Riots in Hong Kong. Will China use the army and what will the West do

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In Hong Kong, riots continue. Even the PRC authorities admit that the enclave is experiencing the greatest problems after 22 was incorporated into China a year ago.





Thousands of Hong Kong people take to the streets


Tensions in Hong Kong have persisted for several months, almost from the beginning of the 2019 year. But in the last 60 days, the situation has grown beyond imaginable limits: despite the fact that impressive police forces have been taken to the streets of the city, and the number of detainees has long gone into the hundreds, mass unrest does not stop. Zhang Xiaoming, Head of the Office of the State Council of the People’s Republic of China for Hong Kong and Macau, said that Hong Kong is experiencing the worst crisis since it was transferred to the People’s Republic of China.

The other day, about 14 thousand people held the largest general strike in 50 years. The Hong Kong subway stopped its work, the main streets and bridges were closed. Airlines canceled over 200 aviation flights. The massive protests launched by radical youth were joined by the Hong Kong Confederation of Trade Unions, which has 200 members.

The strike and mass demonstrations are attended not only by students and activists of public movements, but also by government officials and employees of urban infrastructure, who specially took one-day vacations to participate in mass protests. Joined the performances and employees of the Hong Kong airport, which is one of the busiest in the world. Moreover, so that there are no questions from the management, the strikers do not go to work on legal grounds - they take sick leave and leave at their own expense.



On August 5, police arrested an 82 rioter, but the measure did not impress the rest of the protesters. They were not stopped by the fact that more than 40 people had already appeared in court and they were facing up to 10 years in prison for participating in mass riots.

Hong Kong Administrative Secretary Carrie Lam states that the situation in the city not only threatens the security of citizens, but undermines the very foundations of the sovereignty of China over Hong Kong. This has already been understood in Beijing, since they started talking seriously about the prospect of the transfer of units of the People’s Liberation Army of China to Hong Kong to suppress riots. After all, the Hong Kong police can’t cope with the protesters, or maybe they don’t want to cope, given that the police themselves are residents of the city, that is, relatives, acquaintances, neighbors of the protesters.

It is symbolic that protesters tore off the Chinese flag from one of the flagpoles, and then drowned it in the Gulf of Hong Kong under the enthusiastic rumble of a crowd of protesters. Now, for information about who did this, a fee of 1 million Hong Kong dollars (more than 8 million rubles) has already been offered.

Why is Hong Kong raging?


As you know, back in 1842, Hong Kong was captured by Great Britain. But most of the city’s territory, part of Hong Kong, London in the 1898 year was leased from the Chinese Empire for a period of 99 years. Despite the many political transformations that China underwent in the twentieth century, having traveled from the Manchu Empire of Qing to the People's Republic of China, the UK never refused to fulfill its obligations to the country and 99 years after the conclusion of the lease to transfer Hong Kong to China. This ultimately happened.

In 1997, Hong Kong ceased to be a British colony and became part of the PRC. One of the conditions for entry was following the principle of "One country, two systems." He suggested that Hong Kong, having become part of China, would retain complete autonomy in domestic matters, including its own judicial system. This is not surprising, given that Hong Kongs have lived in British jurisdiction for generations. The excessive severity of Chinese laws to most of the city’s residents would not have been to their liking, since historically they were used to living in freer conditions, with a different legal system.



However, then it became known about the preparation of the law on extradition. According to this law, Hong Kong criminals could be extradited to mainland China to serve their sentences in Chinese prisons. This decision caused widespread discontent among city residents who had heard about the harsh conditions in prisons in China.

But do not think that most Hong Kongers considered themselves potential criminals. They simply perceived the extradition law as an attack on the autonomy of the city, on its legal system, until recently, practically independent of the legal system of mainland China, on the very principle of "One country, two systems."

Rallies and demonstrations began, which gradually grew into riots. The Hong Kong people stormed the city parliament building, built barricades, fought with the police. On 21 of July, 430 of thousands of people took to the streets of the city, the building of the central office of the Chinese government was attacked - the demonstrators threw eggs at him, painted a sign on the facade of the building.

In the end, the city leadership was forced to announce the abolition of amendments to the law on extradition. But then the protesters had new slogans - now the citizens who took to the streets demanded the resignation of Hong Kong administrative secretary Carrie Lam, the holding of new elections, the organization of an investigation into the actions of the police during the dispersal of mass protests.

Hand of the west


In Beijing, a connection is being made between the riots in Hong Kong and the hostile policies of the Western powers towards China. The fact is that Britain was the first to be worried about the situation in the city. On the one hand, London’s attention to Hong Kong is understandable - for a century and a half the city was under British control and still feel some responsibility for its fate in the UK.



But China warned the British against interference in its internal affairs and advised them to deal with their own problems. Moreover, there is another side to the riots in Hong Kong - many protesters pointedly raise British flags. Such a flag was also attached to the wall of the regional parliament seized by the demonstrators. That is, the Hong Kong people participating in the protests emphasize that under British rule they were better than now under Chinese rule. The demonstrative stripping of Chinese flags speaks volumes. Some protesters come out with posters on which anti-Chinese slogans are written.

However, this alignment can already be directly described as a threat to the territorial integrity of China and its sovereignty over Hong Kong. Therefore, in Beijing they say that the British intelligence services acting through public organizations controlled by them may be involved in the organization of the riots.



That is, the West uses the technology of the "Orange Revolution" (or, by analogy with Ukraine, the "Maidan") to achieve its goals - to weaken China, focus its attention on internal problems, and at the same time demonstrate to the whole world that China is not all calm that the inhabitants of the richest city in the country are unhappy with Chinese government and want to fall under British government again.

You can also pay attention to the significant similarity between the actions of protesters in Hong Kong and the events on Independence Square in the fall of 2013 - in the winter of 2014. It is interesting that the Hong Kong demonstrators themselves do not hide their interest in Euromaidan. At least they are watching the video frames of those events. And, as activists say in an interview with the Western press, they admire the “Dignity Revolution” in Ukraine.

But, it should be noted that the Hong Kongs have stepped immeasurably further than the Ukrainians, primarily in the use of modern technology for riots. For example, during the 21 rally in July, interference with the operation of police face recognition cameras was created, for which special lasers were used.

What is going to do Beijing


The situation in Hong Kong is increasingly annoying the Chinese leadership. Apparently, in the very near future, China may send parts of the PLA to the city, which will suppress speeches much harder than the police. The representative of the Ministry of Defense of China, Wu Qian, said that the People’s Liberation Army of China is ready to suppress riots in Hong Kong. In addition, the Chinese authorities published a video showing how soldiers train to suppress riots.

There is no doubt that the army will operate in Hong Kong with maximum rigidity. Will the events that took place thirty years ago on Tiananmen Square be repeated in this enclave? At least, if the central leadership gives a command to use firearms against protesters weaponsthen the soldiers will fulfill it - there is no doubt about it.



From the use of force, Beijing is only stopped by its reluctance to spoil relations with the West, the "world community." Great Britain will inevitably stand up for the former colony; US President Donald Trump, who will introduce regular duties and sanctions, can take advantage of the situation. By the way, it is the United States, as China’s main adversary, that is most interested in rocking the situation in Hong Kong. In this case, Britain appears as a symbol of the "good old Hong Kong - Hong Kong", but the jackpot in any case destabilizes the US in any case.

