Weapon manufacturers. Germanic clones AR-15 and AR-18

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Firms that produce weapon. The success of the AR-15 showed that this rifle has great commercial potential. Anything that has this potential is produced, marketed and sold. So the German company Heckler & Koch GmbH has also started producing automatic rifles based on the AR-15 with the corresponding, of course, German quality. In our language, it is a limited liability company established to manufacture small arms in 1949. Today it is one of the leading companies supplying weapons to the army and police both in Germany itself and in other countries of the world. The company is headquartered in Oberndorf an der Neckar, Baden-Württemberg. Gradually developing, the company has become one of the leaders in the world arms market in several positions at once, one of which is automatic rifles, both of the original design and on the basis of the aforementioned AR-15. However, before we start a story about its Germanic counterparts, let's get acquainted with history This company is a well-known manufacturer of modern high-quality weapons.

Weapon manufacturers. Germanic clones AR-15 and AR-18

German Army G36 automatic rifle with Zeiss RSA-S Reflex Sight and 40-mm grenade launcher.




Firm on ... wreckage!


It all began with the fact that in 1945 French troops destroyed the Mauser arms factory. However, its chief engineers Edmund Heckler, Theodor Koch and Alex Seidel managed to save something from the wreckage, and this was the beginning of the arms company they created, registered in the winter of 1949 under the name Heckler und Koch GmbH. However, at first, no one even thought of letting out weapons on it. The company made sewing machines, measuring instruments and just ordinary tools and much more. Only in 1956, when the Bundeswehr needed a new weapon, the company's engineers offered the army men the G3 rifle. In 1959, she entered service and thus the military career of H&K began. The original G3 was not in fact. Its semi-free breech system was borrowed from one of the developments of the Mauser company. However, it was she who for many years became the hallmark of the H&K company, and was used both in the G3 automatic rifles and in the MP-5 submachine guns.


Norwegian rifle AG-3 caliber 7,62 mm. Essentially G3. Right view


Failure with the G11 rifle


Almost immediately after this, H&K specialists began to develop a unique G3 rifle to replace the G11, designed to use caseless cartridges of 4,7 mm caliber, with a cut-off when firing 3 shots, so that the recoil would act on the shooter only after all three bullets had left would be the bore. There were many unusual solutions in the rifle. For example, three 50-charge magazines were located on its receiver at once, although the cartridges were fed from only one. The work progressed with great difficulty, but by 1990 the G11 was fully developed and even put into service. However, it almost immediately fell a "victim of politics", because at that time the Berlin Wall fell, and NATO decided to unify ammunition for small arms.


G11 rifle. Right view


Put away, take a closer look!


All this hurt the company. She was on the verge of bankruptcy and was bought by the British arms concern Royal Ordnance. However, in 2002, the British again sold it to private investors Heckler and Koch Beteiligungs GmbH. A year later, the company split. One unit began to produce military weapons, and the other sports and hunting. In addition, she has a branch in the United States in Arlington, Virginia. The latter was a necessary measure, since under US law the purchase of weapons by government agencies and the army can only be carried out by national manufacturers who pay taxes to the federal and state budgets at the place of registration. This was done because the American small arms market turned out to be more priority for the company than all others. In addition, while in the United States, the company found it easier to fulfill all the requirements of the tactical and technical tasks of the American army.

New time, new songs!


Meanwhile, already in the 90 year, in all the armies of the leading countries of the world, there was a transition to weapons under low-pulse cartridges, and only Germany, which had once been ahead of the rest in this direction, was now trailing in the tail with its 7,62 × 51 mm NATO cartridge. Which, by the way, has long required the transition to the 5,56-mm caliber, and the 7,62 × 51 mm cartridge was recommended to be kept only for unified machine guns and sniper rifles.


Swedish Ak-4 - Another G3 Option


In addition, after the fall of the Iron Curtain, the military doctrine of the FRG itself changed dramatically. Now the priorities of the Bundeswehr are peacekeeping and anti-terrorism operations, the fight against international drug trafficking and arms smuggling, sometimes in difficult and difficult geographical conditions. The bulky and heavy G3 didn’t do much for this, and of course, fire in bursts with such a powerful cartridge from it turned out to be ineffective.

