The wrong side of the story. What admiration for China leads to

Here I remember, I do not remember here


In recent years, some comrades who call themselves “patriots of Russia” have a fashion for immoderate praise, no, not their homeland, which would be logical, but a neighboring country. Namely China. Celestial heavens sing simply incredible praises, which increasingly cause quite sincere bewilderment.




Even in the Chinese ultra-nationalist forums, perhaps, you will not find such laudatory comments about the foreign policy and successes of this country. A caustic analogy arises: similar gentlemen-comrades in the spring of 1941 could praise - and praise - another great continental power, supposedly an ally of the state of workers and peasants in the struggle against Western imperialism. Exactly until 22 on June 1941, when the "ally" showed his true face.

About the Asian "ally" of our time, we also have a lot of myths that are carefully processed before being launched into society. Somehow, it suddenly became customary to theatrically shed tears about the millions killed in the Japanese territory by the Japanese military junta in the 1937-1945 years, but when it comes to the fewer number of those tortured during the “big leap” and “cultural revolution”, a strange collective amnesia. The justification that this is supposed to be for the development of the country does not stand up to criticism, because in the same period of time, South Korean dictator Park Jung-hee achieved much greater success at much lower cost.

The wrong side of the story. What admiration for China leads to


However, the "run over" of the cannibalistic methods of Mao Zedong is a claim to modern China too, where the leader is an indisputable authority. In order not to offend the "comrades", we are trying to avoid slippery issues, for the hundredth time, the topic of Japanese imperialism, which ended back in the 1940s, and its war crimes have long received proper moral and historical rating.

The “I remember here, I don’t remember” mode is also launched when mentioning the events on Damansky Island (not to mention other, less well-known border clashes) or the role of Beijing in supporting Afghan mujahideen in the 1979-1988 years. And by the way, we are talking about the same political regime that is in power in Beijing today, which the Soviet science fiction writer Ivan Efremov called "ant false socialism."

If you add the falling pieces of the puzzle to the picture, then “peaceful and friendly” China will suddenly (!) Appear completely non-peaceful and not friendly. Especially if you bring here the relations of communist Beijing with Vietnam, India and other neighbors. The governments and peoples of these countries also have something to tell about the "good-natured panda" and the "wise and fair dragon."

Of course, we are not alone in such humiliating worship. The West also flattered China for a long time and obediently, from about the eighties to the middle of this decade. Even Tiananmen did not become a big obstacle. But there, flattery was a tactic, not a true strategy. How much is left of her today?



Figures that tell how famously Russia is clinging to the Chinese “development train” forget to mention, say, the economic problems of the Celestial Empire, which were enough before the “tariff war” of Donald Trump, and also that there’s a place for the “Russian carriage” there , then in a very specific role.

Not enough for everyone


The Asian giant is so huge and consumes so many resources that soon they will remain on the planet for the Chinese, or for everyone else. An example of this is the virtually disappeared forests of Mozambique, sent to the Celestial Empire for a "small percentage" for local corrupt officials, or the once-fertile Mekong Delta in Vietnam, almost destroyed by Chinese hydropower plants. This also includes the destruction by armada of fishing vessels of biological resources of the World Ocean “to zero”, which, for example, is a real murder for the food industry of some Asian countries, which, due to the mountain landscape, cannot afford to carry on traditional agriculture and rely almost exclusively on the sea as a source of food.

In the nineties, the population of many Russian regions also became acquainted with the Chinese "method of managing", which led to active protests against such "cooperation." Now, “cross-border cooperation” is as much larger as the problems from it.

So an unprecedentedly high standard of living in the Celestial Empire, which the CCP noblemen love to brag about, was achieved, among other things, by appropriating the resources of many countries. This is the logic of “either they or we”, in which Beijing provides itself with the future, while depriving it of everyone else, leaving all other nations without their forests, fertile land, clean water, non-renewable treasures of nature.

Country in itself


Even in terms of worldview, China leaves no alternative to others. His world project is only for the Chinese. For example: during the Cold War, there were three global projects. The first is the American path, with the idea of ​​democracy and freedom. The second is Soviet, with utopian-idealistic equality. Also, by the 1970-80 years, the Islamic project arose, which also split into separate subprojects (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan), conflicting with each other. Any particular individual could become a communist, a Westerner Democrat, or convert to Islam. This path was open not only to individuals, but also to entire nations.

But no one can become Chinese. Neither individually, nor collectively, nor at the state level. This is a fundamental limitation of the Chinese path. In the "Chinese world" other nations have a place on the periphery. The source of raw materials and a place to dump what you don’t want to see at home.

At the same time, the very right to be Chinese, as the experience of the Hong Kong protester and the rapidly arming Taiwan show, is not such a great honor. Sweetie called "one country - two systems" in fact turned out to be a fiction. And life in a totalitarian paradise with a "social rating" and "re-education camps" is not at all what adequate people usually strive for.



The British colonial flag, which the demonstrators hung in early July in the Hong Kong parliament they captured, is the most obvious evidence of this choice, which was supported by two million people on the streets. This does not mean that the protests in Hong Kong will succeed - they will, of course, be crushed. But the inhabitants of autonomy did not plan to win: their task was to demonstrate to the world their civilizational choice - and it was certainly not for the Beijing government.

You must also understand that the economy does not always determine politics and, especially, ideology. This is something, for example, that many domestic media people cannot understand. Otherwise, strange mantras would not sound that the United States and the EU, they say, are good, will come to their senses and lift sanctions. After all, trading is more profitable than conflict, right? Yes, of course, more profitable. It was more profitable for Europe before the first and second world wars. And who did it stop?

Returning to China, we get exactly the same formula. Ideology and politics always dominate, as it is a question of power. Power will always be above money. Of course, there is a persistent feeling that some are sincerely sure that this immutable rule (ironically, by the way, observed in the Russian Federation itself) for some reason does not work in interstate relations. But it does work. And how.

Main danger


However, the main danger lies not in the threat of a Chinese military invasion, albeit rather hypothetical, but not zero. And not even in the economic dictate of the Middle Kingdom. That is not the threat.

There is such an expression - "the wrong side of history." It was put into circulation by American journalists and politicians, but this does not make it less true. A nation that has put on the wrong geopolitical power will eventually be forced to pay for its choice. She gives the winners wealth, territory and people: promising scientists, specialists, as well as just young women. In addition, such a country agrees to other conditions of the winners, whose goal is the same - to deprive the vanquished of prospects in the foreseeable future.

The main troubles from the pro-Chinese orientation are that if the Celestial Empire eventually loses its cold or hot war with the West, the Russian Federation, which has failed to maintain the balance, will be perceived by the whole world as an ally of the international “bad guy”. With all the consequences. For the inhabitants of our country, this seemingly high geopolitics is not of academic interest, for people always pay the price for the mistakes of not-so-powerful rulers and regimes.
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  1. Gardamir 10 August 2019 15: 13 New
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    I completely agree with the article!
    1. smart ass 10 August 2019 16: 44 New
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      Question to the author, he was in China? And I was, therefore, I admire
      1. Starover_Z 10 August 2019 21: 06 New
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        Quote: Clever man
        Question to the author, he was in China? And I was, therefore, I admire

        And being a tourist is good anywhere! Yes, and tourists do not show the reverse side of the "coin".
        Tourists are welcome everywhere, but to go there to work for themselves and the attitude will be almost the opposite, immediately the label of “stranger” will be stuck, and now “guest worker” with the corresponding attitude!
        1. smart ass 10 August 2019 21: 50 New
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          Well, I was in China for work. From shanghai to yiwu city.
          1. Tatyana 10 August 2019 23: 23 New
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            A nation that has put on the wrong geopolitical power eventually will be forced to pay for his choice. She gives the winners wealth, territory and people: promising scientists, specialists, as well as just young women. In addition, such a country agrees to other conditions of the winners, whose goal is the same - to deprive the vanquished of prospects in the foreseeable future.

            How is it said correctly !!!
            Only it does not reach our government officials. They have the psychology of temporary workers who have seized power.
            1. Fan-fan 11 August 2019 12: 51 New
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              And no one else wants to talk with them (our rulers), so they are forced to meet only with a limited number of leaders.
              1. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 13: 59 New
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                Quote: Fan-Fan
                And no one else wants to talk with them (our rulers), so they are forced to meet only with a limited number of leaders.

                Do not tell it which leaders, which states do not want to meet with ours?
      2. Mavrikiy 11 August 2019 05: 52 New
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        Quote: Clever man
        Question to the author, he was in China? And I was, therefore, I admire

        To be does not mean to feel and understand the processes in the country.
      3. Ukrainian socialist 11 August 2019 17: 29 New
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        What do you admire? A low standard of living or the fact that there are suppressed demonstrations of workers for raising salaries, or the fact that the true Marxists and indeed all who disagree with the regime are persecuted there?
        1. smart ass 12 August 2019 06: 52 New
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          In general, there are southern Chinese and northern. The poor Chinese just live closer to the Russian Federation (they show us on TV), and the prosperous live in the southern provinces (because industry and ports, resources are all in the south). We could not find a loader for 120 thousand rubles. Last November, there was a course of 1-9.8.
    2. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 10 August 2019 17: 33 New
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      Quote: Gardamir
      I completely agree with the article!

      Yes, the article is very accurate and correct, I’m even surprised that a similar article was published, otherwise lately our patriots have been singing odes to the Chinese more. China will never be our friend, the Chinese are considering us as a raw materials appendage and skillfully using our mediocre power .. the fires that were recently in Siberia, there is an opinion that this is the work of the Chinese, who are buying our forest for cheap.
      1. Proxima 10 August 2019 19: 29 New
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        As my friend said it’s better to be in a war with the USA than to be friends with China. But what, this has its own reason. You are ready to fight the enemy, but to get a knife in the back from a "friend", you are clearly not ready.
        1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 20: 17 New
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          Quote: Proxima
          it’s better to be in a war with the USA than to be friends with China

          It is better to be friends with both the United States and China ... But keep the armored train on the siding.
          Quote: Proxima
          here to get a knife in the back from a "friend", you are clearly not ready

          In politics, you always need to be prepared for just that.
      2. krops777 11 August 2019 04: 04 New
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        Yes, the article is very accurate and correct, I’m even surprised that a similar article was published, otherwise lately our patriots have been singing odes to the Chinese more and more.


