US rolls out THAAD missile defense systems deployed in Romania

The United States is phasing out the THAAD missile system temporarily deployed in Romania due to the commissioning of the Aegis Ashore missile defense system after modernization. This was reported by the NATO press service.

The Aegis Ashore missile defense system deployed by the United States in Romania at the Deveselu military base was put on combat alert after the modernization, which started in mid-May of this year. Details of the upgrade are not provided, however, the US military previously stated that "the technical readiness of the complex will be restored." Some media have suggested that work on the ground complex was carried out taking into account the US withdrawal from the INF Treaty. At the same time, the US has already stated that "the missile defense system has not received any offensive capabilities."

The deployment of THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) missile defense systems in Romania this spring was made at the request of NATO to support the Alliance’s missile defense for the entire duration of the repair of the ground complex. Now the installations in service with the 69-th Air Defense Artillery Brigade of the US Army will return to their permanent location - Texas.

The US Aegis Ashore missile defense system was deployed on the territory of Romania in the 2016 year, and from the 2020 year it is planned to put the second complex deployed in Poland on combat alert. According to the US military, the system is designed to protect the American contingent in Europe and European allies from ballistic missile attacks. The THAAD missile defense system is designed for high-altitude atmospheric interception of ballistic and cruise missiles in a radius of up to 200 kilometers.

Russia previously accused the United States of deploying the US Aegis Ashore missile defense system deployed in Romania and Poland as ground installations for Tomahawk missiles, which was banned by the INF Treaty.

Comments

[kventinasd]

The THAAD missile defense system is designed for high-altitude atmospheric interception of ballistic and cruise missiles in a radius of up to 200 kilometers.

Does anyone know the effectiveness of these missiles against ballistic targets?

[Wiruz]

Well, according to the idea, they were created to intercept short and medium-range ballistic missiles. ICBMs are hardly tough for them. Very "unlikely"

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Wiruz

Well, the idea was created to intercept ballistic missiles of short and medium range.

Duc comrade Kim made a visual demonstration of the fact that they are too tough for short- and medium-range missiles. and what can they handle? judging by the fact that after the North Korean launches, South Korea fired at the "target missile", it seems that they are intended to demonstrate combat effectiveness and target shooting.

[Yujiko]

The whole answer to smark from one

Quote: Wiruz

on the idea

- as if the student wrote.
PS You had to fight evil and not join it.

[vasilii]

Tests in the development and adoption of weapons was carried out specifically for ballistic purposes.

[Katanikotael]

Namely, they tested against ballistic and non-maneuvering targets, the result was disappointing until the transmitters set their targets, after which the percentage of hits increased sharply ...

[Sanichsan]

as far as I remember in tyrnet there was even a video. in a video from a transport a barrel was dropped by parachute and it played the role of a ballistic missile. well, norms.

[Katanikotael]

Not a single Eun rusty rocket has been shot down, that’s the whole result.

[kventinasd]

Quote: Katanikotael

Not a single Eun rusty rocket has been shot down, that’s the whole result.

Exactly. And what will happen if the missiles put an active obstacle with a bunch of false targets, and even maneuvering.

[YOUR]

They are not there already. There is a more serious thing - the Aegis Ashore missile defense system.
https://topwar.ru/131768-protivoraketnyy-kompleks-aegis-ashore-suhoputnyy-korabl-i-ugroza-bezopasnosti.html
What is the effectiveness, and the jester knows him. It is better to study such information in the media, and not on their own experience.

[Anatoly R]

The states don't give a damn about the missile defense effectiveness of this system. This is primarily offensive! Those who are naive think this is a missile defense system.
The states need a local war in Europe, Asia, with the wrong hands, to sell warring weapons.

[Mountain shooter]

The usual thing. Temporary cover is no longer needed, it is removed ... In general, it’s violet ...

[Dmitry Potapov]

Once again, I will express myself until there are ultimatums on our part about the deployment of missile defense systems along the borders of the Russian Federation with the subsequent striking at the territory of the deployment of missile defense complexes, including nuclear, NOTHING CHANGES!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Once again, I will express myself until there are ultimatums on our part about the deployment of missile defense systems along the borders of the Russian Federation with the subsequent striking at the territory of the deployment of missile defense complexes, including nuclear, NOTHING CHANGES!

