The end of the special project "Navalny"

The Investigative Committee initiated a case of laundering 1 billion rubles by the “Anti-Corruption Fund” by Alexei Navalny, our main “anti-corruption” and pro-American opposition. Apparently, the investigation will go to Western sources of Navalny financing on a large scale, this is serious, and this is the first time.




Look for money, not "activists"


For the first time, the investigation affected the financial sphere in the activities of FBK in order to enter the US intervention in the Russian elections? To get direct financing by the West of the protest actions of the Russian “radical opposition”? It seems that Moscow intends to mirror the accusations of Russia of interfering in the elections in the United States and the West as a whole.

"Echo" and "Rain" talk about the harsh detentions of "opposition" in protests, they do not know how in the city of Paris they detain "yellow vests". But in a certain sense, one can speak of the harshness of power, which had not existed before, in relation to the organizers and activists of the “protest”: the former indulgence towards them as pro-Western sympathizers disappears. Because the policy of Russia towards the USA and Europe is changing.

We are smart and understand that no “protest leader” just gets into the Western TV, and our protesters “screw” for the sake of the picture on this TV. Until recently, Moscow tolerated this as an unpleasant, but not dangerous activity of the Western special services for the sake of some of our "highest interests" in the international arena.

In fact, Alexey Navalny is a Western special project, he once headed our "fifth column" under the roof of grants from Western NGOs and NGOs. “Navalny” is the same special operation of the USA as “Saakashvili”, “Yushchenko”, “Guaido” and so on, ending with “Zelensky”. All of them, except the last, studied at the same advanced training courses of “young leaders” in America, and what different fates!

Navalny and his “foundation” were allowed to live while it was politically interesting to the Kremlin. In the jargon of special services, Navalny is used by our authorities as a "goat provocateur." Because it is convenient: it has long and well discredited itself, so why change it? Instead, they can find a more intelligent one. In the city of Washington, they understand this, but they can’t find another “goat”, and the Kremlin is slipping them an old trusted one. It is possible that he is already a double agent, works on all sides.

The excitement of the SC “case of billion” by FBK suggests that they are now preparing to use Navalny as evidence of Western interference in our elections. And the point is not the threat of Maidan in Moscow, as some very independent observers try to escalate passions.

Independence Square in Moscow?


In general, Maidan is impossible in Russia, several articles have already been written on this subject, but we repeat: the United States made a strategic mistake by organizing a maidan coup in Kiev in front of not only the Kremlin, Moscow, but also the whole of Russia. In the US, this is understood, ex-Secretary of State Henry Kissinger hinted at this in one of his interviews.

A stronger strategy would be to bet the United States immediately on a coup in Moscow, but after the failure of the white-collar workers in the 2012 year, they abandoned it, concentrating on the Maidan Bandera coup in Kiev at the end of the 2013 - the beginning of the 2014 year. They counted on the “domino” effect, on the fact that the Kiev coup would increase pressure on Moscow. It turned out what happened: the West "took" Ukraine with the help of Bandera, like Hitler in the 1941 year, and Russia created outposts in the Crimea and the Donbass and received a vaccine from the Maidan.

Then came the “Minsk truce”, Moscow hoped to come to an agreement, with the help of the Minsk agreements, return the situation in Ukraine to the state before the coup d'etat, but to no avail. Today, Moscow refuses this “Minsk policy”, this is evidenced by the granting of Russian citizenship to the residents of Donbass, as well as the possibility of obtaining a residence permit in Russia for all citizens of Ukraine, wherever they live. At the same time, Russia's economic sanctions are tightening. In other words, Moscow ceases to support the nationalist state of Ukraine, the Minsk agreements are declared dead, although this is not officially stated. The only benefit of Minsk for Russia is that it was more or less easy to complete the import substitution and rearmament program of the RF Armed Forces.

The Big Game, a new stage


More importantly, the “Minsk policy” of Moscow failed not only in Ukraine, but also in relation to the United States and the West as a whole. In response, Moscow received fantastic accusations of the Skripals case, the Malaysian Boeing, and even Trump’s conspiracy with Putin, anti-Russian sanctions, and blackmailing the United States from the INF Treaty. After all this, Russia has nothing to expect from the United States: Trump is not eternal, the "democrats" of Biden - Clinton and Congress today successfully chew it. But if there’s nothing more to come to an agreement with Washington, there’s no point in enduring further the Western special project “Navalny” and turning a blind eye to its financing by the West.

The wheel of the “big game” has turned and Moscow’s policy towards the United States is changing: Putin officially announced that Russia “will no longer come forward with political initiatives.” Trump America is undemocratic, so our Democrats are no longer needed either. And the Investigative Committee has seen a criminal billion rubles in the accounts of FBK "anti-corruption" Navalny. Under the slogan “For Fair Elections”, they will close him as an accomplice in the interference of the Western special services in the Russian elections, which received funding from abroad for their shares.

And about democracy, "the power of the people"


In simple terms, Western "democracy" is the democrats' divorce of suckers wholesale and retail under the leadership of the American ambassador. Even in Germany, the US ambassador is teaching "democracy" to the natives there. This is also a well-paid job for functionary democrats.

In America itself, there is no “democracy"; it is an export product. The United States has a two-nimble power plutocratic system due to the absence of the US ambassador in Washington, and also because the Russian and Chinese ambassadors do not assume democratic functions.

American analyst Paul Craig Roberts once wrote:
“Russia is waiting for Putin to stand up for the country, stop treating Western countries as partners, when it is obvious that the West is the enemy of Russia. The West is financing traitors who work tirelessly to undermine Russia with Western money. ”


This time is coming, says the Investigative Committee as a consequence of laundering 1 billion rubles of FBK Navalny: they begin to treat traitors as traitors, and as enemies as enemies.
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  1. Egorovich 9 August 2019 15: 08 New
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    Jumped goat in the garden. Now it will be on a leash.
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 15: 36 New
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      Quote: Egorovich
      Jumped goat in the garden. Now it will be on a leash.

      In my opinion there is nothing good in this. Most likely, the accusations are unproven and the state is very afraid of a real coup, as they understand that by their mediocre actions in all areas, they brought the country to a hilt. But Navalny could become a trigger, and if they had endured it before, now it has become very dangerous. All this speaks of a deep political, economic crisis. Apparently, edro will steal and be engaged in the adoption of anti-people laws ..
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        1. Pilat2009 9 August 2019 16: 08 New
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          Quote: vadsonen
          Well, about some money

          And he stole that money? Do we have a law that forbids receiving money from anywhere? Money can be criminal if it is received from the sale of drugs, for example.
          Just in our country, finding an article is not a problem
          The facts provided by Navalny are refuted?
          1. Cat man null 9 August 2019 16: 22 New
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            Quote: Pilat2009
            Do we have a law that forbids receiving money from anywhere?

            Yes. So you order more accurately wink

            Quote: Pilat2009
            The facts provided by Navalny are refuted?

            And you have already prepared the rationale for your, ahem, foam:

            Quote: Pilat2009
            The Russian Ministry of Natural Resources has signed a lease agreement with the Department of Land Resources of the State Council of China to Beijing 3,5 billion hectares of land

            * For reference: the area of ​​the Russian Federation (all) - 1.7 billion ha.

            You wash it off first, then ask questions here yes
            1. vasilii 9 August 2019 16: 26 New
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              Quote: Cat Man Null
              * For reference: the area of ​​the Russian Federation (all) - 1.7 billion ha.

              Yes, "panorama.pub" is an enchanting resource. Although it is strange that someone about him is not yet in the know.
            2. Pilat2009 9 August 2019 16: 43 New
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              Quote: Cat Man Null
              then ask questions here

              To whom and where to ask questions I myself will decide. According to hectares, claims to the resource. Maybe they printed a couple of toe in a hurry
              1. vasilii 9 August 2019 16: 46 New
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                Quote: Pilat2009
                On hectares, claims to the resource. Maybe they printed a couple of zeroes in a hurry

                Satirical edition "Panorama". All texts on this web resource are grotesque parodies of reality and are not real news.
              2. Cat man null 9 August 2019 16: 57 New
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                Quote: Pilat2009
                Per hectare claim to the resource

                "Innocent I" (c), like? wink

                Quote: Pilat2009
                To whom and where to ask questions I will decide

                Nude nude yes
              3. Parabelum 10 August 2019 17: 52 New
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                Iron logic, even hydro-reinforced concrete. I spread a lie, But I'm not to blame. Like they first started ..
            3. dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 10 New
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              4,5 million hectares of forest are BURNED in Russia. Only 6% stew. This is what you need to think about.
              1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 18 New
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                Quote: dirk182
                4,5 million hectares of forest are BURNED in Russia. Only 6% stew. This is what you need to think about.

                And why exactly here, and not on neighboring branches?
                1. dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 43 New
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                  And besides ... we are losing the country.
                  1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 18: 46 New
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                    Quote: dirk182
                    And besides ... we are losing the country.

                    If the paddle will be planted? belay
                2. Harry.km 10 August 2019 14: 17 New
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                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  And why exactly here, and not on neighboring branches?

                  And what's the difference there you will be again and ... all is well beautiful marquise, except for a trifle
                3. Oleg Zorin 10 August 2019 20: 26 New
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                  Why not here?
              2. Tank hard 9 August 2019 19: 59 New
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                Quote: dirk182
                4,5 million hectares of forest are BURNED in Russia. Only 6% stew. That's what you need to think about.

                Cleverly it is you, from Navalny to the forest ... laughing
                1. NordOst16 10 August 2019 09: 57 New
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                  Well, they learn from the government - from mediocre economic policies to external enemies (USA, NATO, etc.)
                  1. Tank hard 10 August 2019 10: 16 New
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                    Quote: NordOst16
                    Well, they learn from the government - from mediocre economic policies to external enemies (USA, NATO, etc.

                    Imagine, I still remember the time when the “friend” Boris was a friend of the “friend” of Beale ... In those “wonderful” times, the Russian economy, in fact, was controlled by various kinds of “consultants” from the USA and NATO countries, and they were considered like “friends.” (If I'm wrong, correct) Nutes, and what was the economic policy then, better than now? Or do you think that if various kinds of Bulk and others like them come to power, will the economy improve dramatically? Huh? And if you know how you can improve the state of the country's economy, offer your project to the country's leadership, maybe start in a bright economic future. fellow
                    1. NordOst16 10 August 2019 10: 50 New
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                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      Imagine, I still remember the time when the “friend” Boris was a friend of the “friend” of Beale ... In those “wonderful” times, the Russian economy, in fact, was controlled by various kinds of “consultants” from the USA and NATO countries, and they were considered like "friends"

                      So the consultants have changed, but the habit of stealing is here, and to live and teach our children over the hill remains, so I don’t see much difference.

                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      Or do you think that if various kinds of Bulk and others like them come to power, will the economy improve dramatically?

                      Is there a scanty chance that yes (although whom am I kidding), but on the other hand, if left as is, the officials will not abruptly start their work and stop stealing on such a scale and so impudently? When the situation is at a hopeless point, people begin to clutch at the ghostly rays of hope in an attempt to change the situation.

                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      And if you know how you can improve the state of the country's economy, offer your project to the country's leadership, maybe start in a bright economic future.

                      I would suggest that it is only for this that the article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation can be soldered because it is not a good idea for the people to think with their own heads and, God forbid, defend their constitutional rights.
                      And this question is from the category, if you did not like the fact that the surgeon had a poor-quality operation, then do it yourself.
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                      2. TokarevT 14 August 2019 09: 21 New
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                        Moses, on the other hand, started a brighter future at the time. There is such a concept in medicine: centralization of blood circulation in a life-threatening situation. Moses did about the same. If the Russians quietly manage to crank up this option (with a slight correction for the current conditions) - they will succeed. They will hear that they have all the brothers, and they owe everything to them - they will perish as waste "manure for the growth of other peoples." Keep secret the leader and his entourage. It is a secret.
                    2. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 14: 32 New
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                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      And if you know how to improve the state of the country's economy, offer your project to the country's leadership

                      There are several projects from not stupid people, but it seems that it’s beneficial for the government to go with the flow, maybe it will. Why change something in the tax policy when you can just freeze pension savings and raise the retirement age. But after 5 years, the same pensioners will retire at 65 and there will be not enough money again
                      1. Tank hard 10 August 2019 14: 44 New
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                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        There are several projects

                        You have a kind of nickname, in the Bible a character with a similar name "washed his hands", he did not fight for the truth. repeat
                      2. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 14: 59 New
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                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        You have a kind of nickname

                        Well, you have a difficult nickname. Yes, and many here. You could, of course, take Nick For Putin For Truth, or something else
                      3. Tank hard 10 August 2019 15: 09 New
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                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Well, and you have a difficult nickname

                        That's for sure. Each word in my nickname and name in brackets has its own meaning. That is why I am always alarmed by individuals with a nickname similar to yours. Although, maybe I'm too paranoid. request
                      4. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 18: 03 New
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                        Quote: Tank Hard
                        I am always alarmed by individuals with a nickname like yours

                        Are you a psychiatrist, doctor?
                      5. Tank hard 10 August 2019 18: 05 New
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                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Are you a psychiatrist, doctor?

                        Now I am a teacher at school.
              3. Cat man null 10 August 2019 14: 49 New
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                Quote: Pilat2009
                Quote: Tank Hard
                And if you know how to improve the state of the country's economy, offer your project to the country's leadership

                There are several projects from smart people ...

                Come on, come on ... voice over the details, plz wink
              4. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 14: 56 New
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                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Come on, come on ... voice over the details, plz

                Have you forgotten how to use Google? Do you need to put everything in your mouth?
              5. Cat man null 10 August 2019 15: 14 New
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                Quote: Pilat2009
                Forgot to use Google?

                This is hutspa. What do you want to drive into Google - "several projects from clever people"? Not funny laughing

                Quote: Pilat2009
                Do you need to put everything in your mouth?

                Try not to be rude, if possible. Harmful to karma, you know wink
              6. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 18: 04 New
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                Quote: Cat Man Null
                Harmful to karma, you know

                I'm crying
              7. TokarevT 14 August 2019 09: 28 New
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                I agree with you. This is simply charming: a forest cat commemorating Ham in the context of karmic punishment. A very vulnerable cat, by the way. A little slipper swings at him - squeals, beeps, threatens with karma and administrators, and he is a little more likely striving to shit in shoes from a subdisc. So here. Watch out with him.
    2. Campanella 10 August 2019 16: 38 New
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      The government has repeatedly been asked to change policies, including the Communist Party.
      Power very strictly means that it will decide everything.
      By the way, when asked about capitalism, Putin without batting said that the people chose this path! So comments are superfluous.
      1. perm23 11 August 2019 12: 59 New
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        and in what he is wrong. Who else but ourselves at one time dreamed of capitalism. jokes told about the USSR. they were looking for imported clothes and admired the West with might and main. The people themselves chose to sell the USSR for jeans and Pepsi Cola and Marlboro cigarette bags
      2. MBRSS 11 August 2019 14: 12 New
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        perm23, here it is not necessary here for everyone! This is you (personally), probably:
        - dreamed of capitalism
        - jokes told about the USSR
        - searched for imported clothes
        - with might and main admired the West
        - sold the USSR for jeans and Pepsi Cola and Marlboro cigarette bags

        and I ran after domestic non-mercantile girls, in my first year, in domestic jeans and other domestic inexpensive clothes. He smoked domestic cigarettes, sometimes Bulgarian. And did not bother with any garbage. You are just out of luck!
      3. perm23 12 August 2019 09: 30 New
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        It’s good that YOU were so .. but I saw others and there were a lot of them, for which the imported clothes were the ultimate dream. . You probably saw those too. who went out to defend Yeltsin and built the barricades, Well then you didn’t go out and didn’t say the pace that they were unlucky, that they didn’t live that way. Well then, the USSR then collapsed so and the nickname from YOU who were lucky did not come out to defend their country.
      4. AlexSam 14 August 2019 20: 01 New
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        country or Moscow? there were no putsch in the country, moreover, the country voted against the collapse of the USSR ... or sir did not know?
  2. aybolyt678 11 August 2019 20: 33 New
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    Putin without batting said that the people chose this path! So comments are superfluous.

