Provocations at protest actions in Russia

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On August 3 the next so-called opposition rally is scheduled. The project curators are already sharing posts about the “need to support” by sending their messages on social networks and instant messengers.





An important detail of these actions can be considered that the overwhelming majority of their participants cannot unequivocally express themselves, for what specific changes in the country they advocate.

Ruslan Ostashko is trying to figure out his clip in the situation.

According to him, provocations, and especially bloody ones, are always beneficial to those who are the ideological inspirers of the rallies. The knives, hammers and gas masks withdrawn from individual participants of the last rally (27 July) show that there will always be a provocateur in the crowd who will try to turn the declared as a peaceful action into a massacre with law enforcement officers.

On the presented frames one can see that the organizers of the meetings are going to openly provocative methods, using even wheelchair users for their own purposes. What for? And then, so that literally in a few minutes the disabled person could be pushed into the thick of things, and the Western press and television channels would have the opportunity to capture “the injustice in his attitude by the police”. At the same time, the ideological inspirers of the rallies do not give a damn about the fact that people pushing them to illegal actions can receive prison sentences.



Earlier, US President Donald Trump said that "he will deal with Navalny’s health, which has worsened after his arrest."
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    1. -27
      1 August 2019 08: 30
      Military Review, is that all you have been able to write on this subject since Saturday, 27 July? No words, crushed the site ..
      1. +30
        1 August 2019 08: 48
        Quote: Stav
        Military Review, is that all you have been able to write on this subject since Saturday, 27 July? No words, crushed the site ..

        I was always wondering what will happen when the opponents of bulk and other liberds also go out and begin to act like him, i.e. outside the law?
        1. -19
          1 August 2019 09: 02
          Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified
          1. +45
            1 August 2019 09: 04
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified

            So already. And we will be horrified when all this shushara from the streets to the Duma and the Kremlin sits down.
            1. +17
              1 August 2019 14: 33
              Quote: Bulls.
              And we will be horrified when all this shushara from the streets to the Duma and the Kremlin sits down.

              but are there really the best? Especially in the Duma
              1. +2
                1 August 2019 21: 13
                Yeah. There are spot players .. laughing
            2. +5
              1 August 2019 18: 55
              Can you think now the statists are sitting in the Kremlin?
              1. +4
                2 August 2019 22: 10
                Maybe not. But at least not outspoken admirers of the West. Alas, reality requires choosing the lesser of two evils.
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          3. +17
            1 August 2019 09: 51
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around.

            Yes, they looked at Sumeria for 5 years. We don’t need this
            1. +9
              1 August 2019 12: 43
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Quote: Stav
              Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around.

              Yes, they looked at Sumeria for 5 years. We don’t need this

              And we will not have this ... I will tell in 2 words how it took place in Yekaterinburg during the protests regarding the PLACE OF CONSTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE (residents are not against the temple, but only in another place): the first couple of days among the protesters there were provocateurs who threw stones at the police , bottles, firecrackers, but they were quickly handed over to the riot police by the demonstrators themselves. A couple of days later, when such persons ended (if they themselves were transferred, if their leadership decided to change their tactics), the firecrackers began to explode behind the fence (moreover, they were not thrown from the crowd), in a second the cordon parted, 4-6 riot policemen ran out and grabbed the first one they came across, lifted by the arms and legs and dragged over the cordon, thus detained. Sometimes it was funny when the "catchers" could not catch anyone and they left empty-handed ... Watch the video, it is full on the Internet and draw your own conclusions ...
              1. -9
                1 August 2019 12: 45
                Quote: parma
                And we will not have this ..

                I meant what is happening in / in Ukraine
                1. +11
                  1 August 2019 13: 21
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: parma
                  And we will not have this ..

                  I meant what is happening in / in Ukraine

                  I understand what you mean. I’m talking about that - it won’t ... The authorities are not the same, our government will not try to negotiate with the protesters, disperse the Duma, stutter about re-elections or any other concessions, but simply drown the square in blood. One person in / in Ukraine didn’t have the courage, there was a lot of conscience, now lives in Russia, recently he moved from Rostov ..
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2019 13: 32
                    Quote: parma
                    or any other concessions

                    Concessions to whom?
                    but just drown the area in the blood.

                    And where was that?
                    In the video below, watch how such Sabbaths are dispersed in Europe.
                    . One person in / in Ukraine didn’t have enough courage, there was a lot of conscience toli,

                    And it turned out what happened.
                    The collapse of the country and the civil war.
                    External management from the Phasington regional committee
                    Do you want this for Russia?
                    1. +3
                      1 August 2019 13: 59
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Concessions to whom?

                      Protesters ... For example, Yekaterinburg and "the temple near the drama" - no one went to the meeting, because in the upcoming vote (which will take place in just a couple of places, because there is almost no information about those "park near the drama") "park near the drama" struck out ...
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      And where was that?

                      In Novocherkassk in 1962, in Moscow in 1993, as an option .. We have already adapted laws to this matter - as they say, more than 5 are not to be collected, otherwise the rally is inconsistent (they agree as they want) .. And yes, if in 1993 the demonstrators had a chance to support the security forces (the explosives did not obey Yeltsin), now with our nat. there is no chance for the guard, the president commands and has the right to remove from the post a commander of any level + the well-known duelist leads them all ...
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      And it turned out what happened. The collapse of the country and the civil war.

                      And you read how in many countries there is a peaceful shift of the current government ... And yes, from yesterday I already forgot that you do not need such arguments ... You believe the cartoons from TV, and there it is only about Ukraine ...
                      1. +4
                        1 August 2019 14: 12
                        Quote: parma
                        The protesters ...

                        They were given a place to protest. They did not go there. Thus, they have already broken the law
                        In Novocherkassk in 1962, in Moscow in 1993 as an option ..

                        Why didn't you mention Bloody Sunday? It was also in Russia.
                        But 1962 is not from that opera
                        And you read how in many countries there is a peaceful shift of the current government ...

                        I saw how it was on the Maidan.
                        There, too, peacefully displaced.?
                        that you don’t need such arguments ..

                        Are these arguments?
                        . Do you believe cartoons from TV

                        I believe in common sense, but not comfrey, for whom footcloths are more important than rockets
                        and there is only about Ukraine ...

                        There is a warning that can happen to the country if you give slack and give way to the fifth column
                        1. -2
                          1 August 2019 14: 56
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Why didn't you mention Bloody Sunday? It was also in Russia, but 1962 is not from that opera

                          I remembered about 1962 and 1993 because those who were then in power and now have one school - the party school of the USSR, have the same methods ... Novocherkassk just from this opera - people came out to demand an improvement in life, but they got what they got ... As by the way, and in 1993 ... But let’s leave it, we won’t convince each other ...
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          I saw how it was on the Maidan. There, too, peacefully displaced.?

                          You apparently were personally there ....
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          I believe in common sense, but not comfrey, for whom footcloths are more important than rockets

                          I honestly do not care what kind of equipment / weapons / missiles our army will use and what it will be called .. It is important for me that it is and performs well its functions .. For example, that missiles "mace", that GSH-01, that radar Mi- 28 / Ka-52, that of our fleet, what else is there a lot more I can say the following - this military property either does not fulfill its functions at all or lags far behind the potential enemy, but at the same time demonstration samples and prototypes are called "unparalleled in the world "(that a lie is already in semantic meaning, maybe an object (technical solution) of the same purpose, close in terms of the totality of essential features. So even the FT-17 model of the WWII era is an analogue of armata, at a different technical level but an analogue), although these are samples of their functions cannot perform at this, because this is a PROTOTYPE!
                          It’s the same with the economy and with domestic politics and in general, almost with all spheres of life ... We have a lot of good things, I don’t argue, and therefore we live better than in Africa and many Asian countries, for example, but there are more words than deeds and when the authorities poke this (and by the way it is legitimate, maybe, according to the constitution, the power is the servant of the people, and not vice versa, and is responsible to us for their actions) they answer us like 1962 or 1993 or like a swamp ...
                        2. +2
                          1 August 2019 15: 17
                          Quote: parma
                          You apparently were personally there ....

                          I see the result.
                          I see what the State Department’s intervention led to
                          We have a lot of good things, I don’t argue, and therefore we live better than in Africa and many Asian countries, for example, but there are more words than deeds, and when they poke power on it (and by the way, it’s legitimate, according to the constitution, power is a servant of the people, and not vice versa and is responsible to us for his actions)

                          I absolutely agree.
                          And I'm not thrilled with the authorities. And I don’t like everything.
                          But I do not want a repeat of the Maidan. But we are being pushed to this. When they start to spit on the law, and on both sides, it will not lead to anything good. And now we are being pushed to riots. And this is the path to the Maidan. And this is a direct road to civil war.
                          Do you like what's going on with your neighbors? You think it will be better. Much worse.
                          This is the collapse of Russia that our "partners" dream of. So why go along with them?
                        3. -1
                          1 August 2019 15: 39
                          Well, you don’t like much and what do you offer?
                          We see the elections by (well, in order to be elected and change everything ourselves for the better).
                          What do you offer then?
                          If you reasonably criticize this, then you have your own proposal.
                          Only endure and beg the top to improve and give do not offer, this is an unconstructive method, life may not be enough
                        4. +6
                          1 August 2019 15: 58
                          And what exactly do you dislike? If you do not count in bucks and do not nod to other countries. Are you starving? Nowhere to live? Died of an incurable disease?
                          And then you need to change. What exactly is that? Communism we do not want. Capitalism too. Che we will change. If the robbery looted, I can and for. And then what are we going to do when we plunder and divide?
                        5. 0
                          1 August 2019 19: 10
                          All! And I have something to compare.
                          For a start, socialism, and then you can try communism ...
                        6. +4
                          1 August 2019 19: 36
                          Well, I'm for. A way to achieve?
                        7. -1
                          1 August 2019 19: 43
                          Consolidation and solidarity of people, loyalty to the chosen goals and ideas, which can not be exchanged for handouts of those who are now sitting on the cash flows of Russia.
                          First, to seek a shift of power and control by the people. And that means elections should be elections, not profanity. Party support regardless of the proximity of power, but based on performance. Well, something like this.
                        8. +5
                          1 August 2019 19: 53
                          I have a simpler option. Vote here on the site. For the nominee. Support him physically and financially. Good intentions and competence are easy to recognize here. Pull and slide up. I accept this option more. I do not like Putin. OK. We will organize a briefing with our candidate. I do not see problems
                        9. -1
                          1 August 2019 20: 33
                          Not a ride. Too clumsy.
                        10. -2
                          2 August 2019 17: 59
                          Communism and socialism are asked by those who do not know how to earn! Freebies want.
                        11. 0
                          2 August 2019 19: 58
                          Earn? You earn, as I understand it? Well, not everyone is as talented as you, what should they do? You can, of course, live by the laws of the jungle, but are you ready for this?
                        12. -3
                          2 August 2019 21: 02
                          And who is to blame for this ?! I am categorically against egalitarianism: should a miner who can die every hour have to pay a pension my grandmother spent his whole life sitting in a stall selling pies ?! There should be justice, but it was not in the councils.
                          Well, we can under Stalin, a dozen years. And that’s all.
                        13. +3
                          1 August 2019 16: 13
                          Quote: Revival
                          Well, you don’t like much and what do you offer?

                          Yes, to be honest, I really do not know.
                          I see several ways, but all are inappropriate.
                          I know only one thing for sure, if we are pushed into the Maidan, it will be a disaster for all of Russia.
                          Only endure and beg the top to improve and give do not offer, this is an unconstructive method, life may not be enough

                          Yes, and in my thoughts this was not.
                          Nobody voluntarily left the feeding trough.
                          But I know for sure that others are dreaming of breaking into this feeding trough. Young. Hungry. Which do not care about Russia.
                          Neighbors are the clearest example. What did they bring good? Almost finished the country.
                          So are ours. There will be nothing good from a violent change of power
                          One option, as I see it, is a dialogue with the opposition.
                          But the opposition must have a strong leader. Do we have it? I do not see.
                          Not that of a leader, of the opposition itself.
                          After all, in the end, he is not an oppositionist. A small grant-eater who knows how to powder youngsters with brains. Which, however, is not.
                          Communist Party? Outdated itself. And the leader is not there. Zyuganov is old and understood for a long time that the post of the President does not shine for him.
                          LDPR? Zhirinovsky is also already old and at one time did not bother to educate the receiver. And in this port, people were already disappointed.
                          I’m silent about other parties. There is no one close.
                          Vlt and it turns out that there is no leader. I don’t see who can become president in the next 2-3 years.
                          I forgot about Grudinin. But this is not serious at all.
                          And so it turns out that it turns out
                        14. 0
                          1 August 2019 16: 32
                          And why do you think Grudinin is not serious?
                          Just reading your post, it turns out that only one person in the country can be president?
                        15. +1
                          1 August 2019 17: 19
                          Quote: balunn
                          And why do you think Grudinin is not serious?

                          Any candidate should have a team of professionals. Does he have it?
                          There must be a program that I saw that disappointed me
                          Just reading your post, it turns out that only one person in the country can be president?

                          Apparently inattentively
                          I don’t see who can become president in the next 2-3 years.

                          Name someone who is even ready to become president
                        16. -1
                          1 August 2019 17: 31
                          I am far from a supporter of Navalny, but he stated that he was ready to lead the country. Is it another matter to trust him in a country? The same Grudinin for example. Well, I do not believe that in the largest country in the world there are no 5 - 10 people ready to lead the country?
                          There should be a change of power. The same deputies - 2 terms and are free. But what's the point that they sit in this thought all the time that it exists. The same Zhirinovsky with Zyuganov. What is the use of them?
                        17. +2
                          1 August 2019 17: 52
                          Quote: balunn
                          I am far from a supporter of Navalny, but he stated that he was ready to lead the country

                          Tears from the couch and the president?
                          A person should have minimal experience managing a large farm. Putin worked as prime minister, at least some experience.
                          Take at least an army. Will the squad leader be able to immediately command the regiment?
                        18. -5
                          1 August 2019 19: 13
                          Do not tell Putin about the experience better! Grudinin has more experience. Putin silovik-liberalist is an explosive mixture, which we see.
                        19. 0
                          1 August 2019 20: 51
                          Quote: Campanella
                          Grudinin has more experience

                          The experience of the collective farm chairman with the experience of the Prime Minister?
                          You still have the experience of a company commander and the experience of a battalion commander
                        20. +1
                          1 August 2019 20: 57
                          Medvedev is so experienced, well, so experienced.
                          Do not tell people, this post does not require experience, but decency and a systematic approach. And the dwarfs are simply not available.
                        21. +2
                          1 August 2019 21: 02
                          Quote: Campanella
                          Do not tell people, this post does not require experience, but decency and a systematic approach.

                          You laugh. Let it be, who does not know anything, does not have leadership experience, but is he decent and a direct path to him for president?
                        22. -1
                          2 August 2019 08: 49
                          the prime minister usually manages the economy .. and the guarantor guarantees the work of all branches .. for example, the president appoints judges, but many Comrade Putin went to the courts? generally no experience! but nothing - appoints and works, because there are advisers and those who check .. and the experience of being the president can only be the one who he was, and what?
                        23. +1
                          1 August 2019 19: 08
                          I'm damn ready too) and thousands and thousands more are ready) according to these criteria, do you think it's worth choosing candidates?)))
                        24. -2
                          1 August 2019 20: 48
                          Quote: carstorm 11
                          According to these criteria, do you think it's worth choosing candidates?)))

                          Have you been the prime minister?
                          Do you have any management experience?
                        25. +3
                          1 August 2019 19: 41
                          I am ready to lead the country soldier
                          I'm honest. This is from prosperity. I don’t know what to do
                        26. 0
                          2 August 2019 21: 13
                          So, such honest people come to power, they sit ... they don’t know what they are starting to do, what is the closest thing to feed and cherish your beloved. And then they are drawn in so that you won’t tear them away from the feeder!))))
                        27. +1
                          1 August 2019 19: 18
                          Yes, even Bulk or you will become president!
                          The state should have a mechanism putting in place not only a simple uncle Petya, but also a serious uncle Vova. And we have Uncle Vova sitting in the crown, but what didn’t ask him about business, all his servants are to blame!
                        28. 0
                          1 August 2019 19: 03
                          "Young. Hungry. Who doesn't give a damn about Russia."
                          That is, according to you, let the old snickering old people sit forever !?
                          And why did you get what they do not care about the country?
                          Well, if you argue so primitively, then it’s time for the old ones to get off the trough, let the young ones not be better, but at least their faces are not nasty and not old! so the young way !!
                        29. 0
                          1 August 2019 20: 56
                          Where did you read about "old snickering old people are always sitting !?"
                          Are you confused with the CPSU?
                          Well, if so to argue primitively then the old time to get off the trough

                          Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko themselves left?
                          so the young way !!

                          To whom? Name at least one. Something I did not see in the election of one young
                        30. -1
                          1 August 2019 21: 13
                          "Did Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko leave on their own?"
                          That is, you propose to make all the same mistakes that were in the USSR to finish as well !?
                          You know smart learn from the mistakes of others fools on their own, but you do not learn at all .....
                        31. +2
                          1 August 2019 21: 32
                          I suggest you answer the question.
                          Name at least one young person to whom "the road"
                          You know smart people learn from mistakes of others fools on their own, and you don’t learn at all

                          That you do not study.
                          Just know how to hang tags.
                          I’m talking about the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, you hanged me in a swoop that I’m for the idea that the GDP will always sit in the chair. Where did I say that ??
                          Here you are from those who are not on strangers, not on their own do not learn.
                        32. -4
                          1 August 2019 21: 43
                          "Name at least one young person to whom" the road "
                          I will not play these games with surnames, but the fact that we have old people 65 ++++ everywhere in leadership positions is a fact and young people will not be allowed because "he is a jerk, and I am a wise person!"
                          I now propose to ban is in a leadership position after 60! the law!
                        33. -2
                          2 August 2019 08: 51
                          and in the time of Brezhnev, etc. Do you think a number of people were standing on whom it could be changed and the whole country knew them? nothing .. somehow changed
                        34. +2
                          1 August 2019 19: 38
                          Lipchanin. You have a lot of enemies, I'll see. You too strongly salt someone bully
                        35. +1
                          1 August 2019 21: 13
                          Quote: igorbrsv
                          You have a lot of enemies, I'll see. You too strongly salt someone

                          Yes, I’m already used to it, that I won’t write, anyway minus laughing
                          I’ll congratulate anyone on Good morning laughing
                          And the most interesting thing is that everything is fine in the morning, and then a person 3-4 appears and without any explanation, without comment, miiiiinus laughing
                        36. +3
                          1 August 2019 21: 17
                          Quote: igorbrsv
                          You too strongly salt someone

                          See what salt I’ll pour.
                          Hello, minus players, are you minus me for these "peaceful protesters anizhedeti"?

                          Now count laughing
                        37. +2
                          1 August 2019 19: 53
                          It turns out everything is just your way! There are no leaders and that's it! So the government turns the Bosco to the leaders so that only tolerant oppositionists remain. Putin behaves like a mediocre boss who removes talented competitors. Take away Putin and worthy candidates will appear, do you really understand this? Is it really not clear that Medvedev is a mediocre prime minister?
                        38. 0
                          1 August 2019 20: 57
                          Quote: Campanella
                          Putin behaves like a mediocre boss who removes talented competitors.

                          Which of the "young talented" did he remove? Last name in the studio
                        39. -4
                          1 August 2019 20: 37
                          For starters, this should stop being a feeding trough. And this is the constitution and reformatting of the authorities. Though Zelensky write out ...)))
                        40. -3
                          2 August 2019 08: 44
                          protests do not always lead to Maidan and collapse; rather, they are very rare and regularly regularly held in many countries and they don’t think of falling apart .. the only place there is usually no collapse, no swollen authorities ..
                        41. +6
                          1 August 2019 16: 26
                          It seems to me that if these candidates were allowed before the election, then there would be no rallies. Well, they would vote for them 1-2-10%, so what?
                          And Russia is being ruined by bureaucrats and the like, who, hiding behind their patriotism, use Russia only as a source of funds to support their children, business, real estate, etc. in partner countries.
                        42. -1
                          1 August 2019 19: 03
                          Quite right, the power is hiding behind the bulk, its gangster essence. But it works for the time being.
                          Putin has finally broken his bottom by pension reform.
                          I also understand Lukashenko, he does not have the resources, but this one just sits on them and the people are still stripping.
                        43. 0
                          1 August 2019 19: 47
                          Your words, yes, to God in ears. We will still see what comes to power in 2024, otherwise maybe I’ll run ahead of you
                        44. 0
                          12 August 2019 11: 56
                          having no analogues in their characteristics means
                        45. +3
                          1 August 2019 17: 04
                          And you read how in many countries there is a peaceful shift of the current government ...
                          Why go so far for examples? Remember the departure of Yeltsin and what preceded this. Everything went quietly without fifth columns.
                        46. -1
                          1 August 2019 19: 05
                          Quiet because he could no longer pretend to be the president. He got the guarantor out of his armpits.
                          And Yeltsin is a big jerk!
                        47. +1
                          1 August 2019 20: 15
                          GDP did not want to leave on time, beautifully. The moment is lost. So much the worse for him.
                        48. -2
                          1 August 2019 20: 32
                          Although it looks like a decent person, it behaves like a one-day butterfly.
                      2. +3
                        1 August 2019 15: 44
                        Quote: parma
                        In Novocherkassk in 1962, in Moscow in 1993, as an option .. We have already adapted laws to this matter - as they say, more than 5 are not to be collected, otherwise the rally is inconsistent (they agree as they want) .. And yes, if in 1993 the demonstrators had a chance to support the security forces (the explosives did not obey Yeltsin), now with our nat. there is no chance for the guard, the president commands and has the right to remove from the post a commander of any level + the well-known duelist leads them all ...

                        Is it possible that in Novocherkassk in 1962 and in Moscow in 1993, too, the "irreplaceable Putin" is to blame? You urgently need to defend a thesis on history! The Nobel Prize is in your pocket. laughing laughing laughing
                        1. -3
                          1 August 2019 19: 07
                          Permanent Putin will be marked by his Cherkassk. Weather vane!
                        2. +1
                          2 August 2019 01: 30
                          Quote: Campanella
                          Permanent Putin will be marked by his Cherkassk. Weather vane!

                          You will not indulge in specifics?
                      3. +7
                        1 August 2019 15: 52
                        So they advocated for the temple or for the displacement of power. Already read tired. If for the temple, then the locals will understand without our participation. Figs knows what they need more. And if for a change of power, then at least show whom we will change, otherwise the party of the State Department is not held in high esteem by many
                      4. 0
                        1 August 2019 19: 59
                        Quote: parma
                        as in many countries there is a peaceful displacement

                        talking heads depicting power.
                      5. -2
                        1 August 2019 23: 47
                        People always need to believe in something. Someone believes in Carlson-on-the-roof, someone in "the good grandfather of Lenin," and some believe in reptilians. "There are no comrades for taste and color." (C). Faith is such a thing ... As it was with Vysotsky: "... Who believes in Mohammed, who in Jesus ..." (C).
                        For example, I do not believe anyone. There is nothing to talk about the current thieves' power, but in the so-called the opposition has neither a leader, nor a sane program, one projection and chatter. And the people who carry out their activities on overseas grants, I can not take otherwise as employees.
                        Gendarmes with batons are also not a way out, people do not like it when they beat him. It will only get worse. What then? Shoot at your people? It was already! Not played enough?