You pushed it hard.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Once again, I will express myself until there are ultimatums on our part about the deployment of missile defense systems along the borders of the Russian Federation with the subsequent striking at the territory of the deployment of missile defense complexes, including nuclear, NOTHING CHANGES!

You pushed it hard.

Why did you push it in? Everything seems to be in the subject, only with nuclear strikes a person got excited. Israel, and with less threats from the Iranian proxies, inflicts blows on the territory of Syria, destroying caravans and weapons depots, explaining that they pose a threat to Israel and closer than 100 km. It’s not worth approaching the border.

[BVS]

And what is the distance from these complexes to the borders of the Russian Federation? Is it already closer than 100 km?

[Rriv]

From Redzikovo to Baltiysk 180 km, Kaliningrad 220 km, Chernyakhovsk 300 km.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: RRiv

From Redzikovo to Baltiysk 180 km, Kaliningrad 220 km, Chernyakhovsk 300 km.

So we’ll work on Redzikovo with our OTR ... Well, for example, the Iskanders are quite suitable for this ... By the way, the accuracy of the Two-horned thing is 5m!
So, they won’t even have time to get scared ... not like working out on such a business center ...
IMHO.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Well, for example, the Iskanders are quite suitable for this ...

Iskanders are too cool for them, except to catch up, which would be for sure ... there is cheaper and more effective product

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Ascetic

there is a cheaper and more efficient product

Stanislav, I welcome you, dear!
Apart from Oka and Pioneer, nothing comes to mind from ballistics as the fastest way to deliver a "gift" to partners.
Unless, of course, is a secret - tell me. And if you also tell me, I will be grateful.
Best regards,

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Why did you push it in? Everything seems to be in the subject, only with nuclear strikes a person got excited.

And with the usual blows did not get excited? So to take and in peacetime hit Romania?

Israel, and with less threats from the Iranian proxy, strikes in Syria

Invalid comparison. There is a war in Syria and Israel has been at war with Syria since the formation of the Jewish state, with short periods of temporary cease-fire. The latter ordered a long life in 2011.

[Foxmara]

Would you like to wait until the mattresses put launchers along the entire border with a time of arrival of a couple of minutes to all the important centers?

[cradle]

Well, if you place in Venezuela, for example, Caliber, then normally pushed.

[VO3A]

I propose building a nuclear LNG terminal in Cuba, and a container station with Caliber .... in Nicaragua, or Venezuela ... and you can always 2 ... And place a tracking station there to protect our specialists and tourists .... from ballistic missiles ...
Did I push it hard ?!

[Piramidon]

Quote: VO3A

I propose building a nuclear LNG terminal in Cuba, and a container station with Caliber .... in Nicaragua, or Venezuela ... and you can always 2 ... And place a tracking station there to protect our specialists and tourists .... from ballistic missiles ...
Did I push it hard ?!

Have you already received consent to this from Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela? For some reason, everyone who makes such proposals here (they mold you and "plus signs"), consider these countries to be regions of Russia, where you can post anything you want without asking anyone.

[VO3A]

LNG terminal and container station .... can you read?

[Piramidon]

Quote: VO3A

LNG terminal and container station .... can you read?

I can.

nuclear LNG terminal and container station с Gauges

What, immediately turned on the "back"?

[VO3A]

You didn’t guess ... There is an option of placing missiles in ordinary sea containers .... But what can be placed on gas carriers or on terminals for liquefied gas is even hard to imagine, but a tracking station for sure ....

[Piramidon]

Quote: VO3A

There is a placement option

That's about the "placement" I wrote, and you started to jump off, the question of the consent of the governments of these countries did not answer ... Like, yes, I only wrote about ordinary LNG terminals and containers. You are somehow slippery, it is not interesting to discuss with such.

[VO3A]

Jumped off, and who are you? I'm not in interrogation ...
And to me all the more ...

[boss]

cool idea, even b familiar with the logistics, with the price of accommodation, the cost of maintenance ...
de money, zing ?!

[VO3A]

Where ...? In Karaganda ! ... Instead of financing the Superjet ...

In total, the state plans to allocate a draft resolution on the development of a domestic-made aircraft fleet for the 2019-2021 period:

MS-21 - about 10,5 billion rubles,
CR929 - 17 billion rubles,
IL-114-300 - about 3,934 billion rubles,
SSJ75 - 41,35 billion rubles, from which we can conclude that the development of a regional jet aircraft with a capacity of up to 75 seats is a priority.

