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In Ukraine, they decided to hold their own version of "Tank Biathlon"

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In Ukraine, they decided to give "their answer" to the international competitions in "Tank Biathlon", which are held in Russia. Ukrainian tank competitions began in the Chernihiv region.




There are no foreign crews in the Chernihiv region. But the operational commands of the armed forces of Ukraine itself are widely represented. So, the crews gathered at the Goncharovsky training ground tank subdivisions of 4 operational commands: "East", "West", "North", "South".
Officially, the competition was called a competition to identify the best tank crew of the Armed Forces.

Among the stages of the Ukrainian version of “Tank Biathlon” are “Sniper shooting” and “Relay race”. It is noted that Ukrainian tankers must hit targets at 1,4 and 1,7 km distances using high-explosive and cumulative shells. The best in "Sniper Shooting" were representatives of the operational command "North".

The peculiarity of the Ukrainian competition was that at one stage the tank crews left the armored vehicles and started the competition to carry boxes of ammunition and roll barrels of fuel and lubricants. Elements such as cable and spurs were also carried. It was not without running with a log.



Now the APU tank crews begin competitions in overcoming obstacles and maneuvering in the conditions of the range. In total, the competition of Ukrainian tankers will last for 5 days.
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Operational Command of the APU "North"
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  1. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 14 August 2019 09: 17
    -9
    Yeah. T-62 - 64 - those are machines too.
    1. private person
      private person 14 August 2019 09: 45
      +12
      What do you dislike about these cars? In experienced hands and, moreover, modernized vehicles that were good, they knew how to make tanks in the USSR.
    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 14 August 2019 09: 49
      +18
      Ukraine is not Russia laughing By God, like children!
      The whole essence of Ukraine is to oppose itself throughout Russia))
      1. 210ox
        210ox 14 August 2019 12: 00
        +1
        What children!? What are you speaking about? Cars are very good in experienced hands. I think that they didn’t send fools to the armless there.
    3. major071
      major071 14 August 2019 10: 03
      +6
      pafegosoff (Arkhip Pafegosov)
      Yeah. T-62 - 64 - those are machines too.


      Excellent tanks for their time, and only 62, so in general. At our tank school there was Major Kirpichenok, who passed through Afghanistan, and so he called the T-62 "Swallow", which saved many lives.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 14 August 2019 10: 11
        0
        I don’t see anything funny ..
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 14 August 2019 10: 19
          +3
          Quote: Aerodrome
          I don’t see anything funny ..

          Yes, it would be better if they fooled into foolishness and came to our tank biathlon for other military contests, that's where you need to measure something! hi
      2. Lyapis
        Lyapis 14 August 2019 10: 58
        +5
        Excellent tanks for their time, and only 62, so in general. At our tank school there was Major Kirpichenok, who passed through Afghanistan, and so he called the T-62 "Swallow", which saved many lives.

        Key phrase "for its time". By the end of the second decade of the 80st century, the ersatz modernizations of these machines look good only against an enemy who was also stuck somewhere in the XNUMXs of the last century.
      3. mvg
        mvg 14 August 2019 12: 47
        -1
        and already 62, so in general

        tell the Jews that .. they somehow didn’t notice that the T-62 was fighting against them .. they rolled out the same way as the T-54 / 55
        1. svp67
          svp67 15 August 2019 06: 25
          0
          Quote: mvg
          tell the Jews that .. they somehow didn’t notice that the T-62 was fighting against them .. they rolled out the same way as the T-54 / 55

          Not a very good example. And not what, that the Israelis for a long time and that and that tank (T-55 and T-62) used the same, someone "rolled" them?
          1. mvg
            mvg 15 August 2019 09: 36
            +2
            But nothing that the Israelis for a long time and that and that tank (T-55 and T-62)

            Sergey, in 1967 Israel captured an Arab 820 tank, in 1973 another 1500 T-54/55/62 tanks, in 1982 another 400 .. of which a good percentage are quite operational .. up to 50%. And what about them, for remelting .. They modernized and fought .. but not in the forefront. This is a worldwide practice, during the years of the Second World War both ours and the Germans did not shy away from trophies. You know this story better than me.
            At that time, the T-62 was a completely modern tank, while it was delivered to Egypt not in the export version, but in the most military one ... urgently, from the reserves of the Soviet army. They changed the connection, the LMS, set the DZ and voila .. From the T-55 turned out to be a heavy infantry fighting vehicle.
            https://grimnir74.livejournal.com/6492005.html
    4. mvg
      mvg 14 August 2019 12: 45
      +2
      Yeah .. I don’t know anything, but I write ..
    5. svp67
      svp67 14 August 2019 16: 07
      +1
      Quote: pafegosoff
      Yeah. T-62 - 64 - those are machines too.

