In Ukraine, they proposed to build a wall in the Donbass

In Ukraine, it was proposed to build a wall to end hostilities in the Donbass. The corresponding proposal was voiced by the newly elected deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the party "Servant of the People" journalist Alexander Dubinsky in an interview with the publication "Strana.ua".

Dubinsky proposed two options for ending the hostilities in the Donbass. In his opinion, this can be done by “returning the territory” or “preserving the conflict”. In the second version, he proposes to build a wall on the border of the unrecognized republics, similar to the one that separates Israel and Palestine. At the same time, it is necessary to create such conditions in Ukraine that Donbass itself wants to return back.

We don’t give up anything, but we build a wall, 30 on 30, and in the middle - "no man's land"

- said the deputy, adding that the decision on how to end the conflict in the Donbass should be made by the president of the country. But at the same time, you must first hold a referendum on which to ask only one question - whether it is necessary to return the Donbass to Ukraine.

The fighting can be completed, as in Israel. There, on the border with Palestine, stands a concrete wall about twelve meters long and three meters thick. The truck calls at an automated checkpoint. A Palestinian driver gets out of the truck, gets in a taxi and drives off. This wagon is pulled along the concrete box to check: is there weapon and metal

- said Dubinsky.

Recall that in Ukraine there is already one project to build a wall on the border with Russia, begun under the Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. The “European Wall” project turned out to be one big fiction, which allowed to put huge sums from the country's budget into pockets. In Ukraine, they still cannot calculate the damage caused, although they say that the project was considered one of the most expensive.

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[Vladislav_2]

And the wall as if will interfere with the flight of mines and shells

[private person]

The wall is a gold mine; for 5 years it was built on the border with the Russian Federation (well, how the funds were allocated) how much did not flow into someone’s pockets. And now the same thing on the border with LDNR and again, but the new government will replenish its budget.

[Sky strike fighter]

proposes to build a wall on the border of the unrecognized republics, in the likeness of the one that separates Israel and Palestine.

In the role of Israel, the Donbass, in the role of Palestine, Ukraine, as I understand it. With the gradual return of all the land previously occupied by the Donbass.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

Roll your lip

[private person]

Go stele the asphalt, you will indicate at home.

[krot]

Somewhere it was already) And the walls are getting stronger and stronger .. The Great Sumerian Wall 2.0)

[Baloo]

Quote: krot

Somewhere it was already) And the walls are getting stronger and stronger .. The Great Sumerian Wall 2.0)

And when they have another demobilization, otherwise the ladies have long been lads

have been waiting.

[major147]

What did you want

[Baloo]

Quote: major147

What did you want

Probably like most Russians, so that these eccentrics ceased to jump and kill LDNR.

[major147]

Naturally.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

Bah! So is this big screen your home? Then I do not interfere.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

like the one that divides Israel and Palestine.

Better to build either like the "Mannerheim Line" or like the "Atlantic Wall", they actually existed. You can also try the "Great Ukrainian Wall (similar to the Chinese). After all, the ancient" Ukrainians "dug the Black Sea, they can build a wall.

[Piramidon]

Envy Yatsenyuk. He mowed and shed so many attendants on the fence.

[Iline]

Eh ... The people are getting smaller. It can be seen before them for 4 years they stole everything more or less worthwhile.

[koks]

Quote: Iline

Eh ... The people are getting smaller. It can be seen before them for 4 years they stole everything more or less worthwhile.

Well, how can I say, the land remained fertile .. The Germans remember its composition was taken out on a par with the inhabitants of Ukraine ..

[major147]

Quote: private person

(Well, how did they allocate funds)

- "Where is the money! -Zin?" (from)
“He told me about our hero of the Maidan - Arseniy Yatsenyuk. It turns out that he recently flew to Miami and acquired 24 objects at a price of one to five million dollars each, ”Torgalo said.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Vladislav_2

And the wall as if will interfere with the flight of mines and shells

No, it is not intended for this. And in order to live beautifully.

