The probable reason for the smoke of the tank of the Iranian crew at the Tank Biathlon is named

Iranian representatives commented on the contingency that arose with a tank Iranian crew while passing one of the obstacles on the biathlon track. We are talking about doing exercises as part of the Tank Biathlon in Alabino near Moscow. Recall that “Tank Biathlon” is part of the international army games program “Armi-2019”.

After passing an obstacle from the engine compartment of the tank of the Iranian team, thick black smoke fell. The armored car, having walked a few tens of meters behind the obstacle, was stopped, the crew left it, and fire brigades on duty rushed towards it. At the time of problems with the service engine, they tried to find out from the tank commander T-72 what the reason was for the tank biathlon site. There was no answer at the time of the competition.

As a result, smoke on the tank was eliminated after the firefighters flooded the engine compartment with foam.

Iranian experts say that the reason for this was the "technical" overheating of the T-72 engine with an oil leak. Earlier it was reported that overheating itself occurred due to the fact that the crew did not open the blinds of the cooling system.

Thus, the technical and operational error made by the Iranian crew could become the main cause of smoke.

Comments

[siberalt]

The reason is commonplace. This smoke from a fire in the Siberian taiga. But seriously, who cares that the athlete’s tire has burst on the bicycle, except for himself?

[bessmertniy]

Not at all. It was the will of Allah.

[Victor_B]

Quote: siberalt

This smoke from a fire in the Siberian taiga.

No joke ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

No joke ...

Not quite smart and cynical

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Victor_B

No joke ...

Not quite smart and cynical

Liberalism, sir gives ...

[vladcub]

In fact, for such a "joke" in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, they may "joke" on the face

[Victor_B]

Quote: vladcub

In fact, for such a "joke" in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, they may "joke" on the face

Come on you!
Well, a man joked unsuccessfully.
Look how generously they provided the minuses for this. Probably more will be.
Well, in the face it is superfluous.

[Astra wild]

Of course they will be delighted with such a "joke". Moreover, they intend to keep the fires going so that such "smart guys" can joke.
There in a fever can and not only in face

[Dechterev]

Quote: vladcub

In fact, for such a "joke" in the Krasnoyarsk Territory, they may "joke" on the face

but he at least reminded some mkadyshes that there is such a problem ....

[Adimius38]

in fact, they’ll joke that in the face, it is necessary to start with the institution of criminal cases against the local authorities

[vladcub]

Perhaps the governor of Krasnoyarsk was given: "a subtle allusion to fat circumstances." Of course, in a clever way, the local authorities had to "spin" themselves, and not wait for a command from the top.

[dolfi1]

I think this is not a joke, but sarcasm. This is how a person expresses his indignation that the forest is on fire. What kind of person in their minds would be delighted by fires in their country? Yes, even in a foreign country, the planet is one, and the forests are its lungs. I think many offered help, apparently you refused. It's a pity. We have got the Arabs on fire all summer, in Syria they have also adopted "their experience", I don’t want to think that you also had arson, but rather negligence.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: dolfi1

not a joke, but sarcasm. So a man expresses his indignation

Such "people" today - The "people" had a crisis of the genre, because temporarily there was nothing to lead. This is because last year in the same area burned brighter and hotter, but in large areas, yeah. So what? Yes, not a single individual snorted, for they had other topics. About two years ago, illegal stalls with shaverma were demolished in Moscow. So what would you think: such a "wave of the people's anger" has gone ... And Ksyushad herself led this protest (where are the stalls with the shaverma - and where is she ) This is our part of society - the liberd is called. So all these ooh-ahs are for show - not from a big mind, and they don’t smell of emotions there either.

[dolfi1]

Well, the "liberd" trend is present everywhere, and unfortunately we have enough of them. But the forest is still very sorry, it's a disaster.

[vik669]

So the woodpeckers flew into the smoke and grunted!

[Valery Valery]

Those who watch the competition can observe that the crews of Iran are the least trained. They shoot worst of all (not a single target is hit), worse than others they go the distance.
And this despite the fact that the crews of the Islamic Republic consist only of officers.
The level of BP in Iran is very low.

[sir.jonn]

Quote: Valery Valery

Those who watch the competition can observe that the crews of Iran are the least trained. They shoot worst of all (not a single target is hit), worse than others they go the distance.
And this despite the fact that the crews of the Islamic Republic consist only of officers.
The level of BP in Iran is very low.

Iran does not have the T-72 in service, they have to master it specifically for the Tank Biathlon. It would be easier for the Iranians to bring their zulfiqar, as the Chinese team did.

[hohol95]

Tanks T-72S "Shildan", an export model of the MBT T-72V, are produced in Iran under license from Russia.

They were and probably still are in service.

