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Zelensky called Putin and convened a meeting of the "Norman Four"

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Ukraine calls on all leaders of the "Norman Four" to hold a meeting to resolve the situation in the Donbass as soon as possible. The corresponding appeal was made public by the President of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky after the death of four servicemen of the Armed Forces in the conflict zone.


Zelensky called Putin and convened a meeting of the "Norman Four"


Zelensky has traditionally posted his appeal on a page on Facebook. In it, he called on Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel and Vladimir Putin to "get together as soon as possible to resume negotiations." The reason for this appeal was allegedly a violation of the "truce" on the part of the DPR militia, who immediately hit four Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers from a grenade launcher.

Four Ukrainian soldiers died near Pavlopol from shelling from a hand-held anti-tank grenade launcher. Today's incident is aimed at undermining not only this truce, but also the negotiation process as a whole. Ukraine sincerely wants peace. And our desire is unchanging. Today the whole world saw who does not want peace

- wrote Zelensky.

In addition, the head of Ukraine held an emergency meeting of the National Security and Defense Council, at which the situation with the death of VSUshnikov was discussed. At the meeting, Zelensky said that he phoned Russian President Vladimir Putin in the morning and asked him "to influence that side so that they stop killing our people."

Meanwhile, the DPR commented on Kiev’s information about the alleged involvement of the militia in the deaths of the Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers from a grenade launcher shot during engineering work in the area of ​​Pavlopol’s village north of Mariupol.

The OOS command did not bother to verify that unloading and death occurred more than four kilometers from the contact line, where the shot of the anti-tank grenade launcher could not reach

declared in the DPR NM, explaining the statement of the Ukrainian side by an attempt to shift the blame for the disruption of the truce to the republics.



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  1. Gray brother
    Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 22
    +23
    He knows what to do and where to go, I think that the meeting of the "four" convened in Facebook will take place on Twitter. laughing
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 7 August 2019 12: 34
      +13
      Quote: Gray Brother
      He knows what to do and where to go, I think that the meeting of the "four" convened in Facebook will take place on Twitter. laughing

      He is a professional clown, though this comedian sometimes needs to remember that he is president. But Putin and Macron are clearly not his audience, who bought tickets for the “quarter”.
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 40
        +20
        Quote: Proxima
        a comedian sometimes needs to remember that he is president.

        The last time they explained to him that international meetings are organized through the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, and not through Facebook.
        He even "forgot" that - because he is another clown, not a president.
        1. Dietmar
          Dietmar 7 August 2019 13: 47
          +4
          I think Ze will soon bark that he can’t get through to Putin ...
          Putin's nerves are steel ropes, but the moment will come when "a lot of honor ..."
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      2. 1536
        1536 7 August 2019 16: 26
        0
        Pop Gapon was a clergyman at all. But from this his provocations did not become less destructive and catastrophic for many people of that time.
    2. lucul
      lucul 7 August 2019 12: 45
      +6
      He knows what to do and where to go, I think that convened in facebook the meeting of the quartet will take place in tweeter

      Dear in the Sweater, in the Sweater)))))
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 7 August 2019 12: 57
        +5
        Quote: lucul
        Dear in the Sweater, in the Sweater)))))

        Zelensky started fleas in a sweater, or maybe even lice. laughing
        1. lucul
          lucul 7 August 2019 13: 15
          0
          Zelensky started fleas in a sweater, or maybe even lice. laughing

          ))
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    4. koks
      koks 7 August 2019 20: 11
      -1
      Quote: Gray Brother
      He knows what to do and where to go, I think that the meeting of the "four" convened in Facebook will take place on Twitter. laughing

      Notice Sergey how this clown is becoming impudent .. Zionists are behind him and not just cunning Benya ..
      Again, Russia will be promoted to war on the outskirts .. There is no money, they will give when the massacre in the Donbass begins.
      And Zelensky from his income, back in Russia, unfastened the Natsik and large sums ..
      And then, when he was kicked, 95 square meters began .. It's terrible what’s going on!
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 8 August 2019 00: 39
        +1
        Quote: koks
        how this clown impudent.