                        PS However, how does a certain category of individuals suck on a free feeder. They forget about everything ... request
                      6. +2
                        2 August 2019 13: 26
                        Peaceful change of power to whom? Have a candidate? Or as usual - will we figure it out?
                    2. +2
                      1 August 2019 14: 36
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      Concessions to whom?

                      The law

                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      In the video below, watch how such Sabbaths are dispersed in Europe.

                      But what, in Moscow, people smashed shops, beat windows? Do not consider it work, look from the beginning
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2019 14: 44
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        But what, in Moscow, people smashed shops, beat windows?

                        To begin with, they gathered in the wrong place and have already broken the law.
                        further on
                        Seized from individual participants of the last rally (July 27) knives, hammers and gas masks

                        Is this for a peaceful action?
                        In the frames presented, you can see that the organizers of the rallies are going to openly provocative receptions, even using wheelchair users for their own purposes.

                        After that, there is a reaction to the provocation.
                        Have you seen shots with injured police officers?
                        In your opinion it is impossible to beat the windows, but can the police officers?
                        1. -3
                          1 August 2019 15: 06
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          To begin with, they gathered in the wrong place and have already broken the law.

                          but nothing that was missing passers-by, not participants? Watch videos, there are a lot of them
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Knives, hammers and gas masks seized from individual participants in the last rally (July 27)

                          you believe? Me not. Golunov also found drugs, but ended in zilch
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Have you seen shots with injured police officers?

                          like grabbing for a visor? or injuring a guard with a garbage can?
                          You want to say. that this woman attacked the guardsman?
                        2. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 23
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          but nothing that was missing passers-by, not participants? Watch videos, there are a lot of them

                          But nothing, that’s exactly why they changed the place To substitute strangers?
                          When there is a rally in a certain place, then there are participants and are already working with them.
                          And it’s not written on the passer’s forehead, often he walks by
                          you believe? Me not. Golunov also found drugs, but ended in zilch

                          I believe. It was a cracked provocation. According to your logic, they could put drugs on everyone
                          You want to say. that this woman attacked the guardsman?

                          And this is already from the "onizhedeti" series
                        3. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 28
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          But nothing, that’s exactly why they changed the place

                          they came to the place indicated by them. They were waiting there

                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          And it’s not written on the passer’s forehead, often he walks by

                          so you need to crack it on the head and break your arm, just in case
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          I believe. It was a cracked provocation

                          at both sides
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          According to your logic, they could put drugs on everyone

                          and you look in the internet, how many of them are tossed and what is people's faith in the police?
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          And this is already from the "onizhedeti" series

                          Do not distort, this woman posed a threat to the guardsman personally?
                        4. +5
                          1 August 2019 16: 08
                          . nothing that passers-by lacked, not participants? Watch videos, there are a lot of them

                          And that the participants boldly ran out and directly attacked the crowd of cops? They threw from behind the backs of civilians. Then they dumped. Everything has been worked out for a long time
                        5. -2
                          1 August 2019 16: 23
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          they came to the place indicated by them. They were waiting there

                          Where did they come and who was waiting for them there?
                          so you need to crack it on the head and break your arm, just in case

                          Did everyone break their hands?
                          at both sides

                          Why did the authorities need this?
                          Well, the youngsters screamed and dispersed.
                          Do all of our meetings end like this?
                          and you look in the internet, how many of them are tossed and what is people's faith in the police?

                          Please do not confuse soft with round.
                          Do not distort, this woman posed a threat to the guardsman personally?

                          And in the morning the guardsman had nothing to do, so he guzdanul her boredom in the face?
                          Do you believe in this nonsense?
                        6. +2
                          1 August 2019 17: 44
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          so you need to crack it on the head and break your arm, just in case

                          And then douse it in blood and release it directly to the waiting journalists. You seem to be a smart person, but do you really think that you "beat, injured" and released what would you do with a selfie and give an interview?
                        7. -1
                          1 August 2019 17: 55
                          Quote: Sunstorm
                          And then douse it in blood and release it directly to the waiting journalists. You seem to be a smart person, but do you really think that you "beat, injured" and released what would you do with a selfie and give an interview?

                          Tracing paper from the Maidan. There’s some kind of gavril, the future deputy was glad to run naked and doused himself with bezin
                        8. +2
                          1 August 2019 18: 15
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Tracing paper from the Maidan.

                          Well, if we draw analogies. then be honest to the end! Maidan faded before the beating of youth in the square. After that, the Maidan became the Maidan. This served as a catalyst for everything else. Look for a chronology if you do not believe. no one has canceled the causal relationship.
                        9. +2
                          1 August 2019 18: 22
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          Well, if we draw analogies. then be honest to the end!

                          He’s not talking about what you are talking about.
                          Quote: Sunstorm
                          And then douse it in blood and release it directly to the waiting journalists. You seem to be a smart person, but do you really think that you "beat, injured" and released what would you do with a selfie and give an interview?

                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Tracing paper from the Maidan. There’s some kind of gavril, the future deputy was glad to run naked and doused himself with bezin
                        10. +3
                          2 August 2019 11: 22
                          are you talking about the beast beating divid ??? so there, of those who turned to the hospital, the youngest thirty with a ponytail was. another question is how this event was covered by the journalist from the big-name telecasting and others like them
                        11. +4
                          1 August 2019 15: 47
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          You want to say. that this woman attacked the guardsman?

                          We want to say that the guardsmen tried to persuade this woman to go to the ambulance for half an hour, but she “heroically” refused.
                        12. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 50
                          Quote: Rededi
                          We want to say that the guardsmen tried to persuade this woman to go to the ambulance for half an hour, but she “heroically” refused.

                          well then bring her words that she and how she answered them. First on the head with a club. and then, we will help you.
                        13. 0
                          1 August 2019 15: 55
                          What did she want? Flowers and Kamchatka crab with sturgeon? I came to an unauthorized rally, broke the law, got it on the head. Everything is fair. In 1905, I would have received a bullet. But the liberalists prefer not to recall this)) The inconvenient truth about the tsar-priest.
                        14. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 56
                          Quote: KuPDblK
                          In 1905, I would have received a bullet. But the liberalists prefer not to recall this)) The inconvenient truth about the tsar-priest.

                          Well then, you are our historian. chronology of further events in the Russian Empire
                        15. -3
                          1 August 2019 16: 00
                          I will gladly carry out an educational program for you. After these events, it was not the supporters of Navalny who came to power)) But the people are stronger. Men without boobs.
                        16. -1
                          1 August 2019 16: 05
                          Quote: KuPDblK
                          And people are stronger. Men without boobs.

                          that's for sure! So they work, their hands sweat and calluses covered with oars
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                        18. 0
                          1 August 2019 17: 24
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          So they work, their hands sweat and calluses covered with oars

                          Well yes. In the KGB all the time lumberjacks served.
                          One "combine" came and the USSR was gone
                        19. +2
                          2 August 2019 01: 20
                          "In the 90s, Russia had money for pensioners" - Excuse me from which parallel universe did you get out? Pensions were not paid for several months and this was not one year.
                        20. +1
                          1 August 2019 17: 00
                          Well, to be precise, first such (February) ... and then others
                        21. 0
                          1 August 2019 16: 56
                          An example from 1905 and the king you certainly still have that)).
                          the result in history is described
                          Do you have a comparison?
                        22. 0
                          1 August 2019 20: 02
                          Quote: KuPDblK
                          In 1905, I would have received a bullet. But the liberalists prefer not to recall this)) The inconvenient truth about the tsar-priest.

                          Well, under the tsar, they also did not always shoot, and the liberals also do not like him.
                        23. +2
                          1 August 2019 16: 42
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          well then bring her words,

                          "I'm not going anywhere with you." Something like this. I wonder what she expected from participating in the riots, coupons for enhanced food, or a trip to Capri?
                        24. +3
                          1 August 2019 15: 50
                          Here is a taaken tear rolled! Poor passers-by. They seized the unfortunate. Poor protesters! It's so difficult for them to work out the ration "at the call of the heart"! If you don't like something - get the fuck out of "rashka", as you call it! Liberators-idlers. Not a single sane person will follow the "bulk". For the "Putin", however, too. All this Caudlea, "appazitians" and "loyal putintsy" feeds from one trough by and large. It is necessary to work, to deal with business, and not to hang around at meetings and watch "straight lines"!
                        25. -4
                          1 August 2019 15: 51
                          Quote: KuPDblK
                          Poor protesters! It's so difficult for them to work out the ration "at the call of the heart"! If you don't like something - get the fuck out of "rashka", as you call it! Liberators-idlers. Not a single sane person will follow the "bulk". For the "Putin's", however, too. All this Caudlea, "appazitians" and "loyal putintsy" feeds from one trough by and large. It is necessary to work, to deal with business, and not to hang around at meetings and watch "straight lines"!

                          go to the doctor at your leisure love
                        26. +4
                          1 August 2019 15: 52
                          Recommend yours.
                        27. -7
                          1 August 2019 15: 53
                          Quote: KuPDblK
                          Recommend yours.

                          open Yandex and go .....
                        28. +3
                          1 August 2019 15: 58
                          Something Yandex gives out some nonsense to the request "Dr. Sylvester's recommendation". Is it difficult for you? I would also like to talk to your doctor.
                        29. +10
                          1 August 2019 17: 22
                          There is video on the network.This woman She told about herself that she was a deputy of the municipal district, at the beginning of the action. There is a video that is above the ear, a wound or something, blood .... It seems like a stone ..... Riot policemen repeatedly offered to call an ambulance or seek medical help ...... Refused repeatedly. The impression of her shock. I didn’t see her friends want to help her somehow
                        30. +2
                          2 August 2019 15: 06
                          Let me intervene.
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          You want to say. that this woman attacked the guardsman?

                          This woman is a municipal deputy of the Khamovniki district, Alexander Porushin. On the head, she got for the company, being in the crowd.
                          And then look at this provocateur.
                          https://youtu.be/unT0msISUL0?t=696
                        31. +3
                          1 August 2019 17: 53
                          To begin with, they gathered in the wrong place and have already broken the law.
                          I don’t know if this form can express their dissatisfaction, or show their significance, but officials almost always appoint the wrong place the opposition is asking for, no matter which opposition. Often forced to change the date. And often rallies are forbidden.
                          The question is, why aggravate?
                          People should be allowed to let off steam.
                      2. -2
                        1 August 2019 16: 20
                        a constitution wholly and completely retired from the American by your liberal friends is not a law.
                  2. -2
                    1 August 2019 17: 37
                    Quote: parma
                    The government is not that, our government will not try to negotiate with the protesters, disperse the Duma, stutter about re-elections or any other concessions, but simply drown the area in blood.
                    Would you like to discuss the nature of power with Napoleon? As far as I remember, he offered cannons loaded with buckshot as the best means of fighting the demonstrators (although yes, this is Civilized France, where do we get to them? .. although stop what is there with the "yellow vests"? What about the Irish? About the USA where a black man can just when laying .. because he is black) Power differs from anarchy in that it protects itself as an inseparable part of order in society.
                    And you know you're wrong, our government is just trying to negotiate, some just pretend that a banana is in your ears, glasses in front of your eyes and ... deaf-blind. Trying, not without success in my opinion.
                  3. -1
                    1 August 2019 18: 59
                    We will be much worse. If the people rise, the blood will not help, and the Zolotovists are not robots.
              2. 0
                3 August 2019 18: 05
                You should not think so. There is a fixation group and all who somehow lit up will be installed. But then it all depends on their desire to knock.
          4. +17
            1 August 2019 09: 52
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified

            Yes, my relatives from Ukraine periodically inform me. Really awful!
          5. +6
            1 August 2019 10: 03
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified

            More terrible than it was in 90's. And the fact that these freaks were met, as befits in Europe and the USA, so they themselves wanted it. Now let them rejoice. And then they fussed with them, and they provoked that they were being mistreated. Now, various fools and paid ones, will think a hundred times, it's worth it.
          6. +8
            1 August 2019 10: 14
            They removed the film back in the early 90s ...
            The second time is not a ride.
          7. +6
            1 August 2019 11: 24
            Horrified by the softness of power. The organizers of these covens have been walking outside for five years now.
          8. +2
            1 August 2019 12: 12
            Around that nothing happens - and begins to happen when a herd of digenirates starts buchu.
            1. +1
              1 August 2019 16: 04
              Around nothing happened.
              Then they accepted the pension reform and began.
              Tell me who the herd of degenerates is according to your logic?
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 18: 50
                Be silent. Expected!
              2. 0
                2 August 2019 01: 25
                Those who climbed onto the square: threw stones at the windows, insulted the police, attacked the police, blocked roads, and much more - but against the pension reform, it wasn’t really visible what they were going out.
          9. +10
            1 August 2019 14: 29
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around.
            When you take off, you will see that when Putin changes to any other: Navalny, Sobchak, etc. nothing will change dramatically. In our country, oligarchic capitalism, and any leadership will serve large capital. All these nonsense that we change and life will change, these are all fairy tales for little ones. Power must change, but only in a legitimate way. In general, from rearrangement of bast shoes, the legs do not change.
            1. +2
              1 August 2019 16: 12
              Yes, no one can even explain what he is fighting for, whom he wants to see in power. Like all, but we'll see. I also do not for figs.
              1. +5
                1 August 2019 17: 16
                Quote: igorbrsv
                Yes, no one can even explain what is fighting for
                Namely, young people want to move, to feel their significance, it seems like they have influenced something, etc. He himself went a couple of times in his youth, it's kind of a party, only after the lapse of time you understand that smart people just use youth.
          10. +2
            1 August 2019 14: 53
            what's going on around

            Nemtsov Plaza is already there, Trump is planning another renaming of the Navalny Straight type
          11. 0
            2 August 2019 13: 29
            Quote: Stav
            Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified

            Oh horror, while reading komenty, milk ran away !!!!!
        2. +12
          1 August 2019 09: 05
          Quote: Bulls.
          I have been always interested in

          First there will be something like "And we have something for what", well, then a hurdy-gurdy about "bloody rezhIM"
          1. +7
            1 August 2019 10: 11
            Quote: Less
            Quote: Bulls.
            I have been always interested in

            First there will be something like "And we have something for what", well, then a hurdy-gurdy about "bloody rezhIM"

            They do not need elections, nor power. They should "expose" as you rightly noted, "bloody cut" is necessary!
            You need to act like a "dad", straight in the face!
            1. +4
              1 August 2019 11: 02
              Quote: major147
              You need to act like a "dad", straight in the face!

              They talked about such a case.
              About 15 years ago, Khakamada and Nemtsov arrived in Minsk to stir up water.
              They were met right at the airport by people in black suits, put in a car and taken to the forest. There they gave shovels and ordered to dig a hole. After they dug it, they were not allowed to wash and change their underwear, they were taken back to the airport, put on a special plane and sent back to Russia. I haven’t heard that after that our "opposition" would visit Minsk
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 11: 08
                Quote: Lipchanin
                I haven’t heard that after that our "opposition" would visit Minsk

                Here is Putin "liberal" (abusively)!
                1. 0
                  1 August 2019 11: 59
                  Quote: major147
                  Here is Putin "liberal" (abusively)!

                  Another one. Everyone (abusive, abusive) wink
              2. +3
                1 August 2019 12: 07
                So you have to act illegally?
                1. 0
                  1 August 2019 12: 19
                  Quote: Revival
                  So you have to act illegally?

                  That is, we must not become like Maidan followers
                  1. +5
                    1 August 2019 13: 13
                    As I understand it, you cannot directly answer a single question?
                    1. -6
                      1 August 2019 13: 33
                      Quote: Revival
                      As I understand it, you cannot directly answer a single question?

                      Which I didn’t answer?
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2019 15: 51
                        In a positive light, you gave an example about the actions of people in civilian clothes "about taking people into the forest and shoveling, trenches."
                        I asked you a direct question: "That is, you believe that this is illegal and you need to act?"
                        Your answer: "That is, we must not become like the Maidan followers."
                        Your answer is about nothing, emptiness.
                        Therefore, I write that you do not directly answer a single question!
                        1. -1
                          1 August 2019 16: 05
                          I will be responsible for Lipchanin - Yes! This is how harsh and "illegal" we must act! And that's the only way. They will not be penetrated in another way. They lack the spirit of the revolutionaries of the past. So - small barkers for the loot.
                        2. +2
                          1 August 2019 17: 05
                          Having compiled a few of your comments, I think I understood the hidden meaning, your hidden message.
                          Noted)
                        3. -2
                          1 August 2019 17: 28
                          Quote: Revival
                          I asked you a direct question: "That is, you believe that this is illegal and you need to act?"

                          Sorry, but I had to specifically ask a question.
                          I answered another.
                          Just messed up the questions
                          Now I will answer yours.
                          And what was the violation of the law?
                      2. +1
                        1 August 2019 17: 07
                        We are waiting for a direct answer
                2. +1
                  1 August 2019 15: 51
                  Quote: Revival
                  So you have to act illegally?

                  According to the crowd, yes. According to riot police - no. Isn't that clear from the video?
                  1. 0
                    1 August 2019 17: 10
                    1. They did not ask you a question.
                    Therefore, if you are responsible for someone, answer at least on the topic of the question.
                    The question was precisely Lipchanin about his personal position, for understanding the initial position on the topic of discussion.
                    And here is your text about the opinion of the crowd and riot police !?
                    1. +1
                      1 August 2019 17: 19
                      Quote: Revival
                      1. They did not ask you a question.
                      Therefore, if you are responsible for someone, answer at least on the topic of the question.
                      The question was precisely Lipchanin about his personal position, for understanding the initial position on the topic of discussion.
                      And here is your text about the opinion of the crowd and riot police !?

                      1. It’s not for you to indicate what to answer, but what not!
                      2. If you ask a question to someone specifically, not wanting to listen to anyone else’s opinion, then write in a personal message, and do not post on a common thread.
                      3. Read the title of the article and, perhaps, you will understand the interconnection of illegal riots organized by the demshiza and the actions of riot police, which do not go beyond the "Law on Police".
                      1. -1
                        1 August 2019 19: 09
                        I didn’t clearly write roofing felts, you didn’t have enough considerations!
                        I will explain:
                        1. Lipchanin in a positive light gave an example about the actions of people in civilian clothes "about taking people into the forest and shovels, trenches."
                        2. I asked HIM a direct question: "That is, you believe that this is illegal and you need to act?"

                        And then you are for him: "In the opinion of the gathered crowd - yes. In the opinion of the OMON - no. Isn't that clear from the video?"
                        1. In my question, I asked him for HIS personal position. How does your comment help us know His Personal Position?
                        1. +1
                          2 August 2019 01: 28
                          Quote: Revival
                          I didn’t clearly write roofing felts, you didn’t have enough considerations!
                          I will explain:
                          1. Lipchanin in a positive light gave an example about the actions of people in civilian clothes "about taking people into the forest and shovels, trenches."
                          2. I asked HIM a direct question: "That is, you believe that this is illegal and you need to act?"

                          And then you are for him: "In the opinion of the gathered crowd - yes. In the opinion of the OMON - no. Isn't that clear from the video?"
                          1. In my question, I asked him for HIS personal position. How does your comment help us know His Personal Position?

                          I understand you perfectly, like Lipchanina. In fact, he gave an example of a choice of two evils:
                          1. Scare citizens planning and organizing riots.
                          2. Observe these organized riots with unknown consequences.
                          Both points are a violation of the law, but the first is a hooligan, and the second is open sabotage.
                          Decide for yourself if breaking the law is unavoidable, what is closer to you personally - the caked portions of Navalny, or the broken skull of some mother's revolutionary?
              3. +2
                1 August 2019 15: 41
                They talked about such a case.
                About 15 years ago, Khakamada and Nemtsov arrived in Minsk to stir up water.
                They were met at the airport by people in black suits, put in a car and taken to the forest. They gave shovels and ordered to dig a hole. After they dug it, not allowing them to wash themselves and change their underwear, they took them back to the airport, put them on a special plane and sent them back to Russia.

                Almost true, but they didn’t make a hole to dig. )))
                This is an old Belarusian practice))) So at the end of the 90s all thieves in the law of Belarus were shuganuli, they gathered all of them in one forest and forced to dig a hole. The result is that for 20 years there has not been a single thief in law in Belarus))).
                Regarding the Russian opposition - everyone, Khakamadu, Nemtsov, Sheremet, Svanidze, Kasyanov and other oppov, everyone lost fame and popularity precisely after expelling (with shame) from Belarus, that is, in fact, a trip to Belarus for them is the end of their career) )))
                1. -2
                  1 August 2019 16: 26
                  Quote: lucul
                  Almost true, but they didn’t make a hole to dig. )))

                  Yes, the main result)))
                  But there was a hole, it wasn’t, now it’s not important anymore)))
              4. +1
                1 August 2019 16: 38
                Do you really believe in this tale?
              5. 0
                1 August 2019 17: 48
                Quote: Lipchanin
                About 15 years ago, Khakamada and Nemtsov arrived in Minsk to stir up water.
                They were met right at the airport by people in black suits, put in a car and taken to the forest. There they gave shovels and ordered to dig a hole. After they dug it, they were not allowed to wash and change their underwear, they were taken back to the airport, put on a special plane and sent back to Russia. I haven’t heard that after that our "opposition" would visit Minsk

                This is all an anecdote (or a lie) of a hackamada in Minsk only 6 times in my memory in different years, though it didn’t lead any open propaganda (but the reason here is completely different, it’s just 0 without a stick for Belarus .. so sense from her activities, too 0)
                1. 0
                  1 August 2019 18: 00
                  Quote: Sunstorm
                  This is all a joke (or a lie)

                  Check out the post above.
                  lucul (Vitaliy) Today, 15: 41
            2. +6
              1 August 2019 11: 47
              As for youth, its puppeteers use it as a tool. The guys from wealthy families sat up. They are tired of playing computer games. They want to move, and how cool! When you can still call a policeman with impunity, play a show with a demonstration of his inappropriateness - he himself does not know what - but, wow, how angry he is. And with the puppeteers, everything is clear. The western source of financing has become uncomfortable - many intermediaries. But to put an accountant Luba Sobol at the Moscow State Duma is another matter entirely. There she will water with impunity Sobyanin’s slop, and at the same time look after what lies bad and can be grabbed. And there is a lot of it.
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 12: 02
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                When you can still call a policeman with impunity, play a show demonstrating your inappropriateness

                At the same time in the "News" to flicker, in social networks once again to light up
              2. +1
                1 August 2019 14: 08
                to grab)) ?? sable?) But what about others?
              3. 0
                1 August 2019 16: 46
                The stake was placed on young people who, having matured, will vote for their candidates. This is clear from the very beginning. Another thing is that those in power will offer what in response? Your "golden youth"?
                Maybe measures, or who will think what he is doing when he is being watched from a hostile bloc, and not when all are mine and his hand washes his hand?
            3. +3
              1 August 2019 18: 19
              Quote: major147
              You need to act like a "dad", straight in the face!

