PRC media: China intends to conquer Aviadarts with a new JH-7AII model

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The PLA Air Force decided this year to participate in the Aviadarts contest on an upgraded version of the JH-7 fighter-bomber. In the 2018 year, his previous modification JH-7A demonstrated its best qualities by defeating the Russian classmate Su-34.





Chinese pilots were able to show amazing results and surpass military pilots from Russia. Obviously, this is not only a victory in the competition, but also a reputation for the Chinese Air Force.

- wrote then the Chinese media, forgetting to clarify that the victory was achieved in one of many exercises.

Now Beijing intends to re-conquer the audience, consolidating its success. Among other cars featured a new model JH-7AII. She was seen in the Russian Federation during a static show at the opening ceremony of the competition. Moreover, there is no information in the information field that could characterize this machine.

According to a military expert from Beijing, Wei Donghu, who was contacted by the Chinese publication Global Times, there are no significant changes in the aerodynamic design compared to the JH-7A modification, the differences should be sought in the internal layout. Apparently, JH-7AII has a more advanced radar and improved avionics. According to him, it is likely that the new car can carry more weapons, increasing its firepower.

Participation in a competition held abroad shows that the recently upgraded combat aircraft is technically mature and available for combat duty.

- said Wei.

At the same time, as the Global Times points out, a number of Chinese analysts previously stated that there are not many opportunities for improving the JH-7. Some even suggested that the PLA could send him into “retirement," especially after the J-16, which could play a similar role as a fighter-bomber, entered service.

Xian JH-7 made its first flight in the 1988 year, a modification of the JH-7A - in the 2002 year.

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  1. +16
    11 August 2019 02: 33
    Even outwardly, this aircraft looks like a hybrid of the Jaguar and the MiG-23. I do not think that it is much superior to the Su-24, not to mention the Su-34. The Chinese have recently flooded the Internet with articles about their best tanks, or about airplanes. Aggressive marketing. I would call the data of fiction
    1. +4
      11 August 2019 05: 53
      I do not think that he is much superior to the Su-24, not to mention the Su-34

      In terms of radar, it can be quite superior, ours is traditionally a weak spot, and indeed in on-board electronics
      1. -1
        11 August 2019 07: 43
        Quote: armata_armata
        ours is traditionally a weak spot

        Just not on the Su-34.
        1. 0
          11 August 2019 16: 59
          If you believe the tabular data, then the Chinese have superiority over the Su-24 in almost all positions - thrust-weight ratio (more powerful engines, less weight), range, avionics.
          Even over the Su-34 for thrust-weight ratio, but not aerodynamics.
          Equal range \ radius, bomb load.
          The rest is the training and luck of the pilots.
          And of course, the Su-34 is much better in maneuverable combat.
          1. +1
            11 August 2019 18: 43
            Quote: bayard
            And of course, the Su-34 is much better in maneuverable combat.

            This is a bomber jacket.
            1. +2
              11 August 2019 18: 50
              Of course a bomber, but in a maneuvering battle (which he is still capable of waging) he is better than the Chinese counterpart, who cannot lead this battle.
          2. 0
            12 August 2019 08: 18
            Quote: bayard
            Avionics.

            It is possible in detail, what exactly is it better?
            1. 0
              12 August 2019 15: 20
              Compared to the Su-24 - almost everything. With Su-34 approximate parity.
          3. 0
            12 August 2019 11: 40
            Why trifle. Set against the Chinese Su-30. Upgraded option. The Chinese are on the fighter.
          4. 0
            12 August 2019 18: 57
            Quote: bayard
            thrust-to-weight ratio (more powerful engines

            2 × 55,83 kN (5700 kgf) JH-7
            2 × 76,5 kN (7800 kgf) Su24
            2 × 80.9 kN (8 kgf) Su250
            Quote: bayard
            less weight)

            14500 blank on a striped wikipedia. Okay, he has a mass less than Su24 and Su34, but he has a mass less than F22! (19700) and even less F35B! (14600). Seriously? laughing
            Quote: bayard
            Avionics

            Here from this place in more detail and with proofs
            1. +1
              12 August 2019 20: 08
              Quote: user1212
              2 × 55,83 kN (5700 kgf) JH-7

