To the West and back on the bus. Roads, houses, bridges and operation "Unthinkable 2"

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“You go to the West when the soil is exhausted and the pines come to the old field. To the West you are going, having received a letter with the words: "Run, everything is revealed." You go to the West when, looking at the knife in your hand, you see that it is in blood. You go to the West when they tell you that you are a bubble in the surf of the empire. You go to the West when you hear that there are a lot of gold in the mountains. To the West you are going to grow with the country. To the West you are going to live out your age. Or just go to the West. I just went to the West. ”
Robert Penn Warren. "All the king's men"

When you wander, return home,
And the smoke of the Fatherland is sweet and pleasant to us!
(A. S. Griboedov "Woe from Wit")




Europe from the bus window (2019). So, I went to the West and came back from there. It is interesting and relax, and the world to see, and in recent years it has increasingly been a bus ride. Believe me, this is convenient. The bus is comfortable, the seats are soft, the tour is without night crossings, overnight is always in the hotel with a bath or shower, with a good breakfast in the morning and ... again on the road, and there every two hours a stop: tea, coffee, toilet or “bushes”. In short, everything that only a person needs. And a lot of things can be seen from the windows! And if nothing interesting is seen, you can relax and think and even write your thoughts in a notebook, which is especially convenient for me personally. After all, what you see can be compared, compared with previously known. In addition, you get a lot of interesting information, visiting museums, ancient fortresses, archaeological parks ...


Typical polish road house


This time the trip was especially long and interesting. Our bus with a charming and erudite guide Anya from the company Turtrans-Voyage traveled from Brest to Brest, passing through Poland, Germany, Belgium, France, Spain, Italy, Austria with a rest on the coast of Spain Costa Bravo in the town of Lloret de mar. We visited Warsaw, Berlin, Paris, Carcassonne, Nice, Monaco, Genoa, Venice and Vienna. By the way, the group was very motley. It was presented, one can say, almost all of Russia. There were people from Chukotka, Kamchatka, from Siberia, from Moscow, from Penza. And, most surprisingly, those who rode for the first time, almost did not appear. Everyone visited such bus trips two, three times, and some five, six, ten. That is, it is a popular form of recreation in Russia. At least for a certain part of its population.

The tour program was rich and interesting, but personally we, my wife and granddaughter, did not adhere to it and almost did not walk with everyone and did not go. We had our own routes, much more interesting both for us and, and I am absolutely sure of that, for the readers of “VO”. There will be a whole series of articles related to how history places we visited, and with a military theme.


And here's another one ...


Road, road, you know so much!


In the meantime, in the very first of the materials of this cycle we will consider ... the roads of Europe, the way they differ from our roads, the houses standing on either side of them, well, and to some extent we touch the people living in them.


And yet ... And in front of him - the field!


Well, let's say this: everyone knows that the roads in the West, that is, in Europe, are good. However, they are good everywhere in different ways. For example, in Poland they today are no different from our federal highways. In any case, those that pass through my Penza from Moscow to Saratov and Chelyabinsk. Also, workers mow the grass on the sides of the road, scavenge, cover ... good!


Here the houses are very close to each other, but all the same - the field is right in front of them!


What's the Difference? There are more noise protection walls, and all of them are new and made of plastic, including transparent ones, on which silhouettes of birds of prey are depicted, so that birds will not try to fly through them. All forests have a net fence. And in Poland, just like everywhere else, no one would even think to move out of the way. Grids everywhere! Not like ours, where anyone can easily stay on the side of a highway or move out of it and go looking for mushrooms. There is no such thing! But for the "fence" in the fields freely storks roam and roe grazing. There are a lot of storks in Poland. And in the fields, and on the roofs of houses, and on special pillars. The fact is that the stork's nest is not an easy construction and can weigh up to 400 kg! Imagine that you are here so much piled on the roof? Therefore, the Poles set up concrete pillars for storks with a platform at the top, where they make their nests.


This, by the way, is also Poland. Very clean, right?


Walls in Germany, France, Spain, Italy and Austria ... obviously set up a long time ago, so that many managed to grow with ivy. Materials - the most diverse, type, shape, colors, too. There are stone (!), There are wooden (!!), but more plastic. But they stretch and stretch ...


We turn off to Warsaw ...


There are no unauthorized garbage heaps at congresses from the main road. We have them, in particular, at the turn to my dacha settlement in Chemodanovka, they meet constantly. True (rejoice those who see spots in the sun!), I saw one such garbage dump in Poland. One! But I have not seen anywhere else, so this is truly a unique case. It is a pity that I did not have time to photograph it!


In the 50s of the last century, when we decided to be friends with the Poles, Stalin offered to build something in the capital to choose from. The Poles asked for the metro, but the leader preferred to donate this building, an almost exact copy of the “high-rise” building that stands in Moscow opposite the library of foreign literature named after Rudomino. Initially, it was called "The Palace of Culture and Science named after J. Stalin." Then just "Palace of Culture and Science." Then, after the demolition of the Berlin Wall, hotheads started talking about demolishing it. But ... talked and stopped. Today, this skyscraper plays the role of an office building and exhibition center, the headquarters of several companies and government agencies. It houses museums, cinemas, theaters, restaurants, bookstores, research institutes, swimming pools, exhibition spaces, and even the largest conference hall in Poland for 3000 people. Currently, the Palace of Culture and Science is one of the most famous and largest cultural exhibition centers in the country.


And this is a silhouette like a church ... or rather, a church.



And this is also the temple of God, but the most modern architecture cannot be said otherwise.


Energy saving in practice, not in words!


On both sides of the road, wind turbines of generators are already in Poland. And every year they are more and more. For example, in 2012, in Poland, I did not see them, only in France and in Spain, and now they are full of them! There are a lot of them in Germany, but in France you see a really fantastic picture: the mountains are lined up with rows of windmills and they all rotate, like giants waving their arms. Some are right next to the road and you can clearly see how huge they are. We have five such windmills only on the seashore near Zelenogradsk near Kaliningrad and ... everything. Maybe there is somewhere else? But along the roads to Saratov and Chelyabinsk, they certainly are not worth it, but this is cheap and clean energy.


This is a wind turbine in Poland.



And this is the windmills in Germany.


Road houses


Houses. Last year, I already wrote that in Poland 90% of houses along roadsides are new. Built already after 1991, although old shacks are also found. But very seldom. Our proportion is slightly different, but ... I can say that it is noticeable as the number of newly built houses is growing in ever-increasing numbers. Quite a lot of settlements appeared from modern standard houses, both in the countryside and in the suburbs. A lot of obviously old three-window huts are already sheathed with siding, and the windows on them are completely new, plastic. And it is interesting that our “cottages” as a whole look more Polish.


In France, there are not only houses near the road, but also castles on the hills.


There the houses are very miniature. Usually two stories high, they are scattered here and there, but mostly they go along the road. Some are very close to her, others are a little further away, but at the same time all the village houses surround ... the fields! Left and right, from all sides and even before the road. The Pole as if says by this very, that everything is mine ... around me! In our country where the fields are not clear, but behind the houses behind the fences there are vegetable gardens. There are no fences there. The fields are planted with wheat, which, by the way, is already harvested there, cabbage - the Poles eat a lot of cabbage and this explains, as they say, a small number of cancers, but apple orchards there are very large and again go straight to the road. Well, apples grow well in Poland and the Poles have taken advantage of this. A third of the harvest goes to the United States, a third to Europe, and a third went to Russia, but ... sanctions, so no longer goes. Naturally, it painfully hit the Polish peasants, but the politicians ... wiped off as always, with food they always and everything is fine, as well as with money.


Two more houses - new and old right in the middle of a wheat field ...


The difference between Polish and our houses is not only in size. They have everything there ... tidied up. Nowhere are the “necessary boards” lying two years ago in the grass by the fence, there are no tire covers, and other “garbage”. And all the auxiliary buildings look clean and neat. There is no such thing, that half of the roof is from old slate, and half from roofing material. I also did not notice the squandered buildings, backed by a log. In general, here we still have to work on ourselves. Firstly, to give up the bad habit of “privatizing” any rubbish and storing it in the yard either ... at the dacha, and secondly, solve the problems of your home in the complex, and, of course, plant more flowers.