        Impudent is not his profile, a scarecrow cannot impudent - he just stuck in the middle of the field.
  2. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 7 August 2019 12: 25
    +17
    to convene "ZE" can only its own "quarter" and Russia, Germany and France only ask
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 7 August 2019 12: 45
      +11
      And no one told him that a mine bolted to a grenade launcher does not fly that far (4 km)? And the ukrovoyaks, who decided to either disassemble the ammunition, or twist the mine with a shot (the invention of the ukrovoyak, as far as I remember) and blew up, caused such a reaction? The commanders decided to "cover up" their joint, but the publicity ...
      1. Xenofont
        Xenofont 7 August 2019 13: 35
        +2
        Explaining stoned is useless. As in an anecdote about a drug addict: - "... nafig details!"
      2. Ezekiel 25-17
        Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 14: 46
        +2
        LNG-9M range of 4,5 km on a hinged path. Another question is that its calculation is exactly 4 people. Suggests thought.
        1. Gato
          Gato 7 August 2019 16: 24
          +1
          Thought provoking

          As well as the specialties of the victims - one grenade launcher, the second assistant grenade launcher, for the other two there is no data
  3. Nevsky_ZU
    Nevsky_ZU 7 August 2019 12: 25
    +8
    Shorter than 5 years of bloody tractor. But Ukraine already does not hide that it wants to make Palestine 2.0 from Donbass, where the collective West will be like Israel for it, allow it to shell everything and everything, and LDNR condemnations and sanctions. They even want to build a wall.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 29
      +8
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      wants to make Palestine 2.0,

      You can want a lot, but in reality it all depends on the percentage of citizens of the Russian Federation among the population of LDNR.
  4. Yury Siritsky
    Yury Siritsky 7 August 2019 12: 27
    0
    Zelensky, do not believe your generals. Your mistakes are shifted to the republic.
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 31
      +3
      Quote: Yuri Siritsky
      do not believe

      You are mistaken - this is not a "good king" who is not in the know, but another bloody clown.
      1. The Siberian barber
        The Siberian barber 7 August 2019 12: 39
        +4
        I do not undertake to defend Zelensky, and especially VSUshnikov, but you must agree that the rhetoric and actions of the president come from the information he received. But what a question is she
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 42
          +6
          Quote: The Siberian Barber
          But what a question is she

          I don't see any questions here, the next "Russia is driving us in - help NATO (or better give us a penny)."
          1. The Siberian barber
            The Siberian barber 7 August 2019 12: 50
            +1
            Duc, in order to put him in this chair))
            But for some reason it seems to me that he has very vague information on the situation on the contact line
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 53
              +5
              Quote: The Siberian Barber
              that he has very vague information on the situation on the contact line

              But he doesn’t need this, he doesn’t take independent decisions either.
              1. The Siberian barber
                The Siberian barber 7 August 2019 14: 44
                +2
                good
                Conductor / Semiconductor)))
                Human transistor))
          2. Sadam
            Sadam 7 August 2019 14: 06
            -2
            probably meant that 4 people from that side were not counted. no matter how I belonged to Bandera, but an ugly story. so everything is hard going with this truce ....
  5. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 7 August 2019 12: 28
    +1
    At the meeting, Zelensky said that in the morning he called Russian President Vladimir Putin and asked him to "influence that side so that they stop killing our people."

    What a clever move. Obviously, someone suggested it to him. And, I believe that this "someone" had a hand in the death of those who heard.
    Which is indirectly confirmed in LDNR
    The OOS command did not bother to verify that unloading and death occurred more than four kilometers from the contact line, where the shot of the anti-tank grenade launcher could not reach

  6. usr01
    usr01 7 August 2019 12: 29
    +3
    Also to me - "the director of the beach", "the main choke of the shipping company" ....
    Does anyone take him seriously ????
  7. Baloo
    Baloo 7 August 2019 12: 30
    +3
    For the first time, banderlogs are killing their own in order to attract attention. Dumli will be KVN, but nothing has changed. The bloody circus continues, the sprechtalmeister is new, and the troupe and director of the circus are the same, behind the Atlantic puddle.
    The next issue, I venture to suggest a provocation in Crimea and the cries of a clown See: I told him, give Crimea, otherwise it will be worse, America is with us!
  8. GRDS
    GRDS 7 August 2019 12: 31
    +1
    Alla, Vladimir Vladimirovich, will you come to my presentation ?! drinks
    1. Gray brother
      Gray brother 7 August 2019 12: 35
      +1
      Quote: GRDS
      Will you come to my view ?!

