....

              Not worth it so RADICALLY !!!
              And who will give introductory notes for program developers ??? Operators, developers who have played a lot of computer shooters ... God forbid this!
              A real combat officer, an experienced staff officer, a talented tactician, and so on! It doesn't matter how "wide" his shoulder straps are, if a person has real, valuable combat experience! Mediocrity should not be allowed to such an important matter, this is understandable.
              Automation has already started, computer people are knocking on the keys !!!
              Nothing depends on anyone’s senior opinion! And the ballast flies from its place, too, with a whistle, not all, but many !!!
              This is the spirit of the times, no one can change it anymore!
              1. 0
                14 August 2019 15: 21
                The commander of a combat shift on duty at the control point of the Combat Information System with attached means of destruction in the rank of colonel within his position area, makes about 200 * 200 km instantly, in real time ... It should be so ... In Syria, for example .. ..and how long...
                1. +1
                  14 August 2019 15: 48
                  In the Northern Fleet, UAVs since 2013. Probably already experience interaction
                  1. 0
                    14 August 2019 17: 14
                    Like in Syria ... There is nothing, we can do nothing ... UAVs monitor the general situation not in real time basically and confirm the results of military operations ... What kind of interaction are you talking about?
                2. +4
                  14 August 2019 17: 24
                  Experience in Syria .... is very limited, there were a lot of stocks, despite the fact that our people worked efficiently ... as always, the system of management, control and self-will of some bosses fails.
                  Automation, of course, will not save you from everything, but it WILL BE ABLE to point out obvious errors, violations, fix, SELECT nonsense, some of the bosses! Either learn how to do everything as expected, everything is as it should, or on the fly, with a whistle!
                  Most importantly, this will help prevent stupid, criminal drug losses!
                  1. 0
                    14 August 2019 17: 34
                    Most importantly, this will help prevent stupid, criminal drug losses!

                    So this is the whole point ... New systems remove people from the line of fire, and allow you to win remotely ... Well, with pi_ndos it’s difficult, but in 3 countries ... We have everything, electronics already have enough, there is no understanding , no decisions, no knowledge of the military leadership, and especially in the General Staff ... There is a special department with the general .... What are they doing? In Moscow, the ass is heated and fat is being saved?

                    And they are people in Ratnik with Sagittarius and for slaughter, and the UAV will remove this slaughter ... But the generals know the pulse and pressure of the soldier and how many cartridges he has left ... And where he was killed .... How does this help to defeat and stay alive?
              2. 0
                14 August 2019 15: 34
                Not worth it so RADICALLY !!!

                It's worth it ... The Soviet Union collapsed because the army collapsed a little earlier ... The generals destroyed the army ... The word general in the SA in the late 90s corresponds to the concept of "shit" by 99,99% ... I was in Moscow at the All-Army Conference of Officers ...
                1. 0
                  14 August 2019 17: 16
                  A bad army is a product of a vicious system from above!
                  It always rots from the head, because the disorder at the bottom is ELIMINATED if everything above works clearly!
                  A clear hierarchy is understandable, effective, only control is needed from the bottom to the top !!! In the USSR, the system of control and correction of mistakes was destroyed, only stupid subordination!
                  The result is a disaster.
                  1. 0
                    14 August 2019 17: 24
                    And where are the simple officers? You know that after the collapse of the USSR, all units in Ukraine decided to maintain central subordination, and this decision was made in Vinnitsa at a meeting of delegates of all military units ... Not a single general was found in 3 military districts and in the armies who would lead this movement , and there were almost no colonels .... I was there ... Selling, stupid cattle ..... For a piece of fat and warm housing, these generals sold everything and their homeland ....
                    1. 0
                      14 August 2019 21: 00
                      Perhaps, the previous insult speaks in you ..... you will not get to the point and to the truth.
                    2. 0
                      15 August 2019 08: 00
                      Here in our region, one general heaped up, imagining himself a politician. I will not forget him wassat
                      Bad overall administrator out of it. I hope by vocation was better. Therefore, the surname should not be called. In order not to slander
  4. +1
    14 August 2019 12: 06
    The idea is good.
    Even great.
    But everything needs to be run in, brought to mind.
    Hopefully other regions will come.
    Kaliningrad is a must.
    1. -4
      14 August 2019 12: 48
      But everything needs to be run in, brought to mind.

      Is it just profanity? Give an example ... But I say not enough! I bet ... And not only quantity, but also quality ....
  5. -6
    14 August 2019 12: 12
    Quote: Russobel
    Well Well done you can’t say anything, a thing very necessary. And in Kaliningrad it is necessary, let them look after the Baltic.

    And thank Serdyukov?
    1. +1
      14 August 2019 12: 48
      Quote: RUSS

      And thank Serdyukov?

      Shamanov needs to say thanks
      1. -1
        14 August 2019 13: 15
        Do not wait wassat
      2. -6
        14 August 2019 13: 20
        For what ? Surname popular remembered? A singular phrasing method?
        1. -3
          14 August 2019 13: 27
          Quote: VO3A
          For what ? Surname popular remembered? A singular phrasing method?

          For the scandal committed by him in 2008.
          1. 0
            14 August 2019 13: 28
            More details and how does this relate to the topic?
      3. +2
        14 August 2019 13: 37
        For the purchase of the data of Serdyukov drones, only the lazy did not blame .... But in fact, thanks to him otherwise, this would not have been outdated ...
        1. 0
          14 August 2019 18: 14
          Well, this is a moot point ... Jewish UAVs work in Jewish weapon control systems ... We
          other weapons control systems ... This means that this UAV will not be able to enter such systems .... That means we will not have such systems at all, or we need to remake all the equipment under Jewish UAVs ... Last nonsense .... And we still do not have systems in which UAVs directly give target designation ....
          The Jews also made us with the help of Serdyukov ... Why thank him? Because we only bought a toy for ourselves and postponed the creation of direct target designation systems from UAVs for many years? So that he .... gets out ....
          1. 0
            14 August 2019 18: 35
            All the same, the brainstorming is great and the polemic is useful ... How Israeli UAVs can give us the exact coordinates of the target, if they work in someone else's GPS. they are still exported in the rugged civilian segment and they are positioning themselves in a foreign system too ... We can conclude that their accuracy is not enough for artillery systems .... Still worse, even in manual mode, these UAVs are useless for target designation ... Everyone clear? Any questions ? Who else believes that you can buy someone else's UAV for your army? So now it’s clear and why they buy shock drones ....
            1. +1
              14 August 2019 19: 45
              Do you think that our navigation systems in service do not use GPS?
              1. 0
                14 August 2019 19: 55
                Use, but not for target designation in automatic mode ....
              2. 0
                14 August 2019 20: 25
                Do not remind me in which year the purchase of scouts began, well, at the same time remind me of at least one unmanned system at least under development at that time.
                1. -1
                  14 August 2019 23: 54
                  https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Searcher

                  And what you yourself can not see?
                  1. 0
                    15 August 2019 05: 56
                    About the time of the purchase, I’m aware, but there was a second point to the question: well, at the same time remind me of at least one unmanned system at least under development at that time
  6. +1
    14 August 2019 17: 35
    Ukrainian media did not ignore the Outpost drones in Crimea and accuse Israel of making these drones by Russia ...
    1. 0
      15 August 2019 08: 11
      They still need to blame Ali-Express for selling quadrocopters to us

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