[K-612-O]

Hello, come. Iran has 450-480 T-72M1 / C1 tanks. A third of the available tanks, and Zulfakarov about 100. So it was possible to prepare. Yes, and Zulfakar is developed on the basis of 72 matches.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: sir.jonn

Iran does not have T-72 in service; they have to master it on purpose

T-72 are produced in Iran under license. Based on the T-72, the Carrar tank was created in Iran. To say that the Iranians do not know the T-72 is to carry nonsense.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: sir.jonn

Iran does not have the T-72 in service, they have to master it specifically for the Tank Biathlon. It would be easier for the Iranians to bring their zulfiqar, as the Chinese team did.

They would burn Zulfikar at the start.
It seems that in Iran, most of the energy is invested in how look generals and soldiers.
image is everything

[vladcub]

Image to break all the enemies!

[nesvobodnaja]

There is more than an image. This is a kind of disguise. The eye is not visible, everything seems to be the same.

[pru-pavel]

Mattresses still kirdyk if poke. And what we saw is just a smoke screen used by the Iranian crew as a response defense to the vile, veiled Mossad provocation right at the army games

[Altai72]

And despite the fact that only "experienced and best" Iranian tankers arrived here.

[vladcub]

If these are "experienced crews" then ... I am glad that not the commander of the Iranian armored forces

[Astra wild]

Let Vladkub not worry: in the Islamic Republic of Iran there are 10 who want to command without him. And EVERYTHING is sure that they will be five times better to command

[Nychego]

Quote: Valery Valery

The level of BP in Iran is very low.

And these people dream to pile on the Israeli woman ... The result of the war, if it begins in the coming months, it’s a little predictable.

[vladcub]

In words, you can get the moon from the sky, but in kind. And so: "heap rape"

[Astra wild]

Read carefully what you wrote.

[Serg koma]

Quote: Valery Valery

however, the crews of the Islamic Republic consist only of officers.
The level of BP in Iran is very low.

The adventures of this crew with the "Cliff" - the top of the "digestibility" of the BP Especially killed as climbed into the gap of the hatch

[Serg koma]

Tank biathlon full version broadcast

Watch the "adventure" with a machine gun from 38:38 to 40:30

[voyaka uh]

"The PS level in Iran is very low" ////
----
But they, of course, will tear the Americans, like a Tuzik heating pad.
In this, the whole forum converges unanimously.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: voyaka uh

Americans, of course, they will tear, like a Tuzik heating pad.

Were they going to move tank wedges into the Arizona desert? And yes, a striped "heating pad" does not have to be wagged for a long time and tediously, it is enough to pierce it, at least in one place.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: voyaka uh

But they, of course, will tear the Americans, like a Tuzik heating pad.

The fact that they will not tear mattresses is a no brainer. Army budgets and technical dominance are not comparable.
Here the whole question is losses. Will they be acceptable to the United States or not ..... and what to do next, will the whole Middle East go into the distance and will a new wave of terrorism sweep the world .....

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Ramzaj99

The fact that they will not tear mattresses is a no brainer. Army budgets and technical dominance are not comparable.

fight with skill, not just budgets.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

fight with skill, not just budgets.

Here at least be able to at least not be able .....
And when the enemy does not enter into direct contact and destroys from a distance to which you cannot reach, skills will not help .....
Or forgot Iraq and Yugoslavia .....
A week of bombing with axes and aircraft without entering the air defense zone, and a couple of weeks after the destruction of air defense from unattainable heights. Then the helicopters and MLRS dokromsayut the remains. There will be losses, just because of the craftsmen in Yugoslavia, but that will not change anything ....

[Maki Avellevich]

There are many examples of victories of small armies over large ones.
This is possible.
Although as a rule "God is always on the side of the big battalions"

[Buffet]

I wonder whose expense will restore it?

[Grits]

Quote: Valery Valery

Iran’s crews are the least trained. They shoot worst of all (not a single target is hit), worse than others they go the distance.

If we put our tankers on the Iranian Zulfikar and force them to drive not along the training ground that you know like the back of your hand, but through an unfamiliar one, then I think the success of our tankers would be less deafening than yesterday.

[Simargl]

Quote: Valery Valery

Worst of all shoot (no targets hit)

Quote: Valery Valery

The level of BP in Iran is very low.

Along the way, the team recruited from the Arma and / or Vot gamers will "make" the Iranians.
Are they the sworn friends with the largest military budget who catch the bait?

[svp67]

Quote: Valery Valery

The level of BP in Iran is very low.

But I, as a tanker, could have questions for those who were preparing this tank. And why didn’t the software system work? And if it worked, then why didn't you put it out? What were the cylinders filled with and who checked them?
But, judging by the video, this is not a fire in the MTO, but a failure of the engine itself, most likely the fuel equipment. So, there are more questions to our tank manufacturers, UVZ. And the fact that new, "modernized" engines of the B-2 family periodically "smoke" is no longer a secret

[rocket757]

Those. crew burst? or is there not enough control system, warning the crew about an emergency / normal situation?
Tankers, you have the floor! Like, the official version, quite or simply when preparing the tank .... were underworked!
However, the crew should know your tank? check?

[AUL]

Quote: rocket757

Those. crew burst?