Sometimes the spire of the monastery rises on a very steep mountain ... well, why climb to such a height? God, is he deaf, can't hear from the valley?


If you enter the Polish village, then there will definitely be a church. And new! Sometimes such architecture as the temple is not similar to it, but nonetheless. And all because Poland is a country of monoculture and mono-religion. 90% Catholics, and in fact, not in words. That is, they regularly attend Mass. Young people, however, are less religious. But the church is fighting for its souls, for example, it reduces the time of services, organizes various events that are interesting for young people.

And all of this is paying off. Nowhere in Poland, unlike France, I didn’t see blacks, and indeed migrants from “hot countries” looking for an easy life in comfortable Europe. They do not take root here somehow ...

Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are!


By the way, our bus belonged to a Polish company, and its drivers were Poles who knew Russian well. We talked and found out one interesting thing noticed by them for many trips: it turns out that almost every tour in the bus (and 50 people load it) always comes across one, or even two or three tourists from Russia with Polish roots. Well, my “Polish roots” should be considered relative, because I wear the name of my stepfather, not my own father. But in any case, this is significant. Yes, and our haplogroups and Polish are Slavic more than 50%, that is, the Poles are our closest relatives, and not just the neighbors. And we ought to be friends with them, and not to conflict, to have on our side, and not on the side of our opponents. Is it so difficult for our leadership to achieve this? Do not know how? So let them learn, damn it! We don’t have a lot of potential allies of real Europeans, something we are increasingly trying to get into Asia, the mentality of which we don’t know and do not understand, to the Middle East (even that г gaddychnik ’), and even to Africa. But this remark is so ... had a word.

The roads in Germany did not rush to my eyes, although there were more wind turbines along them. But in Belgium, unlike in all other countries, there were also lanterns along the highway. And at night it was as bright as day. In all other countries, the highway was not covered at night.


The road through the Alps - mountains and bridges.


Houses are old, but here Niva fat


Rural houses in France, and in Italy too, were away from the road and everyone, as one, looked ... old. Old walls, old roof tiles. But they looked clean and neat. But here the grounds around just caused a feeling of envy. How does that say? "Obese fields", yes ?! So here they are really fat. Cut through the mass of canals, so water cannons work everywhere, watering garden crops and even vineyards. Apple trees are all covered with cloth nets. In Poland - to protect against birds, but in France ... also from hail. Surprisingly, here it is very large. Every plot of land is occupied by crops, there are practically no wastelands with thistle thickets.


Farm in France and the fields around.


Road through the Alps: mountains and tunnels


But the best in this regard is Italy and Austria. There ... if this is not a very steep mountain, but a hill, then you will surely see the crops. The houses also stand on the hills, on unnaturally green lawns, where unnaturally spotted cows graze. The picture is simply bucolistic. Wheat also grows on the slopes of the hills and its ... clean combines! In Italy, the canals are everywhere and they hit jet cannons.


Some bridges are very high, but narrow.


I speak at a stop to an elderly Italian who spoke good English: “You have good roads!” He told me: “I also built Mussolini!” I told him: “When the American writer Mark Twain visited Italy, he said that“ God created Italy as conceived by Michelangelo. " But it was not your historical monuments that impressed him, but the Milan railway station and beautiful roads. ” He told me: “Well ... under Mussolini they were especially built a lot ...” “And for that you hung him upside down?” “They were partisans, communists. One could expect everything from them! ”N-yes, such is the historical memory of the people ... I remember the roads and Mussolini, Mussolini and the war - somehow not very.


Road through the Alps: bridges and tunnels


But the road through the Alps tells us first of all about the enormous industriousness of local residents and building art. Starting from Monaco, highways increasingly go into tunnels, sometimes very long. On the left is the mountain, on the right is the mountain, at the bottom of the gorge and, nevertheless, to the slope of the mountain, which is actually sheer, a tall bridge is docked, abutting in two holes extending into the rock tunnels. How did they all build it? How was heavy equipment delivered here? And if only there would be one such tunnel, but there are dozens of them. Dozens!

Ecological bridges and bridges for the disabled


And the main highway cross the "ecological bridges". Bridges are not for people, but for animals! Since all forests are fenced and animals cannot cross the highway, crossings over roads have been built for them. Soil is poured there and trees and bushes grow, and the beast walks along them back and forth. And there are many such bridges. Not one or two shows for the sake of! There are many pedestrian bridges, not only with stairs, but also with elevators. People with disabilities can use them, but healthy citizens are not ordered. Convenient, whatever you say. And no one is afraid that they will break. Well, about what all this has to do with the immediate content of Military Review, we will talk next time.


One such bridge for the beast


To be continued ...
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  1. +3
    5 August 2019 15: 24
    And where does the operation unthinkable?
    1. +5
      5 August 2019 15: 46
      Read it all to the end!
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 15: 59
        I immediately read and the phrase about the directly unthinkable in 2 parts I saw
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. +3
        6 August 2019 15: 27
        On both sides of the road already in Poland there are windmills of generators. And every year there are more of them. For example, in 2012 in Poland I did not see them, only in France and Spain, and now they are full of them! There are many of them in Germany, but in France you see a fantastic picture: the mountains are lined with rows of windmills and they all rotate, like giants waving their arms. Some stand right next to the road and you can clearly see how huge they are. We have five such windmills only on the seashore near Zelenogradsk near Kaliningrad and ... that's all.


        can you give economic feasibility to windmills? I would like to see the economic feasibility of this device.
    2. +3
      5 August 2019 16: 03
      This is probably the name of a travel plan for Europe.
    3. +3
      5 August 2019 17: 52
      Quote: Kronos
      And where does the operation unthinkable?

      I would venture to suggest, relying on historical facts - Operation Unthinkable was planned by W. Churchill and the plan was to liberate Europe from the Red Army with the use of Wehrmacht units that surrendered to the Anglo-American troops. Perhaps, a colleague of "Caliber", under the guise of auto excursions, proposes to carry out a massive transfer of Russian citizens to Europe and thereby confront her with the fact that it is too late to drink Borjomi Gerry and Pan, Russia mulberry - henda hoh! laughing
    4. 0
      12 August 2019 10: 19
      I think that the author means that such a state of affairs is unthinkable in the post-Soviet space. The ratio of people to nature. The attitude of the state towards society. The attitude of people towards public ownership. The mentality is not that.
  2. +4
    5 August 2019 15: 27
    Yes, now in the Czech Republic, I am struck by the number of planted fields.
    1. -3
      5 August 2019 16: 01
      You do not need to go to the Czech Republic for this, they are also planted in Russia.
      1. +6
        5 August 2019 16: 18
        Quote: ultra
        they are planted in Russia

        Yes. For the most "I can not" ... And we have a cow parsnip - envy, Europe! But the main difference is cleanliness.
        1. +2
          7 August 2019 10: 11
          I apologize, but who is crap on the roads? Are you our compatriots?
          1. +3
            8 August 2019 21: 11
            I apologize, but who is crap on the roads?

            Like who Putin, of course, well, and what deputies are (at the choice of the speaker).
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        3. +1
          8 August 2019 14: 27
          In Germany, hogweed already grows along the autobahns, not counting the "hluhomani" ...
      2. 0
        6 August 2019 07: 47
        We have most of the fields planted with weeds ...
        1. 0
          6 August 2019 08: 42
          What region do you live in?
          1. +6
            6 August 2019 09: 02
            Tula region
            1. +4
              6 August 2019 12: 21
              Well, the south of Tula, Efremov, through, Arsenyev, a terrace, Kireevsk, Bogoroditsk almost everything is noticeable, wheat, rapeseed, corn, so not all in weeds
              1. +3
                7 August 2019 00: 41
                Everything near us near Ryazan is also seeded and for already a year.
      3. +3
        7 August 2019 01: 02
        Quote: ultra
        You do not need to go to the Czech Republic for this, they are also planted in Russia.