    The people and the Communists chose capitalism because at one time the Party led by Gorbi explained so. Like the market according to Marxists, everything will be ruined ... It took time to realize the error. The people realized Putin is not.
  3. perm23 12 August 2019 09: 32 New
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    people chose advertising full shelves in stores. and supposedly freedom .. people wanted. as always, eat as best and as much as possible. and he didn’t give a damn what this system would be called. and the Communists were basically just opportunists, they went to the party to be closer to the feeding trough. . and not for the sake of some ideals
  4. aybolyt678 12 August 2019 11: 18 New
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    Quote: perm23
    and supposedly freedom

    Allegedly - a keyword. Who brought these shelves as an option of freedom? And Hollywood turned out to be much more effective than the Soviet Ministry of Propaganda, but now people need social justice
  5. perm23 12 August 2019 15: 30 New
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    yes people spit on justice. people want to eat as sweet and as much as possible and sleep as best as possible. The character Colonel Lakhnovsky was right in the movie Eternal Call saying these words. So it happened. but we brought all these words ourselves. when they listened to different figures without thinking about anything. When for us the clothes came first. When we were so trudging on western music. . .
  6. Lexa-149 12 August 2019 15: 47 New
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    What is wrong with western music? You are driving it the wrong way. Yes, the people didn’t have enough household clothes: jeans, various clothes, television sets, tape recorders, sausages, meat, butter and other things. If the party elite drew attention to this, filled the shops, then there would have been no putsch. The Communists had a chance to change the world, but Zyuganov merged and voted for Yeltsin. And now he is trying to tell something there.
  7. perm23 13 August 2019 06: 58 New
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    to that and drove. that the people sold their country. as when the Indians for beads. . and they must always nod to the party elite. It's easy to live like that. that in all your troubles someone else is to blame and not you yourself. We are all to blame. and those who climbed into the party for the sake of a career and those who dragged from the enterprises everything that is possible and impossible. and those who bought at exorbitant prices from speculators.
  8. Lexa-149 13 August 2019 09: 59 New
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    So who led the planned economy? Isn't it the party elite ?! And why did people drag? Yes, because there was nothing in the stores. The people were asked once and the people replied that they were for preserving the USSR. Someone listened to him ?!
    Why not party bosses then care about the welfare of the population of their country, and not some Angola and other "African brothers"?
  9. perm23 13 August 2019 13: 34 New
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    and the people swallowed silently. . that there will be no USSR. didn’t take to the streets did not demand. all quietly fled to their apartments. national. . but they helped because they understood that one in the world could not survive. that one state of this type is doomed. you must always develop and buy allies. which we did. But not always figuring out who is our friend
  10. aybolyt678 12 August 2019 22: 25 New
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    Quote: perm23
    When we were so trudging on western music. . .

    wink because she was in short supply .... Remember such a thing - a string bag? Perhaps this is the god of fortune among the ancient Russians smile The mediocre policy of the Kremlin elders and the subversive economic activity of the Farcians formed a certain public request for changes in politics, in addition, there was undoubtedly Western funding for certain political structures armed with Kalashnikov assault rifles and print media such as AIDS INFO breaking the foundations of public consciousness, and when public consciousness loses its foothold and becoming precarious ...
  11. region58 12 August 2019 23: 26 New
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    Quote: perm23
    The character Colonel Lakhnovsky was right in the movie Eternal Call saying these words.

    Quote: perm23
    When we were so trudging on western music. . .

    Interesting ... what That is, it turns out we listened to Western music, and watched the right movies. yes Why did it all happen, why was Lakhnovsky right? ... Information for consideration (s) ...
  • KrokodilGena 10 August 2019 22: 15 New
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    Quote: Tank Hard
    Nutes, and what was economic policy then, better than now?

    So look at the growth figures of the economy, investment and industry of the Russian Federation at the end of the 99th, with oil prices at $ 10 and compare with today's.
    Quote: Tank Hard
    Or do you think that if various kinds of Bulk and others like them come to power, will the economy improve dramatically? Huh?

    The security officers and crime came to power in 99m, which I think has been clear to everyone in 20 years. You might think the Puten government is struggling to establish economic growth and the well-being of citizens? No, of which big officials or security officials do not stick, dollar millionaires are everywhere, up to billionaires, partly with dual citizenship. These are proven facts, thanks to the same Navalny and his FBK, for which this power wants to close him.
    1. Tank hard 12 August 2019 10: 05 New
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      Quote: KrokodilGena
      These are proven facts through the same To Navalny and his fbk

      If you thank Navalny, then this says a lot about you and about those who plus you. But I have nothing to talk with like about ... request
    2. Roman070280 13 August 2019 14: 13 New
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      And you can even bury your head even in the sand ..
      But man is right - it is thanks to Navalny that we will learn many things ..
      The fact is the fact ..
  • Klingon 11 August 2019 10: 42 New
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    I perceive the times of Eb'nts as the deep Middle Ages, when various groups led by mafia barons ruled the life of cities. However, we survived))
    1. region58 12 August 2019 23: 36 New
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      Quote: Klingon
      various groups led by mafia barons ruled the life of cities

      Many (those who are smarter) safely survived, legalized, and, in general, even now "successfully
      tucked in "at many levels. In many ways, therefore, we now have what we have. IMHO, of course.
  • abrakadabre 10 August 2019 15: 50 New
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    Cleverly it is you, from Navalny to the forest ...
    But it seems to me that a very good combination: Bulk (criminal) and the forest. It remains to combine these two concepts by the verdict of the court ...
  • Campanella 9 August 2019 20: 14 New
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    But interestingly, how much does the chief forester get from us? Thousand 20 go, with such fires. And how many?
    1. dirk182 9 August 2019 20: 21 New
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      And the forest code updated in 2019 is very interesting. But this is a word. The prosecutor general’s office has already revealed the facts of intentional arsons in Siberia. That is, they cannot ignore the public response
    2. MBRSS 11 August 2019 14: 19 New
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      I don’t remember exactly, but the number of gamekeepers / foresters was reduced by a factor of 10, compared with their staff in the USSR. The rest are simply not able to monitor large areas. Yes, and they pay them a little - a minimum.
  • Nick 10 August 2019 19: 39 New
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    Quote: dirk182
    4,5 million hectares of forest are BURNED in Russia. Only 6% stew. This is what you need to think about.

    1. This is the area of ​​areas covered by fires. The area of ​​the burned-out forest is about 400 thousand ha.
    2. Forest area in Russia 1,2 billion ha. The area of ​​burned out forest sites is about three hundredths of a percent.
    3. Forests burn thousands of kilometers from settlements where people have not yet set foot. They extinguish only where there is a danger to residential, industrial and other facilities.
    5. Forests burn annually for millennia. This is a natural process, as the forest is updated.
    6. The largest area of ​​fires in the modern history of Russia was observed in the 2018 year. According to Avialeskhrana’s data, 8 million 674 thousand hectares were passed by fire (2,5 times more than in the 2017 year). For some reason, last year this circumstance did not cause any interest in the blogosphere.
    7. The forest area of ​​Russia is growing on average by 1,6 -1,7% per decade, and the volume of wood reserves in forest lands is increasing annually by an average of 870 million cubic meters.
    Stop writing horror stories!
    1. dirk182 10 August 2019 21: 20 New
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      Wow. According to the Federal Forestry Agency, the area of ​​forests at the end of 2018 is 7.7 million square kilometers. According to Greenpeace, the area of ​​burned-out forests for this year is 13 million hectares (it is unlikely that logging is plus). Take a calculator and count. Where is 3 hundredths of a percent ???
      1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 21: 28 New
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        Quote: dirk182
        According to Greenpeace, the area of ​​burned forests for this year is 13 mln. Ha

        В Hitler’s rate greenpeace all malacholny negative
        1. dirk182 10 August 2019 21: 29 New
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          And even so. Tovarisch speaks of 3 hundredths. As a calculator, do not twist, it still turns out more.
          1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 21: 55 New
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            Quote: dirk182
            Tovarisch speaks of 3 hundredths. As a calculator do not twist, it still turns out more

            Tovarisch, hike, I made a mistake here:

            Quote: dirk182
            Forest area in Russia 1,2 billion ha

            The total area of ​​the Russian Federation is 1.7 billion ha. Something is doubtful to me about the "forests" what
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            The total area of ​​the Russian Federation is 1.7 billion ha. Something is doubtful to me about the "forests"

            And you take a look at the map of Russia. From Moscow to the Far East there are continuous forests, to the north to Arkhangelsk and Murmansk too. Thousands of kilometers of forests and taiga
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            Quote: Nick
            And you take a look at the map of Russia

            Yes, I’ll do a better query in Google:

            According to the World Bank, which differs from that of Rosleskhoz, in 2016, the forest area of ​​Russia amounted to 8,1 million square meters. km

            8 100 000 sq. Km = 810 000 000 ha. Something like this.

            Quote: Nick
            There are continuous forests from Moscow to the Far East, to the north to Arkhangelsk and Murmansk too

            Yeah ... in the north - the tundra, in the south and not only - the steppe. And all this together - 1.7 billion hectares.

            Yet:

            The forest cover of the Russian Federation is 45,4% ...



            1700000000 * 45.4 / 100 = 771800000 ha. But not 1.2 billion. request
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    Wow. According to the Federal Forestry Agency, the area of ​​forests at the end of the 2018 year 7.7 mln.sq.km

    For the gifted again:
    In Russia, not all forests are registered with Leskhoz. I have already pointed out to you that the forest area of ​​Russia is about 1,2 billion ha. But the point is not that, but that forest fires are a natural annual process. This is what happens for millennia. There is no deforestation, the process of updating the arrays in a natural way is underway. Forests burn annually, millions of hectares of forests in Russia every year! So it was a thousand years ago. Tell me, who put out the taiga 3 thousands of years ago? The answer is obvious - NOBODY. But for some reason, the forests have not disappeared. Why shout and worry about it? Moreover, the area of ​​forests in Russia is increasing. Growing annually and timber stock at approximately 870 million cubic meters annually. This is despite the fact that the entire Russian forest industry processes wood less than 600 million cubic meters per year. We are overgrown with forest!
    1. dirk182 11 August 2019 09: 55 New
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      And who cut down the taiga a thousand years ago? Can someone set fire to it? In nature for thousands of years there has been a balance. Next, is the fire extinguished? No. That's when they put out, then we'll talk about volumes. But a modest 10 planes and helicopters for Russia is somehow shallow. Oh yes, because now the reason will be cut down illegally further. Under the guise of utility, for the "renewal" of the forest.
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        Quote: dirk182
        And who cut down the taiga a thousand years ago? Can someone set fire to it? In nature for thousands of years there has been a balance. Next, is the fire extinguished? Not. That's when they put out, then we'll talk about volumes

        Last time for the highly literate: TAigu always burned and even now, when it burns and is cut down, Russia is overgrown with forest! The increase in timber reserves annually exceeds all processing and increases annually by 870 million cubic meters!
        If you still do not understand then these are problems of your intellectual development. There will be no further clarification.
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        I wonder what kind of natural phenomena caused a sharp overgrowth of Russia in the forest. It should be the other way around. After all, before Peter did not smoke, at least. I think they didn’t go to barbecue too much. There were no matches. Or were lightnings more frequent at that time? Or chopped-exported more?
      3. Svidetel 45 12 August 2019 23: 11 New
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        They didn’t smoke before Peter, but they burned bonfires, heated stoves, uprooted and burned woods under arable land, dry lightnings also struck trees in those days, so really, there were always fires, but the taiga still stands, although, of course, it’s better It would be that there were no fires or they took place under control.
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    an array of cubic meters was considered? Young growth, undergrowth and grass can also be called a forest? Fires, by the way, due to untidy forests spread so quickly. They forgot that it is necessary not only to cut down the forest, but also to clean up at least branches. True, — lo and behold! —The Russians recently decided to collect branches in the forest for their own needs, without criminal prosecution!
  • perm23 11 August 2019 12: 57 New
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    You would not have thought but would have gone and helped to put out.
  • Harry.km 10 August 2019 14: 16 New
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    Quote: Cat Man Null
    You get rid of it first, then ask yes questions here

    Well, the collector ... Your colleague "Lipchanin" requires a certificate from VO visitors that they are not LGBT (you need to get it from a gynecologist). You have taken on the role of moydodyr.
    Pilat2009 does not know the law on NPOs, therefore, maybe it asks. And you immediately to him: - "wash off"
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      Quote: Harry.km
      You have taken on the role of moydodyr

      Well, why do I need it, for me, and so on in life - under a hundred "roles" laughing

      It’s just that your colleague, Pilate, in the heat of 2 of the Russian Federation’s territory, “leased it to the Chinese.” Hypa wanted to grab, and grabbed ... still, go ahead, spit request

      Quote: Harry.km
      Pilat2009 does not know NPO law

      He, campaign, doesn’t know much. Well, and let it self-educate - what is there to talk nonsense ...
      1. Harry.km 10 August 2019 14: 55 New
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        Quote: Cat Man Null
        He, campaign, doesn’t know much.

        So your colleague “Lipchanin” stated that Navalny’s NPO is nowhere and not registered, which is a lie, since there are copies on the FBK website: state registration certificates, tax registration certificate. accounting and registration certificate in the register. I didn’t know, I got it wrong, I wanted a hype?)) An accident? I do not think (c) Double standards. And by the way, the FBK account in the alpha bank, which the media so loudly trumpeted, is not frozen. And Mr. Navalny is just the founder of FBK ... and the director and executive director will be responsible for the activities if they find anything, which I really doubt. So dear who only does not talk nonsense, about and without ... the person is so arranged and it’s not for you to remake it for sure))))

        PS is there such a desire? Start with yourself)))
  • MBRSS 11 August 2019 13: 53 New
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    Roman, explain the statement about hectares - the work of Pilat2009?
    You wash it off
  • AlexSam 14 August 2019 19: 57 New
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    Novel, minus, as I understand it, patreots ... as many as 36 individuals)
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      Quote: AlexSam
      minus, as I understand it, patreots ... as many 36 individuals)

      Not ... it's more like a people whose toy was taken away ... such a fairy tale was beautiful - but no, it turned out - a lie laughing
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        as an option))
  • Tatyana 9 August 2019 16: 28 New
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    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    Most likely accusations (against Navalny) PROOF

    Nothing like this! Such accusations are not scattered or joked! Moreover, against Navalny!
    With the evidence referred to in the article against Navalny, you can see for yourself on the latest videos!

    Navalny spent a vacation for stolen money. Proof of. Published: May 29 2019


    And also video:
    "PE. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Cash Transition." Published: May 29 2019
    [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = lyvkJhcavmM]
    1. dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 12 New
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      Not surprising. They steal from both sides. But it is already in full swing without Navalny.
      1. vasilii 9 August 2019 17: 25 New
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        What in this case means "steal"? Bulk head of FBK, people send FBK donations to activities, including the salary of employees. It is funnier that the owners of villas, yachts and business jets make claims to those who travel with their families to Turkey and Thailand.
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          Basil, I'm sorry, I forgot to take the "steal" in quotation marks. Some receive grants, others earn extra income
      2. Cat man null 9 August 2019 17: 37 New
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        Quote: dirk182
        already in full swing without Navalny

        And for some, as you look, it’s already just burning laughing
        1. NordOst16 10 August 2019 10: 01 New
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          Yeah, like, if you watch TV, we live almost in a superpower, and the incomes of the population are lower than in the decaying Geyrop. How not to blaze from this (and sooner or later it will blaze)
    2. Vasiliev Yu 10 August 2019 05: 35 New
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      It’s just interesting, but what kind of money does Sands spend on the Maldives?
      FOR 24 THOUSAND BUCKS A DAY?
      Honestly earned?

      This first appeared in Telegram after the Old New Year, and now you can find and read on the sites.
    3. MBRSS 11 August 2019 14: 51 New
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      and where is the money of others? Whom did Navalny rob?
      1. Tatyana 11 August 2019 15: 21 New
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        Quote: MBRBS
        and where is the money of others? Whom did Navalny rob?

        First of all. Have you watched a video? By the way. There are indicated 2 pcs.
        1. "Navalny spent a vacation for stolen money. Evidence. 2 Published: May 29 2019
        2. Video
        And also video:
        "PE. Investigation": "Citizen Navralny - 2. Cash Transition." Published: May 29 2019
        [media =https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyvkJhcavmM]

        The first video program "VO" missed, and the second - no. Second video need to type yourself.

        Secondly. You have a strange concept of theft!
        Doing the same illegal business and not paying taxes - do you think that ?! Yes, you and this day will not live at large in the same America-in the "democratic" USA!
      2. perm23 12 August 2019 09: 37 New
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        the people about whom he so yells. He robbed the people. Or you don’t understand it. that you can’t shout what kind of people I am and right there when the people are starving according to him to go somewhere and rest there. It’s so hard for you to tie this all together. If he is so good, then let your money be spent helping people and not basking on the beaches.
  • Lipchanin 9 August 2019 16: 40 New
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    And he stole that money? Do we have a law that forbids receiving money from anywhere?

    Prohibits.
    6. In this Federal Law, a non-profit organization performing the functions of a foreign agent is understood to be a Russian non-profit organization that receives money and other property from foreign states, their state bodies, international and foreign organizations, foreign citizens, stateless persons or persons authorized by them and ( or) from Russian legal entities receiving cash and other property from these sources (with the exception of open joint stock companies with state -governmental participation and their subsidiaries) (hereinafter - foreign sources), and which is involved, including the interests of foreign sources, the political activities carried out in the territory of the Russian Federation.

