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The second day Kiev does not evacuate the bodies of sappers blown up on their mines

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For the second day, the Ukrainian security forces made no attempts to pick up the bodies of those who had blown up on mines at the contact line of the fighters of the 72-th brigade of the Armed Forces, despite the security guarantees given by the People's Police of the LPR. This was reported in the press service of the NM LPR.


The second day Kiev does not evacuate the bodies of sappers blown up on their mines


According to the official of the press service of the defense department of the LPR, Ivan Filiponenko, the Kiev side does not make any attempts to evacuate the bodies of two APU sappers, who were blown up during mine clearance near the contact line in the area of ​​the settlement of 9 in August. At the same time, the command of the Operation of the combined forces appealed to the command of the NM LPR with the request to provide guarantees not to open fire during evacuation, and they received such guarantees. It is possible that Kiev intends to use this situation to deploy another information company against the Lugansk Republic with the charge of the militia in the deaths of the Armed Forces.

Despite the provision of additional security guarantees by the LPR People’s Police command, the Ukrainian side did not attempt to evacuate the bodies of Ukrainian troops

- the press service of the NM LPR says in a statement.

Earlier, the LNR NM press service said that according to 9 intelligence data, in August, during demining near the contact line, serious injuries that were not compatible with life were caused by the destruction of Ukrainian mines by two Ukrainian Armed Forces from the 72 brigade newly arrived in Donbass. This incident occurred due to the lack of a minefield map of the new unit established by its predecessors.

Colonel Alexei Maistrenko, commander of the 54 brigade, “kindly offered to buy” accurate maps of minefields installed on the site. However, the new commander of the 72 brigade, Colonel Artem Bogomolov, fundamentally refused the deal and gave instructions to conduct engineering reconnaissance of the terrain and mapping the minefields to his engineering units

- stated in the press service, adding that during the reconnaissance there was an explosion of a group of sappers of the 72 brigade, as a result of which two servicemen were mortally wounded.
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 11 August 2019 14: 26
    +21
    Colonel Alexei Maistrenko, commander of the 54 brigade, “kindly offered to buy” accurate maps of minefields installed on the site. However, the new commander of the 72 brigade, Colonel Artem Bogomolov, fundamentally refused the deal and gave instructions to conduct engineering reconnaissance of the terrain and mapping the minefields to his engineering units

    Ukrainianism is indestructible! Apparently the regiments from Zapadenshchina.
    1. Bykov.
      Bykov. 11 August 2019 15: 51
      +4
      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Colonel Alexei Maistrenko, commander of the 54 brigade, “kindly offered to buy” accurate maps of minefields installed on the site. However, the new commander of the 72 brigade, Colonel Artem Bogomolov, fundamentally refused the deal and gave instructions to conduct engineering reconnaissance of the terrain and mapping the minefields to his engineering units

      Ukrainianism is indestructible! Apparently the regiments from Zapadenshchina.

      Come on. Well, think for yourself, how did it become known to the press officer of the defense ministry of the LPR Ivan Filonenko?
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 11 August 2019 15: 59
        +1
        Quote: Bulls.
        . Well, think for yourself how it became known to the press officer of the defense ministry of the LPR

        From intelligence.
        Or is it such a state secret?
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 11 August 2019 20: 17
          +3
          You want to say that the LPR intelligence is worse than the CIA and the GRU, since it knows what the brigade commanders are talking about?
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 11 August 2019 20: 24
            +8
            Quote: Holgerton
            You want to say that the LPR intelligence is worse than the CIA and the GRU, since it knows what the brigade commanders are talking about?

            I want to say that the brigade commander is not the figure whose last name is State Secret.
            And the special services you listed are not related to front-line intelligence. From the word no
            It is front-line intelligence that also extracts such information.
            And you can find out such a trifle in many ways
            And what they talked about is not a great secret. With Korea, the conversation was all with witnesses and in elevated tones., So that many could hear
            1. tracer
              tracer 13 August 2019 05: 10
              -3
              I’d buy a card. Over the ring checks from a grenade. I had to agree
      2. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 11 August 2019 16: 10
        +2
        Italian intelligence leaders in Afghanistan regularly paid tens of thousands of dollars to the Taliban for security in the Italian-controlled region of NATO and bribed local militants. The Times writes about this on October 15, citing sources in NATO.