              I'll tell you like a dad. So "Father" is the navel of the earth and the government is always guilty, just count how many times he changed the government, for whom? on your people ... on your people and so on in a circle. I'm sorry to upset you, but "dad" is still that populist ... for example, in Belarus the phrase "how long?" It is understood simply - "dad" will be until his youngest son Kohl replaces him ... You have very big illusions about "dad" .. Although we take his catch phrases like "I'll take the milk by the balls" who do you think he is takes the balls? Yes, those whom he puts before. And these "talents" of his, graduates of the "president's academy" .. brought the refinery to the handle, brought medicine to the handle ... the most famous example that even leaked to your press is the situation in the city of Orsha, the city actually fell into the abyss (no money , in the budget, no jobs, nothing ... only huge debts) you know how they solved this problem on all enterprises of the republic imposed a special tax (did it help? we will find out soon)
        3. +13
          1 August 2019 09: 11
          Quote: Bulls.
          I have been always interested in,

          But look ... interesting shots

          It is clearly seen that there are organizers, they have a certain group of them, who most likely gathered in the distance, and then went to the place of general gathering. The vast majority of these groups are made up of young people. Suspiciously many heavy backpacks on the shoulders. What is in them? In the place of the rally itself there are VERY many professional video cameras.
          Yes, the police does not hide persons. The victim, the police immediately provide assistance. Muzzle faces on the asphalt is not dragged ... No smoke and water cannons ... Fortunately there is something to compare

          1. +2
            1 August 2019 09: 54
            Quote: svp67
            The vast majority of these groups are composed of young people. Suspiciously a lot of heavy backpacks behind.

            More than 600 out of a thousand detained at the rally are from other cities.
            1. +2
              1 August 2019 10: 07
              I’ll tell you more: it is full of citizens of other states. It is difficult to recruit your extras, they resorted to the help of migrant workers.
              1. +2
                1 August 2019 10: 12
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                It is difficult to recruit your extras, they resorted to the help of migrant workers.

                And so everywhere. Migrant workers are always cheaper than local ones.
                It looks like a basement and here I’ve snatched my penny
              2. +3
                1 August 2019 15: 45
                Are nonresident and guest workers in Moscow? Hmm, really some kind of anomalous situation ...
              3. +1
                1 August 2019 16: 49
                Yes, we have half of Moscow citizens of other states. In the subway, people of Slavic appearance less and less every year
            2. +1
              1 August 2019 15: 55
              Quote: Lipchanin
              More than 600 out of a thousand detained at the rally are from other cities.

              Do not bother to tell: how many people work in Moscow without registering nonresident? Or is Moscow only for Muscovites?
              1. -2
                1 August 2019 17: 35
                Quote: Silvestr
                Do not bother to tell: how many people work in Moscow without registering nonresident? Or is Moscow only for Muscovites?

                And everyone has with them

                Knives, hammers and gas masks seized from individual participants in the last rally (July 27)

                And all
                the overwhelming majority of their participants cannot unequivocally speak out for what specific changes in the country they are advocating.
        4. +1
          1 August 2019 10: 00
          Quote: Bulls.
          I was always wondering what will happen when the opponents of bulk and other liberds also go out

          Will not come out. Today, Navalny’s supporters are the only politically active part of the Russian population who are ready to act. To be honest, I do not consider everyone who comes to such meetings to be Navalny’s supporters. Among them are communists, and democrats, and even anarchists. It’s just that today there’s no one else to really lead them, except for Navalny. These people are ready to go under any banners, if only not under the banners of the party of crooks and thieves, as well as their leader. Actually, this is the core uniting them. These people do not marry Navalny, but against Putin's irremovability, depriving them of their right to choose, against corruption of the current government and depriving Russia of prospects. Any thieves' power sooner or later wakes up the very famously that had fallen before that. The generation is changing. The future is not ours, but our children and grandchildren. Sooner or later, they will sweep away this occupation power. It's unavoidable.
          1. +2
            1 August 2019 10: 22
            Quote: kjhg
            Today, Navalny’s supporters are the only politically active part of the Russian population,

            They, this "politically active" for the most part, did not earn a penny themselves and did not put a penny into the country's budget, but they open their mouths about "thieves' power". What was stolen from them? Which one of them did the authorities rob?
            I don’t remember which year, but recently, the basement promised the youngsters, those who were detained, monetary compensation in US rubles. I didn’t pay a dime. Do you think that came from the periphery? For their money?
            The future is not ours, but our children and grandchildren.

            And therefore, from such years have they been taught to spit on laws?
            Remind me than the lawless Maidan ended? "Heavenly Hundred" in Moscow wanted to get?
            Do you want this for Russia?
            And the director is one. In the Phasington regional committee sits
            1. Don
              +10
              1 August 2019 11: 05
              Quote: Lipchanin
              And therefore, from such years they are taught to spit on laws

              This current government spits on all the laws and rights of citizens, and it simply wiped out the constitution. And the people are required to comply with the rules written by billionaire thieves. He who does not comply with the law has no right to demand that others observe it. Thieves stealing billions do not have the right to demand holiness from others.
              1. -3
                1 August 2019 11: 22
                Quote: Donskoy
                He who does not comply with the law has no right to demand that others observe it.

                In violation of the law, whoever comes to power will follow the law?
                You Maidan Sumeria taught nothing?
                Has anyone decent come to power there?
                Or did they steal less?
                Is this the future you are preparing for Russia?
                No one will give you a civil war. Do not expect.
                And such a reflection.
                The West and the United States hate GDP and all our power.
                Therefore, I and a lot of people hate both the West and the United States.
                You and others like you also hate GDP and power.
                How does it feel about you? Why are you better than a mattress?
                According to you, there is a thieves' power in Russia and you want to overthrow it. Fashington is actively helping you with this. The fact that all the shares in bulk were paid for by the State Department, like our "opposition", is no longer a secret.
                In Sumeria, frankly thieving parashin’s power, Phasington himself speaks about this.
                Nevertheless, he gave money to support this government and made no attempt to overthrow it
                It leads to certain thoughts.

                Why does he openly support one openly thieves' government, and gives money to overthrow the other one "thieves"?
                1. +4
                  1 August 2019 12: 19
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Donskoy
                  He who does not comply with the law has no right to demand that others observe it.

                  In violation of the law, whoever comes to power will follow the law?
                  You Maidan Sumeria taught nothing?
                  Has anyone decent come to power there?
                  Or did they steal less?
                  Is this the future you are preparing for Russia?
                  No one will give you a civil war. Do not expect.
                  And such a reflection.
                  The West and the United States hate GDP and all our power.
                  Therefore, I and a lot of people hate both the West and the United States.
                  You and others like you also hate GDP and power.
                  How does it feel about you? Why are you better than a mattress?
                  According to you, there is a thieves' power in Russia and you want to overthrow it. Fashington is actively helping you with this. The fact that all the shares in bulk were paid for by the State Department, like our "opposition", is no longer a secret.
                  In Sumeria, frankly thieving parashin’s power, Phasington himself speaks about this.
                  Nevertheless, he gave money to support this government and made no attempt to overthrow it
                  It leads to certain thoughts.

                  Why does he openly support one openly thieves' government, and gives money to overthrow the other one "thieves"?


                  How much do the servants cook now pay for?
                  1. -4
                    1 August 2019 12: 38
                    Are you talking about non-systemic opposition? States allocated 6,5 billion green. How are they distributed among you, not in the know. I hope in fairness.
                    1. +5
                      1 August 2019 12: 41
                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      Are you talking about non-systemic opposition? States allocated 6,5 billion green. How are they distributed among you, not in the know. I hope in fairness.


                      I don’t belong to liberals. And I don’t know how they are distributed and what is distributed there. But then it’s not difficult for me to understand what you think through time and with considerable difficulty.
                    2. -8
                      1 August 2019 12: 48
                      Quote: AS Ivanov.
                      Are you talking about non-systemic opposition? States allocated 6,5 billion green. How are they distributed among you, not in the know. I hope that in fairness

                      Will not answer. In the training manual there is no such answer
                      Yes, and it's a shame to them. On the Sumerian Maidan more allocated
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2019 14: 09
                        65 !! ay not 6,5
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                  2. -1
                    1 August 2019 12: 41
                    Well, yes, only you are for the idea, for the people you care. Already foreigners were invited to the rally, probably for the idea of ​​standing up, that is, for nothing.
                    1. +3
                      1 August 2019 12: 42
                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      Well, yes, only you are for the idea, for the people you care. Already foreigners were invited to the rally, probably for the idea of ​​standing up, that is, for nothing.


                      Who are you?
                      1. -6
                        1 August 2019 12: 51
                        Quote: free
                        Who are you?

                        Who on the site farts vomits for the Maidan in Russia
                        1. +1
                          1 August 2019 12: 53
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: free
                          Who are you?

                          Who on the site farts vomits for the Maidan in Russia


                          And what is the difference between a maidan and a revolution cook?
                        2. -5
                          1 August 2019 13: 06
                          Quote: free
                          And what is the difference between a maidan and a revolution cook?

                          Liberastic, both the collapse of the country, civil war and hoopoes in power.
                          Or for you parashka ideal revolutionary?
                        3. -6
                          1 August 2019 15: 00
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: free
                          And what is the difference between a maidan and a revolution cook?

                          Liberastic, both the collapse of the country, civil war and hoopoes in power.
                          Or for you parashka ideal revolutionary?


                          both the collapse of the country, the civil war
                          Which is what you needed to prove. You are as stupid as a cork.
                        4. -3
                          1 August 2019 15: 33
                          Quote: free
                          As required.

                          Exactly. I never said how you differ from the hostages trying to ditch Russia
                          From you the intelligence is rushing. I didn’t answer a single question, just poured labels.
                          And smarter than the fact that the GDP feeds me did not come up with anything.
                          And this suggests that you did not answer. State Department training manual. And there was no answer to my questions.
                          So you swam. I did not answer questions, but turned to the individual.
                          Bye, Umapalata
                          Update the training manual, otherwise the curator from the State Department will be dissatisfied laughing laughing laughing
                          Yes, minus, do not forget to put me laughing
                        5. -1
                          1 August 2019 15: 40
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: free
                          As required.

                          Exactly. I never said how you differ from the hostages trying to ditch Russia
                          From you the intelligence is rushing. I didn’t answer a single question, just poured labels.
                          And smarter than the fact that the GDP feeds me did not come up with anything.
                          And this suggests that you did not answer. State Department training manual. And there was no answer to my questions.
                          So you swam. I did not answer questions, but turned to the individual.
                          Bye, Umapalata
                          Update the training manual, otherwise the curator from the State Department will be dissatisfied laughing laughing laughing
                          Yes, minus, do not forget to put me laughing


                          I don’t appeal your comments to the site administration, unlike you.
                        6. +2
                          1 August 2019 16: 30
                          Quote: free
                          I don’t appeal your comments to the site administration, unlike you.

                          Liberastic. I don’t even know the way there.
                          Only on Sunday left the ban
                        7. +1
                          1 August 2019 13: 41
                          And what is the difference between a maidan and a revolution cook?

                          And then you, the liberoid behind the red flag, don’t know?

                          From a political point of view, a revolution is massive mass actionand Maidan is heap performance fanatics and paid.
                          And from the philosophical point of view, this is a leap in developmentand Maidan is a leap in degradation
                        8. -2
                          1 August 2019 14: 17
                          Quote: bk316
                          And then you, the liberoid behind the red flag, don’t know?

                          Yes, they all know. See how the locusts swooped down with cons. Not an hour ago, the cry was thrown "The ideas of liberalism are in danger" laughing
                        9. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 21
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: bk316
                          And then you, the liberoid behind the red flag, don’t know?

                          Yes, they all know. See how the locusts swooped down with cons. Not an hour ago, the cry was thrown "The ideas of liberalism are in danger" laughing


                          Why are you a cook complaining about comments. There is nothing to answer, but the truth is not convenient.
                        10. 0
                          1 August 2019 16: 31
                          Quote: free
                          There is nothing to answer but the truth is not convenient.

                          Yes to moo about questions laughing
                          So I did not answer my simplest question laughing
                        11. 0
                          1 August 2019 15: 02
                          Quote: bk316
                          And what is the difference between a maidan and a revolution cook?

                          And then you, the liberoid behind the red flag, don’t know?

                          From a political point of view, a revolution is massive mass actionand Maidan is heap performance fanatics and paid.
                          And from the philosophical point of view, this is a leap in developmentand Maidan is a leap in degradation


                          If you think that a revolution, which is a leap forward in development, is bad, then whose interests are you protecting?
                        12. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 38
                          Quote: free
                          If you think that a revolution is a leap in development

                          Especially the "hydration revolution" according to the scenario of which you were set on GDP, then this is a jump laughing
                          These have already jumped so that Crimea and Donbass have lost. But they acquired a civil war.
                          This is such a "leap in development" you and your shobla Russia prepared?
                          The faces will crack
                        13. +3
                          1 August 2019 16: 30
                          The revolution is a change in the socio-political formation.
                          Maidan - a coup d'etat, which retained the power of the bourgeoisie.
                        14. -2
                          1 August 2019 16: 36
                          Quote: IImonolitII
                          The revolution is a change in the socio-political formation.
                          Maidan - a coup d'etat, which retained the power of the bourgeoisie.


                          Bravo. If you can get it to the cook I'll put one more plus.
                        15. 0
                          1 August 2019 16: 46
                          Quote: free
                          Bravo. If you can get it to the cook I'll put one more plus.

                          Report to the liberal Mosses UNABLE that the Sumerians call their Maidan a revolution.
                        16. +2
                          1 August 2019 16: 48
                          Quote: IImonolitII
                          The revolution is a change in the socio-political formation.

                          And what has changed in Ukraine?
                          Maidan - a coup d'etat, which retained the power of the bourgeoisie.

                          So they called their putsch a revolution of hymnity
            3. +2
              1 August 2019 12: 08
              I think they do not care about the laws they are taught not only there
            4. 0
              1 August 2019 14: 39
              Quote: Lipchanin
              but about the "thieves' power" they open their mouths.

              you are silent, here Navalny has dispersed.
              But do not they steal?
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Which of them has the government robbed?

              And what about you? The government does not rob you of taxes, housing and communal services? Are you happy with everything?
              1. 0
                1 August 2019 14: 51
                Quote: Silvestr
                And what about you? The government does not rob you of taxes, housing and communal services? Are you happy with everything?

                Well, why take it out of context?
                Let’s answer the complete question then.
                They, this "politically active" for the most part, did not earn a penny themselves and did not put a penny into the country's budget, but they open their mouths about "thieves' power". What was stolen from them? Which one of them did the authorities rob?

                Dare
                1. -1
                  1 August 2019 14: 58
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Dare

                  I repeat to you again - you yourself are silent! Why did Navalny usurp your voice? But, if you agree with everything that is happening in the country, the question is removed.
                  Politics, like nature, does not tolerate emptiness. This emptiness was taken by Navalny. And you, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Slovak Republic should have said. Where is their protection of our interests?
                  1. +2
                    1 August 2019 15: 25
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    I repeat to you again - you yourself are silent! Why did Navalny usurp your voice?

                    You, as usual, distort, or rather, try to do it. Navalny did not usurp anyone's voice. Those who today support Navalny are the smallest minority; by the way (to the majority) everything that happens is deeply shed.

                    Quote: Silvestr
                    Politics, like nature, does not tolerate emptiness. This void took Navalny

                    Brad.

                    Quote: Silvestr
                    And you, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Slovak Republic should have said. Where is their protection of our interests?

                    If you think that someone (except yourself and your closest friends and relatives) in this world is interesting - you are deeply mistaken ... no one is obliged to fight for your interests, and will not do this.

                    If you want, fight yourself. You were robbed by taxes and housing and communal services oppressed ... you are our cramped laughing
                    1. -1
                      1 August 2019 15: 30
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      Those who support Navalny today are a minimal minority

                      I do not argue
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      (to the majority) everything that happens is deeply shed.

                      and this is true, and so we live. With the best medicine in the world, education and the happiest retirees

                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      If you think that someone (except yourself and your closest friends and relatives) in this world is interesting - you are deeply mistaken ... no one is obliged to fight for your interests, and will not do this.

                      and I agree with that. What I'm trying to convey to opponents
                      1. +2
                        1 August 2019 15: 45
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        that's why we live

                        Do you personally live poorly? I do not believe (s).

                        Try not to speak "for everyone", it is harmful ...

                        Quote: Silvestr
                        With the best medicine in the world, education and the happiest retirees

                        Medicine - is, it cannot but eat ... do you really not know. Education - education standards, depends on who receives this education.
                        Pensioners - well, my parents never live in poverty, with my (and not only) help, essno.

                        Quote: Silvestr
                        What I'm trying to convey to opponents

                        You are trying to muddy the water. And crush her in a mortar.

                        Both are counterproductive by definition. request
                        1. -2
                          1 August 2019 15: 48
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Do you personally live poorly? I do not believe (s).

                          Do you want us to live according to the principle "my house is on the edge"? What came of it - can be seen in Ukraine

                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          You are trying to muddy the water. And crush her in a mortar.

                          muddy water those who catch fish. A fish catches power
                        2. +4
                          1 August 2019 16: 11
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          Quote: Cat Man Null

                          Do you personally live poorly? I do not believe (s).


                          Do you want us to live according to the principle "my house is on the edge"? What came of it - can be seen in Ukraine

                          (boring voice): This is demagoguery ...

                          No, I just don't want an unfamiliar uncle to broadcast something "on behalf of everyone" on the Internet.

                          Nobody pushed you for that, buddy wink

                          So - do you live badly, did "power" crush you at all? The capital, a small apartment, a car, a job ... a pension, again ...

                          Quote: Silvestr
                          muddy water those who catch fish. A fish catches power

                          Here and now - stir her up specifically you Yes

                          But it’s interesting, let’s say, that you were coy up to a logical conclusion. Go out to the typewriter - and the typewriters are yok ... but there is a revolution belay

                          It’s interesting that you will sing then wink
                        3. -1
                          1 August 2019 16: 14
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          No, I just don't want an unfamiliar uncle to broadcast something "on behalf of everyone" on the Internet.

                          strange, but I agree with you. But I don’t want the box to speak on my behalf
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          So - do you live badly, did "power" crush you at all? The capital, a small apartment, a car, a job ... a pension, again ...

                          you repeat - "my house is not on the edge"
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          But it’s interesting, let’s say, that you were coy up to a logical conclusion. Go out to the typewriter - and the typewriters are yok ... but there is a revolution

                          there will be no revolution, Jack, there will be. The masses believe in the king, but I do not.
                          The problem is that the authorities decided to speak for everyone and everywhere. Read at your leisure about the choice in Sevastopol. Same. And there, too, stand on their hind legs. Crimeans have such a mentality. to injustice.
                          Do you want the Crimea to flare up? Somehow the picture will be terrible for everyone
                        4. +4
                          1 August 2019 16: 36
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          The masses believe in the king, but I do not

                          Here you are again - for the masses ... damn it, I am also a part of that mass, and I don’t believe in any king. Just for his absence in the current political system laughing

                          Quote: Silvestr
                          "my house is not on the edge"

                          Which confirms that you personally are well arranged. So we write Yes

                          Quote: Silvestr
                          the authorities decided to speak for everyone and everywhere

                          Power must be ... adjusted. So in the elections we’ll do it, each one according to his own understanding ... what is it now to crush and stir up the water? wink

                          Quote: Silvestr
                          Read at your leisure about the choice in Sevastopol. Same. And there, too, stand on their hind legs

                          Link send, plz. I went to Sevastopol.su, but there it is somehow not on the front page ...
                        5. 0
                          1 August 2019 16: 44
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Power must be ... adjusted. Here in the elections, and let’s do it, each according to his own understanding ...

                          agree again! This requires fair, not sleek, elections.

                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Link send, plz.

                          https://sevastopol.su/news/sevastopolskaya-rodina-podala-v-sud-na-sevizbirkom-iz-za-snyatiya-s-vyborov
                          https://sevastopol.su/news/kogo-naznachat-spaylerom-na-vybory-v-sevastopole
                          https://sevastopol.su/news/sevseti-790-zabor-na-yashmovom-vezhlivye-osy-i-nevezhlivye-muzhchiny
                          https://sevastopol.su/news/dana-pravovaya-ocenka-situacii-s-vyborami-v-sevastopole
                        6. +5
                          1 August 2019 17: 12
                          Quote: Silvestr
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Power must be ... adjusted. Here in the elections, and let’s do it, each according to his own understanding ...

                          agree again! This requires fair, not sleek, elections.

                          Ideally, yes. But power can not only be adjusted in elections. I’m sometimes pinching my own, local ... purely in the mood Yes

                          Now, IMHO, the main problem is not even in the elections, but in the absence of feedback - the opinion of voters about the work of "their" deputy does not affect this very deputy in any way (in many ways, this is the legacy of the late Union, by the way, where the deputies, in fact, nothing and did not decide). It would be worth fighting with this, but I do not see the way for this yet. request

                          Thank you for the links, at leisure I will study.
                        7. 0
                          2 August 2019 00: 57
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          the opinion of voters about the work of "their" deputy does not affect this very deputy in any way ... ... It would be worth fighting with this, but I do not see a way for this yet

                          Hmm ... I will support. Similar thoughts run through my head ... How would I get them to work (representatives of the authorities)? And just the answer is not visible.

                          PS And Lipchanin also has no answer.
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Yes, to be honest, I really do not know.

                          True, a little about something else, but the meaning, I think, is close.
                  2. -1
                    1 August 2019 15: 42
                    Quote: Silvestr
                    why are you silent!

                    I’m physically not getting to Moscow
                    And you, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, the Slovak Republic should have said. Where is their protection of our interests?

                    But why did you rank me among them?
                    I am out of the way with these talkers. And with the basement youngsters let their parents do
                    1. 0
                      1 August 2019 15: 46
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      I’m physically not getting to Moscow

                      but as they hear in Moscow, you saw. For. so that we are heard, we elect deputies, we select parties. And after the election, all this is deeply spit. People are no longer Jewish either to parties or to deputies. And we are not allowed to choose other deputies
                      Quote: Lipchanin

                      But why did you rank me among them?

                      you, like me, went to the polls and our chosen ones deceived us. we are silent. and someone is not.
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      And with the basement youngsters let their parents do

                      you exaggerate the merits of Navalny. Navalny - pop Hapon Kremlin
                2. 0
                  1 August 2019 15: 29
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  And what about you? The government does not rob you of taxes, housing and communal services? Are you happy with everything?

                  Well, why take it out of context?
                  Let’s answer the complete question then.
                  They, this "politically active" for the most part, did not earn a penny themselves and did not put a penny into the country's budget, but they open their mouths about "thieves' power". What was stolen from them? Which one of them did the authorities rob?

                  Dare


                  The oligarchy is in power, which became such in the 90s. Privatizing nation-wide enterprises and service sectors. And many simply collapsed. Having become monopolists, these same oligarchs are raising bars like the housing and communal services, Vodokanal, etc. They are reducing social programs, i.e. free schools, kindergartens, medetsina, housing lines, etc.
                  Privatization is theft among the people. Privatizers have not invested a dime in these enterprises but transferred them to private property.
                  That's all the cook.
                  1. -2
                    1 August 2019 15: 52
                    Your apartment is privatized. How much did they pay? Start with yourself - return it to municipal property.
                    1. -2
                      1 August 2019 15: 53
                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      Your apartment is privatized. How much did they pay? Start with yourself - return it to municipal property.