    Navralny as an NPO is not registered anywhere
    And more
    The specified activity is carried out in the following forms:
    participation in organizing and conducting public events in the form of meetings, rallies, demonstrations, marches or pickets, or in various combinations of these forms, organizing and conducting public debates, discussions, speeches;
    participation in activities aimed at obtaining a specific result in elections, referenda, in monitoring the conduct of elections, referendum, the formation of election commissions, referendum commissions, in the activities of political parties;
    public appeals to state bodies, local governments, their officials, as well as other actions that affect the activities of these bodies, including those aimed at the adoption, amendment, repeal of laws or other regulatory legal acts;
    dissemination, including using modern information technologies, of opinions on decisions taken by state bodies and their policies;
    the formation of socio-political views and convictions, including through public opinion polls and the publication of their results or other sociological studies;
    involvement of citizens, including minors, in the specified activity;
    financing of the specified activity.
    1. Catfish 9 August 2019 17: 23 New
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      And he stole that money? Do we have a law that forbids receiving money from anywhere?

      Prohibits.


      And nobody steals? You should not make people laugh like that, you are not Zelensky, I hope. laughing
      1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 39 New
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        And nobody steals?

        Did I say about theft?
        It is about who pays for it and the covens arranged by him.
        Do not make people laugh like that

        That's right. First you need to understand what it is about, and only then express your opinion
        1. Catfish 9 August 2019 17: 58 New
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          So stole, or pay? If they pay, then who? And what is at stake for a long time is clear.
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            Quote: Sea Cat
            If they pay, then who?

            And just need to read the article.
            There is written in Russian in white
            The Investigative Committee initiated a case of laundering 1 billion rubles by the “Anti-Corruption Fund” by Alexei Navalny, our main “anti-corruption” and pro-American opposition. Apparently, the investigation will go to Western sources of Navalny financing on a large scale, this is serious, and this is the first time.

            This time is coming, says the Investigative Committee as a consequence of laundering 1 billion rubles of FBK Navalny: they begin to treat traitors as traitors, and as enemies as enemies.
            1. Catfish 9 August 2019 19: 05 New
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              Somehow since Soviet times, I have learned how to blindly believe the statements of the authorities. Do you want to believe - believe, it's up to you.
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              Quote: Lipchanin
              Apparently, the investigation will come out

              Is it already Hiley Likely or not yet Hiley?
              1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 19: 34 New
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                Quote: vasilii
                Is it already Hiley Likely or not yet Hiley?

                Should I quote the whole article?
                The excitement of the SC “case of billion” by FBK suggests that they are now preparing to use Navalny as evidence of Western interference in our elections. And the point is not the threat of Maidan in Moscow, as some very independent observers try to escalate passions.

                This time is coming, says the Investigative Committee. consequence of laundering 1 billion rubles of FBK Navalny
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                In this article, it was necessary to write differently: "they are preparing to use because of the Maidan in Moscow." It will be more true
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  • MBRSS 11 August 2019 14: 56 New
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    Prohibits.
    6. Under a nonprofit organization

    Navralny as an NPO is not registered anywhere

    something doesn't stick
  • Dart2027 9 August 2019 18: 01 New
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    Quote: Pilat2009
    And he stole that money? Do we have a law that forbids receiving money from anywhere?

    There is a law. And by the way, he is also in the same USA.
    Quote: Pilat2009
    The facts provided by Navalny are refuted?

    Did he have them?
    1. Fan-fan 10 August 2019 09: 36 New
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      Well, Navalny put up a video about palaces and estates, including in Europe, our bureaucrats in power, well, who refuted this?
      1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 10: 32 New
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        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Well Navalny put up a video about

        Everyone knows that there are people like oligarchs without Navalny. And the fact that the authorities never offended themselves was known back in the USSR.
        1. Digital error 10 August 2019 13: 43 New
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          Quote: Dart2027
          that the authorities never offended themselves knew in the USSR

          The USSR did not raise the retirement age even in the 1945 year. No one is against the fact that they do not offend themselves - it was and will be so. But why should the ordinary working people have to pay for all their whims?
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            Quote: DigitalError
            But why should the ordinary working people have to pay for all their whims?

            And who else, Pushkin? Physics, the school course - nothing disappears without a trace and does not arise from anything, that is, for it to arrive somewhere, it is necessary for it to disappear somewhere.
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              Quote: Dart2027
              for it to arrive somewhere, it is necessary for it to go somewhere

              About that and speech. If, along with raising the retirement age, a progressive tax was introduced (as an announcement of further measures to strengthen the welfare state), I would take this with understanding.
              Not Pushkin, but conditional Usmanov.
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                If along with raising the retirement age a progressive tax would be introduced
                They will introduce us when we have a stable system that has been created in other countries for more than a hundred years.
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                Quote: Dart2027
                created over a hundred-odd years

                It seems that it was precisely so many years that Putin’s "long state" Surkov promised the deepest people. And if you agree with this, then I - no. And about notraising the retirement age in 1945 what do you say - now it was more necessary than then?
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                Quote: DigitalError
                It seems that it was precisely so many years that Putin’s "long state" Surkov promised the deepest people.

                Do you think he will live so much? I doubt it.
                Quote: DigitalError
                retirement age in 1945

                One way or another, the war mowed down a population of all ages, but there were no contraceptives then, so the demographic situation was different. Here the ban on abortion was introduced - the country needed working hands and they were forced to give birth.
    2. Pilat2009 10 August 2019 14: 42 New
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      And the fact that the authorities never offended themselves was known back in the USSR.

      That is, you can steal? Citizens sit upright, everything is fine in the country, well, you’ll think a couple of billion have been stolen. Tomorrow another couple of billion of your taxes will be stolen. Don’t worry, we’re all sitting here.
      1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 15: 24 New
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        So you can steal?

        When there are elites who do not care about their pockets, we can talk about the onset of communism. This is not irony or ridicule, it really is.
        Separate exceptions only confirm the rule.
        1. Digital error 10 August 2019 15: 28 New
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          When will the elites appear

          They will not appear, but the current ones must be kept in constant tension. In this regard, I recalled the statement (I can not vouch for the accuracy of quoting) from the time of the French Revolution:
          Nothing makes the government care for the people like the view of the guillotine outside the window
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            They will not appear, but the current ones must be kept in constant tension.

            To a certain limit, otherwise they will simply try to arrange a coup. In principle, this is being done in our country, it is enough to recall the chaos of the 90s.
            Quote: DigitalError
            Nothing makes the government care for the people like the view of the guillotine outside the window

            Fans of this statement forget that most of those who were executed were far from the elite, and all who launched this process themselves died from it.
      2. perm23 12 August 2019 09: 40 New
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        You know who stole. YOU can prove it so go and prove it. or that we will shoot and plant without facts and trial
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    and then refute it. That's what . there is an incomprehensible video about some estates and there are no facts. documents whose and who is the owner. . if there are several cars at my entrance. then this does not mean that their owner is only me alone .. and in Navalny everything is built on the same principle. How would the UN himself steal if he were in power.
  • 2 Level Advisor 10 August 2019 16: 25 New
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    But what is the law called that prohibits cashing out bitcoins? just interesting in self-education ..
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    Did he have them?

    in fact, according to the media, they are investigating and opening criminal cases. Or Navalny is not the media? With such a number of subscribers?
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      Corrected))))
  • perm23 11 August 2019 12: 55 New
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    and what to refute is if there are simply no facts. There are different speculations and assumptions. Well, there are no facts and documents
  • Lexa-149 12 August 2019 15: 41 New
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    And he filed a lawsuit over a violation of the law? I tried to eat with Zolotov and how did it end? This young man is a provocateur. He does his investigations and does not go to court to uphold the truth and the law. He throws this bone into a thirsty crowd and the crowd begins to rage, stand on its hind legs. And Alyoshenka himself is modestly standing aside or his 15 days on the bunk.
    If you study his financial activities on Wikipedia, then, roughly speaking, you can follow this trend: as soon as a lot of money passed through his companies, the company went bankrupt or closed. His legendary "Kobyakovo weaving firm" I could not find on the map.
  • nikon7717 12 August 2019 21: 05 New
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    The scheme for financing coups is as old as the world. They created a private fund, which seemed to be independent, and grandmothers came to the project from another semi-state fund through a grant from the State Department or the CIA. Then they from the fund are already clean, conditionally, to finance coups d'etat. This is a simplification of the design. Look at the founders of the funds and everything will become clear as a white day. These people have never fed illusions about the Russian Federation and do nothing for free, for the sake of some democratic goals. Only profit, power, control.
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    We need to call him here. So that he exposes you
  • vik669 11 August 2019 12: 04 New
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    Navalny’s problem - false start and no problems before you sit before you leave!
  • Galina schreder 11 August 2019 13: 20 New
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    Well, about some money. And how many sun-faced friends (and he himself) laundered, stolen?
    ..Here, ONLY as opposed to nonsense about, laundered, stolen, you can give hundreds and thousands of examples of what was built under Putin and his friends. This cannot be said about bulk. Only theft. I hope they put them in 10 years
    1. Mordvin 3 11 August 2019 13: 31 New
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      Hopefully put years on 10

      Whom Putin? Eh, Hope dies last, Vera said, shooting Love ...
  • aybolyt678 11 August 2019 20: 30 New
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    Quote: vadsonen
    If he had been engaged in from the very beginning exposing Putin's organized crime groups, a completely different attitude would have been to him.

    there would be no change of attitude! Russia in search of a path, a leader, an idea. Bulk as a mirror shows what everyone knows, but he is not the bearer of an idea, does not offer a way ...
  • vasilii 9 August 2019 15: 52 New
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    It will be interesting to observe cognitive dissonance when it turns out that the main enemies, rockers of the boat and the other fifth column were neutralized, and the objective factors of discontent (the sixth consecutive year of falling real incomes of the population) did not disappear. Navalny is only a pity (not everyone has to get acid in his eyes or his brother in prison for their activities), well, I have no doubt that he fully understood what he was going on.
    1. Captain45 9 August 2019 23: 26 New
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      Navalny is only sorry (not everyone has to get acid in his eyes for his activity

      So he's blind belay ??? How is he blind and sees EVERYTHING ?! And, I remembered such a book in the store I saw "Blind against everyone." Is this about him, about Oleshenka? Yes, the movie was still “And it's all about him.” Also about him, our fighter?
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        Quote: Captain45
        So is he blind ?? How is he blind and sees EVERYTHING ?! And, I remembered such a book in the store I saw "Blind against everyone." Is this about him, about Oleshenka? Yes, the movie was still “And it's all about him.” Also about him, our fighter?

        and I remember the movie "Blind Fury" with Rutger / earth rest in peace / Hauer
    2. your1970 10 August 2019 14: 19 New
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      Navalny is only a pity (not everyone has to get acid in his eyes or his brother in prison for their activities),
      - I’m embarrassed to ask, did they give him penal servitude, they sent him to Akatuy or Nerchinsk? Or isn’t everything so sad -15 will get off for days?
      true revolutionaries not only had real terms, they most importantly had a real program. And for Leshenka from the program - only exclusively: "Down with !!" and all. Not a word how he will get out with the economy will be with industry, with pensioners and so on
    3. Lexa-149 13 August 2019 10: 06 New
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      One has only to think about the amounts that without taxes passed through his FBK that he and Volkov could afford to maintain a bunch of the headquarters of his party, spending on party symbols, spending on rallies in the election campaign. Donations from snotty "children" and followers?
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    , because they understand that their mediocre actions in all areas

    It depends on which side to look. If on the part of ordinary citizens, then yes, a mediocre policy. If from the point of view of the real masters of Russia - the oligarchs and their minions in the Government, it is easy to see that their things are not just going well, but just great. The first record new wealth records every year. The second, hired managers, systematically push through cannibalistic laws and reforms, without the manifestation of serious protests by serfs. The main thing for the owners of Russia is to avoid truly massive protests. And drawing the desired election results is not a problem. The main thing is that the people do not rebel. So that people's identity does not wake up and that people continue to believe in propaganda. Neither the Communists, nor the others, in quotation marks, the opposition parties are able to bring people to the streets, and they do not want to, because everything suits them.
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      Neither the Communists, nor the others, in quotation marks, the opposition parties are able to bring people to the streets, and they do not want to, because everything suits them.

      1. output. At least the communists.
      2. At least the Communists are not happy.
      people continued to believe propaganda

      you nevermind, dear LDPR-sheep!
      (joke)
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    I agree.
    But Kamenev does not want to write for example about the words of Jacob Kedmi:
    Israeli statesman and diplomat Jacob Kedmi said that Russia's main problem is the anti-national elite. According to Kedmi, neither in Israel, nor in the USA, nor in Europe would have allowed such people to be in power. "We only observe that the elite is absolutely anti-national. It is not interested in the development of the country and does not even want to associate itself with Russia at all. Often, the families of these people live abroad, there is property and money. Is it possible to imagine that the Israeli elite for example, did you keep your families in Iran, did you save money there? It’s impossible to imagine a single similar case. It’s from the realm of fantasy. Or take the USA. Are there big officials whose families live in Russia and these people keep in Russia money? is it also from the realm of science fiction. The situation in Russia would have shocked people who would have tried to imagine this in their own country. In fact, the situation is unprecedented. "
    Or what happened 20 years as Putin in power and how "Russia rose from its knees under him"?
    1. Dart2027 9 August 2019 18: 04 New
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      Quote: Vasilyev u
      Israeli statesman and diplomat Jacob Kedmi said that Russia's main problem is the anti-national elite.

      And where to get another elite? She didn’t fall from the moon.
      In such cases, they begin to blame Stalin, they say he ... But let me - when Stalin died, then the then-elite immediately renounced him. It turns out that Stalin did not have it either.
      1. Vasiliev Yu 9 August 2019 18: 28 New
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        And the mayor of Yakutsk Sardana Avksentievna will not go on to the role of the new elite? Or Kvachkov for example?
        Why is there at best only criticizing, and not offering their candidates? All together and would discuss, you see, someone really worthy and would find Putin's place.
        And how did the elite form in our country? And what is the difference from the same in Ukraine?
        In Ukraine, the Maidan happened with the best thoughts for the people, in the hope of changing their ghouls. And they changed them. At worse, for which it’s easier to destroy people than to negotiate. And why did the president change so easily? Yes, because there was no one behind the piglet, and he built the vertical of power so that he could only steal and not give to others. Here is a greedy and stupid earhook and changed.
        And we have? The family of Alkash and the FSB originally stood behind Putin, and for all these years, all 20 years he has been building the power vertical so that if you support him, he allowed you to steal, you do not support him, get out of power. So our elite turned out to be completely thieves.
        1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 18: 59 New
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          Quote: Vasilyev u
          And we have? Behind Putin was originally the family of Alkash and the FSB

          And where did the FSB, the former KGB come from?
          Has it fallen from Mars?
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          Quote: Vasilyev u
          And the mayor of Yakutsk Sardana Avksentievna will not go on to the role of the new elite? Or Kvachkov for example?

          I don’t know about the measure, but Kvachkov is not very similar to politics.
          1. Vasiliev Yu 9 August 2019 23: 18 New
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            And he is not needed in the role of a politician, he is needed in the role of the main security official in order to clean all the scum from us (hello Chubais).
            1. Dart2027 9 August 2019 23: 23 New
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              Quote: Vasilyev u
              And he is not needed in the role of a politician, he is needed in the role of the main security officer

              Power structures are an instrument of politics, and not vice versa.
              1. Vasiliev Yu 10 August 2019 05: 11 New
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                It is now that they have become an instrument of both politics and business and banking. There’s no one to spit on, you’ll definitely get into the siloviki.
                1. Dart2027 10 August 2019 06: 45 New
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                  There’s no one to spit on, you’ll definitely get into the siloviki.

                  A security official may or may not be a politician. Kvachkov is a pure military man.
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                    That is, you are for the siloviki-politician, I understand you. And in what party should he be a member? I do not hope in EP?
                    Have you served yourself? What, will you be new to the fact that the army was the most hated and despised in the army? In your opinion, any security officer should belong to any party, without this, and the service, not the service will be?
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                    That is, you are for the siloviki-politician, I understand you.

                    Not really. A politician must be a politician. He may also be a security official, there is nothing improbable in this, but this is not necessary.
                    Quote: Vasilyev u
                    Have you served yourself?

                    Yes, in the 90s, there was such an attitude to the political leaders that there is a political leader and there is.
                    Quote: Vasilyev u
                    In your opinion, any security officer should belong to any party

                    A loner will always lose to a group - this is a fact of life, so that any person in politics either joins any party, or creates his own, or he will easily be “devoured” at the first collision of interests.
          2. your1970 10 August 2019 14: 27 New
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            he is needed in the role of the main silovik to clean all the scum from us from the government
            - a person incapable of performing a fairly simple action - to the main security forces ??? Or was there a column of Wehrmacht with motorized infantry and tanks? As? So in the Second World War the partisans even managed to stop this ... both in Chechnya ... and in Afghanistan ... and even more places ...