              You presented the data on the first version, and we are talking about the modification of JH-7AI \ -7AII, which has 71.29 kN non-afterburner thrust, and 138.27 kN afterburner. , which gives a higher thrust-to-weight ratio with less weight (see "Corner of the Sky").
              Aerodynamics certainly does not shine and the view is more clumsy. Nevertheless, the range is 3650 km. , combat radius 1650 km.
              Victory at last year's Aviadarts willy-nilly speaks for itself, and he competed with our Su-34. The human factor can certainly affect (our pilots were worried or the eye was combed at the wrong time), training, etc., but the fact is a fact.
              To compare the latest version of the Chinese and our Su-24 veterans on avionics is simply incorrect, and the mention of them was only a reaction to the comment on the forum.
              The approximate parity in avionics of the latest version with our Su-34 is quite explainable by the fact that it went into production in the form in which it was at 2008 and nothing really changed in it. In the upcoming upgraded version of the Su-34, everything should be much better.

              To be honest, the characteristics of JH-7AI \ II surprised me myself, but the Chinese were ready to abandon it in favor of the Su-30 ...

              Personally, I like the Su-34 much more - both purely aesthetically, and in terms of modernization potential, and out of pure patriotism (love for the motherland), but the Chinese really surprised by stretching a very mediocre aircraft to a very acceptable level (engines and avionics did their job).
              1. 0
                13 August 2019 05: 04
                Quote: bayard
                You presented data on the first version, and we are talking about the modification of JH-7AI \ -7AII

                About replacing the engine on which there is no information
                Quote: bayard
                whose afterburner thrust is 71.29 kN and afterburner has 138.27 kN

                Did you write a corner of the sky? And nothing that this Chinese copy of the Rolls Royce RB.168 Spey Mk.202 (from F4 Phantom II), even in the fantasies of the creators, did not have such a thrust? These characteristics are given for "a promising Chinese engine of its own design." We all already know what successes the Chinese have in their own engine development
                Quote: bayard
                Nevertheless, the range is 3650 km. , combat radius of 1650 km.

                Doesn’t it bother you with anything in these numbers? How is it that two combat ones give a distillation with an error of 10%? Wikipedia, both ours and English, gives a much more real 900km, but English clarifies that 1650km is a refueling in the air. In general, all these are value judgments. No official information
                Quote: bayard
                To compare the latest version of the Chinese and our Su-24 veterans on avionics is simply incorrect, and the mention of them was only a reaction to the comment on the forum

                Why? I have little faith that in the 90s the Chinese themselves developed helmet-mounted target designation. Who could they copy and paste it from? I'll put three salaries on a copy of our "Slit" There is also a Russian radio intelligence container AKR-8 and a Chinese Doppler radar JL-10A with the following characteristics
                Frequency: Xband
                Maximum detection range: 104 km
                Maximum look-up tracking range: 80 km
                Maximum look-down tracking range: 54 km
                Maximum look-up engagement range: 40 km
                Maximum look-down engagement range: 32 km
                Total modes of operation: 11
                Sector of scan: +/- 60 degrees
                Maximum targets tracked: 15
                Maximum targets involved: 6

                That's never impressive, even compared to the Su24M
                Although they put LCD screens, well done good laughing
                1. 0
                  13 August 2019 11: 42
                  And yet the fact remains
                  Quote: donavi49
                  In 2017 year - they won gold at the Aviadarts.
                  In the 2018 year - they won the pair’s flight to attack the ground target with the Su-34. However, they could not score enough points in other categories (helicopters, transport aircraft, etc.) and took silver.

                  They got a good airplane.
                  As for the engines, they had Rolls-Royce from Phantom on the first versions, which did not shine with characteristics and the Chinese even wanted to abandon it in favor of their version of the Su-30, but ... then they decided to make an upgrade - the engines from their clones of our Su-27 \ 30 \ 33 (Ukrainian engineers still achieved a good resource and compliance with the characteristics of the AL-31F) and a new avionics. And the plane turned out.
                  In range, here it’s rather not with refueling, but with PTB, and the engines have become more economical.
                  Quote: user1212
                  Doesn’t it bother you with anything in these numbers? How is it that two combat ones give a distillation with an error of 10%?