        There was such an infa. So why do you think that something could be different here? Moreover, in fact, one language. And, by the way, Sergey who is Lipchanin is right - from intelligence. So I do not see anything surprising.
      3. Piramidon
        Piramidon 11 August 2019 16: 57
        +2
        Quote: Bulls.
        how did it become known

        From prisoners, from deserters, from deserters ..., from civilians, in the end, who go across the line of contact in both directions.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 August 2019 17: 22
          -6
          Quote: Piramidon
          From prisoners, from deserters, from deserters ..., from civilians, in the end, who go across the line of contact in both directions.

          When I served in the SA, the officers spoke of Military Secret like that. The Americans know everything about our Army, except for two things, a daily routine and uniforms. laughing
          One friend told me, he served in the Navy.
          They were on a campaign in the Mediterranean Sea. As always, an American ship is nearby. In pairs then went. So they congratulated with the DR not only officers, but also sailors
          1. sailor roman
            sailor roman 11 August 2019 19: 07
            +11
            No need to invent and listen to the talkers. I had more than 10 years to serve on ships solving BS missions in the Mediterranean Sea, Atlantic, Indian Ocean. Not always our ships, and the American ones, followed each other, except that we always tracked the AUG. For all the years I have never met such experts. There were very rare cases on both sides when it was possible to pick up documents thrown overboard with rubbish and indicating positions and names, but it was impossible to believe this "rubbish", since both sides tried to misinform the enemy. The Americans and their satellites monitored our ships only when we were conducting large exercises.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 11 August 2019 19: 25
              -1
              Quote: sailor Roman
              No need to invent and listen

              Well, the stories were all about the service laughing
              But you won’t check laughing
          2. Aerodrome
            Aerodrome 11 August 2019 19: 08
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            So they congratulated with the DR not only officers, but also sailors

            what nonsense ... hospada ... winked
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 11 August 2019 20: 06
              +1
              I do not know about the sailors, my brother was not congratulated, for example, although he spoiled blood in the Baltic "sworn friends". But Vasily Tsymbal, of good memory, said that his norgi were greeted personally and with details. He is of course Persona and was known
      4. Dmitry Vyazmenskiy
        Dmitry Vyazmenskiy 11 August 2019 20: 25
        +4
        Intelligence supplies you think who ?! Armed forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, whose brains have not yet quit on the Maidan, and who want to quickly end the fratricidal war. This is not to understand! fool
      5. olegactor
        olegactor 11 August 2019 20: 34
        +2
        Come on. Well, think for yourself, how did it become known to the press officer of the defense ministry of the LPR Ivan Filonenko?


        do not forget about relatives .... and intelligence does not sleep drinks
    2. boss
      boss 11 August 2019 16: 58
      0
      beautiful, saved ...
      or squandered ?!
    3. VO3A
      VO3A 11 August 2019 17: 45
      +11
      I want to clarify ... For everyone and even for ... Zelensky.
      Now in the Bandera army, complete morons have reached colonels, who were graduated from the semi-disbanded military schools of the Outskirts during the period of complete and final disintegration of the army there, which falls on 1998-2005 ... At this time, all self-respecting officers left this army, and in cadets were idiots who could only be taken to a madhouse ... they were mistaken for fat and bribes ... This is now the "golden" fund of Ukrainian senior officers .... How to manage them, how they build their "great" army , it is impossible to understand or simply impossible ... So there is nothing to be surprised at ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 August 2019 18: 13
        +1
        But there is nothing worse than a stupid opponent.
        1. akarfoxhound
          akarfoxhound 12 August 2019 00: 19
          0
          There is nothing better than a stupid adversary! Something tells me you didn’t fight
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 11 August 2019 20: 14
        0
        There is nothing surprising: many former republics have gone the same way and passed through "democracies": first they brought back the former specialists from the Union, and then threw them off because they were "former Soviet". For the sake of interest, at least in the wiki, look at the biography of the mayor of Riga, he has several interesting interviews why he did not become a general, neither in the SA nor later. And my classmate from a respectable position was thrown out of the 404th troops for excessive service zeal, and he even stopped communicating with us ...
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2019 20: 55
      +1
      Idiocy from scratch does not arise.
    5. demo
      demo 12 August 2019 16: 30
      +1
      Ukraine has already turned into a country where - every man for himself.
      And the young silly jerk suffered.