[den3080]

Galabarodka throws a test wall
If the “build” begins, consider the end of the peerogue and the start of the zrad.
Well, as usual

[Terenin]

Quote: Vladislav_2

And the wall as if will interfere with the flight of mines and shells

. Dubinsky proposes to build a wall on the border of the unrecognized republics,

Lads, with "brilliant" thoughts, well, it's enough to poke the ground in vain, it's a pity for her, divide the allocated money among yourself at once and calm down.

[Igor Borisov_2]

the concrete wall is about twelve meters long and three meters thick

Maybe about twelve meters high? And then some kind of short wall turns out ...

[Major Yurik]

If the Great Wall of China is visible even from space, then the hohlo-walls are not visible even with glasses! The construction of the walls in bandera- stealing the initial capital, and then already as a knurled. In general, Senya rabbit in the know .......

[reservist]

Quote: Major Yurik

If the Great Wall of China is visible even from space, then the hohlo-walls are not visible even with glasses!

probably you need to know where to look ...

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

Ukrainian is easier and easier to carry closer to Moscow. Here I have one grandmother in Voronezh was born. I offer my kindred land to be annexed to Ukraine. And the other in Yerevan. I am for Taming with a piece of Voronezh. It is necessary to stir while the Chinese Far East slowly seize

[reservist]

Quote: Armen Vartanovich Atanesyan

Here I have one grandmother in Voronezh was born. I propose to join my kindred land to Ukraine.

in the sense of updating the fence at the grandmother's site?
don’t delay, otherwise you may not be in time ...

[major147]

Quote: reservist

Quote: Major Yurik

If the Great Wall of China is visible even from space, then the hohlo-walls are not visible even with glasses!

probably you need to know where to look ...

[reservist]

so what now ...

[reservist]

and it doesn’t look like the original is three meters thick ...

[Lopatov]

Silly guy. Or an agent of the Kremlin.
No, for the Donbass this is a good solution. But he is the people's deputy of Ukraine

[Nyrobsky]

A normal solution will be if the wall is put on the administrative border of the LPR with the release of part of the territory under the occupation of the Armed Forces. And yes, normal regions have long had to isolate themselves from Ukraine, and even better at its expense.

[Egoza]

"Loaf, loaf, that's such a height, that's such a width" Well, kids haven't played enough! But in general, just think how many builders have divorced: Yatsenyuk, Trump, now he’s found in the new team!

[koks]

Quote: Egoza

But in fact, just think how many builders got divorced: Yatsenyuk, Trump, now he’s found in the new team!

All according to one pattern, Elena work .. Sometimes it’s funny, but more often it’s sad. It’s necessary to clean it up, otherwise they won’t be able to ..

[Amateur]

The European Shaft project turned out to be one big fiction, which made it possible to pocket huge sums from the country's budget

Another deputy decided to earn extra money in a proven way!

[beeper]

And Dubchinsky is not at all such a ram as at first glance it seems, according to his "Maidan" colleague Pisya (the school "chased" the odious Maydaun-Senya Rabbit) Kulyavlobe knows how it is possible to mega-enrichment easily and with impunity on "building" such a "wall"? !

[Fox1383]

Why not ... BUT within the borders of Donetsk and Lugansk regions and then let them build at least something ... then the inhabitants of LDNR will decide for themselves what is the most important thing ... The main thing is to stop the shelling and the war ... It will be easier for Ukraine itself, such a protracted conflict draws strength distracts from problems that need to be solved now ....

[Sergey39]

Right. And let them hold a referendum. This is just the opinion of the deputy, from which party he would not be, few people are interested.

[parusnik]

in Ukraine, there is already one project to build a wall on the border with Russia, begun under Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. The European Shaft project turned out to be one big fiction that made it possible to pocket huge sums from the country's budget. In Ukraine, they still cannot calculate the damage caused, although they say that the project was considered one of the most expensive.

... A bad example is contagious. "Servant of the people", offered the dough to cut down. From the change of places of the terms, the amount does not change.