                  In no way - the combat radius, this is a round-trip flight with WORK IN THE ZONE. Plus NS on 10 - 15 minutes of flight for approaching the second circle at approach. It was always thought so.
                  And there is information about the Chinese engine. They gave birth to him for a long time \ brought, could not get a decent resource ... But they all worked out. Most recently, this was trumpeted into all Chinese pipes ... of course with a hyperbole, but it matches the AL-31F parameters quite well (though it was made not on its basis, but on the basis of the American gas generator and the long agony of the work of Ukrainian engineers - 10 -15 years were tortured) .
                  We will see how it will perform at the current Aviadarts, but it’s worthwhile to pay tribute to the Chinese engineers and pilots.
                  And make new versions of Su-34 and Su-30СМ.
    2. +11
      11 August 2019 08: 44
      In 2017 year - they won gold at the Aviadarts.
      In the 2018 year - they won the pair’s flight to attack the ground target with the Su-34. However, they could not score enough points in other categories (helicopters, transport aircraft, etc.) and took silver.
    3. -2
      11 August 2019 09: 57
      Quote: Magic Archer
      this plane looks like a hybrid of the Jaguar and the Mig-23

      Size is clearly neither related to I, nor to M.
      Chinese "Mix". One of many.
      The non-bomber is a fighter.
      1. +4
        11 August 2019 17: 11
        Quite a decent tactical bomber. And it surpasses the Su-24 practically (i.e. actually) in all respects.
        And in almost all positions corresponds to the Su-34, except for maneuverability.
      2. 0
        12 August 2019 08: 40
        More like a tornado ...
  2. +9
    11 August 2019 02: 43
    The leadership of the Chinese team of the Aviadarts contest compares the Army with the Olympic Games
    https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12245294@egNews

    “We are flying to Russia for the sixth time to participate in the Aviadarts international competition. Since 2014, we annually participate in such events. Of course, holding such competitions is very important for training military pilots. Such a competition can be compared with the Olympics. Very high importance is attached to such competitions. For participation, we sent domestic-made aircraft, and we want to participate in such competitions, regardless of where they are held. I hope that the scale of such competitions will only expand, ”said Deputy Chief of Staff of the PLA Air Force Major General Dong Li.

    “I highly appreciate the level of preparation and organization of the competition. Enough competitions have passed, the rules and requirements have passed the stage of formation and changes and are now well known to everyone. I believe that participation in such a competition will contribute to the promotion of world peace. I hope for the further development of such competitions, ”concluded Major General Dong Li, deputy chief of staff of the PLA Air Force.
  3. +5
    11 August 2019 02: 44
    Right intention, I approve. Come, conquer, it will be interesting)).
    1. +9
      11 August 2019 03: 18
      Quote: Candidate of Military Sciences
      Right intention, I approve. Come, conquer, it will be interesting)).

      no matter what they say, the Chinese are growing. in tank biathlon, 2nd place on his tank, says a lot.
      1. +4
        11 August 2019 05: 16
        I agree, over the past 20 years, they have become higher growth, noticed? )
        1. +3
          11 August 2019 05: 50
          By the way, they have a whole policy there for enlarging military personnel. I happened to stumble upon a translated article from some interesting Chinese magazine, where their soldier talked about, if briefly, that they say that the Chinese soldiers in the army should be heavily fed, and if they are small, then they should continue to solder. In short, the classical method of gaining muscle mass for athletes went further
          1. +15
            11 August 2019 06: 04
            Look better at their science, thanks to the achievements of which genetic correction of the population will soon begin there as an official state program for the health of the nation. They are not Europeans, their elites lack most of the moral taboos formed in European culture; they are unprincipled and able to easily turn all our fears about the Eternal into reality. Follow the news - this century will be very "fun", nobody will be bored.
            1. +1
              11 August 2019 06: 09
              And what to look at, in the same article there was a conclusion from the Chinese boot that such a policy leads to the generation of a new generation of soldiers, favorably different from the rest of the population, which, coupled with a policy of selecting the most tall soldiers in the army, leads to the reproduction of the Chinese new look. Well, they say, boots, healthy, well-fed, they somehow enviable grooms, then ...
              Actually pure selection. count the same yaks, the side view that genetic engineering is also genetics, just the intervention in the genome is not operational, but by the selection of representatives. Dragging something familiar from the Third Reich songs. Sorry, I can not remember. that of paper (((
              1. 0
                11 August 2019 06: 14
                That's right ... but not fast enough. They will speed up and cross many bans for this. We will think that this has not happened so far, since not caught is not a thief.
              2. +1
                11 August 2019 11: 13
                For the Chinese bride, the most important thing is the availability of money from the groom. And for the bride's parents too. In China, there are fewer women than men, so they behave there quite differently from ours. Like, if only a man was at hand. If that - quietly leave and get divorced. So fattened Chinese soldiers will not cause an increase in ordinary Chinese in size.
                Now in China, like ours, it is full of fast food. A lot of cars. Offices. Sedentary work. In general, the standard of living has increased. They began to eat more. Therefore, a lot of fat people appeared.
              3. 0
                11 August 2019 12: 20
                Not fast enough, will be faster ....
            2. +4
              11 August 2019 07: 14
              Quote: RWMos
              By the way, they have a whole policy there for enlarging military personnel.
              Quote: PhD in Military Science
              Look better at their science, thanks to the achievements of which the gene correction of the population will soon begin there ...
              Follow the news - this century will be very "fun", nobody will be bored.
              Until the end of this century I will not hold out, so I had to use my imagination. laughing
              1. +1
                11 August 2019 11: 00
                )) Yes, it’s true, something ...
            3. -4
              11 August 2019 10: 06
              Quote: PhD in Military Science
              Look better at their science,