[Aviator_]

We can say the following about your list: CR929 is a Russian-Chinese long-haul project, which is very promising (our last long-haul aircraft is the Il-96 of another Soviet project). MS-21 - everything seems to be fine, but a composite wing on American composites is beyond reason. You can put a cross at once. Il-114-300 is good, but it is small, regional, one word. Well, about SSJ75, one can only say that Poghosyan's case lives on and wins (although he has long been exiled to the MAI to the post of rector). No wonder this miracle of thought is called "Superbudget".

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Aviator_

MS-21 - everything seems to be nothing, but the composite wing on American composites is beyond reason.

you missed something since 2017 Firstly Japanese and not Amerian, and secondly, the problem was solved back in 2018. now mine.

[Aviator_]

Maybe he missed it. However, it's hard to believe in your "black wing". I'll find out one of these days.

[My doctor]

Quote: VO3A

I propose building a nuclear LNG terminal in Cuba, and a container station with Caliber .... in Nicaragua, or Venezuela ... and you can always get 2 ...

It is unlikely that while the terminal will be built there, a color revolution will happen a hundred times. And no special forces will save.

[Unclean]

They can’t fix the radar there, they don’t have money or aren’t allowed, but you want to build something. May the Force come with you! And the mind.

[Nycomed]

"It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have failed." Such ultimatums should have been issued more than 10 years ago, when the conversation about the deployment of missile defense systems in Eastern Europe had just begun. And to say that in this case we will immediately withdraw from the INF Treaty. Instead, our fat generals began to sculpt something incomprehensible about the rusty and long-looted radar station in Gabbala, assuring that it would cover against Iranian missiles.

[Motivatornick]

What are the ultimatums. This nonsense does not work even on dwarfs like Venezuela, and you are going to put ultimatums to the United States.

[The Siberian barber]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Once again, I will express myself until there are ultimatums on our part about the deployment of missile defense systems along the borders of the Russian Federation with the subsequent striking at the territory of the deployment of missile defense complexes, including nuclear, NOTHING CHANGES!

Oh yes! Unfortunately, the world has not changed: if you are soft, it is often interpreted as weakness. But I don’t remember something when, in recent history, our Foreign Ministry put forward an ultimatum to another state.
Even, due to the sad events, when the pilot died, there were only "tomatoes", but about "now" I generally keep quiet

[Vasily Ponomarev]

who writes the preview of articles like this?

[Wiruz]

And don't say. Another would have written "Trump gave an unexpected order to roll up missile defense in Romania"

[NF68]

It looks like it's all about Putin's "secret weapon": the Romanian gypsies. Until the gypsies took everything away, it is necessary to take away from sin further.

[knn54]

Something Cuba does not come out of my head, especially since the Yankees left the INF Treaty.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Nycomed

"It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have failed." Such ultimatums should have been issued more than 10 years ago, when the conversation about the deployment of missile defense systems in Eastern Europe had just begun. And to say that in this case we will immediately withdraw from the INF Treaty. Instead, our fat generals began to sculpt something incomprehensible about the rusty and long-looted radar station in Gabbala, assuring that it would cover against Iranian missiles.

Honestly, no one was interested in the opinion of our fat (and other) generals, either then or now. Since then, as in the Ministry of Defense, everything passes through the "filter" of civilian ministers. When the minister was in the military and was a member of the Politburo, then I was interested.

[Nycomed]

Who then was interested in the opinion of any member of the Politburo, if he was not the general secretary? About our member of the Politburo, Minister of Foreign Affairs, even the daddy of the current Assad, Hafiz, wiped his feet when he did not give the go-ahead to the plane with AA. Gromyko to land in Damascus, because he (Hafiz) at that very time communicated with the state. US Secretary. And Gromyko, a member of the Politburo, hung out in the plane over Damascus until the fuel ran out. And you say "interested". They were only interested in the supply of weapons and, preferably, "for free", our big "Guinean friends".

[bmv04636]

Glorious goals for our Daggers

[Foxmara]

INF Treaty no, now you can

[cniza]

Yes, and with him they did not bother much.