[NF68]

Right. Build a wall. And in front of it, dig a deep moat, fill the moat with water and run the AfKykan bark coders there. And immediately heal happily like no one has ever lived before.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

You're kidding, radish. Although right. We ourselves choose such power. Everyone wants to earn money, but few want to work for real. And all the time they are forced to share. They say "your taxes go to you," As Little Johnny said before the presidency. - "Ukraine is a very rich country - how many steals and still something remains" I once voted for Poroshenko. Now for Zelensky. But I feel again, this, they deceived ((. Every country deserves such a power that it tolerates. Russia is very lucky. It's like in a fairy tale. Even a fabulous king))

[NF68]

Quote: Armen Vartanovich Atanesyan

You’re like in a fairy tale. Even the king is fabulous))

At us, the princess had Merkel. It is possible that she is not the best princess, but she still does not look like a fool.

[Mountain shooter]

The most important specialist in the construction of these objects is an estimate

[Loess]

This wagon is pulled through a concrete box to check: are there weapons and metal

And the truck disappears without a trace ... As an option ... And figs you find ...

[yehat]

Quote: Igor Borisov_2

the concrete wall is about twelve meters long and three meters thick

Maybe about twelve meters high? And then some kind of short wall turns out ...

for cutting more and not necessary.
It’s a pity, the law on the distribution of armored pads has not yet passed the law.

[Klingon]

Skakly don’t know what to spend their Tugriks on ?, then give them darts or you need to build a wall. I so directly imagine how they are sitting there in the Rada:, hear Sashko, shob to sprinkle shob to Muscovites to sate? What are the darts in the mattress to buy, what is the point to hang on high? - Ta steen to get out there cheaper

[yehat]

Quote: Fox1383

distracts from problems that need to be solved now

the fact of the matter is that it is beneficial for the authorities to delay the solution of problems and create new ones.

[nPuBaTuP]

30 by 30, and in the middle is "no man's land"

This is not a wall, but a square ...
Although in this building you can collect all the slatters and pour concrete (if they do not fit, fit everyone with pressing)

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

ABOUT ! Again couch warrior! Given that 200 and 300 do not happen among you - divorced ...

[Fedor Sokolov]

One has already built a great wall and "set up" a hut in Miami. Obviously, the new Ukrainian government also wants to warm their hands on this, well, and rightly so stupid suckers who have chosen you need to be milked.

[Prisoner]

Is it their new tradition? Each president has his own fence, and a prime minister’s villa?

"... The fence is always invincible,
Hearts tremble before him
He is our glory and shame for centuries contrary.
And if you want on earth
Leave a memory of yourself
Then build another fence ... "(c)

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Captive

Is it their new tradition?

The three main goals of life: grow a Bandera, plant a liver, build the Great European Wall.

[Lexa-149]

It already looks like a joke !!!!
They have one wall or something ?!
If they fence themselves off with this wall, then LDNR will most likely become part of the Russian Federation or finally decide on an independent state.
Even our idiot officials never had the idea of ​​building a fence between Russia and Chechnya.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

They are not) They are building a fence between themselves and the people)))

[private person]

What do you want? Climb back into the mountains and sit there. Although you are not even real Armenians, as well as homeless people in the open spaces of the former USSR.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

Good internet. You can write anything to people and not be afraid. Only Kadyrov)) Come to me in Odessa, in which I was born and I will explain everything to you)) And here I am because as a servant in the USSR I can communicate with adequate people, there are a lot of them. And look who's homeless, I subscribe real name, and you crap under the nickname

[private person]

It was not me who climbed onto the Ukrainian site and began to give out tips. It was not me who suggested moving the borders closer to my grandmother.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

There are a couple of ours here, but you want to give a footnote to the Ukrainian site, where 90% of Russian comments are written there .... And to move the border to grandma ...))))))) Well, I could not resist))))) Well why are you discussing OUR border so seriously, are YOU really having few other problems?

[private person]

To be honest, I and many others have already gotten this news about your affairs. It is clear that the news about Ukraine is presented to us not from the best side, and statements like yours only confirm your attitude to the Russians.