        Patriots just do not ode to the Chinese, they love their homeland, but pseudo-patriots and not patriots, yes, they can be proud of anything, but not their country.
      3. Sunstorm 11 August 2019 16: 17 New
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        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        lately, more and more our "patriots" have been singing odes to the Chinese .. China will never be our friend, the Chinese are considering us as a raw materials appendage and skillfully using our mediocre power .. the fires that have recently been in Siberia, it is believed that this is the work of hands it is the Chinese who buy our forest for cheap.

        And that someone else looks at his weak neighbor? Maybe the EU is not needed as a raw material appendage? Maybe for the USA? Completeness is the general law of the historical development of states. The weak become food for the strong. What is even funnier is that the United States is a combined hodgepodge of peoples, the EU is a combined hodgepodge of peoples .. Russia is also a team, China is also a team. The time of mono-ethnic states seems to have passed .. (well, why am I worse than Fukuyama?)
        1. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 14: 04 New
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          Quote: Sunstorm
          China is also a national team.

          There, 93% of the Chinese Han population. so that China is a mononational state.
      4. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 14: 01 New
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        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        China will never be our friend, the Chinese sees us as a raw materials appendage

        Some people like to speak for all. That is for the people of the Russian Federation, and now also for the people of the PRC they say.
      5. kig
        kig 15 August 2019 07: 12 New
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        Chinese considers us as a raw materials appendage - What does the Chinese have to do with it when we ourselves position ourselves as a raw materials appendage. Rather, we are not with you, but our stewards. Do not believe me - see export statistics.
    3. Pete Borisitch 20 August 2019 13: 46 New
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      Politics, divide and conquer the ancient as a mammoth ... The fabrications that are in the hands of the naughty Saxons have no faith .... The article is unsuccessful.
  2. Operator 10 August 2019 15: 18 New
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    I still don’t understand what China is threatening Russia with: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal, catching all freshwater fish, pumping out all oil and gas (and free of charge) or aggression + 100500 of Chinese divisions? laughing
    1. Subergeil 10 August 2019 15: 20 New
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      I still don’t understand what China is threatening Russia with: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal, catching all freshwater fish, pumping out all the oil and gas (and free of charge) or aggression +100500 Chinese divisions? laughing

      Probably, so far the damage is only moral - the growing lag of Russia in development from China (and the levels of the RFP, which is important, too), people who still compelled the USSR in its best years are not happy
      1. Basil50 10 August 2019 15: 52 New
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        Nicola
        There are no lags in RUSSIA either in technology or in social security. Goebels, the CIA, the British, and other Frenchmen also had a * lag *, today the Chinese with the Baltic Poles.
        Hollywood and other movie crafts about prosperity are nothing more than a dream and frank lies. In RUSSIA, too, there are those that lackeys number hundreds and own their own yachts-planes. BUT in the SOVIET UNION, as in modern RUSSIA, people live much more prosperously than in Europe or the USA, and it is not correct to compare with China and other * Asian tigers * at all. Had the opportunity to compare personally. An incredulous internet to help.
        The Chinese as a people began to form only in the 20th century. Under Mao, the Chinese assimilated everyone into the Chinese, including the Uyghurs and Buryats, and many others. During the assimilation, the Chinese army demonstrated courage and ferocity, in contrast to the war with the Japanese and then with the Americans in Korea.
        It is very instructive how the Chinese justified * antiquity * of their history, right down to * Pekinopithecus *, from which * they budded * Australopithecus. Ukrainians with dug out sea and other antiquities, look frank plagiarists and rogues compared to Chinese investments in falsification of history. What did the Chinese cost to create * a terracotta army * or * wall updates * the Chinese kept secret. Until now, in the very center of Beijing, there are state artisanal enterprises producing * ancient * artifacts and * ancient * letters.
        1. Greenwood 12 August 2019 04: 09 New
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          Quote: Vasily50
          in modern RUSSIA people live much more prosperously than in Europe or the USA, and it is not correct to compare with China and other * Asian tigers * at all.
          I will pass on this phrase to my many acquaintances, friends, former classmates, many of whom have traveled to the decaying States, Canada and Australia, impoverished Europe and plowing rice for Japan, Korea and China. Here they laugh when they learn from which prosperous and prosperous country they left. lol
          You would be ashamed to write such an addiction here, chesslovo.
          Quote: Vasily50
          * Asian tigers * Comparison is generally not correct. Had the opportunity to compare personally. An incredulous internet to help.
          Why do I need internet. So I live in the Primorsky Territory. The average salary is about 35000-40000 rubles per month. In neighboring Japan, where I went to study and internships (and had the opportunity to visit some enterprises and find out working conditions and salaries), the average salary for our money is 130000-160000 rubles a month. At the same time, prices in the country are only 20-50% higher than ours on average (some products cost the same with us or a little cheaper). Now judge for yourself how "poorer" people live there. lol
          1. MoJloT 12 August 2019 10: 35 New
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            the average salary for our money is 130000-160000 rubles per month.
            Well, it’s not a lot to say bluntly, I also work for that kind of money ...
          2. Sergey1987 13 August 2019 14: 09 New
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            Quote: Greenwood
            35000-40000 rubles per month. In neighboring Japan, where I went to study and internships (and had the opportunity to visit some enterprises and find out working conditions and salaries), the average salary for our money is 130000-160000 rubles a month. At the same time, prices in the country are only 20-50% higher than ours on average

            Do you take into account housing prices and utilities? In Israel, sn is also higher, clothes are cheap, products are not much higher than ours, but very expensive housing.
      2. gsev 11 August 2019 04: 36 New
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        Quote: Subergeil
        Russia's growing lag

        It seems to me that without China, Russia's lag was even greater. Many types of products are not produced in Russia or its production is very expensive. Sanctions therefore affect Russia because all industrial equipment can be brought from China and all this has become cheaper in ruble prices since 2013. It is impossible to make a 50-axis CNC for 000 rubles in Russia, for 4 a 14000 kW servo drive, for 1,5 rubles panel PLC and for 6000 rubles thermal controller ...
    2. Ilya-spb 10 August 2019 16: 36 New
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      China is threatening ... Uncontrolled and unprincipled.

      China brilliantly uses our diseases and weaknesses - the greed of companies and businessmen, corruption, the silence of citizens.

      They are like biblical locusts.
      1. vvnab 10 August 2019 22: 20 New
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        China brilliantly uses our diseases and weaknesses - the greed of companies and businessmen, corruption, the silence of citizens.

        All according to the precepts of the Bolsheviks. We ourselves have abandoned the advanced socio-economic system for which we are now paying.
        I foresee objections that they say what kind of communism is in China, and the capitalists are solid there, but you take an interest in foreign relations (and not only, but in this area by 99%) they have everything under the strict control of the CCP. And - "everything goes according to plan ..."
      2. gsev 11 August 2019 04: 42 New
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        Quote: Ilya-spb
        China brilliantly exploits our diseases and weaknesses

        In China, the requirements for the employee are very high. At an exhibition in Russia, a Chinese company fired 2 translators who in Russia valued themselves very highly and really were capable linguists and were very communicative. That is, valued in Russia as an outstanding talent in China, it looks like an ordinary contender. Then there are many Chinese and you can always find a company or just a Chinese for cooperation.
    3. IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2019 12: 39 New
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      Quote: Operator
      I still don’t understand what China is threatening Russia with: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal, catching all freshwater fish, pumping out all oil and gas (and free of charge) or aggression + 100500 of Chinese divisions?

      Known by what. The Chinese did not abandon the building of communism and their state was very successful. Against the background of our market breaks, they look very convincing. And this is our power of effective managers who fit into the market is very unnerving. Although I must say that China is not perfect. He has a lot of problems. Those who monitor the situation in our country see the discontent of the people and in such a simple way, like these articles about how the Tibetans are lynched by the Chinese, they are trying to patch up the trishkin caftan of their insolvency. I think everyone knows how this ended with the reborn Communist Party. But again, the power of capital from the 90s is still quite strong for us, and these attempts by bulk-swamped undercapitalists to pick up those who are now at the helm and feeders look very pitiful. bully
    4. Sunstorm 11 August 2019 16: 26 New
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      quote = Operator] I still didn’t understand what China is threatening Russia with: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal, catching all freshwater fish, pumping out all oil and gas (and for free) or aggression +100500 Chinese divisions? [/ quote]
      There are two categories of threats as I see them: 1) Tactical (this is all that you listed regarding our natural and other resources), why tactical because the damage is noticeable immediately and, in principle, it can be stopped, compensated, suppressed. 2) Strategic - influence on the direction of development, we ourselves can go the Chinese way of socialism / communism (and given our national tradition .. we will not only follow them the way we will catch them and surpass them - we will repeat all their mistakes and make a bunch more of their own), also a possible merger of states into one relates to Strategic.
      ZY The threat does not carry a negative; it is only a warning about the possibility.
    5. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 15 New
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      "than China is threatening Russia now: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal"
      This is what threatens everyone, and also:
      "catching all freshwater fish, aggression of +100500 Chinese divisions?"
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  3. Dart2027 10 August 2019 15: 18 New
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    We have a national tradition of looking for idols abroad, so admiring China or admiring the United States is, in principle, no difference and nothing new.
    As for China, it is by no means the Promised Land and has enough of its problems, like any country, although there are things that really are not a sin to learn from, which, however, is the same in many countries.
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 10 August 2019 21: 14 New
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      Quote: Dart2027
      although there are things that it’s really not a sin to learn,

      And when the Chinese studied with us ... One of the global problems with us is that if we break, then everything is bad and good, but we are not always building good and in the end we remain h then it has .. In fact, with nothing ..
      Quote: Dart2027
      We have a national tradition of looking for idols abroad, so admire

      I really agree here .. I think that this is due to the servility that is inherent in us, I really don’t understand who and when it was laid down .. But look at our officials, they will talk to the higher leadership about the blisters and this is a tradition that comes from far away .. of course this tradition is present everywhere, but it is especially popular with us. That is, when we see that a person / state is successful nearby, for some reason we immediately start looking for a person \ state of patronage (otherwise I can’t explain the love of China), instead of striving to become a successful person / state ourselves. We need to somehow change the psychology ...
      1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 21: 35 New
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        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        I think that this is due to the servility that is inherent in us

        Man, if you are "laid in servility" - so write, "it is in me ...", otherwise not all, KMK, they will understand you correctly ... and forgive laughing

        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        ... when we see that a person / state is successful nearby, for some reason we immediately start looking for a person \ state of patronage ...

        Yet again - speak for yourself when you say such things negative

        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        We need to somehow change the psychology ...