        A year ago I passed the Pskov, Novgorod regions. The cow parsnip, in the former fields, amazes with its majesty! Of course, I understand that this is a zone of "risky farming", but once everything was sown or meadows!
        1. +1
          8 August 2019 14: 27
          In Germany, hogweed already grows along the autobahns, not counting the "hluhomani" ...
          1. +1
            8 August 2019 15: 03
            This is not just a hogweed, it is a Sosnowski hogweed, cultivated in the USSR since 1944 of the year - Stalin’s bio-weapon (our response to the American Colorado potato beetle) reached Central Europe laughing
      4. +4
        7 August 2019 13: 51
        I can’t say for Russia, but for the Kursk region I confirm that all fields are planted, which, by the way, is one of the reasons that it is difficult to keep cattle, there are very few grazing areas.
  3. 3vs
    +14
    5 August 2019 15: 34
    "But they certainly don't stand along the roads to Saratov and Chelyabinsk, and this is cheap and environmentally friendly energy."
    Well, and Comrade Putin in a straight line claimed that our scientists proved that windmills are harmful to the environment, from their
    vibrations earthworms crawl out of the ground and go crazy! Yes
    1. -2
      5 August 2019 16: 00
      Putin likes to blur without thinking that his words are easy to verify
    2. +26
      5 August 2019 16: 11
      A windmill with "cheap" and "clean" electricity is a controversial statement.
      1. +4
        5 August 2019 16: 35
        From the windmill, only noise. There are no emissions and emissions. In southern countries there are still a lot of solar panels. And they put them on residential buildings. And solar collectors for hot water are in almost every home.
        1. +4
          6 August 2019 04: 28
          They are put only at the expense of the state, they can not afford a private trader.
          1. +6
            6 August 2019 11: 51
            They are put only at the expense of the state, they can not afford a private trader.


            Solar collectors for hot water are cheap and many people buy from us, but in Greece, literally everything. No state puts anything to you and is not obliged to bet.
            1. +3
              6 August 2019 11: 54
              A solar collector is much cheaper than a solar battery. We also put Chinese for hot water.
              1. +4
                6 August 2019 14: 22
                A solar collector is much cheaper than a solar battery.


                This is so, but in recent years, solar panels are rapidly becoming cheaper, thanks to Chinese friends and the installation of 5 kilowatts is already about 3-4K euro (up to the key). Another five years and the energy mafia will have to be tight. They will have their own centrals ...
        2. +8
          6 August 2019 09: 00
          Quote: balunn
          From the windmill, only noise. There are no emissions and emissions.

          1. And how many exhausts and emissions were needed to create this windmill: metal, plastic, concrete, electric energy?

          2. How many decades will this windmill recoup its costs?
          1. +9
            6 August 2019 09: 45
            Somewhere at VO it was discussed that the so-called "green" energy is a purely subsidized industry.
        3. 0
          10 August 2019 06: 53
          In our area, the real summer is 1,5 - 2 months a year. Yes, and it’s a bit chilly at this time. Why do I need collectors? There is water in the tap and, in general, is inexpensive. Each has its own approach to life support. What should the European experience show us if the living conditions there are completely different.
    3. +10
      5 August 2019 16: 35
      Quote: 3vs
      u, but comrade Putin in a straight line claimed that our scientists proved that windmills are harmful to the environment

      American pediatrician Nina Pierpont claims: the proximity of wind turbines causes migraines, dizziness, anxiety, tachycardia, pressure in the ears and nausea in some people, as well as impaired vision and even digestion, with infrasound noise, adversely affecting the human body, causing a constant depressed state, severe causeless anxiety and discomfort in life. As the experience of operating a large number of wind turbines in the USA has shown, neither animals nor birds can withstand this noise, leaving the station's area of ​​residence, i.e., the territory of the wind station itself and adjacent to it become unsuitable for life.
      1. 3vs
        +1
        5 August 2019 17: 10
        Apparently, because the Europeans are building windmills along the roads and not in the yards of their houses ...
        The Germans and the French are probably no more stupid than the Americans ...
        The Americans have tender organisms, in Cuba they went crazy from singing cicadas ...
        1. +10
          5 August 2019 20: 34
          Windmills are evil, definitely. Not only are they harmful, they also look awful. This is if Shpakovsky once passed by, then you can put a tear from emotion. And to see them every day, let alone live nearby - you will not wish the enemy. Byak is still the one, I’m definitely saying.
          Here solar panels are another matter.
          1. 3vs
            +2
            6 August 2019 06: 05
            You do not think about where to dispose of tons of solar panels!
        2. 0
          7 August 2019 00: 43
          So old Ham was deaf. drinks
      2. +2
        7 August 2019 01: 05
        Quote: naidas
        Quote: 3vs
        u, but comrade Putin in a straight line claimed that our scientists proved that windmills are harmful to the environment

        American pediatrician Nina Pierpont claims: the proximity of wind turbines causes migraines, dizziness, anxiety, tachycardia, pressure in the ears and nausea in some people, as well as impaired vision and even digestion, with infrasound noise, adversely affecting the human body, causing a constant depressed state, severe causeless anxiety and discomfort in life. As the experience of operating a large number of wind turbines in the USA has shown, neither animals nor birds can withstand this noise, leaving the station's area of ​​residence, i.e., the territory of the wind station itself and adjacent to it become unsuitable for life.

        In the areas where windmills work, birds do not live, in the land where the heat pump probe is buried nearby, worms do not live
    4. +2
      5 August 2019 18: 21
      Quote: 3vs
      But this is cheap and environmentally friendly energy.

      I propose to study this issue ... otherwise you will equate the statement of the author with VO and the President of the Russian Federation ... you will soon be equal to the statement of the schoolboy on the swamp with the statement of the scientist ... well, well ...
    5. +6
      6 August 2019 04: 26
      In order for the windmills to work, a thermal power station should work nearby. When turning off the windmills (if there is no wind), the thermal power station replaces the windmill. At this moment, it operates in acceleration mode and emissions from it block the entire ecology from windmills. And birds do not fly in this place. And the service life of the wind turbines is 15 years before the overhaul, and the payback period is 10-12 years. And the electricity generated by wind turbines is 2-3 times more expensive than the electricity generated by thermal power plants.
      1. 3vs
        +1
        6 August 2019 06: 06
        Along the roads, it’s not for nothing that they probably put it, here you have lighting and other road infrastructure.
        1. +1
          6 August 2019 09: 11
          They put near the roads outside the city since it will be more expensive to pull the line for lighting. At one time, in the 90s, we made windmills for shepherds. A 100 Watt windmill charged 190A * h of battery and was enough for a shepherd for lighting.
      2. 0
        7 August 2019 21: 05
        I understood all the arguments, one question: why do they pose them?
        1. 0
          8 August 2019 07: 32
          Set for lighting stops and bridges, pedestrian crossings on highways
    6. +2
      6 August 2019 11: 26
      And in the Kaliningrad region there are windmills. That's just this year, no one is spinning for some reason. And last year, ¾ of the total number worked.
      1. 3vs
        +2
        6 August 2019 11: 30
        "But this year none of them rotate for some reason."
        Here they forgot to either renew the lubricant or it’s the party’s policy, do not scare the worms! Yes
        1. -1
          9 August 2019 13: 22
          Quote: 3vs
          "But this year none of them rotate for some reason."
          Here they forgot to either renew the lubricant or it’s the party’s policy, do not scare the worms!

          Do you know what infrasound is ... and why animals, birds, including earthworms do not live in the zone of windmills ?! belay

          Accordingly, you are a noble troll !!!
          1. 3vs
            0
            9 August 2019 15: 57
            Quote: Dali
            Do you know what infrasound is ... and why animals, birds, including earthworms do not live in the zone of windmills ?!

            No, fools live in Europe, they don’t like animals, birds and worms! Yes
            And Greenpeace with posters crawls on wind farms to protect animals!