To paraphrase the old truth somewhat (so as not to be banned), I recall:
-Give a nearby crystal stick, so he will break the thing and cut his hands!
This is how stupid it is necessary not to look at the sensors in order to burn the engine! Or looked, but did not understand what it is?

[rocket757]

Quote: AUL

This is how stupid it is necessary not to look at the sensors in order to burn the engine!

It has been suggested that the driver drove the whole piece of iron without looking at anything!
It happens.

[Simargl]

Quote: rocket757

It happens.

So the main physical load in this biathlon is on the driver.

[rocket757]

One-z-z-guild is punishable! Alright in the competition, but in battle?
In short, thoroughly nadot!

[Simargl]

Quote: rocket757

Alright in the competition, but in battle?

In battle, the commander is the most loaded, as I understand it.

[Krasnodar]

Fix tricks, not otherwise!

[vladcub]

And I thought that this Mossad was engaged in sabotage

[Krasnodar]

The Israeli six of the American imperialists carried out a vile operation to discredit the freedom-loving Iranian tankers in the eyes of all progressive mankind, but the provocation failed! After the engine ignited due to the sabotage of the Zionists, we still believe in the victory of the Persian comrades over the forces of world reaction!

[vladcub]

Such people will definitely "win" and not only some Izrailishka, but the entire BV at once

[Krasnodar]

In place of the White House, the mausoleum of Imad Mugniy will be put, and Washington will be renamed Ayatollabad! In fact, it happens, nothing bad happened.

[Victor_B]

Already reported.
Forgot the driver to open the blinds after bathing.
It turns out that before driving into the water, the driver closes the blinds, and having left the water, he must open them.
He did not open, the fan did not turn on, and the engine overheated.
It seems so stated.

[Destiny]

Quote: Victor_B

Forgot driver open the blinds

Exactly, and here we are beginning to conspire the world behind the scenes and invent. This is all America to blame. Crew clearanceInspired, before the shooting, the Commander-in-Chief's prize was amicably and cheerfully celebrated the birthday of one of the conscripts of our warhead, so the flagship artilleryman of the base, seeing this business almost tearfully asked, guys, clean the wedge at "76", and at "630" that "add oil, there are lower risks level. Yes, everything will be fine, for the first time, perhaps, we will take the prize ... And what do you think? Correctly, we did it in the morning for the whole naval base ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

He did not open, the fan did not turn on, and the engine overheated.
It seems so stated.

And this is most likely the cause of the fire.
In the excitement of the competition, it is likely that the driver simply forgot to open the blinds.
Probably there are no skills to switch from one mode to another

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Lipchanin

And this is most likely the cause of the fire.
In the excitement of the competition, it is likely that the driver simply forgot to open the blinds.
Probably there are no skills to switch from one mode to another

it happens, but why didn’t they hit the same target?
probably also no precision shooting skills.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Maki Avellievich

why didn’t they hit one target?

I wonder who is preparing the car? Crew, or "host"? Risks on the gun (picture) - they are not just for nothing, but in the case

[Glory1974]

Forgot the driver to open the blinds after bathing.
It turns out that before driving into the water, the mechanical driver closes the blinds, and having left the water should open them

This explains everything, but for the technology of the middle of the 20 century. And now there is the technical ability to level the human factor. Where is the automation? Where are the alarm facilities, etc.? Why in peacetime, on the training track does the engine fail? And what will happen in battle?
At the first sign of overheating, the siren should screech, the robot should say that there is a danger of overheating and demand to open the blinds. Are there really these penny systems on a machine worth several million bucks?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: glory1974

This explains everything, but for the technology of the mid-20th century.

And then they did it

T-72 "Ural" - the Soviet medium and main tank.

The most massive tank of the second generation [8]. Adopted by the Armed Forces of the USSR since 1973

[Glory1974]

They started to do it then, and recently upgraded. But apparently, they didn’t modernize what was needed.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: glory1974

But apparently they have not modernized what is needed.

First of all, they upgrade weapons and defense.
And the blinds apparently did not get into the modernization system.
Probably no one had thought that the tank would be controlled by "teapots"

[Astra wild]

Colleagues, tank crews, answer, and now we will begin to fantasize

[Cat man null]

Quote: Astra wild

answer, and now we will begin to fantasize

It is impossible to make a perfect "foolproof".

I saw how when the AZR (breaker circuit breaker, fuse, in short) worked, a fighter jammed it (in the on position. And so that it didn’t work !!) a branch broken off from the bush. As a result - ta da-a-aamm - the whole chain burns, which this AZR tried to save.

All wet fantasies about "a tank that looks after and cares for itself" are nonsense, patented. And you can destroy a tank in many different ways. One of them is the movement with closed blinds, which in this case was "successfully applied".

[Victor_B]

Quote: glory1974

Where is the automation? Where are the alarm facilities, etc.?