A purely physical one was added to moral aging - the old rifles simply worked out their entire resources and they urgently needed to be replaced! With the finances of the Bundeswehr in the early 90-ies it was not very good, so we decided not to develop new weapons, but to hold a competition to select the best available weapons. As a result, a group of representatives of the Air Force and Navy selected 10 models of machine guns and 7 models of light machine guns, of which the Austrian Steyr AUG and the German HK50 turned out to be the best. The internal designation of the rifle was G36, and now its commission finally took it away.

AR-18 in German


The most interesting thing is that the design of the new rifle actually repeated the American AR-1963 company ArmaLite, created back in 18. In fact, it was a simplified clone of AR-15 / M-16, which also used a gas piston, instead of directly diverting gases to the valve, but the U.S. Army chose an earlier model, and refused a later one. And although this rifle was also produced, in particular in England and Japan, it did not find much popularity, except that it was lit up among the IRA terrorists and in the movie “Terminator”.


Rifle AR-180 - one of the options AR-18


According to the same principle, that is, with the use of automation with a short stroke of the piston, which has its own spring, the German G36 was arranged. Experts noted the comfortable nature of firing from this rifle, excellent ergonomics (you can control the rifle with both your left and right hands) and good characteristics with regard to accuracy of fire. A transparent plastic store made it possible to control the ammunition consumption, and the butt was able to be folded, which was not achieved in the case of the M-16 rifle.

The rifle was adopted and German units began to use it in Afghanistan. And only then it became clear that with prolonged shooting the rifle overheats so that it is no longer possible to use it. Even if its heating was not too large, its accuracy still drops dramatically, cleaning its piston group is difficult, and the trigger is simply impossible. In addition, the plastic stores cracked in the cold, and the rifle itself was heavier, albeit not by much, of our AK-74.

As a result, already in March 2015, both the German Ministry of Defense and the government were forced to admit that the G36 did not live up to expectations, and in April it was decided to completely withdraw from service all the 167 000 G36 rifles fired by that time. So another clone of the American rifle AR-15 suffered a crushing fiasco.

Zigzag of Luck


But then the company quickly drew conclusions and managed to rectify the situation. A new HK416 assault rifle was created, but already based on the AR-15 rifle itself and very similar to the American M4 carbine. With the same T-shaped cocking handle, but with a gas engine with a short stroke of the gas piston. The devil is in the details, and in this case, preserving as a whole all the main details of the system, the Germans went through minor alterations and improvements. They increased the survivability of the barrel, which is done by cold forging, improved the operation of the piston group, and the new machine stopped overheating (as did the M4), or rather, let’s say so - the heat from firing became acceptable. True, I had to abandon the butt, leaning to the right. Therefore, the HK416 had to put all the same multi-position telescopic stock similar to what was previously on the M4.

Meanwhile, the US military decided that the assault rifles based on the M-16 \ AR-15 no longer meet all the requirements of modern combat. Moreover, the system has completely exhausted the possibilities of modernization. As is customary, a competition for new designs was announced. And according to its results, the US Marine Corps just chose the NK 416 rifle (the American designation M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR)). The fact is that the US Marine Corps does not obey the army and decides what to shoot its fighters from.


HK416N Norwegian Army


It was decided to purchase 50 M814 automatic rifles, which were to be produced by Heckler & Koch. The rearmament process began a year ago, so the company can be congratulated on its success. She also went into service with the Norwegian special forces, which, of course, speaks of her rather high combat characteristics. However, experts say that the NK27, although it surpasses the M-416 in reliability, still falls short of the Kalashnikov assault rifle. Moreover, the rifles FN FNC, FN SCAR and Sig Sauer 16 have a higher rate. So the Norwegians complain that in winter temperatures typical for Norway, it happens to fail. Increased dustiness also harms it and leads to failures, although there are fewer of them than under the same conditions for the M550, and cleaning a new sample is much easier.


NK416F-S Army of France. Author photo



Here we see the same rifle, but also show pockets for shops and a “super” glove in the upper right corner of the photo


But the greatest success awaited the German company in Europe, where Heckler & Koch managed to win a tender for the supply of new assault rifles for the French army. It featured the HK416F rifle, which competed with samples from Beretta, Sig Sauer, HS Produkt and FN Herstal and was able to outperform its competitors. As a result, it was accepted into service and its massive deliveries began.