      I think this is not the level.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 August 2019 12: 32
    +3
    convened meeting of the Normandy Four
    Who is he to convene with his only will, Authors need to be careful in writing headings for articles.
    the death occurred more than four kilometers from the contact line, where the shot of an anti-tank grenade launcher could not reach
    If this is so, then Zelensky greatly bursting having complained about GDP. It is possible to shell civilians, infrastructure, but the death of 4 servicemen caused a nervous breakdown in the Ukrainian government?
  10. valley64
    valley64 7 August 2019 12: 33
    +4
    Zelensky is more afraid of his militants than Russia.
    1. PalBor
      PalBor 7 August 2019 12: 52
      +2
      In-in. He now needs to worry about his skin. On August 24, he wants to hold a "Guidance Walk", and the nationalists stir up their parade towards him. The Americans have already warned their own in the days of the celebration of Independence to stay away from these "celebrations". Will the President have enough strength and will to cope with the Nazis? We will see.
  11. Dietmar
    Dietmar 7 August 2019 12: 34
    +4
    Hiley Likely, APU themselves, at least, provoked this incident, and most likely themselves killed their soldiers. Performers of this kind are stamped by the SBU.
    "Cui prodest" has not been canceled yet! They are looking for a reason to start full-scale shelling, but in order to preserve the statehood. In short, eat the fish, and (you know further).
    Insolence, meanness, greed, stupidity, servility, dependency - this is the modern country of the ancient Sumerians of seafarers. Not only did they bite the giving hand, but they also spat on it.
  12. Amateur
    Amateur 7 August 2019 12: 55
    +2
    Recently, I have begun to form the opinion that the Ukraine-2014 project is a personal project of Mr. Joe Biden and some people close to him from the leadership of the Democratic Party for making money. $ 5 billion allocated by the State Department where? They were used to buy cookies that Vika the mother gave out. Or were they given to the heroes of the heavenly hundred for $ 100 / hour? And how much did Biden-son hapanul? And kissing old Hillary on the anus with "Pedro Chocolate Bunny"?
    The Democrats have lost. And Trump doesn't care about Ukraine. But in the "democratic" State Department, some in the Pentagon continue this "Ukrainian voshkanie".
    The next year in the US, elections and the most likely Democratic candidate are Joe Biden. Then we will learn a lot about corruption, about snipers, and even about the Malaysian Boeing.
    It remains only to wait a year.
  13. HAM
    HAM 7 August 2019 12: 55
    +2
    What a fussy ... around already noted, but the sense of zero ... it seems that Macron himself surpassed the hectic, he also started briskly ...
    Take it to yourself and don’t call anywhere ... but one blah, blah, blah ..
  14. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 7 August 2019 13: 07
    +2
    Well, he looks like a schmo !!
  15. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah 7 August 2019 13: 11
    -18
    "The JFO command did not bother to verify that the unloading and death occurred more than four kilometers from the contact line, where the anti-tank grenade launcher shot could not reach."

    declared in the DPR NM, explaining the statement of the Ukrainian side by an attempt to shift the blame for the disruption of the truce to the republics.
    NM DNR Breshet LIKE A BLUE MERIN. WORKED WITH "SPEAR" AND NO THERE IS 4 KM, IS THAT IN THEIR FANTASIES
    1. kot423
      kot423 7 August 2019 13: 23
      +8
      Mmmm ... I’m embarrassed to ask: did you personally go there with a curvimeter and fired from the SPG-9 (which has an aiming 1,3 km) to scream with a caps?
      1. Jeremiah
        Jeremiah 7 August 2019 14: 05
        -8
        A curvimeter is for especially smart people who sit on cards. Which by the way are no longer used ... There are tablets .. And the laser rangefinders are measuring everything very surprisingly and satellite imagery shows who is where at 4 km ..... cameras also stand ...
        1. not main
          not main 7 August 2019 21: 36
          0
          Quote: Jeremiah
          A curvimeter is for especially smart people who sit on cards. Which by the way are no longer used ... There are tablets .. And the laser rangefinders are measuring everything very surprisingly and satellite imagery shows who is where at 4 km ..... cameras also stand ...

          Well, why? If there is a road on the map that winds around, then I wonder how you can determine the length of the route using (tablets, lasers, etc.)? And with the help of a curvimeter this is done at a time!
          1. Jeremiah
            Jeremiah 7 August 2019 21: 52
            -1
            Why am I wasting time on people who do not reach the elementary ... The distance in the field is measured by rangefinder devices with a laser, optical and even the thumb. We are talking about the distance to the point from which they fired at the position of the APU. Distances to enemy positions have already been verified a thousand times. What is a mine or grenade repeating the bends of the road or the terrain? She flies in a straight line. Even on your notorious map, a straight line can be measured with a match. Satellite imagery is similar. On the tablet, you just ask the route from point to point and it gives out the distance ... Moreover, the question was, what did you personally go with him? Why go with him? I know what a curvimeter is and how to use it, but in this case it is ...... and ........ is not needed.
            1. not main
              not main 7 August 2019 22: 09
              0
              Quote: Jeremiah
              I know what a curvimeter is and how to use it, but in this case it is ...... and ........ is not needed.