      Just the sappers ran up and nobody wants to go.
  2. NF68
    NF68 11 August 2019 14: 29
    +11
    In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 11 August 2019 15: 51
      +3
      Quote: NF68
      In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

      But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.
      1. NF68
        NF68 11 August 2019 15: 54
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: NF68
        In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

        But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.


        They have this old, since 1918 year, tradition and, accordingly, rich experience, and even they can’t drink all this
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 August 2019 15: 57
          +3
          Quote: NF68
          They have this old, since 1918 year, tradition and, accordingly, rich experience, and even they can’t drink all this

          Yes, I noticed.
          But they are becoming smaller. parashkin was already shaking a piece of the bus, and this one was a little thing
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 11 August 2019 16: 00
        +4
        Now he can attach a couple more bracelets.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 August 2019 16: 02
          +1
          Quote: Captive
          Now he can attach a couple more bracelets.

          He wore those bracelets for the sailors.
          And if for these, then at least as Papuan from head to toe
      3. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 11 August 2019 19: 10
        -13
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Quote: NF68
        In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

        But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.

        and we have in the "Urals" with a kherurg drives ... norms? Chapito ...
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 11 August 2019 19: 29
          +4
          Quote: Aerodrome
          .norm?

          Norm good
          Communicates with people.
          It’s not conducting an orchestra and not an airplane landing gear
        2. brat07
          brat07 11 August 2019 20: 13
          +6
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: NF68
          In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

          But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.

          and we have in the "Urals" with a kherurg drives ... norms? Chapito ...

          Sorry, but your statement is not very smart.
          My minus.
  3. 1976AG
    1976AG 11 August 2019 14: 34
    +5
    When there are no corpses, who can prove that they were blown up by mines? Can be attributed to shelling from the enemy.
    1. Fayter2017
      Fayter2017 11 August 2019 23: 39
      0
      We speak differently and only one appears in the corpse:
      https://m.censor.net.ua/video_news/3142358/telo_natsgvardeyitsa_romana_romanchenko_pogibshego_nakanune_na_donbasse_ne_mogut_evakuirovat_izza_vrajeskih
      The military at the position told reporters that despite the ceasefire, the mercenaries of the Russian Federation continue to dig in and try to move forward. They began to dig trenches in the direction of the road connecting our two positions. The soldiers say that if they succeed, then access to one of the oporniks will be lost. Therefore, it was decided to conduct reconnaissance. To further establish surveillance there and stop the terrorists. However, the fighters were blown up on an enemy mine set earlier.
  4. Masha
    Masha 11 August 2019 14: 36
    +5
    so .... meat ....
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 11 August 2019 17: 04
      +3
      Quote: Masha
      so .... meat ....

      The Sumerians hope that when this meat stinks strongly, the militia will remove it and bury it. And Kiev will declare meat as deserters.
      1. major147
        major147 12 August 2019 00: 02
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: Masha
        so .... meat ....

        The Sumerians hope that when this meat stinks strongly, the militia will remove it and bury it. And Kiev will declare meat as deserters.

        Moscow, August 11 - AiF-Moscow.
        The head of the press service of the LPR People’s Militia, Yakov Osadchy, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine opened fire on representatives of a self-proclaimed republic who had evacuated the body of a Ukrainian soldier who had been blown up by a mine near the contact line.
        On August 10, the LPR authorities reported that a group of security forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine had been blown up at the contact line. According to the People’s Police, the Ukrainian military at that moment mined a site near the settlement of Seedling in the Donbass.
        According to the LPR, the Ukrainian authorities turned to the People’s Militia with a request to ensure the conditions to evacuate the bodies of two dead servicemen of the Armed Forces. Osadchy explained that to this day Kiev has not taken any action to take the bodies of the dead soldiers.
        People’s police found out the whereabouts of the body of one of the victims.
        It was decided to evacuate the forces of the Lugansk representative office in the Joint Center for Control and Coordination (JCCC) of the ceasefire and the public organization "Union of Afghanistan Veterans".
        At that moment, when the employees arrived at the place, the Ukrainian security forces opened fire on them from grenade launchers. Observers of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission (SMM) became witnesses of the incident.
        Osadchy clarified that the victims were avoided thanks to the professionalism and vigilance of the officers of the JCCC.
        According to Osadchy, at 18:45 APU again violated the ceasefire. The Ukrainian security forces fired at the area of ​​the settlement of Sokolniki.
        As a result of the incident, one officer of the People’s Militia was injured, he has already been provided with the necessary medical care.
        1. asv363
          asv363 12 August 2019 03: 21
          +2
          That's right, but one detail:

