Turkey and US negotiate after Ankara claims new Syria operation

The head of the Turkish Foreign Ministry held talks with representatives of the American side in Ankara. According to Mevlut Cavusoglu, Turkey’s accusations that it is increasingly turning away from the West are baseless. Accusations of this kind fell on Ankara during operations against the Kurds in southeastern Turkey.

Cavusoglu:

Turkey has never sought to evade discussion of any issues, including the most acute.

One of these issues during the Turkish-American negotiations was the situation in Syria. Cavusoglu noted that negotiations with the United States are a good start for deeper contacts on the work of security zones in the SAR.

A few days earlier, the Turkish command announced the preparation of a military operation on the eastern bank of the Euphrates in Syria. Ankara said they could not afford to do nothing when "the militants are preparing for an attack along the Turkish border."

Turkish militants mean armed Kurdish units, including the YPG, by militants. Many of the Kurdish militias are supported by the United States. And as soon as the Turkish authorities spoke about the imminent start of a new operation in Syria, the American side immediately declared the need for negotiations. The situation is also aggravated by the fact that the territories of Syria east of the Euphrates are perceived by the United States as their zone of influence.

The specific results of the negotiations, during which the fate of the Kurdish formations were actually decided, between the Turks and the Americans in Ankara have not yet been reported.

Comments

[Dietmar]

We, says, have accepted your green president, ukroreih, we listened to him. Now it's your turn, do not get into our disassembly with the Kurds.

[demo]

Or maybe Moscow should give hope to the Kurds for a more worthy place in the sun?
To do this, just pinch the feathers of the American rooster and beat off the horns of the Turkish ram.
And then the sultan will not curtsy in the parties of Ukraine and Crimea?
And then it’s completely insolent.

[Terenin]

Quote: demo

Or maybe Moscow should give hope to the Kurds for a more worthy place in the sun?
To do this, just pinch the feathers of the American rooster and beat off the horns of the Turkish ram.
And then the sultan will not curtsy in the parties of Ukraine and Crimea?
And then it’s completely insolent.

As my neighbor in the garage will say, "golden words!"

[Sky strike fighter]

Relations between Russia and Turkey go in a circle, recalling in essence the changing seasons (spring, summer, autumn, winter).

[kjhg]

Quote: demo

And then the sultan will not curtsy in the parties of Ukraine and Crimea?
And then it’s completely insolent.

How many wolves do not feed, but he will still look into the forest (popular wisdom) Therefore, your suggestion is correct.

[Fayter2017]

The result was the creation of a joint US-Turkish headquarters to coordinate actions in Syria. The Turks will never jump off the amer's hook, they have a genetic fear of Russia, so the Turks can only temporarily be "friends".

[Sky strike fighter]

The result was the creation of a joint US-Turkish headquarters for coordination in Syria.

Who paired whom? Or is it a military draw? The Americans interfere in this headquarters to smash the Kurds, and the Turks prevent the Americans from defending the Kurds from the PKK hostile to Ankara, who are "wrong" from their point of view. And most importantly, both are in spite of Assad. Or how will this joint headquarters work?

[Nycomed]

Yes, nothing to do with America, the country (Syria), artificially created education. The British and French divided this territory according to the results of WWI. They had a mandate for this territory. And the Turks had "phantom pains" in the Ottoman Empire. That's all.

[Sky strike fighter]

country (Syria), artificially created education.

You must understand that this can be said about absolutely any country. Countries are not born, but are created by people, that is, artificially. The same can be said about Turkey about Iran and about Israel and about the United States, China. Or do you know the "natural" countries?

[Candidate of Military Sciences]

So the prostitution that I wrote about three years ago began. There will be only one topic of negotiations - fools do not need money, and Syrians need land and oil ... And they will proclaim something like the following - so, let us American brothers, stay here ... forever! ..
I think our base in Syria will soon turn into a shooting gallery with targets for anyone hitting. And after 7 years they will even tell us at all - what are you doing here? ..

[dolfi1]

Kurds are sorry when the USSR supported them. Perhaps Russia, too, should have helped the Kurds with autonomy and tamed Assad. Then Russia would have received more grateful allies than Assad. If the Americans throw them, this is your chance.

[Sky strike fighter]

Perhaps Russia, too, should have helped the Kurds with autonomy and tamed Assad.

That is, Russia, too, should have helped the Kurds and Israel behind them in the struggle for spheres of influence in the Middle East against Turkey and tamed Iran behind Assad.

. Then Russia would have received more grateful allies than Assad.

Allies represented by Israel, more noble than Iran.