              Quote: PhD in Military Science
              They are not Europeans

              You yourself answered your thoughts.
              Narrow-film people, in essence, cannot do science (they cannot drink vodka either, this is one of their genetic characteristics). Unlike the white man, they have a problem with "notions".
              And this cannot be fixed, not now, not in the future.
              They can only COPY and COMBINE.
              This applies to everyone - Japanese, Koreans, Chinese.
              "Unfortunately ...." I will not write.
              I do not regret it.
              1. 0
                11 August 2019 10: 58
                Quote: DED_peer_DED
                This applies to everyone - the Japanese,

                With the Japanese, however, you got excited.
                1. -4
                  11 August 2019 11: 00
                  No.
                  With fundamental science and with them, tight.
              2. +1
                11 August 2019 12: 32
                You are as much deluded as you are biased about the culture of our closest neighbor. An example for you already exists - these are the Japanese. An example of how fatally wrong your "judgments" and the consequences of delusions like yours, you can see in the history of wars of the last century. There you will see their science and everything else. ... For neglecting the "narrow-film" one had to pay too dearly and precisely in blood and humiliation. Those things that exist now are many times worse than what they were then .... In general, you shouldn't show your naked ass to mad dogs while drunk - this is the "Chinese" philosophy that has come into force today.
              3. +1
                11 August 2019 12: 49
                Here's how to tell. The bottom line is that they drank a lot, they have to catch up. So it’s generally the same gunpowder, compass, paper and typography - the name is 4 of the great Chinese inventions. They like the Arabs - civilization at one moment did not have time for the general development - and turned out to be outsiders. If you started from a zero mark - who else knows who would overtake whom. And so - while they are catching up.
                But what is, that is, they have much more desire to "do as they said" rather than invent, but this is a double-edged sword, in the Russian Federation, for example, it is a tradition - they start smoking instructions only when the smoke has already gone out of the unit laughing
          2. +2
            11 August 2019 10: 09
            Quote: RWMos
            By the way, they have a whole policy there for enlarging military personnel.

            Read after which the Vietnamese stopped fighting on takeoff.
            After the introduction of Russian borsch in their diet.
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    1. +6
      11 August 2019 04: 42
      China never wanted to devour anything from us. to the one who this game about the Far East and the Urals in the internet scribbles a nail into the head you need to drive. if the Chinese need him, what are they moving from the north to the south of their country in huge numbers?
      1. +3
        11 August 2019 04: 45
        Quote: carstorm 11
        China never wanted to devour anything from us. to the one who this game about the Far East and the Urals in the internet scribbles a nail into the head you need to drive.

