Submersible missile boat. 1231 Dolphin Project

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History Military shipbuilding has presented us with many unusual projects that do not cease to amaze us after decades. Interesting bold ideas visited the minds of many designers around the world. In this regard, the Soviet shipbuilding school was no exception. The unusual unrealized projects of the Soviet period include the submersible missile boat of the 1231 project "Dolphin", which was a hybrid of a rocket ship and a submarine.

Submersible missile boat. 1231 Dolphin Project

Option of a submersible missile boat "Dolphin" without hydrofoils




The birth of the idea of ​​a diving missile carrier


It is worth noting that Soviet designers were not the first to propose a project that combines the qualities of a surface and submarine ship. The first attempts to create such a ship were made at the end of the XIX century. Despite a fairly large number of projects and ideas, nobody managed to create a surface-submarine ship. Some success in this field of experiment was achieved by the French, who even before the start of World War II had created an unusual submarine - the Sürkuf submarine cruiser, which, besides the torpedo armament typical of submarines, carried a tower with two 203-mm guns on board. The boat, commissioned in the 1929 year, remained one of a kind, holding the record for size and displacement until the very end of World War II. The French did not abandon the idea of ​​creating such ships today. So, in 2010, at the EURONAVALE-2010 exhibition, the project of the battle ship of the future, the diving frigate SMX-25, combining the features of surface combat ships and submarines, was presented.

In the Soviet Union, the idea of ​​creating such a ship was personally submitted by Nikita Khrushchev. Examining the fast boats based in Balaklava (designed by engineers TsKB-5 and TsKB-19) and the submarines located there, the secretary general proposed combining their qualities in a new ship. The idea expressed by Khrushchev was to ensure the secrecy of actions fleet, it was especially important in the conditions of a possible atomic war. Then one of the existing or prospective missile boats decided to "submerge" under water.

The thought expressed by the first person of the state was taken seriously. Specialists of TsKB-19 were invited to work on the creation of a diving missile carrier. The chief designer of the future small submersible rocket ship was the head of the bureau, Igor Kostetsky. The project was planned to be implemented at the Leningrad Marine Plant, which was the construction and experimental base of TsKB-19. Subsequently, after the merger of TsKB-19 and TsKB-5, the project was led by the head of TsKB-5 Evgeny Yukhin. It is believed that the unusual 1231 project “Dolphin” played an important role in combining the two Soviet design bureaus, which later became the Central Marine Design Bureau “Almaz”, which exists today.


French submarine "Surcouf"


It is worth noting that in the pre-war years in the USSR there was a project to create a diving boat. It is believed that the first Soviet designer to introduce such a project was Valerian Brzezinski, who worked in the special technical bureau of the NKVD in 1939. This bureau worked in Leningrad at the factory number 196. The presented project of a submersible torpedo boat received the designation M-400 "Flea". According to the intentions of the developers, an unusual ship was supposed to develop an 33 node speed in the surface position, and 11 nodes in the underwater position. It was planned to equip the boat with a displacement of 35,3 tons with two 450-mm torpedo tubes. The construction of the experimental ship began in Leningrad in 1939 at the A. Marty plant. By the beginning of World War II, the project was completed at 60 percent, but in the conditions of the blockade, the project was frozen, and after damage to the boat as a result of shelling in 1942, it was completely curtailed. According to the developers of "Fleas", the boat was supposed to approach the enemy ships in underwater position, and after a torpedo volley to emerge and exit the battle already in the surface position.

What tasks did Dolphin have to solve?


The main advantage of all submarine warship projects implemented in different years was stealth. Vessels approached the enemy in underwater position, so it was difficult to detect them. At the same time, it was planned to place on board weapon, which was used on conventional surface ships. All projects combined stealth, and sometimes the possibility of underwater use of weapons, characteristic of submarines, with high firepower and speed, like surface combat ships.

The Soviet project of the submersible small missile boat "Dolphin" fit into this concept. According to the plans of the developers, the 1231 project boat was supposed to specialize in delivering sudden missile attacks on warships and transport ships of a potential enemy. It was planned to use small submersible missile boats on approaches to naval bases and large enemy ports, in bottlenecks. It was assumed that the ships would be able to solve the tasks of repelling landings on the coast, will participate in the defense of the coast and the bases of the Soviet fleet, carry out radar and sonar patrols at basing places, operate on enemy sea lanes, interfering with the transport of weapons and cargo.