If the Americans throw them, this is your chance.

If the Americans throw Israel, then our chance to help to realize these plans instead of the USA.
Did I understand you correctly? If something is wrong, correct it.

[dolfi1]

If the Americans throw Israel, this is Israel’s problem. But in Syria, your allies (Iran and Turkey) are gradually crushing Syria under themselves. The Turks gnaw through the territories piece by piece, or do you think they will smash the Kurds and leave themselves? Iran is buying up land and pulling Assad, I do not know if information about clashes between pro-Iranian groups and the Russian contingent reaches you. This was stated by Deputy Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergey Ryabkov: "Iran is not an ally of Russia in Syria." Why is such a statement? Think from scratch? I generally am silent about the Turks, if they go to the Kurds, not to see Assad half of Syria. They will do either in Cyprus, or in Idlib. I wonder what your leadership will decide in such a situation? Without infantry, you will not see Syria, Assad Alivites are weak, Iranians pour water on their mill, like the Turks.
There are 3 options left:
Leave Syria (then it will end) and this option suits only the Turks and Iranians.
Sending Russian guys to fight with barmoley is a very bad option.
Connect the Kurds (of which by the way about 40 million), but they want a minimum - autonomy.
Maybe you have another option?

[Oquzyurd]

Option: do not intervene, the rest will clear the situation. Syrian chemistry has too many catalysts. Russia, Turkey, Iran and Assad are interested in the integrity of Syria. And before giving advice, I would remember the Golan ...

[dolfi1]

"Option: you do not interfere" - Israel will consider, only if the Iranians and Hezbollah leave, which is not realistic. Actually, all this is at our borders.
Russia also came to Syria to "prevent the return of its militants that had flown away to ISIS (banned in Russia)." Are you seriously suggesting that we not interfere? It's not even in your interests, which you Oquzyurd apparently have little idea, as well as what is happening in Syria.
Do not move the arrows to the Golan, you do not know anything about it. We do not poke you Crimea every time, naobort. Israel did not condemn Russia over Crimea, although they pressed and threatened us. And my opinion in the Crimea was not taken in vain from Kherson to Odessa. But this has nothing to do with this issue.

[Oquzyurd]

"The Turks gnaw off the territory piece by piece," (in general, I answered you for this phrase that I did not see the logs in my own eye ... "We do not poke" Slander is worse than poke) There are no statements even in the slightest hinting that they they want to appropriate these territories. Everything is exactly the opposite, that the Turks are very much interested in a united and integral Syria (the reason everyone knows why they are so interested). Are you interested in a united Syria?

[dolfi1]

Clear. You are not aware of the realities of BV and are far from understanding the local mentality. - "The Turks are very much interested in a united and whole Syria" - it's not even funny.
According to Syria, silence on our border and the absence of Iranians and Hezbollah nearby are important to us. I do not think that the collapse of Syria is in our interests.

[no better place for]

Jewish star. These territories are under the Kurds and the United States. The Turks would be glad if Assad with the Russians took them for themselves. But this will not happen. Therefore, we have to do it ourselves. But there are no fools ready to conquer from the ovs and Kurds and then give the asad

[Oquzyurd]

"These territories are under the Kurds and the United States. The Turks would be happy if the Assad and the Russians took them for themselves. But this will not happen. Therefore, we have to do it ourselves." That's right. If the Turks do not enter the east of the Euphrates in the near future, then the United States and its ally dolfi1 (Dolfina) will create a Kurdish helper state there. He also says that "the collapse of Syria is not in our interests." Syria has different weapons received from the same United States, under the pretext of fighting other terrorists. Let's say that we and others understood and took it for granted. And where to write about 50 Kurdish pilots studying in Israel (military analysts said on TV). Kurds do not have aviation (yet), so the question arises, for which country are they being trained? Most likely for the newly-formed "Kurdish state" in northern Syria ... under the strict leadership of the United States, Israel and sponsorship of Saudi Arabia.

[rocket757]

The Sultan rules! And everything is in its direction.
Everything would be logical, if it were not so difficult ....
Let's see how he will taxi, turn in one direction, it is always a vicious circle!

[raki-uzo]

Obviously, the Kurdish terrorists were lucky, here Turkey lost in the negotiations. I don’t know what the USA offered in return, but after loud statements such a big "step back" - I did not expect. So far, Turkey will do nothing to create a "peace corridor"; instead, together with the United States at an unknown time, we are creating a "common operations center". It is not clear what this center will do, who will be in charge there; when it will create this center of the corridor of the world is also not clear.