            Precisely because such types of "specialists" were everywhere - and the USSR collapsed. They are not really capable of anything - they cannot prevent the putsch, neither isolate, neutralize, nor give the order ...
            It was the "specialists" who profiled like the USSR for no smell of tobacco
            Here are beautiful slogans to push and tongue-in-cheek with tongue - yes, they are masters, the political leaders did not work in vain
            1. Vasiliev Yu 10 August 2019 15: 44 New
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              As it was there, I do not know. But judging by your words, at least he had one courage. What is your candidate? Hopefully not a spire specialist?
    2. dirk182 9 August 2019 20: 09 New
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      That is, without the elite we will not be able to self-govern? Like we always need a drover, a tyrant, a king? It seems that the memory of Lomonosov is alive, and we are all somehow untenable in independence.
      1. Dart2027 9 August 2019 23: 12 New
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        Quote: dirk182
        That is, without the elite we will not be able to self-govern? Like we always need a drover, a tyrant, a king?

        If this were possible, then the state would be absent as such.
  • mark2 9 August 2019 18: 05 New
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    As I understand it, if the country has a non-national elite, then this is not a problem of the elite, but of the people. Who is to blame? Who rushed under the tanks in 1991 and who was already at them in 1993?
    Do not you all think that you have taken the position of an extreme hut. You don’t hit finger by finger, looking for a bunch of reasonable excuses, but at the same time you want something you yourself do not understand.
  • Campanella 9 August 2019 20: 17 New
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    So how can an anti-national elite flourish under a patriotic president?
  • nickname7 10 August 2019 11: 57 New
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    .antinational elite

    This is Kedmi put it politically correct, a more accurate term for the Roselite is the colonial administration.
  • MBRSS 11 August 2019 15: 29 New
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    Israeli statesman and diplomat Jacob Kedmi said that Russia's main problem is the anti-national elite.

    we’ll figure it out without foreigners. Let them wander from the Golan Heights to begin with.
  • Campanella 9 August 2019 16: 15 New
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    I agree with you. In my opinion, this suggests one thing: the authorities are not able to put the country's economy in order, which, in fact, is the main detonator of the opposition. And she (the authorities) had only to crush the opposition, which would lead to the radicalization of the protest movement.
  • Lipchanin 9 August 2019 18: 48 New
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    . Most likely the charges are unproven

    Hiley Likely laughing
    Infected? laughing
    Oh, this "Newbie" recourse
  • Mavrikiy 10 August 2019 13: 35 New
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    "Soak in the toilet" fifth column. 30 years we endure on the neck.
  • Digital error 10 August 2019 13: 39 New
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    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    Apparently, edro will steal and engage in the adoption of anti-people laws.

    I agree that there is nothing good with the defeat of FBK - now those who used to steal moderately will begin to steal cars and no one will make a movie about them on YouTube.
    they begin to treat traitors as traitors, and enemies as enemies

    Maybe a traitor (like a foreign hireman), but EXACTLY not an enemy. The state should take it on a salary and “clean the ranks” following the results of its investigations, thereby delaying the revolution and civil war, ensuring justice.
    Where is the rebuttal from Sergunina?
    Where is the suit for the protection of honor and dignity - if it is a lie?
    Instead, arrogant silence and, of course, "the machinations (and searches) of the enemies."
  • Plate 10 August 2019 18: 23 New
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    In my opinion there is nothing good in this. Most likely, the accusations are unproven and the state is very afraid of a real coup, as they understand that by their mediocre actions in all areas, they brought the country to a hilt.

    I think both sides are right. Both Bulk and the state. Bulk in his allegations of corruption. The state is accused of collaborating with Western comrades.
  • smart ass 11 August 2019 12: 48 New
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    There is nothing to rejoice at closing anyone, for anything
  • Sunstorm 11 August 2019 17: 03 New
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    Here, in principle, they wrote a case and I agree with something .. however
    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    Apparently, edro will steal and be engaged in the adoption of anti-people laws ..

    Quote: Underwater Hunter
    Most likely, the accusations are unproven and the state is very afraid of a real coup, as they understand that by their mediocre actions in all areas, they brought the country to a hilt.
    This is all propaganda in its purest form. For example, "anti-people" laws do not exist, because all laws are created in order to limit, organize the activities of people, therefore, absolutely any law can, if desired, be brought under "anti-people"For example, pedophilia is prohibited? This is an anti-people’s law for the“ great people of pedophiles. "As you can see, I have brought your concept to the point of absurdity, why? Because your concept is absurdity and propaganda.
  • Reklastik 12 August 2019 21: 50 New
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    Well, not for that Putin created the Rosguard to be afraid of a coup d'etat. They have not been afraid of anything for a long time.
  • Herman 4223 14 August 2019 15: 34 New
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    But where does this fund get money for maintenance? It’s ridiculous about donations, watch an informative TV commercial, a person with half a million donation subscribers cannot support a family, and here is a whole fund with thirty employees.
  • Shelest2000 9 August 2019 16: 46 New
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    "Echo" and "Rain" talk about the harsh detentions of "opposition" in protests, they do not know how in the city of Paris they detain "yellow vests".

    In Paris, they drove with dubbing and detained looters and arsonists, who provoked the tough actions of the French police.
    In our country, the disagreement of citizens on corruption and election fraud is initially considered to be a provocation. Yes, and any disagreement with the current government-a provocation and influence of the State Department. Ugh, God forgive me ...
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      Quote: Shelest2000
      In Paris, they drove with dubbing and detained looters and arsonists, who provoked the tough actions of the French police.
      In our country, the disagreement of citizens on corruption is initially considered

    2. dirk182 9 August 2019 20: 14 New
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      In addition, the requirements of the "yellow" coincided with the long-term requirements of the trade unions. And in the end, the government made concessions.
  • Lipchanin 9 August 2019 16: 58 New
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    Quote: Egorovich
    Jumped goat in the garden. Now it will be on a leash.

  • nickname7 10 August 2019 11: 32 New
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    But if the stolen money belongs to American taxpayers, then the FBI should investigate in theory.
  • dison 10 August 2019 17: 54 New
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    Well, this is unlikely, after Trampush himself put in a favor for him, no one will touch him.
  • rocket757 9 August 2019 15: 09 New
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    This is someone else itErEsno ???
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      Quote: rocket757
      This is someone else itErEsno ???

      And let's talk about horses, so I had an Alkhatekin girl ....
      1. rocket757 9 August 2019 18: 16 New
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        It’s funny, but it’s interesting!
        The joke is that when Alyosha was engaged in exposing corrupt officials, it was useful and interesting!
        As soon as he hit into another activity, in politics in particular, and bred the navalnyki brainless .... not smart, he became very useful to the authorities !!! Because in our coordinate system, changing some thieves to others is something that the real guys who own our country may well allow !!! Because it is NOT THREATENING THEM!
        Young people and others who do not think at all will lose their bearings and will be poked in guano, which will suck everything in the end.
        It’s useless to change the AWL for SOAP, but they don’t understand the other and they don’t have time to learn, they need to go to the crowd.
  • DenZ 9 August 2019 15: 09 New
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    Well, it’s time for a long time. To do what they must do. I hope to plant Alyosha for a long time.
    1. Vasiliev Yu 9 August 2019 15: 50 New
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      Well, yes, to plant him so that the people are no longer interested in why they don’t put those about whom he is from the main Kremlin bureaucrats and has gotten less scum.
      If there weren’t any, we wouldn’t know what scum our arbiters of fate in the Kremlin are.
      And these scum above did not try not to steal? Then they would not be dissatisfied with them, and no one would be able to rock the boat.
      And rightly so: Do ​​not rock the boat, our rats are sick !!!
      1. DenZ 9 August 2019 18: 26 New
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        Quote: Vasilyev u
        And rightly so: Do ​​not rock the boat, our rats are sick !!!

        Not only rats are sick. The fact that Navalny is driving a wave of indignation by supporting her and cherishing, is clearly done with the support of our "probable friends", so I just can not agree that Navalny is an unconditional good. The truth is somewhere in the middle and Navalny is in many ways wrong, and our authorities are not ideal either. But since power is power, it has the right to show power, which it did (and did it right, it had no other choice because the strongest were winning).
        1. Vasiliev Yu 10 August 2019 05: 47 New
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          But since power is power, it has the right to show power, which it did (and did it right, it had no other choice because the strongest were winning).

          Your logic is strange. You and her could well have been a lawyer with the Nazis in Nuremberg. After all, they were the authorities and they had no other choice. And you can remember and justify Pinochet.
          1. your1970 10 August 2019 14: 39 New
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            Quote: Vasilyev u
            And you can remember Pinochet and justify.
            And with Pinochet, you are more careful. There are nuances
            "In 1978, the dictator spent nationwide referendum on self-confidencehaving received in their support 75% of the vote. "
            1. Vasiliev Yu 10 August 2019 15: 50 New
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              I didn’t know, it’s quite possible you’re right, so I won’t argue.
              It will be freer over time, it will be necessary to read about it. Thank you for writing.
    2. Pilat2009 9 August 2019 16: 10 New
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      Quote: DenZ
      I hope to plant Alyosha for a long time.

      Hopefully the queue someday will come
      1. DenZ 9 August 2019 18: 29 New
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        Quote: Pilat2009
        Hopefully the queue someday will come

        Just don’t say that you feel sick if I give an example to stop the hundredth time of our neighbor, Ukraine. We will be much worse.
    3. Campanella 9 August 2019 16: 17 New
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      You might think that the main trouble of Russia in Navalny.
      Here everything will be like in a fairy tale, instead of one head, three will grow!
    4. Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 26 New
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      Plant something to sit. It would only be good, at first to refute the evidence, to investigate it. And then, after all, it can turn out badly: at the very top they are smeared and cover each other. And you, lackeys, stay there, good mood to you, while Effective managers are tearing the country apart and ruining the economy. It’s good for them: on a private plane and somewhere to Italy, closer to their real estate and vineyards
      1. JIaIIoTb 9 August 2019 17: 27 New
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        Quote: Ursus
        Plant something to sit. It would only be good, at first to refute the evidence, to investigate it. And then, after all, it can turn out badly: at the very top they are smeared and cover each other. And you, lackeys, stay there, good mood to you, while Effective managers are tearing the country apart and ruining the economy. It’s good for them: on a private plane and somewhere to Italy, closer to their real estate and vineyards

        On the one hand, you set out correctly. But. With all this, despite the fact that Navalny writes and says the right things about corruption, he sets himself the goal of not defeating corruption as such, but stupidly go to power on a wave of hype. This is scary. The terrible thing is that people do not think about his true goals and motives and follow him. Financing from abroad clearly proves that it does not work for Russia. He is an enemy, a well-trained enemy in the west, like those who follow him, understanding why. Sorry for those who do not understand. They come from well-meaning.
        1. Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 42 New
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          This is all clear. I’m just not for Navalny. I am against lawlessness.
        2. Vasiliev Yu 9 August 2019 18: 37 New
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          That is, still bulk to blame? Not those who steal in the billions, but he, because he talks about it and hype against the bureaucrats on popular anger?
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          Quote: JIaIIoTb
          Financing from abroad clearly proves that it does not work for Russia


          Maybe you’ll name the (real) opposition that is financed domestically? I am sure that you will not find anyone inside the country who would be ready to compete for power .... and if so, the source of money can only be from outside. I do not deny that financing from abroad has its own goals, but there will be no domestic financing within the country ..... that is, the state (the current government) has a monopoly on power, and it simply does not digest the opposition, but all sorts of Communist Party, The LDPR is another branch of government whose task it is to create the appearance of the opposition and offer citizens a (supposedly) choice, but in fact it is not.
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        At DAM and in Crimea their
    5. rocket757 9 August 2019 18: 27 New
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      Quote: DenZ
      Well, it’s time for a long time. To do what they must do. I hope to plant Alyosha for a long time.

      SO WHAT? They will make him a martyr and idol of many brainless ... not very smart.
      For any public, only two things are dangerous, except for the kirdyk full, of course, the shob was FORGOTTEN and the shob was laughed at, left in the cold .... so ours, very "smart" with the authorities, are simply not capable of it .... with gray matter they seem to be tense and this can only push!
      The quality of the leading, organizing contingent is lower .... I don’t know where it is much lower.
      Now it’s all ... and Alyosha’s diligent / domineering dunduks will be raised to the shield! Could immediately drive the armored cars .... and push them, I won’t be surprised at all, already!
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      Quote: DenZ
      I hope to plant Alyosha for a long time

      unless the State Department makes a sacred sacrifice from him, like Nemtsov
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      Quote: DenZ
      I hope to plant Alyosha for a long time.

      And then the country will be in full order. Officials will stop stealing, prices will fall, the country will stop dying out, they will stop begging for the treatment of dying children from the TV ... It's all because of him, the goat provocateur-liberal Oval!
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    Medvedev replied: “We did not accept [indexation] at all. Just no money now. Find the money - do the indexing. You stay here, you all the best, good mood and health ”

    Bulk, bulk ...
    "The fish rots from the head".
    Folk wisdom
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      Quote: Amateur
      Bulk, bulk ...
      "The fish rots from the head".
      Folk wisdom

      Quote: Putin
      prime should be crystal clear, no bills abroad

      Quote: Medvedev
      chooooo ??
  • MBRSS 9 August 2019 15: 10 New
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    Sorry if Navalny slam. Because "for something in the pond and pike, so that snickering crucian carp (current authorities) would not doze off."
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      Sorry if Navalny slam.

      Aha laughing
    2. Mestny 9 August 2019 15: 39 New
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      Is it like "thieves, so that the rest would look at things"?
      Iron logic.
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      Quote: MBRBS
      Sorry if Navalny slam.

      Pity on
  • Whispering in the night 9 August 2019 15: 20 New
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    Put to hell! And not only Navalny, but the whole top of FBK!
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      But EP is not necessary there too?
    2. Vasiliev Yu 9 August 2019 15: 54 New
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      Correctly, and with them all dissatisfied.
      Beauty will be: half of the country sits, the rest half protects them.
    3. Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 30 New
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      This is just not for long. Just a question: will VAT go down? Will raising the retirement age be canceled? The buck will be on 35 (at least), gasoline on 19, and salaries and prices as in 2007-08?
    4. Campanella 9 August 2019 16: 33 New
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      Somehow it's not right, this. Customers and sponsors should be called to account too. And then all the colleagues are partners ...
      1. Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 44 New
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        nizzya bite the hand that feeds;)
        Elvira is ours, not that she did not fall under sanctions, but she was awarded more than once, in the very, that is, the den of the enemy, an enemy medal. It does an excellent job, you see, once the enemies (sorry, partners) have noted.
  • for
    for 9 August 2019 15: 27 New
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    And when the end of special projects Fund cap. repair, retirement fund, etc .. Almost the trash fund, etc.
    1. Campanella 9 August 2019 17: 56 New
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      It’s their job to reform everything
      that comes to hand. They don’t want to retire.
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      Quote: for
      Fund cap repair
      -How infuriates me YOUR "overhaul" and squeals about him ....
      I have a private house - I can sell / donate / exchange it, you can also sell / donate / exchange an apartment
      Only here is the trouble - when my roof leaks - not one ................ will make me a repair for free. I have to myself- look for money (and a lot), hire an employee and repair it.
      You for pleasure NOT To do all this, you have to pay 200-300 rubles per month. I am ready to pay 1000-2000 per month - if only when the time comes, also not to do this, but alas ...
      Accumulations do not offer - the cost of repair is more than I put down for 10 years
      And no one cares, and you can’t complain to the prosecutor’s office, and go to court to no purpose - “repair your house yourself” ....
      and here’s how the apartments are so hysterical - "Money for the overhaul is being torn, ahhh !!!"
      The coolest thing here in our city is quite a real repair of roofs, foundations, sewers spend from that money
      Hysterical squeals about overhaul have already been pulled up ... Would have forced you to give thousands of 150 for roof repairs to begin with ...
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        how YOUR "overhaul" infuriates me and squeals about him ....


        And so you decided to poke about the hard fate of the owner of a private house?
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          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Quote: your1970
          how YOUR "overhaul" infuriates me and squeals about him ....


          And so you decided to poke about the hard fate of the owner of a private house?
          - Absolutely not !!! I have a normal fate - unlike residents in high-rise chicken coops !!!
          It is they who are always tormented by a heavy share - either the hot water will be turned off, nowhere to park, the roof will leak, the neighbors will flood, the neighbors will need money, the elevator will get stuck, then the dogs in the sandbox will get dirty ....
          here they are poor and screech all over the country - how hard they live .....
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            It is they who are always tormented by a heavy share - either the hot water will be turned off, nowhere to park, the roof will leak, the neighbors will flood, the neighbors will need money, the elevator will get stuck, then the dogs in the sandbox will get dirty ....

            And in your opinion all this must be endured steadily and not be indignant?
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              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              Quote: your1970
              It is they who are always tormented by a heavy share - either the hot water will be turned off, nowhere to park, the roof will leak, the neighbors will flood, the neighbors will need money, the elevator will get stuck, then the dogs in the sandbox will get dirty ....

              And in your opinion all this must be endured steadily and not be indignant?
              - Do not tolerate and resent - your right ...

              The countryside looks at the urban tantrums - "ahhh !!! they turned off the hot water for the day !!!!!" and he thinks: "They got into the city !!! We have no water last year, we have to carry it in cans !!!!"
              It is this word - "Snickering !!" will be the reason that the village will never support anyone like Navalny
              ZY In addition, he and others like him NOTHING do not promise the village ... do not even promise .....
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                It is this word - "Snickering !!"