                      It’s easy. Once the Soviet regime is established.
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2019 16: 05
                        You see, I am a supporter of the transfer of property by inheritance. And, according to the results of the privatization of my enterprise, I received a package of its shares, of course not a control, I am too small. But in monetary terms, quite solid, as it turned out. And another question: what are you, a communist, as I understand it, doing in the ranks of the pro-Western opposition? This is not comme il faut. Stalin would have definitely shot you. Together with me.
                        1. -2
                          1 August 2019 16: 24
                          Quote: AU Ivanov.
                          You see, I am a supporter of the transfer of property by inheritance. And, according to the results of the privatization of my enterprise, I received a package of its shares, of course not a control, I am too small. But in monetary terms, quite solid, as it turned out. And another question: what are you, a communist, as I understand it, doing in the ranks of the pro-Western opposition? This is not comme il faut. Stalin would have definitely shot you. Together with me.


                          I do nothing and do not belong to the pro-Western opposition.
                          And Stalin would really have shot you.
                        2. -1
                          1 August 2019 16: 53
                          Quote: free
                          I do nothing and do not belong to the pro-Western opposition.

                          BLAWBABLE, but we must treat her sharply negatively.
                          How zu teaches laughing
                        3. -2
                          1 August 2019 18: 20
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: free
                          I do nothing and do not belong to the pro-Western opposition.

                          BLAWBABLE, but we must treat her sharply negatively.
                          How zu teaches laughing


                          For those who are on the handbrake.
                          I have nothing to do with the pro-Western opposition in this context, which means it is not connected with it in any way. You're a cook even stupider than I thought.
                        4. +3
                          1 August 2019 17: 28
                          Oh oh Just you and pour water on the mill pro-Western. Just understand, if God forbid, power will pass to non-systemic ones, read: under external control, then you, the Communists, will be the first to suffer. Yeah, decommunization, as in Ukraine. Although there the Communists were more decent and stood against the Maidan, unlike you. So, what you have to go underground, you do not get used to. True to someone underground, and to someone in Switzerland.
                      2. -1
                        1 August 2019 16: 51
                        Quote: free
                        As soon as Soviet power is established

                        So NEVER laughing
                        Here it is BABY-BABY your true face laughing
                  2. -4
                    1 August 2019 16: 38
                    BLABLABOL liberal, what GDP is related to the collapse of the USSR, privatization, the creation of an oligarchy? laughing
                    Throw the training manual out of date. laughing
                    By the way, can you recall who brought the labeled and the drunk to power? Or is it not in your training manual? laughing
                    1. -3
                      1 August 2019 16: 41
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      BLABLABOL liberal, what GDP is related to the collapse of the USSR, privatization, the creation of an oligarchy? laughing
                      Throw the training manual out of date. laughing
                      By the way, can you recall who brought the labeled and the drunk to power? Or is it not in your training manual? laughing


                      By the way, cook. You did say that you have everything you want.
                      Answer how you earned it or what services you received it for. You have nothing to be ashamed of !? Why are you silent.
                      1. -4
                        1 August 2019 16: 57
                        Quote: free
                        Answer how you earned it or for what services you received it.

                        Could not answer how you BLAWNER did not answer more than one of my questions.
                        All that I have earned. Now retired.
                        Having fun reading liberal writings and trying to understand how admirers of Stalin could get to the State Department grants.
                        1. -2
                          1 August 2019 18: 21
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: free
                          Answer how you earned it or for what services you received it.

                          Could not answer how you BLAWNER did not answer more than one of my questions.
                          All that I have earned. Now retired.
                          Having fun reading liberal writings and trying to understand how admirers of Stalin could get to the State Department grants.


                          Who did the cook work?
                    2. 0
                      1 August 2019 17: 44
                      And, actually, who was Labeled by party affiliation? Who was Borya the witch? One was already the Secretary General, the other the first regional committee. Communists, no? The Communists are not the first to destroy the country.
                      1. -1
                        1 August 2019 18: 23
                        Quote: AU Ivanov.
                        And, actually, who was Labeled by party affiliation? Who was Borya the witch? One was already the Secretary General, the other the first regional committee. Communists, no? The Communists are not the first to destroy the country.


                        Imagine that you were caught and a word of 5 letters was written on your back, the first r and the last o. By your logic, this is what you have, because it says the same. With what I congratulate you.
                        1. +1
                          1 August 2019 18: 37
                          Sorry, but here's another question for you: who did we allow the merging of crime and power that began in the early 70's? Who controlled the economy so effectively that in the mid-80s the card system for essential goods was practically introduced? Why was the country called Soviet, but the Soviets, that is, the people elected, did not have real power, but were a decorative organ? Why didn’t the people choose the party elite, it was appointed on the party ’bickers, and now you are crucifying for unhappy candidates not allowed to the feeding trough?
                        2. -2
                          1 August 2019 19: 26
                          These were people who called themselves Communists, but were not in fact. They were engaged in the smooth restoration of capitalism and completed the restoration in '91. Those who are now in power are their flesh from the flesh. And these and these go to the prohibitions to maintain power.
                  3. +1
                    1 August 2019 18: 50
                    Quote: free
                    Reduce social programs i.e. free schools, kindergartens, medetsina, housing queues
                    -all kindergartens in 90 were occupied by organizations / offices / lines what-in our area again became municipal kindergartens.Menu from the last but one occupied by offices together with the organization were transported to 2015-m ...
                    1. -2
                      1 August 2019 19: 27
                      Quote: your1970
                      Quote: free
                      Reduce social programs i.e. free schools, kindergartens, medetsina, housing queues
                      -all kindergartens in 90 were occupied by organizations / offices / lines what-in our area again became municipal kindergartens.Menu from the last but one occupied by offices together with the organization were transported to 2015-m ...


                      They are municipal but not free.
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2019 19: 33
                        Quote: free
                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: free
                        Reduce social programs i.e. free schools, kindergartens, medetsina, housing queues
                        -all kindergartens in 90 were occupied by organizations / offices / lines what-in our area again became municipal kindergartens.Menu from the last but one occupied by offices together with the organization were transported to 2015-m ...


                        They are municipal but not free.
                        - In fact, even in the USSR, kindergartens were not free (except departmental). It cost a penny - but not for free
                        Kindergarten (MBDOU if I am not mistaken) from which we were evicted - it costs parents 980 rubles a month now, 2 colleagues take their children there
          2. +1
            1 August 2019 14: 19
            Do you know what your trouble is and people like you? you are ready, even with the devil, even with Judah to go out the main thing to achieve your goals. people cannot go beyond the collapse of their country. people can not arrange a protest in which policemen as law enforcement officers can suffer and, moreover, substitute ordinary people who will fall under the distribution. you must fight what you do not like and it is your right. but by law. and not with those who spit on these laws. Do you want a better country? and for the sake of this they are ready to break all possible elementary things. therefore, you will not succeed. it’s just nauseous in half of the country's population and for this reason they won’t go for you. for it is disgusting.
            1. 0
              1 August 2019 14: 52
              Quote: carstorm 11
              are you ready to get the main thing out of your goals even with the devil

              Yesterday, one such plain text told me so
              1. -2
                1 August 2019 21: 21
                "Yesterday, one such person told me so in plain text."
                All who are not ready will never achieve anything at all!
          3. +1
            1 August 2019 15: 55
            Quote: kjhg
            Today, Navalny’s supporters are the only politically active part of the Russian population,

            You made a reservation. Supporters of Navalny - politically degenerative part of the younger generation. So rather.
        5. +2
          1 August 2019 12: 51
          And here I come to my mind a video with the appeal of workers from the Uralvagonzavod ...
          True, then for some reason they were unhappy, but then ..
          1. 0
            1 August 2019 14: 40
            Quote: Revival
            True, then for some reason they were unhappy

            reduced them and did not pay salaries
        6. +2
          1 August 2019 13: 32
          I was always wondering what will happen when the opponents of bulk and other liberds also go out and begin to act like him, i.e. outside the law?

          I would not want it to come to that, because I have to go outside laughing
          But he always told the liberoids that between them and the lamppost only the GDP that they hate so much.
          1. -1
            1 August 2019 14: 20
            Quote: bk316
            But he always told the liberoids that between them and the lamppost only the GDP that they hate so much.

        7. -6
          1 August 2019 13: 55
          And I would have walked along liberal chins, as they taught in boxing ... I took revenge for the 90s.
          1. -2
            1 August 2019 14: 21
            Quote: Tank jacket
            And I would walk along liberal chins, as taught in boxing.

            You can and so
            1. -1
              1 August 2019 14: 39
              hi So good too + you
              1. -2
                1 August 2019 14: 54
                Quote: Tank jacket
                So good too + you

                But in the end, I and you from the liberals minus laughing
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          2. +2
            1 August 2019 15: 19
            You are not the only one, not one of your hands itches, there is no urine.
            1. -2
              1 August 2019 15: 33
              Quote: AU Ivanov.
              You are not the only one, not one of your hands itches, there is no urine.


              And you don’t restrain yourself. And we will see how quickly you will be forgotten in prison by tank jackets and a lipan cook. wassat
              1. -1
                1 August 2019 17: 16
                So far, the police are doing pretty well. When you need help, we will help.
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                      1. +1
                        3 August 2019 09: 49
                        The Investigative Committee has secured the detention of six people in the riot case during the rally on July 27 (article 212 of the Criminal Code). laughing
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                        4. +2
                          3 August 2019 21: 20
                          Quote: free
                          Quote: Tank jacket
                          GP will work fine, expect ...

                          What is GP?

                          Shhh ... GP is Global Arctic Fox, buddy wink laughing
                        5. +1
                          3 August 2019 21: 30
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Quote: free
                          Quote: Tank jacket
                          GP will work fine, expect ...

                          What is GP?

                          Shhh ... GP is Global Arctic Fox, buddy wink laughing


                          It’s unlikely that we are friends for each other. It’s only recently that you were against a rally saying that this was the beginning of the end, well, the very GP. And now, it seems, you don’t mind?
                          Or you promise the GP only to me exclusively, but then this is a threat of physical violence, and this is punishable by law for which you recently stood a mountain.
                          So what kind of GP do you promise and to whom?
                        6. +2
                          3 August 2019 22: 13
                          Quote: free
                          Just recently, you were against a rally saying that this is the beginning of the end

                          You must have beguiled me with someone.

                          Quote: free
                          And now you kind of like no longer mind?

                          These meetings are absolutely purple for me. I don’t go there myself, it’s just once, if the rally is within the framework of the law - even if it’s for myself, all that goes beyond this is the business of specially trained people. My help is not yet required for them, glory ... Labor Yes

                          Quote: free
                          Or you promise GP only to me exclusively, but then this is a threat of physical violence

                          Gosss ... you asked what it is, I voiced my assumption on this topic ... do not be alarmed, you really laughing

                          Quote: free
                          What GP do you promise and to whom?

                          I never promise anyone what I can’t do. Sleep well, and the GP will not touch you.

                          PS: well, like children, she’s right request
                        7. -1
                          3 August 2019 22: 18
                          Quote: Cat Man Null
                          Quote: free
                          Just recently, you were against a rally saying that this is the beginning of the end

                          You must have beguiled me with someone.

                          Quote: free
                          And now you kind of like no longer mind?

                          These meetings are absolutely purple for me. I don’t go there myself, it’s just once, if the rally is within the framework of the law - even if it’s for myself, all that goes beyond this is the business of specially trained people. My help is not yet required for them, glory ... Labor Yes

                          Quote: free
                          Or you promise GP only to me exclusively, but then this is a threat of physical violence

                          Gosss ... you asked what it is, I voiced my assumption on this topic ... do not be alarmed, you really laughing

                          Quote: free
                          What GP do you promise and to whom?

                          I never promise anyone what I can’t do. Sleep well, and the GP will not touch you.

                          PS: well, like children, she’s right request


                          So I didn’t ask you from the beginning, you yourself got in.
                          And about being afraid of you, do not flatter yourself.
            2. -2
              1 August 2019 16: 41
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              You are not the only one, not one of your hands itches, there is no urine.

              Yes, it seems they will finish the game soon.
              Especially free from the head and not free from State Department grants
              They will not be taken to the cops, torn into rags
              1. -1
                1 August 2019 18: 31
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                You are not the only one, not one of your hands itches, there is no urine.

                Yes, it seems they will finish the game soon.
                Especially free from the head and not free from State Department grants
                They will not be taken to the cops, torn into rags


                Will you vomit?
          3. 0
            1 August 2019 17: 33
            At least disrespect for those who can not be disregarded by law can be seen in your comment
        8. -3
          1 August 2019 14: 07
          Quote: Bulls.
          I was always wondering what will happen when the opponents of bulk and other liberds also go out and begin to act like him, i.e. outside the law?

          It will be very interesting to see how the police will "accept" them. Although we are unlikely to see this, they can only together with the police, as "Cossacks", and against - the spirit is not enough. Tell me, members of the forum, are you grinding your teeth at the mention of Gorbachev, Yeltsin, and many of you went to a rally against them? And, well, yes, well, yes, you fed the families at that time, you had no time. Well, well, how many times did they go against Serdyukov at the behest of the police? Also, never?
          To go against the system, you need certain character traits, including courage, and the so-called. "Opponents" are only walkers to pro-government rallies when nothing threatens health and career.
        9. 0
          1 August 2019 15: 28
          Will not come out.
          Opponents against the pension did not work out, and after all, it concerns anyone.
          And here they will not come out.
          Although if his opponents are those who supported this reform and therefore did not work out, then such opponents are unlikely to be supported
        10. 0
          2 August 2019 15: 49
          Your interest should have already been satisfied on May 5, when the Cossacks beat opponents of the current government with whips, thereby, including provoking riots, as well as journalists (as if the Komsomol journalist got it), thereby hindering the implementation of their activities. Not one was detained on the spot, not a single criminal case was opened, only one was fined for "petty hooliganism."
      2. +12
        1 August 2019 09: 31
        Quote: Stav
        No words, crushed the site ..


        Urgently leave him!
        1. -3
          1 August 2019 14: 22
          Quote: Banshee
          Urgently leave him!

          Subtracted from the salary
        2. +3
          1 August 2019 15: 59
          Quote: Banshee
          Quote: Stav
          No words, crushed the site ..


          Urgently leave him!

          I would even say: - Quickly! Decisively!
          1. +1
            1 August 2019 16: 58
            Quote: Rededi
            Quickly! Decisively!

            Nizyayayayaya, in the State Department will put truancy
      3. 0
        2 August 2019 08: 54
        It’s easier for people to believe the zombie man, because admitting that you're a Kremlin boat is so scary
      4. -3
        2 August 2019 10: 37
        The curators clutched at their rations with cash allowance, free apartments, early and serious pensions with free sanatoriums and travel to them .. Without a fight they would not give up their freebie at the expense of the working people.
    2. +6
      1 August 2019 08: 32
      But how many inadequacies crawled out into the street ... And what slogans did they put forward?
      The thought arises, but should we build a new channel?
      1. +3
        1 August 2019 08: 38
        There are less inadequate than photographers and police. However, they are all full-time, there is nothing new there. Yes, and I agree with you about the channel
      2. -5
        1 August 2019 08: 38
        Quote: Boris55
        And what slogans did they put forward?

        They wanted candidates who had put their signatures to be allowed to participate in the elections. And the truth is inadequate, as soon as you think of such a demand.
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 08: 43
          Quote: vasilii
          They wanted the candidates who collected the signatures

          Are you sure that the required signatures have been collected? Judging by the number of participants in the mess - hardly.
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            1. +2
              1 August 2019 09: 59
              Quote: vasilii
              Rejected - a person comes, says "this is my signature, I put it" - in response to him "the graphologist knows better. Are you a graphologist? Well, you see."

              Sorry, but they say there are many dead in the lists. At least you say that, but a deceased person cannot sign, but if it’s true to open it or not, a graphologist is not required.
              1. +2
                1 August 2019 10: 09
                Quote: svp67
                they say

                Can I have some examples? I can give specific examples about living people who have confirmed their signature and the graphologist who rejected it — Ilya Yashin’s signature (!) For Gudkov, Yekaterina Kiseleva’s signature for Gudkov. There are many hundreds of such cases - https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4034417
                1. -4
                  1 August 2019 10: 24
                  Quote: vasilii
                  There are hundreds of such cases -

                  A few percent false are enough to invalidate everything
                  1. +1
                    1 August 2019 10: 35
                    Well, there we have "scribbled" just enough so as not to miss. As if the candidates are so stupid people that 95% were collected honestly, and 5% were forged, as if on purpose, so that they were thrown out. But they could not even "scribble" normally, they thought of Yashin's signature in support of Gudkov to declare a fake. Around unprofessionalism.
                    1. -6
                      1 August 2019 10: 40
                      Quote: vasilii
                      that 95% were honestly collected, and 5% were falsified, as on purpose, so that they would not be allowed

                      This is just what they found. Gained 5% and stopped looking further.
                      And how many "climbed" it is known only to the counterfeiters themselves.
                      Simply put, those whose signatures were considered fake should go to court. Even a few statements will be enough to review the results of the audit.
                      1. +1
                        1 August 2019 10: 47
                        It has already been verified that this does not help - https://66.ru/news/politic/107551/
                        1. -1
                          1 August 2019 10: 55
                          Quote: vasilii
                          It has already been verified that this does not help - https://www.gazeta.ru/news/lastnews/2011/11/23/n_2107470.shtml

                          Well, yes, it is written in Russian in white that the Supreme Court declared it invalid.
                          As I understand it, the fact that the court decides in your favor is the truth. What is against you, lies and arbitrariness. So what?
                        2. +4
                          1 August 2019 11: 00
                          No, I believe that when a person personally testifies that he has signed, the graphologists deny this with a blue eye, and the court takes the side of the graphologists, then this is a lie and arbitrariness.
                        3. -6
                          1 August 2019 11: 05
                          Quote: vasilii
                          No, I believe that when a person personally testifies that he has signed, the graphologists deny this with a blue eye, and the court takes the side of the graphologists, then this is a lie and arbitrariness.

                          And where did you get this? In that link about it there is not a word
                        4. +4
                          1 August 2019 11: 13
                          https://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-359108.html

                          At the court session on November 7 several dozens were added to the case notarized statements of voterswho confirmed the validity of their signatures, and also more than 20 witnesses questioned from the side of the now restored candidate for deputies of the regional Duma.

                          (This is about the first court decision, which was later canceled by the Supreme Court with the help of graphologists.)
                        5. -5
                          1 August 2019 11: 29
                          Quote: vasilii
                          (This is about the first court decision, which was later canceled by the Supreme Court with the help of graphologists.)

                          Supreme Court. With the help of graphologists.
                          That says it all.
                        6. +7
                          1 August 2019 12: 12
                          That is, if you declare in court that your signature and you thereby fully confirm your intention to support the candidate, and the graphologist says no, then the graphologist is right !?
                        7. -7
                          1 August 2019 12: 30
                          Quote: Revival
                          That is, if you declare in court that your signature and you thereby fully confirm your intention to support the candidate, and the graphologist says no, then the graphologist is right !?

                          That is, I confirm that I trust the Supreme Court.
                          And I don’t trust liberal inventions
                        8. +6
                          1 August 2019 13: 04
                          The question is different:
                          The personal testimony and will of the signatory is stated in court, which graphologist may know better than you what you signed and whom you support. The signature is in this case an expression of support and the person personally confirms this intention
                        9. -4
                          1 August 2019 13: 14
                          You get confused yourself and try to confuse your opponent:

                          Quote: Revival
                          The personal testimony and will of the signatory is stated in court

                          This is "nothing", according to the law, the signature of the "signatory" is needed, and not his "expression".

                          Quote: Revival
                          which graphologist can know better than you what you signed and whom you support

                          Whom do you support - the graphologist is absolutely not interested. And to establish, including the authenticity of the signature - this is his work, the graphologist.

                          Quote: Revival
                          The signature is in this case an expression of support and ...

                          ... maybe, including fake. Disprove Yes

                          Quote: Revival
                          person confirms this intention personally

                          The signature had to be put - personally, and not from a hangover ... sorry my French.
                        10. +5
                          1 August 2019 13: 14
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          Quote: Revival
                          That is, if you declare in court that your signature and you thereby fully confirm your intention to support the candidate, and the graphologist says no, then the graphologist is right !?

                          That is, I confirm that I trust the Supreme Court.
                          And I don’t trust liberal inventions

                          That is, as you did yesterday, you ran out of arguments and chose the path "you said so on TV. And they have big heads, let them think I won't"? (yes yes, it's me, "comfrey" as you said)
                        11. -5
                          1 August 2019 13: 47
                          Quote: parma
                          That is, you ended up arguing just like yesterday

                          Yes, the arguments did not end yesterday. I simply realized that a person who does not want to see anything further than footcloths, to say that it is useless.
                          You have chosen the path "they said so on TV. And they have big heads, let them think, I will not"

                          Almost so.
                          I did not see non-signature sheets. I did not see the conclusion of the graphologist. I did not see the court decision on what basis he made the decision.
                          I only see the WORDS of the interested party.
                          That is why I trust the decision of the Supreme Court. What is incomprehensible here?
                          yes yes, it's me, "comfrey" as you said

                          And now I hold the same opinion.
                        12. +4
                          1 August 2019 14: 25
                          Quote: Lipchanin
                          I did not see non-signature sheets. I did not see the conclusion of the graphologist. I did not see the court decision on what basis he made the decision. I only see the WORDS of the interested party.


                          And I see only actions from both sides and I'll just leave it here, these are the people who came to defend "the faith and the temple in Yekaterinburg", people from the "RMK Martial Arts Academy" ... The temple that RMK is building ... The next day on their place was riot police .. I don’t think you knew about it, according to the TV version it was the opposite ... After all, they said that these demonstrators are aggressive, that it was they, and the temple was defended (though no one attacked him) only highly cultured and intellectual believers ... If you want supplements - look on the Internet for yourself ... But I think you and this video do not look like yesterday about GSSH-01, because what does not fit into your small world has no right to exist, which means lies and provocation ...
                        13. -1
                          1 August 2019 15: 00
                          Quote: parma
                          and I'll just leave it here, these are the people who came to defend "the faith and the temple in Yekaterinburg",

                          MASTERPIECE good laughing
                          As soon as there is nothing to say on the topic, we urgently jump over the liberoid training manual to another laughing
                          Where are the elections and where is the temple? laughing
                          And answered it
                          I did not see non-signature sheets. I did not see the conclusion of the graphologist. I did not see the court decision on what basis he made the decision.
                          I only see the WORDS of the interested party.

                          This must be managed to put everything in one pile laughing
                        14. +2
                          2 August 2019 01: 31
                          Where are the elections and where is the temple? The dude has a campaign of schizophrenia, jumping from one topic to another.
                        15. +2
                          1 August 2019 13: 25
                          Not a single direct answer from you.
                        16. -5
                          1 August 2019 13: 49
                          Quote: Revival
                          Not a single direct answer from you.