It is the economic interests of the United States that are behind the swaying situation in Hong Kong. Human rights are just an external reason for enabling one to argue one's interest in the internal affairs of a sovereign state. But China is not Iraq, not Libya, not Syria. Therefore, if the United States and Great Britain can somehow express their indignation with the actions of Beijing, then only through the introduction of some kind of economic measures against the Celestial Empire.

So far, such a development of events is unprofitable for China, and there is still some hope that the protests can be minimized without the intervention of the armed forces. Moreover, the West is constantly discussing the topic of China's use of violence against the Uyghur population in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of China (XUAR, East Turkestan).

But it is difficult to use only one Xinjiang for accusations against China, especially since the world has already formed a rather negative attitude towards the radicals opposing the PRC in Xinjiang - both in Afghanistan and Syria, they have been noted fighting on the side of terrorist groups. The conflict in Xinjiang is implicated in the civilizational confrontation between Muslim Uighurs and Chinese. Another thing is prosperous Hong Kong with its citizens who share many of the familiar values ​​of the Western world.

In any case, there is no doubt that the mass unrest in Hong Kong is now most beneficial to the West. As for Beijing’s position, it’s very interesting how long the Chinese authorities will be able to maintain composure. If the unrest does not come to naught in the near future, sooner or later the PRC leadership will still have to resort to the capabilities of the People's Liberation Army of China.
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  1. +6
    9 August 2019 03: 50
    All the leaders of this turmoil studied, as it is not surprising in the United States))))). Similarly, in one way or another, leaders of other orange revolutions in the Middle East and Ukraine are connected with the United States. It all comes down to blood and murder, which is exactly what they need. China needs to hold the second Tien Anmen, and the leaders of foreign agents to arrest and shoot.
    1. +9
      9 August 2019 05: 16
      Both sides are somehow not nice to me at the same time, the provocateurs are the Chinese, who decided to unilaterally change the rules of the game, I mean the departure from the principle of one country two systems. And the opposition, supported by the West, taking advantage of the discontent of the people of Hong Kong and their stupidity, decided by the hands of those displeased to create as many problems as possible for China. As a result, everyone will lose, with the exception of the West. China will get sanctions, Hong Kong residents will have bullets, and the west will sit on the side and rub its sweaty palms.
      1. +10
        9 August 2019 05: 24
        and what is their choice? there the local elite became too smart. if you follow, then China began to squeeze everything after the umbrellas. then it became clear that it was necessary to finish all these games with two systems and restore order. otherwise it will become much worse.
        1. +12
          9 August 2019 05: 53
          Troops in Hong Kong will be unambiguously introduced! But this is not enough.
          The situation in Hong Kong is much more complicated than it was with the crackdown on opposition in Tiananmen Square.
          For a successful operation to bring in troops, first of all, the protest movement itself must be tactically "decapitated". its leaders, not just troops entered.
          In other words, a huge reconnaissance must be carried out. work on the part of the intelligence agencies of the PRC special services for the preliminary secret identification and location of all activists, organizers and leaders of the protest actions of the population in Hong Kong - i.e. all so-called "agents of influence" on the subject of their simultaneous arrest and liquidation.
          1. +5
            9 August 2019 09: 41
            they will find them, do not worry, there is total Internet control and wiretapping of mobile communications
          2. +4
            9 August 2019 09: 55
            Such mass performances should be organized with big money. Any revolutionaries become miserable renegades without money. To identify the financial flows of these disorders and stop them in such a way that sources abroad want to engage in their activities - this is the mission of intelligence.
            1. -1
              9 August 2019 12: 40
              the cost of the riots is small - while in Hong Kong the riots are mainly layers that are not very attached to static life - students and so on. China was very mistaken in the belief that control would be enough without adequate campaigning and other mitigating measures. In addition, excesses are everywhere.
              It is only worth remembering that such a scale of unrest is most definitely provoked by the special services.
              1. +1
                9 August 2019 14: 56
                So I about it, Sergey! If in order to bring the mass to a one-time share, agitation and enthusiasm, promoted by a few paid agitators, is enough, then to keep the crowd on the street - you need money: living conditions, curators, classes, entertainment. After all, it will become boring or uncontrollably - they will disperse. And the professionals.
          3. +2
            9 August 2019 20: 37
            Quote: Tatiana
            In other words, a huge reconnaissance must be carried out. work on the part of the intelligence agencies of the PRC special services for the preliminary secret identification and location of all activists, organizers and leaders of the protest actions of the population in Hong Kong - i.e. all so-called "agents of influence" on the subject of their simultaneous arrest and liquidation.

            China has good experience in restoring loyalty - re-education camps ... and deportation. The authorities of the Celestial Empire could have carried out a complete (namely complete) deportation of the population of Hong Kong to mainland China and settlements in their place of Chinese from other provinces. The actual criminals - active and active participants in the rebellion, are brought to justice, and they are harsh ... and the bill for spent cartridges to the relatives of the rebels.
            And everything will calm down.
            There will certainly be noise in the West, for which it has started, but everything will pass.
            Sanctions?
            Probably they will, but they will be so, once a decision has been made. China itself made its choice and will be able to answer.

            It would be nice to act tougher and more decisively in Russia too, I’m here the Chinese idea with a count for cartridges relatives like, a good idea, right ... But these are just dreams of sovereignty ...
            1. +3
              11 August 2019 02: 53
              Quote: bayard
              China has good experience in restoring loyalty - re-education camps ... and deportation. The authorities of the Celestial Empire could carry out a complete (namely complete) deportation of the population of Hong Kong to mainland China and settlements in their place of Chinese from other provinces

              The Chinese need to resolve this crisis peacefully. The problem is not far-fetched. Now in China, for example, a professor prefers to simply work to teach students than to be elected mayor of a million-plus city. And he is resisting the efforts of the CPC party organizers to nominate him as a candidate for elections. The Communist leader, under the close supervision of the authorities and not always the Chinese authorities, acts fairly. The CCP will be able to increase the prestige and salary of the Communist leader and his protection from repression without provoking an increase in corruption, the problem will resolve. As in Russia, a couple of tens of thousands of dissident losers will rage on the streets and cry in Uncle Sam’s vest and ask for help from Muslim terrorists and Petliura militants. But if honest people don’t go to work in power, and instead swindlers and mediocrity like Kravchuk, Yeltsin and Zubov crawl through, then it will cost China hundreds of millions of dead.
              1. +3
                11 August 2019 13: 10
                I don’t care for China and don’t worry too much about it, just as they didn’t worry about us and 2014 in China either - these are their problems and they should solve them.
                The more problems in the Middle Kingdom from external pressure from the United States and internal unrest from the intrigues of the same USA and England, the more China is interested in Russia. For too long, Russia has stood alone with the Western community, allowing China to become more and more rich and distracting attention to itself. Now is the time for China to experience the blows and respond to them, and Russia to receive its bonuses for its "golden share".
            2. 0
              11 August 2019 19: 15
              And what will China have as a result of this deportation?
              1. +1
                12 August 2019 02: 07
                The solution to one problem, the acquisition of new sanctions from the United States and considerable budget expenditures.
                Quote: bayard
                I don’t care for China and don’t worry too much about it, just as they didn’t worry about us and 2014 in China either - these are their problems and they should solve them.
                The more problems in the Celestial Empire from external pressure from the United States and internal uneasiness from the intrigues of the same USA and England, the more China is interested in Russia. For too long, Russia has stood alone with the Western community, allowing China to become more and more rich and distracting attention to itself. Now is the time for China to experience blows and respond to them, and Russia to receive its bonuses for its "golden share"

