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Prokhanov reflects on whether Putin can be considered the "fifth Stalin"

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The originality of the historical path of Russia, its past, present and future have always been the subject of reflection and heated discussion of many famous and prominent figures of our country.


Prokhanov reflects on whether Putin can be considered the "fifth Stalin"


The writer, editor-in-chief of the Zavtra newspaper Alexander Andreevich Prokhanov, a guest of the Day TV channel, will talk about his vision of a thousand-year-old Russian stories, which was directly reflected in his new book, Fifth Stalin. In his book, the writer tries to consider the history of the Russian state not from a position of hatred of certain facts, but from a position of understanding and love for them.

Why, according to Prokhanov, is Russian history moving with jerks, jerks? What is the meaning of the author of the book in the concept of "fifth Stalin"?
Why was the figure of Joseph Stalin chosen for the ruler’s standard? Can Putin be considered the “fifth Stalin”? Did Putin give impetus to the development of the country? Why, according to Prokhanov, Russia has stopped in its development both socially and economically? Why is a dangerous moment now for Russia and for President Putin? Can Russia crawl through the eye of Russian history?

The answers to these and other questions are presented in the video on the Day TV channel.

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  1. Underwater hunter
    Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 16: 39
    +26
    Don’t even think about comparing Putin and Stalin .. Putin didn’t do a thousandth for Russia what Stalin did. These are politicians of different levels, Putin is a yard kid, Stalin is a great statesman. It is enough to compare the result for the same period of time and everything will be obvious.
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 9 August 2019 16: 49
      +18
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      Do not even think to compare Putin and Stalin

      And the "comparator" (Prokhanov) himself is also "so-so".
      Russia has stopped in its development

      Judging by how many hospitals and educational institutions have closed, this is not a halt in development, but degradation.
      1. Digital error
        Digital error 9 August 2019 17: 06
        +9
        Quote: Tibidokh
        it is not a halt in development, but degradation

        From me, plus. Well, what kind of people are they - they show him greatness and spirituality on federal TV every day, but he looks at the grayness outside the window ... pah! smile
        1. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 9 August 2019 17: 17
          +5
          Quote: DigitalError
          From me, plus.

          hi
          Quote: DigitalError
          What kind of people are they?

          Prokhanov in the video (I already managed to look at a speed of 2x) calls such whiners. See at 53:30.
          And we do not whine, we understand what should be better. And they tell us - start with yourself. We begin, and we are told - be patient yet. And we understand that they consider us terpils.

          If the presenter and Prokhanov showered with metaphors in the video, then I will try.
          You can drive a motor with a mileage of 350 thousand and add a liter of oil every 1000 km. Or you can supply a contract motor. Will it be expensive? You can also "capitalize".
          So, in my opinion, they will not let us supply a contract engine, and Putin also does not want to "otkapitalit" (that is, to change the government). So we will add to the engine (Sechin, Miller, Rothenberg, etc.) a liter of oil. But the car will not go better from this.
          1. Digital error
            Digital error 9 August 2019 17: 27
            +8
            Quote: Tibidokh
            So we will add to the engine .. But the car will not go from this better.

            Everyone understands that it cannot go on like this forever, and the "wooden mac" is getting closer. Okay, we lived with you, longing for children - I don't want the motors of "social elevators" breathing on incense to stop completely hi
        2. Chaldon48
          Chaldon48 9 August 2019 23: 55
          +1
          Much depends on the window, and sometimes on the thickness of the grill.
    2. iouris
      iouris 9 August 2019 20: 18
      -6
      Quote: Underwater Hunter
      Putin did not do a thousandth for Russia what Stalin did.

      The history of Russia turned Bogrov. All that is done then may not have historical significance.
      Information: Dmitry Grigorievich Bogrov (January 29 [February 10] 1887 - September 12 [25] 1911, Kiev) - Russian anarchist of Jewish origin, secret informant of the security department (pseudonym Alensky), personally committed the attempt on the life of P. A in 1911 Stolypin
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        1. Cat man null
          Cat man null 10 August 2019 01: 24
          +2
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Deeper .... Deeper must be licked ...