        Not to us, but to you. But, IMHO, it’s too late to rush about request
        1. Underwater hunter
          Underwater hunter 10 August 2019 21: 43 New
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          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Not to us, but to you. But, IMHO, it’s too late to rush about

          You kitty, you .. Your brother is an official just like I described. And I have never been and never will be an official. You protect them so, why?
          1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 22: 21 New
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            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            Your brother is an official just like I described

            I don’t have an official brother, you dreamed, mate laughing

            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            I have never been and never will be an official

            Yes, where are you ... you only know how to complain about the Internet, but throw agitation. Even for an official - these "skills" ... not enough request

            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            You protect them like that

            Whom? I told you not to speak for me, and nothing more. I didn’t charge you for that negative
            1. bbtcs 12 August 2019 07: 12 New
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              Cat Manul is an official himself. Hired internet clerk.
        2. IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2019 12: 45 New
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          Quote: Cat Man Null
          Man, if you are "laid in servility" - so write, "it is in me ...", otherwise not all, KMK, they will understand you correctly ... and forgive

          Perhaps he is not quite right in your attitude. Still, your consciousness is more capitalist than feudal. laughing
          In general, it’s funny to watch all of you petty-bourgeois intellectuals and see how wonderful your behavior fits into the framework of the Marxist theory. laughing
      2. Dart2027 11 August 2019 06: 45 New
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        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        One of the global problems with us is precisely that if we break, then everything .. is both good and bad, but we are not always building good and, as a result, we remain with what we have now

        Unfortunately, this is so.
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        I really agree here .. I think that this is due to the servility that is inherent in us, though I do not understand who and when

        It’s also not clear to me, but what about RI, that in the USSR, that in the Russian Federation you can always hear that "here they have ..."
    2. "We have a national tradition of looking for idols abroad, so admiring China or admiring the United States is, in principle, no difference and nothing new."
      We have exactly the opposite tradition.
      We have many traditions.
      It is not necessary to admire indiscriminately, and not to utterly indoctrinate everything, but to objectively take into account one’s and others ’successes and failures for one’s own goals, to learn from the achievements and mistakes of not only one’s, but also those of others.
      1. Dart2027 11 August 2019 06: 47 New
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        Quote: Lieutenant Colonel USSR Air Force in stock
        It is not necessary to admire indiscriminately, and not to utterly indoctrinate everything, but to objectively take into account one’s and others ’successes and failures for one’s own goals, to learn from the achievements and mistakes of not only one’s, but also those of others.

        Unfortunately, quite often I came across the fact that people are only ready to admire the successes of others, but if we start talking about the failures of others, they immediately begin to be indignant and defend their idols with all their might.
  4. Vasily Ponomarev 10 August 2019 15: 27 New
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    Well, we gnaw at America, and we need to look for hope that someone will come and help them overcome
    1. nesvobodnaja 10 August 2019 15: 55 New
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      This America is biting with us, despite all our peace efforts, declaring the Russian Federation an enemy.
      1. Vasily Ponomarev 10 August 2019 16: 47 New
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        it all started with Crimea, remember? then we are not there we are
        1. monah 10 August 2019 19: 17 New
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          Personally for me, it all started even not with throwing riot police on bottles with a combustible mixture, but with the adoption of the language law on the first day after the coup and the sending of Nazi good to Donbas!
          1. Mordvin 3 10 August 2019 22: 58 New
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            Quote: monah
            For me, it all started even not with throwing OMON bottles with combustible mixtures, but with the adoption of the language law on the first day after the coup and the sending of Nazi good to Donbas!

            What are you talking about?
            Somehow in the magazine "We", at the end of the 80's, I read a poem:
            Passed acid rain
            Babakhnu nuclear power plant ...
            Why is someone with mines
            Where you do not have to climb ...
            And the chosen ones of the people
            We are told to be patient.
            - After four years,
            there will be a garden city!
        2. Nyrobsky 10 August 2019 21: 39 New
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          it all started with Crimea, remember? then we are not there we are

          It all started with Putin’s Munich speech in 2007, when he called for a move away from the unipolar world and offered Europe to develop economic ties from Lisbon to Vladivostok, which caused an involuntary bunch of “hegemon” and such “impudence” he had not heard since the USSR surrendered. Well, then there was Magnitsky and the first sanctions, the answer to which was the law of Dima Yakovlev, and then "foreign agents", etc. Crimea, creaked and boil on Biden's ass with scabies at Theresa May.
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          It all started much earlier than Crimea, for many years.
      2. Svidetel 45 10 August 2019 23: 35 New
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        And America is “gnawing” us because it’s our own fault, it loves our leadership very much to play giveaways, for example, they are our diplomats with their knees in the ass, and we invite children of their diplomats to the Christmas tree, who are kind, white and fluffy, already feels sick.
    2. region58 11 August 2019 02: 04 New
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      someone will come and help them overcome

      No one will come and no one will help. If only then they will join. As a rule, allies appear in those who win ... yes
  5. rocket757 10 August 2019 15: 34 New
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    China, of course, is a great neighbor, it is necessary to cooperate with him in some matters ... but Russia, as before, only has two reliable and loyal friends - the ARMY and. FLEET! This must always be remembered.
    1. Vasily Ponomarev 10 August 2019 15: 46 New
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      Of course you're right, but you should have allies like the USSR, not to mention the states
      1. rocket757 10 August 2019 17: 01 New
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        I pointed out one, unshakable postulate ...... and then act on the situation!
        Situational wards, companions to some extent allies! No one has canceled the rule, the enemy of my enemy, at least a fellow traveler. But you can call such an ally, only carefully!
        Act in their own interests and to some extent, a fellow traveler-ally. It can’t do without it, in short according to the situation.
        After all, nothing new, very tricky for a long time! Learn history, develop brains !!!
        Yes, do not leave allies, even fellow travelers, do not betray ... at least the first. For an ally and vigilantly watch and if that ???? Then according to the situation, as it turned out.
        We will be hiccuping for a long time, for a couple of previous goats-reds, which are noted in our history in the most negative way !!!
      2. bessonov932 10 August 2019 17: 17 New
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        "How is the USSR"? Specify, pzhst, in what period? In 1979 - 1089? Tell us about the ATS units in Afghanistan.
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          Quote: bessonov932
          "How is the USSR"? Specify, pzhst, in what period? In 1979 - 1089? Tell us about the ATS units in Afghanistan.

          The imposition of their ideology, to everyone and everyone, has greatly reduced the number of people who want to be friends with us, at least for how long! Threw our ideologists / strategists homegrown, the only way.
      3. Gardamir 10 August 2019 19: 11 New
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        allies should be
        Allies, not partners.
    2. nikvic46 10 August 2019 17: 03 New
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      Victor. I would add. The Army, Navy and People. It is the people who create everything necessary for the Army and Navy.
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        I agree! OUR people, this is the main wealth, hope and support of our country.
    3. freddyk 10 August 2019 17: 50 New
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      Quote: rocket757
      Russia, as before, has only two reliable, loyal friends - the ARMY and. FLEET! This must always be remembered.

      The army and navy are good, of course. But they are dependent on power. And they will not protect from the internal enemy. So these friends are not enough for the security of the country.
      1. rocket757 10 August 2019 18: 25 New
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        Quote: freddyk
        Quote: rocket757
        Russia, as before, has only two reliable, loyal friends - the ARMY and. FLEET! This must always be remembered.

        The army and navy are good, of course. But they are dependent on power. And they will not protect from the internal enemy. So these friends are not enough for the security of the country.

        We are not about disengagement within the country. We consider external aspects.
        An internal confrontation, if suddenly ..... in short, a very broad question worthy of special discussion!
    4. Plate 10 August 2019 22: 48 New
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      Fortunately, great technological progress has provided us with a third ally. VKS!
      1. rocket757 11 August 2019 06: 56 New
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        Alexander the third was not a Fantazer, so he talked about what is.
        Nowadays, we have to think about the space fleet!
        1. Plate 11 August 2019 19: 09 New
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          By no means do I encroach on the wisdom of Alexander III. I just made a correction for modern conditions.
  6. Kronos 10 August 2019 15: 35 New
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    The author brazenly lies telling about the admiration of the Nazis against the USSR - just all sorts of monarchists and whiteguards admired the Nazis + the church saw them as an instrument against the Bolsheviks. They look at China with enthusiasm because it could become the 2nd economy of the planet from a backward and weak country.
  7. parusnik 10 August 2019 15: 36 New
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    In order not to fall under the distribution, although Russia regularly receives cuffs in the form of sanctions, the economy should be stronger than the Chinese one.
  8. Amateur 10 August 2019 15: 40 New
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    So much poison in one article - you need to be able to. no
    1. TAMBU 10 August 2019 16: 53 New
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      talent. I have one in the state specifically to increase activity on sites that are declining or where the activity in the comments is low ... in life, a sweet guy and a cool football player. But as soon as he receives the task ...))
  9. Vovan 10 August 2019 15: 41 New
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    Another example of liberal propaganda, and quite cheap and artless: according to the same patterns, the times of the formation of the USSR were blamed on us - to the delight of network hamsters.
    1. NordOst16 10 August 2019 16: 05 New
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      Or rather, they revealed the truth that the adherents of "beautiful far away" didn’t like it wildly
      1. Vovan 10 August 2019 21: 37 New
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        When the authors of the "ajar truth" are poked into the open truth, the latter will be wiped out more easily by demons - you see, the documents in the archives of the wrong system, and in general a fake.
        1. NordOst16 11 August 2019 10: 19 New
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          Well, yes, and when they try to convince the adherents of communism with documents from the same archives, they either do not notice, or announce all those who disagree as spies of the West.
          Difficult times, in places of excesses, etc.
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            Once again - for those who are in the "house": supposedly "documents" from the same supposed archives, designed to convince the "adherents of communism" are either invented or falsified by wrestlers, which is convincingly shown in hundreds of articles and dozens of books. But you don’t read this - it’s all not true.
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              Of course, it’s easier to call a lie all that does not fit into the worldview of adherents
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                If archival documents do not fit into your worldview, these are your personal heroic difficulties.
  10. Sahalinets 10 August 2019 15: 41 New
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    You just need to understand that the Chinese are not friends to us, but travel companions, and they are purely temporary. And for China itself, we are not only temporary fellow travelers, but also weak and far from the most important ...
    1. Fan-fan 11 August 2019 13: 15 New
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      Putin is looking for allies in the world at all costs. Erdogan was bought with cheap oil, a nuclear power plant, which is completely under construction on our own loans and sales, again on credit with s-400.
      And with China, we are also trying to oil them with the Power of Siberia project, which is completely unprofitable for us, and Gazprom’s motivation becomes clear when you find out that the contractors of the Power of Siberia are Stroytransgaz (Gennady Timchenko), building 1026 km and Stroygazmontazh (Arkady Rotenberg), building 1124 km The Amur GPP, in turn, builds Sibur - also a company "from close circle", with a significant share of Gennady Timchenko.
      1. Greenwood 12 August 2019 04: 21 New
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        Alas, all these foreign "allies" will throw us at the first need. And all these "respected" gentlemen Timchenko, Rotenberg and other friends know who, in the same way, when necessary, they will take private jets to their foreign villas and accounts in foreign banks. But what will remain after them in Russia is, of course, an interesting question.
  11. Igor Shcherbina 10 August 2019 15: 42 New
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    China has always been an enemy, except for natural resources, the Russian Federation does not need anything from us, only the Far East, and Siberia to the Urals. The Chinese are very cunning, prudent, efficient, unpretentious, they competently buy our officials, led by our leaders, and get official permissions for everything, and they will sell their mother for money. Because, our leaders are not going to live in Russia, they all have children and all the money has long been abroad, they sold us and betrayed us a long time ago, and at any moment they will dump them abroad. But how China is developing, we learn from them, it is necessary, the most important thing is to change, our leaders at any level, the political system and economy, without it we will collapse, we are already on the verge of economic collapse, we still need a couple of dumb and mediocre decisions of our government and United Russia, and society especially in Moscow will explode.
    1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 16: 09 New
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      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      they competently buy our officials, led by our leaders