      This is generally a completely different machine. And what are your complaints about each of them? Announce
  2. Pedrodepackes
    Pedrodepackes 14 August 2019 09: 18
    -1
    The peculiarity of the Ukrainian competition was that at one stage the tank crews left the armored vehicles and began to compete in carrying boxes of ammunition and rolling barrels of fuel and lubricants.
    Now the APU tank crews begin competitions in overcoming obstacles and maneuvering in the conditions of the range.
    also on foot, like "on foot on horseback"?
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 09: 48
      +1
      Quote: Pedrodepackes
      also on foot, like "on foot on horseback"?

      Well, something like this lol
      1. Alex_You
        Alex_You 14 August 2019 10: 39
        0
        Oh, this "Desna". laughing
      2. igorbrsv
        igorbrsv 14 August 2019 13: 54
        0
        It may be so.
        But it looks funny laughing
        I thought at first they would just "get under way" they would "teach", and they would be straight into the "flight" laughing
        And no exhaust
        1. Slavenin82
          Slavenin82 14 August 2019 16: 29
          0
          There is an exhaust! It’s just not visible ... laughing
      3. 210ox
        210ox 14 August 2019 14: 13
        +1
        Well, so "the tanks are going diamond" .... Although I think that they will still be put behind military vehicles ..
      4. svp67
        svp67 14 August 2019 16: 08
        +1
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Well, something like this

        So what? I can upset you, and this is how we trained earlier. It is called "peshe by tank".
  3. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 14 August 2019 09: 20
    +8
    It is better for Banderas to conduct test shooting from the Hammer mortar for fascist formations such as Azov and so on. Discharge, so to speak, the number of stoned horns to reasonable limits! yes
  4. usr01
    usr01 14 August 2019 09: 22
    +1
    I imagine this in horror .... (especially after the complete failure in NATO ..) Well, why shame ???
    1. private person
      private person 14 August 2019 09: 51
      +3
      How do you imagine a tank developed in the USSR in the NATO den will defeat their tank? Yes, this is some kind of anti-advertising, so it was originally intended to show the superiority of NATO tanks.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 09: 56
      +1
      Quote: usr01
      I imagine this in horror .... (especially after the complete failure in NATO ..) Well, why shame ???

      And imagine that the Tribals will arrange "Aviadarts" lol
  5. Ferdinant
    Ferdinant 14 August 2019 09: 26
    +11
    Rolling and selling barrels with fuel. So it’s probably more correct, this is the point of the exercise.
  6. sgr291158
    sgr291158 14 August 2019 09: 29
    +1
    They also forgot to include who will throw more glasses.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 August 2019 09: 30
    +6
    Are they jealous? This is good ... Let’s do something more useful than bullet through the cities and towns of LDNR.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 14 August 2019 12: 36
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Let them do something more useful than bullet around the cities and towns of LDNR.

      Digging an anti-tank ditch from lunch to sunset, along the "Wall of Yaytsenyukh"
  8. Sovpadenie
    Sovpadenie 14 August 2019 09: 32
    -1
    Best of the worst?
  9. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 14 August 2019 09: 40
    0
    Now at least they have something to write off the sold fuel and lubricants. They arranged another clowning, another thing happened if the NATO countries took part in it, there at least it was possible to evaluate all the minuses and pluses.
  10. demo
    demo 14 August 2019 09: 42
    +1
    The devil is the monkey of the Lord God.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 09: 50
      -2
      Quote: demo
      The devil is the monkey of the Lord God.