HK416A5 is a shorter version. Author photo


The 416 mm HK5,56F model, designed to replace the old FAMAS, exists in two versions (with a long and a short barrel), and it will take about 400 thousand units of new "equipment" to completely replace it, plus American order, so in this case, Heckler & Koch worked very, very effectively. In addition, the new model also includes all kinds of accessories for it, civilian models, which will immediately follow to the market, following the main army models, so that the profit, in the end, and a very considerable company is guaranteed. However, the German quality is inherent in the AR-15 rifle and other German firms, but more on that in the continuation of this material.


HK417 is distinguished only by the caliber 7,62-mm and the fact that it is used by snipers. Author photo


R.S. It very rarely happens that you prepare some kind of material, and the information for it literally floats into your hands by itself. In this case, I was lucky to be in Paris on July 14 and attend the celebration of the storming of the Bastille. On this occasion, an exposition of modern weapons of the army of the French Republic was deployed at the Army Museum, starting with the Mirage fighter, drones and BA and ending with its modern rifle. These photos were taken there, and most importantly, we managed to hold all these rifles in our hands and talk to those who represented them. "Our FAMAS is outdated!" - I was told by an officer at the stand. "But ... what about the traditions of the French shooting school ... the prestige of the nation ..." "We take the best, but where it comes from, today it does not matter." That's the point, yes! However, the rifle is comfortable to hold in your hands (not heavy and very handy), although due to the abundance of angles on the Picatinny rails, the forearm is not very comfortable to hold. But in those gloves that are shown in the top photo, this inconvenience is most likely not felt.


But this photo is very funny. Although it is strictly forbidden to take photographs of the French army, and all attempts to persuade them to stop them are in the bud, I still managed to beg this to be taken with my granddaughter. Well ... he couldn’t refuse such a blonde, and as a result we see a photo of a soldier in full outfit for security missions in an urban environment. Moreover, his rifle is still old - FAMAS, although many of the soldiers who patrolled Paris on 14 in July already had brand new HK416

To be continued ...
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  1. +8
    6 August 2019 18: 13
    Thank you for the article. Here are just photos G3 and G11 mixed up.
    1. +1
      6 August 2019 21: 24
      Swedish AK4 mixed up with G11.
  2. 0
    6 August 2019 18: 25
    Maybe not in the subject, but why the heck did the Germans put a bracket on the "shooter"? (carrying delirium)
    1. +4
      6 August 2019 19: 36
      “Bracket” was needed to raise the sighting line above the barrel, with the spread of modern collimators (which are themselves quite high) and folding diopter pillars, this has lost relevance.
    2. +1
      6 August 2019 19: 45
      Quote: tarakan
      Maybe not in the subject, but why the heck did the Germans put a bracket on the "shooter"? (carrying delirium)

      In the "bracket" of the G36 sights are located, and one goes under the bracket, moreover, it covers the reloading handle. hi
      1. +1
        7 August 2019 10: 48
        Quote: Rededi
        Quote: tarakan
        Maybe not in the subject, but why the heck did the Germans put a bracket on the "shooter"? (carrying delirium)

        In the "bracket" of the G36 sights are located, and one goes under the bracket, moreover, it covers the reloading handle. hi

    3. +2
      6 August 2019 21: 34
      Plastic rifle, in addition to raising the sight base (an outdated solution), the "bracket" increases the mechanical strength of the plastic box and limits access to the reloading handle.

      Today, usually the entire top surface is a picatinny rail, and mechanical folding sights have 1/3 of the overlapping joint with the collimator.
      That is, when mechanical sights are raised, they are visible through (broken or dead battery) the collimator in the lower third. You can shoot right away. This is considered a better solution than full overlap when the collimator point coincides with the sighting line of the mechanical diopter.