      Do you have info? So in the FSB that you are vegetating here wink

      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      our leaders in Russia are not going to live, they all have children and all the money has long been abroad

      Which of the leaders specifically have money and / or children abroad? I deliberately simplified the question for you, mind you.

      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      ... it is necessary to change, our leaders at any level, the political system and the economy ...

      Yeah. "Stop this world, I will come down" (c).

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      we are already on the verge of economic collapse

      Can you justify it?

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      especially in Moscow will explode

      Explode, explode ... just a must laughing
    2. depressant 10 August 2019 17: 08 New
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      "Chinese politics is an endless path of cunning."
      Sun Tzu, a Chinese politician of the XNUMXth century BC
      1. Maki Avellevich 10 August 2019 18: 24 New
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        Quote: depressant
        "Chinese politics is an endless path of cunning."
        Sun Tzu, a Chinese politician of the XNUMXth century BC

        the Chinese are so cunning that until recently, even the British, even the Japanese, went there like Ksebe’s home
        1. svp67 11 August 2019 07: 18 New
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          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          the Chinese are so cunning that until recently, even the British, even the Japanese, went there like Ksebe’s home

          So they go now, only "bow"
        2. IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2019 12: 49 New
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          Quote: Maki Avellevich
          the Chinese are so cunning that until recently, even the British, even the Japanese, went there like Ksebe’s home

          It was a very tricky trick. So cunning that even you fellow Jews, as everyone knows the most intelligent and cunning, did not understand it.
    3. freddyk 10 August 2019 17: 45 New
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      Quote: Igor Shcherbina
      They are efficient, unpretentious, they competently buy our officials, headed by our leaders, and receive official permits for everything, and they will sell their mother for money.

      Judging by the foregoing, the main enemies of Russia inside Russia, and even under power. Well, the Chinese just skillfully use this for the good of their country. Well, they’re doing it right.
  12. V1er 10 August 2019 15: 53 New
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    The Russian Federation will be perceived by the whole world as an ally of the international “bad guy”.

    RF is now perceived as the axis of evil all over the world. Like hackers, poisoners and a nuclear gas station. How much worse? NATO was created against us and is pulling its forces to our borders. We were given a clear signal that they would destroy us, but slowly, giving us a chance to fall at our feet and give everything without war. So at least with the devil, but you need to unite in order to survive in this world.
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      We were given a clear signal that they would destroy us

      When? In 1242, or earlier? Let them honk, history shows that nothing will come of them. smile
      1. Kronos 10 August 2019 16: 52 New
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        As it doesn’t work out already
        1. Igor V 10 August 2019 21: 10 New
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          Quote: Kronos
          As it doesn’t work out already

          Well, are we already gone?
          1. Kronos 10 August 2019 21: 50 New
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            Of course, a small piece was left without a goal and ideology
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              And with a declining population.
  13. iouris 10 August 2019 15: 56 New
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    A sign that you are on the wrong side of history is when you are not able to sell, there is no need to produce, but you hope that it will carry over and everything will be fine tomorrow.
  14. NordOst16 10 August 2019 16: 04 New
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    Hehe, i.e. the author does not hide the fact that Russia has no future as the largest economic and political center in the world. Well, I don’t think it’s good to bury the Russian Federation like that, but it’s definitely good to realize that we are not the most influential country in the political and especially economic plans, for recognizing the problem is part of its solution.
    As for the fact that China is a very situational ally to us, but rather a competitor, also agrees.
    But here only the question begs at the end - what will happen if we move away from China and he wins in the new Cold War? What then? Also take the wrong side of history?
    1. Greenwood 12 August 2019 04: 27 New
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      Quote: NordOst16
      Russia has no future as the largest economic, political center in the world
      Such a future is quite possible for the Russian Federation. There is enough human, industrial, resource potential for this. But not with this power. The comprador thief, seizing state assets in the 90s and successfully skimming the cream, will not deal with the development of the country. What we now see against the background of a decrease in social programs, as well as a decrease in schools and hospitals across the country, coupled with a drop in fertility.
      1. NordOst16 12 August 2019 09: 10 New
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        That's just nobody wants to change it
  15. samarin1969 10 August 2019 16: 10 New
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    Difficult to understand who the author is contacting? For most, China is simply not the most prestigious maid in. But those who think and do not think to idealize China.
    But the experience of developing high technologies, localizing production, and fighting corruption is worthy of study and respect.
  16. alex-sherbakov48 10 August 2019 16: 26 New
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    We must keep our eyes open with China, for it can easily choose a very advantageous moment for itself in order to drive a knife into our backs. I served in the Soviet Army when events occurred on Damansky Island and in the area of ​​Lake Zhalanash Kol, and before these there were provocations of hunweibins against our border guards, they were simply beaten with sticks with rusty nails hammered at their ends, and our border guards were strictly forbidden to shoot. And what they did to our dead and wounded border guards on Domansky is not subject to any excuse or forgiveness. They still have claims to our territories. Russia in the current period has already given up several islands. And what did Chinese migrant workers on the lands that they rented in some areas of our country - after them, according to our agronomists, nothing grows. Tourists coming to Lake Baikal directly say that this is their lake, once leased to Russia, and they will certainly take it to themselves. I will not hide something worth learning from them - after all, they have become the second economy in the world, while Russia, which had every chance of this place, has slipped into an economic abyss.
  17. Earthshaker 10 August 2019 16: 29 New
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    Honestly, after reading I want to swear, I can hardly restrain myself. I do not want to become a Chinese or an ally of China, but I like two points in their domestic politics:
    1. The death penalty to embezzlers.
    2. Tax exemption for citizens with an annual income of less than 500 rubles (in terms of).
    We are to China, as to the moon.
    And yes, from 2020 we will also have labor camps (concentration ones?), Here we joyfully pick up experience.
  18. swzero 10 August 2019 16: 33 New
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    And I would vote for the Russian branch of the CCP. Our local communists have long degenerated. And China now demonstrates the only alternative option for the development of society, not based on Western values. Well, the Chinese have borrowed a lot from the USSR - look at the form of their army and navy. Yes, and much more they adopted from the USSR. If we call the Varangians, then let them be the Chinese. There is at least some chance that from old memory they will help us to rise from our knees and not finish them off, as was the case with the arrival of emissaries from Sassh. PS. The throw-in is apparently commissioned by the current ruling clique, for which the Chinese Communists are like an eyesore.
    1. gsev 11 August 2019 04: 52 New
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      And I would vote for the Russian branch of the CCP

      It’s very expensive to be a Chinese Communist. There is more demand from the communists than from the non-communist. It is likely that most party leaders would prefer to flee to the ends of the world than fulfill the requirements that are imposed on CCP members. I suppose that it is more profitable to be the owner of a gas station in Russia than the mayor of a million-strong city in China.
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        Quote: gsev
        There is more demand from the communists than from the non-communist.
        It should be so. The party should be exclusively ideological people, not careerists and opportunists.
        Quote: gsev
        most party leaders would rather flee to the ends of the world than fulfill the demands placed on CCP members.
        This is good, the party will be cleared of all garbage.
        Quote: gsev
        I suppose that it is more profitable to be the owner of a gas station in Russia than the mayor of a million-strong city in China.
        The plus here is that a truly ideological person and specialist who thinks how to realize his ideas for the benefit of the region entrusted to him in the management of the region, and not just another populist-careerist who considers each high position only as a feeder and an opportunity to make money at the expense of the budget, will take such a position ( how this happens, for example, in Primorye).
  19. Old Horseradish 10 August 2019 16: 38 New
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    Why don’t you write who is so hard pumping China with the latest weapons? Which then comes back to us.
    Any fool understands that China is preparing for war. Yes, they will only climb out of Baikal, not to mention everything else.

    Chinese Air Force worked night rocket-bombing attacks in the north-west of the country
    1. Rostislav Bely 10 August 2019 17: 03 New
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      And they (the Chinese) have low temperatures not only among the Uighurs? .. like with your geography about disputed territories, I give a hint about the Himalayas, and hatred with Kazakhs at their everyday level
    2. Old Horseradish 10 August 2019 17: 09 New
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      "German" friends "from the Luftwaffe studied near Lipetsk
      In the prewar years, a secret aviation school and a testing center operated on the territory of the USSR, where future enemies learned to fly together "


      History does not teach us fools anything. Absolutely. How many of these "friends from the Luftwaffe" burned our pilots in the sky? Thousands? Tens of thousands? Are we all few “friends” to look for? Do you want more?

      Now the Chinese are driving the latest weapons. We fools, history does not teach anything.
      1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 17: 28 New
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        Quote: Old Horseradish
        "German" friends "from the Luftwaffe studied near Lipetsk

        In fact, the Germans taught there and they also provided equipment.
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          Quote: Dart2027
          In fact, the Germans taught there and they also provided equipment.