  11. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 14 August 2019 09: 47
    +4
    I am far from a supporter of today's Ukraine, but the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have engaged in "plagiarism" from the Russian tank biathlon do not see any connection. Our TB is, first of all, marketing competitions (I did not say that - Shoigu), but the fact that such competitions have begun to be held in Ukraine is an indicator of insufficient "enthusiasm" for mastering the personnel to improve their professional level. If we compare what the Ukrainian tankers are doing now, then we must compare it with the socialist competition in the Soviet army, which was held to increase the motivation of servicemen to improve their INDIVIDUAL (COLLECTIVE - crew) skill. Combat skills were perfected at training grounds. So it turns out: FORWARD - BACK IN THE USSR)))
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 14 August 2019 09: 56
      -1
      Quote: Vitaliy Tsymbal
      I am far from a supporter of today's Ukraine, but the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have engaged in "plagiarism" from the Russian tank biathlon do not see any connection. Our TB is, first of all, marketing competitions (I did not say that - Shoigu), but the fact that such competitions have begun to be held in Ukraine is an indicator of insufficient "enthusiasm" for mastering the personnel to improve their professional level. If we compare what the Ukrainian tankers are doing now, then we must compare it with the socialist competition in the Soviet army, which was held to increase the motivation of servicemen to improve their INDIVIDUAL (COLLECTIVE - crew) skill. Combat skills were perfected at training grounds. So it turns out: FORWARD - BACK IN THE USSR)))


      So in Ukraine, the simple basics of military art were lost after 1991. I agree with you. But these are belated measures, and not effective in the conditions in which Ukraine is today: the state of the economy, industry, population, etc. I am already silent about the modern methods of war after 1991. Roughly speaking, such competitions in Ukraine could have been held even under Kuchma, but less desirable already in the XNUMXs under Yanukovych. In any case, in the form as presented here. A marketing move from Russia, these are generally army games. But separately, the same training of personnel in each military district, adjusted for modern methods of warfare. The same "Syrian shaft" as an element of modern local warfare.
      1. Vitaly Tsymbal
        Vitaly Tsymbal 14 August 2019 11: 14
        +1
        Nobody knows exactly what the future war will be like. And this is not due to ignorance, but from the fact that another revolution is taking place in the development of weapons and military equipment (from arrows and catapults to firearms, from armored vehicles firearms to nuclear missiles, from nuclear missiles to hypersound and artificial intelligence ... ) - therefore the old (proven by wars) is combined with the new. This situation is natural during a period of change. And tactics (we are not talking about strategy or operational art) today are formed on the experience and features of local combat of collisions with an obviously weaker and less technically equipped enemy. Afghan (our Afghan, not NATO's) launched a new tactic, which is now used by both sides in local conflicts, only sometimes many army minds do not understand that in Afghanistan we were not tasked with waging war and defeating the enemy, we were tasked not to miss and Afghan armed gangs (by the way, many of these gangs were trained no worse than Soviet soldiers and higher than the Afghan state army). The basis of our military strategy in Afghanistan can be called active defense, not offensive ... That is why we see contests like "dragging the log" - not really in the current Ukrainian tank on the car there is no log for itself to pull out, or carrying boxes of ammunition - replenishment of the tank with ammunition occurs in the rear (with rare exceptions) and is carried out by transporting ammunition to tanks on vehicles, and not manually at a distance of 50-100 meters)))
    2. Antares
      Antares 14 August 2019 23: 03
      -1
      Quote: Vitaly Tsymbal
      I am far from being a supporter of today's Ukraine, but the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine engaged in "plagiarism" from the Russian tank biathlon do not see any connection

      Well, you should familiarize yourself with TB and Ukrainian exercises. There is plagiarism from the European.
      The fact that the authors shove the very idea that in Ukraine they are cosplaying with the Russian Federation is interesting but incorrect. Similar competitions in Ukraine are not the first year, they are cosplaying the EU. Winners of Ukrainian competitions participate in similar events in Europe.
      There is almost no similarity as the EU and the Moscow.
      It’s not the first time that the brigade on T64 defeats the Marines on the T80 .. True, with a change on the T80 they get worse.
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 14 August 2019 09: 48
    +9

    Bandera - Bandera, decommunization - decommunization, but you can’t drink the genetic memory! wassat
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: Amateur
      Bandera - Bandera, decommunization - decommunization, but you can’t drink the genetic memory!