          You have not mixed up the site, my dear? wink
  2. Igor Shcherbina
    Igor Shcherbina 9 August 2019 16: 55
    +10
    How can Putin and Stalin be compared, this is the exact opposite in all directions, nothing in common, Putin is no different from Gorbachev and Yeltsin, who are his comrades-in-arms, Kudrin, Sechin, Chubais, Medvedev, Gref, a bunch of oligarchs. List what they have done over 20 years?
  3. Catfish
    Catfish 9 August 2019 17: 04
    +12
    "Fifth Stalin"


    There is no and cannot be any second, third, fifth ... Stalin is alone and it is impossible to repeat it, and it is simply ridiculous to compare someone with him. K I.V. Stalin can be treated in every way, but this is everyone’s business. But he lived like he lived and did what he did. And Victory in the Great Patriotic War will forever be associated with his name. Not to mention the fact that he turned agrarian Russia into one of the industrial, leading countries of the world. At what cost - the question is different, but he did it.
    And Putin ... he passed a law on self-abuse, so I will not say anything. By the way, Stalin did not issue such laws, he somehow managed.
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 9 August 2019 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Putin ... he passed a law on self-abuse

      Quote: Sea Cat
      Stalin didn’t issue such laws, he somehow managed

      laughing
      There was no law; there was a directive. wink To offend both (and often justifiably) is dangerous.
      1. Nick
        Nick 9 August 2019 18: 09
        +1
        Quote: Tibidokh
        To offend both (and often justifiably) is dangerous.

        Insult is always undeserved. There is constructive criticism. And insult is a sign of intellectual impotence.
        1. Tibidokh
          Tibidokh 9 August 2019 19: 54
          +3
          Quote: Nick
          An insult is always undeserved

          To whom and a sidelong glance is an insult.
          The law says about "disrespect". Now, disrespect is insulting to someone. request
          1. Digital error
            Digital error 9 August 2019 21: 29
            +1
            Quote: Tibidokh
            disrespect someone offends.

            Do you respect me? And if I am a deputy? Lack of an answer to this question means ignoring - and therefore, disrespect?
            1. Tibidokh
              Tibidokh 10 August 2019 04: 07
              -1
              Quote: DigitalError
              And if I am a deputy?

              Then - KU
        2. Digital error
          Digital error 9 August 2019 21: 25
          0
          Quote: Nick
          insult is a sign of intellectual impotence.

          This is where political satire "started to eat". Laughter devalues ​​real achievements (let's be honest - Putin has them), ultimately ruining the state. The ban on "swearing" by the authorities will lead precisely to the renaissance of the already forgotten subtle and intellectual satire. Honest to God - they are not at all fools sitting upstairs, but for some reason they do not learn elementary things. Sooner or later, the Russian Guard will laugh at them (those in power), and this is the end.
  4. Digital error
    Digital error 9 August 2019 17: 04
    +2
    If Putin left on time (rather than appointing the new-old Prime Minister Medvedev for the "breakthrough" he announced, moreover, after the failed May 2012 decrees), he could go down in the history of the Russian Federation as the most popular president. But he chose a different path and soon he may be compared not with Stalin, but with Brezhnev ...
    1. Fevralsk. Morev
      Fevralsk. Morev 11 August 2019 17: 18
      0
      Right. It is necessary to leave according to the Constitution, and not to live according to concepts.
  5. Motivatornick
    Motivatornick 9 August 2019 17: 15
    +7
    this hippo carries such a game on television is just awful.
  6. COJIDAT
    COJIDAT 9 August 2019 17: 17
    +5
    And the "comparator" (Prokhanov) himself is also "so-so".
  7. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 9 August 2019 17: 17
    +6
    Stalin lifted the country from ruins twice under comparable terms of rule with Putin. And Putin only "raises from his knees", but still will not lift.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 9 August 2019 17: 56
      +7
      Quote: 16112014nk
      And Putin only "raises from his knees", but still will not lift.