              Why are you wasting your "precious" time? I'm not going to argue with you. I just know that NPL and NL-10M are also "anachronistic", but ... to rely entirely on "gadgets", I personally think it is stupidity, if not a crime! Yes, for me a map and a compass are much more preferable than all your "pribluda". What if they refuse?
    2. eckons
      eckons 7 August 2019 13: 41
      +6
      The whole president of the ruins stated that: -Four Ukrainian soldiers died near Pavlopol from shelling from hand anti-tank grenade launcher.
      And you misinterpret his words, declare that you worked out of LNG. And you blame someone for lying, and even with a caps. On a lie and the hat is on.
      1. Jeremiah
        Jeremiah 7 August 2019 13: 59
        -10
        The clown is forgiven him that LNG, that manual)) And you just believe and do not be surprised when he arrives in response
        1. eckons
          eckons 7 August 2019 14: 30
          +6
          Why on earth should I believe this clown, and all the other clowns who lie at every step, shaking pieces of the bus, test tubes and perfume bottles. But you have blamed the lies of NM LDNR., So you are the same clown. And we’re not surprised at anything
          1. Jeremiah
            Jeremiah 7 August 2019 14: 38
            -4
            Well, I’m above you and suggest not to be surprised and write even in what cases))) I somehow believe it or not you believe .... Time will make me believe
            1. eckons
              eckons 7 August 2019 15: 00
              +3
              Time shows that everything that these clowns say is a lie. And you can surprise only one who does not expect something, but we know that it is mono to expect any meanness from these freaks.
        2. Ezekiel 25-17
          Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 14: 51
          +2
          Do you threaten Russia and its citizens?
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            1. Ezekiel 25-17
              Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 18: 29
              0
              In accordance with the decree of President R.F. a simplified procedure for obtaining citizenship was introduced for citizens of the LDNR; Thus, your statement, I quote: "... An answer will arrive ...", can be viewed as a direct and obvious threat of murder to the citizens of RF. hypothetically capable of being at this moment in the LPNR, on the line of demarcation of the parties. I also want you to understand that in this case you become an accomplice in this crime. PS I strongly advise you not to grind with your tongue and follow what is said and written. All this matters and, if necessary, will be used against you.
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                1. Ezekiel 25-17
                  Ezekiel 25-17 8 August 2019 11: 45
                  -1
                  De jure in Ukraine, in 2014, a coup d'etat was committed. Therefore, from the point of view of normal legal logic, the so-called ATO troops are precisely terrorists in the eyes of Russian law. Your statements, on this site, in particular, are nothing more than propaganda of terrorism, and organizations banned in Russia, therefore you must be extradited to the territory of Russia for further trial and imprisonment in the event of a conviction by a Russian court.
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      2. Sadam
        Sadam 7 August 2019 14: 17
        +1
        to me this conspiracy theology as an outside observer seems too chur so that they are their own from a grenade launcher. and it’s possible to find out - the investigative group who from where shot who went where ...
        1. Ezekiel 25-17
          Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 20: 02
          0
          Quote: Sadam
          to me this conspiracy theology as an outside observer seems too chur so that they are their own from a grenade launcher. and it’s possible to find out - the investigative group who from where shot who went where ...

          Yes, and here on their own, as many cases of careless handling of weapons.
    3. Ezekiel 25-17
      Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 14: 49
      +4
      The "Spear" M has a range of 4,5 km over the canopy. Another question: try to hit, and: its calculation is just 4 people. We think ...
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 7 August 2019 13: 13
    +2
    And our desire is unchanging. Today the whole world saw who does not want peace