The creators hoped that a group of missile boats would be deployed in advance in a given area, where they could remain unnoticed by the enemy, while underwater for a long time. Submerging missile boats should also be approaching enemy ships in an underwater position. Approaching the enemy, the ships surfaced and at high speed went to the line of attack. After launching the missiles, the boats were again submerged under water or, having developed the maximum speed, moved away from the battlefield in the surface position. High speed and the ability to dive under water were supposed to reduce the time the ship was under enemy fire and protect the ship from air strikes.

Design Features of the 1231 Dolphin Project Boat


Almost from the very beginning of the design, the main feature of the project was hydrofoil movement, the designers stopped at such a scheme to provide the boat with high speed. At the same time, as part of the work, various options for combinations of the shape of the hull of the boat and hydrofoils were considered. For testing, models were built that were sent to the wind tunnel and the experimental pool, and tests were also conducted on the lake. In total, three main options for the shape of the hull and hydrofoils were presented: without hydrofoils (displacement up to 600 tons), with one nose hydrofoil (displacement 440 tons) and with two hydrofoils (displacement 450 tons). The width of the hull of boats with wings was 9,12 meters, in the version without wings - 8,46 meters. The main differences between the options presented were the surface speed, size and displacement. The length of the options with hydrofoils was a little more than 50 meters, without wings - 63 meters.



During the work, the designers came to the conclusion that the most suitable for development is the project of a small missile boat equipped with one bow wing. This project was chosen even despite the lower speed. Maximum surface speed of 38 nodes versus 42 nodes for the twin-wing variant. Under water, the ship was supposed to develop speed in 4-5 nodes. In favor of this project was that the boat could develop full speed without overloading the main power plant. At the same time, the characteristics of balancing and controllability of the boat in the underwater position were higher than the higher-speed version equipped with two hydrofoils.

During the design process, the designers settled on a model with two compartments located in a durable welded case. In the bow compartment, designers placed the center post of the ship, the posts of acoustics and radio operator, the premises of the electric power industry, as well as the battery pit. It was from this compartment that the commander controlled the missile boat, from here the power plant, missile weapons and radio equipment were controlled. In the second strong compartment were the main engines and electric motors, a diesel generator and other equipment. In the superstructure of the boat, in a separate strong container, the designers located the living compartment of the ship, which had 6 berths (half the crew), a galley, supplies of food and fresh water. In an emergency, the living compartment was planned to be used to save the personnel of the boat from an underwater position. In the event of damage to the living compartment, it was also possible to evacuate from the central post, but already by the method of free ascent to the surface or climbing a buoyer. In the superstructure of the boat was a permeable wheelhouse, which housed the second control station for the main engines of the ship, used in the surface mode.

The main armament of the boat of the 1231 Dolphin project was to be four P-25 cruise missiles, the maximum firing range of which reached 40 kilometers. Missiles were placed in single container-type launchers (sealed), located at a constant inclination to the horizon. All launchers were located outside the sturdy hull of the boat and could withstand the pressure of the maximum depth of the ship. Additional weapons, including air defense systems, were not provided for on the ship. The stake was made on the surprise attack and the speed of withdrawal from the battle.

As a power plant, engineers chose the M507 diesel engine. This unit was a pair of serial engines M504 mastered by the Soviet industry. Fixed-pitch wide-blade propellers were used as propulsion devices on the boat. The design feature of the project was the ability to purge the tanks of the main ballast with the exhaust gases of diesel engines, this solution ensured the rapid ascent of the sinking missile boat.


Option of a submersible missile boat "Dolphin" with two hydrofoils


According to design calculations, all three missile boat options could be submerged to a working depth of 70 meters, the maximum depth was 112 meters. Under water, an unusual ship could be continuously no more than two days. The total autonomy of the boat did not exceed five days. Seaworthiness did not exceed 3-4 points. For hydrofoil variants, the cruising range was 700 nautical miles, in the underwater position - no more than 25 miles. The crew of the boat consisted of 12 people.

