In Kiev, they said that they “had every right” to shut off water to Crimea

Ukraine did not block the Dnieper River, but blocked the canal supplying water to the Crimean peninsula, to which it has "full right", said Anton Korinevich, Permanent Representative of the President of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, in his Facebook account.

According to Korinevich, the Dnieper River does not flow through the territory of Crimea, and water was supplied there through a canal belonging to Ukraine. Kiev “has every right” to block this technical structure, since it belongs to Ukraine. He emphasized that on the peninsula "there are no problems with water", it is enough for the needs of the population.

The Dnieper River does not flow through the territory of Crimea. Ukraine did not block the Dnieper River, but blocked the technological structure (channel), which is located on the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine has every right to do so. The occupying state should itself be responsible for providing the occupied territory with all necessary resources.

- declared Korinevich.

Earlier, Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers - Permanent Representative of Crimea under the President of Russia, Georgy Muradov, said that Kiev, having blocked the flow of water to the Crimea in the 2014, violated international law regulating the flow of rivers such as the Dnieper. According to him, the Dnieper River takes its roots in the territory of Russia and flows through the territory of three states, being a river of international importance, and not Ukrainian, as they say in Kiev.

The Dnieper River flows in Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Therefore, it is international. By the logic of things, the water that flows from Russia to Ukraine cannot be blocked by Ukraine, even for reclamation facilities in another subject of the Russian Federation. (...) there is international law governing the flow of international rivers

- he said.

Meanwhile, in Crimea itself it was stated that there is currently no problem with water on the peninsula, but it exists on the territory of Ukraine, where a gradual flooding of the Kherson region began due to the closure of the canal.

Comments

[Palomnik]

Russia also had and has every right to block gas and other things on the outskirts .. But we are not doing this? There are people there, the same pensioners, etc.
And you continue to brazenly steal gas and still insulting us all in every possible way .. (I generally keep quiet about Donbass)

[Orkraider]

Can Russia also begin to build technical structures, for example, on the Desna River, create another reservoir and a canal from it, to feed other rivers ..
And then talk about the right to overlap it)))
It's a joke of course, but every joke has some sense.
In general, this statement can and should be submitted to the UN Security Council.

..the Dnieper River does not flow through the territory of Crimea, and water was supplied there through a canal belonging to Ukraine. Kiev has a full right to overlap this technical structure, since it belongs to Ukraine.

[Holgerton]

So the fact of the matter is that you basically don’t understand how the North Crimean Canal is structured, it’s not a construction on the river, it is an artificial branch towards the Crimea, but if you make, as you suggest, a reservoir on the Desna River, then it will already be violation of international law claimed by the Russian side.

[Orkraider]

You do not understand, I suggest making a branch

this is not a structure on the river, this is a branch to the side

One or a couple)))
For example, to feed the Oka River, there now the river near Serpukhov has become non-navigational and just does not interfere, raise a couple of meters. And it’s technically possible to carry out a canal to the Oka River, there’s only about 159 km if laying along the channels of old rivers ...
And one more branch to make for the cascade of dams, a place can be found)))
This is not a violation, no?

[Holgerton]

There is a regulated flow volume of international rivers, to which the Russian side referred, which is indicated in international law, according to it there is a certain amount of annual flow that can be selected by the state, taking into account the existing needs of Russia, I think it is most likely already in operation if not completely.

[yehat]

In general, China scored on such violations - it took water from the Amur, Angara, Yenisei, took international laws from Vietnam and the drum.

[Aleksandr12]

Excuse me, but how did China take water from the Angara? The river flows completely through the territory of Russia. And one more moment, how did the evil Chinese reach Yenisei?

[yehat]

tourists drank

[Astra wild]

A colleague probably skipped geography at school?

[Serg koma]

Quote: Alexander12

The river flows completely through the territory of Russia.

Small clarification

The Amur River basin is located within three states - Russia (995 thousand km², about 54% of the territory), also China (44,2%) and Mongolia (1,8%).

[Vitas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEaZ9Qa5rN0&t=1516s
We listen to specialists and do not write nonsense.

[Old bun]

Quote: Vitas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEaZ9Qa5rN0&t=1516s
We listen to specialists and do not write nonsense.

Read literature better. do not look at all ..

[Vitas]

If for you, Doctor of Geographical Sciences, a hydraulic engineer is an empty place ... then I have nothing to say.

[Mic1969]

Well, for whom is Medovar a hydraulic engineer ...