[koks]

he proposes to build a wall on the border of the unrecognized republics, in the likeness of the one that separates Israel and Palestine.

And I am not surprised .. The Jews are in power in Kiev, everything is as usual. Soon it will come to the "Iron Dome"

[23424636]

Dubinsky’s intelligence is determined by the parameters of the wall without height. There they recruited real grammar students in the Zelensky team, they were taught in American courses to understand dog teams - take, push, stand up But to indicate what to do with the Donbass. This is already too much. Even Benya Kolomoisky has gotten into a sneaky tip; we’ll make elections under the auspices of the OSCE, and after 30 days, the Russians leave. Do you see a little factory there, wrung out at one time is idle. . Dnepropetrovsk in euphoria, but if they continue the war games in the style of Valtsman (Poroshenko). Then the hopes for the world will disappear ... It seems that almost all Jews are there, but specifically

[Evil Babai]

The history of "Mannerheim Line", "Maginot Line", "Siegfried Line", "Atlantic Wall", etc. did not teach? Only the Sumerians in the era of mobile war can build fences and entertain themselves with illusions. Then it's easier to do - a wattle fence with strings on the posts.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

The goal of the fence has been achieved. Look at the villas in the states of Rabbit. Here on a brick, a scoop of cement people forge their welfare !!

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Angry Babay

Then it’s easier to do - wattle with shouts on the posts.

And this will end. But the wattle fence will cost ... Not to mention the wings.

[HAM]

Neither mind nor imagination ..... and Senya Yatsenyuk will give permission? A patent for the wall from him ... although he is plagiarized ...

[Vitaly Tsymbal]

I'm behind the wall, the great Ukrainian wall !!! Just make this wall not of concrete, but of metal. It will be much cheaper ... the Russian Federation gives Ukrainian ships for melting + plus ships at the Nikolaev plant + pipes from the GTS (all the same, after the construction of the TP and the joint venture they will rot in the ground) + monuments to Bandera and K (this is for psychological impact on the LPNR, sho would be afraid for the maydauns, sho would be gidnilis). Smoke into the entire chimney of metallurgical plants throughout Ukraine - GDP growth. Steelworkers will come running from the Polish plantations - they will cook metal, not applesauce ... And the Ukrainian land will bloom like in the past happy "Bandera times", and the Ukrintsy will live behind this wall happily ever after !!!! If Pan Zelensky suddenly reads my proposal and suddenly he will like it - let him know, I will not take money for this, and I will not sue him in the Hague court for the fact that the chana will be nailed to him, and not to my name м.

[Lieutenant Colonel of the USSR Air Force in stock]

Better a wall of 200 kilometers high: neither people, nor cars, nor tanks will pass, shells will not fly ....
Only here the miners can dig tunnels for Russian tanks under the wall .....

[Ros 56]

Yaytsenyuh taught nothing? Oh well.

[Vasyan1971]

... proposes to build a wall on the border of the unrecognized republics, similar to the one that divides Israel and Palestine.

A "likeness" of Euroval won't work anymore?

There, on the border with Palestine, stands a concrete wall about twelve meters long and three meters thick.

The Chinese cry with envy. The wall is twelve meters long!

[LeonidL]

It’s not good to laugh at the wretched ... he didn’t even finish a special school for sick children. For him, 12 is the limit ...

[Mavrikiy]

In Ukraine, it was proposed to build a wall to end hostilities in the Donbass.

No, just to do nothing! And they will also say that we have one root.

[LeonidL]

There may be one root, but the sprouts are different. On one, a strong healthy shoot was inoculated, and on the other, Bandera michurenz grafted a rotten yellow-blakitny buzak.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

This is called chauvinism. The same can be said about the Belarusians. And you can say - "there was Kievan Rus, and Muscovy spun off from it with a people with a mixture of everything (Mordovians, Tatar-Mongols, etc.)