The fate of the Dolphin


As experts later noted, the key point in the design of any warship is the planned tactics of its combat use. At the same time, with regard to the submersible small missile boat, such a tactic of application was not comprehensively worked out and studied, especially considering the possible opposition from the probable enemy. The tactical and technical task for the design of a new missile boat was initially not fully justified. The technical characteristics, composition and capabilities of the installed missile weapons obtained during the design of the unique ship allowed the military and designers to better evaluate the combat use of the ship. It became obvious that in real combat conditions the losses of the Dolphins would be no lower than the losses of ordinary surface small missile boats of the Soviet Navy. At the same time, the cost of building ships of the 1231 project would obviously be higher than the cost of building traditional ships, and the military-economic effect of using submersible missile boats was considered doubtful.

The design of a small submersible missile boat was carried out in the USSR from January 1959 of the year to the end of 1964 of the year. After leaving the post of Secretary General Nikita Khrushchev, work was stopped. At the same time, stopping work on the 1231 project was not so much political as a purely practical context. Despite all the dedication of Soviet designers and the consideration of various concepts, the work could hardly have ended successfully. The creation of such ships is associated with insoluble technical problems that arise due to completely different requirements for submarines and surface ships. Previously, none of the projects (the Soviet "Dolphin" was no exception) was brought to its logical conclusion or, like the French boat "Surfuf", was not successful, giving way to specialized ships in everything.
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  1. +4
    6 August 2019 04: 53
    That streamlining does not please his eye! Could design smaller add-ons.
    1. 0
      7 August 2019 11: 54
      Quote: Theodore
      ! Could design smaller add-ons

      They couldn’t - the masts had to be removed during the dive, on the one hand, the higher the communication antennas, the radar and the direction finder, the better, on the other hand, when dived, they should be removed as quickly as possible because at a speed above 10-15 knots they’ll break therefore, they were closed by a superstructure - the less they stick out above it, the less time will be spent preparing for a dive.
  2. +3
    6 August 2019 05: 00
    Dzhevetsky had, and it seems, not just one project of the Water-Bomber destroyer, his friend was still a searchlight
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 09: 06
      there was, and it seems, not even one project of the Water-Launcher destroyer

      I read about this in a magazine in the 80's. For all the unusual design, no one could get into it at training firing. So the idea was not so bad.
      1. +3
        6 August 2019 15: 43
        They also read this magazine in a campaign)))
        1. +4
          6 August 2019 17: 12
          Thank you colleague hi Great movie. It’s strange that the boat just didn’t sink, and in it, like in a tin can, the noise of the screws of catching boats was heard. Perhaps they were first damaged by special grenade launchers and forced to float. Otherwise, what's the point of being underwater? Or is it still not underwater, but semi-submerged, the hatch there is already painfully frivolous?
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    3. +5
      6 August 2019 15: 36
      Quote: Graz
      Dzhevetsky had, and it seems, not just one project of the Water-Bomber destroyer, his friend was still a searchlight

      Dzhevetsky was not just a searchlight - at the time he developed the water-boom MM, a partially submerged ship with torpedo weapons was more reliable than a submarine and was perfectly protected from anti-mine caliber fire. But the rapid progress of the submarine ruined the idea.
      1. +2
        6 August 2019 17: 43
        Dzhevetsky was an excellent engineer and his submarines (and many other works) were very modern, interesting and technically calculated ...
  3. +5
    6 August 2019 05: 26
    It became obvious that in real combat conditions the losses of the Dolphins would be no lower than the losses of ordinary surface small missile boats of the Soviet Navy. At the same time, the cost of building ships of Project 1231 would obviously be higher than the cost of building traditional ships, and the military-economic effect of using submersible missile boats was considered doubtful.
    The pig project of Nikita the Wonderworker, like the underground boat. ”Meanwhile, General Secretary Nikita Sergeevich Khrushchev, who replaced the deceased Stalin, personally showed interest in the project. Scientists dealing with this problem already had their own developments in an underground boat, and a breakthrough in science in the field of nuclear energy brought the project to a new stage of technological development - the creation of an atomic underground boat. For their serial production, the country urgently needed a plant, and in 1962, by order of Khrushchev in Ukraine, in the town of Gromovka, construction of a strategic plant for the production of underground boats was begun, and Khrushchev made a public promise “to get the imperialists not only from space, but also from the ground ". In 1964, the plant was built and produced the first Soviet nuclear-powered underground boat, named "Battle Mole" https://topwar.ru/888-podzemnye-lodki.html
  4. 0
    6 August 2019 07: 50
    So this is where the very strange Navy came from, which turned out to be after the partition of Dill. Truly akbar that they did not start building, but under Khrushchev, not such nonsense climbed into the heads of the Anzhyners from the defense industry. Probably all creators of military equipment, for a start, you need to send conscripts to the internal combustion engine, as many years ago in China "everyone should be able to fight like an infantryman", it doesn't matter if a general or a pilot, into the trenches for a period of six months. You will say that we will ditch the brains of light, but nothing of the kind, the Chinese have not ditched their own, and the Air Force and Navy are one of the best, military exports, the Strategic Missile Forces, and damn it already flew into space. Then the engineers will understand (well, maybe) what the Army, Aviation and Navy still need
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 08: 19
      Of course, it would be nice to shake up the "creative intelligentsia" with productive labor, but it (the creative intelligentsia) only fulfills the requirements set by the political leadership. Here is the Trotskyist Khrushch Kukuruzny and issued the TK, very similar to the projects approved by Tukhachevsky in the 30s.
      1. +4
        6 August 2019 11: 09
        Thanks to Khrushchev, Russia now has a nuclear shield from ICBMs.
        And they would start stamping all kinds of battleships, aircraft carriers, strategic bombers, etc.
        1. +4
          6 August 2019 12: 11
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Thanks to Khrushchev, Russia now has a nuclear shield from ICBMs.