[Peresvet_54]

bye, but someone lives in Crimea, or is it just the area "temporarily occupied". I think that most people do not need to understand how this channel works, and it is not particularly interesting. The key meaning in this case is "Ukraine closed the water supply channel." And people live there. And if Ukraine understands this only as one of the ways to harm Russia, then such a policy and those who make such decisions are worthless. In this way, Crimea will never be returned.
Yes, Russia spent a lot of money (including mine) on the construction of the bridge, and on the possibility of providing water to the people of Crimea. But personally, I am proud of what Russia has done, namely, helped people.

[tracer]

"-Can we bang"
- "we certainly bang, but then".
Quote from a good movie.

[Holgerton]

For people, there was always enough water in the Crimea from local wells and sources, but another thing is that for enterprises and, so to speak, the infrastructure of useful "excesses" is not enough, especially for enterprises of heavy industry and fields with crops.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Holgerton

now if you make, as you suggest, a reservoir on the Desna River, then this will already be a violation of international law

What international law are you talking about? Probably about the one that allowed to stop the flow of email. energy to the Crimea, thereby endangering millions of lives, maybe about the one that allowed shutting off water and railway traffic? Juntyats, these are wolves, they must be lined up and destroyed!
Mattresses spit on this international law when it comes to the question of their national interests, you can learn from them!

[Sapsan136]

And what will you do? Declare war on us? Go ahead and with the song! Let's see how much you fight! Surely, no more than a day, like your heroes from the SS division Nakhtigal Galichina ... And then we'll see where your Ukraine is and where it is not, was not and is not necessary ... ALL of your Ukraine is on the map of 1654, within the borders of which You came to Russia from Poland! There and dispose!

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: Orkraider

Russia also begin to build technical facilities, for example on the Desna River

It is necessary to build a dam in the Trubchevsk region in order to redirect water back to Nerussa and then through a very short channel to the Oka basin. There is a very small difference in elevation, even locks will not be needed, only inexpensive shore protection works. The implementation of the project is urgently required. This is the most effective way of developing the Bryansk region, the Oryol region, ... But the Dnieper and other tributaries will be enough.
PS. For the project, even special environmental assessments are not required, because the indicated waterway existed in antiquity and was navigable.

[210ox]

Do not be like. By the way, the same Desna, like Sozh and the Dnieper itself, flows from the Smolensk region through Belarus. Yes, it will cause problems in the regions. And in the same Desnogorsk, where the nuclear power plant.

[Orkraider]

Quote: 210ox

Do not be like. By the way, the same Desna, like Sozh and the Dnieper itself, flows from the Smolensk region through Belarus. Yes, it will cause problems in the regions. And in the same Desnogorsk, where the nuclear power plant.

If the project is implemented, then only after Desnogorsk. On the line Bryansk-Oryol. At one time there was a canal project on the Nerussa River. The selection was planned no more than 200 m3 / s. And by the way, this decision strengthened the runoff of Pripyat, which drains the swamps of Belarus. By the way, for Belarus this is a plus.

Naturally, the selection of 200 cubes does not drain the Dnieper, but this can not be done, otherwise an environmental disaster. But blackmail and force to open a channel to the Crimea is possible. Plus, the problem of the Middle Volga can be solved by this.

[igor67]

[quote = 210q] No need to be like. By the way, the same Desna, like Sozh and the Dnieper itself, flows from the Smolensk region through Belarus. Yes, it will cause problems in the regions. And in the same Desnogorsk, where the nuclear power plant. [/ The Kursk atomic river on the Seim river flows through the Sumy and Chernihiv regions, a puddle remains from the river, the Seim flows into the Desna, there is no spill for many years,

[Mic1969]

And I said a long time ago: to negotiate with the Belarusians, hire famous seafarers, dig the Belarusian sea, dam all the rivers flowing to Ukraine, from the sea water pipelines to the Kuban, from the Kuban to the Crimea. And everybody wins. The Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory have water, Belarus has a sea, and from the excavated soil pour mountains in the Rostov Region.

[Sky strike fighter]

But we do not do this? There are people there, the same pensioners, etc.

Which are held hostage under the guidance of dubious individuals who are in the power of Ukraine. This largely explains the limitations on the impact on presumptuous specimens.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Let's be honest. Even if the Dnieper did not flow through Belarus, our government would not block the channel. Since June 1, we seem to have sanctions on fuel and lubricants for Ukraine, but I didn’t hear that there was a deficit or a hyper rise in price in Ukraine from June 1 to June 2019.
Moreover, I am almost sure that from January 1 to 2020, gas transit through Ukraine will continue. So what is there to comment on? The words of a regional Crimean official, if even after Medvedev’s words across Ukraine with a menacing face, nothing has changed?