      Every time he lifts from his knees, he hits her on the back of her head ...
      Quote: Nick
      Putin is Stalin today. I asserted this ten years ago, and now I am even more convinced of this.

      And I am very glad that NePutin was in power in 1941 ... Thanks to NePutin, the Soviet people won the Victory, and did not disentangle the "professional-oligarchic" leadership and effective management ...
      Let Putin boast of success in demography ... Everything else is a paper gimp. Ask yourself the question - would Putin have appeared in the years of the first five-year plans and would the people follow him? Even today he does not have an idea and a direction for rallying society ... Degradation and collapse, the decay of morality held together by murderous poverty.
    2. lucul
      lucul 9 August 2019 22: 43
      -4
      Stalin lifted the country from ruins twice under comparable terms of rule with Putin. And Putin only "raises from his knees", but still will not lift.

      I do not detract from the merits of Stalin (they are significant), but Putin was able to transfer the battlefield from Russia from the outside to the side of the enemy, and he was almost able to break the indestructible alliance of Europe and the United States. What Stalin did not succeed (the difference between the socialist and the cap.stroy prevented).
      1. Fevralsk. Morev
        Fevralsk. Morev 11 August 2019 17: 20
        -1
        The only thing that Putin transfers from outside Russia is people's wealth and money from the pocket of the people.
  8. Proton
    Proton 9 August 2019 17: 18
    +8
    Prokhanov forever tells some kind of fairy tales laughing
  9. Nick
    Nick 9 August 2019 17: 36
    -12
    Putin is Stalin today. I asserted this ten years ago, and now I am even more convinced of this.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 9 August 2019 17: 47
      +2
      There is some truth, such a small fraction. Putin to Stalin, as to Beijing with cancer.
      1. Nick
        Nick 9 August 2019 17: 50
        -5
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        There is some truth, such a small fraction. Putin to Stalin, as to Beijing with cancer.

        You have an interesting system of measures. I will not argue. Ten years later, you can more specifically discuss the subject. Big seen in the distance
    2. vvnab
      vvnab 9 August 2019 17: 50
      +4
      Putin is Stalin today

      Yeah, and Vladimir the Wise yesterday and Nicholas II tomorrow! )))
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 9 August 2019 20: 10
      -2
      convinced of this.
  10. Langf
    Langf 9 August 2019 17: 54
    +8
    Living on the backlogs of the Stalinist economy and comparing it with a variegated galaxy of figures, from outright thieves to simply banal effective managers, is, excuse me, cuckoo grunted at his grandfather. What great industrializers and victors in world wars did he find there, when over the past almost 30 years we still have not reached the level of industrial production dynamics even in the 89 pre-development year ?! If Putin had dispersed all this Medvedev-Chubais and other Kudrin cliques, then somehow it would be possible to understand and partially accept such a curtsy. But this is nonsense when there is a quiet, evil-minded fuss on the remnants of the empire with varying success in the import and export of capital, and they are trying to sanctify it in the name of Stalin! Truly there is no limit to clicks.
    1. Nick
      Nick 9 August 2019 18: 13
      -3
      Quote: Langf
      grandfather cuckoo grunted

      Watch your own.
      Quote: Langf
      If Putin had dispersed all this Medvedev-Chubais and other Kudrin cliques, then somehow it would be possible to understand and partially accept such a curtsy. But this is nonsense when there is a quiet, moneyless fuss on the remnants of the empire with varying success in the import and export of capital, and they are trying to sanctify it in the name of Stalin! Truly there is no limit to clicks.

