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In Ukraine, announced the modernization of boats Island received from the United States

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In Ukraine, it was decided to modernize the US Coast Guard Island Island patrol boats transferred to the Navy. The modernization options will be developed by the GP Experimental Design Center for Shipbuilding (OPCC), which is part of Ukroboronprom.


In Ukraine, announced the modernization of boats Island received from the United States


In Ukraine, the development of modernization options for American Island patrol boats, obtained by the Navy last year, has begun. The main direction of modernization is the maximum increase in combat effectiveness.

We are preparing proposals, and in the near future they will be presented to the command of the Navy. In our opinion, the project should provide that the modernization of Island boats should be carried out at the Nikolaev shipyard

- said Vadim Borisov, Director-General Designer of GP OPTsK, adding that the final version of modernization will be possible only after gaining practical experience in operating boats.

Recall that the US Navy in the year 2018 transferred to Ukraine decommissioned Coast Guard-class boats "Drummond" (WPB-1323) and "Cushing" (WPB-1321), built in 1988 and preserved in Baltimore.

Displacement - 169 t, length 34 m. Maximum speed - about 29,5 nodes. Crew - 16 man. Autonomy - up to 5 days. Before the transfer from the boats removed all weapons. Kiev pays for the modernization and repair of boats, their transportation to Odessa and personnel training.

Earlier, Ukrainian media reported. that the Navy command is in talks with the US Coast Guard to transfer four more boats of this type to Ukrainian sailors. The headquarters of the Navy said that after the introduction of all boats in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division will be formed from them, which will not only control the near sea zone, but will also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."

It also announced options for installing various weapons on boats - from mine-sweeping modules to the American Harpoon anti-ship missiles and the Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles.
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  1. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 15: 38
    +3
    We are preparing proposals, and in the near future they will be presented to the command of the Navy.

    Increase the number of oars or set sail?
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 August 2019 15: 44
      +8
      Quote: Honest Citizen

      Increase the number of oars or set sail?

      Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place. This is if we seriously assess the potential of the enemy.
      1. Honest Citizen
        Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 15: 46
        +9
        Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place

        Does Pan Ataman have a gold reserve for all these "modernizations"?
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 August 2019 16: 25
          +6
          Quote: Aaron Zawi

          Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place. This is if we seriously assess the potential of the enemy.


          If you just roll the katyusha onto the deck, but seriously, they don’t have enough money or intelligence, because all the brains were dispersed.
          1. Marconi41
            Marconi41 9 August 2019 16: 40
            +3
            Quote: cniza
            they don’t have enough money or intelligence

            Oh and in vain you are so about them. There are quite a few brains left to take away. The truth is worse with money, but they will certainly be helped. Well-wishers will be found unfortunately.
            1. cniza
              cniza 9 August 2019 16: 44
              +4
              But will these brainwash want to do something for the Bandera fascists and they will not be able to do it themselves, even if the US gives money, they will plunder.
              1. Marconi41
                Marconi41 9 August 2019 16: 46
                +2
                Quote: cniza
                But will these brainwashes want to do something for the Bandera fascists

                Of course they will. Families need to be fed.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 9 August 2019 17: 57
            +5
            Quote: cniza
            If you only roll the Katyusha onto the deck, but seriously
            Yes, it seems you don’t have to roll anything ...
            1. cniza
              cniza 9 August 2019 18: 01
              +2
              They have a lot of boats, and there is only one Katyusha, therefore they will drive from deck to deck.
          3. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 9 August 2019 19: 18
            0
            Quote: cniza

            If you just roll the katyusha onto the deck, but seriously, they don’t have enough money or intelligence, because all the brains were dispersed.

            Why Katyusha? So it’s quite possible.

            One RCC instead of two on the sides. Radar and control on the wheelhouse and quite a serious boat for coastal defense.
            1. StudentVK
              StudentVK 9 August 2019 20: 34
              +3
              you don’t understand one thing, that your approach is normal, but you exclude superfluity of ukrVSU and others. Take kickbacks then take ???? Why do you think they have mortars of the Second World War every third in disrepair? Or armored cars with cracked armor? and their recent scandal with bad body armor ??? This is not an accident but a pattern.
        2. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 9 August 2019 17: 52
          +1
          They will find it. In addition, the United States can help, they are already allocating hundreds of millions of dollars to "aid" Ukraine, and this is only what they have officially announced.