[Avior]

This is ridiculous, but since June 1, gasoline in Ukraine has become cheaper.
That is, either they continue to supply, or there are other channels and someone instead of Russian companies makes money on supplies

[Kent0001]

Loot is a priority among traders, and always.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

On June 1, sanctions against Ukraine on fuel and lubricants, but I did not hear something that there was a deficit or hyper rise in price in Ukraine from June 1, 2019.

There Old Man fussed with supplies.

[g1v2]

But coal supplies fell sharply. They say that 80 percent. Reserves at Ukrainian power plants are extremely low. To metallurgists too not to clear up.

Of course, we need gas transit, as Europe consumes it more and even Nord Stream2 will not completely cover its needs. But there is no critical dependence.
Well, about the Crimean Channel, so here I am for power methods. Of course, you can drill wells, but in my opinion, salinization of soils will intensify. The gateway can be destroyed by one strong explosion. You can rocket, you can send an underwater saboteur. And then say that we do not know what happened. Let them prove it. Drunken pravoseki undermined or failed test of the Ukrainian rocket Neptune - one hundred pounds. And to hint that in case of restoration of the gateway - a repeat is possible.

[Avior]

In fact, Ukraine has not been buying Russian gas for several years.

[Sky strike fighter]

She buys it from Western partners who bought it in Russia, and therefore it seems like the gas is not Russian, which means you can buy and be proud that Ukraine does not buy gas directly from Russia. Only through intermediaries. And here it’s.

[Avior]

And what do you think Europe will block the gas in Gazprom?

[VO3A]

There is a Belarusian branch, at the state level they talked about the reorientation of flows, and not overlapping, and only for safety only, the Bandera pipe is worn out ....

[Simargl]

Quote: Avior

In fact, Ukraine has not been buying Russian gas for several years.

Buys Russian.
But not in Russia.

[yehat]

so they did the same thing before the collapse of the USSR, they only stole at the level of distribution of republican budgets, investments of the ministerial level and prices on offsets.
and the attitude of Ukrainians towards Russians in the 80s was like suckers - I saw this in personal communication,
moreover, the carriers of this position were not young, but people born in the 50s.
To understand how this theft occurred, compare, for example, the supply of equipment to an ordinary collective farm / state farm of a similar scale in Ukraine and somewhere near Tula or Krasnoyarsk.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Palomnik

Russia also had and has every right to block gas and other things on the outskirts ..

"Ukraine did not block the channel of the Dnieper River, but blocked a technological structure (canal) located on the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine has every right to do this." It is said patriotically, in Ukrainian. Only Korinevich forgot one thing - the Dnieper river flows first through the territory of Russia (beginning in the Tver region), and only then through Ukraine. And with a strong desire, you can calmly turn the waters of the Dnieper to Ukraine, for this Russia also has "every right". Don't dig a hole for your neighbor, you'll fall yourself.

[revnagan]

Quote: Palomnik

Russia also had and has every right to block gas and other things on the outskirts.

You wanted to say to Ukraine? Well, if Russia has such a right, let it take advantage of it. Apparently, it can’t, right? Because then European consumers will remain without gas and ... PMR. So Russia does not block gas by no means out of great love to the people of Ukraine and unfortunate Ukrainian pensioners. In addition, Ukraine formally does not buy gas from Russia, but from Europe. And you continue to slander and unprovenly slander Ukraine that it is stealing your gas. And Russia is pumping gas and oil from the Ukrainian shelf from the help of Ukrainian drilling, thereby inflicting Ukrainian UDGET enormous damage on their skin feel Ukrainian pensionery.Vot you look with Ukrainian storony.Po my opinion, there is no abuse, and only the truth.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Quote: revnagan

Quote: Palomnik

Russia also had and has every right to block gas and other things on the outskirts.

You wanted to say to Ukraine? Well, if Russia has such a right, let it take advantage of it. Apparently, it can’t, right? Because then European consumers will remain without gas and ... PMR. So Russia does not block gas by no means out of great love to the people of Ukraine and unfortunate Ukrainian pensioners. In addition, Ukraine formally does not buy gas from Russia, but from Europe. And you continue to slander and unprovenly slander Ukraine that it is stealing your gas. And Russia is pumping gas and oil from the Ukrainian shelf from the help of Ukrainian drilling, thereby inflicting Ukrainian UDGET enormous damage on their skin feel Ukrainian pensionery.Vot you look with Ukrainian storony.Po my opinion, there is no abuse, and only the truth.