        Damansky.
        1. +7
          11 August 2019 05: 00
          this is a border conflict. quite small compared to any other that we have on the western borders for centuries. Europe has been invaded by armies for centuries. killed millions. that's who really wanted to eat us and wants to. and that conflict ... we now have even theoretically border disputes with China and cannot be.
          1. +4
            11 August 2019 05: 17
            Quote: carstorm 11
            this is a border conflict. quite small compared to any other that we have on the western borders for centuries.

            with China, too, since the 16th century, conflicts (Qin), Albazin, up to 15 thousand participated, not "small" already, the CER again, (there are already up to 300 thousand) is also not "small". and Damansky is not "petty", if it were not for the stunning blow by "hails" for China, it is not known what the conflict would have developed into.
            1. +2
              11 August 2019 05: 51
              remind you of the size of the island? 1000 to 100 meters if rounded. I do not deny the existence of these conflicts. I say that, compared with the western borders, they do not even call them serious. and just for this reason, to consider China as something dangerous does not make sense. at least in comparison with the same Europe. small skirmishes in a miserable amount generally do not go.
              1. +3
                11 August 2019 06: 12
                Quote: carstorm 11
                remind you of the size of the island?

                to you, what further is beyond the island to remind? do you think they would stop taking the island? I won’t even bicker with you, there are facts, but you’re probably just trolling.
                1. 0
                  11 August 2019 12: 01
                  do you even know how it all began to say this? There is a fact of conflict, and I do not deny it. but sorry, of course, we would like to develop something, we would go in a completely different place and not on a bare island.
              2. +2
                11 August 2019 08: 20
                Quote: carstorm 11
                remind you of the size of the island? 1000 to 100 meters if rounded. I do not deny the existence of these conflicts. I say that, compared with the western borders, they do not even call them serious. and just for this reason, to consider China as something dangerous does not make sense. at least in comparison with the same Europe. small skirmishes in a miserable amount generally do not go.

                Dangerous, not dangerous, but got his way, - Damansky still took with a bunch of islands, and not only islands, in addition. In a few years, he will repeat claims for something else. And again, quietly, little by little, but will get what he wants. And we will all hope that the Chinay people are not aggressive, that the West is a real danger. Let's play it out.
                1. +1
                  11 August 2019 12: 03
                  will not be repeated. the border issue is closed. there were a lot of things before and after about this. but the fact of closing this issue cannot be denied either.
              3. -1
                11 August 2019 10: 18
                Quote: carstorm 11
                remind you of the size of the island

                It was a test of the "pen". Feel the USSR's belly.
                And then more.
                We felt, got sick.
                1. -2
                  11 August 2019 12: 05
                  and who is arguing? need to answer and answered. have you been felt for centuries all the time? I would even say that this inevitably happens to everyone. you just have to respond. which actually happened.
          2. +1
            11 August 2019 06: 17
            Dim - and you're wrong how to explain. What kind of goa are you, I'm without jokes. we composed songs about DAMANSKY and we know everything to the drop
          3. +1
            11 August 2019 09: 24
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Europe has invaded us for centuries

            Yes, she is unchanged in this. But China has changed over the past 40 years, completely different. Prayers of GDP for jerks are empty. In a biological sense, we cannot repeat the specific growth of China - it has its own elite, and we have temporary workers who are not creatively wealthy. In a conceptual sense, we, like Europe, with a weight of the biblical paradigm on our feet. China was able to go into the ladies. We do not set a goal to replace our marginal and retrograde management, we are afraid that it would not become worse than it is. The creator people are afraid of creativity.
            1. -3
              11 August 2019 10: 22
              Quote: Alexander Ra
              China - it has its own elite

              Yes.
              In this they were lucky.
              Their film is narrow.
              And we have that the Russians, the Jews - the same.
              I wrote myself a "horse surname" .... that's it, you're Russian.
              They can’t do that. Narrow film. laughing
        2. +3
          11 August 2019 06: 03
          Damansky, for the saints of mine, flooded, received. I wouldn’t want Putin to be late, the politician should be in time for everything - otherwise he.
      2. +4
        11 August 2019 05: 03
        The war with Vietnam.
        1. -3
          11 August 2019 05: 08
          in which we were on one side? what does it have to do with it?
          1. 0
            11 August 2019 06: 18
            Quote: carstorm 11
            in which we were on one side? what does it have to do with it?

            everything is clear with you ...
            1. -2
              11 August 2019 06: 32
              everything is clear with you ...