                That is, the urban need to live poorly, without water and electricity, and then it will be right?
                And sit silently, like village slaves and wait for mercy from the good gentleman?
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                  And sit silently like a village slaves and wait for mercy from the good gentleman?
                  Well, you yourself understood how urban refer to rural....
                  don't be surprised at the reverse ...
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                    Well, you yourself understand how urban relate to rural ....

                    You do not take the conversation aside. Although the answer, I obviously can not wait. The village demagogue is expected to merge.
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                      You do not take the conversation aside. Although the answer, I obviously can not wait.
                      I answered you much earlier
                      Quote: your1970
                      And in your opinion all this must be endured steadily and not be indignant?
                      - do not tolerate and resent - your right ...


                      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                      The village demagogue is expected to merge.
                      -And this is quite expected, do not read the opponent, do not try to understand it, stick labels immediately ("Serfs, demagogue"), do not try to argue and refute the opponent’s arguments - but immediately turn to personalities, and so on ....
                      In general, a classic of Russian liberalism .......

                      Z.Y. I fully approve the actions of the Chinese Government in Tiananmen Square
                      Especially if everything was as described:
                      "....... Reuters news agency reporter Graham Earnshaw, who spent the night of 3 on 4 in June in the center of Tiananmen Square and the only Western journalist to observe the entire operation from the square, writes in his memoirs that there’s no massacre there It was."
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    for 9 August 2019 15: 36 New
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    In simple terms, Western "democracy" is the democrats' divorce of suckers wholesale and retail under the leadership of the American ambassador. Even in Germany, the US ambassador is teaching "democracy" to the natives there. This is also a well-paid job for functionary democrats.

    Our democracy is the most democratic.
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    If Nabal is closed, they will have to endure the squeals and gallops of world and their own liberalism, as well as the introduction of the 14th package of sanctions. But nothing, not the first time. Survived and not like that. Let’s laugh at their screeches. tongue
    1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 15: 50 New
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      and the introduction of the 14th sanctions package. But nothing, not the first time. Survived and not like that.

      You can laugh as much as you like. just count for yourself - what and how much we lost from the sanctions. No, Polish shrimp with apples does not count, parmesan too. Machine tools, technologies, software for machines ...
      Left-hander remember? "And they clean our bricks!" - here we go.
      We massively need machines, software for them, equipment - but it is NOT. that’s the whole story.
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        And now what? We will continue to endure this nits for the sake of machines, technologies, etc., which we, we must understand, are not selling right now?
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        No wonder there is a saying, "Do not touch the poop, it will stink." But this does not mean at all that poop cannot be removed. Occupation is not the most pleasant, but it is necessary to do. And since barrels of tar can not be avoided, we must try to find a spoonful of honey in it.
      3. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 16: 45 New
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        We massively need machines, software for them, equipment - but it is NOT. that’s the whole story.

        And therefore it is necessary to become in a "pose of the laundress"?
        Who to humiliate? Who sleeps and sees how to destroy Russia?
        1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 07 New
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          And therefore it is necessary to become in a "pose of the laundress"?
          Who to humiliate? Who sleeps and sees how to destroy Russia?

          So. Where did I write that I need to get up in the pose you described? Proofs in the studio.
          To belittle? And what do you think our “ilites” are doing, who have been asking for loans in the West? Those. this, in your opinion, is not humiliation? When for the “handshake” there, did our efficient managers merge the industry here?
          Regarding "Destroy Russia," I don’t even want to comment.
          To convey to you my thought, I’ll say easier. I had a chance to visit the GOZ "Obukhov plants". Who they are and what they do - google yourself, not you little ones. So here. The machining center of the Ivanovo plant stood there. And next to it is exactly the same, but Chinese. So here. Kitaychatina worked with PPR once a month, but the products of Ivanovo machine tool industry required 16 hours of commissioning for the sake of 8 hours of work. This is HUMILIATION.
          Well, the topic of the article. No, I do not "drown" for Navalny. I am "drowning" against EdRa, in particular, against economic policy in relation to my own people.
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          And therefore it is necessary to become in a "pose of the laundress"?
          Who to humiliate? Who sleeps and sees how to destroy Russia?
          -Stalin got up in this pose - when
          England bought jet engines for airplanes? Or not?
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        How long is an article about import substitution to be published? The most important thing to put in bulk. Hydra entakuyu. And the end to the liberals. Clamp and have.
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          And the end to the liberals. Clamp and have.

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            You are throwing this picture about OMON in each branch. Is it dry with fantasy? Ask the training manual to update. Remind the troll from OK.
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              You are throwing this picture about OMON in each branch.

              And you lick in every branch of a landslide.
              Is it dry with fantasy?

              Why bother with language if I agree with each letter.
              Ask the training manual to update.

              Only after you
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              You are throwing this picture about OMON in each branch.

              Are there any objections?
          2. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 10 New
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            The author of what you have in blue - this is a typical "hangman" who sits in a "warm" place, but put in conditions where you need not "boltological work", but really work hard - then we'll see how he " will sing. "
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      Tomorrow we will see an interesting movie ...


      On August 10 on Sakharov Avenue in Moscow, an authorized rally will be held against the non-admission of opposition candidates before the elections to the Moscow City Duma.
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        I believe that it will not be interesting. Is that personally Leshik will come and lead everyone to storm the riot police. And since the action is agreed tomorrow, it will end with the fact that "they came, chatted, dispersed."
        Although some provocations are not excluded.
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      But nothing, not the first time. Survived and not that. Let's laugh at their squeals

      The economy is barely breathing and you want to see the hunt? Gas, KAMAZ AND SOLLERS, in connection with the sanctions, asked the government for 150 billion rubles to start production of components since suppliers don’t want to work with them. It will only get worse, and we chuckle
      1. Sergey M. Karasev 9 August 2019 16: 58 New
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        Horrible!!!! Can Nabal choose dictators for us to remove the sanctions? What the hell! Let's try! For reliability, we’ll disperse the army, return the Crimea to Khokhlov, and at the same time add them the Kuban, Kursk, Belgorod, Voronezh, and then point by point. At the same time, we will present nuclear weapons as moral compensation. We will leave Syria at the mercy of the barmaleys and mattresses. Excess mouths who are not busy on the pipe and wells are euthanized!
        BUT THE SANCTIONS CANCELED !!! May be...
        1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 14 New
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          Can Nabal choose dictators for us to remove the sanctions?

          BUT SANCTIONS CANCELED !!!

          I see that you are from the sect "Witnesses of Good Deeds of EP and Putin"?
          Navalny can not apply for any of the posts in the Russian Federation, because he is so "smeared" by communication with the embassy of a certain country, which some call a "partner". So there is no need to "agitate for Soviet power." Do not look beautiful.
          As for the sanctions. Personally, I am violet on personal sanctions, but sanctions against enterprises - yes, it is advisable to remove it. Or, again, start to “vote” all nonsense?
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            but sanctions against enterprises - yes, it is advisable to lift it. Or, again, start to “vote” all nonsense?
            -at what year abolished the Jackson-Vanik sanctions imposed by the USA against the USSR for banning the departure of Jews? remind me please ... there is a feeling - that it was not the Jews at that time, it was not about them ....
      2. dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 29 New
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        Oreshkin said that the bubble (economy) will burst soon. Then they hastened to shut up. We are going to this. People simply have nothing to repay loan debts. And this is not from their reluctance. And from the characteristics of the national economy. Banks will beg the government for this business. So the money will flow out of the country again
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          People simply have nothing to repay loan debts. And this is not from their reluctance

          They handed these loans to people with a gun at their temple, yeah yes
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            It's not about that. It's about something else. In a normal state does not change EVERY YEAR tax burden. And we have? Every six months of reform. In our tax code, roughly 1700 pages. And there is nothing clear in it. People take a loan, because they understand that they are not able to accumulate the required amounts + the need for a particular “product” at the moment. This year in Russia 58000 enterprises of medium and small business were closed. This is not an indicator? Everything is interconnected.
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              People take out a loan, because they understand that they are not able to accumulate the required amounts + the need for a particular “product” at the moment

              They can’t save, but they can buy with overpayment + interest - can they? Unbend and do not bend anymore ...

              Quote: dirk182
              Everything is interconnected

              Well yes ... because the earth is round.

              I repeat the question: people, when they took loans - what did they think? And do not talk about the "tax burden", for a year or two it doesn’t change so dramatically request
              1. dirk182 9 August 2019 19: 02 New
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                Does not change? That is, the price of excise taxes (gasoline, cigarettes), VAT, garbage reform, etc. do not affect your wallet?
                Yes, imagine. What's better? Save up for an apartment for example 10 years, renting a house and giving money for someone else's apartment? Or take a mortgage?
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              Quote: dirk182
              People take a loan, because they understand that they are not able to accumulate the required amounts + the need for a particular “product” at the moment.

              If possible, then about the "product" in more detail.
              So they can’t save by saving, but is it easy to pay a loan with interest?
              When I borrow money from my neighbors, I always think before that whether I can repay it on time or not. If it does not work out purely theoretically, I do not take it as a loan.
              I needed a laptop. I calculated how long to take a loan. How much to pay for it every month. It turned out that I’ll master it. I took it, bought a new laptop. I give and do not whine and do not blame anyone that I had to take a loan
              1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 19 New
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                So they can’t save by saving, but is it easy to pay a loan with interest?

                I needed a laptop. I calculated how long to take a loan. How much to pay for it every month. It turned out that I’ll master it. I took it, bought a new laptop.

                And now we will remove the word “laptop” from your post (as for the “product” in more detail) and insert the word “apartment” (a car, a country house, enter it yourself) instead. AND suddenly you get fired from work.
                In general, they wrote nonsense.
                1. Cat man null 9 August 2019 22: 38 New
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                  ... suddenly you get fired from work ...

                  So, my friend ... in such "long" cases, like buying an apartment, risk analysis is the first thing.

                  As they say - do not drive at a speed exceeding the speed of your guardian angel wink
                  1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 42 New
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                    in such "long" cases, like buying an apartment, risk analysis is the first thing.

                    The point is not whether you are buying an apartment or something else. The bottom line is that a “risk assessment” is generally important and necessary, but nobody in our state (and in others, too) is safe from force majeure. With loans, the whole question is: managed to slip through or not.
                    Even if you just bought a refrigerator on credit, and suddenly lost your source of income, it’s already bad.
                    Well, if you want to lose his cook - you want, I'll take off a photo of the local factory newspaper. There is a very interesting article in which one of the directors joyfully reports that by the end of the year they will "optimize" 344 people from the plant.
                    1. Cat man null 9 August 2019 22: 51 New
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                      no one is safe from force majeure in our country (and in others too)

                      Yeah. That's why I say - you need to think first of all with your head, keep options in this head ... not the most optimistic, at least.

                      You make the decision yourself - you are responsible for it. Everything is fair request

                      Quote: Honest Citizen
                      With loans, the whole question is: managed to slip through or not

                      This is unscientific laughing
                      1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 57 New
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                        You make the decision yourself - you are responsible for it. Everything is fair

                        That's all, but not all ... In Moscow, for example, on minibuses, there are just a lot of stickers about LokoBank and its loans. Often, contextual advertising also dumps them. Mortgage Offers ... Why am I saying this? Yes, people are simply “seduced” by loans. And advertising has a side effect - it sometimes turns off the brain. This, of course, does not exclude the assessment of the degree of risk, but "you are being pushed to this risk."
                        This is unscientific

                        But objectively.
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                        Quote: Honest Citizen
                        advertising has a side effect - it sometimes turns off the brain

                        Not everyone wink

                        Quote: Honest Citizen
                        people are simply “seduced” by loans

                        Yeah ... and still half-dressed, sometimes walking down the street - they also seduce ... so what?

                        Quote: Honest Citizen
                        pushing you to this risk

                        You will be screwed - but you do not steal (s). Once again - he took the loan himself, and get out. And everything else is the cry of Yaroslavna request
                      3. IS-80_RVGK2 11 August 2019 01: 12 New
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                        Once again - he took the loan himself, and get out.

                        The correct market approach. True, if tomorrow someone on the head gives you a comrade with the same rosy approach in order to change your financial situation, do not be offended and do not call the police to help. Each for itself and business and nothing personal. laughing
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                        The right market approach

                        Not a "lynx", vital. You must answer for your actions. Called cargo - do not stand under the boom, such as yes

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        if any friend gives you a head tomorrow with the same rosy approach

                        Owl pull please. It’s right to answer for oneself, gop-stop is wrong. And you cannot equate these two things to each other by any “snobbishness” wink

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Every man for himself and business and nothing personal

                        You must be able to troll. Not you can know how - do not handle (s) request
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                        Not a "lynx", vital.

                        Yes Yes. These are unrelated things. Especially considering the fact that the economy is the basis. bully
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You must answer for your actions.

                        Or not. If you have money and power.
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        It’s right to answer for oneself, gop-stop is wrong.

                        Come on, come on. Let me sit comfortably and listen to your tales about morality and other ethics, apparently the time has come for kotolampovye stories. laughing
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        And you cannot equate these two things to each other by any “lynx”

                        I see the ryoshnik do not like the side effects of rynnosti. Well, that’s what he called a groomer, don’t say that he’s not a dozen. laughing
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You must be able to troll. Do not know how - do not handle (s)

                        As our Jewish comrades who fit into the market say, you are simply envious. bully
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                        IS-80_RVGK2

                        Man, why all this lace? The masses will not appreciate, you won’t get surprised at me ... and why would it all seem to be? wink

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        scaffold

                        You yourself ... this word laughing

                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Let me sit back and listen ...

                        Settle down, listen. And while I'm going to the horizontal, time, mode ... walk the dog in the morning, again zhezh request
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                        Man, why all this lace?

                        Taki, first of all I'm bored. Secondly, I look at erpeshniki slowly began to break away from the people. And I am extremely worried that, in the words of the classics of Mraxism, they will become "very scared far from the people." smile
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        You yourself ... this word

                        Well, ok, russish burgher. bully
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Settle down, listen. And while I'm going to the horizontal, time, mode ... walk the dog in the morning, again zhezh

                        Well, here, in the most interesting place. negative
          2. dirk182 10 August 2019 09: 49 New
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            By your arguments you have changed the economic situation in the country. Bravo!) People revered you and stopped taking loans
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    "US citizens, as well as individuals who reside permanently in the United States, pay the following taxes:
    income tax, which is divided into federal (from 10 to 35%), state tax and local tax. In this case, the amount of state tax and local tax paid is a federal deduction
    inheritance and gift taxes (from 18 to 50% - federal tax, state authorities also have the right to establish an additional state tax on inheritance). These taxes have a non-taxable minimum, as well as a progressive scale. Take into account the degree of kinship.
    contributions to social insurance funds (7,65% of employees)
    property tax (1 — 2,5%)
    In general, from his salary, the employee pays from 17,65 to 42,65% minus deductions.
    A feature of taxation of individuals in the United States is the fact that the tax on personal income is paid on income received in any country in the world by all US citizens, including non-residents. Moreover, if a citizen renounces US citizenship, then 10 years (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) thereafter he remains a payer of income tax to the US budget. "
    Quote: dirk182
    This year in Russia 58000 enterprises of medium and small business were closed. This is not an indicator? Everything is interconnected.
    - but they didn’t close because it’s so scary for them to get money. It’s easier - individuals have practically zero responsibility
    For example, here farmers, for example, farmers of the peasant farms closed up and are engaged in land as physicists. And the state can’t influence them in any way. They pay taxes on the land and they can’t complain about them. but no use
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    They handed these loans to people with a gun at their temple, yeah

    Took a loaf of bread and a mug of milk recourse
    And it turned out "Merce" bought the latest model
    1. dirk182 9 August 2019 19: 54 New
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      Are you from another planet ??? The man’s refrigerator broke. Does he have to put off three months? What salaries do we have that allow you to make instant purchases? Listen to you, so you are all so right. You do not live in debt; you do not scare power. Just such a sort of pattern
      1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 21: 58 New
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        The man’s refrigerator broke. Does he have to put off three months?

        Do not distort.
        We are talking about loans that are not taken on bread with a cup of milk.
        We are talking about loans for cars, furniture, cottages, etc. About loans for those things without which it is quite possible to live for some time.
        What salaries do we have that allow you to make instant purchases?

        Does the world have salaries for which you can immediately buy a car?
        Listen to you, so you are all so right. Do not live in debt

        And I take a loan and pay a loan. And I do not whine, because I know what I take and what I will give.
        And there are not a few like me. In any case, among acquaintances there is no one who forcibly loaned credit. They took it after calculating loan payment options
        1. dirk182 10 August 2019 09: 48 New
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          Well, not noisy. Oreshkina, listen. He has OBJECTIVE data, not Your personal confusion. You can even lay your bones here, but you won’t change his words.
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    Gas, KAMAZ AND SOLLERS in connection with the sanctions requested from the government 150 billion rubles in order to establish the production of component parts; suppliers do not want to work with them.