                          What "direct" are you waiting for? Which question?
                        17. +4
                          1 August 2019 13: 01
                          Something you juggle, let's be consistent.
                          1. It was said that the court trusts the graphologist, and not personally the person. You said this is not written
                          2. They showed you what is written. You say so.
                          Therefore, you agree that if you say in court that the signature is yours, that is, you confirm that you support this candidate, and the graphologist says that you do not support the signature, you do not support this candidate, then you are right to be incapable of recognizing your actions and desires! !!?
                        18. -9
                          1 August 2019 13: 13
                          I answered all questions.
                          Info was given out piece by piece. Therefore, this happened
                          But in any case, I trust the decision of the Supreme Court
                        19. +6
                          1 August 2019 13: 28
                          Well, if you admit that the graphologist knows your intention and thoughts better than you, then I can’t have questions for you even by virtue of the law))
                        20. -7
                          1 August 2019 14: 25
                          Quote: Revival
                          Well, if you admit that the graphologist knows your intention and thoughts better than you, then I can’t have questions for you even by virtue of the law))

                          I admit the decision of the Supreme Court, but not your distortion and verbiage
                        21. +3
                          1 August 2019 14: 41
                          Dude you're really weird (politely speaking). You know a guy who sang “I’m losing my roots”, look for him to tell us how he put his signature, she was rejected and he ran with statements to prove that he was not a camel. There, the signatures of mothers and relatives for the candidates were rejected. And you say trust the supreme court? Bravo
                        22. -3
                          1 August 2019 15: 03
                          Quote: Sasha ___
                          Dude

                          You are not on the arrow.
                          Say such words to your jerks.
                          Blatote is not going to answer.
                          Although you crap noble nonsense
          2. 0
            1 August 2019 14: 45
            Quote: Boris55
            Are you sure that the required signatures have been collected? Judging by the number of participants in the mess - hardly.

            judging because they started to restore candidates, you’re wrong
        2. +6
          1 August 2019 08: 45
          Quote: vasilii
          They wanted the candidates who collected the signatures to be allowed to participate in the elections.

          Did they collect them? If "yes" and they are confident, then go to court. In the end, they will receive at least monetary compensation for their "suffering". Or are they afraid that it will become known that there are too many "dead souls" on their lists?
          1. Don
            -3
            1 August 2019 10: 22
            Quote: svp67
            then go to court

            The most honest and humane court in the world? Direct to Judge Khakhaleva with a veterinary education or her colleagues? Or offer to the Basmanny court?
            No more ships! No coordination of rallies! This right of the people is enshrined in the Constitution. You need to go out in the hundreds of thousands and defend your RIGHT and, if necessary, by force.
            1. -4
              1 August 2019 10: 46
              Quote: Donskoy
              and defend their RIGHT and, if necessary, by force.

              The right to lawlessness? A place was allocated, they did not go there. Isn't that breaking the law?
              No one will give you anything to do by force. Russia is not Sumeria. People see how the Maidan ends.
              And more careful about "force". Nobody has canceled the article of the Criminal Code yet
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 11: 46
                Quote: Lipchanin
                No one will give you anything to do by force. Russia is not Sumeria. People see how the Maidan ends.

                In fact of the matter. I perfectly understand that the government is not angels, the laws are not always adequate, and their implementation is not necessary for everyone, which is the most offensive.
                But! Arranging what destroyed a neighboring country at home is not to be allowed.
                How can you follow those who deliberately violate the law put the child ahead? And look at how many youth there are. It is easiest for them to tell how their state offended. Brainwash and take advantage.
                Do you really think that people who gained power in these ways will worry about their people?
                1. -4
                  1 August 2019 12: 15
                  Quote: Waltasar
                  Do you really think that people who gained power in these ways will worry about their people?

                  Parashinskaya junta has already shown this.
                  Others will be no better. The times of romantics are over. Now they are torn to power for the sake of the feeder and therefore hate those who do not allow them to this feeder
              2. +6
                1 August 2019 13: 09
                Well, a law will be introduced that those who receive less than a billion from that day are slaves. Support?
                But those who disagree will be against the law, therefore they are not right!
                You will accordingly support this law. After all, you can’t decide for yourself the right law or not, this is the path to lawlessness.
                1. -4
                  1 August 2019 14: 34
                  Quote: Revival
                  Well, a law will be introduced that those who receive less than a billion from that day are slaves.

                  DE - MA - GOG !!!
                  The law is either there or not.
                  Bad or good, but it must be observed.
                  Failure to comply with the law, or its free interpretation leads to the Maidan, the collapse of the country, the civil war and the external Fashington administration.
                  You can't see it from the trench, and Sumeria teaches nothing
                  After all, you can’t decide for yourself the right law or not, this is the path to lawlessness.

                  But you don’t have to decide for yourself whether it is right or wrong.
                  The charter is the same law. Are you discussing the charter?
                  The commander’s order is also law. Do you discuss your orders?
                  Now imagine what will happen if everyone interprets the law (charter, order) in his own way and in his own way. What will happen to the country?
                  That's right, Sumeria with her civil war. And all because they didn’t give a damn about the laws
                  1. -1
                    1 August 2019 15: 09
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    The law is either there or not.
                    Bad or good, but it must be observed.

                    namely, including the police
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    The commander’s order is also law.

                    At the Nuremberg trial, all the defendants also said so, we obeyed the order
                    1. +1
                      1 August 2019 17: 01
                      Quote: Silvestr
                      At the Nuremberg trial, all the defendants also said so, we obeyed the order

                      Let’s completely abide by the law. Anarchy wanted?
                  2. +3
                    1 August 2019 16: 32
                    South African apartheid was legal, blacks in the state were forbidden to take white places under the law, the Nazis complied with the laws that they themselves wrote.
                    1. -1
                      1 August 2019 17: 02
                      Do you propose to abandon laws altogether?
                      1. +2
                        1 August 2019 17: 24
                        Well, you, by no means. Just voicing the negative side of legislative procedures. I have no proposals for such situations.
                    2. +1
                      2 August 2019 01: 41
                      Quote: forty-eighth
                      South African apartheid was legal

                      How are things now in South Africa? Take an interest at your leisure ...
                      Going down to Johannesburg, from the height of a plateau, the city looks very wow.
                      Beautiful, large, modern. Many high-rise buildings, many English parks. Beautiful Victorian buildings catch your eye. Green lawns, blue sky.
                      When we drove inside, the picture was not so rosy.
                      The city is abandoned.
                      There is no electricity.
                      Garbage is not taken out.
                      Sewerage does not work.
                      Only roads for transport are cleared and only traffic lights work.
                      Moreover, it was still only in the center, where you can drive through the street and where there are guarantees that they will not crash.
                  3. -1
                    1 August 2019 17: 52
                    Why de maogog?
                    You finally said bluntly that if a law is passed under which you will be considered a slave, then you would rather agree to be a slave than to violate such a law.
                    I acknowledge your right to live like that.
                    For myself, I do not accept your position.
                    After such an answer, the questions to you have disappeared, we just proceed from completely different initial points of view.
                    I, unlike you, do not agree to be a slave even if they adopt such a law.
                  4. 0
                    2 August 2019 16: 28
                    After such tirades, I immediately remember Nazi Germany. There they introduced a law stating that it is necessary to destroy "inferior" members of society and they began to poison them in gas vans. Pedantic Germans agreed, because the law is the law and it must be observed. After that, a law was introduced according to which all Jews, gypsies, Slavs, etc. subject to destruction. Pedantic Germans agreed, because the law is the law and it must be observed. And then (and you apparently forgot about it) introduced a law according to which, on the territory of at least my country, it was allowed to rob, rape, kill, burn entire villages (Khatyn is far from the only example, remember?), To destroy us as a people. Tens of millions of my compatriots were killed, including in the most savage ways in concentration camps.

                    And then in Nünrberg, for the execution of these laws and for the execution of the orders of the commanders, a verdict was passed and the Germans to this day repent that they followed the laws of their country and justifying this, just like you, "The law is either there or not, it it is either good, but it must be observed. "," but it is not necessary to decide whether it is right or wrong. " And the other (small) part of the Germans who themselves decided that the laws, like the Nazis themselves, are recognized as bad heroes, both here and there.
                    1. +1
                      3 August 2019 08: 17
                      Quote: rait
                      After such tirades, I immediately recall Nazi Germany.

                      What do you remember when complete lawlessness begins?
                      Well, not everyone will comply with the laws. All. Well, or selectively.
                      How will you differ from criminals who spit on the law?
                      Continue on without me
                      1. -1
                        3 August 2019 10: 57
                        An excellent example of demagoguery is thesis substitution. Where did I campaign for "total lawlessness"? Nowhere, that's why you invented this "straw scarecrow" and you yourself dispute it.

                        How will you differ from criminals who spit on the law?


                        The criminal is not the one who spits on the law, but the one who does it to the detriment of others and the whole of society. The Nazis, for example, were absolutely law-abiding (your ideal), but they did not stop being criminals from this. On the contrary, the resistance movement was criminals, in violation of the laws of Nazi Germany, they saved people and opposed the genocide and they are remembered as heroes.
                  5. 0
                    3 August 2019 07: 33
                    Whether he is good or bad, but it must be observed. And it is not necessary to decide for himself whether he is right or wrong.
                    Fabulous d ..... b! Have you heard about Hitler and the Germans? They also obeyed the laws.
                    1. 0
                      3 August 2019 07: 44
                      Quote: plebs
                      Have you heard about Hitler and the Germans? They also obeyed the laws.

                      Turn on the rest of the moss.
                      Now I do not care about the law and it occurred to me to rob and kill everyone in a row.
                      Who will be the first to remember the law ???
                      Who will run to mentovka for protection ???
                      And they will be answered there, we do not comply with the Police Law, we do not like it.
                      In the army they spit on the Charter. And the Charter is also the Law.
                      And why do orders follow? I don’t give a damn about them. They ordered me to defend the border, but I don’t give a damn, I need a woman.
                      So which of us is FABULOUS d .... beat?
                      They told me a fairy tale about slavery, I told you the same.
                      Which is better?
                2. 0
                  3 August 2019 02: 25
                  Well, a law will be introduced that those who receive less than a billion from that day are slaves.

                  Do you really believe that the current government will adopt "such a law" ???
                  I personally doubt it very much.
                  This is already yours from the realm of fiction.
                  And I said this softly so as not to offend you. feel
                  1. 0
                    4 August 2019 01: 08
                    I admit that you missed the main point, being too attached to the momentary topic, the point was to find out the person’s position, how much he absolutizes the adopted law (any) and whether he will exceed the bar of common sense, honor, etc.
                    1. 0
                      4 August 2019 02: 08
                      I admit that you missed the main point, being too attached to the momentary topic,

                      Sorry, but you did not see my quotes.
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            3. +1
              1 August 2019 22: 18
              Quote: Donskoy
              You need to go out in the hundreds of thousands and defend your RIGHT and, if necessary, by force.

              This is good, but will you uphold the same RESPONSIBILITIES by force?
          2. +3
            1 August 2019 12: 13
            So if in a court the graphologist is to the right of the signatory himself personally, then suing is a dead end
          3. +1
            1 August 2019 12: 20
            Quote: svp67
            Did they collect them?

            A counter question - did they want to collect them, or did they need an information feed for the "booze"?
            I myself am far from being a "confused", but I do not exclude that they have collected even more signatures than necessary (admit - the protest moods are great, but not enough to qualitatively change the politician), and then - those "watching" the candidates reduced the number to 5-6 thousand, and even diluted them with painted ones to create a scandal and an escalation of protest. At the same time, I do not deny certain facts of violations by the IPCC.
            1. -4
              1 August 2019 12: 58
              Quote: DigitalError
              and then - the "overseers" of the candidates reduced the number to 5-6 thousand, and even diluted them with painted ones to create a scandal and an escalation of protest.

              No, that was not so. Actually, those watching the Kremlin turned a multi-way route and created the appearance that those watching the opposition candidates wanted to provoke, and thus they rallied the patriotic public in front of the threat from the fifth column. Now, right now.
              1. 0
                1 August 2019 13: 27
                Quote: vasilii
                Now, right now

                Too tricky - don't you find? smile
                1. -3
                  1 August 2019 13: 32
                  No more cunning than any other conspiracy theories, and justifiably justifiable.
          4. -2
            1 August 2019 14: 46
            Quote: svp67
            then go to court.

            have you participated in the courts? I have 3 ships experience. At the entrance to the court, you need to hang up a sign - "everyone who enters has hope to remain." Courts are the decision makers in our life.
        3. +8
          1 August 2019 08: 52
          Quote: vasilii
          Quote: Boris55
          And what slogans did they put forward?

          They wanted candidates who had put their signatures to be allowed to participate in the elections. And the truth is inadequate, as soon as you think of such a demand.

          Let them go to court. And they prove there that they were removed from the elections illegally. Something NOBODY !!! of them did not do this.
          1. -9
            1 August 2019 08: 58
            They are now serving administrative staff. They filed many lawsuits before and won on reaching the ECHR.

            And what elections will be dishonest you as a voter does not care at all?
            1. +2
              1 August 2019 08: 59
              Quote: vasilii
              They are now serving administrative staff. They filed many lawsuits before and won on reaching the ECHR.

              And what elections will be dishonest you as a voter does not care at all?

              Where are these "many times"?
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                1. +4
                  1 August 2019 09: 08
                  Quote: vasilii
                  https://www.google.com/search?&q=навальный+еспч

                  Well, what does this have to do with the elections to the MHD ?! You read the essence of the initial claim in this lawsuit.
                  1. -13
                    1 August 2019 09: 11
                    I have already said about the elections to the MHD - they are sitting under the administrators. They will leave, serve, win (with a very high probability, judging by the history of previously won cases), receive compensation. But you, as a voter, have fair elections stolen. Are you okay?
                    1. +10
                      1 August 2019 09: 14
                      Quote: vasilii
                      I have already said about the elections to the MHD - they are sitting under the administrators. They will leave, serve, win (with a very high probability, judging by the history of previously won cases), receive compensation. But you, as a voter, have fair elections stolen. Are you okay?

                      And why are you throwing me links about the ECHR, where not about the elections, but about the lawsuit about Lesha's scam with "Yves Rocher"?
                      1. -12
                        1 August 2019 09: 16
                        It is clear, you are okay. Congratulations, you are the perfect voter. The same "electorate".
                        1. +9
                          1 August 2019 09: 18
                          Quote: vasilii
                          It is clear, you are okay. Congratulations, you are the perfect voter. The same "electorate".

                          What are the norms? What is it about? I just don’t have to ride on my ears.
                        2. -1
                          1 August 2019 12: 19
                          Apparently they write to you that filing a lawsuit will ideally give the following picture:
                          Compensation won by the court, and the elections have already passed without them, they were not on the lists.
                          What to do with it?
                          This problem is more important for society and a thinking voter than personal compensation to someone.
                          The voter who wanted to support them, what should he do? Not in the next election, but right now?
                        3. +2
                          1 August 2019 12: 47
                          Quote: Revival
                          Apparently they write to you that filing a lawsuit will ideally give the following picture:
                          Compensation won by the court, and the elections have already passed without them, they were not on the lists.
                          What to do with it?
                          This problem is more important for society and a thinking voter than personal compensation to someone.
                          The voter who wanted to support them, what should he do? Not in the next election, but right now?

                          They were denied BEFORE the elections. At the preparation stage. There was more than enough time to sue. But instead, the "victims" began preparations for the "protests" and none of them went to court. Although, I repeat, there was plenty of time for that. And besides, it was the only legal way out.
                        4. -1
                          1 August 2019 13: 54
                          I will explain:
                          The purpose and legal law is participation in elections.
                          The end of the trial, even a positive one, may in time be outside the scope of the election.
                          How can they participate in elections if they prove in court that they are unacceptable illegally? What to do with this won court decision, hang in a frame?
                          And here just an interesting mechanism is drawn.
                          Logically, the law should provide a mechanism for their participation in the elections, if they proved in court that they were dismissed illegally, but this is not, which leads to reflection.
                          It turns out that the law, of course quite by accident, was written so that you can remove those who do not like it, send them to court, and hold elections without them. And voila ... give them 2 rubles in compensation. It is done. It looks like mockery and laughter in the face.
                          Therefore, since you send them to the court, the question arises, how do you propose later to restore their violated rights later? Otherwise, the advice to go to court is a dead end.
                          Imagine, for example, a person sentenced to death who has the right to appeal through the court, but is shot immediately, but then if the sentence is canceled, then they posthumously give monetary compensation, is it a normal construction, without a pre-laid catch?
                        5. -3
                          1 August 2019 17: 57
                          When there was nowhere to turn off, you decided to simply not answer?
                        6. +1
                          1 August 2019 18: 11
                          I explain: they don’t go to court because I know perfectly well about the LEGALITY of their removal from elections. They know very well that their signatures are Fake.
                    2. +2
                      1 August 2019 10: 03
                      If it were my will, I would have shot them altogether and buried them in nameless graves. I’d better feed the alligators.
                      1. Don
                        -3
                        1 August 2019 10: 44
                        And if they are you? You will scream and me for what?
                        1. 0
                          3 August 2019 08: 42
                          Who are these snot yes you look at how they pretend that you yourself who held the weapon in your hands or are also evading the army.
                      2. 0
                        1 August 2019 12: 19
                        Why - I would have sent for forced labor, all the nonsense would have gone out of my head, together with the forces for something else.
            2. +4
              1 August 2019 09: 09
              ECHR we have is the ultimate truth?
              1. -13
                1 August 2019 09: 15
                No, this is just a court of last resort.
                1. +7
                  1 August 2019 10: 57
                  Where was the ECHR court when Gaddafi and Sadam were executed or when the Serbs were slaughtered?
                  1. +3
                    1 August 2019 16: 07
                    Quote: Squelcher
                    Where was the ECHR court when Gaddafi and Sadam were executed or when the Serbs were slaughtered?

                    Clintonsha celebrated.
            3. +4
              1 August 2019 11: 11
              A must serve a criminal! For organizing riots.
              1. -6
                1 August 2019 15: 23
                Read the article about the riots.
                The organization of mass riots, accompanied by violence, pogroms, arson, destruction of property, the use of weapons, explosive devices, explosive, poisonous or other substances and objects that pose a danger to others, as well as the provision of armed resistance to a government representative

                It was an absolutely peaceful procession of people, your compatriots among other things, who were deprived of their legal rights. If all the "patriots" did this, then in the country they would not steal wagons and forests would not burn in Belgium
                1. +3
                  1 August 2019 16: 13
                  Quote: Sasha ___
                  If all the "patriots" did this, then in the country they would not steal wagons and forests would not burn in Belgium

                  So can you, instead of mass riots, start putting out the taiga? Or have you reserved this honorable mission exclusively for patriots. In your opinion, forest fires are also a direct consequence of the "irremovability of power"? It would be worthwhile to gather all these "protesters" and send them to extinguish that very taiga, they would bring at least some benefit in their lives.
                2. 0
                  1 August 2019 17: 07
                  Quote: Sasha ___
                  It was an absolutely peaceful procession of people

                  Peaceful?
                  . Knives, hammers and gas masks seized from individual participants in the last rally (July 27)

                  They just walked like that, but for no reason they attacked and beat them? laughing
                  You at least watch a video about these "peaceful" in the article.
                  OH, I forgot, "they are!"
                  1. -3
                    1 August 2019 17: 30
                    Sorry, I can’t perceive you as nonsense. If you think that there were riots, please show where there were arsons, destruction of property, use of weapons of the 27th. If you don’t, be honest, admit the truth and shut up.
                    And so, at the level of kindergarten logic - mass and individual are antonyms. By indicating that certain representatives had something (that still needs to be verified) you refute the mass character.
        4. +2
          1 August 2019 09: 57
          Quote: vasilii
          They wanted candidates who had put their signatures to be allowed to participate in the elections.

          They were given a place. They did not go there. This is already a violation of the law.
          1. Don
            -1
            1 August 2019 10: 47
            Quote: Lipchanin
            They were given a place. They did not go there.

            And they did it right. In place of Navalny and the Communist Party, I would not have agreed on rallies at all, but would simply notify the city hall in advance of the proposed location and that’s all. This law on rallies is unconstitutional and undemocratic in nature. Let the slaves coordinate with the fabulous each of their sneezes. Life does not stand still and, sooner or later, Russia will be freed from the oligarchic occupation.
            1. +3
              1 August 2019 11: 06
              Quote: Donskoy
              In place of Navalny and the Communist Party, I would not have agreed on rallies at all, but would simply notify the city hall in advance about the proposed location

              By analogy: someone notifies you that tomorrow he will have a booze (rowdy attached) in your apartment. Your actions?
            2. -3
              1 August 2019 11: 33
              Quote: Donskoy
              Quote: Lipchanin
              They were given a place. They did not go there.

              And they did it right. In place of Navalny and the Communist Party, I would not have agreed on rallies at all, but would simply notify the city hall in advance of the proposed location and that’s all. This law on rallies is unconstitutional and undemocratic in nature. Let the slaves coordinate with the fabulous each of their sneezes. Life does not stand still and, sooner or later, Russia will be freed from the oligarchic occupation.

              One in one tracing paper of the Maidan slogans.
              It’s clear that the ears stick out from one place, the Phasington Regional Committee
              Deserved
              1. 0
                1 August 2019 14: 49
                Quote: Lipchanin
                One in one tracing paper of the Maidan slogans.
                It’s clear that the ears stick out from one place, the Phasington Regional Committee


                These too? Can they be shot for your peace of mind?
                1. -2
                  1 August 2019 17: 08
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  Can they be shot for your peace of mind?

                  They were then shot at 37 by the Bolsheviks
            3. +5
              1 August 2019 11: 53
              Quote: Donskoy
              Russia will be freed from the oligarchic occupation.

              Sorry, but where in the countries of the West so beloved by everyone is this oligarchic occupation not?
              Quote: Donskoy
              sooner or later, Russia will be free

              Once, with such slogans, the tsar was overthrown and his family shot in the basement ... How many people died in the civil war to recall?
              1. -2
                1 August 2019 21: 52
                Yes, a lot, but sometimes you even have to pay such a high price unfortunately! We lost a lot in the Second World War, but no one says that we had to give up!
                1. +2
                  1 August 2019 22: 30
                  Quote: bondrostov
                  Yes a lot, but sometimes you need to pay even such a high price unfortunately

                  That's just sometimes the price is more expensive than the result. And sometimes there can be no result at all.
            4. 0
              1 August 2019 12: 26
              Unfortunately, our constitution is practically depreciated if it is possible to adopt a law of the type based on it, but completely crossing it out.
              How can one logically put into one coordinate system the right to assemble freely in the constitution and the right to assemble as permitted by law !?
              Previously, the law contained a requirement to notify them, it was just logical and correlated with the text of the constitution.
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 13: 24
                Quote: Revival
                How can one logically put into one coordinate system the right to assemble freely in the constitution and the right to assemble as permitted by law !?

                Well, where are the contradictions?
                The law does not prohibit gathering.
                The law prohibits doing so wherever the organizers think.
                We need to think not only about the demonstrators, but also about other people.
                And permission is needed just for that.
                1. -1
                  2 August 2019 11: 29
                  Do you have any contradictions between the concepts of Notification and PERMISSION? Do you think they are synonyms?
        5. 0
          1 August 2019 18: 19
          They wanted candidates who had put their signatures to be allowed to participate in the elections.
          Who now collects signatures, they are bought.
      3. -8
        1 August 2019 09: 31
        This is how many inadequate crawled out into the street ...