            By the way, a former colleague who has a site near the television tower says that they
            no Colorado potato beetle!
            Will we demolish?
      2. 0
        7 August 2019 01: 09
        Work standing on the road to Mamonovo (border with Poland)
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 09: 45
          And in the north they don’t work in Kolosovka. Passed in late July and early August past them.
          1. 0
            7 August 2019 10: 02
            They say that in Kulikovo broke in the trash ..
            1. 0
              7 August 2019 10: 40
              Yes, Kulikovo. Mixed up. Is all this glade of windmills right? In general, they were not served there?
              1. 0
                7 August 2019 10: 47
                I don’t know about the quantity, but eyewitnesses said that during one of the hurricanes one scattered in the trash .. For a long time I was not in that corner, I did not see it with my own eyes.
                1. 0
                  7 August 2019 10: 48
                  Maybe already dismantled. When I drove through, I didn’t see anything beaten.
                  1. 0
                    7 August 2019 10: 50
                    probably ... In the spring, this was discussed.
                    But on the Mamon road they stumbled))
  4. +5
    5 August 2019 15: 35
    Operation Unthinkable 3: slums in the center of the Israeli capital Tel Aviv
    https://aftershock.news/?q=node/737042&full

    The Internet is also full of pictures of slums in the center of the capital of Poland, Warsaw.
    Maybe it would be worth a trip to the East? laughing
    1. 0
      7 August 2019 10: 52
      Quote: Operator
      slum

      Two bicycles on a peak of a balcony is strongly ... wassat
  5. +1
    5 August 2019 15: 38
    I saw slums in Paris too ... And homeless people, but still it's Paris ...
  6. +11
    5 August 2019 15: 46
    The author will now be accused of "propaganda of the West" wink
    And if on the topic, then as soon as you enter Belarus, the road is already transformed.
    Well, there are roadside toilets wink It’s worth writing a separate article about them
    1. +5
      5 August 2019 17: 58
      Quote: balunn
      And if on the topic, then as soon as you enter Belarus, the road is already transformed.
      Well, there are roadside toilets

      Not patriotic! We also have roadside outhouses on the M-4, though you don’t go there, and the best outhouse is at the gas station
      1. -1
        7 August 2019 00: 53
        The best outhouse at home. And before the trip you should not inflate with water. wink
      2. +1
        7 August 2019 10: 56
        Quote: Silvestr
        there are roadside outhouses on the M-4 too, though there’s no way

        Well, I don’t know ... Last year I was pretty puzzled by the very cleanliness of these establishments. Maybe at a good time I got ... request
  7. -4
    5 August 2019 15: 47
    Quote: 3vs
    earthworms crawl out of the ground and go crazy!

    There are not enough beds and wards in mental hospitals, of course ...
    1. +2
      5 August 2019 20: 37
      I have never seen a crazy worm. I wonder how it looks?
      1. +1
        6 August 2019 07: 01
        I have never seen a crazy worm. I wonder how it looks?

        And for this, first you need to go to the psychiatric hospital yourself and ask the doctor about it. He will explain, prescribe pills, and with them understanding will come.
        1. +1
          7 August 2019 10: 59
          Quote: Dimy4
          lie in a psychiatric hospital and ask a doctor about it.

          What for intermediaries? There you can talk directly with worms ... wassat
    2. +3
      5 August 2019 20: 51
      Quote: kalibr
      There are not enough beds and wards in mental hospitals, of course ...

      One of the ways to drive moles from the garden is to stick stakes and hang cans on them, the shtob rattled. Or bury a bucket with a speaker and twist it Ramstein, or Ozzy Osbourne. Everyone will run away. I suspect that the worms have the same problem, the windmills do not let them sleep.
      1. 0
        7 August 2019 00: 55
        We buried empty bottles with their neck out and the moles did not like it. In short, they disappeared from our garden.
        1. 0
          7 August 2019 01: 12
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          1. +4
            7 August 2019 01: 30
            From Kirkorov they simply die on the spot. laughing
    3. -1
      9 August 2019 13: 25
      Quote: kalibr

      Quote: 3vs
      earthworms crawl out of the ground and go crazy!

      There are not enough beds and wards in mental hospitals, of course ...
      Reply


      And the caliber is right there, working with 3wees together?

      Do you know what infrasound is ... and why animals, birds, including earthworms do not live in the zone of windmills ?!
  8. +2
    5 August 2019 15: 53
    We will wait for the continuation of the tour.
    And read the conclusion.
    And then we will draw conclusions.
    And how to embed !!!!!!!!!!!!!! negative
    For others to be discouraged. hi
  9. +2
    5 August 2019 15: 53
    in Poland 90% of houses along roadsides are new. Built after 1991 year

    I wonder how suddenly after the 1991 of the year the Poles so enriched themselves ... almost without exception, they rebuffed their new homes ... A riddle!
    1. +5
      5 August 2019 16: 01
      The West gave them several hundred billion dollars in subsidies and they did not eat them, but spent in the case
    2. +2
      5 August 2019 17: 59
      Quote: kunstkammer
      in Poland 90% of houses along roadsides are new. Built after 1991 year

      I wonder how suddenly after the 1991 of the year the Poles so enriched themselves ... almost without exception, they rebuffed their new homes ... A riddle!


      Not a riddle! West immediately to Poland 200 billions swelled
      1. 0
        7 August 2019 01: 13
        Quote: Silvestr
        Quote: kunstkammer
        in Poland 90% of houses along roadsides are new. Built after 1991 year

        I wonder how suddenly after the 1991 of the year the Poles so enriched themselves ... almost without exception, they rebuffed their new homes ... A riddle!


        Not a riddle! West immediately to Poland 200 billions swelled

        That vbuhali, yes! But they have a very strongly developed small business, not only in trade / services, but also full of small industries
        1. +1
          7 August 2019 04: 30
          Small business and we have developed well between 2003 and 2008, and then began to listen very much, especially from 2014 to our time. So the Poles will soon pay their debts, let’s see how their small business will stand.
          1. +1
            7 August 2019 12: 14
            It is yes) But you write about our development in the PAST TIME;) The present, (at the moment) is more sad, agree. And obvious signs, for the better, are not observed.
            And for the Poles, for now, everything is exactly what I am a witness to. And not "a look from the window", but by the presence of Polish friends
        2. 0
          8 August 2019 22: 34
          Their small business was developed even during the Polish People's Republic. And most of the peasants, even in socialist times, were individual farmers. Oddly enough, individual peasants for the most part did not create any special problems for the Polish authorities during the socialist era, even during the periods of crises that repeatedly occurred in Poland. Not without exceptions, of course. Maybe. the fact that in the countryside the PUWP shared power with the United Peasants' Party played a role. The latter (unlike most of the "allied parties" in Czechoslovakia, the GDR, Bulgaria), although it recognized the leading role of the PUWP, was not a puppet. And on issues of rural development, agriculture, the PUWP has always listened to the opinion of the OKP.
  10. +2
    5 August 2019 15: 54
    Windmills and solar panels are, of course, romantic and futuristic, but why are they interesting in carrying out daily power maneuvers?
    1. 0
      5 August 2019 16: 27
      They work during the day and turn off at night. In Greece, I saw so.
      1. +2
        6 August 2019 04: 31
        Then from where at night electricity, by candlelight live?
      2. +5
        6 August 2019 07: 50
        The peak energy consumption is 1.3-1.8 times the minimum observed from 17.00 to 21.00. Solar power here is a big minus, and jamming a windmill is the last thing. And maneuvering occurs due to thermal and hydropower facilities. A nuclear power plant allows this to be done in a narrow range.
  11. +8
    5 August 2019 16: 00
    All forests have a mesh fence.
    With us, do it, so they say "bloody cut" grabbed the forest.
    And we should be friends with them, and not conflict, have on our side, and not on the side of our opponents. Is it so difficult for our leadership to achieve this?
    Actually, it should be a mutual desire. And the Polish leadership does not see this desire.
    Wheat also grows on the hillsides and it is ... harvested with combine harvesters!
    Should they be sickles? Or did you mean something else to say?
    1. +5
      5 August 2019 18: 01
      Have a father-in-law in a village in the vegetable gardens, imagine a combine harvester harvesting wheat).
      All pensioners for half a city seeded with wheat, I saw more soybeans.
      1. +5
        5 August 2019 18: 11
        Quote: Fayter2017
        At the father-in-law in the village in the vegetable gardens,

        So I'm saying that this is a normal phenomenon not only over the "hill", but also here. And we sowed wheat on our site and harvested it with a combine. And fellow villagers too. The only thing is that the combines were provided by the collective farm. Well, in the 90s it was no longer a collective farm, but a partnership. Moreover, the equipment was allocated to employees free of charge. Therefore, I just did not understand the author's surprise / admiration for this moment.
        1. +1
          7 August 2019 14: 01
          In our village, through a house, or a personal tractor (such as Vladimirirets or newfangled mini tractors Belarus) or walk-behind tractors with attachments. And the plots are planted mainly with winter rye, oats or vetch - sederates.
    2. +8
      5 August 2019 18: 02
      Quote: Less
      With us, do it, so they say "bloody cut" grabbed the forest.