      I like it more. laughing
  13. Ham
    Ham 14 August 2019 09: 52
    +1
    they would have spent "Zarnitsa"
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 August 2019 09: 52
    +1
    The best in "Sniper Shooting" were representatives of the operational command brigade "North"
    It turns out that Belarusians should think about it? So Belarusians show themselves excellently in our tank biathlon. The fact that the Ukrainians still decided to host the competition (trying to copy the Russian, whatever they say there) indicates that they understood the main thing - these competitions help to gain experience and improve skills.
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 14 August 2019 10: 35
      +3
      Yes, it’s not a copy of TB, these competitions are regularly held from 14 years on to the best tank crew of Ukraine.
      1. Antares
        Antares 14 August 2019 23: 08
        0
        Quote: Alex_You
        Yes, it’s not a copy of TB, these competitions are regularly held from 14 years on to the best tank crew of Ukraine.

        can lead cutting

        Kryvyi Rih were the strongest.
  15. Langf
    Langf 14 August 2019 09: 57
    0
    I can already imagine how, after a short time, the brothers with unique and only correct, ideologically verified logic will prove to us from our own screens that the tank biathlon is the brainchild of the Zaporizhzhya Sich, impudently undermined Shoigu. Don’t go to the grandmother!
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 11: 12
      -1
      Quote: Langf
      that tank biathlon is the brainchild of Zaporizhzhya Sich,

      And if you dig deeper, then the Sumerians ran with bows and shot from them at moving targets.
  16. ultra
    ultra 14 August 2019 10: 07
    -1
    It’s just not clear why they’re not running in field form. request
    1. Alex_You
      Alex_You 14 August 2019 10: 37
      0
      In the field, just without a tunic.
  17. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 14 August 2019 10: 08
    +2
    How tired of this ragulsky nonsense.
  18. Yrec
    Yrec 14 August 2019 10: 14
    +2
    Carrying logs and rolling barrels are five! The next step will be to disassemble the tank and drag it to the metal receiving point at speed.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 14 August 2019 11: 13
      -2
      Quote: Yrec
      The next step will be to disassemble the tank and drag it to the metal receiving point at speed.

      Then at the same speed to fade home
  19. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 14 August 2019 10: 19
    +4
    Prize for victory - sending to the ATO! laughing
  20. Prisoner
    Prisoner 14 August 2019 11: 10
    -1
    And why with a log? what Why should a tanker carry a log? Under the tank enclose? winked
  21. Forest
    Forest 14 August 2019 11: 19
    -1
    Selpo. However, wherever liberals come to power, they become so.
  22. Moore
    Moore 14 August 2019 11: 21
    +3
    It was not without running with a log.

    It was also possible to pull the tow rope and throw a tracked track at a range. Cheap and cheerful.
  23. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 14 August 2019 13: 36
    0
    . tank units of 4 operational commands: "East", "West", "North", "South".

    wassat and Army Group Center did not arrive wassat
    So that everything is like the Wehrmacht
  24. georggy
    georggy 14 August 2019 14: 10
    -1
    [quoteIn Ukraine, they decided to give "their answer" to international competitions in "Tank Biathlon"] [/ quote]
    Clearly, extra money appeared.
  25. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 August 2019 14: 19
    -1
    Those two with a log would not be killed. And where do tankers run with logs, does anyone know?
  26. Evil 55
    Evil 55 14 August 2019 15: 54
    -1
    I would understand if within the framework of the competition the stages of evacuating the tanks in cases of complex jams were gone .. so there is no log to carry, roll barrels .. Another nonsense, in general, in ukrovermaht ..
  27. APASUS
    APASUS 14 August 2019 16: 56
    -1
    Why do we have to do everything in response to the actions of Russia? What kind of curve logic is this? Build your own aircraft, conduct training, compete, participate in other competitions
    1. Antares
      Antares 14 August 2019 23: 16
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Why do we have to do everything in response to the actions of Russia? What kind of curve logic is this? Build your own aircraft, conduct training, compete, participate in other competitions

      only in the Russian Federation they decided that it was cosplay of the Russian Federation.
      Spend since 2014 Cosplay Tank Challenge EU.
      The official name is the Best Tank Crew of Ukraine.
      If we find the source of someone who cosplay then everyone cosplay
      Trophy of the Canadian Army.
      And TB is far from the first cosplay.
      Questions to the authors of news about Ukraine - they are more profitable for such gags in the news. Like Ukrainians decided how to conduct in the Russian Federation. In fact, they have long been carrying out their own (EU cosplay) without the Russian Federation and have nothing in common with LTE and TB.
  28. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 14 August 2019 17: 38
    0
    Yes, how can you copy the tank biathlon that the Russian Federation came up with a country that you will not see? there’s no conscience. Think of your games, for example, who is the first to eat a BIG piece of fat laughing
  29. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 14 August 2019 23: 37
    0
    Supplement the competition with the following disciplines.
    Eating fat inside the tank when maneuvering.
    Theft of fuel while the tank is moving.
    Selling a tank and ammunition, on time.