          Stop raving.
          "On April 15, 1925, an agreement was finally signed between Lit Thomsen and the commander of the Red Army Air Force Baranov on the creation of a German aviation school and a testing ground in Lipetsk. Major retired Walter Stara was approved as the head of the school. In June 1925, the school opened but it began to function in operating mode only in the spring of 1926. By the time of its closure in September 1933, about 120 fighters were trained and 100 pilots were trained, as well as many German technical personnel. us by the German Air Force as experienced trainers. In addition to the German pilots and technicians, many Soviet pilots and technicians were trained in the Lipetsk aviation school.

          In addition, new devices were also tested and flights operated in the harsh winter. The annual budget of the Lipetsk school reached its peak in 1929 and amounted to slightly less than 4 million Reichsmarks. In addition to the Lipetsk aviation school, there were two other German institutions in the Soviet Union: a tank school in Kazan ("Kama"), opened according to the agreement in December 1926, trained about 1929 tank crews from 1933 to 30, and a laboratory in Volsk ("Tomka" ) from 1928 to 1931 engaged in the research and testing of chemical weapons. "
          1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 19: 05 New
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            Quote: Old Horseradish
            Stop raving

            Really. It is also advisable to read what you yourself quote.
            Quote: Old Horseradish
            Retired Major Walter Stara was approved as the head of the school

            Is this a citizen of the USSR or Germany? We look further and look on the Internet for the text that you quoted.
            In addition, starting in mid-1924, seven German advisers and instructors worked with pilots from Soviet flight units.

            https://photochronograph.ru/2015/04/19/sekretnaya-nemecko-sovetskaya-lyotnaya-shkola-v-lipecke/
            Well? So who's raving here?
            1. Old Horseradish 10 August 2019 20: 32 New
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              I’ll write again. You rave.
              "The opening of the German aviation school in the USSR was planned since 1924. The documents on the creation of the school on April 15, 1925 in Moscow were signed by the head of the Air Force of the Red Army P. I. Baranov and the representative of the Sondergroup R (Vogru) Colonel H. von der Lit-Thomsen The creation of the school was led by the “German Air Defense Inspectorate No. 1.” The use of the airfield and school facilities was free of charge, all expenses for the full equipment were borne by the German side. About 2 million marks were allocated annually for the maintenance of the school.

              The Germans in a very short time reconstructed production facilities, built two small hangars, a repair shop, and already on July 15, 1925, a joint flight tactical school was opened. Initially, the material base was 50 Fokker D-XIII fighters purchased by Vogru with funds from the Ruhr Foundation in the Netherlands in 1923-1925. June 28, 1925 aircraft arrived from Stettin to Leningrad on the ship "Edmund Hugo Stinnes." Also transport aircraft and bombers were purchased. The training of flight personnel took place over 5-6 months. The school was led by Major W. Shtar, also provided for the post of Soviet deputy, representative of the Red Army.

              In the summer, during the flight period, ground personnel numbered over 200 people (from the German side - about 140 people), in winter the figure decreased (from the German side - about 40 people). In 1932, the total number of personnel of the center reached 303 people: 43 German and 26 Soviet cadets, 234 workers, employees and technical specialists. The leadership of the Reichswehr strictly controlled all the details of the activities of joint structures on the territory of the USSR, special attention was paid to secrecy. German pilots wore Soviet uniforms without insignia.

              At the school, research work was carried out for which the material part of the German General Staff was secretly acquired abroad. The practical training course for pilots included practicing aerial combat, bombing from various positions, studying weapons and equipment for aircraft - machine guns, cannons, optical instruments (sights for bombing and mirror sights for fighters), etc.

              In just eight years of the existence of the aviation school in Lipetsk, 120 fighter pilots were trained or retrained in it (30 of them were participants in the First World War, 20 were former civil aviation pilots) for Germany. The exact number of Soviet aviation specialists trained by German instructors could not be established. "
              1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 20: 49 New
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                Quote: Old Horseradish
                The Germans in a very short time reconstructed production facilities, built two small hangars, a repair shop, and already on July 15, 1925, a joint flight tactical school was opened.

                That is, the Germans taught Soviet pilots, and it was beneficial to the USSR, as I wrote. It was
                Quote: Old Horseradish
                120 fighter pilots were trained or retrained there
                which they couldn’t burn
                Quote: Old Horseradish
                our pilots in the sky? Thousands? Tens of thousands?
                purely physically.
                Quote: Old Horseradish
                also provided for the post of Soviet deputy, representative of the Red Army
                And what did this deputy do in a school built by the Germans?
                Not tired of refuting yourself with your own quotes?
      2. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 22 New
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        "German" friends "from the Luftwaffe studied near Lipetsk"
        Why do they have such an air-party uniform:
        Cap, cigar on the left and riding breeches?!?! ...
  20. Rostislav Bely 10 August 2019 16: 39 New
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    Note to the author - cute scolding (about the Chinese) ... and you won’t wash a Japanese male to white. You forget that the biological war launched by Japan still has consequences, and these grandchildren stutter something about the "northern territories" ...
    Encephalitis was not known to the pioneers of Siberia, migrants to the Far East until the 1930s. In the 1920s, an epidemic occurred in Japan, killing several thousand people. The carrier of the virus was a mosquito. Perhaps this was the first test of biological weapons using insects. But the mosquito is too dangerous and unpredictable distributor of a deadly disease. Therefore, the Japanese militarists have chosen a slower, but surefire way to carry the virus - a tick that is widespread in the Far Eastern and Siberian taiga.
    In 1937, among the soldiers of the Far Eastern Red Army, an epidemic of an unknown disease began, often leading to deaths. A special expedition of military microbiologists Professor Zilber was urgently sent from Moscow. They discovered the virus, its carrier - a tick. Almost immediately, they began to sin on the Japanese military. But there was no evidence. Only after World War II did it become known that the notorious "Detachment 731" of the Kwantung Army had been conducting experiments with biological weapons since 1933 in Manchuria. It was in that year, by the way, that our doctor Panov made a clinical description of a new disease for the first time in the USSR East. Called later tick-borne encephalitis. In 1945, after the USSR entered the war with Japan, by order of the commander of the Kwantung Army, General Otazo Yamada, the secret military town of microbiologists was destroyed. However, it was not possible to hide all traces of the crime: the evidence collected in this case was included in the materials of the Khabarovsk trial of Japanese war criminals in 1949. In Japan, the epidemic of mosquito encephalitis was stopped and completely eliminated. In the USSR and Russia, tick-borne encephalitis turned out to be a time bomb. In the 1960s, an infected tick crossed the Yenisei, in the 1980s it crawled across the Urals and is currently found throughout Russia.
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      You forget that the biological war launched by Japan still has consequences, and these grandchildren stutter something about the "northern territories" ...
      Encephalitis was not known to the pioneers of Siberia, migrants to the Far East until the 1930s. In the 1920s, an epidemic occurred in Japan, killing several thousand people. The carrier of the virus was a mosquito. Perhaps this was the first test of biological weapons using insects. But the mosquito is too dangerous and unpredictable distributor of a deadly disease. Therefore, the Japanese militarists have chosen a slower, but surefire way to carry the virus - a tick that is widespread in the Far Eastern and Siberian taiga.

      In the 30s, the valiant bodies of the NKVD believed that L. Zilber organized an epidemic of plague in Azerbaijan, and later organized an epidemic of encephalitis using a water supply system. At least the denunciation, "that L. Zilber mixes encyphalitis in the water supply" was the reason for the arrest of this great scientist. There are memoirs of the diplomat Kapitsa in which he mentions that the office of L. Beria spread fables about the US use of bacteriological weapons in China and Korea. So this question is complicated. It must be solved by a competent scientific community of historians, biologists. Previously, such issues were often addressed in the collection "In Defense of Science." Later, the compilers of these collections attacked the charlatans that they had taken to clean water and now the issues “In Defense of Science” have become less frequent.
      1. Rostislav Bely 11 August 2019 14: 22 New
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        In the 37th, Trotskyists from the OGPU-NKVD were put up against the wall for fabricating cases (in particular, up to a third of the employees had a Bolshevik past, and persons with working or peasant descent made up an absolute minority (about 42%). the period of the internal party struggle in the 20s, a certain part of the OGPU was constituted by the ideological supporters of Trotsky.), and Trotsky called for sabotage and terrorist acts ... teach history
    2. Fan-fan 11 August 2019 16: 16 New
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      Maybe for fawning over China, Putin gave them 337 square kilometers of Russia - Tarabarova Island and part of the Bolshoi Ussuriysky Island?
      1. Rostislav Bely 11 August 2019 21: 28 New
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        This is complete nonsense, you have a big giraffe-like syndrome, he knows better ... During the Japanese occupation of China, the USSR took control of many islands on the Chinese side of the fairway on the Amur and Ussuri (mind you, we were allies then) - under Gorbat, who to the end did not solve this issue - gifts to the warriors made much more significant, recall Shevardnadze?
  21. scorpio 10 August 2019 16: 46 New
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    The author honestly fulfilled the order to orient the “Russians” on the “right side of history.” You might think that the benevolent image of Russia has existed for centuries already in nature. By the way, everyone has the right side of history. This is Russia and should be on this side. not adhere to the strong. Russia will survive, only by becoming strong, or they will devour it. Not those, these.
    1. gsev 11 August 2019 05: 24 New
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      So Russia needs to be on this side

      One must not be on one’s side, but on the side of truth. During the difficult years of China, Sun Yat-sen showed the Chinese that the internationalism of the Bolsheviks made Russia great again, and that the internationalism of the Bolsheviks was the most patriotic Russian force.
  22. TAMBU 10 August 2019 16: 46 New
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    Are you an author in your mind?
    A stinging analogy arises: similar gentlemen-comrades in the spring of 1941 could praise - and praised - another great continental power, supposedly an ally of the state of workers and peasants in the struggle against Western imperialism. Exactly until June 22, 1941, when the "ally" showed his true face.