                wink
      2. +13
        9 August 2019 09: 56
        The more the Chinese are put in an uncomfortable position, the better for us ... they will be more accommodating. So let Hong Kong make noise, let the PLA come into contact with the strikers ... Russia has only pluses, at least the West will be a little distracted from us ..
        No matter how much I worry about China, Hong Kong, Great Britain, the USA - let them ramp up ... I got popcorn And that would be more expression !!! And then, the voices of protesters and indignants sound faint ... the police do not beat with clubs ... while there is a faint idea ... where is the fire of the Maidan? All the same, the Slavs can make much more tararam there ... so they can smash the state into chips ... and more than once .. The rest of the world is liquid, in this matter ....
      3. 0
        9 August 2019 11: 21
        I completely agree with you
      4. +5
        9 August 2019 11: 27
        Quote: bystander
        Both sides somehow are not nice to me at the same time, the provocateurs are the Chinese,

        The Hong Kong government proposed this law back in February this year. The formal reason was the killing of a 20-year-old resident of Hong Kong during her trip to Taiwan. Suspect in the case is her friend, also from Hong Kong. However, the Hong Kong authorities, for formal reasons, could not bring charges. Taiwan requested the extradition of the suspect, but Hong Kong has no existing extradition procedures to Taiwan. Here is the Hong Kong government and proposed to adopt such a law so that it would be possible to extradite suspects of serious crimes to other parts of China.

        And the extradition of a murderer to stand trial for murder is a provocation?
        1. 0
          9 August 2019 13: 20
          "It became known about the preparation of an extradition law. Under this law, Hong Kongers who have committed crimes could be extradited to mainland China for further serving their sentences in Chinese prisons."
          So it is not clear from the text of the article that only those who committed a crime in another territory or, in principle, even committed a crime in Hong Kong itself, are extradited?
          1. +2
            9 August 2019 13: 43
            Everyone reads this in his own way.
            1st reading: include China (fully), Macau and Taiwan in the list of 20 countries with which there were already agreements on the extradition of suspected crime.
            Hong Kong 2nd government: so that serious suspects can be extradited to other parts of China.
            And the 2nd did not like: Hong Kong will become defenseless against the threats of interference from the Chinese legal system.
    2. +4
      9 August 2019 05: 21
      Yeah The Chinese Crimea rebelled. That is why they do not recognize Russian. winked
  2. +7
    9 August 2019 04: 05
    The Chinese are able to toughly respond to the actions of the pokokators. Tanks roll up the problem for a long time. If then they had not done this on Tiananmen, now there would have been a different China and not at all the fact that it is better.
    1. +2
      9 August 2019 10: 43
      Quote: tracer
      The Chinese are able to toughly respond to the actions of the pokokators.

      Without a doubt !
      They were not stopped by the fact that more than 40 people had already appeared in court and they were facing up to 10 years in prison for participating in mass riots.
      And in Russia, everything is fussing with troublemakers.
      1. -2
        9 August 2019 19: 47
        I will not even say what would threaten such in the states. There is freedom "only to walk naked", but the slightest criticism of the political course is punished severely. Any mass media will simply be torn to shreds for this.
        1. -1
          10 August 2019 10: 11
          I will not even say what would threaten such in the states. There is freedom "only to walk naked", but the slightest criticism of the political course is punished severely. Any mass media will simply be torn to shreds for this.


          Shaw seriously? At your leisure, look at the speech of a Muslim senator who justified the September 11 saying that the United States is to blame. And nothing more calmly continues his political career.
          1. +1
            10 August 2019 23: 35
            Quote: Choi

            Sho seriously

            And at your leisure, enjoy overclocking footage. Occupy .., this is how the Chinese need to act.
  3. +2
    9 August 2019 04: 20
    you can immediately see whose snout sticks out behind these rallies!
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 18: 29
      Everything is the same as ours.
  4. +3
    9 August 2019 04: 37
    worried uk
    Well, how without Anglo-Saxon vileness and subversive activities can be dispensed with, especially in Hong Kong. As for the reaction of the PRC, they are not used to severely suppressing unrest and unrest. Once again, tanks will walk across Hong Kong Square and everything will immediately fall into place. The West will naturally whip, but will wash itself with its helplessness and shut up.
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 10: 47
      I agree with you. Power must be cruel, but fair.
  5. +4
    9 August 2019 05: 08
    A strange caveat - if there is a civilizational confrontation, then can you punish and kill with impunity? At one time, our generalissimo gave to Sinjan Mao. It was considered that the game was not worth the candle. Colonialism is believed to have died, but not with respect to China! China will die before letting someone go. Uyghurs do not see a way out. China is very tough, and the Chinese are extremely nationalists. The Nazi Party with their Fuhrer in front of them are just children. The world will still cry with them.
    1. +8
      9 August 2019 06: 12
      Alisher! A bit of history. Generalissimo Xinjiang did not give China, because he did not own it. Generalisimus gave Manchuria to China, and only then he gave them corn port Port Arthur.
      1. +5
        9 August 2019 07: 09
        Generalisimus gave China Manchuria,
        .... Manzhou, which existed on the territory of Manchuria from March 1, 1932 to August 19, 1945, was not created by the Japanese military administration in the territory occupied by Japan?
      2. -1
        9 August 2019 23: 48
        The Han population was absolutely predominant in Manchuria, while the Manchu minority was also largely Sinanized. In 1945, after the liquidation of Manzhou-Guo, its territory was returned to China, then still Kuomintang. Port Arthur and Stalin promised to give, so it was a matter of time. And in a significant part of Xinjiang, the influence of the USSR was truly predominant. This gave Mao reason to say in the 50-60s that Stalin turned Xinjiang into the semicolony of the USSR during this period. We have a misconception that the Chinese Communists, criticizing Khrushchev and Brezhnev, supposedly worship Stalin. This is not true. Although they respected Stalin, they criticized both under Mao and later. They just criticized him not for what Khrushchev and his followers criticized him.
    2. -5
      9 August 2019 07: 02
      while only you cry
    3. 0
      9 August 2019 23: 52
      After visiting the Russian-speaking anti-Chinese Uyghur resources, one gets the feeling that many leaders of the Uyghur separatists are extreme nationalists, on the verge of Nazism. Narrow-minded provincials fixated on the idea of ​​independence.
  6. +10
    9 August 2019 05: 28
    We do not care who supports the performance in Gongkog, the most important thing for us is to get our own political benefits from these events, let China recognize Crimea as Russian territory, and Ukrainian territory. We, too, can condemn China in the events in Hong Kong, or we can support it, we can do a lot of things, to our advantage, only this needs Putin’s political will.
    1. +4
      9 August 2019 07: 34
      the most important thing for us is to get our political benefit from these events,
      In everyday terms, it sounds rude. But in the political it is true. But the Kremlin will cave in under its partners.
    2. +1
      9 August 2019 08: 07
      GK and Crimea are not equivalent situations. Hong Kong is transferred to the PRC in accordance with international law, under certain obligations and guarantees. China sees these events as a strictly internal affair, in which no one needs to meddle.
      We squeezed the Crimea from Ukrainians, even in spite of the referendum, it was not quite according to international law, whatever one may say. But we did what needed to be done, our Crimea!
      However, China has other problematic regions, and if China recognizes Crimea, then it also recognizes that any people have the right to self-determination. As soon as this happens, the Uyghurs will also want a referendum and disconnect. China does not need this; therefore, they do not recognize Crimea.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 21: 30
        Quote: horus88
        We squeezed the Crimea from Ukrainians, even in spite of the referendum, it was not quite according to international law, whatever one may say.