    showman ... these are all said. A game for the domestic audience.
    the previous identity wrote everything, convened, and the show was arranged no worse than the professionals of the club stage.
    In short, the level of political maturity is lower than normal, to put it mildly ..... green ish-sho, the time for treba to ripen, if it does not rot unripe, it is also likely.
  17. tralmaster
    tralmaster 7 August 2019 13: 20
    +3
    But Merkel and Macron from Facebooka will not get out, they just wait for Trump or some Zelensky to write there.
  18. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 13: 56
    0
    Well, you give the headlines to the respected author: "... I called Putin and called ..." He was already sent in Washington with an invitation to Trump to expand the format, and will soon be sent here.
    1. asv363
      asv363 7 August 2019 17: 16
      0
      In short, then:
      1. There will be a meeting of contact groups in a trilateral format (DPR, LPR, Ukraine).
      2. Was discussed the prospect of interaction in the "Norman format".
  19. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 13: 56
    0
    Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
    Well, you give the headlines to the respected author: "... I called Putin and called ..." He was already sent in Washington with an invitation to Trump to expand the format, and will soon be sent here.
  20. ohka
    ohka 7 August 2019 14: 11
    +2
    The call is not a convocation
  21. Galleon
    Galleon 7 August 2019 14: 19
    +1
    Came out ... hooted ... whistled ...
    I forgot to stomp. No one will listen.
  22. Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 7 August 2019 14: 50
    0
    Clown, he is in the presidential chair - a clown!
  23. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 7 August 2019 14: 52
    0
    Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
    Well, you give the headlines to the respected author: "... I called Putin and called ..." He was already sent in Washington with an invitation to Trump to expand the format, and will soon be sent here.
  24. Berkut24
    Berkut24 7 August 2019 14: 59
    +1
    Zelensky has traditionally posted his appeal on a page on Facebook.

    And which of them - Putin, Macron or Merkel go to Zelensky's Facebook to read on surzhik?
  25. iouris
    iouris 7 August 2019 15: 26
    0
    Zelensky can not do anything. The Kremlin did not officially recognize it. As whom did he call the Kremlin? Pranker Vova?
  26. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 7 August 2019 15: 29
    0
    Not understood! That is, based on the title, Zelensky called Putin and, with his permission, convened a meeting of the Normandy Four ...
  27. Ros 56
    Ros 56 7 August 2019 15: 43
    0
    Call then, he called, but whether he got through, this is a question. The offal also called, then complained that it had been sent.
  28. Candidate of Military Sciences
    Candidate of Military Sciences 7 August 2019 17: 12
    -1
    The dumb clown finally squealed theatrically ...
    More than I am sure that in Ukraine they have long ago sat down on his ears and stepped on his fingers. Here he is, "poor fellow" by the pipes and grabs when he breaks free.
    Such clowns, for example, under the guise of ordinary citizens are sent to restaurants - to create a scandal and scare away customers. They give out such cool scenes there - the arena is resting!
    I think that neither Russia nor Ukraine has any illusions about Zelensky as the "leader" of the country. And if there is, they will soon pass, don't worry! ).
  29. Lexeus
    Lexeus 7 August 2019 18: 22
    0
    Did he call him by hand? On the outskirts of the direct "technological breakthrough")))))
  30. LeonidL
    LeonidL 7 August 2019 19: 22
    0
    "The corresponding appeal was made public by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy after the death of four servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the conflict zone." - Zelenka got excited and called ... he would be so excited when his bandits killed the people of Donbass.
  31. Antares
    Antares 7 August 2019 22: 06
    -1
    The OOS command did not bother to verify that unloading and death occurred more than four kilometers from the contact line, where the shot of the anti-tank grenade launcher could not reach

    listened to a briefing
    mine 82 caliber bolted to a grenade launcher .., trenches at the forefront.
    The trenches were covered with mines. Fatal wounds. 4 marines gave their lives for the country.
    it’s difficult to judge as much as possible a mine of 82 caliber for a grenade launcher .. not a specialist.
    But the distance there is not 4 km .. advanced to the line of contact.
    briefing itself

    Ankara also had a moment of silence with Erdogan. After a briefing in Kiev, Zelensky flew to Ankara and quickly returned.
    1. German Titov
      German Titov 7 August 2019 23: 48
      +1
      Every day I walk along the "Alley of Angels" in Donetsk. There is a monument on the banks of the Kalmius to children who died at the hands of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. We in Donbass are not vindictive people, we are simply angry and do not suffer from amnesia. If the next punishers were sent to the "forefathers" - and figs with them. Nobody invited them here. Moreover, where did the "puppies" of the Marine Corps come from? You installed billboards on the highways there ("heroic man" and the inscription "We will return to DNR"). Here, to the "mothers" of these "marines", demonstrate billboards on your knees. We are not happy about someone else's death, we are not particularly afraid of ours. From the age of 18 we walk under it (mines, etc.). This team of clowns has been in flight for a long time, and "macaroni" is not "authority" for NM DNR.
  32. German Titov
    German Titov 7 August 2019 23: 14
    0
    What's the loss? We do not see the fact that from 21 "DPR is very fond of" from all over the shooting "". During all this time, Ukraine worked along the "line of contact", "as on plantations." I am sitting in Donetsk and "crying for the death of 07 looters." Hence the conclusion "..... shche" must be cleaned regularly. Anyone interested in his Facebook?