      It was for this level of thinking that Stalin eliminated the old Bolshevik guard. They only mastered demagoguery, but waved a saber.
  11. Nasrat
    Nasrat 9 August 2019 17: 57
    -2
    I wonder how many people will watch this video. And give a comment ..? As they say - I myself did not watch or read the article ( bully no interest in this), ... trying to understand why this comparative masturbation? Dreamers burn themselves ... Maybe it’s time to turn a historical page and live for today? ... He said rudely, but in fact!
    1. Tibidokh
      Tibidokh 9 August 2019 20: 00
      0
      Quote: Nasr
      I myself did not watch

      "But I condemn" lol
      Quote: Nasr
      comparative masturbation. He said rudely, but in fact!

      The video must be limited to 18+
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 9 August 2019 20: 13
      -1
      He said rudely, but in fact!
      Usually we look from different directions, but here we have a plus, for I have not watched and will not.
  12. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 9 August 2019 17: 59
    +3
    Prokhanov has long needed the help of a qualified psychiatrist. And drug treatment.
  13. Yrec
    Yrec 9 August 2019 18: 01
    +3
    "Prokhanov ponders" ... I did not read further, Prokhanov is still a demagogue.
  14. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 9 August 2019 18: 54
    +5
    Compare too, ass with a finger!
  15. colotun
    colotun 9 August 2019 21: 56
    -2
    Prokhanov as a publicist always stands out very spectacularly, and his personal life position is very patriotic.
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  16. Plague doctor
    Plague doctor 10 August 2019 14: 05
    +1
    Putin is a weak-minded mumble and a chatterbox, depending on the oligarchs. And Stalin, a man under whose leadership the most difficult war in human history was won, Prokhanov survived out of his mind, compared the mongrel with a wolf.
  17. Fevralsk. Morev
    Fevralsk. Morev 10 August 2019 15: 35
    +1
    Prokhanov has senile insanity. Or wants a house in Italy. Either "People of Dreams" with cuts of propaganda videos from YouTube, then compares Putin to Stalin. Why compare them? We read how many factories were built under Stalin, and how many factories were closed under Putin. Where are ZiL, Izh-auto, Volgograd tractor, Krasnoyarsk combine, etc., and thousands of plants, factories, plants. Let's compare?
  18. Artashes
    Artashes 10 August 2019 18: 11
    +1
    Now, who just does not "suck up" the main figure: this is a tradition, and money is not superfluous today. Under Stalin, poems and songs were composed for him, then they publicly lamented how the hell they were mistaken. Dear Nikita Sergeevich opened our eyes. True, NONE of those who saw the light did not refuse Stalin's privileges. Well, Prokhanov is a well-known "pragmatist" ...
  19. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 10 August 2019 20: 40
    -1
    Quote: lucul
    What Stalin did not succeed (the difference between the socialist and the cap.stroy prevented).

    Perhaps Stalin simply did not have enough time?
  20. nekromonger
    nekromonger 12 August 2019 10: 04
    0
    This leader had a great chance to take the life of Russians to a qualitatively new level, but he takes to a new level only the life of his homies, oligarchs, and ordinary citizens will scoop up to 65 if someone survives. Of course, personalities are not comparable.
  21. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 12 August 2019 10: 41
    +1
    Compare, not comparable. Who STALIN is a political block, but what is happening in the country now, especially in the economy and social sphere, speaks of who Putin is. For information, not a fan of liberals of all stripes.
  22. Chit
    Chit 13 November 2019 01: 36
    -12
    Quote: DigitalError
    -God - no fools are sitting upstairs at all, but for some reason they don’t teach elementary things

    Do you know what has become absolutely obvious to me recently?
    When a person comes into power in the Russian realities, a metamorphosis occurs with lightning speed with him.
    He seems to remain an adequate person, often and eagerly speaks at various talk shows, writes some laws ...
    And at the same time, completely loses the feeling of reality. As if instantly moving to a parallel world. In this world there are no problems of an ordinary Russian, there are no problems of medicine at the district level, there are no problems of pension provision.
    After all, it has long been said: they are terribly far from the people ... It turns out that the problem of misunderstanding the power of the aspirations of the people is not today. From the depths of centuries stretches. Maybe this is our main bond?