        And according to what act or article of International Law, the Crimea was transferred to the Ukrainian SSR (there was no mention of Ukraine at that time)
        1. 0
          9 August 2019 23: 57
          Probably, in the same way, according to which the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was withdrawn from the RSFSR in 1940 and transformed into the union Karelian-Finnish Republic. And then in 1956 it was again transformed into the Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic and returned to the RSFSR. The transfer of territories within the USSR had nothing to do with international law.
          1. +2
            10 August 2019 09: 43
            Quote: Sergej1972
            The transfer of territories within the USSR had nothing to do with international law

            All right, this is an intra-union agreement, but not international. Since there is no union, there is no agreement either, Russian Crimea. Moreover, Ukraine did not recognize itself as the successor of the USSR, carried out decommunization and, therefore, has nothing to do with all acts, laws, etc. THE USSR.
    3. -4
      9 August 2019 19: 55
      Something tells me that China does not recognize the Russian Crimea. Because China has been designated the new industrial factory for the Anglo world. Instead of japam. Four days ago I saw an advertisement for a Chinese company in Detroit !!! This is the first time and has just appeared. Are there no analogies with the Japanese? Let me remind you that this is the Detroit automobile "heart" of America. This means that the prospect of a relationship has gone as far as few politicians are willing to admit it. And that means China will never risk such a partner. By the way, the military uniform for the American military (certain types) is also sewn in China.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 21: 43
        Quote: tracer
        Let me remind you that this is Detroit America's automotive "heart".

        Once it was Detroit center, and now it is a provincial town. The population declined from 1 850 000 in 1950 to 680 000 in 2014. Detroit’s auto industry has been hit by global competition and relocated its remaining production capacity from Detroit. Now the city has one of the highest crime rates in the United States. Significant areas of the city are abandoned. In 2017, 82% of Detroit's population are black, and in 1950, 92% were white.
        1. -4
          9 August 2019 23: 43
          That's right, but the headquarters of the largest US auto companies are there.
  7. +7
    9 August 2019 05: 34
    In the end, the city leadership was forced to announce the abolition of amendments to the law on extradition.

    In this situation, they made concessions in vain. First, it was necessary to quickly and harshly "calm down" the rioters, and then think and apply political and social measures to stabilize the situation. Nodding only to the West is stupid, there are also internal reasons causing discontent among the majority of residents. The same as in Ukraine.
    1. -1
      9 August 2019 12: 28
      First it was necessary to quickly and firmly "calm down" the rioters

      As if the rebels themselves did not calm down the government completely. The guys there are serious. Not patient. And conversations like "you need to wait a little and everything will work out"
  8. +7
    9 August 2019 06: 14
    However, then it became known about the preparation of the law on extradition. According to this law, Hong Kong criminals could be extradited to mainland China to serve their sentences in Chinese prisons. This decision caused widespread discontent among city residents who had heard about the harsh conditions in prisons in China.

    Those who commit petty crimes, on household grounds, which do not pose a threat to the social structure of the state, will not be extradited anywhere.
    Hong Kong has enough of its bullpen.
    But those who stir up water against the PRC and the CCP, they will be sent where necessary.

    That is what the residents of Hong Kong are against.
    But another thing surprises me.
    If you are not opposed to Hong Kong being part of the PRC, then why should you oppose anything.
    And if against, then it was necessary until the moment that Britain decided to return the enclave back, to speak.
    Sat on the priest exactly?
    Get it.
    Otherwise, we are only stupid and lazy aware of ourselves.
    And a groan goes in Russia that went on promises and destroyed the USSR.
    Neither are we alone. All people are inert. And stupid.

    And the analogy with the Crimea suggests itself.
    Crimea - was not an isolated territory within Ukraine.
    People went to and from there in millions.
    And the families were mixed.
    And the Russian language was dominant.
    And Hong Kong was a territory closed to the Chinese.
    Even the language of Hong Kong is more different from the language of mainland China than the East Ukrainian dialect from the Russian language.
    And the people of Hong Kong in communist China did not seek to go on an excursion.
    Quite the contrary.
    And the Hong Kong passport allows you to enter hundreds of countries without a visa, including the countries of the British Commonwealth.

    The reason for the unrest is not that they will be able to extradite, but because there is a severe punishment for subversive activities directed against the CCP.
    And what is so important to all the protesters. that they will not be able to carry out subversive activities?
    I doubt very much.
    1. +2
      9 August 2019 11: 34
      Quote: demo
      The reason for the unrest is not that they will be able to extradite, but because there is a severe punishment for subversive activities directed against the CCP.

      Hong Kong residents understand that Beijing will not stop here ... Today they will allow people to judge by the general laws of China, and tomorrow they will take away the remaining rights, and not those who agree on the same law, and condemn ...
      1. +2
        9 August 2019 14: 10
        I am not an expert in Chinese laws, and I do not know much about Hong Kong laws.
        But I think that for generally accepted (if I may say so) violations of the law, criminal punishment is provided both there and there.
        With the exception of a number of articles - the organization of a criminal community, the organization of gambling, the bribe of a civil servant, pimping and trafficking in women, murder, and the worst - the drug trade - the death penalty.
        The rest is like everywhere else.
        True, there is one small bias.
        Particularly serious crimes not included in the list may be punishable by imprisonment up to 10 years.
        True, this is not a prison, in the truest sense of the word.
        These are quarries and mines.
        Few more than 5 years survived.

        And at the same time I watched such a picture.
        Near the road is a police car. The police are not visible. Four men dig a trench.
        I ask the translator - what is this.
        She tells me that these are criminals serving their term.
        I tell her, where is the guard?
        She - why?
        I say, how will they escape?
        He told me then the quarries.