[rocket757]

Taxed ... rather try to tax! Only FIG they have something effective work! But neighbors, nedou .... who do not want to think carefully, will receive, if that, specifically and in full.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Nycomed

Who then was interested in the opinion of any member of the Politburo, if he was not the general secretary? About our member of the Politburo, Minister of Foreign Affairs, even the daddy of the current Assad, Hafiz, wiped his feet when he did not give the go-ahead to the plane with AA. Gromyko to land in Damascus, because he (Hafiz) at that very time communicated with the state. US Secretary. And Gromyko, a member of the Politburo, hung out in the plane over Damascus until the fuel ran out. And you say "interested". They were only interested in the supply of weapons and, preferably, "for free", our big "Guinean friends".

What are you talking about? It is about making decisions by the leadership of our country - when and how much was the opinion of the generals taken into account. Was Hafiz a Soviet general?

[Old26]

Quote: Wiruz

Well, according to the idea, they were created to intercept short and medium-range ballistic missiles. ICBMs are hardly tough for them. Very "unlikely"

The probability of intercepting ICBMs is close to zero. You need a coincidence of the mass of factors in order to intercept

Quote: Katanikotael

Namely, they tested against ballistic and non-maneuvering targets, the result was disappointing until the transmitters set their targets, after which the percentage of hits increased sharply ...

And then the percentage increased without transmitters, as the system was being developed

Quote: bvs

And what is the distance from these complexes to the borders of the Russian Federation? Is it already closer than 100 km?

To Sevastopol - almost 750 km, to the borders of the Kaluga and Belgorod regions - more than 1100. To Kozelsk and PR 28 missile division 0 more than 1400 km

Quote: Katanikotael

Not a single Eun rusty rocket has been shot down, that’s the whole result.

And someone set the task to bring them down. Although he plays on everyone’s nerves, he does not break any boundaries. Why bring them down?

Quote: VO3A

I propose building a nuclear LNG terminal in Cuba, and a container station with Caliber .... in Nicaragua, or Venezuela ... and you can always 2 ... And place a tracking station there to protect our specialists and tourists .... from ballistic missiles ...
Did I push it hard ?!

Strong! It is good that you did not say about your dreams in the presence of Cubans, Nicaraguans, Venezuelans. They sleep and see how they could become nuclear hostages and be the first to burn out for nothing in a nuclear conflict. I'm afraid, comrade, they would have "pushed" you, having slightly aligned the photo

Quote: Nycomed

"It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have failed." Such ultimatums should have been issued more than 10 years ago, when the conversation about the deployment of missile defense systems in Eastern Europe had just begun. And to say that in this case we will immediately withdraw from the INF Treaty. Instead, our fat generals began to sculpt something incomprehensible about the rusty and long-looted radar station in Gabbala, assuring that it would cover against Iranian missiles.

When it was planned to deploy missile defense in Europe, the so-called. TPR (third positional region), then it was about the deployment in Poland (Romania was not planned for the base at that time) of completely different interceptor missiles - PR of the GBI type. When they decided to deploy "Standards" at the Ijes Asher ground base in Romania, ours tried to "slow down" the Americans by offering a joint missile defense system against Iran, for example. At the same time, it was not considered that these launchers violated the INF Treaty, since the deployment of strike missiles in them, the same "tomahawks", would be considered a violation. but not the possibility of placing them there. They offered to use our forces and means, including the Gabala radar station in Azerbaijan.
The Americans gave a negative answer to the joint missile defense, since we could not offer anything concrete. But at the same time, they were not opposed to our inspectors being at these missile defense bases. But we need all or nothing. We proudly refused (and there aren’t and will not be our inspectors there now)
And the Gabala radar, by the way, could control mainly the eastern and central parts of Iran, while launches due to the fact that there are no long-range missiles would be carried out in the western regions of Iran, which the Gabala radar does not control

[Incvizitor]

There, the gypsies have already dragged everything away.

[pytar]

A bit of info: In 2015, Bulgaria categorically refused the United States to deploy active missile defense elements in its territory and the Yankees settled in Romania! Funny story: One Bulgarian was shown on a BG-TV set, who offered his own private plot of land for the construction of the Russian military buzz free of charge! According to the ego's opinion "from here the Russians will be able to shoot down NATO planes more easily"!

[Old26]

Quote: pytar

A bit of info: In 2015, Bulgaria categorically refused the United States to deploy active missile defense elements in its territory and the Yankees settled in Romania! Funny story: One Bulgarian was shown on a BG-TV set, who offered his own private plot of land for the construction of the Russian military buzz free of charge! According to the ego's opinion "from here the Russians will be able to shoot down NATO planes more easily"!