In April 1991, as a partisan, I ended up in a separate repair regiment of the Far Eastern Military District.
There were huge exercises, and we, like, had to repair damaged equipment at the training ground.
I got the P-15. Radar. There weren’t even any schemes for her. I had to find it myself, so I found friends in the air defense system.
And then the whole Gavkom of the Army, V. I. Varennikov, Army General enters the workshop!
And to me, I’m getting older, asks a question!
Is it possible to connect this station to the ACS? Army General!
When I told him that it was produced in 1958, he waved his hand and then shook my hand with that same hand.
That's it!
Here you and automation and cybernetics in one bottle.
But the driver saw everything was overheating, but pulled to the finish line.

[Glory1974]

But the driver saw everything was overheating, but pulled to the finish line.

If I had, I opened the blinds.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

But the driver saw everything was overheating, but pulled to the finish line.

Yes, most likely he did not see anything except the finish line.
Seconds, fractions of a second pulled for the result

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Lipchanin

Seconds, fractions of a second pulled for the result

By the way, except for jokes: yesterday the Cubans won the race, ahead of the Vietnamese crew by only one second. Despite the fact that the guys first participated in tank competitions. And they also shot decently. And the Persians, apparently, were worried.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Paranoid50

By the way, except for jokes: yesterday the Cubans won the race, ahead of the Vietnamese crew by only one second. Despite the fact that the guys first participated in tank competitions. And they also shot decently. And the Persians, apparently, were worried.

Arabs and Persians always have an overflow in war.

[Grits]

Quote: Lipchanin

Seconds, fractions of a second pulled for a result

What seconds are there - they are specifically behind - there it was minutes.
By the way, the Armenians surprised - they also lingered, unlike last year.

[Cetron]

Last year, they tumbled at a speed.

[vladcub]

"rush is needed in case of diarrhea", otherwise: "it will turn out as always"

[BISMARCK94]

Quote: glory1974

Forgot the driver to open the blinds after bathing.
It turns out that before driving into the water, the mechanical driver closes the blinds, and having left the water should open them

This explains everything, but for the technology of the middle of the 20 century. And now there is the technical ability to level the human factor. Where is the automation? Where are the alarm facilities, etc.? Why in peacetime, on the training track does the engine fail? And what will happen in battle?
At the first sign of overheating, the siren should screech, the robot should say that there is a danger of overheating and demand to open the blinds. Are there really these penny systems on a machine worth several million bucks?

Protection from the fool will never be perfect

[Grits]

Quote: glory1974

At the first sign of overheating, the siren should screech, the robot should say that there is a danger of overheating and demand to open the blinds. Are there really these penny systems on a machine worth several million bucks?

I completely agree. And not a small dial on the panel, but smart automation, like on an airplane, which will warn you about malfunctions in a womanish soft voice.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Gritsa

, and smart automation, like on an airplane, which will warn of malfunctions in a female soft voice.

There is a video where the pilot removes the landing gear during the takeoff run .. then he said that this very "soft female voice" turned on and began to say "Remove the landing gear", well, what sounds after takeoff. So he removed it automatically.
This is to the fact that no automation will help if a person decides to do it his own way

[garri-lin]

Firstly, not with a soft female voice but with a praporsky roar, preferably with spray.

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Gritsa

I completely agree. And not a small dial on the panel, but smart automation, like on an airplane, which will warn you about malfunctions in a womanish soft voice.

it will be more reliable to make automation that will weed out woodpeckers at the entrance to the tank.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Gritsa

smart automation, like on an airplane, which will warn you about malfunctions in a female soft voice

Have fun. Have you ever been in a tank (in motion)? That's just a "soft female voice" there is not enough

Google, by the way, the word "laryngophone", and think - why exactly this shnyaga (and not a concert microphone, for example) is used in the tank.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

They lack professional knowledge of this technique and its use.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

They lack professional knowledge of this technique and its use.

And where do they come from. We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.
And they had very little time.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

They lack professional knowledge of this technique and its use.

And where do they come from. We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.
And they had very little time.

External skills for controlling a tank can still be learned during this period, what they had (opening the blinds was probably shown to them in the first place and told what this problem could lead to). It’s not a fact that everyone gets into the training right away, many at once troops and there they undergo training.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

External skills to control the tank can still be learned

These are the external ones. Levers and pedals.

opening the blinds they probably first showed

Why in the first? Without this, the car will not budge?
And take into account the excitement when passing obstacles. Not brought to automatism skill flew out of my head and all.

.Not a fact that everyone gets into the training right away

The fact is that all. No one after quarantine of a soldier for leverage of a combat vehicle will not put.
Look who is in the crews of our cars. Not conscripts

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Without this, the car will not budge, skills not brought to automatism have flown out of their heads.

And how were they then, traveling all this time, if the equipment without this does not budge. Their motor caught fire while they were driving.

After quarantine, no one will put soldiers behind the levers of a car

Before you drive him, they teach him. And training can take place in the troops. It’s not necessary, they teach this in training manuals, many immediately fall into units and undergo training there.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

And how were they then, traveling all this time, if the equipment without this does not budge.