        And then she also explained.
        It turns out the criminals live at home, or rather spend the night. But to 7.00 are obliged to appear in prison.
        There is no breakfast. Only lunch.
        Working day until 18.00. No dinner. They are going to sleep home.
        He was late, did not come, left earlier - the time served by the prisoner does not count. And doubles.
        That's it.
        Is this fair or not?
        Maybe the residents of Hong Kong tried on all this and realized that they had arrived.
    2. 0
      10 August 2019 00: 03
      Why doesn’t anyone pay attention to the fact that this bill provided for the possibility of extradition to both Taiwan and another special administrative region, Aomin? And obviously not for crimes against the CCP.
  9. -2
    9 August 2019 06: 36
    Maidan in Hong Kong. And who is the organizer of the Maidan?
    1. -4
      9 August 2019 07: 03
      Well, whose striped ears stick out there?
      1. +8
        9 August 2019 07: 37
        striped ears
        ?
        1. -7
          9 August 2019 08: 01
          Tipo cut? yourself and laugh
          1. +6
            9 August 2019 08: 07
            yourself and laugh
            he laughed himself. a question the answer. However, below is the first plus of mine for the fact that first roll out, and then think. Here I agree one hundred percent.
        2. +1
          9 August 2019 08: 13
          Something wrong with your color rendering bully Must be blue, red and white. Yes, and the resolution is not enough - no stars are visible laughing
  10. 3vs
    -2
    9 August 2019 06: 48
    "If the riots do not subside in the near future, then sooner or later the leadership of the PRC will still have to resort to the capabilities of the People's Liberation Army of China."
    And it’s better to turn on your head and reflect on your behavior.
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 07: 04
      first roll into a pancake, and then think ... otherwise, it will be worse.
      1. 3vs
        -3
        9 August 2019 08: 45
        And who gave Comrade Ping the right to teach people in Hong Kong how to live ?!
        This is the same as the South Koreans say that from tomorrow they live according to the rules of North Korea ...
        1. +3
          9 August 2019 09: 03
          Quote: 3vs
          And who gave Comrade Ping the right to teach people in Hong Kong how to live ?!

          "Native" Communist Party of China and no less "native" government of China. If China believes that this is its territory, then how should a military commander of the Chinese army behave if he considers these people to be rebels
          Quote: 3vs
          This is the same as the South Koreans say that from tomorrow they live according to the rules of North Korea ...

          Not a good example. And by the way, the differences in the rules of South and North Korea, exactly as much as in following the bright ideals of "Juche" on the one hand and "Jucheseong" on the other
          1. 3vs
            -2
            9 August 2019 09: 55
            But the differences in the living standards of South and North Korea are noticeable.
            And the Hong Kongs are not eager to start living like all of China, if the upper
            they do not want to take this into account, their business, of course, for the time being.
            "If China believes that this is its territory, then how should a military commander of the Chinese army behave if he considers these people to be rebels."
            The boss must first think with his head!
            Otherwise, everything may end not as he plans.

            All the same can be projected onto our reality.
            Inventing all kinds of "municipal filters" in order to preserve their
            power, one day can play a bad joke.
            1. +1
              9 August 2019 10: 04
              Quote: 3vs
              The boss must first think with his head!

              And now he thinks WELL. If after these his words were not removed, then they are not his initiative, but are a continuation of the instructions from above. Now he is thinking how to perform them. And such a statement is one of the attempts to influence the situation bloodlessly. Who is prudent and with a head, he will understand what is at stake and will not want to become a victim of the next "Tiananmen Square"

              1. 3vs
                -2
                9 August 2019 10: 17
                Time will put everything in its place.
                "Only he is worthy of life and freedom,
                Who goes to battle for them every day! "
                ((C) Comrade I. Goethe, "Faust")
                When people accustomed to relative freedom are told - "Welcome to the concentration camp",
                someone will not agree with this.
            2. +3
              10 August 2019 01: 03
              Quote: 3vs
              But the differences in the living standards of South and North Korea are noticeable.
              And the Hong Kongs are not eager to start living like all of China, if the upper
              they do not want to take this into account, their business, of course, for the time being.
              "If China believes that this is its territory, then how should a military commander of the Chinese army behave if he considers these people to be rebels."
              The boss must first think with his head!
              Otherwise, everything may end not as he plans.

              All the same can be projected onto our reality.
              Inventing all kinds of "municipal filters" in order to preserve their
              power, one day can play a bad joke.


              Question to connoisseurs of life in South Korea:
              But how much do you like to sing the company’s anthem every morning at work, work 10 hours a day with two days off a month?
              At the same time, the boss is constantly yelling at you, insulting and throwing throw-ups and chairs?
        2. -1
          9 August 2019 11: 04
          And who gave Comrade Putin the right to teach me how to live ??
          I personally did not choose where to be born .. and did not vote for this fabulous character .. But I have to pay for gas as much as he installed .. And if I try to get cheaper, a policeman will come ..
          So are South Koreans any better than me ?? They will tell them tomorrow what are the rules of life .. and will have to live .. Otherwise, a policeman / army will come ..
        3. 0
          10 August 2019 00: 06
          Correctly tell Comrade C.)
      2. +2
        9 August 2019 09: 05
        Roll into a pancake and turn out to be aggressors, worse - BLOODY COMMUNE)) in the eyes of the whole world? And for what? Whatever happens in the Civil Code, there is no threat to mainland China. These are not events in Tiananmen, there is no risk of unrest. For this there is no reason to gesture. It’s wiser to do everything slowly, and the sheep will be intact, and the wolves are full
        1. 3vs
          0
          9 August 2019 09: 57
          I agree with a friend! Yes
        2. +1
          9 August 2019 11: 07
          worse than that - by BLOODY COMMUNIES)) in the eyes of the whole world

          And what is worse ??)
          "the whole world" has no idea about communism .. So in this case I would not be guided by his opinion ..
          1. 3vs
            0
            9 August 2019 12: 19
            I am not "guided", I completely agree with the words of my comrade - "Whatever happens in the GK, there is no threat to mainland China. These are not events in Tiananmen, there is no risk of flaring up unrest. For this there is no reason to gesture."
            Well, if Comrade Ping makes a bloody massacre in Hong Kong, I'm afraid the West will hurt him
            dignity, moreover, there are many who wish to support this ...
            Of course, no one will fight, they can strangle economically.
            Then the local population may ask obscene questions to comrade Ping,
            and whom, excuse me, comrade Piny, we suffer one and a half billion ...
            1. +1
              10 August 2019 00: 19
              Why are you with this Kin. No one calls him that. Xi, Mao, Jiang, Zhao, Hua, two friends Hu (Yaobang and Jintao)
              1. 3vs
                0
                10 August 2019 08: 41
                Good, comrade Jinping! Yes
                The main thing is that he does not rock the boat!
                1. +1
                  10 August 2019 10: 12
                  Comrade Si!) This is his last name! We never talked about comrades Vladimir, Joseph, Nikita, Leonid.)
                  1. 3vs
                    -1
                    10 August 2019 10: 38
                    Convinced, comrade C! Yes
                    The main thing is that Hong Kong does not put it on the ears!
                    And then the parcels will be delayed with aliexpress ...
  11. -2
    9 August 2019 06: 54
    In general, then cool .... fans of jumping on the Maidan, would go to dill and live some time, if possible.
    Anyway, such a small enclave without the help of a big brother cannot exist normally ... it is necessary to infuse somewhere anyway, and not just stand next to leaning against it!
    1. +3
      9 August 2019 07: 00
      Quote: rocket757
      Anyway, such a small enclave without the help of a big brother cannot exist normally ... it is necessary to infuse somewhere anyway, and not just stand next to leaning against it!

      well, they want to go back to their big british brother.
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 08: 41
        Quote: Maki Avellievich
        well, they want to go back to their big british brother

        That’s understandable, but who will give them?
        It is interesting what will happen in advance, it will come to the race-race, that it will have to be reconciled and adapted or they simply will not remain ???
        Confidence that foreign countries will help them has led many to ......
      2. +1
        9 August 2019 22: 47
        Only since a 99-year lease was signed did the big British brother surrender greatly. But the Chinese is the opposite.
    2. +3
      9 August 2019 11: 27
      Singapore is about the same and nothing lives. And comparing Hong Kong and Ukraine is at least stupid. Green is not like soft.
      1. +2
        9 August 2019 11: 35
        Quote: Oleg Zorin
        And comparing Hong Kong and Ukraine is at least stupid.