        "Inadequate"? And you mean "adequate"? Well, once again in the morning, repeat your speech in front of the icon of "Solceliky": "Russia-people-Putin" - so to speak, to confirm your "adequacy" ... Yes
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 10: 39
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Monster_Fat

          I don’t understand - what, to you, a resident of the States, Putin didn’t please request
          1. -4
            1 August 2019 10: 49
            As a "resident of the States", Putin really, even "pleased" me. He "chose the right president" for us and the president, kicked our "dem-shiza" from the elections ... and in general, he helps support the military-industrial complex, where many US citizens are provided with jobs laughing And in general, the longer he is president in Russia, the better the "States". So, personally, I wish him health and longevity and that he will be with his ... (it is clear - with whom wink ) ruled Russia ... Yes
            1. +3
              1 August 2019 11: 03
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              the longer he is president in Russia, the better the "States"

              Uh-huh ... only your opinion for some reason does not coincide with the opinion of the leadership of those very "States".
              Man, since they’re already trolling, do it at least as competently as possible. request
      4. -4
        1 August 2019 09: 36
        How would you not be sent to this construction site. Or do you think you will force liberoids to work there?)
        1. -4
          1 August 2019 09: 45
          Putinoids and demshiza need, like Stalin all Trotskyists, Zinovievites, Bukharinites, to drive to camps alone, they argue on the bunk.))))
          1. -1
            1 August 2019 10: 16
            Yes, it was. Sitting and each on the arc blamed the Socialist-Revolutionaries on the Mensheviks, the Trotskts on the Zinovievites. And they finally took a shovel and pick for the first time in their lives in the camp. Both those and others are "good" What edrosy, that demshiza.
          2. 0
            1 August 2019 12: 22
            The time will come and you will be in the labor camp, along with putinoidami and other demshizami - well, so for the company.
      5. 0
        1 August 2019 09: 55
        Quote: Boris55
        The thought arises, but should we build a new channel?

        Moscow Magadan
        1. -3
          1 August 2019 14: 47
          So go and build. Show the liberals how you love your homeland.
        2. -2
          1 August 2019 15: 14
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Moscow Magadan

          Before you build a channel, you must have adequate power. Well, dispersed, beaten. Is the problem gone? No, it is multiplying. There is no dialogue between the authorities and the population.
          Same. that with the Moscow City Duma craned in Sevastopol. Aren't you afraid that more passionate Sevastopolites will stand on their hind legs? Or also, with batons, the heroes of the Crimean spring? Weak?
          Go to the pro-Russian site of Sevastopol- read what people write.
          Maybe the mind will come to mind

          1. 0
            3 August 2019 17: 06
            Quote: Silvestr
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Moscow Magadan

            Before you build a channel, you must have adequate power. Well, dispersed, beaten. Is the problem gone? No, it is multiplying. There is no dialogue between the authorities and the population.
            Same. that with the Moscow City Duma craned in Sevastopol. Aren't you afraid that more passionate Sevastopolites will stand on their hind legs? Or also, with batons, the heroes of the Crimean spring? Weak?
            Go to the pro-Russian site of Sevastopol- read what people write.
            Maybe the mind will come to mind


            Thank. I really liked the saying
            "kulek1". Right to the point.
            "annexation". Yes
      6. +5
        1 August 2019 09: 56
        Quote: Boris55
        This is how many inadequate crawled out into the street ...

        A lot of. Interestingly, more than a half detainees are "inadequate" turned out to be newcomers... Someone paid for their travel and accommodation, someone met them, placed them and sent them to the boil in an organized manner, someone provided video recording. So this event cannot be called a spontaneous "spiritual" impulse of the masses. Ordered and paid for by wallets from outside, and executed in good faith by the local librarian. The Chechen-Ingush land issue, the construction of a temple in Yekaterinburg, the construction of a garbage processing plant in Shies, the refusal to register candidates from the liberota, all these are "trial balloons" for organizing larger actions to implement the Russian Maidan with an expanded geography. Along the way, they have already appointed the local "Guaido", since Trump promised to "figure out" why Lyosha Zavalny was offended.
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 11: 41
          The most interesting thing is that the same faces flash in all these gangways. Coincidence? Professional guardians for the fate of the country?
          1. +2
            1 August 2019 11: 45
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            The most interesting thing is that the same faces flash in all these gangways. Coincidence?

            I do not think hi
            Quote: AS Ivanov.
            Professional guardians for the fate of the country?
            The State Duma keepers are working out salaries.Yes
        2. -5
          1 August 2019 14: 50
          And among the police and city leaders, you did not count the visitors? And how did they count? If by registration, it’s like smoking chickens in Moscow then. Besides the fact that our visitors are not citizens or something? Change the training manual
          1. +2
            1 August 2019 17: 35
            Quote: Sasha ___
            And among the police and city leaders, you did not count the visitors? And how did they count? If by registration, it’s like smoking chickens in Moscow then. Besides the fact that our visitors are not citizens or something? Change the training manual

            "Saw Shura, saw. They are golden" (Ilf and Petrov "The Golden Calf")
      7. +4
        1 August 2019 10: 13
        Quote: Boris55
        The thought arises, but should we build a new channel?

        These have a maximum physical. load - knock on the "keyboard". So ditch at best!
      8. -3
        1 August 2019 15: 35
        Quote: Boris55
        But how many inadequacies crawled out into the street ... And what slogans did they put forward?
        The thought arises, but should we build a new channel?


        People demanded that opposition candidates be elected to the polls. Is this not legal or bad in your opinion?
        1. +3
          1 August 2019 15: 41
          People were taken out to allow certain people to the trough. So rather.
          1. -2
            1 August 2019 18: 30
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            People were taken out to allow certain people to the trough. So rather.


            You say to the trough, but after all pigs eat other animals from the trough. Are you hinting that now those who are in power are eating from the trough? Have you insulted the authorities?
            1. +3
              1 August 2019 19: 29
              And I am not happy with the authorities. Just out of three evils: pro-Western liberals, communists and the current government, I choose the current one. Like the least evil. And then who knows, maybe a worthy candidate will appear. Liberals and communists, please do not worry.
        2. -1
          1 August 2019 17: 10
          Quote: free
          People demanded that opposition candidates be elected to the polls.

          BLAWBABLE, with knives and hammers in backpacks?
          1. -1
            1 August 2019 17: 45
            Why do you hate the proletariat?
            1. -3
              1 August 2019 18: 27
              Quote: Sasha ___
              Why do you hate the proletariat?


              The cook is a bourgeois service staff. That's all.
    3. +3
      1 August 2019 08: 40
      And on the other hand, "clean and bright"!))) Under far-fetched pretexts, the real patriots Kvachkova, Chalov in Sevastopol and hundreds of candidates across the country were not allowed to take part in the elections, so get it and sign.
      By the way, it will be ridiculous if the hero of defense and the accession of Sevastopol Chaly will lead people out, and he is going to be denied appeals.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 09: 28
        Believe me, this shushera was not going to support Kvachkov and Chaly. For these candidates, the demshiz would not have brought a single person to the street. Although it’s a shame that real patriots were not allowed to the elections.
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 09: 44
          This is the tragedy that thousands go beyond demshiza, and true patriots, except for Sevastopol, can bring 100-300 people.
          1. Don
            -5
            1 August 2019 11: 16
            Quote: Nestorych
            and true patriots,

            By denying the Democrats this right, you, of course, consider yourself a true patriot? And what have you, real patriots, achieved and in compulsion to achieve from the authorities?
        2. 0
          1 August 2019 12: 41
          Well, why is it insulting, the technology also, so again right that they did not allow?
          Once one, then the other is correct, or do we have double standards in honor?
          It is precisely the cases with others that highlight the situation.
          Here it is necessary either to admit that manipulations are allowed with or without the admission of "who needs to", or to defend the point of view that everyone was rightly and justly not allowed.
          Well, or the third: to honestly cast aside the mask of upholding law and justice, and directly declare that I don’t like these, so I think that even if they are illegally not allowed, it’s still right. The position is not as comfortable as under the guise of justice, but honestly and impossible to blame for hypocrisy ...
      2. -1
        1 August 2019 15: 18
        Quote: Nestorych
        it will be ridiculous if the hero of defense and the annexation of Sevastopol Chaly leads people out, and he is going to be denied appeals.

        it will not be funny. Rosguard blizzard of Sevastopol! even Ukraine did not reach this!
        This means that the 2014 referendum will be covered by a copper basin with all the consequences. That's just euphoric it does not understand. It is dangerous for the authorities to impose lawlessness on the mainland in Crimea and Sevastopol.
    4. mvg
      +7
      1 August 2019 08: 41
      It seems that the conversation was about the modernization of BAM. And just then the workforce arrived in time.
      1. +7
        1 August 2019 09: 00
        BAM will be too fat for them. Now begins the construction of the Northern latitudinal railway. From Salekhard to Igarka. This is where they belong.
      2. -3
        1 August 2019 09: 46
        Why do liberals throw there. They will not cope with this matter. Better to send 76 percent to upgrade BAM to 65 years
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 10: 16
          Why do liberals throw there. They will not cope with this matter. Better to send 76 percent to upgrade BAM to 65 years

          These 76% built it, in contrast to the "dissatisfied", who did not hold anything harder than horseradish!
          1. -5
            1 August 2019 15: 20
            Quote: major147
            These 76% built it, in contrast to the "dissatisfied", who did not hold anything harder than horseradish!

            And what did this comrade build and hold in his hands?

            what spirituality in his look! Working! Creator! Thinker!
            1. +3
              1 August 2019 15: 35
              I’m afraid that without these comrades, you would be afraid to stick your nose out in the evening. About spirituality: it’s very difficult to rake shit with a spiritual face.
              1. -1
                1 August 2019 15: 39
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                I’m afraid that without these comrades, you would be afraid to stick your nose out in the evening.

                I’m afraid to walk next to you; I have experience with crime. I’m not afraid of them.
                Quote: AS Ivanov.
                About spirituality: it’s very difficult to rake shit with a spiritual face.

                people on the street and citizens of the country, albeit different views. - shit? Then create concentration camps, like-mindedness
            2. +3
              1 August 2019 16: 22
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: major147
              These 76% built it, in contrast to the "dissatisfied", who did not hold anything harder than horseradish!

              And what did this comrade build and hold in his hands?

              what spirituality in his look! Working! Creator! Thinker!

              This comrade preserves your personal, sovereign ass from an attempt on the part of various marginal elements. Apparently you have not been robbed for a long time that you forgot about the police mission, they work well, that they began to forget about the banditry of the 90s. Or are you keenly nagging around the Nord-Ost?
              By the way, without such "comrades", the bulk pogromists would have felt on their own carcass all the love of grateful fellow citizens.
              1. -2
                1 August 2019 16: 24
                Quote: Rededi
                about the banditry of the 90s began to forget

                и
                Quote: Rededi
                are you keen on nagging the northeast?

                porridge in your head. Compare.
                And you were on the Nord-Ost. by the way?
                Quote: Rededi
                This comrade preserves your personal, sovereign ass from an attempt on the part of various marginal elements.

                is it from whom? From the beaten? They did not threaten me
                1. +2
                  1 August 2019 16: 57
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  And you were on the Nord-Ost. by the way?

                  I was not at the play, I was "traveling" in the mountains at that time.
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  is it from whom? From the beaten? They did not threaten me

                  From bandits, whose existence you have safely forgotten, thanks, by the way, to these very comrades.
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  porridge in your head

                  You, apparently, know better, you are the "conscience of the nation." laughing
            3. +3
              1 August 2019 23: 28
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: major147
              These 76% built it, in contrast to the "dissatisfied", who did not hold anything harder than horseradish!

              And what did this comrade build and hold in his hands?

              what spirituality in his look! Working! Creator! Thinker!

              This comrade protects the law from lawlessness. And laws are good or bad - not to him. And before you criticize anyone, look at yourself. Make sure you are the crown of creation!
    5. +5
      1 August 2019 08: 44
      Che, to all appearances, the election commissions have gone crazy. From all sides: the liberals were removed from the elections, then the communists. And here in the Khabarovsk Territory they generally got crazy - a "prominent United Russia member" who became a self-nominated candidate was pushed back wassat Keep it up!
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 15: 36
        Quote: Dalny V
        election commissions peddled. From all sides: either liberals were removed from the election, then communists.

        yes because ..

        the grants came, but I don’t want to give up power. fearfully
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 16: 28
          Quote: Silvestr
          Quote: Dalny V
          election commissions peddled. From all sides: either liberals were removed from the election, then communists.

          yes because ..

          the grants came, but I don’t want to give up power. fearfully

          If cannons are the last argument of kings, then "smite picchi" are the last argument of liberda. laughing Bravo!!! Victory is near! May it come with you FORCE!!! laughing
    6. +4
      1 August 2019 08: 44
      The picture vividly recalled an episode of the movie "Men in Black" about testing the future agent Jay for aptitude:
      - Let me ask, why did you decide to kill baby Tiffany?
      “Only danger came from her.”
      “And where did you get that?”
      - ... Then I saw Tiffany. 8-year-old white girl, in the very center of the ghetto ... ... among monsters at night with books on quantum physics? She will start some garbage now - these books are too complicated for her! wassat
    7. -1
      1 August 2019 09: 02
      Another so-called opposition rally scheduled for August 3
      Who is appointed, if not secret?
      1. -1
        1 August 2019 09: 05
        Washington regional committee, what a secret. In vain or something 6,5 lard allocated.
    8. +7
      1 August 2019 09: 12
      Trouble came to our country. Forests are burning. Floods. Instead of at least throwing themselves in to help the victims, not to mention going to Siberia as a volunteer, these characters arrange a circus on the streets for the needs of Western journalists. imagine how cool it is when a young girl in decent clothes and make-up (wash) would read the constitution before the riot police. Directly immediately a photo in the room. Demtusovka mocks riot police. They taldychat that riot police have nothing for the soul except to wave a club. Calm down gentlemen. Everything has both tear gas and rubber bullets .. By the way, she’s learning from the Paris police.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 10: 01
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        Everything has both tear gas and rubber bullets .. By the way, she’s learning from the Paris police.
        In Paris, cars, tires, garbage cans are being burned - shops are being smashed, they are attacking the police hard, but we even had nothing close! So do not nod to Paris policies - there the level of tension of the confrontation is an order of magnitude higher, so the answer can be understood. And the demands of the protesters are much more radical - the government resigned. And here they demand that several candidates for the Moscow City Duma be allowed to participate in the elections, which does not essentially solve anything
      2. +1
        1 August 2019 10: 29
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        By the way, she is studying with the Paris police.

        Moscow

        Paris
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 12: 52
          Quote: major147
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          By the way, she is studying with the Paris police.

          Moscow
          ...
          Paris
          ...

          And let's send the masters of bulk and all sables to Paris. With Pavlensky, how successful it turned out. Yes, and with Nadia, too, did not turn out badly, by the way. As a result, they still sit.
          1. +2
            1 August 2019 13: 14
            Dmitriy! "Yes, and with Nadia, too, it did not work out badly, by the way. As a result, they still sit." This is you to the point. But he has experience. Authoritatively declared that the Russian prison is better than the Ukrainian one.
          2. +3
            1 August 2019 23: 22
            Quote: Shuttle
            And let's send the masters of bulk and all sables to Paris.

            There they will quickly be taught "democracy" like Pavlensky and "War".
      3. +1
        1 August 2019 11: 01
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        Trouble came to our country. Forests are burning. Floods. Instead of at least rushing to help the victims,

        So why the mayor Sobyanin didn’t throw it off, but maybe the "friends of the tsar", "rotenbergimillerssechiny" and the company threw themselves off ??? Sobyanin in Moscow for the five-year plan 13 billion rubles. rubles spent on curbs !!! laughing
        And now it turns out that the regional EMERCOM does not have enough equipment, people, special equipment! And where is "the best after the best" Buchkov, whom they quietly left for outright theft, felling the forest? laughing
        1. +2
          1 August 2019 11: 37
          Ashes: The Kremlin smelled smoke when almost everything burned out
          https://svpressa.ru/accidents/article/239591/
          They also sensed the “Smoke of the Fatherland” in the Kremlin, or rather, at first in the Government House on Krasnopresnenskaya embankment. Clutching his nose with a handkerchief, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev suggested ... to consult with countries that experience similar situations with forest fires, in particular in Europe and Alaska. “It’s not a sin to consult with those countries where this problem as well as ours exists in full growth. In Alaska, these fires are raging on a huge scale, and in Europe these fires are constant, ”the prime minister issued a proposal at a meeting in connection with the situation with fires in Siberia, noting that foreign colleagues have their own scientific approaches. “Have a consultation. I think in this situation this is not harmful at all, ”summed up Medvedev. Then he promised to think about the allocation of money to extinguish

          And now they will be promoting on all channels, as the authorities take measures !!! laughing
        2. +3
          1 August 2019 12: 13
          Normal people collect a petition for Sobyanin to give money for the improvement of Moscow to extinguish fires, although the fire does not extinguish with money. Take a look. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4047229 Others prefer to pour slop on the government for the cause or simply at the behest of the heart. By the way, for the second time I read groans from Muscovites about borders. But no one explains the essence of the matter, what borders, why he spent, if in vain - or something. Does not look like it. He visited Moscow on business in the nineties and now. Heaven and earth. Muscovites elementary snickering. And if so, then volunteering to help build dams would be a good thing. Not like pouring out your bile anonymously.
          1. +1
            1 August 2019 13: 49
            Michael, I’ll answer you about borders. Over the past 5 years, curbs and asphalt have been changed in our Moscow yard for the second time this year. The expenditures of the Moscow budget this year for these notorious borders are 2.5 billion rubles (from the Moscow press). The entire budget of the capital is about 2,5 trillion. rub. We don’t need it. I am ashamed of the rest of the Motherland for these damned borders. But the Sobyanin family (son-in-law) owns a factory for the production of this stone. We have stone curbs on the tracks - expensive and massive, almost like on the granite embankments of St. Petersburg. poured artificial marble all the exits of metro stations. Luzhkov even repaired roads in Russia, built houses in Sevastopol - this one isn’t.
            That's why about the curbs of caring Muscovites flies from the tongue.
          2. 0
            1 August 2019 23: 28
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Take a look. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4047229 Others prefer to pour slop on the government for the cause or simply at the behest of the heart.

            And you look at it!
            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1610754
            And here just there is Irina's wife, who at the place of Sobyanin's former service, in Tyumen, was called Ira Bordyur, because she seemed to belong to the Aerodromdorstroy company, which paved the Tyumen squares with tiles and framed the roads with granite curbs
            , there Sobyanin was also the mayor. laughing
            In Sochi, paving slabs are lovingly called pads, since there is an unshakable confidence that its production is the merit of the wife of the ex-mayor of Sochi, president of the Olympstroy state corporation Viktor Kolodyazhny.

            It is much easier and more extensive to "mark" tiled money than asphalt money. The cost of paving slabs is negligible, and the demand is quite high, especially if it is spurred on from the city hall. Therefore, being the owner or an unofficial controlling person of a tile factory, you can spend little and earn a lot by filling construction estimates absolutely correctly and objectively.

            "Great business"! Especially when financed from the budget !!!
            Give the barbs all over the country! laughing
        3. +2
          1 August 2019 12: 25
          13 billion for 5 years on the Moscow borders and paths - something like something at all about anything.
          1. -2
            1 August 2019 23: 14
            Quote: Vadim237
            13 billion for 5 years on the Moscow borders and paths

            This is only for the purchase of curbs, and "tracks" and installation, this is another item of Sobyanin's expenses.
            1. 0
              2 August 2019 01: 37
              Honestly, under Sobyanin in Moscow, it became better both in transport and in landscaping.
      4. -2
        1 August 2019 15: 22
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        Instead of at least rushing to the aid of the victims, not to mention going to Siberia as a volunteer,

        strangely reasoning. The state does not need forests, oligarchs do not fold to the country's needs, the Ministry of Emergencies is the strongest. Do you want ordinary people to solve financial issues at the state level?
      5. -2
        2 August 2019 11: 46
        This is you about those who were thrown into retirement and immediately thrown out of housing and they recorded a video for the president. Help! Diagnosis and disgrace!
    9. -3
      1 August 2019 09: 24
      It is clear Maidans, revolutions, they’re children, agents of the State Department, everything is as always. I would agree if people left without a reason ... but there is a reason to leave.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 09: 51
        Not for them to go out. The offspring of the Moscow party come out - and they, believe me, are very wealthy people. Where is the Communist Party? It would be normal leadership - people would follow them. And these were the workers who were touched. The same let them cope in Siberia.
        1. -3
          1 August 2019 10: 26
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          Where is the Communist Party?

          The leaders of the Moscow branch of the Communist Party, State Duma deputies Valery Rashkin and Denis Parfyonov, as well as the candidate [from the Communist Party] removed from the Moscow City Duma elections, Timur Abushaev expressed solidarity with the persecuted self-nominees and condemned the actions of the Moscow authorities, the Moscow City Electoral Commission and the Investigative Committee on Opposition to Oppositions. In a conversation with the Daily Storm, the Communists call the events in the capital chaos and advocate the registration of all self-nominated candidates.
          1. +5
            1 August 2019 12: 17
            But none of the opposition bothered to act honestly. If there is at least one "signature" of the deceased in the oppositionists' signature lists, then this is an elementary scam. This cannot be done accidentally. Such a candidate should be driven in the neck
            1. -2
              1 August 2019 12: 22
              I agree.

              It would also be nice if such high standards were applied not only to the opposition, but also to current politicians.
            2. 0
              1 August 2019 15: 24
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              Such a candidate must be driven to the neck

              and their Moscow city election committee restores. It turns out strange, don’t you? or all the same
              Quote: mikh-korsakov
              ... an elementary scam.

              in TICs?
      2. +4
        1 August 2019 10: 30
        Quote: GRIGORIY76
        but there is a reason to leave.

        And where is he not !?
        But there are legal ways.
        1. -3
          1 August 2019 12: 18
          Quote: major147
          But there are legal ways.

          Typical slavish thinking. What happens to wolves that are flagged and who are afraid to skip them?
          1. +5
            1 August 2019 12: 21
            Quote: kjhg
            Quote: major147
            But there are legal ways.

            Typical slavish thinking. What happens to wolves that are flagged and who are afraid to skip them?