Where was your honesty on the Maidan in 2014 and the onset of Galician culture in the rest of Ukraine? Would your towers Boyko and further formally Ukrainian. A wise guy was found. Your destiny, to ruin everything.

[revnagan]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Where was your honesty on the Maidan in 2014 and the onset of Galician culture in the rest of Ukraine?

Maybe you shouldn't "poke", eh? And tone down a little. I remember "Nevsky" for a long time. And wasn't this "Nevsky" who supported the Maydaun back in 2004? Oh, yes, then he regained his sight, repented and moved to Russia .And we were worried about how he, the poor thing, escaped the tenacious paws of the SBU. And now, I see, they came to life, right? And are ready to denounce the vile Galician people in the new Motherland, right? And for some reason you decided to fight the Galician culture in absentia, because of border, nobly provided the opportunity to fight the usurpers to someone else. "You go, and I will avenge you. Then." Only here byada-byada: if you open my posts arr. 2014, you will see that I have never supported either the first or the second maydown. However, unlike some, I did not flee from my land under the onslaught of the Galician culture, but stayed here, and I try to resist as best I can with my modest capabilities. And you shouted so loudly about the irreconcilable struggle against the Bandera that at first I even believed. until you (YOU!) recognized this government as "the best choice of the Ukrainian people" and "our Ukrainian partners." Russia decided to fight not with Bandera and their oligarchic sponsors, but with Ukraine, squeezing state property, territory, resources. But the property of one of the main murderers of Donbass in Russia worked and works. And none of their leaders of the junta under strange circumstances not perish.Takaya here is an irreconcilable struggle, aha.And what, it's convenient, under the shouts of "you have Bandera there!" Russian oligarchs can rob Ukraine. The pretext is a plausible pretext. Russia, in principle, does not need another government in Ukraine. After all, it is enough to declare that the towers have been squeezed out of the fight against the Bandera, and order. And if there is a normal leadership in Ukraine, then Under what pretext "cut"? Really so? Therefore, once again I suggest, slow down, d'Artagnan you are anecdotny. Yes, and at the expense of the collapse, look back at your new homeland and see if you are walking along the same road. And then blame the Ukrainians.

[vadim dok]

Ukraine DOES NOT receive Russian gas! There is ONLY TRANSIT of gas to Europe!

[Lord of the Sith]

What can I say, Ukraine is an incompetent terrorist who is even ready to kill her own citizens for dubious slogans and the ability to wash pots in Europe.

[Major Yurik]

The zoological Russophobia of hohlobandera multiplied by their sharp thievery and led to the closure of the channel to the Crimea. These last Bandera, most likely, later wanted to take money for supplying water through the canal, but they flew by, costing in Crimea even without their water handouts!

[Avior]

Do you think the canal water is free? There are pumping stations and stuff

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

Do you think the canal water is free? There are pumping stations and stuff

In principle, no one refused to pay for the supply of water, however, like electricity. Ukraine itself has consistently deprived itself of sources of financial resources. Oil pipeline and ammonia pipeline stopped. Next in line is the stop of gas transit through its territory. Everything that Ukraine inherited from the USSR was dismantled and plundered, and what could not fit in a pocket (gas pipeline, channel, power transmission line) was used brainlessly and not rationally. An artificial territorial entity led by idiots cannot act and think according to the state, and therefore, everything that it does not turns against it. Characteristically, in an effort to slander Crimea, the ukrokhunta slandered the Kherson region, but if Russia solves the Crimean problem, Ukraine does not even try to solve the problem of the Kherson region.

[AUL]

Meanwhile, in Crimea itself it was stated that there is currently no problem with water on the peninsula, but it exists on the territory of Ukraine, where a gradual flooding of the Kherson region began due to the closure of the canal.

To spite grandmother I will frostbite my ears ...

[Holgerton]

The most interesting thing is that in the Kherson media, on the contrary, they talked about low water levels and noticed that there was more water last year and only a couple of references to floods, and when the water rose again, they began to report that there was a lot of water, just looked at the tape for spring and summer, coincidence?

[Sky strike fighter]

The Dnieper originates in Russia. So we also have the right. Or block the Dnieper on the border of Belarus and Ukraine. Belarus is not to blame for anything. What will the wits from Ukraine say to this?

[Holgerton]

That Russia violates international law, the violation of which she herself claims, but in fact does not give any confirmation of the violation since the North Crimean Canal is not a construction on the river, it is an artificial branch towards the Crimea.
Such are the cases.