      On the M-4 along the road, mesh fences stand and no one says anything! On the contrary, thanks! Animals cannot jump from the forest under wheels
      1. +4
        5 August 2019 18: 17
        Quote: Silvestr
        On the contrary, thanks! Animals cannot jump from the forest under wheels

        And where I go, no, no, yes, whoever catches the thread of an elk or a wild boar on the hood)) And as a friend of the district police told me - if I caught a wild boar on the hood, don’t think about calling the forest guard. If you call, they will take away the boar. And at least you’ll stock up with stew. And the car is so, that commercials all one at their own expense to repair))
        1. +9
          5 August 2019 21: 07
          Quote: Less
          And where I go, no, no, yes, who-thread elk or boar will catch on the hood)

          This is bad. BUT the average speed on the M-4 is 110-140 and the boar can be fatal. The boar will become a carcass with the driver
  12. 0
    5 August 2019 16: 03
    I wonder how they are doing with the repair of these gates, because with so many of them this is not a comic problem
    1. +5
      5 August 2019 16: 26
      Apparently there is someone to do this. It would not be profitable, they would not build them. And as I was told in one country - you have Gazprom and oil, for this you do not need windmills :-)
    2. 0
      5 August 2019 22: 56
      Quote: Chaldon48
      I wonder how they are doing with the repair of these gates, because with so many of them this is not a comic problem

      There are special teams of such repairmen. Professional climbers in fact. And the equipment is appropriate. Work using helicopters
      1. 0
        6 August 2019 00: 15
        Well, helicopters violate the ecology! And if not joking, then these windmills will work out their resources sooner or later, it will be necessary to create an entire industry for their utilization.
        1. -2
          6 August 2019 07: 46
          In fact, this industry has already been created). There are thousands of these companies. In addition, the windmills are technologically very simple. There’s nothing to break. Enough to clean and lubricate the rotating parts in time
          1. +3
            6 August 2019 09: 16
            Not quite simple: a generator on a windmill, battery, voltage regulator, directional adjustment, protection from strong winds, a voltage converter from constant to alternating. And all this on windmills from 3kW to 200kW. And the more powerful, then only the defenses will be added every ten times.
            1. 0
              6 August 2019 13: 39
              All these protections are automated under the control of computers. Human participation is minimal.
              1. +2
                6 August 2019 14: 57
                The point is not the participation of man, but the rise in price of the system. The price of electricity generated by the wind turbine will be large and incomparable with the electricity of the same TPP.
  13. +12
    5 August 2019 16: 07
    A week ago I was in Poland and the Czech Republic, I first visited there in 2004.
    The difference is big, but in Poland it’s so huge, it is especially noticeable in the countryside, and in the cities too.
    Roads have become better than the Germans or Austrians, more noise suppressors, well-groomed roadsides.
    And about the tunnels, the road to Rome from Bologna goes through the Apennines through solid tunnels, you pass through the mountains without a single ascent or descent.
    1. -1
      6 August 2019 06: 21
      Is the ventilation in the tunnels normal?
      1. +1
        6 August 2019 10: 35
        Well, sitting on the bus nobody choked ...
    2. +2
      6 August 2019 07: 54
      From Udine to Graz, the same picture. I counted 27 tunnels on a stretch of about 120 km
  14. 0
    5 August 2019 16: 19
    Shpakovsky is a graphomaniac (in a good way).
  15. BAI
    +3
    5 August 2019 16: 41
    Well there are windmills in Europe. But we also have. Only the application concept is different - stations are being built, not individual towers.

    By the way, we still have a Kola tidal station, but not in Germany and Poland.
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    2. 0
      6 August 2019 06: 25
      Russia is too large, it is necessary to build environmentally friendly nuclear power plants.
    3. BAI
      0
      6 August 2019 08: 37
      I wonder why the link to the source of the map was deleted - where the stations are indicated.
      1. -1
        6 August 2019 12: 13
        Which stations are nuclear?
        1. BAI
          0
          6 August 2019 14: 31
          Windmills, naturally.
  16. 0
    5 August 2019 18: 09
    I read somewhere that either in Portugal or in Spain, after installing the windmills, the climate on the coast became arid, it turned out that the windmills raise rain clouds and carry them deep into the continent.
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 06: 27
      Any massive impact on nature does not pass without a trace.
    2. -1
      9 August 2019 13: 28
      Quote: Fayter2017

      I read somewhere that either in Portugal or in Spain, after installing the windmills, the climate on the coast became arid, it turned out that the windmills raise rain clouds and carry them deep into the continent.

      And here is another reason for the muck of windmills, not to mention infrasound ... and why animals, birds, and earthworms do not live in the zone of windmills ...
      1. -1
        9 August 2019 13: 43
        Quote: Dali
        animals, birds, including earthworms do not live in the zone of windmills ...

        Infa 100%?
  17. -3
    5 August 2019 18: 18
    Quote: Kronos
    in the case spent

    that is, roughly speaking, given to people? Well, if 90% of new homes? Savetsku power Poles do not dream to revive? Unlike the majority of the Russian population ...
    The Russians have only to set fire to the forest. So that the village burns down and instead of the squalid shacks of the 30 of the last century receive compensation from the state.
    Burn, burn clearly ... so as not to go out!
    This is not Poland for you.
    1. +4
      5 August 2019 23: 22
      From Poland, the West made a "showcase of capitalism" by writing off all debts and injecting 150 Baku lards.
  18. +2
    5 August 2019 18: 26
    Believe me, this is convenient.


    Pha))))))))))) Then you can not read ...
  19. 0
    5 August 2019 19: 14
    The hills are steep! Special harvesters!
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 04: 34
      And in our mountains how do harvesters go?
  20. +1
    5 August 2019 19: 31
    Quote: Less
    Therefore, I just did not understand the author’s surprise / admiration for this moment.

    I have not seen this in my region, but Russia is great.
  21. +12
    5 August 2019 19: 40
    And we should be friends with them, and not conflict, have on our side, and not on the side of our opponents. Is it so difficult for our leadership to achieve this? Do not know how? So let them learn, damn it!

    This is where the "unthinkable" is. We are probably demolishing Polish monuments, and in all our troubles we brand the Poles! It is clear that having an academic degree is not yet an indicator of a broad outlook. But if you start to remember the devil, maybe you first need to figure out where the "legs grow" in this problem? We, as you say, need to be friends, but what about them? In your opinion - no. They are taught to be friends, as well as to shit on the graves of their liberators. It would be damn it for you, forgetful and unwilling to respect their country. I can't understand why you are trying to put your country in your pocket? Everything "there" is better and more instructive for you than in your own country ... Go teach students this too ... After such a study, they arrange landfills by the roads. For your information, Poland is a debtor country with a public debt of more than 50% of GDP. And for another 10 years of EU membership, she received 101,3 billion euros of assistance within the framework of programs aimed at improving the standard of living and the competitiveness of the Polish economy. This is evidenced by the data of the Ministry of Finance of Poland. I would like to emphasize that we are talking about gratuitous grants - these are not loans, these are gifts. Which don't even need to be returned. It should be added that Poland is the most mono-national country in the EU. She created such conditions for small peoples that they either left the country or became pollinated. This is a direct indicator of ardent nationalism in public policy. I will not dwell separately on the direct and active participation of Polish state structures in the 2014 coup in Ukraine. That's what we need to talk about, at least in the VO. Who are you here to teach friendship with, and whom? All you have to kick the power ... Why? Are you living badly? Or not regularly?
    1. -9
      5 August 2019 21: 47
      The process of rapprochement is always reciprocal. The strength of the strong is the first to reach out to the wrong. And to scream with foam at the mouth "they are bad" and this (the word forbidden in VO) can. And remember - such philippics do not work for me!
      1. +13
        5 August 2019 22: 19
        Quote: kalibr
        And remember - such philippics do not affect me!