    It begs either from those who are studying in the 6th grade of a comprehensive school or from clients of a psychiatric hospital. Hitler Germany was not an ally for the USSR. The Allies do not sign a non-aggression pact, the Allies sign a cooperation agreement. And the civil war in Spain? Well, or from the opposite: where and when was the agreement on cooperation in the military or economic union signed? But I found the answer to my very first question in the course of reading the article. and it seems to me that it’s in its own way, and the article - sounding the “soil” is very primitive ... here for example
    A nation that has delivered the wrong geopolitical power will eventually have to pay for its choice.
    Let's talk about Vladimir, who placed on Byzantium and Orthodoxy, and not on Rome and Catholicism. But in fact, if you dig deeper and analyze this question, it turns out that posing such a question and in this way is in the plane of logic a jackal from the cartoon of Mowgli - a reptile, cowardly and vile provocateur. Isn`t it?
    1. Professor 10 August 2019 17: 43 New
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      Quote: TAMBU
      It begs either from those who are studying in the 6th grade of a comprehensive school or from clients of a psychiatric hospital. Hitler Germany was not an ally for the USSR. Allies do not sign non-aggression pact, allies sign cooperation agreement

      A contract for friendship You forgot?
      1. TAMBU 10 August 2019 17: 55 New
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        I had a talented lawyer who emphasized with a marker words in speech that should be spoken accentuated. once, like you, he “forgot” one word and emphasized another, and like now everything has changed its meaning. extremely curious that the crook works the same way around the world, don’t you?
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          Quote: TAMBU
          I had a talented lawyer who emphasized with a marker words in speech that should be spoken accentuated. once, like you, he “forgot” one word and emphasized another, and like now everything has changed its meaning. extremely curious that the crook works the same way around the world, don’t you?

          And my cat loved cat food. She was ready to sell her homeland for him. Nevertheless, between the USSR and Nazi Germany, an agreement was concluded on FRIENDSHIP. fellow
          1. TAMBU 10 August 2019 19: 53 New
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            they say pets adopt the best from their owners ... probably lie ...
            1. Professor 11 August 2019 06: 30 New
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              Quote: TAMBU
              they say pets adopt the best from their owners ... probably lie ...

              This year's corn harvest will exceed all expectations.

              Quote: gsev
              Quote: Professor
              between the USSR and Nazi Germany was signed an agreement on FRIENDSHIP.

              Do you remember that during the conclusion of the nonaggression pact, there was a war between Japan and the USSR. And Khalkhin-Gol’s blood flowed then no less than now in the Donbass. And the peace was observed precisely after the conclusion of the pact with Hitler.

              Do you remember that during the conclusion of the FRIENDSHIP treaty with Nazi Germany, concentration camps were already functioning in it?

              Quote: Dart2027
              Indeed, one must remember the story. And this one

              1. If your neighbor is a pedophile, does this also give you the right to squeeze children in the elevator?
              2. From your list only two countries have concluded FRIENDSHIP agreements with Nazi Germany: fascist Italy and the USSR. Great company.

              PS.
              The beginning of World War II is not the 1938th, but the 1939th year when Nazi Germany and the USSR collusively attacked their neighbors.
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                Quote: Professor
                Do you remember that during the conclusion of the FRIENDSHIP treaty with Nazi Germany, concentration camps were already functioning in it?

                We remember a lot of things. Including the Munich conspiracy.
                Quote: Professor
                From your list, only two countries have concluded FRIENDSHIP agreements with Nazi Germany: fascist Italy and the USSR. Great company.

                A thin world is better than a good war. But the Israelites who came to her, of course, know better.
                Quote: Professor
                The beginning of World War II is not the 1938th, but the 1939th year when Nazi Germany and the USSR collusively attacked their neighbors.

                Yes, yes we must shed tears over the hyena of Europe. Stalin = Hitler. Look, make no mistake, otherwise the gesheft will not burn out on this wave.
              2. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 22: 49 New
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                Netovarisch Prokhfessor answer please who attacked the USSR.
                It is not worth mentioning Finland, it all happened when all the possibilities for bargaining were exhausted ...
                And besides, not with Germany ...
                And if you are talking about Poland, then there are 100500 documents, about where the USSR offered Poland military assistance in the event of a German attack ...
                So I congratulate you on your lies, pro-professor ...
                Juggles like a small thimble at a train station ...
                1. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 27 New
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                  For us, in this case, with any choice, we find ourselves on the wrong side of history ...
                2. Professor 12 August 2019 08: 15 New
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                  We persuaded Finland to leave for the road. Scoop attacked Romania in 1940, occupying Bessarabia and Bokovina, attacked Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. He attacked Poland. After the Second World War, the scoop treacherously attacked Japan, despite all his obligations to Japan.
                  1. TAMBU 12 August 2019 14: 25 New
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                    The USSR also attacked Poland, the Baltic states and Romania, as Israel did to Palestine and Syria ... that's 1 in 1. only the scale, of course, was larger and had its own resources, not "partners" behind it.
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                      Quote: TAMBU
                      The USSR also attacked Poland, the Baltic states and Romania, as Israel did to Palestine and Syria ... that's 1 in 1. only the scale, of course, was larger and had its own resources, not "partners" behind it.

                      Go, go. I serve only on Saturdays.
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                        yes to health. on Saturdays you can’t do anything at all ... just read fairy tales and roll on the couch =)
            2. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 39 New
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              Tambu
              Not the topic:
              I watched your film to the place where some third opposite appears and surrendered ...
              Just where the peasant says that it is here that the majority who are trying to study Hegel and surrender ...
              Alas, not mine.
              The peasant really liked it, like most of those who came from the natural sciences, trying to reduce everything to the elementary ... but alas, even such an elementary is not given to everyone.
              Thank you for the film, but it did not grow together.
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                I’ve mastered it from the third ... but he explains the next transition in puffs but already studied it himself ... the transitions are becoming more difficult)) but yes ... now I’ll think more about terminology before saying something and notice that when someone something simplifies usually tries to deceive you ... such is everyday observation)
          2. Svidetel 45 11 August 2019 00: 18 New
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            Yes, how you Russophobia still does not give rest to this agreement with Germany, because how your ancestors would like us to still clash with Hitler face to face, this is in the best case, and in the worst - they would help him stop the "Bolshevik hordes ”, but thanks to the wise policies of the Soviet leadership these vile plans of yours were not destined to come true, the beast you fed to destroy Russia turned out to be not as manageable as you expected that you used Stalin, and you had to help us“ tame ”it beast still on e CB about itchy experience in a certain place.
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            Quote: Professor
            between the USSR and Nazi Germany was signed an agreement on FRIENDSHIP.

            Do you remember that during the conclusion of the nonaggression pact, there was a war between Japan and the USSR. And Khalkhin-Gol’s blood flowed then no less than now in the Donbass. And the peace was observed precisely after the conclusion of the pact with Hitler.
      2. Dart2027 10 August 2019 19: 08 New
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        Quote: Professor
        A friendship treaty

        Indeed, one must remember the story. And this one
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          One minus is, but there is nothing to argue.
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          Quote: Dart2027
          Really, you need to remember the story

          Indeed, some kind of epidemic - I remember, I don’t remember there!
          You can’t even argue with diseases! Settled as Ass- .... doctor, I have it!
          In addition, THIS is selective for them, all THIS are their sins, but tsuzu will be landed !!!
          And you won’t prove to them that at that moment there are not so many “saints,” there were few, they, their allies, were friends, they did NOT fall into that category!
  23. Robin - Bobbin 10 August 2019 16: 51 New
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    So far, the internal enemy is doing more harm to us - stupid, and even corrupt officials, with the help of which our resources are thieves. China only takes advantage of this.
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      And he uses it very skillfully.
      1. depressant 10 August 2019 22: 29 New
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        Speaking of officials.
        Since 2000, the number of officials in Russia has increased from 1,2 million to almost three million. Most officials are women. The average age is 39 to 40 years. Leaders are men.
        In the USSR, with a population of 300 million, there were only 400 thousand officials, including the military nomenclature. This is a little over 0,1% of the population.
        Now, with a population of 145 million, their 2%, which is defined as the "overload" of society and is one of the causes of economic problems in Russia. There is such a thing as the limit of government spending on servicing itself. When it is exceeded, the economy receives an unbearable burden.
        The number of officials continues to grow, the population decreases.
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          Quote: depressant
          The number of officials continues to grow, the population decreases.

          An even sadder picture. In a company where I work part-time accountants more than engineers. Those who came up with such statutory reporting and accounting did more harm to Russia than terrorists, sanctions, NATO, and Ukrainian Nazis combined.
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          Depression
          "Speaking of officials."
          and what does China have to do with it ...
  24. Catfish 10 August 2019 17: 00 New
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    The main troubles from the pro-Chinese orientation are that if the Celestial Empire eventually loses its cold or hot war with the West, the Russian Federation that failed to maintain the balance will be perceived by the whole world as an ally of the international "bad guy." With all the consequences.


    And the author is not in the know that Russia has long been in the status of a "bad guy" for the whole stinky West? Maintain balance in what? “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”, albeit temporary, but if the goals coincide, this “friendship” will not hurt. I don’t understand, the author is proposing to build the policy of our country with constant eye on that, but "what the West will say about this." Some kind of nonsense, since the time of Ivan the Terrible, if not earlier, they considered us savages and were afraid of Russia, and neither our kings nor the general secretaries who replaced them were looking very much at them. Something has changed since the nineties, but now everything seems to be back to square one. It seems to be. At least I would like to believe in it. I am about the foreign policy of Russia.
    As for China, more precisely, to the Chinese, I served there on the Amur River at the time of Damansky, did not participate in battles, but I am well informed that "highly cultured Chinese" worked with the bodies of our fallen border guards. And in general, there is a completely different mentality and you need to trust the Chinese with great care.
    This is just a personal addition.
    1. maden.usmanow 10 August 2019 18: 37 New
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      Speak to the West did not look back?

      What language did the nobility speak in RI?
      In Chinese?

      In what image did Peter I carry out his reforms?
      In Chinese?

      Nicholas II to whom there was a cousin?
      Chinese tangerine?

      Who justified and approved the communist idea, the proletariat, etc.?

      Chinese scientist?
      1. Catfish 10 August 2019 19: 16 New
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        Sumptuously! You are a plus.

        What was the “nobility” of the nobility in RI? Until October 1917? Good example.

        What language did the nobility speak in RI? On obscene, when lying with rifles on frozen ground during the "Ice Campaign" looking back to the West.

        Peter I didn’t go to China, perhaps if he had gone, then the reforms in Russia would have had a “tangerine” shade.

        No matter who the second cousin of Nikki was, his relatives did not help him survive in that troubled time.

        About communism, the proletariat and the idea, with all the justifications and statements - this is to comrades with the fifth column in the Soviet passport.

        About Chinese scientists, please contact them.

        If you pretend that you did not understand the meaning of what I wrote, then it’s good for your health. But I believe that they understood, and there’s nothing more to say here. Although ... you can tryndet if there is nothing to do.
  25. cniza 10 August 2019 17: 08 New
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    The main troubles from the pro-Chinese orientation are that if the Celestial Empire eventually loses its cold or hot war with the West, the Russian Federation that failed to maintain the balance will be perceived by the whole world as an ally of the international "bad guy." With all the consequences.