      I’m not sure that any of the words used above is not obscene in VO.
      1. +1
        7 August 2019 01: 11
        The reload handle by the way on the G36 is interesting and conveniently made, jerked-let-go-cleaned. And nothing flickers in the face. Very comfortable, G36.
  3. +2
    6 August 2019 18: 32
    Yes alas. Overlooked. It will be necessary to ask the editor to fix it.
    1. 0
      11 August 2019 14: 45
      Please draw your attention to another fact.
      "On June 10, 2015, the Procurement Directorate of the German Armed Forces reported filing a lawsuit against NK, due to complaints about claims for reliability and lack of accuracy (several cases in Afghanistan since 2012). For its part, Heckler & Koch, in early July 2015 filed a counterclaim in the court of Gu Koblenze, stating that “the alleged material defects do not exist.” The claim was granted in favor of NK in September 2016.
      In the process of determining the truth, many trials, tests were carried out, and the exact situation in Afghanistan was established when the facts of the "defectiveness" of the G-36 were recorded.
      In the course of the proceedings, one of the former defense commissioners in the Bundestag, Helmunt Royal, and the expert of mines. defense from the Green Party Winfried Nachtway pointed out that: ".. according to the results of a survey of 200 soldiers who took part in the DB in Afghanistan and used the G-36 in conditions similar to those that were in the (did not feel, did not pay attention ...) to the degradation of the G36 accuracy .... ". Below are links. Please note that the spiegel magazine raised the buchu. He, in the last link, wrote that NK won the trial. Given the realities of Germany, journalists and magazines like the spiel can initiate serious proceedings to violate the law or the rule of law. There is no need to say and write that Spiegel is not a "source".
      http://www.fnp.de/nachrichten/politik/Heckler-Koch-zieht-im-Streit-um-G36-vor-Gericht;art46559,1479095
      http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/g36-bundesregierung-verliert-prozess-gegen-heckler-koch-a-1110631.html

      As far as I understand, many of the charges were subjective and more dependent on the quality of the fighters than on the quality of the weapons. I do not claim that all charges are lies, but judge for yourself.
      The weapon is one side to the sun for several hours. Thereafter:
      1. The "cold stem syndrome" was more common. This is when the point of impact of the first shot, from a cold weapon, deviates more from all subsequent ones. In this case, the soldiers complained that they could NOT ALWAYS hit from 300 meters. first shot in the head or upper torso. How much this "not always" is not indicated.
      2. The fact of the inaccuracy of the weapon began to manifest itself after several hundred shots. At the same time, at a distance of 300 meters, the probability of hitting was reduced. "dropping" means that 4 shots are already required for at least one to hit a person at a 300-meter distance. This made the soldiers nervous and anxious. pas https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-84631730.html
      1. After shooting 90 rounds at a fast pace, at a distance of 100 meters, the diameter of the circle of dispersion in a burst increased from 50 to 60 cm (some of them go 10 cm up). That also plunged the fighters into despondency and that "everything was lost."

      Their soldiers begin to be unsure of their weapons, when after several hundred shots and more than an hour of battle, they can get into the spirit from the fourth time to 300 meters. Maybe I don’t understand something, but if you want to leave the position, would such an argument really work? May not leave, maybe they would like to request a tip or help. There is a lot of incomprehensible because of lies.

      Then they found the left supplier and "the wrong cartridges", the old 5,56x45 disease in weapons with minimal tolerances. We found sho plastic of the wrong system .... then we found corruption in everything related to the Zh-36, from adoption to use. In principle, nothing new was found.

      A spoon was found, but the sediment remained.
  4. -4
    6 August 2019 18: 45
    Daragoy aftyr, you made my day: "Swedish Ak-4 is another variant of G3" laughing
    1. +2
      6 August 2019 19: 01
      I am touched by mass care!
    2. +2
      6 August 2019 23: 07
      Quote: Operator
      Daragoy aftyr, you made my day: "Swedish Ak-4 is another version of G3" laughing

      +100500, H&K G11 has a generally "lunar" design
  5. +5
    6 August 2019 19: 14
    A few clarifications.
    It all started with the fact that in 1945, French troops destroyed the Mauser arms factory.
    French troops did not destroy the Mauser plant. Those in 1945 simply did not exist. The plant operated until August 1946. And only in August, the French, who "raged" in their zone of occupation, believing that the measures envisaged by the Allies for the demilitarization of Germany were too lenient, dismantled the plant and transported the equipment to Mulhouse. So Edmund Heckler, Theodor Koch and Alex Seidel did not save anything from under the rubble, and they got only skilled workers from Mauser-Werke.
    1. +3
      6 August 2019 19: 39
      Only in 1956, when the Bundeswehr needed a new weapon, the company's engineers offered the army men the G3 rifle. In 1959, she entered service and this is how the military career of H&K began.
      The military career of H & K AG began earlier, in 1952, when the company proposed to such a "gray" organization as Amt Blank to organize the production of Sturmgewehrs 44, MG 42 and P 38, which it successfully carried out.
      1. +5
        6 August 2019 19: 55