Default blinds always open.

Their motor caught fire while they were driving

Read the article. There is written in Russian in white

Earlier it was reported that overheating itself occurred due to the fact that the crew did not open the blinds of the cooling system.

And he closed them so that water would not get into the engine when passing a water obstacle

Before you drive him, they teach him.

Aha. "I'm sitting in a tank, and in the tank the wheel"
And where is it located there?

.Not necessarily, in training this is taught,

Mandatory. In training.

many immediately fall into units and undergo training there.

In the warhead there is no time to teach the basics. There is already ongoing training, bringing crews to perfection. Prepare for warfare.
And for training there are "tutorials"

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Serega, in the city of Khabarovsk, there are motorized rifle troops (common people call the red river) and there is a tank unit, they get there to serve not only with training and straight from the transit, they are also taught in the unit. They destroyed the tank because of their stupidity. As for them, it was nice to hang him.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, and where do they come from.

Did they see the tank for the first time? Especially the 72nd, which is known from the time of the Iranian-Iraqi, which was produced under their license (T-72S)

[Serg koma]

Quote: Lipchanin

We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.

In the crew, mechvod ml.l-t. I doubt that only "six months" experience has, again "the prestige of the country" - any schoolboy would hardly have been taken ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Serg Koma

In the crew, mechvod ml.l-t. I doubt that only "six months" experience has, again "the prestige of the country" - any schoolboy would hardly have been taken ...

I spoke about the troops.
We have no conscripts at the Biathlon

[Serg koma]

Quote: Lipchanin

We have no conscripts at the Biathlon

We do not, in other teams there.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Serg Koma

We do not, in other teams there.

See the correspondence from here

And where do they come from. We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.

And you and your climbed

In the crew, mechvod ml.l-t. I doubt that only "six months" experience has, again "the prestige of the country" - any schoolboy would hardly have been taken ...

But this post was ignored

Look who is in the crews of our cars. Not conscripts

[Serg koma]

Quote: Lipchanin

We have no conscripts at the Biathlon

In 2018 year

"But not only Armenians, but also Russians and others support us, because everyone is interested in how conscripts can reach the world level and compete with very strong professional teams. This is a very bright interest," Feroyan said, adding that members of the Armenian team are guys who have served in the army from six months to 1,5 years, and they prepared for biathlon for a maximum of 2,5 months.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Serg Koma

In 2018 year

Why are you bothering me?
We talked about training tankers in OUR troops.
You got into the middle of the conversation, without understanding, you began to insert your 5 cents.
Here is the beginning of our conversation

They lack professional knowledge of the technique and use of e

And where do they come from. We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.
And they had very little time.

Where did you see the Armenians here?

[Serg koma]

Quote: Lipchanin

Why are you bothering me?
We talked about training tankers in OUR troops.

Why are you bothering me? When talking about IRANIAN tankers, and you interfere with statements about the "six months" training and declare that there are no conscripts in biathlon. You were given a short answer -

Quote: Serg Koma

We do not have, in other teams there.

Read ATTENTIVELY what you wrote

Quote: Lipchanin

Yes, and where do they come from. We have 6 months

and the answer to your "yes and where do they come from" ....

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Serg Koma

When it comes to IRANIAN tank crews,

Hedgehog
I repeat once more, the negotiation began without you, and it was about OUR tank crews.
Read carefully

Lipchanin (Sergey) 5 Today, 08:03
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Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
They lack professional knowledge of this technique and its use.

And where do they come from. We have 6 months at least in "training" this knowledge and skills are imparted.
And they had very little time.

You got in the middle of the conversation
Still.

Lipchanin (Sergey) 5 Today, 08:53
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Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS
External skills to control the tank can still be learned

These are the external ones. Levers and pedals.
opening the blinds they probably first showed

Why in the first? Without this, the car will not budge?
And take into account the excitement when passing obstacles. Not brought to automatism skill flew out of my head and all.
.Not a fact that everyone gets into the training right away

The fact is that all. No one after quarantine of a soldier for leverage of a combat vehicle will not put.

Look who is in the crews of our cars. Not conscripts

[vladcub]

Quite right, they learned two days ago that they were going to biathlon, and yesterday they heard that the Russians have a T-72 tank, so it turns out?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: vladcub

Quite right, they learned two days ago that they were going to biathlon, and yesterday they heard that the Russians have a T-72 tank, so it turns out?

It doesn’t matter when they find out.
You watch a movie about them
The impression is that they first saw the tank

[Victor_B]

Personally, I was impressed that Russia put 105 on biathlon (one hundred and five!!!) cars! Brand new cars!
Which are so godless all sorts of Iranians, Sudanese, etc. will pound!
After all, they will not go to junk later, but to the troops!

[Boris55]

Quote: Victor_B

After all, they will not go to junk later, but to the troops!

They will then be finalized by design engineers, and we have something to supply to the troops without these.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: Victor_B

After all, they will not go to junk later, but to the troops!