          “During the initial examination of the body and the available equipment, it was revealed that there was a special device for metrological purposes - an anemometer, used by spotters of sniper pairs,” Osadchy continued.
          http://lug-info.com/news/one/ofitsery-lnr-i-afgantsy-pod-ognem-vsu-evakuirovali-iz-seroi-zony-telo-kievskogo-silovika-47643
  5. lucul
    lucul 11 August 2019 14: 36
    +1
    The second day Kiev does not evacuate the bodies of sappers blown up on their mines

    Don’t you know what power is in / in Ukraine?
    Yes, they do not care about the goyim .....
  6. Baloo
    Baloo 11 August 2019 14: 52
    +7
    The brigade commander of the 54th brigade, Colonel Aleksey Maistrenko, "kindly offered to buy" accurate maps of the minefields installed on the site. However, the new commander of the 72nd brigade, Colonel Artem Bogomolov, fundamentally refused the deal.

    Reactions from the commander in chief banderlog not follow? KVN, KVN, KVN .... Maidown of the brain can be cured only by a grave digger in a cemetery. Condolences to mothers.
    1. lucul
      lucul 11 August 2019 14: 54
      -1
      Condolences to mothers.

      I recommend listening to a telephone conversation between Kolomoisky and Tsarev ....
      Type in a search engine.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 11 August 2019 20: 56
      +2
      Yeah, son and dad! Critters.
  7. knn54
    knn54 11 August 2019 15: 01
    +2
    APU continues to kill its own power.
  8. evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 August 2019 15: 12
    +6
    And why give any guarantees to people who want to kill you? It's like in 41-45gg to give guarantees for the Fritz to exit the boilers of the environment, do not you find? They put all the mines themselves, they themselves kicked from their cards, sent their own to mines, let them think on their own how to take their blind men. And there will remain so little grief over the pots.
    1. Bshkaus
      Bshkaus 11 August 2019 17: 53
      +3
      This is like in 41-45gg to give guarantees of the Fritz exit from the boilers environment, do not you?

      Do you know the history of WWII well? there were a lot of cases when the Germans deliberately left the corridors for retreat without closing the boilers in order to avoid unnecessary casualties during the assault. Especially in the second half of the 44th, when they reached the border of the USSR.
      It was much easier to give a retreat than to encircle the city and hinder the efforts to eliminate the boiler, including with great losses for itself.
      1. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 11 August 2019 18: 09
        +2
        Quote: Bshkaus
        It was much easier to give a retreat than to encircle the city and hinder the efforts to eliminate the boiler, including with great losses for itself.

        Street fighting is the most bloody, therefore it is better to release from the city and beat in the open field.
        Or beat in the open field and cut off the retreat to the city. For example, as in the storming of Berlin.
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 11 August 2019 19: 11
          -2
          I doubt such steps — it’s even easier if you already surrounded the city — to block the city and give children and old women an outlet, and the rest will come out of hunger than to drive then masses of armed men through the same fields.
  9. Bykov.
    Bykov. 11 August 2019 15: 53
    +1
    There is no loss.
  10. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 11 August 2019 16: 00
    +4
    Let them not climb where they do not ask. Bayonets to the ground and to the hut, because real enemies in Kiev are sitting, not in the Donbass.
  11. Xenofont
    Xenofont 11 August 2019 16: 10
    +3
    "High, high relationship !!!" in the "strongest army" of Europopa!
  12. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 11 August 2019 16: 38
    +1
    Business. And nothing more.
  13. Vyacheslav Gatskan
    Vyacheslav Gatskan 11 August 2019 16: 45
    +2
    Everything is much simpler, Kiev hastened to declare them dead as a result of breaking the silence, the local commanders naturally frayed with grievances about the garnitia for the removal of the bodies. But then a two-edged sword at the top then fired, and then self-explosion ....... so they decide how to pick it up without publicity, if it were necessary to conduct an autopsy quickly on the spot with a forgery, and then the press snoops around and how the OSCE heard the second version .... in short, if relatives of the dead do not lift kipis, the poor fellows will be written off, and when the truth is revealed it’s already it will not matter (((
  14. LeonidL
    LeonidL 11 August 2019 16: 57
    +4
    Greed didn’t destroy the fraer; greed did not destroy the fraer miners.
  15. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 11 August 2019 17: 44
    +2
    I think everything is much simpler: the fact is that the bodies are on the minefield, the map of which the APU themselves do not know. Therefore, from the LDNR side, guarantees can be given as much as desired, but no one guarantees that the group that goes to pick up the bodies will not run into mines.
    1. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 11 August 2019 18: 16
      +1
      Quote: Bshkaus
      no one guarantees that the group that goes to pick up the bodies will not run into mines.