    Very controversial conclusion.
    1. Fan-fan 11 August 2019 16: 40 New
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      Celestial China will eventually lose its cold or hot war with the West,

      What kind of war? China is not so insane as to fight the West. The war between China and the West exists only in the inflamed brain of some of our citizens.
  26. Professor 10 August 2019 17: 23 New
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    I subscribe to every word of the author.
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      Quote: Professor
      I subscribe to every word of the author

      But for some reason this worries me request
    2. Quote: Cat Man Null
      Quote: Professor
      I subscribe to every word of the author

      But for some reason this worries me request

      ***
      But for some reason I am worried about your concern. request
      1. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 06 New
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        Quote: Professor
        I subscribe to every word of the author

        But for some reason this worries me request

        ***
        But for some reason I’m worried about your concern. "
        “FSO is very suspicious!” - they conspired!
        1. Ehanatone 11 August 2019 23: 43 New
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          Why, what rules of the site did I violate in this particular case?
          Why did you delete my comment?
          I will be a salaryman at the UN !!! am
  27. nikvic46 10 August 2019 17: 28 New
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    It’s not necessary to scold or admire. It is just necessary to take a closer look at why the industrial shift took place. Yes. There was help from the West to China. And we should give preference to China that he skillfully took advantage of this. The main weapon of Asian countries is that the rulers of these countries put consent in the forefront in society. For us sometimes some actions seem strange. But all their efforts are aimed at different sections of the population. Do not cause hostility. And for this you need to observe continuity, tradition. Not showing off, but in practice. "I love only Russian," said the rich man sitting down p ul foreign cars.
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      Quote: nikvic46
      The main weapon of Asian countries is the fact that the rulers of these countries put consensus in society at the forefront

      Is the Cultural Revolution in China itself a “consensus in society”?
      Tianan Square ... tfu ... less - is it agreement in society? Internet censorship in China itself is also, presumably, the fruit of social consensus. good

      There is such a dictatorship that "you never dreamed of." And not only, by the way, in China.

      Quote: nikvic46
      But all their efforts are aimed at different segments of the population. Do not cause enmity. And for this it is necessary to observe continuity, traditions. Not showing off, but in practice

      You are pulling an owl. IMHO.
      1. vvnab 10 August 2019 22: 40 New
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        Is the Cultural Revolution in China itself a “consensus in society”?
        Tianan Square ... tfu ... less - is it agreement in society? Internet censorship in China itself is also, presumably, the fruit of social consensus.

        That's it! It is in these ways that they reach agreement. Subjugation of the minority to the will of the majority. And if you play in tolerance and follow the lines of various marginal groups, there can be no agreement.
      2. nikvic46 11 August 2019 06: 09 New
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        Roman. I understand your indignation. But I also believe in people who have traveled to modern China. Not everything is smooth according to our concepts. "We asked the administrator why there are so many workers. He replied that some of the unemployed people who are dating the state work here." . Lack of window dressing, that’s what drives this country today. And many countries can envy the abundance of tourists. There is something to see not even in the center of the country.
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          And the Chinese themselves are numerous tourists. I was in St. Petersburg in July, so there are most Chinese tourists there, they generally go in columns in the Hermitage. We would live poorly, would not go on tourist trips.
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    The question is where to go to Russia? With the collapse of the UNION, we have become a country of the third WORLD having lost almost everything and have to look for an ally, and as in the proverb, without fish and cancer, that is, China.
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    Here, many come out with pink snot and drool over our "friend" - China.
    "Great! We pump up our potential enemy with modern Russian weapons. And they don’t even let us into Damansky, like the invaders.
    The Chinese are raising their soldiers in hatred of us. Here is a fact for you: a museum in Damansky - Russians are not allowed there !!! You can continue to come out with your pink snot about friendship with the Chinese.
    It's not a sin to repeat the old comment of Old Horseradish. Well, so: the Chinese people consider the Russian occupiers and are not allowed into the museum on Damansky !!!!!
    On the island of Daman is now a museum of military glory of the Chinese. Young Chinese come and learn how to fight for their native land (former Russian). RUSSIANS, AS OCCUPIERS, THERE DO NOT LAUNCH THIS "
  30. Sergey49 10 August 2019 18: 52 New
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    Article is nonsense. Admiration should not be confused with a statement of fact.
    Once the poor China received handouts from the USSR, but we rested on our laurels and puff out our cheeks about former greatness, and China is moving forward and is no longer just catching up, but surpassing us in a "circle".
    China shows that to fight corruption and return money from abroad, not to allow the withdrawal of capital in offshore companies - is useful for the country.
  31. nnz226 10 August 2019 19: 28 New
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    "Russia has only two allies: its army and its fleet!" (Alexander 3) And the other is from the evil one. China can be seen as a situational ally, but with the option that if necessary, stick a knife in the back ...
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      China can be seen as a situational ally, but with the option that if necessary, stick a knife in the back ...


      Certainly.
  32. yuratanja1950 10 August 2019 20: 30 New
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    Sober opinion about a neighbor ...
    And in vain the Clever man asks the author a question: “Was the question to the author in China? And I was, therefore I admire” ...
    I, too, was not, and - surprisingly - I admire Chinese perseverance and shameless development at the expense of other people's technologies and knowledge, and, frankly, a tambourine that we just do not have this shamelessness ... I copied, made, experienced - and improved ... Something like that ...

    However, I have always believed and still think, and I will continue to believe: China is a threat to peace, and first of all - not the United States, which are far away, but for its neighbors ...
    Just expressed his opinion ... hi
    1. Alexander Ra 10 August 2019 22: 56 New
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      That's right, Chinese globalism is a threat to the whole world. But our misfortune is the lack of a national elite; today we are a people without a brain.
    2. DimerVladimer 12 August 2019 11: 54 New
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      Quote: yuratanja1950
      However, I have always believed and still think, and I will continue to believe: China is a threat to peace, and first of all - not the United States, which are far away, but for its neighbors ..


      But you would have been in China - having talked with hundreds or thousands of people of different backgrounds and abilities, you would have caught one interesting thought - the Chinese consider the United States their main enemy - they do not have a very high opinion of Russia as a strong country, but they do not consider Russia an enemy .
      Ordinary Chinese remember very well who helped the PRC become an independent country, and who fomented a civil war and helped their former enemies - the Kuomintang.

      In general, China is a very complicated country, which would be judged by a couple of theses from the author of the article, who was also not in China.
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        In general, China is a very difficult country to judge about it.


        No doubt ... However, your phrase: "they do not have a very high opinion of Russia as a strong country, but they do not consider Russia an enemy" once again confirms not only my hypothesis that for us China is extremely dangerous ...
        They are just sure that with their peaceful expansion they will take away huge territories from Russia ... But in order to solve territorial issues in nearby Asia, they will have to face the United States defender-Cerberus ...
        That's the whole disposition for today ... In the form of armed forces FOR CHINA now the most dangerous US ...
        And for us, in fact, both those and those ... hi
        1. DimerVladimer 12 August 2019 14: 53 New
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          That's the whole disposition for today ... In the form of armed forces FOR CHINA, the United States is now the most dangerous ...
          And for us, in fact, both those and those ...


          This is very ... simplified.
          The richer the country, the more it has to lose.
          The larger the country's infrastructure, the less the temptation to expose it to military threats due to primitive power expansion. The Chinese have something to lose - with the existing threats of a strategic nuclear conflict. A small military conflict is countered by tactical nuclear weapons, which makes the controversy of military conflicts highly controversial - although military escalation cannot be discounted.

          The Chinese are very tough negotiators - very, very pragmatic, but cautious.
          They will not bluff openly, but they will not yield to confrontation, as is clearly seen from the economic clash with the United States, which Trump unreasonably unleashed.
          China immediately devalued the yuan - which they had to strengthen at the expense of previous years, through the efforts of two previous US presidents.
          Unfortunately, Trump turned out to be not very smart negotiators and lost the positions that his predecessors reached, not having the strength and means to provide pressure on the PRC - I do not already mention that China is the largest owner of American treasuries and can bring down the debt market for a long time, depriving the United States of world opportunities the market. But China is practical - huge financial losses are not in his interests, he will not do this until the United States finally presses.

          As for the Russian Federation - we are a poor country with enormous corruption and a strong army - such is the view of the inhabitants of China.
          We don’t represent the dangers, we sell everything cheaply, salaries are lower than in China - we will sell our resources cheaply to them - that’s the reality.
  33. Goldmitro 10 August 2019 20: 30 New
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    ... the virtually disappeared forests of Mozambique, sent to the Celestial Empire for a "small percentage" for local corrupt officials, or the once-fertile Mekong Delta in Vietnam, almost destroyed by Chinese hydropower plants. This also includes the extermination by armada of fishing vessels of biological resources of the World Ocean "to zero", ...

    This is the logic of “either they or us,” in which Beijing provides itself with the future, while depriving it of everyone else, leaving all other nations without their forests, fertile land, clean water, and nonrenewable treasures of nature.

    In the "Chinese world" other nations have a place on the periphery. The source of raw materials and a place to dump what you don’t want to see at home.
    [/ Quote]
    [quote] As early as the nineties, the population of many Russian regions got acquainted with the Chinese "method of managing", which led to active protests against such "cooperation." Now, “cross-border cooperation” is as much larger as the problems from it.

    And despite all this, the ranks of our fearless bureaucratic thieves of evil greed before the "Chinese investment" with understandable consequences for our country!
    It’s not for this that we defend our sovereignty in front of the impending brazen-Saxon world in order to surrender it to the unceremonious cunning of the “Chinese dragon”!
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    The author honestly worked out the task of his Western masters at all costs to bring confusion between China and Russia. The Chinese threat does not exist for us from the word at all. China is the fleet and butts with mattresses for sea communications through which China receives the lion's share of resources and exports the lion's share of the goods.
  35. malyvalv 10 August 2019 21: 27 New
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    "that failing to maintain the balance of the Russian Federation will be perceived by the whole world as an ally of the international" bad guy ""

    Interestingly, and now the Russian Federation as "the whole world" is perceived? Like a "good guy" or something?
    In addition, we know this "whole world." And what they think about us does not care at all. Let them better correct their image to begin with.
  36. Quote: rocket757
    China, of course, is a great neighbor, it is necessary to cooperate with him in some matters ... but Russia, as before, only has two reliable and loyal friends - the ARMY and. FLEET! This must always be remembered.