[Old bun]

a violation of which she herself claims, but in fact does not give any confirmation of the violation, since the North Crimean Canal is not a construction on the river, it is an artificial branch towards the Crimea.
Such are the cases.

closing the channel - shut off the water supply, which is a violation.
and Russia can do so, without blocking the tributaries, but by making a canal and taking the main stream of water into it, leaving a miserable old channel.
Who do you want to fool with these statements? the conclusion begs

That Russia violates international law

what already directly violates? or is it a dream?

[Holgerton]

Firstly, from the side of international law, to which the Russian side appeals, there are no violations, since the channel is owned by Ukraine, and do not try to make me look like some kind of evil uncle, I consider the problem from the same side with which the Russian side does it , namely international law.
In addition, Crimeans live in peace and do not suffer from drought, they rather have problems with "Good mood, hold on!" ©
Secondly, regarding:

what already directly violates? or is it a dream?

That it’s you yourself, you came up with something and came up with in your little world, I answered the comment of the person above.
Third,

There is a regulated flow volume of international rivers, to which the Russian side referred, which is indicated in international law, according to it there is a certain amount of annual flow that can be selected by the state, taking into account the existing needs of Russia, I think it is most likely already in operation if not completely.

And again, for people in Crimea it is more than enough to even cover most needs, so I can’t quite understand the reason for the indignation of the Permanent Representative of the Council of Ministers.

[Holgerton]

Either Belarus does not comply with international law, but in any case, Crimea already covers its water needs, for the most part humanitarian, and for the rest of the industries, taking into account the subsidies invested in Crimea, a huge number of desalination plants could be built there, but

"You hold on"

[Piramidon]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

The Dnieper originates in Russia. So we also have the right.

And all the rivers that flow into the Dnieper, also block?

[Orkraider]

Enough to drive Desna and there will already be a disaster. Although a small amount to take and redirect along the old channel of Nerussa to Oka is real, and then blackmail Ukraine with the opportunity to take more ..
But no one will do this for us, because it is fraught with environmental disaster.

[Sapsan136]

Water needs to be diverted to the Volga, there is not enough water there ... and there will be no environmental disaster in the Russian Federation

[Orkraider]

Quote: Sapsan136

Water needs to be diverted to the Volga, there is not enough water there ... and there will be no environmental disaster in the Russian Federation

So directing water to the Oka, then you will inevitably fall into the Volga, since it is its largest right tributary

I did not speak about trouble in terms of direct impact. No one can predict the consequences of global changes, for example: if you take a lot of water from the Desna, a shallowing of the Kiev reservoir will occur, and there at the bottom there will be a lot of radioactive sludge, which, by the way, contains cesium and strontium. What can it bring and how do you know the wind rose spreads? I don’t know, but I suppose, looking at the map of pollution from Chernobyl, that the wind will not bring us anything good. Therefore, I wrote above about the volume of water withdrawal, which is possible. And most likely, the real one is even less than indicated.

[Sapsan136]

This is not our problem. The USSR is no more, and independent Ukraine must solve the problems on its territory itself. Let that headache in Kiev, local literate.

[Dym71]

Meanwhile, in Crimea itself it was stated that there is currently no problem with water on the peninsula, but it exists on the territory of Ukraine, where a gradual flooding of the Kherson region began due to the closure of the canal.

And if so, then in the case of the opening of the canal, charge a fee for water disposal.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dym71

And if so, then in the case of the opening of the canal, charge a fee for water disposal.

They were offered payment, refused

[Dym71]

Quote: Lipchanin

They were offered payment, refused

I’m talking about something else, you have to take them

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dym71

I’m talking about something else, they need a brother

Well, I do not understand, it happens

[revnagan]

Quote: Dym71

they must be taken

Ay, maladtsa !!! "Hussars do not take money!"

[Dym71]

Quote: revnagan

"Hussars don't take money!"

Hussars and canals do not clean

[revnagan]

Quote: Dym71

Hussars and canals do not clean

Then let them drink vodka, they will manage without water. .

[Dmitry Potapov]

How can a sheep explain that the occupation of its territory is impossible!

[gridasov]

Water is life. It means to what extent it is necessary either to be an enemy of the people or a brainless monster so as not to understand what they are doing.

[evgic]

And where did you see the smart Svidomo? And a monster is each Svidomo by default.

[MoJloT]

blocked the canal supplying water to the Crimean peninsula, to which it has "every right"

Well, we reserve the right to shut off water to Ukraine.