        Automatkarbin 4 is the Swedish version of the G3A3.
        1. +2
          6 August 2019 20: 13
          The bulky and heavy G3 didn’t do much for this, and of course, fire with bursts of such a powerful cartridge from it proved to be ineffective.
          H & K AG specialists understood this perfectly, therefore they developed the little-known G41.5,56x45 mm.

          Above is HK - G11, below is HK G41.
          The rifle went into series in 1981, was produced in Germany until 1989, in Italy, by Luigi Franchi under a license under the name LF G41 until 1996.
      2. +4
        6 August 2019 23: 28
        Viktor Nikolaevich, isn't the Spanish Setme the brainchild of the same guys? And it was put into service, as they say, "long before and regardless of", and the G3 is in fact almost a copy of this rifle.
        Regards M.Kot. hi
        1. 0
          6 August 2019 23: 39
          I didn’t understand you a little, who do you mean by the same guys.
          1. +1
            7 August 2019 00: 30
            Those who subsequently founded the company Hekler-i-Koch.
            1. 0
              7 August 2019 00: 43
              Heckler and Koch and CETME were created by completely different people. HK is a private company, CETME is a state-owned company.
              1. +2
                7 August 2019 00: 51
                Were the designers of both rifles different people? Vic, in my opinion you are mistaken. As far as I know, these guys from the former Mauser first settled in Spain, where they created Setme on the basis of the Mauser Geret product (I can not vouch for the accuracy of the spelling, it seems to mean "product" in translation). Then they also created the Heckler-i-Koch company in Germany and released the G-3 into circulation. And what's the difference, private or public company, the rifles are almost the same.
                1. 0
                  7 August 2019 01: 28
                  I'm not wrong. Sturmgewehrs 45 really served as the basis for the creation of the CETME Modell B and the former designers from Mauser worked on it and was led by Forgrimler.
                  And H & K AG was founded by former Mauser employees. But these are different people.
                  CETME was established in 1948. In 1949, the development of a rifle began.
                  H & K AG was founded in 1949. The license for the production of CETME was purchased with certain difficulties by the German government in 1957 and transferred to H & K AG.
                  1. +1
                    7 August 2019 01: 36
                    So I was mistaken, well, it happens. However, something here does not fit for me. I rummage in the "archives", though everything is on paper, but if I dig up a thread, I'll beckon you in PM.
  6. +4
    6 August 2019 21: 33
    Although the French army is strictly forbidden to take pictures
    Military personnel - by itself. In France, taking pictures is not easy at all. It is impossible to publish photos of objects protected by copyright without permission, which include architectural works, since the author’s death 70 years have passed. Those. the glass pyramid in the courtyard of the Louvre can be removed, but permission is required to publish the photo.
    You can take pictures of the Eiffel Tower, publish daytime photos too, but nightly photos are subject to authorization and payment of the rights of the Eiffel Tower Management Company (SETE). So be careful, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    1. +2
      7 August 2019 23: 21
      "In France, photography is not all that simple" ////
      -----
      In France, EVERYTHING is not so simple. I once, young still, traveled
      with a backpack in Europe. I'm used to that in England, if tired, lay down on any lawn -
      and sleep, rugzak under your head, no one bothers.
      In Paris, he lay down so ... the cops kicked the legs. Passport ... almost dragged into jail. stop
  7. +1
    7 August 2019 06: 33
    Quote: Undecim
    It is impossible to publish photos of objects protected by copyright without permission, which include architectural works, from the moment of the author’s death 70 years have not passed. Those. the glass pyramid in the courtyard of the Louvre can be removed, but permission is required to publish the photo.
    You can take pictures of the Eiffel Tower, publish daytime photos too, but nightly photos are subject to authorization and payment of the rights of the Eiffel Tower Management Company (SETE). So be careful, Vyacheslav Olegovich.