    That's good! For a long time it was necessary to switch to self-sufficiency! There was no sadness, but need forced.
    Essentially, it will be good if they find money for them, and they spend it correctly.
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      And for what purpose then mechanical engineering and instrumentation ruined ??? So that now for these purposes the people's money to spend? I do not see the logic
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        [quote] [So that now for these purposes the people's money to spend? / quote]
        And have to! Or is there another option? The new October socialist revolution is not an option. It is good to dream about it loudly on the Internet, but in practice there are no prerequisites for it, because no real communist party. If a revolution happens, it’s not socialist in any way, and we won’t get better from it.
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          Sergey, I agree. The revolution is dangerous. She threatens to destroy the country. But we should unite. To defend their interests and rights in a legal way. We are weak one by one. And we do not need to swear here. And I think to think. Some kind of solution. Do not swear or share.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev 9 August 2019 18: 38 New
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            Denis, all this is true. But first you need to find like-minded people, come to a common opinion about their common interests and the priority in upholding them, i.e. choose a common ideology and program, that is, create a new party. And then already
            to defend their interests and rights in a legal way.

            And the authorities are absolutely not interested in this and Big Brother is not sleeping. request
            But first you need to decide what exactly we need and how this can be achieved legally.
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            To defend their interests and rights in a legal way.

            Gold words. good
            It is legal, but not the one that rehearsed on the Maidan, and now they are trying to impose us with the help of landslides.
            And we do not need to swear here. And I think to think. Some kind of solution. Do not swear or share.

            And in this one hundred percent agree
            1. dirk182 9 August 2019 19: 56 New
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              Well, at least in some ways we agree!) I'm glad. And Sergei correctly said: "we need to decide what we need."
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            . The revolution is dangerous.

            The fall of the asteroid is also dangerous, but the probability of this is very small, it is not worth panicking.
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          . If a revolution happens

          You are not afraid of revolution. First, large-scale phosphor majors must happen, (war, the fall of a comet, an epidemic) leading to the collapse of the state, and then the state is reassembling, with the struggle of factions, for power, with the old or new system. The revolution is the last stage of the collapse and assembly of the country. For example, the RII collapsed after: - war, economic crisis, famine, coup. If there had not been 1, 2 wars, now Nkolay 5 would have sat on the throne.
          Russia is strong today, there will be no revolutions.
      2. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 19: 12 New
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        And for what purpose then mechanical engineering and instrumentation ruined ??

        First you ask yourself who and when it all began to destroy
        1. Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 22: 22 New
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          First you ask yourself who and when it all began to destroy

          Well, you logically continue the question. And with whom did they “kill” all this? Who prevented someone who has been in power for almost 20 years from recovering? Or didn’t he need it? We will sell oil, gas, timber - will we buy ourselves on the prodigy wafer and “panama”?
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          Why answer here? Dignity dwarfs decided that now they are like all capitalists and they do not need anything, because they, with their gas, metal, oil and forest, have integrated themselves into the world market.
          But suddenly, other capitalists smeared their snot on their faces. And it turned out that life is not so simple as Sobchak’s fosterling thinks about it.
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    And a quarter of the people, which are below the poverty line, also need to laugh?
    I’m not funny about Putin’s power, and I’m not a supporter of Navalny. But I can definitely say that the current government is overwhelmed.
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      Do you propose to mourn over the sad fate of Nabal? Over the hill we won’t be asked when they will impose sanctions. And the UK will not ask us when Nabal decides to close. so rejoice at what is. They didn’t bring another. request
    2. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 30 New
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      And a quarter of the people, which are below the poverty line, also need to laugh?

      Where does this data come from?
      Are there beggars among your relatives, friends, acquaintances?
      Just don’t tell me that someone on the network told you about acquaintances of your acquaintances whom other acquaintances told
      1. Campanella 9 August 2019 20: 01 New
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        Yes, I myself save on everything!
        1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 22: 01 New
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          Quote: Campanella
          Yes, I myself save on everything!

          And is Putin to blame?
          Can’t you find a part-time job?
          Maybe ask this boy?
          1. Campanella 10 August 2019 11: 17 New
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            Well, firstly, I’m not 12 years old, but for 60. And I have already worked more than 42 years, this is an official experience.
            And your esteemed Putin has deprived me of a secured old age, I’m not even talking about diseases. I see everything ahead of you and you will be able to realize your advice in time.
            1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 11: 35 New
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              Quote: Campanella
              Well, firstly, I’m not 12 years old, but for 60

              That is, the year of birth is at least 1959. Or less. Remember yes

              Quote: Campanella
              your esteemed Putin deprived me of a secured old age

              Man, you are confusing something. If you were born before 1959, the changes in your retirement age do not concern you at all. If in the first half of 1959, you have less than six months left before retirement.

              Well, either you are not "for 60" request

              1. Campanella 10 August 2019 12: 04 New
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                What to remember, then I’m 1959 of the year of production? 2 years ago, the humanist capitalist cut me right before retirement. But then a friend of Vova, with a surplus budget, decided to save some money and carried out a pension reform quickly, saying that they began to live for a long time.
                And so I hit. Neither salary nor pension. And most importantly, there is no promised health either, I will not list the sores.
                This is our president, devotes the lion's share of the time to his health, we do not have such an opportunity. (Here the information was the English delegation went for three hours to Putin, he swam in the pool)
                He interrupted as best he could with temporary work, got on the stock exchange, received 3500 rubles of help for six months. Six months because the law is.
                He did not receive the assistance promised by Putin in 11200, since the authorities did everything possible so that no one would receive it, everyone ran to the stock exchange, and they were sent on the basis of the regulation on the procedure for receiving increased benefits.
                In short, my school friend has had a stroke in 60 for years, I have not received a pension yet, I am waiting for the end of the six-month prolongation.
                If you look closely at the statistics, people are dying out quite actively without waiting for the retirement age specified by the president of Russia.
                So apart from a feeling of "deep gratitude" to President Putin, I have nothing. It is possible that I am a statistical error in the master plan of the helmsman, maybe so. But it doesn’t make me feel better. And good luck to you, now it’s not bad for you, but this does not mean that you will always be fine. But when you feel bad, then you will perceive the "creativity" of the people whom you have given power differently.
                1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 13: 00 New
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                  Now you feel good, but that does not mean that you will always be fine. But when you feel bad

                  And where did you get the idea that "I'm fine now"? I’m just not accustomed to whining, but accustomed, like that frog in a krynka with milk - paws, paws ...

                  Everything that you described, I went through ten years ago. And without work, and not get a job (kind people took care .. two years interrupted from bread to kvass). We will not measure sores, with your permission, of course wink

                  Quote: Campanella
                  you will perceive differently the "creativity" of the people whom you have allocated power

                  I just don't give a damn about this "creativity". You don’t whine when it's damp outside? Here you go. And I refer these "creative people" to the same (unpleasant) natural phenomena, like wind, rain, hail and stones from the sky laughing

                  And all request
                  1. Campanella 10 August 2019 15: 34 New
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                    If you notice, I answered your question. If you take it as a whining, it is your right! I am glad that you are heroically overcoming life's difficulties. Good luck.
                    I believe that my comments are not nagging, but a statement of facts as I see them.
                    Power has shown itself in my opinion, in the most unworthy way. At the same time, I am not a supporter of tough approaches, but if a sheep remains a sheep, then in the end it goes to barbecue.
                    The fact that you perceive power as a natural disaster with which your choice is not worth fighting.
                    I consider my civil right to change the power, which does not correspond to my ideas about it.
                    1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 15: 56 New
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                      Quote: Campanella
                      If you take it as a nag, it's your right

                      Ok, take back the "whining". We call it your vision of the situation)))

                      Quote: Campanella
                      I consider my civil right to change a power that does not correspond to my ideas about it

                      If you think that you will change your power, ahem ... by setting forth your thoughts on the Internet - you, IMHO, are greatly mistaken.

                      For example, I have a pair of ships won against local authorities. Not because I love the process, and not because I have a lot of free time (it was not much, but 15 years ago it was not at all), but because when they try to pinch me, I snap myself.

                      And this, you see, is more productive than just, ahem, writing on the Internet wink
                    2. Campanella 10 August 2019 16: 29 New
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                      I'm not as passionate as you. I consider my vote, plus criticism of the authorities for their mistakes, again my vision of problems, this is my main arsenal. Something I did at work at one time helping people, but these are trifles.
                      As a young man, of course, I was more active and was noted for standing at the White House in 1991, which I regretted very much later. However, my non-participation would not change anything. The Brezhnev-Gorbachev era also showed its “ram”, for which we paid.
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                  Underwater hunter 10 August 2019 21: 37 New
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                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Everything that you described, I went through ten years ago. And without work, and not get a job (kind people took care .. two years interrupted from bread to kvass).
                  Ah, I’m lying, it’s not good ... Two years ago, I remember you were without work, your friends borrowed money from you, your wife left .. I have a good memory, but now I’ve been watching 10 years ago ... if the time is flying like this, your roofing legend forgotten by you?
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  I just don't give a damn about this "creativity". You don’t whine when it's damp outside?

                  You leave this mantra with nagging already .. change the training manual. It doesn’t look too respectful, which means it is clumsy. People do not whine, but objectively assess the situation, and you try to make them whiners .. If the ship goes to the bottom, the only sailor, shouts with a bang! Who do you think he looks like? To the madman! So you in this situation, like a madman, or a person who receives money for his informational work.
                  1. Cat man null 11 August 2019 00: 03 New
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                    Two years ago, I remember you were without work, your friends borrowed money from you, your wife left .. I have a good memory

                    Leaving your memory buddy request

                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    you are in this situation, like a madman

                    Svarog, you "in this situation" definitely look like a paid Internet troll. Suggest to listen to you? Do I really look so crazy? belay

                    But in general, IMHO, in vain you started this conversation ... what, so much bake? wink

                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    or for a person who receives money for their information

                    Almost guessed. I am engaged in information systems. And I really get paid for it.

                    But my work between our partners here is - well, not sideways, here, in VO, I rest my soul laughing
                3. IS-80_RVGK2 10 August 2019 23: 48 New
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                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  And I attribute these "creative people" to the same (unpleasant) natural phenomena, like wind, rain, hail and stones from the sky

                  Well, what can I say. Each stupid person in his own way. You like this. laughing
  • parusnik 9 August 2019 15: 42 New
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    M. Kasyanov, it seems they will not touch, like the Echo of Moscow and Rain ... But Navalny did not justify the trust ...
  • Honest Citizen 9 August 2019 15: 43 New
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    American analyst Paul Craig Roberts once wrote:
    “Russia is waiting for Putin to stand up for the country, stop treating Western countries as partners, when it is obvious that the West is the enemy of Russia. The West is financing traitors who work tirelessly to undermine Russia with Western money. ”


    This time is coming, says the Investigative Committee as a consequence of laundering 1 billion rubles of FBK Navalny: they begin to treat traitors as traitors, and as enemies as enemies.

    Medvedev, Sechin, Miller, Yakunin, on the same list? who are the enemies of the people?
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      Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 15: 46 New
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      Quote: Honest Citizen
      Medvedev, Sechin, Miller, Yakunin, on the same list? who are the enemies of the people?

      These are America's best friends ..
      1. vasilii 9 August 2019 16: 42 New
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        The main problem of patriotic political analytics in Russia is that behind everything they immediately begin to see America. Yakunin, if anything, under sanctions from 2014 of the year.
        1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 33 New
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          Quote: vasilii
          The main problem of patriotic political analytics in Russia is that behind everything they immediately begin to see America.

          And who in small Britain see? In geyrop who? And who chooses the presidents?
          Only they have it all blab, but we have proved that the ambassador in the muzzle of the road gave instructions on how to arrange a coven.
          For this, the hostages themselves removed him.
          Sleeping ... request
          1. vasilii 9 August 2019 17: 53 New
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            Sorry, I'm not sure I fully understood this set of patriotic newspeak.
        2. Campanella 10 August 2019 16: 31 New
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          And who else should they blame? And so already some officials about the people are not very responsive.
      2. Okolotochny 10 August 2019 21: 22 New
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        Why did you miss yourself? Are you the American trolls? New Trotsky?
    2. Campanella 9 August 2019 16: 24 New
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      This gang is outside the law and constitution.
  • Berkut24 9 August 2019 15: 50 New
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    but it seems to me that the FSB through Navalny is simply compiling a dossier on the protest electorate. This is a kind of modern pop Gapon.
    1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 16: 48 New
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      Quote: Berkut24
      but it seems to me that the FSB through Navalny is simply compiling a dossier on the protest electorate. This is a kind of modern pop Gapon.


    2. dirk182 9 August 2019 18: 29 New
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      It is unlikely that the FSB leaked him data on top officials
      1. Berkut24 9 August 2019 19: 48 New
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        Well, some security officials leaked information to Golunov. They have positions at stake, proximity to the body and the feeder. What prevents something on someone to merge Navalny? Moreover, there is more scream, when checking the facts for the most part are either fake or not related to any violations. Well, Solovyov has a residence permit in Italy. What is wrong with that? Why can't a hired TV show host have a residence permit somewhere? He is not an official. Bulk too, either at a demonstration, or in a jail, or hanging around abroad.
        1. Fan-fan 10 August 2019 11: 56 New
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          Do not lie to the Golden Eagle. Navalny did not show the Nightingale's residence permit in his video, but his villa in Italy and announced the value of the villa in 10 million euros and simply asked how the pro-Kremlin journalists got such money.
          1. Cat man null 10 August 2019 12: 17 New
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            ... the cost of a villa in 10 million euros ... just asked about where the pro-Kremlin journalists got such money

            He would be interested in asking about the cost of the Galkin mansion, there would be much more wink
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              Underwater hunter 10 August 2019 21: 41 New
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              He would be interested in asking about the cost of the Galkin mansion, there would be much more

              Galkin, Pugacheva is a comrade from the same clip .. Or have they forgotten how a famous state corporation paid for the Pugachev concert? Everyone and everything is tied up and sawing .. sawing .. You can see the divide .. laughing
          2. Berkut24 10 August 2019 14: 11 New
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            Navalny showed in his video not a residence permit for Nightingale, but his villa in Italy and announced the value of the villa at 10 million euros

            So what's the question? Solovyov suggested getting acquainted with his tax return indicating his income. What is in doubt here? What is the salary of our television on the central channel at the most rated time?
            Therefore, you do not need to bulge eyes. Now it’s Navalny’s turn to show his income statement and at the same time explain where the unexpectedly appeared billion has merged with him.
            You can’t do surgery on the state’s body with dirty handles and a rusty tool.
    3. Campanella 9 August 2019 20: 06 New
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      Maybe so, but the point? Fight in the windmills. If people's life only worsens, then there will be even more. It’s easier to fence off the Kremlin and Barvikha, barbs, bunkers, pillboxes ... and meet people displeased with lead porridge.
    4. Antares 9 August 2019 21: 34 New
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      Quote: Berkut24
      but it seems to me that the FSB through Navalny is simply compiling a dossier on the protest electorate. This is a kind of modern pop Gapon.

      conventional controlled discharge of test pressure.
      If the boiler is not released on time, it may be uncontrollable. And so everything is controlled.
      In a country where everything is controlled, even such a thing as criticism and the discharge of protest tension is also funded and shown in every way.
      There is a "demonstrative flogging" - the "leader of the opposition." But in reality, everything is in action. Roles are painted.
      All leaders are at work, but alternative options are being toughly and without publicity destroyed. In the buds. Clearing is periodically cleaned.
      In Russia, this has been traditional for centuries. The truth is stability — and the flip side of stagnation.
      Is it good or bad to judge the Russians. The positive and negative sides of this movement are visible.
  • Sergei 777 9 August 2019 16: 02 New
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    To get direct financing by the West of the protest actions of the Russian “radical opposition”

    Of course, I am not a supporter of Navalny, Sable, etc. ... But to see anyone who does not vote for EP agents in the West is too much.
    1. vasilii 9 August 2019 16: 10 New
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      Quote: Sergey 777
      Of course, I am not a supporter of Navalny, Sable, etc. ... But to see anyone who does not vote for EP agents in the West is too much.

      Oh no, fine. Just right.
      1. Ursus 9 August 2019 16: 32 New
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        Do not forget that those who most advocated for guillotining were waiting for the same unenviable part.
        1. Antares 9 August 2019 21: 36 New
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          Quote: Ursus
          Do not forget that those who most advocated for guillotining were waiting for the same unenviable part.