        You are an adult with an established worldview. Trying to convince you is not grateful. What has grown has grown. I, too, am no longer a pioneer, and I do not plan to become like Sisyphus.
        Quote: kalibr
        The process of rapprochement is always mutual.

        This is true, but for some reason you assigned the responsibility to learn to be friends to the Russian leadership, leaving the Poles out of criticism.
        Quote: kalibr
        The strength of the strong is the first to reach out to the wrong.

        In 1945 we did just that, despite the complicated history of relations in the pre-war years, and in the military as well. And 600 of our (and your) fellow citizens gave their lives for the existence of this country. I don’t think you don’t know how today's Polish political elite "responds" to this outstretched hand.
        Quote: kalibr
        And to scream with foam at the mouth "they are bad" and this (the word forbidden in VO) can.

        No need to shout, especially "with foam ....". Or do you want to present "foam" as an indicator of mental health? Well, okay, let's skip ... I would not even say that they are "bad" there. No. They are just our enemies. But only. They have been like that since the time of St. Vladimir, and they are like that today. And our attitude towards them must be built on this conviction. And if we bear in mind the campaign of the Poles to slander the USSR and Russia in connection with the anniversaries of August 1 and September 1, then it would be more appropriate not to blame "ours" for the state of the Cold War in Russian-Polish relations, but to be brief and objective (on as much as possible) an explanation of the events that I have mentioned. In this context, your praises to Poland, from my point of view, are clearly inappropriate. I think so. It seems that we are with you in different "trenches".
        1. -3
          5 August 2019 23: 29
          Quote: Den717
          They are just our enemies. Only. Such they were from the time of St. Vladimir, they are today.

          You flatter them. But you do not burn a mosquito into your enemies. laughing
          1. +8
            6 August 2019 06: 21
            Quote: ultra
            You flatter them. But you do not burn a mosquito into your enemies.

            The mosquito may not, but the tick is a specific enemy and distracts a tangible resource. Poland is not a tick, much less a mosquito. This is a fairly large country on our western borders, albeit indirect, that has a serious tangible destructive effect on our immediate neighbors, Ukraine and Belarus. Having a considerable time in its composition the western parts of Ukraine, she brought up in their inhabitants those specific features that today crush the once powerful republic of our country. Poland, as a political adversary, should not be neglected. This bug can bring a lot of trouble.
      2. +2
        5 August 2019 23: 25
        [quote = kalibr] The process of rapprochement is always mutual. [/ "Do you think Russia is to blame for bad relations with Poland?
      3. +2
        6 August 2019 06: 34
        You need to get close, after some time, even with former enemies, but without losing face and to mutual benefit.
  22. +4
    5 August 2019 22: 09
    Recently, I see the second material like this - the author escaped to Europe and squeals with delight. Of course, a change of scenery increases efficiency, here, for example, when we dug up a bed under winter potatoes (is there such a thing, don’t it, but it is, by the way), we can proceed to weed weeding. And at the weekend you can go down the path and to the river, and the tunnel is not needed.
    Mad, bridges, fields, fans ...
  23. -4
    5 August 2019 22: 17
    We must not forget that the West has always tried to "show off". Built along expensive and different things, and if you look closely, it turns out that this is just a banner stretched over a house or a forest and houses are printed. We set up windmills along the roads - and they harm birds, frighten animals and drive worms crazy! Only you will not be shown this from the windows of the bus, and if you want to get out and look around the fence, you will not be able to see it. And the illusion is created that everything is fine there, but with us everything is not so. But this is not the case. They cheat you in the most natural way! "Potemkin villages" - if you don't know what it is, then read it.
  24. +8
    5 August 2019 22: 49
    We have five such windmills only on the seashore near Zelenogradsk near Kaliningrad and ... that's all. Maybe eat somewhere else? But along the roads to Saratov and Chelyabinsk, they certainly do not stand, and this is cheap and environmentally friendly energy.

    It’s never cheap, this energy!
    Did you find out the cost of windmills? The cost of their repair and maintenance? Well, find out! And translate the cost per kilowatt / hour ....
    1. 0
      6 August 2019 06: 40
      And she is so clean. I would like to know what the life cycle of windmills is and what they are going to do with them later. Hire sappers?
  25. -3
    6 August 2019 00: 17
    "Yes, and our and Polish haplogroups are Slavic by more than 50%, that is, the Poles are our closest relatives, and not just neighbors. And we should be friends with them, not conflict, have on our side, not on the side of our opponents ... Is it so difficult for our leadership to achieve this? Do not know how? So let them learn, damn it! We do not have so many potential allies of real Europeans, for some reason we are striving more and more to climb into Asia, the mentality of which we do not know and do not understand, to the Middle East (still that "viper"), and even to Africa. But this remark is so ... had to be said. "

    Poles are under the Americans. The latter (so far) are much richer than ours, so our leadership cannot do anything.
  26. -4
    6 August 2019 06: 35
    Quote: sevryuk
    The latter (so far) are much richer than ours, so our leadership cannot do anything.

    But we are closer! There is always something 0 can do, would be desire and skill. They are now teaching to remove objections in trade!
    1. -2
      6 August 2019 10: 31
      About - three minuses. Three have neither desire nor skill. Everyone owes them.
  27. -2
    6 August 2019 06: 39
    Quote: Rus_Balt
    it’s just a banner on a house pulled up or a forest and houses printed.

    I haven’t been written yet ... It’s necessary ... The banner ... is strange, but I went to this banner out of necessity and far ...
  28. -2
    6 August 2019 06: 42
    Quote: Chaldon48
    You need to get close, after some time, even with former enemies, but without losing face and to mutual benefit.

    Without any doubt!
  29. -1
    6 August 2019 06: 44
    Quote: ultra
    The process of rapprochement is always mutual. [/ “Do you think Russia is to blame for bad relations with Poland?”

    Here it is necessary to look not for who is to blame, but what to do. Seek guilty non-constructive approach.
    1. 0
      10 August 2019 11: 15
      .There it is necessary to look not for who is to blame, but what to do

      Friendship must be mutual, but in Poland, it works ideology hatred (Russophobia), as well as, there is a state institution - "the institute of national memory", which monitors the observance of ideology. Poland, in order to start making friends, needs to abandon ideology and dissolve the "institute of national memory." Until these actions, one-sided friendship with the Russophobic state is impossible.
      In Russia, by the way, ideology is prohibited, and there are no institutions like the Institute of National Memory.
  30. 0
    6 August 2019 06: 46
    Quote: Den717
    In this context, your praises to Poland, from my point of view, are clearly inappropriate.

    Where are the praises? It is described that is. Or are there bad houses, dirt everywhere, right? Photo in front of you ...
  31. 0
    6 August 2019 06: 50
    Quote: Den717
    It seems that we are with you in different "trenches".

    Trench consciousness and yours and a significant part of Russians is bad. Everyone owes you, everyone deceived and offends you, All enemies ... this is impossible today.
  32. 0
    6 August 2019 07: 06
    Quote: Dimy4
    I have never seen a crazy worm. I wonder how it looks?

    And for this, first you need to go to the psychiatric hospital yourself and ask the doctor about it. He will explain, prescribe pills, and with them understanding will come.

    Damn, what are we writing about on a WAR review?
    1. +1
      6 August 2019 10: 30
      Quote: Dimy4
      Damn, what are we writing about on a WAR review?