        This is exactly what the article says. For a red phrase, the fact takes place to be .... but who knows, leave it to the conscience of the author.
        Quote: Oleg Zorin
        Singapore is about the same and nothing lives.

        approximately, it doesn’t mean that it’s the same .... the situation at the moment is different, some will have to dance from that.
  12. -1
    9 August 2019 07: 11
    They, the Chinese, have to act, if the devil is given a finger, then he will snap off his whole hand. How? Well, for example, to ensure the operation of the airport, to plant your own there, you can also military dispatchers, this will provoke demonstrations of violence, after which they will send troops and use weapons.
  13. +3
    9 August 2019 07: 16
    Excuse me, Ilya, but the Uyghurs do not live in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region (XUAR), but simply in the Uygur Autonomous Region or, to call this region in Chinese, in Xinjiang (blue is new or new, jiang is the frontier or the border). XUAR in this case is a taftological abbreviation.))) Here either Xinjiang or the Uyghur Autonomous Region. And then we will soon begin to use the acronym RRF, which will mean Russia-Russian Federation.))) Wikipedia sometimes sins, alas ...
    1. 0
      10 August 2019 00: 24
      In my opinion, all the same, the Chinese call the region exactly Xinjiang Uyghur, to emphasize that this autonomy is not only Uyghur. Because there are territories where other ethnic groups prevail.
      1. 0
        10 August 2019 09: 43
        Quote: Sergej1972
        In my opinion, all the same, the Chinese call the region exactly Xinjiang Uyghur, to emphasize that this autonomy is not only Uyghur.
        There is one subtlety here that makes you think. Obviously, in order to emphasize the multinationality of the territory, it was generally not worth mentioning any of the nationalities in its name, like, for example, Dagestan (in Russian - "country of mountains"). After some reflection, I began to tend to the idea that the Chinese give their (Chinese) name only to those regions of China in which, for one reason or another, there are problems with finding them with the state to maximize the leveling of the ethnonym's impact on the national consciousness of the people of the titular nations of these regions (that's why this very Chinese name is always put in the first place). There are only three of them at the moment: Xinjiang, Ningxia and Guangxi. Xinjiang is the most problematic of them all. Here, a powerful religious (Islamic) factor is also superimposed on the Uyghur national factor (the Uyghurs make up about 45% of the total population of the autonomous region). One third of Ningxia is inhabited by Chinese-speaking Huizu (Dungans) who, like the Uighurs, profess Islam, but since They are basically all the same Chinese, separatism does not show itself especially here, but apparently, God takes care of the saved, and therefore it is better to keep it out ...))) Guangxi really looks like a black sheep in this company. This region also one third is inhabited by the kindred Thais (not to be confused with the Chinese) Zhuangs. Here I do not see any problems at all for the Beijing authorities, and therefore, for now, I raise my paws and record this moment in riddles.))) The only thing that comes to my mind when I mention Guangxi is the old Sino-Vietnamese "graters". Who knows, maybe the dog is buried right here?)))
        Quote: Sergej1972
        Because there are territories where other ethnic groups prevail.
        Well, actually, other ethnic groups living in the territory of Xinjiang - the Uyghur Autonomous Region, have quite a few of their own national-territorial entities.
        First of all, these are 5 autonomous districts for the most numerous national minorities of this autonomous region:
        - Bayangol-Mongolian Autonomous Okrug (for the Mongols)
        - Boro-Tala-Mongolian Autonomous Okrug (for the Mongols)
        - Changji Hui AO (for the Donggan or, in Chinese, Huizu)
        - Kyzylsu-Kyrgyz Autonomous Okrug (for Kyrgyz)
        - Ili-Kazakh JSC (for Kazakhs)
        For autonomous minorities in Xinjiang, 6 autonomous counties have been created.
        1. +1
          10 August 2019 10: 52
          In general, they clearly have the influence of the Soviet experience. They also created a lot of autonomies, in which even at the time of their creation, the Han people made up the majority. Naturally, this is not about all the autonomous entities of the PRC.
          1. 0
            10 August 2019 12: 23
            You're right. The PRC is very similar to both the USSR and the RSFSR at the same time. It was built, so to speak, under the influence, in the image and likeness, taking into account the local specifics. But they still have only 5 real autonomies. In addition to Xinjiang, Ningxia and Guangxi, there is Tibet, already quite now reconciled to being a part of the PRC (even the Dalai Lama in India has already finally reconciled to this) and Inner Mongolia, 80 percent populated in the present moment by the Han people. In the USSR-RSFSR, these national entities were clearly richer, which played a cruel joke at a certain stage ... But, in fairness, it should be noted that the Chinese, unlike the "Soviet comrades", never aimed at a bright world future.) )) The scale is clearly not the same. And the percentage of Han people in the total population of the country has always been very high (now they make up about 92% of the population of the PRC), so the fate of the USSR is hardly in store for China.
  14. +1
    9 August 2019 07: 31
    One country, two systems doesn't seem to work. And it won't work. Antagonists. And what a close interaction of the protesters:
    Joined the performances and employees of the Hong Kong airport, which is one of the busiest in the world. Moreover, so that there are no questions from the management, the strikers do not go to work on legal grounds - they take sick leave and leave at their own expense.
    ... Yes, no ... then, as with the consent of the leadership, they take holidays at their own expense .. And the leadership will be hidden .. they didn’t have the right not to let go ... It’s time for China to cancel two systems ... they will not get along ...
  15. +2
    9 August 2019 07: 38
    The author wrote a lot, dragged all kinds of maidans (what a habit of sculpting these maidans to any protests, they found a scarecrow and shove it everywhere), but in reality the essence of the situation is placed in a few lines - China accepted Hong Kong on certain conditions ensuring the rights of Hong Kongers.
    And now they tried to change these conditions.
    And the Hong Kong people not only achieved that this attempt failed, but now they are trying to force the one who tried to do so to leave the government, so that others would not disrespect the rights of the population to violate.
    IMHO, they need to learn their rights to defend in such a way that not only such attempts are suppressed, but officials are afraid of violating these rights under the threat of expulsion from the government, there was more sense from such authorities.
    1. 0
      9 August 2019 08: 59
      You do not sow, do not plow. You yourself appear, a hundred years in advance.
    2. +2
      9 August 2019 11: 37
      I agree that now "Maidan" is pushed everywhere, it seems that people cannot be dissatisfied with anything in principle.
      Like something like agents of the west ....
      It happens that people themselves go out.
      Maybe the problem is that the government does not respond to dissatisfaction until it takes such forms?
    3. 0
      9 August 2019 22: 53
      Quote: Avior
      And the Hong Kong people not only achieved that this attempt failed, but now they are trying to force the one who tried to do so to leave the government, so that others would not disrespect the rights of the population to violate.
      Time will tell. But I'm not as optimistic as you. And I think that the Chinese leadership has not yet said its last word.
  16. +7
    9 August 2019 07: 51
    There was a lot where in China, but Hong Kong forever sunk into the soul, a magnificent city. I plan to go there in the fall, I hope everything will calm down.
    In any case, Hong Kong cannot resist the PRC, the point is not even in the army, but that the territory of the city is small, there are many people. But fresh water and food there is not enough for everyone, all China supplies. But this is still half the trouble, in fact, the PRC is very tightly intertwined with the financial sector of the Civil Code. Hong Kong cannot exist without the PRC.
    By the way, familiar Chinese do not consider GK as a separate country, there is only one China.