          Robespierre, as the organizer of mass terror, himself landed on the instrument of death (guillotine) and many who were guilty (but more innocent) of terror.
          Plus that VFR in the opening of elevators and the displacement of the old elite. The bourgeoisie was quickly able to take up the country after the terror of "dreamers"
          costs such events are not cheap! And not everyone is lucky with the Napoleons ...
          1. Ursus 9 August 2019 21: 42 New
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            So, I'm about the same. And there are many examples of this.
            Why bliss with bad voices about the 37 year? didn’t shoot from 17 to 37? They shot, and how! The same gr.Romanova and his family decided, be on the one, and no one pickled! But they were ideological and class enemies, they, it seems, didn’t feel sorry for them, and when it reached the very top, the executioners cried out that they were victims. Khrushchev, rehabilitated all that scum of man, so that he would spin like a propeller in a coffin.
            1. Antares 9 August 2019 22: 14 New
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              Quote: Ursus
              bliss in bad voices

              Well, people do not know the story well (preferably from different sources and not official)
              that the most terrible things are done by innocent romantics and dreamers. That any good deeds lead to blood and terror.
              That VFR is a vivid example of such a phenomenon. WHAT IN RUSSIA 1917 ..
              yes - these are the only lifts ... But it costs a fabulous price in lives ...
              Therefore, the ideal balance is still not even a nationally oriented elite (there is no patriotism in the global world) but a balanced development. Balance of interests of the lower and upper classes. Without blasting boilers from below, without isolating the tops. Without accumulation of contradictions.
              Every citizen is the state. And the richer each citizen, the richer the state itself. And this is the hard work of both the elite and every citizen.
              1. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 27 New
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                You are an idealist, this does not mean that it is bad. But life is digitized by someone, and even smooth historical bends consist of small mini-revolutions. I would like evolutionary development, but alas, it seems that it is not, was not and never will be. After all, even if you look at Putin’s pension reform, it’s essentially a revolution that hurt the fate of millions, and for him, just a stroke of the pen and a stamp stamped on paper.
          2. nickname7 10 August 2019 16: 45 New
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            . such events are not cheap

            In your opinion, WFR occurred for no reason, suddenly, in a prosperous France, a revolution took place?
            France waged a war on several fronts, was exhausted, a severe crisis began, and besides, food was taken out, and famine began. For these reasons, power rained down.
            Today in Russia, there are no FOS majors, there is no hunger, there will be no revolutions and there is no need to panic.
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      Quote: Sergey 777
      Of course, I am not a supporter of Navalny, Sable, etc. ... But to see anyone who does not vote for EP agents in the West is too much.

      That’s what it is all about .. power is stupid, they themselves promote Navalny and they add the electorate to him. I, too, am not his supporter, but against the backdrop of this outrage, I become sympathetic.
      1. Cat man null 9 August 2019 16: 30 New
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        I'm not his supporter either ...

        Yah? belay

        And by what you write - it's so simple laughing

        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        but amid this disgrace, I become sympathetic

        good laughing good

        I knew yes
      2. Campanella 9 August 2019 20: 09 New
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        Power is not stupid, but most likely is in an "interesting" position! Here from someone secret? Maybe dumb, and maybe stick from someone else's side.
        Yeltsin died, and his work lives and smells.
    3. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 16: 50 New
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      Quote: Sergey 777
      But to see anyone who does not vote for EP agents of the West is too much.

      Sorry, but where did you hear that all the "agents of the West."
      They say about those who live on State Department grants and arrange these covens
      1. Sergei 777 9 August 2019 17: 14 New
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        Turn on any political talk show in the evening. And there, “smart” uncles and “very smart” presenters will tell you about the intrigues of the West and their agents. Kiselyov somehow with a serious look proved in Russia 2 that the initial agent of the British MI6.
        1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 22 New
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          Quote: Sergey 777
          Turn on any political talk show in the evening. And there, “smart” uncles and “very smart” presenters will tell you about the intrigues of the West.

          Is there a talk show here and we are discussing "smart uncles"
          Who wrote in the article that everyone is “agents” at rallies?
  • Alexander I 9 August 2019 16: 10 New
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    Well, God forbid.
  • Eustace 9 August 2019 16: 13 New
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    It's time to deal with Navalny. It is hard to imagine that a politician in the USA who was openly prepared and financed by Russia would work actively in the USA.
    1. Underwater hunter
      Underwater hunter 9 August 2019 16: 19 New
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      Quote: Eustace
      It's time to deal with Navalny. It is hard to imagine that a politician in the USA who was openly prepared and financed by Russia would work actively in the USA.

      It is also difficult to imagine that in the USA the elite exported all the money to Russia ..
      1. Eustace 9 August 2019 16: 55 New
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        Judging by your early comments, you are categorized as all-crawler. My opinion about Navalny and his ilk is unequivocal - to plant, so that others are not accustomed to. If gentlemen do not work in the interests of Russia, they must be actively fought.
        1. Underwater hunter
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          Quote: Eustace
          If gentlemen do not work in the interests of Russia, they must be actively fought.

          I also think, and you think edro, the oligarchs work in the interests of Russia? Do you need to fight them? And if necessary, how? I am objective, back in 14, I predicted that there would be a decline in the birth rate and that there was nothing good to expect from this government. So far I have never made a mistake in my forecasts. And I recommend you to be critical of everything .. develops.
          1. Cat man null 9 August 2019 18: 03 New
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            I am objective ... So far I have never been mistaken in my forecasts ...

            Add - "as advertisements" wink

            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            And I recommend you to be critical of everything .. develops

            Yeah ... you can see it perfectly yes
    2. Catfish 9 August 2019 17: 30 New
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      Hello, Che, you forgot who chose the current US president ?! And you are a "politician financed by Russia" ... Believe above - the President himself! Underestimate you, my friend, our native Office. smile
    3. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 30 New
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      It's easy with us! Alexander Nikolayevich Yakovlev. He was prepared in the West, but how he was financed, who knows ...
    4. Pilat2009 11 August 2019 17: 27 New
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      Quote: Eustace
      It is hard to imagine that a politician in the USA who was openly prepared and financed by Russia would work actively in the USA.

      Trump isn’t? How they investigated, how they investigated ...
  • Campanella 9 August 2019 16: 29 New
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    Security forces Putin gave you an order!
    Now, on the bunks, everyone will be seated at once!
    And for the sake of the happiness of their children, a scream is rushing in Russia!
    The cry of dissenting bears rushes!
    1. MoJloT 9 August 2019 17: 06 New
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      Putin's security forces
      And without an order they are seated at a time. Each year, this is 1-1.5 of a million people, mostly those who did not have enough money to pay off, most of them sit on articles that do not belong to them, and a certain amount in general is not at all (to whom a gram will be thrown, to whom a cartridge ...). But we are fighting for demography, the economy, labor productivity, living standards, etc. etc. every year sending a productive population to jail, but what about the FSIN? After all, per capita financing ...
      1. Okolotochny 9 August 2019 17: 19 New
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        Every year it's 1-1.5 million people, basically who didn’t have enough money to pay off,

        It’s like you who carry the flame of the Maidan. You said FALSE, and intentionally !!! In Russia, a little more than 400 thousand prisoners. And about 100 thousand under investigation in a pre-trial detention center. Can you count? Or they didn’t study mathematics at school, but can you only voice the State Department figures?
        Well, what about the FSIN, because per capita financing ...
        And this is generally TRESh complete. Now it’s clear why the APG lost the election when it has such “smart” adherents. I was ashamed of him.
        1. MoJloT 9 August 2019 17: 22 New
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          In the 2000 year, there were 1,092 million people in prisons, correctional colonies and pre-trial detention facilities.
          Details: https://regnum.ru/news/society/2248080.html
          This is not the limit.
          1. Okolotochny 9 August 2019 17: 31 New
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            International Center for Prison Research (ICPS)

            We read, so that their ignorance is no longer shown. And ... your words: "Every year 1 million-1,5 million." That is, it is necessary to ply them every year ??? This is how many millions are sitting now ???
            In the 2000 year
            And now what year, feel free to ask?
            1. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 46 New
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              Quote: Okolotochny
              And now what year, feel free to ask?

              But it depends on what calendar. lol
        2. dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 36 New
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          That's right 500 thousand plus or minus. And you are right, the figure falls from year to year
          1. Okolotochny 9 August 2019 17: 59 New
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            So, "tovarisch" wrote 1 million-1,5mln EVERY YEAR. If only in the internet rechecked his nonsense. And after all, there are those who applaud such posts for pluses.
    2. Okolotochny 9 August 2019 17: 08 New
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      Yeah, these verses on the Maidan against Berkut and VV were also composed, and even for non-brothers and lace panties. When will you write for panties?
      1. Sergei 777 9 August 2019 17: 24 New
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        for not brothers and lace panties

        For panties, you already wrote Comrade Army General. Occupied a niche, so to speak wink
        1. Okolotochny 9 August 2019 17: 28 New
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          You are so worried about Voshnye ranks, can’t you sleep peacefully? Well, I'll call you Marshall. You too, how did Campanella want lace? So the stores are full, buy.
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          3. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 35 New
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            What makes you think that they compose verses for trousers?
            Marshall star knocking on the dark?
            1. Okolotochny 10 August 2019 21: 09 New
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              Uzbagoysya. Your siblings, revolutionaries on the Maidan composed.
              1. Campanella 11 August 2019 22: 42 New
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                They are not my sister. And here are your twin Yanukovychs, Kolomoisky, powders, Rotenbergs, Millers and Sechin.
    3. Lipchanin 9 August 2019 17: 15 New
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      Quote: Campanella
      Security forces Putin gave you an order!
      Now, on the bunks, everyone will be seated at once!
      And for the sake of the happiness of their children, a scream is rushing in Russia!
      The cry of dissenting bears rushes!

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        The union will provide rope and soap - then it will come in handy ... laughing
      2. sabotage 10 August 2019 18: 36 New
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        How fun and cool it is to beat unarmed and defenseless people who do not respond to violence! How then to relate to garbage and other Cossack?
  • dirk182 9 August 2019 17: 40 New
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    This whole rally situation reminds me of the Stanford prison experiment. Power skillfully divides the people.
  • Nikolai 9 August 2019 17: 45 New
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    I read the comments, interesting. A huge number of NGOs operate in Russia, many related to politics (human rights activists, environmentalists, all kinds of snobs, educators, social and other researchers, friendship societies and national, etc.), live on unaccounted for (gray channels) from abroad . Law enforcement officers and the Audit Chamber from time to time raise the question “to the stake?”, But, apparently, too early. Will hope. Many commentators from Navalny immediately go to BB, YES, EP; spitting saliva ... Well, you don’t have grants and money in an envelope .., and expiring bile on BB is not productive. Personally, I associate fio Navalny with a bunch of stinky Mr. at my doorstep. Phew!
  • Ursus 9 August 2019 17: 54 New
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    Quote: Sergey Karasev
    And now what? We will continue to endure this nits for the sake of machines, technologies, etc., which we, we must understand, are not selling right now?

    What kind of nits do not feed for a penny of labor.
    His personality, for example, is unpleasant to me, but there are no rebuttals. There are only transitions to individuals and increased pressure using an administrative resource. I think this is because there is a problem with counterarguments.
    1. dirk182 9 August 2019 18: 06 New
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      I agree. Well, if he is guilty, let him answer according to the law. But what about those comrades about whom the blockbusters are shot? Maybe they deign to explain? Or just skillfully shifting the focus of attention? And then everything looks somehow ridiculous.
  • Rwmos 9 August 2019 18: 11 New
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    Yes, everything is simpler. The Navalny project was exhausted, as the Yavlinsky project before, then the Kasyanov project ... Now it will be replaced with a new penguin, but this one will be covered, it’s all quiet soon, and not like Nemtsov, its curators. Why, in the end, the authorities do not play the last card on the next disastrous project of the State Department - in faces and numbers to show the country that all the bulked-ups are a particular horse? Not to them. namely the country?
    Voila. Although this is not necessary, 8 once every six months a “unemployed fighter against corruption” who has gone to rest is already ridiculous. And when the “whistle-blower”, de-they sent their children to the west to study their everlasting snot for a grant from the State Department sends over the hill to learn - also inspire. Here on the track count aspen drive into it - so as not to crawl out
  • depressant 9 August 2019 18: 14 New
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    The task of the Protestants under the leadership of Navalny, who put on liberal masks, is to return Russia under the complete control of the West at all costs, at least at the coup, as in 90x. The authorities tolerated their rally activities as replacing popular protests, as pushing people away from real politics. Possible options.
    1. Having reduced trade unions to zero and assured herself that the people had not yet matured to consolidated protest activity and would not mature soon, the government ceased to need Navalny, annoying her.
    2. Perhaps Putin has taken some steps against the oligarchy and corrupt officials and is removing Navalny as a rally factor supporting them. It is not for nothing that deputy Fedorov said that the oligarchs have not yet been touched, but only so far. Maybe it's time to “touch”. After all, the oligarchs were skeptical of Putin’s 12 national projects. Moreover, right away. He had just voiced them in a message to the Federal Assembly, and their faces were already accepting either bored or openly mocking expressions. They are not going to participate in the implementation of projects! And here Putin, if he really intends to “touch” the oligarchs, would need the support of the people walking in the form of absenteeism at rallies under liberal slogans.
    I’m not wanging, just guessing.
    Personally, the first paragraph seems preferable to me. The authorities do not perceive the people as the driving force of history. Perhaps in vain.
    1. vasilii 9 August 2019 19: 09 New
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      This post is such a concentrated and pure example of uncomplicated idiocy that I am simply delighted. Just a shining single crystal of idiocy.
      1. Kronos 9 August 2019 19: 35 New
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        The usual post of bourgeois patriotism in Russia
        1. depressant 9 August 2019 20: 03 New
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          This post was written by a person, that is, by me, who belongs to the poorest segment of the population. But I have enough observations of the surrounding reality to soberly assess the actions of the authorities and the people in the current political situation. At the same time, unlike you, the two previous speakers, I do not affirm anything, I only express my assumptions and even minuses to you, colleagues, as you see, I do not put it. Little of! Even your personalities do not appreciate what both of you have sinned in evaluating mine. I do not evaluate from the assumption that, having read the forum, I will be able to determine your political position, perhaps also as a shining single crystal of idiocy in the form of an irrepressible thirst for the destruction of everything and everything. Hope I'm wrong.
  • Ursus 9 August 2019 18: 19 New
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    The key to the article is here:
    Apparently, the consequence will to Western sources of financing of Navalny in large amounts

    Those. it hasn’t come out yet, but public opinion is being prepared and heated. As I understand it, if they don’t go to the sources, they will lower them on the brakes until everyone forgets.
    Jokes, jokes, and the youth is fleeing the country. And the most annoying thing is that they are far from being stupid: programmers, doctors of sciences on neural networks, mathematicians (there are examples with specific personalities, and this is only for the last 3-4 years). And they’re not going to come back. So that..
    1. vasilii 9 August 2019 19: 22 New
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      Quote: Ursus
      As I understand it, if they don’t go to the sources

      Come out, you can not doubt for a second. In the Golunov case, they went on drugs. True, they worked harder there, but this time they will probably take into account past mistakes and work a little more subtle.
      1. Ursus 9 August 2019 19: 23 New
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        Appreciated sarcasm! :)
      2. Okolotochny 10 August 2019 21: 11 New
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        That is, Lesha the mind is honest and the conscience of our era? Him in the ban and Vasya there too!
  • Whispering in the night 9 August 2019 18: 22 New
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    I look, sectarians Lekhina ran a crowd, as usual with them))
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      Quote: Whispering in the night
      I look, sectarians Lekhina ran a crowd, as usual with them))

      It's only the beginning laughing
      Right now the "main artillery" will catch up and fly the "minus" left and right laughing
      1. Rwmos 9 August 2019 19: 50 New
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        I’m still waiting for both Navralny and Mask to be barked in one article at once. Two sects in a duet will be minus laughing I think so, they will sell minus points right up to the server wassat And fingers will be erased
        1. CT-55_11-9009 10 August 2019 17: 05 New
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          Quote: RWMos
          I think so, they will sell the minuses right up to the server And they will erase the fingers

          With them will become! How did I get tired of explaining to my friends that the projects and proposals of the Mask ... As it were, so to speak ... are somewhat poorly implemented. And about Navalny, I really like the phrase of a classmate: "How can you trust a person with the name Navalny? He will pile you on the table and run away."
          1. Sasha ___ 11 August 2019 04: 31 New
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            Well, the mask has already made poorly implemented PayPal, weakly implemented Tesla and weakly implemented SpaceX. What is further weakly realizable? Hyperloop already tested at 500km / h?
            1. Rwmos 11 August 2019 22: 48 New
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              And here is the spherical sectarian in a vacuum. PayPal is the only successful project, do not forget that it is not a sphere of real production. A matter of classic office moth, no PRODUCT is produced. Tesla. Not. you sectarians. well done! Nothing that this project is DAMAGED and has always been so. and profit - no? Selling 1 Tesla in 2016 brought the company a loss in 200 bucks (less, but still minus, not plus).
              About what they’re “experiencing” - he’s promised a lot, just a sign of fraud. By the way, Musk was officially recognized as a fraud by a US court - he was not judged by the Russian Federation, YOUR beloved United States recognized as a fraud, the Solar City project, receiving subsidies from the US government.
              Hyper for their loop - works? Ah, they promise that it will ... And I promise that I will become Mendeleev ...
              Sasha, you are Sasha, the pear of our training ...
              1. Sasha ___ 17 August 2019 03: 57 New
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                You see, there is truth and there is your opinion. The truth is, Tesla sales are growing, the number of spacex flights is growing, and hyperloop is being tested and developed. From the way you look at it, who you think the Mask is, nothing changes. Dogs bark - the caravan is coming. Here, as if everything is obvious - you, on the scale of the Mask, do not even reach the Pug. Let’s better tell me how much Rogozin earned there or who your “non-sectarians” have in high esteem. Or count how many subsidies AvtoVAZ needs to start producing electric cars with an autopilot.
                1. eagle owl 17 August 2019 04: 37 New
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                  The well-known Japanese investment bank Nomura, after numerous requests from customers, nevertheless decided to analyze the Tesla shares and came to the conclusion that they would cost one and a half times more than now, including due to the fact that the company has a "loyal" and economically irrational customer base".
                  It remains only to admire how subtle, precise and polite Japanese bankers called fools Mask company customers.