      Fritters, Dmitry! Write yourself something purely military ...
      1. 0
        6 August 2019 10: 34
        I mean crazy worms, my thoughts (and not mine), and not your story about the journey.
  33. +2
    6 August 2019 07: 49
    Question to the author - how much does such an order cost?
    1. +3
      6 August 2019 08: 49
      Previously, the author was a communist propagandist .... And now ... it’s understandable in general ...... here the author will fall into America, will he not tear him up with delight?
      1. +3
        6 August 2019 10: 30
        And what is really poorly written?
        1. 0
          6 August 2019 12: 22
          Honestly, not your best article.
  34. -1
    6 August 2019 09: 53
    Nets are everywhere! Not like ours, where anyone can easily stop on the side of the highway or drive off and go looking for mushrooms.
    I don’t want to sit behind the net, I want to go out and pick mushrooms wherever I want. This is Freedom!
  35. +2
    6 August 2019 10: 27
    The issue with payment is not for me, but for the site administration. But do you want to say that this is all untrue? What roads are there only bumps, houses - pimped and dumps around? Go and see for yourself ...
  36. +2
    6 August 2019 10: 33
    Quote: Azis
    And at the weekend you can go down the path and to the river, and the tunnel is not needed.

    Someone who likes pop, some who have pops, some who have a daughter, said the devil, took off his underpants and sat in the nettle.
  37. +1
    6 August 2019 10: 33
    Quote: Den717
    Trying to convince you is not grateful.

    It's right! From the word at all ... one must be a very authoritative person ...
  38. +1
    6 August 2019 10: 40
    Two more minus signers are clearly ... not adequate ... Are the clouds running across the sky also on the banner? And the rain ...
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 11: 31
      Ha ha ha, don’t pay attention to them. Good article, a couple of questions why there are no photos of German villages, uh how do I like German villages, and also solar fields?
  39. +3
    6 August 2019 11: 29
    Quote: kalibr
    Quote: sevryuk
    The latter (so far) are much richer than ours, so our leadership cannot do anything.

    But we are closer! There is always something 0 can do, would be desire and skill. They are now teaching to remove objections in trade!


    The argumentation is not entirely clear: Poland (its leadership, to be more precise) is oriented towards the United States, hostile, what does territorial proximity have to do with it? Do you always make friends with your neighbor in everyday life, no matter what nasty things he does? Are you a Tolstoyan? What is "trade objection withdrawal"? Who "teaches"?
  40. +3
    6 August 2019 11: 59
    Quote: Alex_You
    Good article, a couple of questions why there are no photos of German villages, uh how do I like German villages, and also solar fields?

    Good question. There are no German villages because they were driving in the rain. All the windows were wet, it was impossible to remove. It ended only when we entered Berlin. I've been trying to shoot battery fields for three years now. And in Spain, and in Germany, and in the Czech Republic ... but the window turns out badly and inexpressively. It is necessary from somewhere above, so that the "volume" is visible, so that the sun lets glare ...
    1. +6
      6 August 2019 14: 48

      And I didn’t ride in the rain, though it was about five years ago.
      1. +3
        6 August 2019 16: 13
        Well, here you are so lucky ... The picture is cool, even now on the cover of NG.
        1. +3
          6 August 2019 16: 56
          I admit, I didn't shoot. I had a factory "soap dish" with me, which "cannot be lifted" such a picture. The son of a German colleague, who was taking us to Hardheim, was filming. He writes for technical magazines. But the idea is mine.
          1. +3
            6 August 2019 17: 04
            By the way, if the conversation has already started on a topic. In Germany, wind generators account for 18% of the electricity generated in the country, and solar panels - 10%.
            1. +3
              6 August 2019 18: 34
              Thank you, dear Victor Nikolaevich! I use ... so I don’t look for it myself.
      2. +2
        6 August 2019 21: 30
        Enchanting photo! But still remember that I'm a bastard? Is this the spoiler of the German series on the work of the Strugatsky?
        1. +4
          6 August 2019 22: 09
          Bravo, Anton. I was still waiting for someone to right-click on the photo and use the "Find picture (Google) function and catch me lying. But no one checked, only you still showed some observation.
          It’s clear that this is Photoshop. Open the Internet, it is full of articles in different languages ​​about renewable energy, and many use this screensaver, the author of which is unknown to me.
          It was also used a couple of years ago in his article for the magazine "World of Architecture" by the son of a colleague from Germany, with whom we still maintain relations, and I ripped off from him.
          I remembered him when I read with Vyacheslav Olegovich "It is necessary from somewhere above, so that the" volume "is visible, so that the sun lets glare ...".
          So this is a clean joke on my part.
          In general, such filming is a serious matter, requiring skills, cool equipment and luck.
          This is how a Chinese photographer shot a thunderstorm amid windmills.
          1. +2
            7 August 2019 07: 55
            It is unlikely that this is observation, Victor Nikolaevich, just a very bright picture gave birth to an association. Meanwhile, I have never seen the combined use of windmills and solar panels ...
            1. +1
              7 August 2019 11: 39
              Anton, forgot to write about this. In the same Poland, like mine in Penza, there are lanterns with solar panels on the highway. In Poland, the same, but above them are still small fans. Conveniently!
              1. 0
                7 August 2019 18: 59
                A fan, in the sense of a mini-bulb?
  41. +3
    6 August 2019 12: 05
    Quote: sevryuk
    The argumentation is not entirely clear: Poland (its leadership, to be more precise) is oriented towards the United States, hostile, what does territorial proximity have to do with it? Do you always make friends with your neighbor in everyday life, no matter what nasty things he does? Are you a Tolstoyan? What is "trade objection withdrawal"? Who "teaches"?

    And where do you come from?
    Then I don’t even know how to answer. How can a kid explain the Carnot curve in a sandbox?
    "And here is the territorial proximity" - moreover, it is close.
    "Focused on the United States" - is it impossible to peri-orientate?
    I’m not friends with fools as neighbors, but ... we greet each other and do not do dirty tricks to each other.
    "Remove objections" ... is to remove. A person pisses in the eyes, and you are "God's dew" to him, because you need a person. You will always have time to get even with him for this later.
    "Who teaches"? There are special courses for salespeople and managers.
  42. +1
    6 August 2019 12: 07
    Quote: tihonmarine
    I don’t want to sit behind the net, I want to go out and pick mushrooms wherever I want. This is Freedom!

    And then drink vodka, burn a fire in dry land with the wind, then ... then leave as soon as possible so as not to get on the bunk. Liberty!
    1. +1
      6 August 2019 12: 24
      You seem to have confused freedom with permissiveness. Your story about the fire can be continued. You saw that it’s already blazed, and here the forester, and you have a gun, you’re his broads and hell, he’s a witness, why on the bench, and they only let you see the gas, and the fire will hide everything! Wow!
  43. +3
    6 August 2019 16: 21
    So after all, masterpieces, Andrei, do not bake like pancakes, and the site should be updated daily, right? In addition, people get tired of the monotony. And again ... Let's say you're a fan of the Knightly Armor of the Thirty Years War. You want articles about them. You tell me: go to Graz ... there ... I - sponsor you! You - to me: Yes, no question! As a result, a cycle appears, a book, and I present it to you with a touching inscription. But DOES WE SUCH POSSIBLE ?. No! In this case, you have to endure Hyperborea, and descriptions of medical experiments, and tours.
  44. The article is not designed in anti-NATO style. Ideologically wrong.

    It hurts THEM all well-groomed. It’s like the war ended 74 years ago ...
    Tolley deal with us ... like yesterday!
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 21: 14
      In the next article there will be photos of homeless people, beggars, places of their nights ... here our people will be happy !!!
  45. Quote: SHVEDsky_stol
    Somewhere at VO it was discussed that the so-called "green" energy is a purely subsidized industry.

    ***
    There, the state subsidizes citizens, and here the state and citizens subsidize RAO UES and other energy monopolists.
  46. Quote: kalibr
    In the next article there will be photos of homeless people, beggars, places of their nights ... here our people will be happy !!!