They will then be finalized by design engineers, and we have something to supply to the troops without these.

There is nothing to diminish or add!
Licked like a Faberge cat.
The modernization potential has been exhausted.
Will undergo repairs - and the troops.

[Boris55]

Quote: Victor_B

The modernization potential has been exhausted.

For these, it’s possible, and when designing new ones, the experience of these is quite useful.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Boris55

Quote: Victor_B

The modernization potential has been exhausted.

For these, it’s possible, and when designing new ones, the experience of these is quite useful.

The following are already in service.
T-90.
In general, they could be called T-72-BVGD-2-3-4 or even like (like MI-8 MTSH ... soon there will not be enough letters in the alphabet), because this is an extremely sawn T-72.

[Boris55]

Quote: Victor_B

The following are already in service.

There is no limit to perfection (T-72-BVGD-2-3-4 ...). There is a T-90, but the design idea does not stand still. Any operating experience, especially in extreme situations, is only to our advantage.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Boris55

There is a T-90, but the design idea does not stand still.

So she went to Armata.
Think.
For the T-90 is already a dead end. Defense can no longer be improved.
For active defense for them, apparently, "the ataman has no gold reserve" (c)

[vladcub]

Must consider

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

After all, they will not go to junk later, but to the troops!

Aha. Do you think Russia has become impoverished that there is nothing to put in the troops?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lipchanin

Aha. Do you think Russia has become impoverished that there is nothing to put in the troops?

Actually, commentators initially say that these tanks are new. All.
Directly from UVZ.
Well, where to put them?
After all, they are strong, that ... (in this place there should have been some kind of animal. Fur)

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

Well, where to put them?

In our Lipetsk Aviation Center, aircraft of the same age and older than this tank are stored. When I asked why they were being stored. They answered me, while the pilots who are able to lift them into the air are alive, they will be stored.
In time, God forbid war, everything will go. And there are many such storages. As far as I know, not all small arms from the time of the Second World War went into re-melting. I'm already silent about AK

[armata_armata]

Personally, I was impressed that Russia put 105 (one hundred and five !!!) cars at the biathlon! Brand new cars!

There, the newest one is at least not less than 15 years old, and those that are represented have actually had 30 years of experience

[Victor_B]

Quote: armata_armata

There, the newest one is at least not less than 15 years old, and those that are represented have actually had 30 years of experience

This is a completely sawn T-72!
Dvigun is more powerful. The transmission is finished. SLA changed. The sight is different.
Deep modernization. Almost reached the T-90.

[armata_armata]

This is a completely sawn T-72!
Dvigun is more powerful. The transmission is finished. SLA changed. The sight is different.
Deep modernization. Almost reached the T-90

This is certainly good, but the real age of cars from this does not become less. There are our be-12s, amekosy b-52s are also being modernized, but their language cannot be called new machines

[Victor_B]

Quote: armata_armata

This is certainly good, but the real age of cars from this does not become less.

And how old are American Abrams? Already much more.
Already there is no factory! Absolutely!
An armored hull is taken (it is iron and very thick), hollowed out completely, sandblasting, everything else is taken apart "to a screw" and a new filling is stuffed.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Victor_B

Personally, I was impressed that Russia put 105 (one hundred and five !!!) cars at the biathlon! Brand new cars!

These are almost two tank regiments!

[113262a]

As it was 72 tanks for the poor, it remained! As there were MTO covers on two bolts, it is! For regular diving there! But the tank, which, in principle, does not happen! Actually, for the eighties, this biathlon is just a toy. And you are in the Arctic ... Russian main battle tanks T-80UE-1 took part in the Tank Biathlon competition for the first time.

They were performed by female crews who demonstrated a very high level of skill.
It should be noted that the gas turbine tanks themselves looked very dignified. They have excellent dynamic characteristics, excellent smoothness and a good fire control system.

It was also striking how, thanks to a closed machine-gun mount (ZPU) and perfect sights, the commanders very quickly and accurately hit the targets of the helicopters. It is in this that this modification of the "eighties" is significantly superior to the T-72B3 with openly mounted 12,7-mm machine guns.
Military experts have repeatedly noted: the experience of local wars suggests that all modern tanks should be equipped with closed ZPUs. Their presence will allow not only more effective combat missions, but also protect the lives and health of personnel.

[IL-18]

If the tank biathlon would be transferred to the T-80, then the watchability of this show would have come to naught. When Armata goes into a large series, then she will not be allowed to the biathlon just because of the loss of entertainment.
Although, if you make the right number of T-55s prepared for such competitions, for example, and distribute all of them a week before the start for training, it would be a real and objective measure to determine whose crew is cooler. And for those who brought their tanks, in a separate classification.

[Vasyan1971]

... the overheating itself occurred due to the fact that the crew did not open the shutters of the cooling system.

Yeah An agitated driver, go ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Vasyan1971

The driver was worried, come on ..