Something, dear comrade, you have a causal relationship. According to your statement, after Bulgaria refused to host active anti-missile defense elements in 2015, the Americans settled in Romania.

It is not.
В 2010 Romanian President Traian Basescu agreed to deploy interceptor missiles.
В 2014 year to Devesela missile defense system deployment started, which is part of the European missile defense system being created by the USA and NATO, and consisting of the American multi-purpose anti-aircraft missile system Aegis Ashore, equipped with SM-3 (Standard Missile 3) interceptor missiles
В December 2015 the United States and Romania completed the deployment of the American Aegis Ashore missile defense system in Devesela, in early 2016 it will be connected to the NATO missile defense system.

[Town Hall]

Quote: Old26

Something dear comrade you have violated the cause and effect

It’s a pity that you exposed such a bike. There were a lot of patriotic pluses on it that could be cut down

[pytar]

I accept your note! Memory failed, and it was a long time ago. Meanwhile, as far as I remember, Bulgaria refused to participate in the formative anti-Russian Black Sea flotilla and as a result the project was buried. And about the missile defense system, the Americans went back and forth, it was said that in Bulgarian Dobrudja the most convenient place for deployment, it seems that the angle for interception is ideal. It immediately became clear to Toka that Bulgarian society was clearly opposed. The topic was closed without much hype and went to Romania. American diplomats in Sofia say that the United States is not actively climbing in Bulgaria, as it fears anti-American sentiment, in view of the special attitude of the Bulgarians towards the Russians. But in Romania there are no such problems! Romania and Poland are leading in anti-Russian sentiment. Look at the polls and everything becomes clear!

85% of Bulgarians do not consider Russia a threat, compared to the whole 38% of the Romanians! The difference is 2 times! Of course, it’s easier to pair PRO systems in Romania than in Bulgaria!

[bald]

Thanks to the author of the article, I won’t put a plus, since the topic is not very good. But the Romanians, as in history, stand aside, let them tinker with their households, and after all, do not offend our GRU - IN A SILENT SWELL. And there is so much of everything, that’s what happened on the topic.

[Old26]

Quote: Town Hall

It’s a pity that you exposed such a bike. There were a lot of patriotic pluses on it that could be cut down

Well, call me, I love accuracy as much as possible

[Operator]

USA upgraded ground-based Aegis to accommodate nuclear "Tomahawks" - Khan Bucharest.

[nesvobodnaja]

Knowing the peace-loving nature of the Russian Federation, all these countries are not very afraid to host such complexes. They do not believe, apparently, that we will decide to strike.

[Anchonsha]

It is necessary to slightly change the military doctrine regarding the location of any US troops on the territory of Poland and Romania with the clear aim that if Russia makes sure that the THAAD missile defense is located on their territory, our troops open fire on them for destruction without warning. So let the Merikans and their lackeys think how to be. we have something to stop NATO and their presumptuous bastards.

[yfast]

Rivet more submarines and thermonuclear charges. Let them intercept from Romania. No one will limit himself to any treaties when the noses of interceptor missiles are bulging out of the window.

[Vladimir Nizhegorodsky]

Cuba, Venezuela and Nicaragua have always been against the United States.
And you need to work with them.
Ways of interaction, interest is full.
Military, economic and ideological.
Only there would be a desire.

[Old26]

Quote: Anchonsha

It is necessary to slightly change the military doctrine regarding the location of any US troops on the territory of Poland and Romania with the clear aim that if Russia makes sure that the THAAD missile defense is located on their territory, our troops open fire on them for destruction without warning. So let the Merikans and their lackeys think how to be. we have something to stop NATO and their presumptuous bastards.

There are always two sides to a medal, I hope you heard about it. So here is one side - a change in the military doctrine of Russia, so that everything is as you write.
And the second side of the coin is a change in the military doctrine of NATO countries, when in a situation where they make sure that missile defense systems of the S-500 type or the newest "Caliber-M" or "Iskander-2" NATO troops will be in the same Kaliningrad region without warning open fire on the territory where these systems are

You do not consider such option? Or can we only start a war without warning, because we don’t like being in a particular territory of the THAAD missile defense system, or something else?

[musorg]

However, all at once and believed that it was not offensive.