          So these boats are likely to carry the Neptune anti-ship missile system.
        3. alexmach
          alexmach 9 August 2019 19: 49
          0
          Does Pan Ataman have a gold reserve for all these "modernizations"?

          A couple of RCC?
          I will greatly surprise you if I say that almost everyone has it?
        4. Harry.km
          Harry.km 10 August 2019 04: 01
          0
          Quote: Honest Citizen
          Does Pan Ataman have a gold reserve for all these "modernizations"?

          It should be enough to translate from English to mov ...
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 10
        +2
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Put rocket weapons.

        I'm afraid that DShK is their ceiling. And someone stole the radar there, because in the photographs only the antenna of the civilian "furun" is visible.
        1. Marconi41
          Marconi41 9 August 2019 16: 49
          0
          Quote: Gray Brother
          I'm afraid that DShK is their ceiling.

          Why? These boats were originally mounted mount. You can change 25 mm (Already taken) to 30 mm as for the Forge boats.
          1. Gray brother
            Gray brother 9 August 2019 18: 02
            +2
            Quote: Marconi41
            Why so?

            It is almost not necessary to redo the curbstone. Inexpensive.
            The proud Sarktavello did so.
            1. Marconi41
              Marconi41 9 August 2019 18: 37
              +2
              Quote: Gray Brother
              The proud Sarktavello did so.

              Unlike Ukrainians, the Georgians used these boats for their intended purpose (coast guard), and our brothers want to make an attack mini-destroyer of them.
              1. Gray brother
                Gray brother 9 August 2019 18: 44
                0
                Quote: Marconi41
                them shock mini-destroyer.

                So they had a tire bearer once. The famous warship by the way - participated in two naval battles with the Horde.
                https://rurik-l.livejournal.com/3468629.html
      3. Marconi41
        Marconi41 9 August 2019 16: 34
        +1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place.

        If Neptune, then 4 boldly stand up. True guides will hang above the water. And their management also needs to be put somewhere. Yes, Ukrainians are not used to experimenting on themselves.
      4. abc_alex
        abc_alex 9 August 2019 18: 37
        0
        A sighting system where to get for RCC? They themselves will not find the ship beyond the horizon. Or eio will be RCC for direct fire?
      5. StudentVK
        StudentVK 9 August 2019 20: 28
        0
        You judge in your own country, and here one word is U k r a and n a)))) They steal stolen from thieves. Kickbacks, etc. The Ukrainian SSR had one of the most developed defense industries in Europe, but all about Al. Nikolaev shipbuilding, antonov, even the motor sich, to put it mildly, not what it was in the 14th year.
      6. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 August 2019 12: 05
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Put rocket weapons.

        What kind of modernization, it's time to send these shells to the "needles". (although they will still be at the pier.)
    2. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 10 August 2019 05: 46
      0
      They want to turn them into boat battleships. Tremble, adversary from the Northeast!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 August 2019 12: 55
      0
      "go out to the Mediterranean to support NATO ships."

      Ukraine's mighty fleet "Breeze", "Bora", "Chopin" clinically - autonomy for 5 days, just from Odessa to Mediterranean, if they do not drown.
  2. Gray brother
    Gray brother 9 August 2019 15: 39
    +9
    Paint in yellow-black block color +100 Svidomo.
    1. den3080
      den3080 9 August 2019 16: 09
      +5
      Quote: Gray Brother
      Paint in yellow-black block color +100 Svidomo.

      And draw the forks on all suitable surfaces.
      A trident, it’s just a little slavish in Slavic sounds a little funny, but in the right way ... in a truly democratic way - Trident.
      Mriya, and only smile
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 August 2019 12: 58
        0
        Quote: den3080
        It’s a trident; it’s only Slavic sounds a little funny

        But as you do not turn it, the fork will remain a fork.
  3. 1976AG
    1976AG 9 August 2019 15: 43
    +9
    At the headquarters of the Navy, they said that after all the boats were included in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division would be formed from them, which would not only control the near sea zone, but would also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."
    Poor states, now they can’t do anything without the support of the Ukrainian fleet.
    1. ltc35
      ltc35 9 August 2019 16: 20
      +3
      I did not understand from the article - boats from America "sailed" or are Ukrainian naval commanders building projects? And then it's a direct world of ship ...
    2. Marconi41
      Marconi41 9 August 2019 18: 48
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      a separate division, which will not only control the near sea zone, but will also be able to "enter the Mediterranean Sea