    And nothing shines there, they understood this under Thatcher. Soon, the Americans will come to an understanding.
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 08: 10
      But fresh water and food there is not enough for everyone,
      Che, somehow Crimea reminded. Until the Kremlin makes Crimea completely independent of Ukraine. No, I don’t think that Crimea will be against Russia. But it’s high time to help him completely disconnect from Ukraine.
      1. +2
        9 August 2019 08: 14
        Crimea was lucky that Mother Russia was nearby, they solved the problem with the bridge, we will solve the problem with water, it’s only time.

        But Hong Kong has no one nearby, except China, so they have nowhere to go
    2. +3
      9 August 2019 08: 13
      Hong Kongers do not require disconnection from China, this is the author’s imagination.
      They demand the resignation of a specific officer
      1. +2
        9 August 2019 08: 34
        The official did not decide to pass the extradition law himself; it was clear that he was "advised" to do so by his CCP comrades. So the resignation will not really solve anything if the PRC does not change its policy regarding the Civil Code. It seems to me that this is what the strikers want.
        Again, 47 is getting closer, how China will behave after - big question
        1. -1
          9 August 2019 08: 42
          And that too. And before age 47 it is still very far
  17. 0
    9 August 2019 08: 36
    Strength test (steel balls ....) China.
  18. -2
    9 August 2019 09: 00
    Sowing chaos, "warming up" the enemy from within has already become part of the US strategy.
  19. -1
    9 August 2019 10: 11
    The same thing happens for us
  20. +1
    9 August 2019 11: 20
    That's interesting!
    Again, the West is to blame there.
    But Trump, the sly by his decree, changed the rules of extradition inside China to provoke unrest.
    Apparently something like this ..
    Although if we start from the logic of some people that the law must be obeyed in any case and the people are not worthy to judge whether the law is good or bad, then of course the West will always be to blame for everyone ...
  21. -2
    9 August 2019 11: 22
    I was in Hong Kong, a beautiful city. Very comfortable, but also very expensive. And the Hong Kongs, in my experience, are not enthusiastic about China. They are completely self-sufficient. If China wants to lose the chicken that lays the golden eggs for it, it can introduce an army. Shanghai will never become Hong Kong.
  22. +1
    9 August 2019 11: 26
    Quote: bystander
    the provocateurs are the Chinese, who decided to unilaterally change the rules of the game, I mean the departure from the principle of one country two systems.

    No need to draw such deep conclusions on the lack of information. The law on extradition in Hong Kong began to be discussed after a well-known incident in which a resident of Hong Kong brutally murdered his girlfriend in Taiwan. And suddenly it turned out that in Hong Kong there was nothing to judge him, but it was impossible to extradite him to Taiwan due to the absence of an extradition law. So there was no political background or malice in mainland China.
    There was an attempt to solve a completely understandable problem.
    1. -2
      9 August 2019 12: 33
      Fictitious pretext
      It was necessary to provide for the opportunity to try criminals in Hong Kong who could not be extradited.
    2. -1
      9 August 2019 13: 29
      Please explain,
      "One of the residents of Hong Kong killed his girlfriend quite brutally in Taiwan. And suddenly it turned out that there was nothing to prosecute in Hong Kong, but it was impossible to extradite him to Taiwan due to the absence of an extradition law."
      Something I did not understand, in the sense in Hong Kong, the law does not condemn murder if it was not committed in Hong Kong itself?
      How did you find out that there’s nothing to judge in Hong Kong !?
      1. +1
        9 August 2019 22: 02
        indeed such a precedent has taken place
  23. -1
    9 August 2019 11: 53
    As this maidanophobia got, everywhere adherents fancied Maidan. But it’s normal that people go out to defend their freedoms and don’t want to worsen life!
    On the other hand, naturally the West will use this for its own purposes, and don’t be rooting for China, we should always help the side that starts to lose, the more the parties to the conflict get stuck in it, the weaker they are, and the more they become dependent on not involved in the conflict of world players. This must be used and get your bonuses !!
  24. +2
    9 August 2019 12: 08
    Will China use the army and what will the West do.

    If the situation gets out of control and the situation worsens, of course, they will most likely use the army. And the West will live through it and swallow it. He is now afraid to oppose them.
  25. -2
    9 August 2019 13: 34
    The fact that people simply do not want to be cattle, as we already unconditionally appear as provocations of the Western special services, but the fact that the Chinese began to tighten their nuts, as it were, does not count.
  26. +3
    9 August 2019 15: 04
    Quote: Galleon
    to keep the crowd on the street - you need money: living conditions, curators, classes, entertainment.

    it’s not so difficult in Hong Kong. If hundreds of Rotozeyans are going to matches of the 4th Football League, you can imagine how much more interesting movement is collecting
    the climate there is not polar - with this, too, everything is convenient.
    but what is the alternative for the demonstrators to go home -
    it’s more fun to hang out than to sit at home
  27. +2
    9 August 2019 15: 39
    One of the conditions for entry was following the principle of "One country, two systems." He suggested that Hong Kong, having become part of China, would retain complete autonomy in domestic matters, including its own judicial system. This is not surprising, given that Hong Kongs have lived in British jurisdiction for generations. The excessive severity of Chinese laws to most of the city’s residents would not have been to their liking, since historically they were used to living in freer conditions, with a different legal system.

    Somewhere I already saw it ... oh yes - it looks like the PRC got its Grand Duchy of Finland.
  28. +2
    9 August 2019 16: 24
    What causes Hong Kong to rage ...
    Because of what, journalists have replaced us here so ... here this ... Ugh, damn it!
    In general, Hong Kong could not help but rage, and the Chinese authorities are either unreasonably self-confident or follow some kind of unnecessarily complicated plan (this is characteristic of the Chinese, a national peculiarity). When the British forcefully wrested Hong Kong from the emperor, forcing him to sign all his conditions, a certain part of the Chinese saw this as opening the doors to paradise.
    After all, Hong Kong was near China, everything was native ... and the jurisdiction was English! No extradition was foreseen under any circumstances! And the exchange was ongoing, and the British did not care about the difficulties of the Chinese empire.
    Hong Kong literally surged. Thousands of criminals rushed there. Everyone who wanted to hide from revenge rushed. Instantly opened the head offices of all secret societies, to which the Chinese are great hunters. And this tradition is very much alive!
    In Hong Kong, there are hundreds of thousands of people whom Chinese justice has never stopped hunting. Millions of descendants of such people live there. All of them, to put it mildly, do not approve of the extension of mainland jurisdiction to Hong Kong. If this happens, hell will begin in Hong Kong.
    Hey author! And what could you read on the topic? Or pay so little that it’s not worth it?
  29. +1
    9 August 2019 16: 30
    Quote: Nasr
    The more the Chinese are put in an uncomfortable position, the better for us.

    this approach is contrary to centuries-old traditions of Russia's relations with its non-hostile neighbors.
    maybe you can warm your hands on the difficulties of the Chinese, but Russia is still respected for the fact that it does not get carried away.
    Although on the other hand, robbing the whole world, the share of the looted army and respect will be higher than the roof.
    USA will not let lie.
  30. +1
    9 August 2019 17: 24
    But do not think that most Hong Kongers considered themselves potential criminals. They simply perceived the extradition law as an attack on the autonomy of the city, on its legal system, until recently, practically independent of the legal system of mainland China, on the very principle of "One country, two systems."