          Or maybe all the same Korolev, Yangel and Glushko?
          1. +6
            6 August 2019 12: 23
            In the USSR, everything was determined by the Party’s course, if you remember.
            If the Party headed for the fleet, the rocket launchers would be put on the back burner for financing. No matter how talented people they were. But Khrushchev headed for rockets and space.
            And the talents of the Queen and other designers whom you listed were brightly manifested.
          2. +8
            6 August 2019 12: 59
            Rather, L.P. Beria. Khrushchev simply arrogated to himself all the successes and even hung upon himself the Star of the Hero of Socialist Labor! Enough of conscience
  5. 0
    6 August 2019 08: 28
    Yes, they simply learned to launch rockets directly from boats in the sixties, so get rid of all meaning.
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 12: 07
      Quote: Sancho_SP
      Yes, they simply learned to launch rockets directly from boats in the sixties, so get rid of all meaning.

      This is an underwater start. Surface launch mastered much earlier.
      "In TsKB-16, under the leadership of Isanin, on the basis of a large submarine of pr.611, a project of an experimental missile boat V-611 was created. The Navy allocated it for conversion into a B-67 missile submarine built in 1953. The conversion took place in Molotovsk (Severodvinsk). During the modernization, one of the four groups of batteries in the 4th compartment was unloaded, then the entire 4th compartment was cleaned and two missile silos with an internal diameter of 2 meters and a length of 14 meters were placed there.
      In an atmosphere of deepest secrecy, at 4:30 am on September 15, 1955, the first missile was loaded onto the B-67. On September 16 at 17 hours in the White Sea the world's first ballistic missile was launched from a submarine. "Shirokad."
      1. 0
        6 August 2019 14: 31
        Don't confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs. Surface and underwater launches were mastered primarily for ballistic missiles, which are designed to destroy ground targets with special ammunition. The boat referred to in the article was intended to destroy anti-ship missiles of surface ships, and this is a completely different story. The underwater launch for anti-ship missiles was mastered much later than the underwater launch for SLBMs, the fundamental difference between cruise and ballistic missiles affected. By the way, the first anti-ship missiles with an underwater launch ("Amethyst") owe their birth in many respects to the failed project mentioned in the article, as well as the new seeker and other elements and assemblies that have been used on many weapons, from the P-15M to the Yakhont. and from 670 projects to 1240 (the same "TV", a series of articles "Rockets of the domestic fleet").
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 07: 49
          Quote: samaravega
          The boat referred to in the article was intended to destroy anti-ship missiles of surface ships, and this is a completely different story. Underwater launch for anti-ship missiles mastered much later than underwater launch for SLBMs,