[Vitas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEaZ9Qa5rN0&t=1516s
We listen to specialists and do not write nonsense.

[revnagan]

Quote: MoJloT

Well, we reserve the right to shut off water to Ukraine.

Yes, you can also try to block the air .... And, by the way, Ukraine, according to the rules of the Russian language, is capitalized ...

[taiga2018]

as one activist said there, that the residents of Donbass and Crimea should themselves want to return to Ukraine ... well, well ... although everything is possible and they "want" to return there, if "fighters" come to power in Russia, God forbid, "for fair elections ...

[Mountain shooter]

Give them free rein, they would clean the whole Crimea ... From the population. Yes, the hands are short.

[1976AG]

Here is the moment of truth! Ukraine admitted that it was not the Russian authorities who were to blame for the departure of Crimea from Ukraine, but the people of Crimea decided to secede from Ukraine, and therefore it is the population of Crimea that must be punished! But since it is impossible to punish harder, even though they could block the water, otherwise they could arrange Odessa-2! The same is true for Donbass. Now they’re just firing, and give them the opportunity to simply cut out half the inhabitants. And they still hope that the inhabitants of Donbass will want to live as part of Ukraine!

[revnagan]

Quote: 1976AG

from Ukraine

Quote: 1976AG

from Ukraine

Ukraine

[Nycomed]

Let the rice begin to grow in Kherson, soon there will be swamps as in Cambodia.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Nycomed

Let the rice begin to grow in Kherson,

We must send this training manual not to forget

[Piramidon]

You can also breed crucians.

[Nycomed]

No, in Cambodia there are catfish and a lot of poisonous snakes. Let the vipers with cobras and pythons breed.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nycomed

soon there will be swamps like in Cambodia.

Or maybe Kara Kuma.

[prior]

Perhaps Russia should also exercise its right and instead of arranging a garbage landfill in the Arkhangelsk region to dump garbage, for example, in Desna on the border with Ukraine, and Desna flows into the Dnieper above Kyuyv ..... with all flowing in and out .. .
Nobody deprived us of this right. How do you like that, "brothers" Ukrainians?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

dump garbage, for example, in Desna on the border with Ukraine

Yes, it is not proper for our people to be as petty dirty tricks as the Ukrainians.

[1976AG]

Quote: prior

Perhaps Russia should also exercise its right and instead of arranging a garbage landfill in the Arkhangelsk region to dump garbage, for example, in Desna on the border with Ukraine, and Desna flows into the Dnieper above Kyuyv ..... with all flowing in and out .. .
Nobody deprived us of this right. How do you like that, "brothers" Ukrainians?

I understand your emotions, but it becomes one level with this rot ... we will not.

[revnagan]

Quote: prior

How do you like that, "brothers" Ukrainians?

Go ahead, and with the song! We have accumulated a lot of nuclear waste ... And the winds are blowing in your direction ... To dump everything at the border, business then. What do you think will happen?

[Fedor Sokolov]

Did Ukraine build this channel? It was built by the USSR, whose leadership at one time "fairly" cut off the Crimea to Ukraine and carried out the first Ukrainization on the peninsula, forcing the Crimeans to compulsorily teach MOV in schools.

[dolfi1]

I wonder if we "cut off the water" for Hamas, for example (yes, yes, Israel supplies them with water), I can imagine what kind of a howl would rise all over the world. And then the "left-wing activists" were full of water, no one uttered a word. Maybe you will take the Donbass, God forbid them to return to Nenka's nest.

[yehat]

I remember a video of how "Colorado larvae" spread rot in Ukrainian schools.
not without a shudder remember

[Operator]

In international law, there is no concept of "river", but there is the concept of "watercourse of surface physically connected waters", which is suitable for transboundary rivers, lakes, canals (navigable, water supply and drainage).

Transboundary watercourses are regulated by the 1997 UN Convention "Convention on the Law of the Non-Navigational Uses of International Watercourses". The source of the Dnieper is located on the territory of the Russian Federation, so Russia has the right to part of its drainage. But Russia and Ukraine have not ratified the said Convention, therefore they have the right to do as they please.

For example, the Russian Federation can block the Dnieper dam at the point of crossing the Ukrainian border (as agreed with Belarus) or at the point of crossing the Belarusian border (Belarus has a positive water balance), and transfer excess water to the Volga or Don along the Moscow-Volga canal.