      It's good. So everyone will be in one place, in Odessa. Although ... who will understand their Sumerians.
      1. Omskgasmyas
        Omskgasmyas 10 August 2019 05: 55
        0
        They can also sell to the same Papuans, only from Africa. And to demand from the staff more gifts in return for those sold.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 August 2019 12: 59
      0
      Quote: 1976AG
      a separate division will be formed from them

      If Russia returns three "prisoners" it is possible to create a squadron headed by a vice-admiral of tank forces.
  4. Andrey Chistyakov
    Andrey Chistyakov 9 August 2019 15: 43
    0
    How many times?
  5. Berkut24
    Berkut24 9 August 2019 15: 47
    +6
    Yes, they would give it to the fishermen, they have the very place there.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 August 2019 13: 03
      0
      Quote: Berkut24
      Yes, they would give it to the fishermen, they have the very place there.

      If only tourists with a fishing rod sit in the roadstead, they won't go on the trawl, on the nets too. Yes, and "karassinu" eats a lot, some losses .. Only carry tourists.
  6. gurzuf
    gurzuf 9 August 2019 16: 06
    +1
    Quote: Honest Citizen
    Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place

    Does Pan Ataman have a gold reserve for all these "modernizations"?

    ... and most importantly - their content.
  7. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 9 August 2019 16: 12
    +4
    Kiev pays for the modernization and repair of boats, their transportation to Odessa and staff training.

    I must have missed something. "Gifts" have already been distilled to the hut or are they just saving up pennies?
    1. cniza
      cniza 9 August 2019 16: 22
      +5
      It seems that while mentally surpassed.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 9 August 2019 16: 28
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        It seems that while mentally surpassed.

        Not only surpassed, but also overtook the achressor on them.
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 August 2019 16: 30
          +4
          And the pennies were already written off and spent.
          1. SASHA OLD
            SASHA OLD 10 August 2019 00: 23
            0
            Quote: cniza
            And the pennies were already written off and spent.

            "mastered" laughing
      2. sabakina
        sabakina 9 August 2019 16: 46
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        It seems that while mentally surpassed.

        I do not remember who said: "Fear your thoughts, they are material"
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 August 2019 16: 50
          +2
          Just not the horses. Greetings! hi
          1. sabakina
            sabakina 9 August 2019 16: 51
            +3
            Greetings Vit! I'm still interested. Will they trample into the Mediterranean Sea by sea or will they sneak along the coast?
            1. cniza
              cniza 9 August 2019 16: 54
              +3
              We must look at seaworthiness, but in my opinion no further than 50 miles from the coast.
      3. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 9 August 2019 19: 10
        +2
        Quote: cniza
        It seems that while mentally surpassed.

        Panyatna. As usual they said "gop" without even running away.
        In Ukraine, it was decided to modernize the US Coast Guard Island Island patrol boats transferred to the Navy.

        Already the orders, go, stamped ...
  8. Dietmar
    Dietmar 9 August 2019 16: 12
    +2
    The modernization should be carried out as follows - to equip the team with all the admirals, headed by the tanker and to hang the "Jolly Roger". Then go out to sea, disperse the troughs to the limit and open the Kingston! Full SUGS!
  9. cniza
    cniza 9 August 2019 16: 21
    +3
    At the headquarters of the Navy, they said that after all the boats were included in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division would be formed from them, which would not only control the near sea zone, but would also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."


    The plans of the "ocean" power are enormous. laughing
  10. Horn
    Horn 9 August 2019 16: 36
    +4
    And what, puppies will make pocket battleships out of them! In the sense - in the pocket, and not in the sense of "Bismarck" ... Just need to knit bundles of reeds along the sides to increase buoyancy ...
  11. Avior
    Avior 9 August 2019 16: 50
    0
    If you can put a couple of PKR on them, then they won’t become warships. But the constant threat of a sudden blow will be created. And it will have to be taken into account
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 9 August 2019 17: 05
    +2
    In our opinion, the project should provide that the modernization of Island boats should be carried out at the Nikolaev shipyard