      That is yes. Have to make a passage in the minefield. There are few volunteers. After all, there will almost certainly be mines installed on non-recoverability.
    2. beeper
      beeper 12 August 2019 20: 48
      0
      Quote: Bshkaus
      I think everything is much simpler: the fact is that the bodies are on the minefield, the map of which the APU themselves do not know. Therefore, from the LDNR side, guarantees can be given as much as desired, but no one guarantees that the group that goes to pick up the bodies will not run into mines.

      In addition to unknown mines, in the same place, on the line of contact, "unknown snipers" from the national gangs and NATO (the main beneficiaries of this bloodshed in Ukraine!) Are also firing restlessly - they are breaking the "truce" in every possible way - so that the internecine carnage does not subside!
      So it was at the Kiev "Euromaidan", and now!
  16. Tuzik
    Tuzik 11 August 2019 17: 51
    +1
    "The brigade commander of the 54th brigade, Colonel Aleksey Maistrenko," kindly offered to buy "accurate maps of the minefields installed on the site. However, the new commander of the 72nd brigade, Colonel Artem Bogomolov, fundamentally refused the deal and gave instructions to conduct engineering reconnaissance of the area and draw up mine maps. fields to their engineering units "

    I'm certainly far from the army, but it’s hard to believe in such idiocy
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 August 2019 18: 16
      +2
      And this is just what comes to us, and what is really going on ...
    2. akarfoxhound
      akarfoxhound 12 August 2019 00: 26
      +1
      Hex to do. I'm serious. It is with faith that inner decency brings you :) This is not the limit. It happens even cooler in human stupidity
  17. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 11 August 2019 17: 59
    0
    I believe about corpses and about maps of minefields that sell them, a joke. hi
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 August 2019 18: 17
      +3
      Quote: ibn.shamai
      I believe about corpses and about maps of minefields that sell them, a joke. hi


      The anecdote is the formation of VNA, so do not be surprised.
  18. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 11 August 2019 18: 20
    -1
    Colonel Aleksey Maistrenko "kindly offered to buy" accurate maps of minefields installed on the site


    This is not a colonel, and not a soldier at all, this is some kind of pan chieftain. Buy, damn it fool
    Only obscene words climb into my head about this.
    Let them take away their rotten meat.
  19. Silent cat
    Silent cat 11 August 2019 19: 03
    +1
    Or maybe the bad ones ended for them? Pick up from the minefield without a card?
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  21. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 20: 49
    +1
    No warranties. Raven evacuates.
  22. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 20: 52
    +2
    Quote: ibn.shamai
    I believe about corpses and about maps of minefields that sell them, a joke. hi

    And in vain. In the country of fools there is a field of miracles. From Poland to Russia, this field. If in 20 years they sold out all weapons that could still be dragged to the bazaar, then what about a piece of paper? Easy.
  23. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 20: 55
    +2
    Quote: Holgerton
    You want to say that the LPR intelligence is worse than the CIA and the GRU, since it knows what the brigade commanders are talking about?

    And where does the CIA? there are relatives on both sides of the barricades. And this is much worse. Or did he go to school only to the toilet, to smoke away from his father and belt? What was going on in Civil? Graduate.
  24. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 02
    0
    Quote: VO3A
    I want to clarify ... For everyone and even for ... Zelensky.
    Now in the Bandera army, complete morons have reached colonels, who were graduated from the semi-disbanded military schools of the Outskirts during the period of complete and final disintegration of the army there, which falls on 1998-2005 ... At this time, all self-respecting officers left this army, and in cadets were idiots who could only be taken to a madhouse ... they were mistaken for fat and bribes ... This is now the "golden" fund of Ukrainian senior officers .... How to manage them, how they build their "great" army , it is impossible to understand or simply impossible ... So there is nothing to be surprised at ...