For reference - the world's largest storage of radioactive dust is located not in the Chernobyl zone, but at the bottom of the Kiev reservoir

[Monar]

stated the Permanent Representative of the President of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea Anton Korinevich in his

To block water, gas, limpodrichestvo and the sewerage to it. Personally.
The Dnieper does not flow into its representation. No gas reserves were found. HEP or NPP is not observed in vivo. And treatment facilities are connected by a channel in the form of a pipe.

[samarin1969]

The rather frivolous statements of the Russian officials on the solution of the water problem in the Crimea gave way to unexpected demands (requests) to let water into the canal. On the peninsula, and until 2014, it was not enough. And now the steppe regions have problems with the quantity and quality of water.
Crimea is not the Sahara. There are water resources. But according to the media, up to 50% goes into the ground due to the outrageous deterioration of pipes. And traditionally "everyone steals".
The only way to radically resolve the issue of water in Crimea is by putting pressure on Ukraine. But no one is going to "press" in the Kremlin. Ukraine announced an increase in purchases of fuels and lubricants, trade with the Russian Federation and a significant increase in gas transit. Even the Russian "Normanists" are not capable of an energy blockade.

[yehat]

interesting, but in Kiev, full right goes along with full responsibility for the implementation of the right
or are they sure that there is only law?

[BIABIA]

Quote: Orkraider

You do not understand, I suggest making a branch

this is not a structure on the river, this is a branch to the side

One or a couple)))
For example, to feed the Oka River, there now the river near Serpukhov has become non-navigable and just does not interfere, raise a couple of meters. And it’s technically possible to carry out a canal to the Oka River, there is only about 159 km if laying along the channels of old rivers ...
And one more branch to make for the cascade of dams, a place can be found)))
This is not a violation, no?

It is what it is. I live on the Oka River, not far from Serpukhov, in some places I can wade the river ...

[yehat]

Quote: Operator

For reference - the world's largest storage of radioactive dust is located not in the Chernobyl zone, but at the bottom of the Kiev reservoir

there are giant catfish!

[yehat]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Overlap? Or block the Dnieper on the border of Belarus and Ukraine. Belarus is not to blame for anything.

Belarusians killed so much labor to drain swamps
Do you want to turn their country into one huge swamp?

[Naive]

And for thoughtless land reclamation it is very difficult now with water in the Belarusian woodland, so water is needed !!! And the politicians should be involved in the decision to supply the Crimea’s water supply, and if the military cannot, then not the land reclamators!

[K-50]

Ukraine did not block the Dnieper River, but blocked the canal supplying water to the Crimean Peninsula, to which it has "every right," said Anton Korinevich, Permanent Representative of the President of Ukraine in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea

As far as I remember, although I could be mistaken, the desire of Syria, in due time, to block the water coming from the Golan to Israel, served as an impetus to the war, after which the Jews declared the Golan their territory.
In this vein, if Russia starts military action against Ukraine under this "sauce", then the "international community" should no longer object either.

[Nicholas C.]

Quote: 210ox

Desnalike Sozh and the Dnieper itself flow from the Smolensk region through Belarus. Yes, it will cause problems in the regions. And in the same Desnogorsk, where the nuclear power plant.

A bit of entertaining geography. Desna does NOT flow through Belarus! Desnogorsk is located at the very source of the Desna on the Selchanka river, on the bank of a reservoir, which has its own dam, and the direction of the Desna's flow there cannot cause any problems - do not invent it. The Desna sewage redirection project is not political, but economic, with high economic efficiency and quick payback. Leave your "no need to be like" - nothing will happen to Ukraine, the Dnieper has other tributaries. One should think and care about the development of Russia, not about Ukraine.

[Rwmos]

It is only necessary not to forget that the source of the Dnieper in Russia, and then we also have every right to overlap the Dnieper

[K-50]

Quote: RWMos

It is only necessary not to forget that the source of the Dnieper in Russia, and then we also have every right to overlap the Dnieper

Where are you going to get water? You’ll merge into your pocket or sell blacks to Africa by yourself.

[Rwmos]

Hes build. Drain will be, but noticeably less. And if you build a cascade of hydroelectric power stations. for example, there are mini-hydroelectric power stations, in fact they can be put on streams, as for example in the city of Serpukhov - water hunger is ALL OVER Ukraine

[K-50]

Quote: RWMos

Hes build. Drain will be, but noticeably less.

The drain must match the "inflow" anyway. Otherwise, you will simply drown.

[Rwmos]

Lost vapor from the surface of an artificial reservoir.

[K-50]

Quote: RWMos

Lost vapor from the surface of an artificial reservoir.