    Super! All "partners" are resting! Neither how, nor what, nor how much will the modernization be done. The main thing is in Nikolaev. Like "it's our turn to cut the grandmother. And then the" Forge from Poroshenko "finally became insolent. wassat
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 9 August 2019 18: 29
      +2
      Exactly . And then the Lenin Forge shoves its boats navy. Bad, but mine. This is a mess. The natives are not supposed to have their own military-industrial complex - all that is necessary for them is to be sold to Western gentlemen or to fuse junk. Old patrol boats - just from this series. Plus Zelenka spoke about the purchase of the Turkish Altai, and the Ukrainian air force is eyeing Brazilian screw jerboas. It seems that the Ukrainian military-industrial complex will be finished off and sawed for scrap with the full approval of both the east and the west. The sooner they finish and saw it, the better. good
  13. Rwmos
    Rwmos 9 August 2019 18: 17
    +3
    The cut project has started! After 2, the years will be painted, and they will say that the modernization is completed - this is such a special anti-Russian coating with which these boats do not even need weapons - Russian sailors are completely deprived of rzhach from one kind.
    Although, maybe they will put some "cavunomet Golod"
  14. LeonidL
    LeonidL 9 August 2019 18: 30
    0
    Great idea! Not yet received, but already being upgraded! How cute and how Seljuk-like. Self-made rogues pile up on boats for the love of gigantomania something generated by their gloomy genius, or rather remade from strictly Soviet. Poor-poor boats. if they come to the Black Sea and survive, they will also be sent to the Mediterranean ... Ah, to drown so without too much torment in their native ports.
  15. Candidate of Military Sciences
    Candidate of Military Sciences 9 August 2019 19: 37
    0
    Yes, we are already in the know. The boats were covered with rust for camouflage and thus greatly upgraded. It turned out very clearly. Now these are level 80 boats).
  16. rayruav
    rayruav 9 August 2019 19: 43
    0
    I read komenty and wonder why it’s ridiculous to shoot harpoons at these oil rigs with these boats, and add that the towers are protected by project 22 awkward patrol ships, I don’t remember what happened there our people will die and unfortunately we can’t say that our land is rich in people
    1. Antares
      Antares 9 August 2019 22: 02
      -6
      Quote: rayruav
      with these boats harpoons in our oil rigs

      not oil, but gas. And not "nashi" and so to speak that the Ukrainians wrung out.
      But there will be clashes. Since brazenly digging in the economic zone of Ukraine.
  17. rus-5819
    rus-5819 9 August 2019 20: 00
    +1
    In 2018, the US Navy transferred to Ukraine the decommissioned Coast Guard boats of the Island class "Drummond" (WPB-1323) and "Cushing" (WPB-1321

    Modernization options will be developed by the SE "Experimental Design Center for Shipbuilding" (OPTsK), which is part of "Ukroboronprom".

    Joe patch ... (excuse the poop), Molotov heels and super dreadnought ready to conquer the world.
  18. mik193
    mik193 9 August 2019 20: 23
    +1
    In their desire to mischief in every possible way, they can adapt them for mine productions.
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 9 August 2019 20: 58
      +1
      Use them as minzags ... Hardly for today. To do this, at least you need the actual mines. As I understand it, the NATO model. And to deliver sea mines, but in peacetime ... The land is unlikely ...
      Well, how will a civilian explode ?! Do you imagine the resonance in the world community? .. UA-multiplied by zero.
  19. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 9 August 2019 20: 50
    +2
    Honestly, I did not understand. Is the boat already in UA? Or are they still in their historical homeland ...
    Judging by the displacement and performance characteristics, the boats are quite a boat!
    Such boats - many sorrows can actually deliver after modernization and equipping with appropriate weapons. And this will not be the case. UA has no problems with sanctions. Unlike us. There the steamers will be "packed" with the latest nanotechnology. Keep calm...
  20. Antares
    Antares 9 August 2019 22: 07
    0
    the final version of the modernization of patrol boats will be adopted after the Ukrainian Navy receives a wide practical experience of using Island.

    that is, when they get to Odessa and practice.
    Modernization of boats will be aimed at maximizing combat effectiveness. Now, the company's specialists have already received the necessary technical documentation for boats, which allows for modernization using all the capabilities of Island.

    documentation has now been received to evaluate the possibilities of modernization on their own.
    Therefore, a competition was announced for the modernization project.
    The best project will be implemented.
  21. Pacifist with AK
    Pacifist with AK 9 August 2019 22: 08
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Honest Citizen

    Increase the number of oars or set sail?

    Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place. This is if we seriously assess the potential of the enemy.