And most likely a lack of experience

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Lipchanin

And most likely a lack of experience

Well, if the Iranians consider it possible to send an inexperienced crew to such events, then it means that they themselves are evil Buratins. And they also decided to fight with the "world hegemon" ...

[113262a]

And motor kirdyk!

[rotmistr60]

the crew did not open the blinds of the cooling system.

Banal human factor. It happens. Next time will be more attentive. Participating in the tank biathlon, Iranian tankers gain experience that may come in handy in the future.

[Victor_B]

Quote: rotmistr60

the crew did not open the blinds of the cooling system.

Banal human factor. It happens. Next time will be more attentive. Participating in the tank biathlon, Iranian tankers gain experience that may come in handy in the future.

Just (libero-on) at whose expense a banquet (screwed dvigun)? Red money launches into the wind. It was necessary to give them to PionEram and PensionEram! (liberoids off)
Hindus in 2017 on their T-90 "Bishma" burned two dviguns! But these are their cars and they brought them from India.
The rollers also flew away from the Chinese.

[rotmistr60]

At whose expense is the banquet (screwed dvigun)?

There is no specific information about the engine. Regarding the "banquet" - it is possible that financial losses due to the fault of the crew are borne by the country that this crew represents. Have you read the contract (and it simply must be)?

[Victor_B]

Quote: rotmistr60

There is no specific information regarding the engine.

Yes, it seems everyone has already unsubscribed ...
It is a mistake.
Last year’s winner stood in the star, and explained.

[Victor_B]

What kind of an organism has he run up to?
Minus shoved everyone.

Quote: Victor_B

It is a mistake.
Last year’s winner stood in the star, and explained.

Did I come up with this? Watch the reports.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Victor_B

What kind of an organism has he run up to?

Conscientious!
Two pieces.
Under all my posts marked!

[bald]

Of course not much to enjoy. The load on the engine is understandable, but if it could not stand it, this particular tank, then how it will behave in more extreme conditions, at home. Most likely caring for the tank and how was it voiced not the opening of the blinds, then whom did they send to the competition, by what principle?

[armata_armata]

There is no warning lamp about engine overheating on the t-72?

[Victor_B]

Quote: armata_armata

There is no warning lamp about engine overheating on the t-72?

There he was not enough 150 meters to the finish line.
They just burned the engine and drove, but "did not shmogla".

[Sergei 23]

And why did not the fire extinguishing system work? Experts are silent.

[Victor_B]

Yes, he did not catch fire.
Smoke fell from the exhaust.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Sergey 23

And why the fire extinguishing system did not work

Is she there?

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Sergey 23

And why the fire extinguishing system did not work

Is she there?

Required!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

Required!

I do not know, therefore I asked

[Lieutenant colonel]

The mechanic - when entering the water, he must close the blinds (noticed how the 80s entered the water? You don't "fantone" on it! And after leaving, open it so that more intensive cooling of the engine would begin. But! - B-series engines previously installed on the T72 were not so demanding in terms of operating time with insufficient cooling! But the forced B92C (if I am not mistaken in the letters after the numbers) is more "sensitive" to overheating. As a result, the block was most likely destroyed with damage to the oil channels. At the same time, the temperature of the coolant and oil on the driver's dashboard very quickly reached critical values ​​that the fur of water and "blinked". In this case, the signal lamp still comes on - oil temperature! Elementary lack of training of the crew. There are no complaints about the car ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Turbine inlet blinds will flood

There he has such a "turret" bolted behind the tower - it sticks out above the tower. That's where the air sucks.

[Lieutenant colonel]

This is not a turret, but an air intake box, in order to "take" the cleanest air from the top of the tank. The air above the tower is always cleaner than at the level of the fenders. On the box, in the upper part there is a "hood" which, opening up, provides air intake almost from the very roof of the tower (for some reason in biathlon it was in a rigid design and turned towards the stern of the tank). The box is rigidly connected to the stern part of the tower and provides direct air access to the inlet louvers of the compressors at an angle of installation of the tower 32-00, in all other positions it is displaced to the side. In the position in which it was installed at the time of the speech, it does not protect against water ingress - from the word at all. For installation of OPVT devices, the design of the box provides for its forward deflection. To start the engine in particularly cold conditions, there are two dampers in the box that block air from the upper hemisphere of the tank. At the same time, a special device is installed on the power turbine outlet splitter, which directs part of the exhaust gases to the turbine inlet.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

This is not a turret, but an air intake box

Well, I did not write so many letters.
He just pointed with his finger - see "turret". For air. So that in addition to dust and it was safe to flop down. (Thinking) Probably ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel

Elementary untrained crew. There are no complaints about the car .....

Yes, no one presents. Everyone knows that this is a very reliable car.

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lipchanin

it is a very reliable car

Not properly!
Incredibly strong! Wildly!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

Incredibly strong! Wildly!