Even too lazy to comment, chesslovo.
If our temperature components were like in Africa, I would have remembered them, but when the rains can charge another week for a week, what kind of "evaporation" can we talk about?

[Rwmos]

Well, since laziness. don’t comment, just when building a hydropower plant, water supply always decreases downstream, and the rains for a week depend on the amount of evaporation in the adjacent territories

[Sapsan136]

And there is not enough water in the Volga, for shipping, so we will find where to go ...

[Roma 1977]

It's not about you guys arguing. A strategic mistake was made in 2014. It was necessary to annex not only the geographical peninsula of Crimea, but also Tauris with the entire channel from the Dnieper. Yes, it would be a more risky and costly operation. They did as they did. But it could have been better. About the land corridor and the Donbass in general I am silent. The problem is frozen and will be inherited by the next generation.

[Aliken]

If Kiev claims that there are "temporarily occupied" Ukrainian citizens in Crimea, then what is the logic of cutting off the water, it is called a crime against its own people.

[Astra wild]

In fact, they have not been friends with Kiev for a long time, which means that the concept of logic is completely alien to them.
Remember, the frog in which the brain was removed, they are clearly its offspring

[Sapsan136]

But Russia is not obliged to fill the Dnieper with water ..

[Roma 1977]

The Dnieper is perfectly filled with Pripyat and other rivers of Belarus.

[Sapsan136]

So let’s see how it fills without water from the Russian Federation and whether geese go ford near Kiev

[Astra wild]

Quote: yehat

tourists drank

However, their thirst is universal

[Astra wild]

Quote: Aliken

If Kiev claims that there are "temporarily occupied" Ukrainian citizens in Crimea, then what is the logic of cutting off the water, it is called a crime against its own people.

We must thank Mr. Korinevich: he confirms that the Kiev authorities do not think about their citizens.

[Antares]

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Cheers patriots minus even those sober Russians who are told that Ukrainians can, and that the proposal to block the Dnieper is absurdly expensive and will cause tensions with Belarus. And without overlapping the Dnieper in Belarus, it’s generally useless. The main thing is emotions. Calculations, the closure of the river which in Belarus and Ukraine is simply at the request of the patriots cheers, no one will do.
The position of Ukraine is clear. The technological supply channel is unknown to anyone, but it is still unknown who else refused to sign the contract when Ukraine itself (yes yes SAMA UKRAINE offered to supply water to Crimea) did not agree in one phrase. ARC Crimea. Ukraine is ready to supply Crimea to Crimea. And not the Russian Federation.
the only phrase decided the outcome of the contract. Russia refused herself! After there were several statements that Crimea did not need WATER from Ukraine. Dirty, and so on. Everything is enough and generally hurt.
Total
From the contract for the supply of water - the Russian Federation itself refused.
Crimean officials refused the need for Crimea in water from the JCC themselves.
Total-neither the desire nor the need for water from the CCM for the Russian Federation / Crimea.
Ukraine is ready to supply its own (that is, in the Crimea Crimea contract) for money (capitalism) as before.
The Russian Federation has neither the desire nor the need for this water.
Therefore, disputes about overlapping, about some kind of violations there (the convention directly says that who should be responsible for the needs in the "Squeezed Territories" - and this is not Ukraine at all)
What claims to Ukraine?
Willingness to supply water - was it? It was. The contract was ready. Money in exchange for water as before.
Surprising willingness to block the source of the Dnieper! I thought they had been ill already in Soviet times .. But there it’s global. Here, without taking into account that the main food of the Dnieper is not coming from the Russian Federation. Oh well.
I am sure that no one will disassemble anything in the post. Because patriots are cheered by emotions. And here everything is simple.
In order to satisfy them, as I understand it, Ukraine must supply water for free (and even better humiliatingly paying extra and repeating that Crimea is Russia) and then this may not be enough ..
There is no need for water in the Russian Federation (by the way, the Russian Federation is very provided with water resources, only unevenly) and Ukraine does not. Ukraine is not adequately provided with water.
Technological channel SSK. They require money for his service. Could supply water for 4 years already ..
but we have two sides, Ukraine and the Russian Federation — stubbornly the same.
Sometimes I think that Ukrainians and Russians (Russians are applicable to both) are facing each other. They are absolutely identical in everything - the main thing is obstinacy.

[Grad-Xnumx]

Siberian rivers turn into Crimea!

[22 dmdc]

Quote: Antares

They are absolutely identical in everything - the main thing is obstinacy.

I compared God's gift with fried eggs.