                  The truth is that Teslaa is unprofitable and has always been unprofitable. And the rest of the tales - this is your opinion. And who are you - see the conclusion of the bank Nomura
                  1. Sasha ___ 17 August 2019 06: 38 New
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                    There is a product, demand is growing, there are plans for development, expansion to China. The result will be. Nothing depends on your spitefulness.
                    PS. By the way, look who are the largest shareholders of Tesla - blackrocks, fidelity and so on. That is, companies playing long.
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              PayPal, strictly speaking, was not only Musk who made it, he was a manager in this project, and the product itself was made by specialists. Farther. Tesla? For the price, the comrade above has already expressed himself. There are questions about her safety too. So this car is a frank amateur. SpaceX? Come on, tell me more about the genius Falcon, come on! Musk is not an engineer, he is a leader (more precisely, a PR man and a hand-driver), therefore HE DOES NOTHING personally, except for advertising. In fact, under his leadership, NASA engineers are working, who all this pile. I can’t say anything about Hyperlup, I was not interested. The design itself is good, but let's see the implementation.
              1. Sasha ___ 17 August 2019 04: 09 New
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                For God's sake, I’m not going to dissuade you. I think Russia is full before the eyes of examples of better leaders - Rogozin, Chubais, Poghosyan, who is still all innovative among us. There are more than enough innovations too - over there, the yo-mobile is again not made with a finger.
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                  Quote: Sasha ___
                  I think Russia is full before the eyes of examples of better leaders - Rogozin, Chubais, Poghosyan, who is still all innovative among us. There are more than enough innovations too - over there, the yo-mobile is again not made with a finger.

                  Just do not need to remember these hands of leaders. For all three, the aspen is crying! Rogozin is creating frank game in Roscosmos, thanks, he was pushed away from real work, leaving him with populism. Chubais ... There is nowhere to put samples on this: RAO UES, Rusnano - the examples speak for themselves. Pogosyan during the headquarters in the KLA almost strangled all firms except his Sukhoi (but he raised it strongly, no doubt about it). And now this scumbag my dear MAI does a damn thing than (it seems like a glamorous waste bin), optimizing everything that doesn't bring money (that is, most of the necessary departments and their developments), and at the same time cracking down on rivals (thanks that our Alifanov is worthy confronts him and the aerospace faculty saves).
      2. Campanella 10 August 2019 16: 56 New
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        But do not you think that this is a consequence of fatigue from the Putin regime?
        I’m Navalny on the drum, but I don’t see the positive on Putin’s agenda either. And what can you do?
        For me, both of them would go to the cell one, in about ten years they would have left as fellow believers.
        1. Okolotochny 10 August 2019 21: 12 New
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          Tomaso, don’t ..... smack nonsense, it hurts, then along Lavrov.
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            Derzhimorda, and then what is the point of the situation in your opinion?
  • rocket757 9 August 2019 18: 33 New
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    People don’t care what’s up there with these protests and people jumping on them.
    The people do not care what the authorities are dissatisfied with / on this occasion.
    The people need to work and earn what they have earned, and not what is “jokingly” called fair / decent wages with us!
    Yes, still people very much want Schaub everything was done according to the law, even according to the clumsy one that we have!
    1. vasilii 9 August 2019 19: 23 New
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      Therefore, people with contempt will remain at home and will reproachfully drink beer.
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      Quote: rocket757
      People do not care,

      Or, for starters, change the word "People" to the word "Me"?
      Well, or then show the document where the people authorized you to speak on his behalf.
      And then when they start to speak on behalf of the people, something like a mess happens
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        Absolutely AHA! I AGREE with the statement of the question! And I admit that I express my point of view based on very limited everyday, working observations !!! Just like MOST writing, speaking!
        Nowhere, with the exception of the established Navalny support group and the circles that he represents in my IT department, there is no talk about them ..... It's not even 1: 100, it's rather lower!
        Here is my observation.
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        Listen, Lipchanin, nobody authorized you to be a lawyer of the people! By the way, I support rocket, not you. And his opinion is closer to me than your boltology.
  • Avior 9 August 2019 20: 20 New
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    No need to fool yourself. Bulk is just the tip of the iceberg. If there was a man, there would be a case.
    As with that major, who said that the stew was replaced with canned food for dogs, and received either five years, or four years.
    Every day you read, the doctor complained, he was fired.
    But the duelist, the guardsman, is all right.
    Well, who is normal going to the opposition, knowing that he will be picked up in two ways?
    Here are just different "characters".
    And the majority does not need this opposition, which the government criticizes.
    The people do not see the connection between the presence of opposition and the responsibility of the authorities for their actions and actions.
    So it turns out, 140 million, but there is no one to replace. No fools stick out
    1. dirk182 9 August 2019 20: 37 New
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      That's right. Make people afraid (threat of war, dismemberment, repression). Then give him the “feeling” that you and security are synonyms. And the people will obey you unquestioningly.
      1. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 04 New
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        And here comes the sacred question, and who is instead of Putin?
        1. Okolotochny 10 August 2019 21: 13 New
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          So let's go ahead, move forward, at the same time you will find out the price for yourself))))
          1. Campanella 11 August 2019 17: 35 New
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            Late, Putin did not advance, and Yeltsin pulled him out of the rain and brought him into power. I think many would have revealed in this way, but not everyone had the card.
    2. Campanella 11 August 2019 17: 38 New
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      Here I am about that! The authorities cleared a political clearing, and then asks the innocent question "Who is instead of Putin?"
  • vel1163 9 August 2019 23: 42 New
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    It would be better to remove the reasons that allow him to criticize and expose. And then they steal from us and he and his foundation are to blame.
    1. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 05 New
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      It is difficult for them to be mediocre Petersburg. It’s easier for them to shut up a throat with a dissatisfied throat, to break their mouth, to blink out ...
  • 89067359490 10 August 2019 00: 42 New
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    I looked at this news, read the comments on it, and was shocked.
    Previously, I didn’t watch Alexey Navalny. Recently (four months ago I looked) I began to watch his videos and investigations.
    And what can I say:
    1. Alexey’s videos are easy to check. Overseas property, dual-triple citizenships, kickback schemes of the “heroes” of his investigations.
    And in response, I did not see objective criticism.
    PFU on you Alexei Navalny is of course a powerful and reasoned criticism)
    2. Regarding the money laundering - in every live broadcast, the donat went to him from 20-30 and above thousand rubles. I am sure that other donations and transfers are easily provable.
    3. For Alexey Navalny, surveillance has long been dense. A man is imprisoned every third day. I doubt very much that there are fools in Navalny’s team who will do something illegal or try to pull him under such conditions.
    4.
    Trump America is undemocratic, so our Democrats are no longer needed either. And the Investigative Committee has seen a criminal billion rubles in the accounts of FBK "anti-corruption" Navalny. Under the slogan “For Fair Elections”, they will close him as an accomplice in the interference of the Western special services in the Russian elections, which received funding from abroad for their shares.


    Well, yes. Democrat Clinton, then Republican Bush Jr., followed by Democrat Obama and finally Trump who did not believe in victory. And whose election the State Duma met with applause. Of course they don’t have democracy))) Not like we have) After two Putin one Medvedev and again two Putin)
    And for a snack.
    Constitution of Russia.
    Article 4. Paragraph 2. The Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws have supremacy throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.
    Article 6. Paragraph 2. Each citizen of the Russian Federation possesses on its territory all rights and freedoms and bears equal responsibilities provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    Article 15. Paragraph 1. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and applies throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    Article 21. Paragraph 1. The dignity of the individual is protected by the state. Nothing can be the basis for his belittling.
    Article 31
    Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully without weapons, hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.
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      PS By arresting Alexei Navalny and his team, the government has made ordinary citizens worse. For it will be new sanctions, bans and fines from Western countries.
      So essentially all sorts of Zimbabwe and the DPRK remained as allies. From which we do not receive neither goods, nor technologies, not even simply a good tourist flow.
    2. Tatyana 10 August 2019 14: 14 New
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      Quote: 89067359490
      Article 15. Paragraph 1. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and applies throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

      You poorly - too superficially - studied the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Namely.

      Article 15, paragraph 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation - determines the supremacy of the EXTERNAL MANAGEMENT of the Russian Federation.
      Article 15 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation Project declaration on the advertised site.

      1. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and is applied throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

      2. State authorities, local governments, officials, citizens and their associations are obliged to comply with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the laws.

      3. Laws are subject to official publication. Unpublished laws do not apply. Any regulatory legal acts affecting the rights, freedoms and duties of a person and a citizen cannot be applied if they are not officially published for general information.

      4. The generally recognized principles and norms of international law and international treaties of the Russian Federation are an integral part of its legal system. If other rules are established by an international treaty of the Russian Federation than those provided by law, the rules of the international treaty shall apply.

      More detailed legal clarifications on this subject can be seen in the video “Article 15, paragraph 4 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation. Priority of international treaties” -
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=188&v=eWHhCsLhg9U
    3. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 10 New
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      This is a sweet tale called the Russian constitution, no one in power needs, they themselves write and cross out when they need it.
  • Igor Shcherbina 10 August 2019 03: 58 New
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    The laws of capitalism, a big shark devours a little one, and so there is no difference between them.
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      The laws of capitalism, a big shark devours a little one, and so there is no difference between them.

      Absolutely aha! Change AWL for SOAP, what is the deep meaning in this?
      "Our" opposition drowns not for popular power, but for SELF in power!
      Let's see how the neighbors succeed ??? It looks like they sewed soap and changed it. We will not affect our relationship, but just see what they DO for the people, and not just say.
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        Quote: rocket757
        "Our" opposition drowns not for popular power, but for SELF in power!

        Perfectly said! good Briefly and into the “bullseye” on the target of an internal problem, especially regarding the question of Navalny!
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          Thank you soldier
          This expression already ..... often and many repeated, shows the very essence of many, many.
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            Quote: rocket757
            Thank you soldier
            This expression already ..... often and many repeated, shows the very essence of many, many.

            Because this is your expression (if the authorship is also yours) deserves to be a classic aphorism and it was it that became such. yes
            And I also wanted to ask you, as an author, for permission to use it sometimes.

            REFERENCE
            Aphorism (from the other Greek: ἀφορισμός short dictum) is an original finished thought, spoken and recorded in a concise memorable text form and subsequently repeatedly reproduced by other people.
            1. rocket757 10 August 2019 08: 17 New
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              Use, I see no obstacles soldier soldier
              And the expression, I still heard and picked up, slightly changing for a specific topic. I mostly listen to the radio on the go, so it's probably from there.
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                Quote: rocket757
                And the expression, I still heard and picked up, slightly changing for a specific topic.

                Yes you are well done! good For the mind and for particular I praise you! yes
                drinks
      2. Campanella 10 August 2019 17: 13 New
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        Power also drowns for itself!
        And what to do with all of them? We plant some, and sing hosiery to others? All to jail for bullying the people!
        1. rocket757 10 August 2019 18: 13 New
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          The powers that be have their own group of supporters .... support attached.
          This is capitalism and the owner of factories, newspapers, transitions will always care only about himself!
          Well, then you can recall the dialectic of the eternal confrontation between creators and parasites, everything has been written for a long time.
  • rocket757 10 August 2019 07: 14 New
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    This is someone else itErEsno ???

    Cool question turned out !!! Well appreciated!
    And now another question - And how and what are they, this "our" opposition, headed or next to Alyosha, is dangerous that truly owns ALL and EVERYTHING in OUR country ??? Not those public faces who flutter and broadcast from all the "stands", set their .... servants on everyone who resents below, but the TRUE country owners ???
  • Vlad 63 10 August 2019 09: 22 New
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    [quote] they do not know how in the city of Paris they detain "yellow vests" [quote],)))
    Federal TV runs its material through, conditionally, a meat grinder. The result is a certain type of substance similar to excrement. And this they feed TV lovers. Eat it. The author, also a lover of this odorous material. He can’t even afford to doubt the picture shown. He probably doesn’t know how several completely different reports can be shot from the same footage. He is first shown a violently rallying crowd of Parisians in yellow vests. Then, as the Paris gendarmes shoot at someone. Then someone is beaten and detained. Oops! And the bum is ready. And this author eats in two throats. Do not choke. Also here it relays this. Fu Fu Fu! Is critical thinking missing at all? It’s just to assume that some people go to these meetings not for justice, for defending their interests, but simply to rob shops, restaurants, etc. while can this be done with almost impunity? But what if it is precisely these people who are shot and used hard by local law enforcement officers? Well, Viktor Kamenev, enjoy your meal. )))))
  • yuratanja1950 10 August 2019 13: 22 New
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    "they begin to treat traitors as traitors, and enemies as enemies" ...

    Well, finally ... At least some kind of mirror movements began ... Although the mirror answer, frankly, is not enough for the USA and VelikoNagliya ...
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    Navalny spent a vacation for stolen money. Proof of. Published: May 29 2019

    Why for honestly earned in the State Department.
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    Quote: vasilii
    people send FBK donations for activities

    So you decide our people send him or the State Department.
  • Chaldon48 10 August 2019 13: 58 New
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    Well, Novalny has been exposed, what's next?
  • fa2998 10 August 2019 14: 06 New
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    Quote: Mavrikiy
    "Soak in the toilet" fifth column. 30 years we endure on the neck.

    Well, I’ll probably get enough of the minuses, but I’ll express myself-BULKY DOES NOT CONSTITUTE IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE! And the fact that he spends his vacations in fashionable resorts, eating money from sponsors is his business.
    Let the prosecutor’s office (the eyes of the sovereign) and the Investigative Committee better deal with STATE officials who steal STATE money. But of course you can’t touch your own. hi
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      How can I water my own? They have a narrow bench. Everyone went over with whom he drank, lived, served, was friends, studied ... Learning does not allow strangers to take.
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    In fact, I read the right words and the correct conclusions, in my opinion, but I can hardly believe it. This toothless and slurred foreign policy really got it. It seems that Russia likes the role of a whipping boy, and even the old Britannia can offend the weak each ...
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    I looked at this news, read the comments on it, and was shocked.
    Previously, I didn’t watch Alexey Navalny. Recently (four months ago I looked) I began to watch his videos and investigations.
    And what can I say:
    1. Alexey’s videos are easy to check. Overseas property, dual-triple citizenships, kickback schemes of the “heroes” of his investigations.
    And in response, I did not see objective criticism.
    PFU on you Alexei Navalny is of course a powerful and reasoned criticism)
    2. Regarding the money laundering - in every live broadcast, the donat went to him from 20-30 and above thousand rubles. I am sure that other donations and transfers are easily provable.
    3. For Alexey Navalny, surveillance has long been dense. A man is imprisoned every third day. I doubt very much that there are fools in Navalny’s team who will do something illegal or try to pull him under such conditions.
    4.
    Trump America is undemocratic, so our Democrats are no longer needed either. And the Investigative Committee has seen a criminal billion rubles in the accounts of FBK "anti-corruption" Navalny. Under the slogan “For Fair Elections”, they will close him as an accomplice in the interference of the Western special services in the Russian elections, which received funding from abroad for their shares.


    Well, yes. Democrat Clinton, then Republican Bush Jr., followed by Democrat Obama and finally Trump who did not believe in victory. And whose election the State Duma met with applause. Of course they don’t have democracy))) Not like we have) After two Putin one Medvedev and again two Putin)
    And for a snack.
    Constitution of Russia.
    Article 4. Paragraph 2. The Constitution of the Russian Federation and federal laws have supremacy throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.
    Article 6. Paragraph 2. Each citizen of the Russian Federation possesses on its territory all rights and freedoms and bears equal responsibilities provided for by the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    Article 15. Paragraph 1. The Constitution of the Russian Federation has the highest legal force, direct effect and applies throughout the territory of the Russian Federation. Laws and other legal acts adopted in the Russian Federation shall not contradict the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    Article 21. Paragraph 1. The dignity of the individual is protected by the state. Nothing can be the basis for his belittling.
    Article 31
    Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully without weapons, hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, marches and pickets.

    I translate it into human language. To the citizens of Russia, the Constitution GUARANTEES the right to gather at all rallies, processions, etc. The Constituti