            Oh how! That is, if those who want to rebel are allowed to do this in the established place, and they want to do it in your garden, then they are understandably "non-workers", and then who is the owner of the garden !?
            1. -4
              1 August 2019 12: 30
              The people are, according to the Constitution, the master! But these invaders, who again and again want to plant their thieves in the occupied territory as governors, not allowing representatives of the people to be elected, are usurpers of power and oppressors of the people. The right to rebellion is also known as the right to resist oppression, the right to revolution in political philosophy, the right of citizens by any means, up to and including armed struggle, to protect their rights and freedoms from usurpers. Refers to natural rights, that is, it does not require confirmation by the norms of positive law.
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 23: 18
                Quote: kjhg
                they want to plant their thieves in the occupied territory as governors

                So you urge instead of "their" thieves to plant their own? Hoping to get through to the trough?
    10. +3
      1 August 2019 09: 32
      With the "fat" rages .... party. Although they do not jump, they straightened their convolutions! This is how "technology" has leaped forward in eleven years.
      In principle, the authorities themselves raised this .... substance, there’s nothing to discuss here, to blame with the sick and the rotten, on .... yes, even sponsors from beyond the hill could not do this b, without action / inaction from the inside!
      But this is OUR ALL -
      Far from big cities
      Where there are no expensive boutiques,
      Other people live there,
      About which they do not sing at all.
      They don’t shoot series about them,
      They’re not in the channel format,
      And the Internet doesn’t write about them,
      They seem to be completely absent.
      They are young, but not students,
      They don't know "O'key", nor "Tape"
      They don’t go to sushi bars,
      And they do not sunbathe in tanning salons.
      They don’t have an expensive headset,
      They don’t give a damn about emo culture,
      Do not sit "In Contacts", on-line,
      They work on combines.
      I drank C2H5OH,
      I sat on the "Niva" Rostselmash,
      On DT, Don 500, T-150,
      I fed piglets before this.
      And the chill went to plow, thresh barley,
      Your working day will be long, long, long
      But then you know every screw in the tractor inside,
      You get three thousand a month for work.
      Combiners!
      Each of ...
      1. -5
        1 August 2019 12: 36
        Do you offer to be proud of people who have not seen life, do not know anything, but plow at someone else’s uncle for three thousand? Typical slave song negative Rasteryaev has quite a few other really good songs, but you chose this one.
        1. +5
          1 August 2019 12: 57
          Quote: kjhg
          You offer to be proud of people who have not seen life, do not know anything, but plow

          And how to evaluate a person who speaks so dismissively of OUR NURSEY?
          I am pleased to sit at the same table with COMBINERS, ANIMAL BREEDERS and other WORKERS, we will talk FOR LIFE .... they will be touched by any garbage, now fire. To me pere de Pantagruel not interesting at all.
          1. -5
            1 August 2019 13: 16
            And what did you cut out the words for three thousand, after the word plow, um? This is one of the key comments on this song, by the way. Why are combine harvesters, tractor drivers and other working people doomed to plow the Master for three copecks and can not afford anything? And why do they not respect themselves so much that they have come to terms with this position of new slaves? Here are my questions, and not at all disdain for their work. And at the same time you water with slop (nurtured this .... substance, With "fat" is enraged .... the party, although they do not jump, but they straightened their convolutions) the few of our active citizens who openly talk about these injustices and are ready to defend the freedom and rights of citizens, democracy and justice on the street? Because of your slavish way of thinking, you yourself do not want and cannot do this, but you do not allow others to do this either.
            1. +3
              1 August 2019 13: 54
              Quote: kjhg
              And what did you cut out the words for three thousand, after the word plow, um?

              Not relevant! Here for three thousand shchi a day, for combine operators, it will be more accurate. Seasonal work, how much has been plowed \ grown \ milled, for that all year you will live!
              The work of ALL, practically, of our workers is estimated cheaply !!! This is our reality.
              The owner is infinitely greedy, at the level of a gangster from a high road, and this power helps, cares about him, and not about the workers! This is their power!
              NEVER and ANYWHERE wrote otherwise!
              Quote: kjhg
              And at the same time, you pour slops (they nurtured it .... substance, C "fat" is furious .... the party, although they do not jump, but they straightened their convolutions) of our few active citizens who

              With all my "final love" for our upper ones, I do not see in the speeches of THIS OPPOSITION, no positive, constructive beginning .... climb on AWL, Schaub followed the same SOAP to the top ... the powers that be, the true masters of our country not dangerous from the word at all !!! only landmarks in young, fragile brains are completely knocked down!
              .... in general, I have already said a hundred times that it is futile to oppose someone in such a situation .... Schaub, although it would be better if it were better to UNITE FOR, and not kick against someone! And all the speakers would be forced to go through educational program according to the rules / methods of struggle of workers, citizens for their rights and a decent life! I don’t stutter about the revolutionary sales, there is nobody and nothing, BYe!
            2. +1
              1 August 2019 14: 15
              To defend freedom? Whose? Who authorized them to do this? Or maybe stick a snout to the trough? Unless, of course, the owner allows them.
    11. +5
      1 August 2019 09: 33
      You need to take an example from comrades from the Middle Kingdom. As soon as they chased the children with tanks in 1989, the economy went awry, well, in the sense of increased production. True, the Chinese children burned more than a dozen tanks, but nobody is interested in the west.
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 09: 46
        They burned the tanks an order of magnitude more, unfortunately (A. Fursov, google synologist). He visited China more than once, adequate people, they also come to us, without comment. China, in fine weather, can be seen from the window.
      2. -8
        1 August 2019 09: 51
        All the people do not pass
        1. +7
          1 August 2019 09: 57
          And where did you see the people on these covens? Those who stand there do not sow and do not plow.
          1. -7
            1 August 2019 10: 06
            Just there was the people. And those who do not sow and do not plow sit in the government, the State Duma and with batons disperse rallies
            1. +4
              1 August 2019 11: 22
              Are foreign citizens also our people? It is very interesting what they did there, as well as with whose filing they got there.
              1. -5
                1 August 2019 11: 28
                Are citizens of the Russian Federation foreign to you?
                1. +4
                  1 August 2019 11: 31
                  Among this riffraff there were many foreign citizens. So the question arises: how and for what purpose did they get there? And who is the organizer of this action?
                2. -6
                  1 August 2019 11: 35
                  What are foreign citizens? Have you been to the rally? Did you see them? Or did they tell you this on TV?
          2. +2
            1 August 2019 17: 43
            And the phones of robots are no more than 5000
        2. +3
          1 August 2019 11: 03
          The people are not, and the rot is radically liberoid yes.
      3. -4
        1 August 2019 10: 02
        Quote: asiat_61
        As soon as they chased the children with tanks in 1989, the economy went down with them, well, in terms of production growth

        the economy was run down not because of tanks, but because of the reforms that the Chinese leadership carried out. Everything is fine with us, according to the authorities, nothing needs to be changed.
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 12: 05
          If Deng Xiaoping didn’t roll out the students on tanks, then with greater probability there would be no reforms.
      4. -5
        1 August 2019 10: 23
        For 5 years now the economy has not been rushing, who will we push?
        1. -2
          1 August 2019 13: 14
          Have you noticed the difference between the posts of the so-called "kremlebots" and those who have been nicknamed "liberoids"? "Liberoids" - those require one-change of the "darkest", because they stayed too long in the "tsars", and the "kremlebots" demand-to plant in the Gulag, to shoot all those who are against the "darkest". Type they are "liberoids, it means" non-people ", why feel sorry for them. It's normal, yes, to call for the planting and murder of those who are against the Kremlin's policy, they are already, a priori" non-people "- since they" disagree "and they have one way to go to Siberia in the camp or “against the wall.” “Funny” thinking, which has not changed at all since 1935-37, “there is no man and there is no problem.” And most importantly: many “patriots” consider this formulation of the question “normal” and even “necessary” ". sad
        2. 0
          1 August 2019 15: 01
          GDP is growing by 5-6 trillion rubles every year.
      5. -2
        1 August 2019 12: 42
        Quote: asiat_61
        As soon as they had crushed the children by tanks in 1989, so their economy went down, well, in the sense of production growth.

        In neighboring Ukraine today, the economy also began to grow. But before that it was May 2 in Odessa, where dozens of people were burned. There were still thousands of executed people in the Donbass. In your opinion, because of this, is their economy growing? fool
        Quote: asiat_61
        You need to take an example with comrades from the Middle Kingdom

        In China, corrupt officials in power are shot in the square, and do not give them the title of heroes and promotions. Maybe for economic recovery it is necessary to start from this, and not from Odessa on May 2?
    12. +2
      1 August 2019 09: 34
      Earlier, US President Donald Trump said that "he will deal with Navalny’s health, which has worsened after his arrest."

      Donald Trump is still that doctor wassat
      And about the unauthorized rallies ... little broke. Stubborn hamsters need to be treated, and provocateurs planted for real terms, not administrative ones, then the remaining ones will turn on the brain and act in the legal field, rather than arrange a booze.
      1. +6
        1 August 2019 10: 39
        Quote: Pacifist
        and not make a booze.

        At the beginning of the century, they did not like the king. Overthrown! Received decades of devastation and millions of deaths. Here is a cherished dream! But no, I don't like it. Overthrown in 91! We got a decade of devastation, thousands (if not millions) died, but they got their way! No I do not like! Let's overthrow !? What do we get? And the West rubs its hands, they have not had anything like that during this time, so, little things. In "whose tune" are the constant "overthrowers" blowing? Look for someone who benefits.
        1. -3
          1 August 2019 16: 21
          Major, you unwittingly exalt the dump as a person who is capable of "overthrowing" and claiming something. He is still taking advantage of his loneliness. Although even without him, the people spontaneously rise without any permission.
          ] Even under Yeltsin, this was not observed. He left himself. How do you perceive it yourself? Remember. I do not think that grief was unlimited and his act was evaluated as a betrayal.
          Quote: major147
          Seek someone profitable.

          Well, and to whom !?
          1. +3
            1 August 2019 23: 34
            Quote: shura7782
            Remember.

            I remembered. I had no time to "perceive". That night, like the others with the company entrusted to me near Gekhi - Chu, I fought off the "spirits" that were going from the mountains to Basayev to Grozny to help him.
            1. 0
              5 August 2019 11: 48
              I would like to frankly, for cleanliness, and you Major, decided to unobtrusively trump.
              In vain. You are not the only one.
              I dealt with spirits in Bagram much earlier than yours. And in that situation everything is perceived many times sharper. Therefore, my question is not closed.
              1. 0
                5 August 2019 14: 34
                Quote: shura7782
                Therefore, my question is not closed.

                There are two questions that specifically interest you more?
                1. 0
                  5 August 2019 16: 42
                  Quote: major147
                  which specifically interests you more?

                  Your answer to the first question. How did you personally accept Yeltsin’s resignation?
                  1. +1
                    6 August 2019 21: 44
                    Quote: shura7782
                    Quote: major147
                    which specifically interests you more?

                    Your answer to the first question. How did you personally accept Yeltsin’s resignation?

                    Generally positive. The memories of the participants in the "carriage races" have not yet faded, and he did little good for Russia, but thoroughly disgraced. I was wary of the receiver, because no polit. experience, no team he had.
                    I did not trump participation, but wanted to say that there really wasn’t any time for analytics. Only when in mid-February everything calmed down was there time to think, analyze, discuss with the officers.
                    Are you satisfied with the answer?
                    1. 0
                      14 August 2019 12: 51
                      Quote: major147
                      Generally positive

                      Quote: major147
                      Are you satisfied with the answer?

                      Yes, thanks, quite satisfied.
                      So the old one, without any upheavals (civil war, the collapse of the country, bulk) will go away. But I think that he will not leave us a choice here either. He will expose the person he needs for himself. The system of "values" of his environment will remain. I admit that the people will calm down for a while. But this is not a solution to the main problem. New names are needed, but they are not yet available.
                      1. 0
                        14 August 2019 21: 42
                        Wait and see.
        2. -1
          2 August 2019 18: 18
          Overthrown! Got decades of devastation and millions of dead.


          They got the superpower of the leader in science and production around the world, received unprecedented social guarantees, the elimination of illiteracy, and so on. etc. As one Trotskyist (sic!) Wrote about Stalin

          The essence of Stalin's historical achievements is that he received Russia with a plow, and leaves it with nuclear reactors. He raised Russia to the level of the second industrial power in the world. This was not the result of purely material progress and organization. Such achievements would not have been possible without a comprehensive cultural revolution, during which the entire population attended school and studied very hard.
          1. +1
            2 August 2019 19: 59
            Quote: rait
            He raised Russia to the level of the second industrial power in the world.

            Yes! But again I didn’t like it! What is this talking about?
            1. -1
              2 August 2019 20: 01
              I mean, didn’t like it again? Nobody overthrew Stalin, he died his own death, and the USSR that eventually collapsed was a completely different country in relation to the Stalinist USSR.
              1. +1
                2 August 2019 20: 04
                Quote: rait
                I mean, didn’t like it again? Nobody overthrew Stalin, he died his own death, and the USSR that eventually collapsed was a completely different country in relation to the Stalinist USSR.

                Yes, it’s not Stalin’s talk, but about the constant attempts of the West to change power in Russia not in a constitutional and as destructive way as possible.
                1. -1
                  2 August 2019 20: 09
                  It was never possible, using exclusively outside influence, to change power without a direct military invasion. The West can try as much as you like, but nothing will come of it until a revolutionary situation develops, the very one that was described by Lenin. And the revolutionary situation is formed solely due to the actions and inaction of the current government which leads the country to collapse that can be exploited. Strong empires do not collapse.

                  Therefore, the perpetrators of the overthrow of power should not be sought in the West, but in power. Ukraine is the most recent example.

                  And yes, we are talking about the Stalinist USSR. You argued about "decades of devastation and millions of deaths" apparently forgetting to mention what in the end it all led.
                  1. 0
                    2 August 2019 20: 18
                    Quote: rait
                    It was never possible, using exclusively outside influence, to change power without a direct military invasion. The West can try as much as you like, but nothing will come of it until a revolutionary situation develops, the very one that was described by Lenin. And the revolutionary situation is formed solely due to the actions and inaction of the current government which leads the country to collapse that can be exploited. Strong empires do not collapse.

                    Therefore, the perpetrators of the overthrow of power should not be sought in the West, but in power. Ukraine is the most recent example.

                    Both in the first and in the second case, 50% of the fault. You know whose money revolution was made in both Russia and Ukraine.
                    Quote: rait
                    You argued about "decades of devastation and millions of deaths" apparently forgetting to mention what in the end it all led.

                    I’m not sure that the civil war, where Russians died on both sides, caused the industrialization of the USSR.
                    1. -1
                      2 August 2019 21: 21
                      You know whose money revolution was made in both Russia and Ukraine.


                      And I also know whose money failed make a revolution in the USSR until 1991. And the West was trying simply incomparably in relation to modern time, then the USSR was a horror for the whole world. And the whole reason is that the power was strong and not decomposed, it confidently led the country to success and it’s hard to shake up the happy masses of people how much money it doesn’t pour.

                      Therefore, if you do not want to allow the Maidan in the country, then you need to cleanse the modern decayed elites that are leading the country to the abyss. Well, if you want, you can engage in "protection" and in the end you will see how the decayed elites will lead the country to the point where the West can make a coup in its own interests, as it was in Ukraine.

                      I’m not sure that the civil war, where Russians died on both sides, caused the industrialization of the USSR.


                      What do you mean unsure? Who carried out industrialization? The communists. As a result, they came to power? As a result of the civil war. Elementary causal relationship.
                      1. +1
                        2 August 2019 21: 32
                        Quote: rait
                        Therefore, if you do not want to allow Maidan in the country, then you need to clean the modern decomposed elites that lead the country to the abyss.

                        And who is against? I am for!
                        Quote: rait
                        As a result, they came to power? As a result of the civil war.

                        And in order to come to power with German money, it was necessary to kill so many people? Is the price great?
                        I'm not saying ("History does not suffer a subjunctive mood" ... (c) that if there had not been a revolution, perhaps the fate of Russia in the 20th century would have been different.
                        1. 0
                          3 August 2019 07: 02
                          And in order to come to power with German money, it was necessary to kill so many people? Is the price great?


                          And nobody asked the communists, they did not cause the revolution (the revolutionary situation developed without them and began to take shape long before them), they did not start the revolution itself. They had a choice: Either take power now, or leave it to other revolutionaries. Thus, including with them, they were brought to Russia with German money for German purposes.

                          As a result, they decided to take power after both Germany and the whole West for decades in a state of permanent terror and a superpower was born.
                        2. 0
                          3 August 2019 15: 06
                          Quote: rait
                          a superpower was born.

                          But pre-revolutionary Russia was not a superpower?
                        3. 0
                          3 August 2019 19: 05
                          We must start with the fact that such a term was first used during the Second World War, at the time of the Russian Empire it did not exist. However, in my opinion (and not only), the Republic of Ingushetia is a backward country with an outdated agrarian economy. I just recommend googling, for example, what percentage of the population could write their name, what percentage was completely literate, what was imported and what was sold. RI was not even the second industrial power in the world.

                          Industrialization in the USSR was so short and effective because it was carried out on the basis of a backward agrarian economy.
                        4. 0
                          3 August 2019 21: 44
                          Quote: rait
                          We must start with the fact that such a term was first used during the Second World War, at the time of the Russian Empire it did not exist. However, in my opinion (and not only), the Republic of Ingushetia is a backward country with an outdated agrarian economy. I just recommend googling, for example, what percentage of the population could write their name, what percentage was completely literate, what was imported and what was sold. RI was not even the second industrial power in the world.

                          Industrialization in the USSR was so short and effective because it was carried out on the basis of a backward agrarian economy.

                          1. I'm not talking about the term, but to the point.
                          2. Do not forget that between RI and the end of industrialization ie about 35 years have passed since the beginning of the Second World War. During this time, everyone made a jump. I think RI would also not stay in place. Feel the difference in development between 1960 and 1995.
                        5. 0
                          3 August 2019 22: 33
                          2. "During this time, everyone made a leap" is not true, there was no such leap in the developed countries of the West. Simply because they were already using advanced (at that point in time) technologies that were introduced gradually, in an evolutionary way. That is why the USSR imported entire factories from the United States; at the time of industrialization in the United States, they were massively used and were not revolutionary. This is a school curriculum, how can you not know this? Moreover, the school curriculum is not only in history, the leaping economic growth of backward countries is the basics of economics.

                          Nobody knows what would become of the backward RI "if only if only". The fact is that RI did not really stay in place, but collapsed under the weight of unresolved problems and its own backwardness. In such a state, there was simply no question of any industrialization.
                        6. +1
                          3 August 2019 22: 43
                          Quote: rait
                          The USSR imported whole plants from the USA,

                          And what did you pay and where did you get the pay in a war-drained country? My grandfather and his large, hardworking family took it. They left what they were. And they lived their labor in the village. They did not have wage workers, only themselves. And they did not send him to Siberia from the Don, only because the eldest son served in the Red Army. And how many were expelled, and how many of them died. Industrialization is good, but what is the price !?
                        7. -1
                          3 August 2019 22: 56
                          I don’t remember because it is not a subject of discussion. However, I am aware of how collectivization was carried out, as well as cultural values ​​sold out and so on. etc.

                          About the price. It was thanks to industrialization that victory in the Great Patriotic War became possible, the Soviet economy defeated the economy of Nazi Germany.

                          So I recommend that you think about the price. Would you be satisfied with the destruction of the Russian people and the occupation of our land by German "knights" as it would have happened without industrialization?
                        8. 0
                          3 August 2019 23: 26
                          Quote: rait
                          So I recommend you think about the price.

                          When I have a desire to think, I do it without any recommendation whatsoever.
                          Stalin was breaking through his knees so much as to build a new country, that the losses in the war are comparable with the losses from collectivizations, repressions, etc.
                        9. 0
                          3 August 2019 23: 48
                          And for the second time you go away from answering an uncomfortable question, typically.

                          Stalin was breaking through his knees so much as to build a new country, that the losses in the war are comparable with the losses from collectivizations, repressions, etc.


                          ABOUT! So are you from the witnesses of Solzhenitsyn with his tens of millions of repressed?
                        10. +1
                          4 August 2019 12: 24
                          Quote: rait
                          ABOUT! So are you from the witnesses of Solzhenitsyn with his tens of millions of repressed?

                          It seems to be a very insightful person, but this is a failure.
                          To my great regret, you (I’m writing not from the capital, because you stubbornly ignore this rule) are not able to understand my message. I'll try to explain to you on the fingers. You decided to build a big and bright house for yourself with the help of your large family, instead of the old chicken coop. Built. But during the construction, a quarter of the family died. How do you like the price of a good deal? Understand at the end what I mean?
                        11. 0
                          4 August 2019 12: 46
                          Any analogy is false. Especially when the analogy is wrong, so I will bring it to the situation under discussion.

                          You are not just building a family home. You build it because otherwise you will all die, you personally, your wife, numerous children and your family will be interrupted (think of a reason for yourself, but let's say neighbors will attack you and kill everyone). There are no other options. Realizing that death is about to overtake you, all together, by hook or by crook, build this house, tearing yourself. During construction, a quarter of the family members die, but the family itself, your family survives.

                          Well, how do you like the price? What do you choose? Curl up on the ground, infantilely start dreaming of high ideals and pink ponies and commit suicide of all kind, or will you still save the family despite all the hardships?

                          This is the correct analogy, and it’s as if your house is an exclusive whim of the owner and you can live without it.

                          Naturally, I will choose the second option, just as the generations of my ancestors did for me even before the Republic of Ingushetia and, in general, even to the Slavs as such.

                          I’m already holding a message about this promise

                          So I recommend that you think about the price. Would you be satisfied with the destruction of the Russian people and the occupation of our land by German "knights" as it would have happened without industrialization?


                          and you understand him (at least I hope so), but you don’t want to acknowledge and always leave the answer.
                        12. 0
                          4 August 2019 15: 50
                          Quote: rait
                          Any analogy is false. Especially when the analogy is wrong, so I will bring it to the situation under discussion.

                          Why do you think so? And who determines the correctness? Or so "The teaching of Marx is omnipotent, because it is true."
                          Quote: rait
                          This is the right analogy

                          Contradict yourself. You already decide
                          Quote: rait
                          There are no other options.

                          This is if you think linearly, like you. There are always options.
                          Quote: rait
                          I’m already holding a message about this promise

                          So I recommend that you think about the price. Would you be satisfied with the destruction of the Russian people and the occupation of our land by German "knights" as it would have happened without industrialization?
                          and you understand him (at least I hope so), but you don’t want to acknowledge and always leave the answer.

                          I already wrote to you above:
                          Industrialization is good, but what is the price !?

                          Naturally I am against
                          the occupation of our land by German "knights"
                          .
                          You hoped for the opposite. I am a military officer who defended our people on the battlefield. For some reason, you take the conversation away from the topic. I am trying to convey the problem of price for accomplishments, which are naturally necessary, but the linear thinking inherent in the apologists of the Communists and they themselves does not allow you to look at the problem of price from a different angle. Just reading:
                          Any analogy is false.
                          ,
                          So you are from the witnesses of Solzhenitsyn
                          , do not see another option?
                          The fact is that the Republic of Ingushetia did not really remain in place, but fell apart under the weight of unresolved problems and its own backwardness.
                          and the USSR from which fell apart, not from the same reasons?
                        13. 0
                          4 August 2019 16: 36
                          Why do you think so?


                          From such a subject as "logic". What you used is called a "false analogy" - the creation of an analogy or a metaphor with the subsequent extension of the conclusions built from there to the original problem. Why is it that the mind will tell you exactly, or not.

                          But then I see you for the third time getting away from answering an uncomfortable question. In such circumstances, it is impossible to conduct a discussion because there is no development.

                          This is if you think linearly, like you. There are always options.


                          Here I am not "thinking", but only retelling the story. And history (you won't believe it!) Is absolutely linear and any "options" in it are possible exclusively within the framework of works of art in the genre of alternative history. There is a given, there are past and unchanging historical events. I think in historical facts, you think in emotions that do not fit with history in any way and are only those very fantasies about "pink ponies" that never existed and never will.

                          and the USSR from which fell apart, not from the same reasons?