    I looked. Scared. Thought, maybe before the war to give up?
  25. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 04
    0
    Quote: cniza
    But there is nothing worse than a stupid opponent.

    You are deeply mistaken. There is nothing worse, no enemy stronger than you yourself. He knows everything about you, everything can be foreseen.
  26. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 06
    +1
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Captive
    Now he can attach a couple more bracelets.

    He wore those bracelets for the sailors.
    And if for these, then at least as Papuan from head to toe

    A pair of dozens of bracelets to his causal place. The piano will sound louder.
  27. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 11
    -1
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: NF68
    In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

    But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.

    and we have in the "Urals" with a kherurg drives ... norms? Chapito ...

    What are you not satisfied with? Didn’t they take you? Your business is revenge the take-off field, you are not worthy of such an honor.
    Loud action. Good irritant forever green. Wait, many will follow Putin’s example. Powder and flew on an airplane. The bastard regrets that he does not have a submarine. I could not rise from the bridge. What a pity. But the hang glider did not climb. There are few engines for him. So, under the baseboard and have to huddle.
  28. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 13
    0
    Quote: brat07
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: NF68
    In the Armed Forces and the living it is not much taken care of, but only corpses.

    But then the joking president with bracelets walks and praises them before Erdogan.

    and we have in the "Urals" with a kherurg drives ... norms? Chapito ...

    Sorry, but your statement is not very smart.
    My minus.

    And mine.
  29. awg75
    awg75 11 August 2019 21: 24
    0
    Personally, I believe that a state called Ukraine with d about xl about.
  30. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 38
    0
    Quote: evgen1221
    And why give any guarantees to people who want to kill you? It's like in 41-45gg to give guarantees for the Fritz to exit the boilers of the environment, do not you find? They put all the mines themselves, they themselves kicked from their cards, sent their own to mines, let them think on their own how to take their blind men. And there will remain so little grief over the pots.

    I agree. I will add: an army that does not take away the injured (living) from the battlefield is not capable of fighting. She can only go to parades. Yes, on the parquet floor lezginka dance.
    There are many guys, on any side, of any nationality, who are able to go and die defending their homeland. But to die wounded a hundred meters from their own, not everyone. Ask for help and do not wait. Especially, it affects the not yet wounded. One has only to imagine that no one will come after him, although only 100 meters to his ..... And no sailors will come of him.
  31. Rwmos
    Rwmos 11 August 2019 21: 40
    +1
    Oh, not news. How Zakharchenko personally shoved the Ukrainian Armed Forces coffins with the bodies of their flattened 3,14dorgs - there was a song, who should bury their "heroes" at all ?! And after all, not in bulk sacks - they dug them out, put them in the coffins, brought them - and they don't take them away again - APU put on them! Well, it was like that!
  32. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 11 August 2019 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: Bshkaus
    This is like in 41-45gg to give guarantees of the Fritz exit from the boilers environment, do not you?

    Do you know the history of WWII well? there were a lot of cases when the Germans deliberately left the corridors for retreat without closing the boilers in order to avoid unnecessary casualties during the assault. Especially in the second half of the 44th, when they reached the border of the USSR.
    It was much easier to give a retreat than to encircle the city and hinder the efforts to eliminate the boiler, including with great losses for itself.

    The military philosopher Clausewitz said that "If you have a retreating enemy in front of you, and a river interferes with his retreat, build him a golden bridge."
  33. Vladimir Nizhegorodsky
    Vladimir Nizhegorodsky 11 August 2019 23: 40
    +2
    Dog-dog death.
    To murderers of civilians of Donbass God's punishment.
  34. sgr291158
    sgr291158 12 August 2019 09: 04
    0
    Looks like a wake dragged on, not to the bodies now.
  35. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik 12 August 2019 14: 29
    +2
    What an unpretentious, and apparently profitable ... but in fact a bloody business ... a vivid example of a market economy and competition in a separate economic segment ...
  36. igorbrsv
    igorbrsv 12 August 2019 15: 49
    +1
    . This incident occurred due to the lack of a minefield map of the new unit established by its predecessors.

    Well, that's why they don’t take it, despite the guarantees.
  37. yehat
    yehat 12 August 2019 16: 15
    0
    some daring sappers - they have no protection against even the weakest anti-personnel mines.
    my classmate, when he was a sapper, he worked in a thick spacesuit.