So our technology is therefore valued in the world.
Safety margin laid fabulous
I don’t remember in which city the T-34 was removed from the pedestal, filled with fuel, brought in and he drove off.
They wrote about a recent similar case in the Donbass.
It seems KV was also removed, refueled and he drove

[Victor_B]

Quote: Lipchanin

It seems KV was also removed, refueled and he drove

EC-3.
They started it right on the pedestal and moved out under its own power!
There is a video.
Only the gun is not working ...

[Rus_Balt]

It’s good that the smoke was quickly extinguished, if they paused, there would be cotton, with victims. Hmm. It is too early to invite NATO countries to the international army games program “Armi-2019” ... they will not be able to cope with the task because of laughter)))

[EGERb]

Comrades !!!!!! The T-72 has it all !!!! And an alarm about overheating and high oil pressure. And also there is a sensor that shows closed or open blinds !!!! And the human factor is no longer going anywhere. You can forget about the blinds only if the crew is poorly trained and this does not mean that they did not know about them. Just skills are not brought to automatism. And this is a huge minus for the best crew of Iran. And xs how do they go through the selection

[iouris]

A strange mistake for a crew from a hot country.

[Avior]

Rarely water barriers force

[Romario_Argo]

By the way, you can already think about the Marine Biathlon
for example, group competitions
F: Frigate; K: Corvetov; R: MRK; T: Minesweepers
where is the thread at the Pacific Fleet near the Kuril Islands
step by step with the complication of the following: maneuvering / camouflage from optical coastal systems / air defense: intercepting 16 subsonic targets / firing from a gun mount on the shore / firing at targets imitating ships - ASM
then air defense again: intercepting 16 supersonic targets
(creation of target redundancy, air defense glut)
/ anti-torpedo protection against torpedo simulators / destruction of submarine or diesel-electric submarine simulators using PLUR
There are a lot of options, but also correspondingly more expensive than with tanks (!)

[Lexa-149]

And all you had to do was learn the match!

[Astra wild]

Quote: rotmistr60

the crew did not open the blinds of the cooling system.

Banal human factor. It happens. Next time will be more attentive. Participating in the tank biathlon, Iranian tankers gain experience that may come in handy in the future.

Excuse me, Iran has been participating in the "biathlon" since 2016, and now it is 2019. You can already gain experience. If there is a desire

[seregatara1969]

welded a flame engine to the tank - now an expensive repair

[Candidate of Military Sciences]

Fu ... disgrace! (((((((
Wake up, you, u / inferior - you are sabotaged !!!!!!
The forests themselves cannot warm up so much, the art weapons warehouses accidentally explode at this time, and the tanks prepared for the competition smoke from "overheating" as if their engine compartment had not been cleaned since the release !!!!!!
Here we still have in Moscow the type of "arbitrariness" of the authorities at the type of "peaceful" demonstrations - the Euro-media very much "do not like it" - "Euro-dermocracy" is in danger! And all this in one go !!! .... Who watched the naval parade? I have not found a single recording without video and sound mute !!! You spat right in your face - and you ??? ....
And here I am reading your comments - what are you talking about here!?!?!?!? Wake up !!!

[not main]

Everyone is discussing a tank or crew. And I have a question for firefighters: why did they arrive at the place (judging by the video in more than 2 minutes?). Slow exit from the car, etc., and in the end, ostentatious filling of the tank with foam?

[not main]

Quote: non-primary

Everyone is discussing a tank or crew. And I have a question for firefighters: why did they arrive at the place (judging by the video in more than 2 minutes?). Slow exit from the car, etc., and in the end, ostentatious filling of the tank with foam?

[saylor1971]

Please note that on all tanks of the T-72B3 family that participate in the tank biathlon, the covers of the engine compartment are raised. This may indicate the disadvantages of the cooling system. In addition, in this particular case, the fire extinguishing system of the tank itself is not visible.

[saylor1971]

Quote: PhD in Military Science

Who watched the maritime parade? I did not find a single record without booting video and sound !!! You spit right in the face - and you ??? ....

Speaking of maritime parade:
to confuse Admiral Spiridonov with some kind of Spiridov and not to name Admiral Makarov (the attribute was named) among prominent naval commanders only a man who was completely not interested in the history of the Navy and his country could. The same applies to officials who controlled such a text.

[Candidate of Military Sciences]

From your particulars do not add up the whole. You wrote only about mythical officials. You, too, do not care or understand the Navy.

[saylor1971]

Quote: PhD in Military Science

From your particulars do not add up the whole. You wrote only about mythical officials. You, too, do not care or understand the Navy.

I talked about the announcer's comment during the Naval Parade. Listen at the very beginning, when they call outstanding naval commanders. You can understand that a person does not give a damn about the text. But this text must have been checked before its scoring and repeatedly. Therefore, I say that such people do not care about the history of their country.

[Glory1974]

. You can understand that a person does not give a damn about the text.

The text is repeatedly read, agreed. The announcer himself reads what they give him. In addition, the text is read out in time, up to a second, to match the television picture. Many things reduce, some increase.

[ananias mudishev]

It will probably be most correct if each team brings its own tank and acts on it