    Question: what will the conversion of a patrol boat into a missile cost? Let's estimate:
    - installation of interceptors (stabilizers pitching) - this is so, on the little things
    - complete redevelopment
    - installation of containers for RCC
    - installation of a gas exhaust system / crew protection
    - installation of radars and their integration into the LMS
    - installation of hydrofoils and / or alteration of the body (for planing)
    - replacement of engines (and / or additional installation of gas turbines), etc ....
    I'm afraid to imagine how much such an upgrade will cost (reminds me of converting a Zaporozhets into an F-1 car, where the humpback is the cheapest part). IMHO.
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 10 August 2019 01: 16
      0
      Quote: Pacifist with AK
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: Honest Citizen

      Increase the number of oars or set sail?

      Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place. This is if we seriously assess the potential of the enemy.

      Question: what will the conversion of a patrol boat into a missile cost? Let's estimate:
      - installation of interceptors (stabilizers pitching) - this is so, on the little things
      - complete redevelopment
      - installation of containers for RCC
      - installation of a gas exhaust system / crew protection
      - installation of radars and their integration into the LMS
      - installation of hydrofoils and / or alteration of the body (for planing)
      - replacement of engines (and / or additional installation of gas turbines), etc ....
      I'm afraid to imagine how much such an upgrade will cost (reminds me of converting a Zaporozhets into an F-1 car, where the humpback is the cheapest part). IMHO.

      You have counted too much.
      Everything will be much simpler. A radar to the roof of the bridge, one or two skirting guides, a machine gun, or a 30mm AU to the tank, everything else is unchanged.
  22. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 10 August 2019 04: 17
    0
    The result of "decommunization" - the most powerful shipbuilding was turned into mechanical workshops for "patching" the obkom trash. Draw conclusions, potheads, you will soon become Mongolia-2.
  23. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 10 August 2019 10: 33
    0
    At the headquarters of the Navy, they said that after all the boats were included in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division would be formed from them, which would not only control the near sea zone, but would also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."

    If the free volume of the below-deck space is filled with polystyrene foam, then the piece of iron will be able to walk along the North Atlantic. In tow.
  24. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 10 August 2019 10: 36
    0
    Quote: Marconi41
    Quote: Gray Brother
    The proud Sarktavello did so.

    Unlike Ukrainians, the Georgians used these boats for their intended purpose (coast guard), and our brothers want to make an attack mini-destroyer of them.

    Nano destroyer.
    "Support NATO". Be a torpedo catcher on your own side, covering the godfather.
  25. sibiryak.vitya
    sibiryak.vitya 10 August 2019 11: 51
    0
    Quote: Antares
    Quote: rayruav
    with these boats harpoons in our oil rigs

    not oil, but gas. And not "nashi" and so to speak that the Ukrainians wrung out.
    But there will be clashes. Since brazenly digging in the economic zone of Ukraine.

    To withdraw from treaties with Russia without having demarcation of borders, having canceled all international guarantees, get what you were striving for. The borders of Romania to the tower are much closer than the borders of Odessa.
  26. Pacifist with AK
    Pacifist with AK 10 August 2019 22: 09
    0
    Quote: Marconi41
    Quote: Pacifist with AK
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Honest Citizen

    Increase the number of oars or set sail?

    Put rocket weapons. A pair of anti-ship missiles is quite where to place. This is if we seriously assess the potential of the enemy.

    Question: what will the conversion of a patrol boat into a missile cost? Let's estimate:
    - installation of interceptors (stabilizers pitching) - this is so, on the little things
    - complete redevelopment
    - installation of containers for RCC
    - installation of a gas exhaust system / crew protection
    - installation of radars and their integration into the LMS
    - installation of hydrofoils and / or alteration of the body (for planing)
    - replacement of engines (and / or additional installation of gas turbines), etc ....
    I'm afraid to imagine how much such an upgrade will cost (reminds me of converting a Zaporozhets into an F-1 car, where the humpback is the cheapest part). IMHO.

    You have counted too much.
    Everything will be much simpler. A radar to the roof of the bridge, one or two skirting guides, a machine gun, or a 30mm AU to the tank, everything else is unchanged.

    Maybe, but then it will not be a full-fledged missile boat, but an ersatz version with very limited functionality. Such a "Kassam" on the launch. I was talking about a complete alteration into a serious combat unit. But, even in the case of a good upgrade, this banderocorvette will face the fate of Georgian boats during the 08.08.08 conflict.