              And what, you know the Soviet-Chinese battles of 1979, well, so share)
              1. +1
                11 August 2019 07: 59
                From the guys of the spring draft of 1979, who had just taken the oath, right in the training, in a "voluntary-compulsory"))), they collected reports with a request to send them to serve in the Socialist Republic of Vietnam to provide international assistance to the fraternal people of Vietnam. Exactly the same thing was done by us - the yellow-mongers, who had just taken the military oath, only with a request to send us to Afghanistan in December of the same year. As far as I know, no one has given up on this. True, I do not know a single one who was actually sent on these requests, but the very fact of collecting "wishes" took place, just in case.
                1. -1
                  11 August 2019 10: 24
                  Quote: Herrr
                  Exactly the same thing was done by us - the Yellowhorns, who had just taken the military oath, only with a request to send us to Afghanistan

                  I have a brother-in-law in the last year at the school (it was after an urgent one) he wrote an application to Afghanistan.
                  Not allowed. We talked, dissuaded.
                  I do not believe you.
                  1. 0
                    11 August 2019 10: 35
                    Do not trust the participant in the event? what There was only drooling, because words could not be found ...
            2. -2
              11 August 2019 12: 10
              which is understandable? the man said about the Vietnam war. I replied. if the conversation would go about the conflict between Vietnam and China, I would answer. in terms of a little more precise need to be.
          2. +2
            11 August 2019 07: 38
            Quote: carstorm 11
            in which we were on one side? what does it have to do with it?
            Yes, we were on the same side ... with Vietnam. A lot has been written about this, read it. It is interesting.
          3. +1
            11 August 2019 08: 01
            I mean the war of China with Vietnam. And not the Vietnam War, where we were on the same side, against the states.
            1. 0
              11 August 2019 08: 05
              We were ALWAYS ALWAYS on the same side with Vietnam. smile
              1. -2
                11 August 2019 12: 24
                with which north or south?)))
                1. +1
                  11 August 2019 12: 26
                  With the winner through our joint efforts!)))
      3. +1
        11 August 2019 05: 29
        Dim, you said such nonsense.
        1. -1
          11 August 2019 05: 57
          can you give an example of the bloody battles of us and the Chinese in Vietnam?) let's. I will close flaws in education. I've been talking with the Chinese all my life. hostility not even met a hint. rather the opposite.
    2. -1
      11 August 2019 06: 22
      He now wants to devour us. At the official meeting of the defense ministers, they announced that we had arrived and now we will not leave. No one has any illusions about this. Just what does this change in the general situation? .... Do not let yourself eat, drive them to the neck, and let the military cooperate - they have their own affairs.
    3. -1
      11 August 2019 07: 01
      This is your opinion, and I live with it.
    4. -3
      11 August 2019 10: 16
      Quote: bald
      China wanted to eat us

      Got cons from victims of the exam?
      And he won't choke even now. They teach schoolchildren to this day that Siberia is a primordially Chinese territory and that it (Siberia) will soon go to the "rightful owner."
      Siberia has been noted in textbooks as the territory of China.
      And, here we are "friends" praises, we sing.
      And not only here.
      1. +5
        11 August 2019 12: 22
        nonsense. there is no such thing. this is from the series that Japanese schoolchildren believe that we dropped a nuclear bomb on them. stupid stuffing and like asses then persistently repeat it. it’s a lie. Thousands of our students study in China as well as Chinese in our country. students go to visit constantly. Tens of thousands of Russians work in China with what is not workers but in good positions. and only here some bloggers know everything and people’s brains are littered with such stuffing. I don’t suggest kissing them sucker. but worth respecting. and do not retype what is not.
      2. AAK
        +1
        11 August 2019 16: 46
        Colleagues, China has always adhered and adheres to the Confucian quotation "the path of ten thousand li begins with one step ...", and about making sure of the attitude of "ordinary" Chinese towards Russia and Russians, it is enough to observe groups of Chinese tourists in different cities of the Russian Federation (I myself observed it is in Moscow and St. Petersburg): absolute tactlessness, constant noise with complete disregard for the established rules and ignorance of others ... Example: Tsarskoe Selo, in the hall of 4 groups, incl. one Chinese with a guide, most likely, of our students, Chinese students, people listen to the guides, the Chinese stupidly shout and laugh among themselves, the guide of one of the groups makes a remark to a couple of Chinese - you can't shoot with a flash in this room, they are in ignore, like mine - don't understand yours, at the second comment of the guide, the entire Chinese group begins to shout aggressively, the same 2 Chinese continue to click flashes, after which the lady guide in the best Russian noble traditions, imperceptibly for the Chinese crowd, casually clicked one of the "brothers forever" with a fan, in general - "oil painting" ... The Chinese man got crazy, but stopped shooting with a flash ... Therefore (I quote personal beliefs) - China must be constantly kept in strictness but without any special harshness, well, somewhere like a well-educated pet, so as not into a little domestic despot ...
  5. -3
    11 August 2019 04: 43
    Laiba - made in China - says a lot, but serious corporations are remembered for a lifetime, China - like cockroaches (I don’t have at home).
    1. 0
      11 August 2019 05: 01
      and German? and Swedish and French? also ignore and not at home?
    2. +3
      11 August 2019 06: 04
      (I don’t have at home)