          The design of a small submersible missile boat was carried out in the USSR from January 1959 to the end of 1964. After leaving the post of Secretary General Nikita Khrushchev, work was stopped. At the same time, stopping work on project 1231 was not so much a political as a purely practical context. At the same time, the 675th nuclear-powered submarines were being built, armed with P-6 anti-ship cruise missiles, though a surface launch. Https://topwar.ru/93122-krylataya-raketa-podvodnyh-lodok-p-6.html
          1. 0
            7 August 2019 11: 41
            You yourself answered yourself: the key phrase of "surface launch", especially since even earlier P-6 submarines with P-5 cruise missiles were built and accepted into service. Again, the catchphrase is "surface launch". Launching a cruise missile from under water is technically many times more difficult than launching a ballistic missile, as can be seen from the experience of ALL fleets: the Americans, who were the first in the world to master the underwater launch of a ballistic missile, debugged the underwater launch of a cruise missile only for Tomahawks and Harpoons, when 1- The third generation of SLBMs (Polaris) was already in its third generation (Trident). The French also "learned" to launch only "Exocets" from under water at about the same time. Compare this with the years when the Amethyst was put into operation, not to mention the characteristics and capabilities of the missiles themselves.
          2. 0
            7 August 2019 12: 13
            In general, the first project of this type (it was his drawing that was given by the author at the beginning of the article) was project 662, which, due to insufficient surface speed, was proposed to be equipped with an hydrofoil, and project 1231 itself "began" with the decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR dated December 21, 1962. So what about "since January 1959" you either got excited, or clarify that these are different projects.
        2. 0
          7 August 2019 11: 14
          Quote: samaravega
          , the first anti-ship missiles with an underwater launch ("Amethyst") owe their birth to a large extent to the failed project mentioned in the article,

          Rather, the project did not take place thanks to "Amethyst"))) These missiles, after all, in the early 60s were adopted, and boats began to be built for them.
          1. 0
            7 August 2019 12: 41
            The design of the Amethyst and the P-25 for the 1231 project was carried out almost simultaneously (the Amethyst began a little earlier, finished much later) in one design bureau: OKB-52 Chelomey. P-25 was created as a boat, with more stringent weight and dimensions requirements. Successful solutions and entire units (for example, IC GOS) "migrated" from the P-25, which did not go into series, although it was brought to successful tests, to the Amethyst, Malachite and, possibly, Granit KB Chelomey, P -15M KB Bereznyak and other missiles.
            The fate of the project 1231 "Amethyst" has nothing to do, the rocket itself with on-board equipment was fully tested only in September 1966, and the entire complex (without the submarine equipment, the rocket itself is an expensive, but stupid aircraft) - only in November 1968 Project 1231 was "closed" in 1964.
            I recommend the series of articles "Domestic Fleet Missiles" in "TV". There is even more factual information on the topic of project 1231 than in the article we are discussing.
            1. 0
              7 August 2019 12: 52
              Quote: samaravega
              only in November 1968 Project 1231 was "closed" already in 1964.

              Well, they correctly closed it, as hopeless, there was no point in spending money on it, since a normal rocket was almost ready - 2 years is nothing, because it started to develop a boat even earlier.
              1. 0
                8 August 2019 18: 40
                I have to argue with you. If we take the "Amethyst", then it was created for the "super" and "super" submarine of project 661, which holds an unsurpassed record of underwater speed to this day. A lot of new things were used on this boat: automated heading and depth control systems, preventing emergency trims when launching missiles, a new GAK, etc. etc. For the first time in the world, a case made of titanium alloys used for a submarine even fades against this background. The result is logical - the boat in the navy received the nickname "goldfish" (because of the cost, and this is in Soviet times!) And entered service later than the nuclear-powered ships of project 670, on which "Amethyst" passed state tests and "registered". Project 661 remained in a single copy. So the birth of "Amethyst", and later on "Malachite" and even now very formidable for the adversaries "Granit" owe, as you write, to the "unpromising" project of the nuclear submarine 661. The same is with the project 1231: a lot of decisions made as both for the project itself and for its "stuffing" were later successfully used in other serial projects.
  6. +3
    6 August 2019 09: 55
    This idea, but for another task (ZVO N10,1998)