    Russia has three reliable friends, true friends - the Ground Forces, the Aerospace Defense Forces and the Navy.
  37. Quote: yuratanja1950
    Sober opinion about a neighbor ...
    And in vain the Clever man asks the author a question: “Was the question to the author in China? And I was, therefore I admire” ...
    I, too, was not, and - surprisingly - I admire Chinese perseverance and shameless development at the expense of other people's technologies and knowledge, and, frankly, a tambourine that we just do not have this shamelessness ... I copied, made, experienced - and improved ... Something like that ...

    However, I have always believed and still think, and I will continue to believe: China is a threat to peace, and first of all - not the United States, which are far away, but for its neighbors ...
    Just expressed his opinion ... hi

    ***
    Let me remind you that other countries in the world (including the USSR and the Russian Federation) have developed and are developing not only at the expense of their own, but also at the expense of other people's technologies, because only fools come up with wheels. To say otherwise is stupid.
    Give an example from the USSR or do you remember?
    And in science, and in technology, and in production, everything is done on the basis of some past scientific discoveries, and not everyone invents out of the blue.
  38. Quote: Subergeil
    I still don’t understand what China is threatening Russia with: total deforestation from Kaliningrad to Vladivostok, drinking Lake Baikal, catching all freshwater fish, pumping out all the oil and gas (and free of charge) or aggression +100500 Chinese divisions? laughing

    Probably, so far the damage is only moral - the growing lag of Russia in development from China (and the levels of the RFP, which is important, too), people who still compelled the USSR in its best years are not happy

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    This "moral damage" from the "growing lag of Russia in development from China (and the level of the RFP, which is important, too), people who still compelled the USSR in its best years, are not happy," caused by the Chinese?
  39. WayKheThuo 10 August 2019 22: 39 New
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    Frankly, I didn’t like the article — some kind of superficial one. In addition, it feels that the author associates himself with one of the three
    global projects
    namely -
    American way, with the idea of ​​democracy and freedom
    , which naturally strongly affects the text - objectivity will not be enough.
    I would like to make a few comments, possibly just as far from objectivity:
    1. First, the very path of "democracy and freedom" is by no means an American, but rather a Western one.
    2. Secondly, the Western way is not for "democracy and freedom", but for the real rise of the real dough on a global scale. They talk about it a lot, write, and even make films, probably (I myself have not seen it).
    3. Thirdly, replace the article in China, the United States (the European Union or Russia) you will get the same attitude towards nature and the surrounding countries.
    Uh ... So what is the article about? That China has a lot of skeletons in the closet? So then this is a state with more than a thousand-year history, so that they are available. The fact that China is a rigidly totalitarian state? Yes it is. Only now they make such goods in such quantities that we have never dreamed of - the development of private entrepreneurship is simply prohibitive, despite totalitarianism. The fact that our media do not very much exaggerate the issues of conflicts between the Russian Federation (USSR) and China, in the military and ideological spheres, but what kind of need? So our government is ready to invite half of Europe on May 9th. More recently, they fought with them - from Germans, to Bulgarians with Romanians, and now they are ready to invite to our holiday. Normal policy. Does it bother you, author? Or are they such good, right countries, and they can be forgiven a lot, but China, for their internal disassemblies and skirmishes at Domansky # will be unforgettable, ma?
    But the main thing that I did not like in the article was, by default, accepted slavishly-intellectual zeal to join any world project. Chinese, European, American ... Bangladeshi. To whatever, just to not strain your brains yourself.
    The main thing is not to be on the side of the "bad guys" (even the term is stamping from cheap militants). That is, in simple terms, correctly answer the question: "And am I to that?"
    And is this the way for Russia? Join a project? And is this considered as a real scenario for my country? Do not develop ourselves by asking some new vector of development that is interesting to the world, but "fall on the tail" in time?
    Perhaps this is common sense, but only the tail, it’s right at the very site, sorry, there is a schedron. And it doesn’t matter at all whose tail it is - a dragon or a lion’s - you’ll have to sniff completely.
    I don’t want to
  40. NordUral 10 August 2019 22: 56 New
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    I agree on everything! Only “our” authorities and official thieves lack the intelligence to understand what they are doing with the country.
  41. Svidetel 45 11 August 2019 00: 43 New
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    Everything is clear with the author, the article is custom-made, customers are our “partners”, concerned about the cooperation and rapprochement between China and Russia. Yes, China needs our resources and pursues its interests in cooperation with us, and no one will care about Russia’s interests in cooperation with China, so everything depends on us. Yes, China, probably, will not be our friend or faithful ally, most likely just a fellow traveler, but at the moment it is not an outspoken enemy, which the West has always been and has been for many centuries, with its merciless, cold-rational egoism. What the West has demonstrated in relation to Russia in the 90s and is demonstrating today only once again confirms this - anger, hatred and fear when Russia is strong, and anger, hatred and DISCRIMINATION when weak. Prince Alexander understood this when he chose the lesser of two evils.
    1. Vladimir1155 11 August 2019 14: 50 New
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      Quote: Svidetel 45
      Everything is clear with the author, the article is custom-made, customers are our “partners”, concerned about the cooperation and rapprochement between China and Russia. Yes, China needs our resources and pursues its interests in cooperation with us, and no one will care about Russia’s interests in cooperation with China, so everything depends on us. Yes, China, probably, will not be our friend or faithful ally, most likely just a fellow traveler, but at the moment it is not an outspoken enemy, which the West has always been and has been for many centuries, with its merciless, cold-rational egoism. What the West has demonstrated in relation to Russia in the 90s and is demonstrating today only once again confirms this - anger, hatred and fear when Russia is strong, and anger, hatred and DISCRIMINATION when weak. Prince Alexander understood this when he chose the lesser of two evils.

      sorry I can not immediately put a hundred pluses, to the point, everything is so
    2. Ronald Reagan 11 August 2019 15: 11 New
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      concerned about the cooperation and rapprochement between China and Russia

      The cooperation of Russia with China is similar to the friendship of a sheep with a wolf, and the latter obviously does not eat grass. Russia has very big problems: population decline, low labor discipline and responsibility of the population, left-wing ideology will affect young people, endless problems with the economy, the decline of science and production, even the cultural perspective is completely American (left-wing, liberal, or call it what you want). What will happen to such a country in 100-150 years? What will prevent China from taking control of the situation?
  42. pylon101 11 August 2019 05: 53 New
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    The author raised an important topic, it seems to me.
    Although the discussion of what is the “wrong side of history” is still a broader topic.
    It would also be helpful to accompany the text with some statistics.
    For example, that per capita income in China in terms of purchasing power (GDP PPP) is $ 16,500. And in Russia more
    $ 25,000.
    The GINI coefficient, reflecting the uneven distribution of income, is 47 points in China, along with almost Brazil.
    Although in Russia it is also disappointing, about 43.
    However, these are all the details.
    The author’s conclusion about aggressive ethnonationalism is correct.
    But the question arises: is this the right and wrong side of the story?
  43. armata_armata 11 August 2019 06: 11 New
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    Well, yes, we should admire our oligarchy, and not look at a country that could laughing
    ps another article from urochka
  44. Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel USSR Air Force in stock
    It is not necessary to admire indiscriminately, and not to utterly indoctrinate everything, but to objectively take into account one’s and others ’successes and failures for one’s own goals, to learn from the achievements and mistakes of not only one’s, but also those of others.

    Unfortunately, quite often I came across the fact that people are only ready to admire the successes of others, but if we start talking about the failures of others, they immediately begin to be indignant and defend their idols with all their might.

    People are prone to extremes: black or white, and the world is colorful. For example, you rarely see a balanced position on this site. Many do not need arguments and facts; they think in a stereotyped manner that they are not inclined to verify information and get to the bottom of it.
    The article is one-sided. Many commentators did not travel outside the regions and the country. They have nothing to compare with except from the media of any kind.
  45. Quote: Tatiana
    A nation that has put on the wrong geopolitical power eventually will be forced to pay for his choice. She gives the winners wealth, territory and people: promising scientists, specialists, as well as just young women. In addition, such a country agrees to other conditions of the winners, whose goal is the same - to deprive the vanquished of prospects in the foreseeable future.

    How is it said correctly !!!
    Only it does not reach our government officials. They have the psychology of temporary workers who have seized power.

    ***
    Or lords, or vassals, or slaves.
    Russia has no one to bet on. It is necessary to build appropriate relations.
    But do not hope for anyone, do not look back upholding your interests.
    A nation that is not itself a geopolitical force is doomed to make a choice between superpowers.
    You can sit on the fence with your legs dangling on two sides, but you can be crushed by a fence. when it collapses to either side.
    Bismarck: "Big states always behave like bandits, and small ones behave like" women of easy virtue "*, trying to appease large ones."
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    * in the original another word.
  46. Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Clever man
    Question to the author, he was in China? And I was, therefore, I admire

    To be does not mean to feel and understand the processes in the country.

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    And not to be, the more so, "does not mean to feel and understand the processes in the country".
    "Boris Pasternak writing the novel Doctor Zhivago. I didn’t read it, but I don’t read it. I don’t have to believe the editorial board of the New World magazine, which is a novel of mischief ...".Petro Punch, The Villazka Voroga" (No. 85), October 1958, "Literary Newspaper."
    In order to evaluate something, the phenomenon would not hinder to study this phenomenon not only from someone’s retelling.
    People who have returned from other countries that have no such historical, cultural, educational, geographical, economic opportunities often speak. that "for the Power is a shame" ...
    Do not know why?
    No need to admire, no need to groan. One must be objective both to others and to oneself.
  47. Cocaine 11 August 2019 12: 09 New
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    China is a product of the USSR, in particular Stalin! And the Chinese understand this very well ..
    Socialist economy + private artels, cooperatives, etc. Here is a breakthrough in their Chinese economy.!
    They had whole institutes that were analytical in the planned economy of the USSR .. They took all the best!
  48. Region-25.rus 11 August 2019 13: 03 New
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    Quote: Clever man
    Question to the author, he was in China? And I was, therefore, I admire

    I've been there too. and not a tourist - 4 repairs for more than a month each were defended in different cities (Shanghai - 2 times, Tianjin also twice), and how many calls to different ports and weights can not be counted. And I didn’t look with my mouth open at the skyscrapers (and there are far from only skyscrapers), I looked at people, at everyday life, and so on ... well, I'm curious by nature.
  49. LeftPers 11 August 2019 13: 10 New
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    As long as pin-dos-ya is alive, China and I are on the way, and there we will see.
  50. Operator 11 August 2019 13: 15 New
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    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
    It is known than