[LeonidL]

It’s not about the people, but about those who "have a black sheep in the family." We remember and honor Kovpak, Rudenko, Shchadenko ... Pavlo Tychina, Lesya Ukrainka ... Olesya Buzina, Paton ... and many, many of those who built, created, defended Ukraine. It is a healthy sturdy root. And Bandera, Shukhevych and the like, before Yarosh and Korchinsky, Poroshenko and others, are budyaks, a weed at the root. Sometimes it happens.

[Atanesyan Armen Vartanovich]

As in any nation. And there is no completely light and dark. And sho you so Jarosh was? Not one crucified boy and raped old woman. And Bandera! At first he fought with the Poles for independence - he received a prison. The Germans released during the capture of Poland - fought with the Russians. The Germans attacked Ukraine - began to fight with the Germans. The Germans put them in a concentration camp, and they killed their brother there. The Russians came again - he fought against the Russians. I will not say anything about Poroshenko. This is only rowing for myself.

[LeonidL]

Yarosh is a typical crawl from the old nest of the OUN-UPA. And there is full of everything behind them and the boys killed and girls raped and old women. Almost all pits on their way and camps have been excavated. You are very bad, you probably know history from Ukrainian textbooks. Bandera in the days of Poland is a terrorist, not a warrior. And convicted as a terrorist. Both the OUN (M) and the OUN (B) were prepared and contained by the Abwehr and the SD. Moreover, the murders of Jews, Poles and Russians were prepared and planned in advance, long before the start of the war. From the Ukrainian nationalists, units were formed that carried out not only sabotage missions in the rear of the Red Army as part of the Brandenburg-800), but the same people in German uniforms carried out mass executions in the captured cities, for example, in Lvov, where the Wehrmacht entered before. The Germans imprisoned Bandera for arbitrariness , more precisely, the OUN (B) got into the game of the SD and the Abwehr, having declared independence, seemingly with the consent of the Germans from the Abwehr, in the manner of the Croatian, and Hitler reassured him and shrugged his tail through the SD. From among the nationalists formed a mass of police battalions, marked by bloody fanaticism, one of them "Khatyn." The same handwriting in Odessa ... Bandera, not to mention the Melnikovites, never fought with the Germans. Work was carried out in the German archives, but it was revealed one case of an attack on German warehouses, and not a single German serviceman was injured.Moreover, all the caches were built and equipped with German engineering troops, and the actions of the OUN-UPA after the return of the Red Army were coordinated by the command of the Wehrmacht. Bandera destroyed not only and not so much Soviet soldiers as the population of Ukraine, Poland, Czechoslovakia ...
You are not informed. Therefore, I recommend reading: the books by Alexander Dyukov "The Elimination of the" Hostile Element "and" What Soviet People Fought For "- the books are written only on the basis of documents and eyewitness testimonies, again confirmed by documents. There is truth about the" heroes "and the UPA and the Baltic punishers.

[Lord of the Sith]

In Ukraine, they proposed to build a wall in the Donbass

Let the netting set up, for a couple of billion bucks))

[ananias mudishev]

Well, what, Yatsenyuk chopped the dough on the wall and this one also wants to live in Miami

[Candidate of Military Sciences]

It is necessary to invite President Zelensky to give a concert in the Donbass, while he can still walk and do something. At least something in the history of Ukraine will remain in the end.

[LeonidL]

Dreams of the new Rabbit for cutting another bag of green cabbage! But the idea may not be bad - to fence off the healthy part of Donbass (LPR-DPR) from the Banderov-Nazi cancer afflicted with leprosy and metastases, Absurdistan. Let them heal first, and then we'll see.

[Awaz]

they need to build a wall around the remnants of Ukraine, so that people would not scatter ...

[valeryb]

In Ukraine, they proposed to build a wall to end hostilities in Donbass. The corresponding proposal was voiced by the newly elected deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the Servant of the People party, journalist Alexander Dubinsky

Weak trololo of course, it was necessary to say, but Russia would pay for the wall, then everyone would have believed at once, and no one would have been worried.