    ***
    And it will be right!

    It is necessary to show the bestial face of capitalism, and not to extol his human ass!
  47. +4
    7 August 2019 01: 08
    One such bridge for the beast


    The bridge for the BEAST killed me. Vyacheslav Olegovich, is that true? And then you and Vic Nikolayevich will take a joke ... smile
    1. +5
      7 August 2019 01: 35
      This is called an eco-product. In Russia, too, there are such. One for sure

      This is an eco-product on the 170th kilometer of the "Ukraine" highway. Commissioned in 2016.
      1. +2
        7 August 2019 01: 41
        You can abbalde! The first time I heard about this. I’m sitting in my village and nowhere, only along the radius of the quadric. Vic, isn’t this just another joke like with windmills and panels?
        1. +5
          7 August 2019 02: 11
          No, this is not Hochma, this is the norm in the whole world.
          There are ecotunnels. In Russia, too, there is one, in the Primorsky Territory.
          1. +4
            7 August 2019 02: 17
            You know, I’m afraid that local turbopatriots will flaunt me, but in the Netherlands there are more than 600 such eco-tunnels and eco-tunnels, including the longest eco-tunnel in the world - 800 meters.
            And in the United States there are several thousand.
            .
          2. +3
            7 August 2019 11: 37
            [quote = Undecim] No, this is not Hochma, this is the norm in the whole world.
            There are ecotunnels. In Russia, too, there is one, in the Primorsky Territory.
            The first and so far the only one.
      2. +1
        7 August 2019 11: 43
        Three years ago in the Vologda Oblast I saw an eco-product.
    2. +1
      7 August 2019 09: 02
      Rather not "for", rather "from" ...
    3. +1
      7 August 2019 11: 38
      Well, Konstantin. They don’t joke like that!
      1. +2
        7 August 2019 16: 46
        Something becomes clear to me. Here, on the Ryazan-Chelyabinsk highway, in the middle of a clean field and in the complete absence of nearby villages, there is a very high pedestrian bridge. Each time, driving under it, I thought, but for hell is it needed here? Now everything is clear !
        1. +1
          7 August 2019 20: 01
          Wrong again, Konstantin! In our beloved Motherland, behind each high pedestrian crossing there are several graves.
  48. +1
    7 August 2019 10: 35
    Quote: Undecim
    You know, I’m afraid that local turbopatriots are going to infect me,

    Don’t be afraid! Do not be afraid to go to local hamsters.
    1. +3
      7 August 2019 16: 41
      And what fear them, the hamster is not a dangerous animal, but just stinky. Or am I beguiling him with a ferret? smile
      1. +1
        7 August 2019 19: 53
        You are wrong, Konstantin! Hamsters (animals), extremely clean rodents. Unlike Rushen Militari Lemmings.
        1. +2
          7 August 2019 20: 29
          Anton, you have already greeted me with my mistakes, well, praise me at least in something. I understand that after transferring the capital to Moscow, Peter experiences a certain inferiority complex. As I was told in St. Petersburg in the seventies: "We also wear it." But now you should be happy, almost the entire Kremlin Caudla that is trying to rule the state is from St. Petersburg. So what are we talking about? Anton, to be honest, your city supplies predatory hamsters to all countries. Delivers and supplies.
          1. +1
            7 August 2019 21: 06
            Konstantin!
            1. I admire your life experience, acquaintance with the Armory "storerooms", possession of an ATV, etc.!
            2. I should not blame the origin of Clear Sun and others like him, I love my city, regardless of its natives, who have reached some heights.
            3. Hamsters - really clean.
            4. If I am sick of it, then I’m not captive and not imposed, I have one life principle, which I rarely voice.
            1. +3
              7 August 2019 21: 35
              Anton, in relation to "life pryntsyp" can not be voiced, we are not enemies. And okay about my experience of "owning a quadric", what the hell are you talking about? Kicking little things is unworthy. Not expected. We have nothing to argue about, just a joke - there is no joke. For "zadolbal" - sorry, I shouldn't have let my tongue go. As for the rest: I was in the "Armory" only once, I was little interested in what is cold, what is the most beautiful products of famous gunsmiths. I went there only because of the collection of gifts to Stalin, there was nothing for automatic weapons to do in this "Babi kingdom". Now, alas, my department has turned into the same "kingdom", and how much was stolen there after we left the museum, another question. And big.
              1. +1
                7 August 2019 21: 52
                Kicking the little things is really unworthy. I didn’t kick. I really, in a good way, envy your possession of an ATV.
                As for the rest, I took your comment as a run over from scratch, especially in the section of my fraternity with the main defendants in the current Russian political elite.
                1. +2
                  7 August 2019 22: 01
                  Anton !!! Pancake!!! Well, there was no collision! I really didn’t think that you take it that way. It was just a market for a glass of vodka, and no more. There may be a difference in what I drank, but you do not? Well then, excuse me, my friend, she wasn’t going to fool around, let alone offend you somehow. Sorry, really.
                  1. +1
                    8 August 2019 06: 49
                    OK, deal. drinks
  49. 0
    7 August 2019 16: 15
    On both sides of the road already in Poland there are windmills of generators. And every year there are more of them.

    When generating electricity, there must be a balance between generation and consumption. A large number of wind turbines in Germany create a "generation saw". That is, uneven generation. This unevenness is smoothed out by coal and gas power plants, which also incur losses.
    the EU has a common energy system, and the "saw of generation" was compensated by Poland, incurring losses.
    It looks like the Poles decided to export the "generation saw" to someone else.
    And further. The largest number of windmills in Germany (in the EU), and at the same time they have the most expensive electricity.
    1. 0
      7 August 2019 17: 23
      https://windeurope.org/about-wind/statistics/european/wind-energy-in-europe-in-2018/# - отчет Wind Europa за 2018 год.
      While we have sofa experts, "relying on logic and school knowledge," talk about the terrible "saw of generation", in Europe experts, relying on knowledge, build wind power.
  50. +2
    7 August 2019 18: 31
    Quote: Undecim
    building wind power.
    Reply

    Then we will catch up and overtake! It turns out that everything is OK with worms and that we also need ... in the ass of oil! (this is a joke like this)
  51. +2
    7 August 2019 20: 40
    Yes, such a small windmill. Below is an inclined solar panel, and above is a wind turbine.
  52. +1
    7 August 2019 20: 43
    Quote: sevryuk
    The Poles are under the Americans.

    Why not below us? They're further away. We are closer... more comfortable under us.
  53. 0
    8 August 2019 22: 45
    We need to dig around the web to find out more information. But, in my opinion, the statement that 90% of private houses in Poland were built after 1991 is an exaggeration.
  54. +2
    9 August 2019 13: 34
    Let Mr. Shpakovsky remind the Forum residents how many lards of euros of subsidies Poland has already received from the EU and how Poland is jittery about the expiration date of this assistance...

    There will be no money for free - then it will be visible in 5-10 years.
    1. +1
      9 August 2019 13: 39
      Quote: Dali
      Ust, Mr. Shpakovsky will remind residents of Forum how many lards of euro subsidies Poland has already received from the EU

      Orders of magnitude less free oil and gas windfalls than the Russian Federation for the same period
      1. 0
        9 August 2019 13: 54
        Quote: Town Hall
        Orders of magnitude less free oil and gas windfalls than the Russian Federation for the same period

        1) Specific numbers to the studio!!!
        2) Well, it would be nice to have a calculation of these funds - how much per unit of territory. By the way, the length of the required roads in Russia and the conditions of their maintenance in comparison with Poland would also like to see from you.
        3) And the fact that they steal in Russia is no secret to anyone, in fact, just like in Poland.
  55. 0
    10 August 2019 06: 47
    I also advise you to go to China and sing songs about it.
    1. 0
      13 August 2019 11: 15
      Only if you repay me for this trip. I don’t like, let’s say, people with certain biological characteristics in very large numbers.
      1. 0
        13 August 2019 13: 57
        No. I won't give you money.
        The most interesting thing is that if we take mentality, the Chinese are probably closest to us. Any Russian there integrates into society with amazing speed. So dislike is such a thing. Relative. :-)

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