    Thank you, dear Nikolai Nikolaevi! But all this was still explained to us by our guide on the bus. And just at night I did not photograph her. I slept under their fireworks on 14 July with the sleep of the righteous, so tired.
    1. +2
      7 August 2019 23: 51
      And just at night I did not photograph her.
      And I did not know these subtleties, I photographed. This time without cheating - my shot.

      May. 2008 year.
  8. -3
    7 August 2019 09: 19
    And again a couple of well-known facts. Slagged from a foreign press. Diluted by a pair of long-standing debunked myths. On a topic which does not understand the word at all. Accordingly - Great neglect of the details. Even the photos are confused. Again a red thread - what
    The caliber is gorgeous! I was able to persuade the fighter to violate the instructions given to him ... used a honey trap from his own granddaughter ... Isn’t it disgusting himself?
  9. +1
    7 August 2019 09: 44
    Uh, honey! The main thing here is that you read it and will read, set clicks, of course, and thereby increase the investment attractiveness of the site. Here are your articles, alas, I probably will not have to read. And yes - I was able to persuade the fighter to violate ... and much more I can do the same. It all depends on the goal. If the goal is noble, any action is justified. And what could be more noble than the education of the masses?
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  12. 0
    7 August 2019 10: 45

    - Video tutorial for G 36.
  13. +1
    7 August 2019 11: 07
    France forced adopt small arms of foreign design and production as managed completely ditch your own KB development and production plant.
    As there are evil tongues, the reason was the complete absence of orders for "Cleron" (FAMAS) from foreign customers.
  14. +2
    7 August 2019 14: 06
    The rifle was adopted and German units began to use it in Afghanistan. And only then it became clear that with prolonged shooting the rifle overheats so that it is no longer possible to use it. Even if its heating was not too large, its accuracy still drops dramatically, cleaning its piston group is difficult, and the trigger is simply impossible.

    In the discussion of the G36, bmpd had an excellent photograph of the barrel mount for this rifle - which caused all the problems.

    No, this is not Photoshop - the Germans really planted the barrel right in the plastic of the receiver. Well, who could guess that when shooting automatically, the barrel heats up and the plastic begins to soften. laughing
    By the way, in the same discussion they noted that only the army G36 has such a perversion. And what is the G36 model with normal barrel mount
    Taki went nuts. In the basic army version. And in civilian - quite kosher metal fittings.

    And the funny thing is that, according to the court decision, it is not HuK that is guilty of all this, but the Bundeswehr, which drew up the technical specifications for the rifle (which it did comply with) and continued to order "plastic" G36s even after they received massive complaints - even despite the fact that HuK offered normal rifles instead of "plastic".
    Despite all this, the Bundeswehr continued to accept weapons manufactured by Heckler & Koch, although the Arms Directorate insisted on revising the contract specifications in light of the problems that had emerged. The judge ruled that “contracts continued to be concluded in the same manner as in the past”. That, a priori, excludes any claims for damages, despite the fact that Heckler & Koch itself has proposed several options for a significant modernization of weapons.

    On September 2, 2016, the Koblenz court issued its verdict against the arms manufacturer, according to which the Bundeswehr can only blame itself. According to the judges, Heckler & Koch clearly fulfilled the terms of the terms of reference prepared by the German Ministry of Defense. Thus, there can be no claims against the manufacturer. That is, the Bundeswehr Arms Directorate should have formulated its demands more precisely.
    © bmpd
  15. 0
    11 August 2019 13: 29
    “But this photo is quite funny. Although it is strictly forbidden to photograph the French army and all attempts to persuade them are stopped in the bud, I still managed to persuade this to be photographed with my granddaughter. Well ... he could not refuse such a blonde, but As a result, we have before us a photo of a soldier in full outfit for performing security missions in an urban environment .... "
    Judging by the article, the soldier in the photo violated the order, for which he should be punished. Question to the author - did this warrior, or his immediate superior, give the go-ahead for publishing photos in the public domain? If not, then maybe you should at least retouch his face. What readers need on their faces is not visible, and a fighter can pay for succumbing to the spell of a beautiful girl.

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