    Race! Extradition is an international procedure when one country extradits criminals at the request of another. So this law is dangerous only for those who conduct subversive activities from the territory of Hong Kong.
  31. +1
    9 August 2019 19: 41
    I would advise the Chinese brothers to attend to the fate of the Scots and Native Indians in America. They don’t have money ?!
  32. +1
    9 August 2019 20: 25
    Americans launched their plan in China and Russia to destabilize, despotize and destroy enemy states ... hi
  33. +2
    9 August 2019 22: 01
    a man lives there, sees a lot from the inside:


  34. -2
    9 August 2019 22: 42
    What can I say, all normal and adequate people try to stay away from the "communards". And although there is de facto capitalism in the PRC, the one-party system of government does not inspire admiration and any confidence in free people. Therefore, the richest cities, Taiwan and Hong Kong, are in a hurry to secede from them.
    But I already look forward to the indignation of the scoops and patriots who will prove that under the "rotten west" Hong Kong was worse off)
    1. +2
      10 August 2019 02: 50
      Taiwan city ?! Oh, where did you get the victims of education? Enchanting you are a damn thing.
      1. 0
        10 August 2019 03: 04
        For what? Comrade ?!
      2. 0
        10 August 2019 03: 49
        Quote: ydjin
        Taiwan city ?! Oh, where did you get the victims of education? Enchanting you are a damn thing.


        laughing hi laughing
  35. +4
    10 August 2019 00: 56
    Quote: Roman070280
    And who gave Comrade Putin the right to teach me how to live ??
    I personally did not choose where to be born .. and did not vote for this fabulous character .. But I have to pay for gas as much as he installed .. And if I try to get cheaper, a policeman will come ..
    So are South Koreans any better than me ?? They will tell them tomorrow what are the rules of life .. and will have to live .. Otherwise, a policeman / army will come ..

    In this case, you have every right to collect your little things and go there where Putin is not, for example, in Somalia or Libya, where absolute freedom reigns. And you will be there to extract oil yourself, make gas and build roads where you will go wherever you want.
    And if you use the fruits of other people's labor, then you will have to obey the rules of the society in which you live
    1. +1
      10 August 2019 02: 48
      [quote = E.S.] [quote = Roman070280] And who gave Comrade Putin the right to teach me how to live ??

      In this case, you have every right to collect your little things and go there where Putin is not, for example, in Somalia or Libya, where absolute freedom reigns. And you will be there to extract oil yourself, make gas and build roads where you will go wherever you want.
      It is possible and closer- in Ukraine, the kingdom of democracy and 95th gasoline at 75 rubles / liter.
  36. +1
    10 August 2019 02: 44
    However, below is the first plus of mine for the fact that first roll out, and then think. Here I agree one hundred percent. [/ Quote]
    I'm just happy without measure! A joke about the zebra ... not smart. Because the strips on the ears have a different color. Not all colors can be distinguished, perhaps. But this is to the doctor.
  37. +2
    10 August 2019 02: 47
    Well, I don’t understand what these laws are like? One country and two laws ?! It's time to end this Makhnovshchina, one country is one law!
    1. 0
      11 August 2019 17: 27
      The PRC leadership does not think so.
  38. 0
    10 August 2019 05: 59
    Quote: Revival
    As it turned out, there’s nothing to judge in Hong Kong!

    Very simple. He did not commit any crime in Hong Kong. What to judge?
  39. +1
    10 August 2019 10: 31
    The Chinese know their business .. Everything will be quiet and cultural.!

    The only selfie for the protocol .. wassat
  40. +1
    10 August 2019 11: 33
    The West will not do anything ... but the finances of the HONG KONG may suffer ... this is the only financial center not in the USA or Britain ... and China wants to make it an alternative financial center in all of Asia ... therefore it sticks with protesting citizens. And he hopes to clean up Taiwan in the same way ....
  41. -1
    10 August 2019 18: 08
    Quote: bayard
    Quote: Tatiana
    In other words, a huge reconnaissance must be carried out. work on the part of the intelligence agencies of the PRC special services for the preliminary secret identification and location of all activists, organizers and leaders of the protest actions of the population in Hong Kong - i.e. all so-called "agents of influence" on the subject of their simultaneous arrest and liquidation.

    China has good experience in restoring loyalty - re-education camps ... and deportation. The authorities of the Celestial Empire could have carried out a complete (namely complete) deportation of the population of Hong Kong to mainland China and settlements in their place of Chinese from other provinces. The actual criminals - active and active participants in the rebellion, are brought to justice, and they are harsh ... and the bill for spent cartridges to the relatives of the rebels.
    And everything will calm down.
    There will certainly be noise in the West, for which it has started, but everything will pass.
    Sanctions?
    Probably they will, but they will be so, once a decision has been made. China itself made its choice and will be able to answer.

    It would be nice to act tougher and more decisively in Russia too, I’m here the Chinese idea with a count for cartridges relatives like, a good idea, right ... But these are just dreams of sovereignty ...

    Sovereignty? Not a single capital country suffers from this, because capitalism is global and "rules" all the interests of corporations. Probably, this does not work with China, so they "rebel" there. And we will be so until we return socialism.
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    10 August 2019 21: 50
    And the Chinese leadership has no alternative to the use of force. Therefore, it will be applied. And this could entail consequences that could make China lose the trade war to the West. This is the only reason: in all respects, China must win the trade war. And in view of the high importance of this event in Hong Kong, they will be brought to power resolution - the City of London will try.
  43. -2
    11 August 2019 12: 50
    Something of Roman Skomorokh there are no articles)))) On a business trip, see .. Closed?
    And then he here actively called for "protests", etc. very deliberate and cunning ..
    I won’t be surprised if he starts an anti-liberal policy all of a sudden laughing hi
  44. 0
    15 August 2019 08: 35
    Will China use the army and what will the West do

    Rather so. Will the West force China to use the army or Beijing will find another option. Objectively, time is on the side of China, the protesters have already shot themselves in the leg and all that remains is to wait for gangrene. That is, capital flight, massive closure of enterprises with foreign participation, large-scale layoffs of this office plankton and an inevitable drop in living standards. After the rats run off the ship, you can forget about the principle of "one country, two systems".
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    15 August 2019 13: 58
    Yes, he won’t do anything .. So, he grunts grudgingly and withers away .. Yes, and the trump isn’t ... It’s not in his interests to quarrel with China now when he is rebuilding his economy for war

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