      There wouldn’t be, they didn’t sit and write, there would be nothing winked
    3. +1
      11 August 2019 07: 09
      There are so many pisyuns - I don’t want to catch it!
  6. +3
    11 August 2019 05: 38
    participate in the Aviadarts contest on a modernized version of the JH-7 fighter-bomber
    Everything is correct. It's one thing to praise "your swamp" in your media, and another to participate in international competitions where an impartial jury will determine the winner. A possible victory in "Aviadarts" at the same time will be a good advertisement for the aircraft.
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      1. +1
        11 August 2019 10: 27
        Quote: bald
        the monitor was lurking

        Conders in the power supply must be changed. Have dried up.
    2. +3
      11 August 2019 08: 46
      Well, a lot depends on your field. In 2017, the Aviadarts were won by the Chinese if that. VKS - took silver. In the 2018 year - the VKS scratched out victory at the expense of the remaining categories (helicopters, throwing cargo for accuracy) - because the Su-34 lost the flight category of a pair to attack a ground target. That is, in fact, it was this aircraft that took the 2 Aviadarts.
  7. -1
    11 August 2019 06: 31

    Chinese pilots were able to show amazing results and surpass military pilots from Russia. Obviously, this is not only a victory in the competition, but also a reputation for the Chinese Air Force.

    - wrote then the Chinese media, forgetting to clarify that the victory was achieved in one of many exercises.

    "I do not believe!" So far, comrades from a small, and not their own state will not decisively explain)), and additionally ... "I do not believe!" bully
  8. -1
    11 August 2019 06: 43
    This is all confusion, the military sales system remains, we forget it all, ordinary people, and they use it.
  9. +1
    11 August 2019 07: 03
    Well, say well done Chinese! Healthy competition for the skill of pilots and fighters ..
    And the US is afraid, not their style in the open
  10. -1
    11 August 2019 09: 46
    Quote: Herrr
    Until the end of this century I will not hold out, so I had to use my imagination.

    Having reached an agreement with China, Russia will return Alaska, California and other possessions in America, Asia, Europe, everywhere else. Nicholas I said: "Where the Russian flag was once raised, it can no longer be lowered."
  11. 0
    11 August 2019 11: 08
    The take-off weight of the JH-7A is five tons lower than the take-off weight of the Su-35 and by fifteen tons the Su-34.

    Those. JH-7A - neither fish nor meat.
  12. -2
    12 August 2019 04: 55
    Well done Chinese))) God forbid! and they need an incentive .. everyone should have rewards!
  13. +1
    12 August 2019 22: 30
    A plane copied from at least 4 types of other cars (for me, the nose part is MiG-25-31, the wing-body looks like a Tornado or Jaguar (not quite, but nearby), everything else, the Su-24) shoved up the fancy electronics (Samsung tablets :)) and a new radar (a redesigned old one with the Su-35) well, something like that .. bombs (American MK-81,2,3) CHINESE, Nurses (s-8 ours) are Chinese. Well, let everything stolen, but Chinese weapons are the best! :))))
  14. 0
    13 August 2019 23: 41
    Sorry, but the argument is about nothing. This is a competition of pilots, and not airplanes and breo, while it is practically not used. They throw blanks and use simple sights. In my opinion, it is even forbidden to use serious aiming equipment.

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