    In the mid-90s in the UK and the United States began to create a completely new type of surface-underwater means for the delivery of reconnaissance and sabotage groups of special operations forces - an underwater glider. This boat, as usual, is capable of transporting commando units with armament and equipment at high speed, and after a small alteration it turns into a group carrier for combat swimmers and divers with a “wet” type hull and can move underwater using a standard engine with an RPD device or battery powered electric motor.
    In 1994 - 1995, the operational research unit of the MTR of the ground forces of the armed forces of Great Britain, together with a detachment of combat swimmers of the marine corps, tested two samples of such landing facilities: the submarine glider "Sabskimmer" (Fig. 10) and the submersible boat SRC (Submersible Recovery Craft) . The main drawback of the first is the small payload (it can only carry up to four people with the crew). Another boat - SRC, designed by the English company Souther Copland Composite, is equipped with two outboard engines, allowing speeds up to 45 knots (in the surface position).
    The range in underwater position reaches 10 miles at a speed of 2 to 3 knots. In the surface version, the glider can be equipped with a variety of weapons: machine guns, a 30-mm cannon or NUR for firing at coastal targets. Along with SRC, Souter also offered the Submersible Recovery Bag (SRB), which will be used to refuel the SRC in both underwater and above-water positions. A container with fuel or cargo can be immersed in water at a predetermined depth and held with an anchor, float on command or lay down on the ground.
    The American company Steadd Systems in 1997 created its own model of an underwater glider - Mk1 SSB, which was being developed at the same time as the English version of the submersible boat SRC. It has a length of 10,75 m, a mass of 4,3 tons, a payload of 1270 kg. The glider can carry up to eight underwater divers. The cost of one sample is 1,8 million US dollars.
    For the movement of this boat on the water surface, two diesel engines with a total capacity of 300 liters are used. with., located in waterproof capsules and working on water-jet propulsion. They allow you to develop a maximum speed of over 35 knots. The maximum range of a glider in the surface is 200 miles.
    Movement under water is provided by two electric motors, powered by silver-zinc batteries, designed for 4 hours of continuous use. In this case, the maximum underwater speed reaches 6 knots. The hull of the glider is V-shaped and made of aluminum. In the underwater position, the boat cockpit is closed from above with a special fiberglass casing, in which there is a hatch equipped with a special bracket. With its help, the hatch rises, and then moves to the side, thereby ensuring the exit of combat swimmers. This design of a glider resembles an SMPL with a “wet” type housing. Water that fills the internal space in the underwater position is heated by flowing around the casing of a running engine, and its temperature is maintained at 15 ° C. Glider control is facilitated by the use of a special steering gear located in the diametrical plane of the body.
    The Glider Mk1 SSB is transported by car on a special trailer, from which it can be either launched into the water or lifted out of the water. It can also be transported by ship or plane, for which SSI offers a version of a glider with smaller dimensions (length 8 m, capacity six people with crew) worth $ 1,2 million.
    Thus, the advantage of the underwater glider is the high speed in the water position at the transition to the area of ​​the task and covert underwater maneuvering when approaching the target at the end of the route. In addition, it is significantly cheaper than conventional ultra-small submarines and, according to experts, is better suited for a number of special operations.
  7. +2
    6 August 2019 14: 58
    when we studied at a physics school, we discussed the prospects of an RTO project that fended off a missile attack with a short partial immersion in water. In principle, nothing much is required. RTOs will certainly turn out to be more expensive, but such a bonus is not frail.
    1. +1
      7 August 2019 11: 17
      Quote: yehat
      which fended off a missile attack with a brief partial immersion in water.

      This is if the torpedo does not fly to him.
      1. 0
        7 August 2019 11: 18
        for such purposes this is not allowed.
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 11: 41
          Quote: yehat
          for such purposes this is not allowed.

          Honestly, I don’t know what the bourgeoisie has now, but I remember exactly that you can shoot with the "Trumpet" at any target, but it does not make a difference to a torpedo.
          In addition, he will have problems - he will not be able to hide from each rocket because every time he will have to remove the masts and antennas so that their water pressure does not break when immersed.
          But in order to topple over, you still have to come up because if he is clamped in an underwater position, then he is a khan - this is not a submarine, he can’t go into the depths, he can’t shut himself out, he can’t put out pursuers with a torpedo.
    2. 0
      7 August 2019 11: 20
      Modern means of destruction will "get" such a thing under water! ... So, diving is not salvation.
      1. 0
        7 August 2019 11: 23
        with a 95% probability, in our RTOs they will launch a harpoon or an exoset variant.
        they will be ineffective.
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 12: 29
          You think so, and what the bourgeoisie have, you definitely don’t know! But haven't exosets been removed from armament? Well this junk is ...
  8. 0
    7 August 2019 12: 32
    Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
    You think so

    that is, I consider.
  9. 0
    8 August 2019 06: 44
    Such ships are needed in the civilian fleet: for all-weather cargo-passenger communication.

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