                          A considerable part of the reason was identical, for example, a rotten elite. But part of the reasons was not like the question of the peasantry and the land question arising from it.


                          Or so "The teaching of Marx is omnipotent because it is true."

                          but linear thinking inherent in the apologists of the Communists and they themselves does not allow you to look at the problem of price from a different angle


                          Long time ago they didn’t make me a communist lol
                        14. 0
                          5 August 2019 14: 31
                          Quote: rait
                          But then I see you for the third time getting away from answering an uncomfortable question. In such circumstances, it is impossible to conduct a discussion because there is no development.

                          Yes, I probably answered all your "inconvenient" questions ....
    13. +2
      1 August 2019 09: 41
      Can we resolve the gameparade on August 2? Together with the vacation of employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs ...
    14. Quote: Bulls.
      Quote: Stav
      Remove the veil from the eyes and look carefully at what is happening around. Horrified

      So already. And we will be horrified when all this shushara from the streets to the Duma and the Kremlin sits down.

      ***
      Theoretically: as soon as all this riffraff with people in the Duma and the Kremlin sits down and starts talking about the atrocities of the previous government, you, Mr. Bykov, will immediately become a defender of the new government, for "all power is from God" and "the tsar is the viceroy of God on Earth, "right?

      PS
      1) In big politics, high power and big business there are almost no decent people.
      2) You do not enlighten how to protest within the legal framework?
    15. +6
      1 August 2019 10: 23
      I urge law enforcement agencies to disperse these rallies of liberal traitors as hard as possible. Those people who lead these protests such as Navalny, Yashin generally can not be allowed to power.
      1. -4
        1 August 2019 10: 44
        How did Bulk and Yashin betray you? They spend most of their time behind bars. Or did you mean our president, who, in his own words, is “a true liberal and holds liberal views”?
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 11: 13
          They should spend time behind bars. But for some reason they don’t.
          1. -2
            1 August 2019 11: 16
            Who should? For you personally?
            1. +2
              1 August 2019 11: 20
              Article 212 of the Criminal Code. Unfortunately, it does not apply to these figures in full. The authorities are too soft.
              1. 0
                1 August 2019 11: 26
                What does the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation? There is article 31 of the Constitution on which authorities spit
                1. +1
                  1 August 2019 11: 36
                  And there is also article 318 of the Criminal Code and article 19.3 of the Code of Administrative Offenses. Need legality from others? Not a question, but first do not break the law yourself.
                  1. -1
                    1 August 2019 11: 41
                    The authorities violated the country's fundamental law by denying people the right to rally. Is this not enough for you?
                    1. +2
                      1 August 2019 11: 52
                      If this rally violates the rights of other citizens, then the authorities acted very reasonably. For example, I am not interested in the screaming crowd under the windows. In such cases, I call the police. I do not like the disruption in the operation of public transport caused by these events. These figures were given a specific place for gatherings, where they would not interfere with anyone. The freedom of one citizen ends where the freedom of another begins.
              2. -1
                1 August 2019 18: 48
                Billions stolen them softened ... It is understandable.
        2. +3
          1 August 2019 11: 27
          If God forbid one of them or others like them comes to power, then our country will simply not stand the third liberal blow. It was the liberal movement that overthrew the tsar, which led to the death of the Russian Empire, it was the liberal views of our "communist parties" that led to the death of the USSR and the further destruction of the Russian economy, which led the country to default in August 1998. As for the president, he himself said that the liberal the idea has outlived itself. Navalny and others like him are not the people who are able to raise the country to the proper level.
          1. -3
            1 August 2019 11: 30
            And who is able to raise the country to the proper level? Who! Name this person
            1. +6
              1 August 2019 11: 38
              In the current political arena, unfortunately, but I do not see such a person. But betting on outright provocateurs is not worth it. Russia is a very complex, multinational country, with a large extent of borders, resources, nuclear space technology. And there are also enough opponents of our statehood. Wrong steps can lead the country to disaster and the death of millions of Russian citizens
              1. -1
                1 August 2019 15: 16
                Quote: kursk87
                ....... Wrong steps can lead the country ........

                I agree with your post. Just wanted to clarify for clarity. What, in your opinion, would be the right steps with us? Or they are not necessary at all. How will it resolve itself?
                1. 0
                  1 August 2019 17: 23
                  I suggest going straight. Without knocking down a step. We are already going blindly
            2. DPN
              -3
              1 August 2019 13: 32
              Only COMMUNISTS, just do not say that THEY will take away from YOU six summer cottages and housing and may be returned to the MEAT sausage, and not the periodic table.
            3. -2
              1 August 2019 15: 51
              Quote: tkoh
              ..... who is able to raise the country ......

              The challenger is not known, but the one who just doesn’t pull her up remains at the helm. It is surprising that there are those who are seriously afraid of the dump. The people are not so stupid. To follow him to the end. Moreover, information has passed that he got sick. So, at the moment, for someone, "Fish for bezrybe and cancer" - no more.
      2. 0
        1 August 2019 18: 52
        Putin and Medvedev were allowed, Yeltsin was allowed. And these are the worse? Will they ruin Russia? For example, I don’t observe that Putin is collecting Russia, rather, rather, it is dismantling it slowly.
    16. +4
      1 August 2019 10: 54
      I already wrote about my negative attitude towards Navalny on page VO, but I will not hide the fact that, from time to time, I used some material from the "opposition" channels on YouTube. Over time, I noticed that my attitude towards some channels changed. If the first time I "got acquainted" with YouTube channels, after watching a couple of videos, I could say: "Yes, guys, really, they are" cutting the truth "!" ..., then later, as information from these sites accumulates. ..channels, began to notice. that other "truth-lovers-truth-tellers" ... with "rotten"! And they carry the roll! For example, you can consider such a case from the last: at one of the last "weapon" exhibitions, cluster bombs were demonstrated ... What began on YouTube! The Ministry of Defense began with might and main on the "channels" to call the Ministry of untruths, lies, lies, etc. ... And all because they remembered the statements of the Ministry of Defense that cluster weapons are not used (not used) in Syria! Well, why is this boil? Firstly: admitting the presence of cluster weapons and declaring not to use them are still different things! Moreover, these statements could relate to different (!) Time periods and regions! It is also worth noting that Russia did not sign an agreement to end production and ban the use of cluster weapons! Also, "significant" countries such as Israel, the USA, China, India, Brazil did not sign such a treaty ... But the "oppositionists" are trying with might and main to slander the situation in any way to their own (!) Benefit! I would like to note that the "negative" I have expressed does not apply to "absolutely all" (100% ...) oppositional TV channels ... You just need to be critical of any information material and not forget to turn on the "thinking"!
      1. +7
        1 August 2019 11: 14
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        I will not hide the fact that, from time to time, I used some material from "opposition" channels on YouTube.

        Under the guise of 10-20% of the truth, they push a complete misinformation. The old way.
    17. +5
      1 August 2019 11: 29
      Even last year, some pepper sprinkled instructions for them, but they still can't collect the "case". They are useless: neither to dump nor to present.
    18. +2
      1 August 2019 12: 35
      Show them:
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 15: 57
        It’s true that the police do not throw drugs there, on a call from United Russia, they don’t run to close who they show, and also salaries such that € 400 are like 5 tr in Russia. By the way, for example, scary cops in New York
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 16: 42
          It’s not true, the police there are smearing the door with a rookie ...
          What about the USA, then

          And so - "onizhedeti", and at school, and not at a demonstration:

          What, poorly fed in the Ministry of Truth?
          1. -4
            1 August 2019 17: 42
            I can’t comment on the photos, then I don’t know what is on them. Tell me, interesting. I can’t draw any conclusions while looking at them. Maybe it's a drug mafia, and the child did something bad
            1. +1
              1 August 2019 18: 33
              On the first - an unauthorized rally, and not the worst option, the Indians were generally dispersed with tanks when they protested against the pipe on the reservation, and on the second - a common practice in the United States - if a child is naughty in class, the teacher calls the police - and the child - no matter what age - as a convict is forged in handcuffs, taken to the police station, physical impact is "allowed", while they have not yet shot, but soon will be, according to the logic of development. And all because the United States didn’t sign international agreements on the rights of the child at all - he is the same prisoner, and the use of force against him is justified, they regularly protest against this, but ... See photo one
              1. -5
                1 August 2019 21: 25
                Usual practice in the usa. Ahaha. Yes, there are children who suspect that they are members of street gangs and that they do not expel them from school and mess around like everyone else. Teachers complain that they can’t do anything with teens. Where did you fall from? At the same time, yes, if there is a security risk, they will detain anyone, which is quite normal.
                The photo of the rally is also incomprehensible, 141 Churovsky percent that you do not know anything about this image, but you took it from some kind of Olginsky mem-generator. Try your best. New memes look for powerful arguments
                1. 0
                  1 August 2019 21: 34
                  About teenage gangs in Russia - tell Trump, who even before the election, one of the points of the program was the fight against teenage gangs, which actually control most of the territory of cities, especially in the south and south-west of the country. Photo of the rally is incomprehensible, you have a video of a petting

                  Oh, it’s not in vain that Biden dispersed your previous ministry of truth ...
                  And this is fresh, earlier in the United States they liked to shoot hippie students with combat to kill ... Or at Vietnamese veterans, also fighting, "march of veterans", by the way, you will find hell in Russian Wikipedia for some reason, not because the State Department supervises ?
        2. +2
          1 August 2019 17: 13
          And also statistics on those killed by police in the United States is lying, and the United States collected. Or again we belay
    19. +3
      1 August 2019 12: 38
      Tatyana Montyan, because of her physical condition (she has nothing to lose) is not shy in expressions calling things by their proper names. The main question to the Russian (and not only) liberot - but have you tried to go to court? At least in order to get at least some answer there. Even a refusal.

      A healthy person, albeit a lawyer.
    20. DPN
      +5
      1 August 2019 13: 23
      I read and understood that the Soviet government was not decisive in 1991, did not disperse those who supported Yeltsin, now we complain that there is no work, not measured housing and communal services and 100 varieties of sausages from chemistry from 30 rubles to 2000 rubles per kg. to whom it’s too tough.
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 17: 01
        Yes, if up to two thousand. Fifteen years ago, I saw five per kilo in a supermarket in Moscow. Apparently a pig with a pedigree was
    21. +3
      1 August 2019 13: 36
      worst of all, there is no right in these actions. And the authorities are not right, not giving a voice and taking people out to the streets, and on the street people are not trying to get their word across, but are stupidly organizing riots or being conducted on provocateurs.
      it may be fun to burn cars, as in Paris and destroy shops, but I do not believe that this is the right way.
      that in the end - 2 embittered parties, none of which can solve the problem
      and those to whom discontent must be conveyed are very far from events
      1. -1
        1 August 2019 17: 58
        The opinion of the people is not interesting to the authorities, do not report it. Putin’s rule will bring the people to the pen, the gbeshnik does not even think about it. I don’t see his head at all. Just a man plays the role of president.
    22. DPN
      +3
      1 August 2019 13: 44
      Those people who lead these protests such as Navalny, Yashin generally can not be allowed to power.
      But something like Yeltsin, and how he differed from them would not have been modern R.F. but the USSR would remain.
      1. -2
        1 August 2019 17: 59
        They can’t be Putin’s and also a filthy broomstick from power!
    23. 0
      1 August 2019 13: 47
      and what can I say then, this is the beginning of the end for those in power - they are already starting to lose elections, it will be worse, and not for them, but for us, who have no spare airfields in Europe This is what our "elite" has achieved with its insidious policy
      Even 20 years ago, my mother said - if they want to achieve patriotism, let them make a good salary for people. And instead of decent salaries, we have one patriotic vomit creeping in everywhere, and the point is zero!
      1. +2
        1 August 2019 15: 12
        "This is the beginning of the end for those in power" - And the beginning of the arrival of other powers that be. And your life, as it was on the verge of a cesspool, will remain so - nothing will change, the process of replacing an sewn with soap already took place in 1917 and in 1991 - this process ended and Russia will not return to it again.
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 16: 51
          That is the whole point. What to change? Who for what? Bring other masters to power? I'm straight xs. I know communism and capitalism. They don’t want the first one, they don’t like the second one, they didn’t come up with the third one, but the main thing is to break it, and there it looks like it will turn out. And no fig will not work. Nobody will give an experiment. At best, another fifty states of the United States will succeed
        2. -2
          2 August 2019 19: 48
          Even as it will return.
          The process is an endless, conditioned reflex for a couple of three generations and all over again.
          1. 0
            2 August 2019 20: 56
            Further on, these will be more and more difficult - Big Brother begins to more and more diligently monitor everyone and everyone individually.
      2. +1
        1 August 2019 16: 58
        Hello, please. Why didn’t your mother make us a decent salary? Do not share the recipe?
        And I apologize in advance about my statement. But it’s interesting how you see it all. If they give me everything that I earned, then where will the oligarchs come from? Do you propose socialism or is there another recipe?
        1. -1
          1 August 2019 19: 50
          There is no ready-made recipe, but there is an example of some developed countries of the world where those in power were able to provide decent wages to citizens of their states in different sectors of the economy
          From here I conclude that our rulers should be changed to more competent
          1. 0
            1 August 2019 20: 01
            I have plus. Only the offer turns out to change more greedy for money, to less. Her. I don’t go because of such garbage. Or all equally, or all forested. I do not agree to exchange one uncle for another.
          2. 0
            2 August 2019 01: 42
            It makes no sense to compare them with Russia - countries and people are completely different.
      3. -2
        1 August 2019 18: 00
        Yes, all this ruling camarilla patriotism covers its robbery.
    24. +3
      1 August 2019 14: 01
      Quote: Lipchanin
      The West and the United States hate GDP and all our power.

      Come on! They hate the whole of Russia and ... this hatred is not it for a hundred years.
      1. -1
        1 August 2019 18: 03
        That's right, the people hate the United States and the Russian government also hates. I would give them all to court! Medvedev woke up when smoke reached the states!
    25. -2
      1 August 2019 15: 12
      An important detail of these actions can be considered that the overwhelming majority of their participants cannot unequivocally express themselves, for what specific changes in the country they advocate.
      the crafty author ("our father ..." he needs to read many times - get rid of the "crafty")
      Knives, hammers and gas masks taken from individual participants in the last rally (July 27) indicate that there are people in the crowd
      there will always be a provocateur
      who will try to turn the declared as a peaceful action into a massacre with law enforcement officers.
      not too lazy, watched quite a few videos,
      knives, hammers
      I didn’t see, but I saw how women were bought with a baton (and of all ages and on the head) and the women obviously didn’t beat the “vigilantes”, didn’t push (some tried to cover the men with their bodies, which they walked around).
      there will always be a provocateur
      question: on whose side is the provocateur ?. when the Moscow opposition was collecting signatures in stalls, groups of provocateurs walked around the streets with buckets of shit and poured buckets into the stalls (here it is clear from which side). An interesting moment I show the central channels about the flight of the trash can to the "Rosguard", if you look at the whole moment and from different angles, then the boy (bent with the letter "si" on the asphalt) is walked around by 4 bullies "measurers", he yells like a chopped pig and asks people help. when an urn flew into the policemen, they were distracted, and the boy would not have arrived at all. would have chased the "golden" youth who knock people down to death, mara bagdasaryan with a club ...
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 16: 42
        ... I saw how women were bought with a truncheon (and of all ages and on the head) and the women obviously did not beat the "vigilantes"

        As I understand it, you also did not participate in that action. When you will be directly on the spot unsubscribe. Mustache videos save copy all reserved. They were filmed by the organizers of the action
        1. -2
          1 August 2019 17: 24
          Quote: igorbrsv
          ... I saw how women were bought with a truncheon (and of all ages and on the head) and the women obviously did not beat the "vigilantes"

          As I understand it, you also did not participate in that action. When you will be directly on the spot unsubscribe. Mustache videos save copy all reserved. They were filmed by the organizers of the action
          no like you.
          I live far from the garden ring (very) I would live in Moscow - I came and I'm not a fan of bulk
          1. +3
            1 August 2019 17: 27
            Well. We have a common ground. I'm too far from the ring. And life is not very. Only I do not blame the authorities, but the employer. There, by the way, the photo is cool. Cute girl on the floor. A crowd of men from behind. What is she doing? Go choose any. Give birth to children. On the cold floor sits idiot. Any man in the background will feed her. Almost no one dies of hunger
            1. -2
              1 August 2019 17: 37
              .
              Quote: igorbrsv
              Well. We have a common ground. I'm too far from the ring. And life is not very. Only I do not blame the authorities, but the employer.
              people (constitution of rf article 3)? according to the constitution, people are the employer of power. Didn’t you try the strike or the court?
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                1. +1
                  1 August 2019 17: 59
                  But I can handle my problems myself. And what about the protesters completely pinched? What work will not replace? The rally is clear the stump is not paid much
                  1. -1
                    1 August 2019 18: 17
                    I have no doubt and good luck.

                    at the expense of the constitution banter.
                    I don’t agree with the rally, I believe that someone came for hephaestus, but most of it was for an idea. In the 90s (when we lived half a year without money) I went a couple of times. hi
                    1. 0
                      1 August 2019 18: 20
                      And you forgive me. In my wet dreams, I imagined myself as president. But even there nothing good came out
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2019 18: 32
                        Quote: igorbrsv
                        introduced himself as president

                        see you in the ballot in the election in 24 laughing
                        1. 0
                          1 August 2019 18: 40
                          We will pull the electorate wassat
                    2. 0
                      1 August 2019 18: 29
                      Ltd. They said on TV that our robot "Fedor" flew to the ISS. I thought he was in the project. I don’t know whether to believe now or not
                      1. 0
                        1 August 2019 18: 30
                        I hope he didn’t even fly there himself, but on a rocket
                        1. 0
                          1 August 2019 20: 30
                          hang glider
    26. +1
      1 August 2019 15: 42
      It seems to me that it was not necessary to put this article at all. Current domestic policy is not a VO format. There are hundreds of other resources for this.
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 16: 39
        On one to not hold out. The number of comments shows that the people are most interested. VO is not a charitable organization, it is a media resource
        1. +1
          3 August 2019 13: 50
          Perhaps you are right from a commercial point of view. But such universalization will inevitably lead to a loss of quality. And so completely insane articles already appear. Literally half an hour ago I read a "masterpiece" about the Me-262. Spit for a long time. And having brought a politician to the magazine, we will get a bunch of frostbitten freaks on both sides and a mega-doctor in the comments. Even a cursory glance at the comments to this article evokes the understanding that psychiatric care in our country is completely unsatisfactory.
      2. -4
        2 August 2019 19: 40
        Where the weapons are there and politics!
    27. +2
      1 August 2019 16: 12
      Quote: DPN
      Those people who lead these protests such as Navalny, Yashin generally can not be allowed to power.

      why not?
      people - they are like cogs, useful in their place.
      Can you imagine how useful a villain with sadistic tendencies as a quality inspector can turn out to be? And bulk can be useful to society. The guy is educated, quirky, has many useful skills. Somewhere and in power, non-system engineers can suddenly show themselves well.
      I would love to hire a bulk attorney for the union.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 17: 18
        Quote: yehat
        I would love to hire a bulk attorney for the union.

        You are probably a very cordial person and an employer if you decide to open this vacancy. Or do you want to betray him from oblivion from everyone? laughing
      2. -2
        2 August 2019 19: 39
        Navalny is definitely better than two high-ranking lawyers. From him, if used properly, there would be much more benefit than from dwarfs.
        1. +1
          2 August 2019 20: 24
          Quote: Campanella
          If used properly, there would be much more benefit from it ...

          Do not be fooled so much so laughing
          1. -2
            2 August 2019 21: 02
            I do not fall for it, but express my point of view.
            Do not you know that it was Putin and Medvedev who bombarded civil aviation, and now they are trying to raise it?
            1. 0
              3 August 2019 08: 20
              Quote: Campanella
              Putin with Medvedev

              Cutlets and flies - all on one plate? Yes you are a provocateur, my friend wink

              Quote: Campanella
              it was Putin and Medvedev who overwhelmed civil aviation

              That is, until the 2000th GA we "bloomed and smelled." Clear. You don't have to continue.

              Quote: Campanella
              and now they’re trying to raise her

              I didn't understand "type". What's wrong with aviation, too? Huh, agitator?
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    28. -1
      1 August 2019 16: 19
      Trump in a telephone conversation with Putin offered help in the fight against rallies in Moscow
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 16: 34
        Bulk chtoli fell out of favor with trump?
    29. +1
      1 August 2019 16: 32
      Like when they write that liberds and all that .. for sure, but when they were in power then they were? Under Yeltsin? This is how many years ago .. dozens were? :)))
      "An important detail of these actions can be considered that the overwhelming majority of their participants can not unequivocally speak for what specific changes in the country they stand for" - write nonsense.
      What questions, what changes? It seems that here some of the people are being kept for idiots.
      Retirement age raised
      In the country, we have an average salary of more than 35 thousand, which is constantly broadcast from television
      Fires began to be extinguished a week later, while we walked in Siberia like hedgehogs in the fog
      Officials ride over a hill, spend millions on business trips and at least henna.
      Serdyukov with his mistress stole and ..? On the loose. Now about Shoigu’s mistress, the info already pops up, which, as a former stewardess, became a millionaire, yes, she’s very smart, like all Rogozin’s kids, etc.

      People want one thing - so that the authorities begin to listen to people. But such authors, and propagandons from the central channels + officials who, by hook or by crook, pour game into the ears, will sooner or later blow up the country. Because people need to let off steam, listen to them, you let them in a couple of local deputies, a couple of others, be wiser! And now you are working like a bunch of sheep, which in the age of the Internet looks very funny, youth are not the same :)
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 18: 10
        So what are they up to? They want to lower the retirement age? We do not have an average salary of 35000 rubles. Are they going to raise her somehow? Is there a plan? Now I have a problem. I got a job working for black cash, about 60000 a month. To whom it is a little, and to me norms. With the official in the minimum. Now bankrupt is the enterprise. Who is to blame? I am responsible for myself, and you go further and ask. And I sell my labor. Not up to us
    30. 0
      1 August 2019 16: 33
      An interesting girl in the photo. In armor, with loose shoelaces, with a detached look. Immediately clear just came to rest
    31. -1
      1 August 2019 16: 34
      Quote: Stav
      Military Review, is that all you have been able to write on this subject since Saturday, 27 July? No words, crushed the site ..


      Yes, lately there have been a bunch of fake accounts in it that are pouring us the tighter game that comes from the central channels. A lot of material has become from the series - everything around is bad, except for the current officials :))
    32. -5
      1 August 2019 16: 58
      [quote = Lipchanin] [quote = Donskoy]
      The West and the United States hate GDP and all our power.
      Therefore, I and a lot of people hate both the West and the United States.
      [/ Quote]
      For this, our government and everyone nearby love the West and the USA very much and have real estate there, a residence permit, and even citizenship, and their children study abroad. And then they come here and will manage you just like their parents.
    33. -1
      1 August 2019 17: 26
      Quote: shura7782
      Or do you want to betray him from oblivion from everyone?

      I love harmony in the world. It’s hard and healthy for the bulk now,
      and in this field he will be able to find himself and really help someone.
      1. -4
        1 August 2019 17: 52
        Your Putin has immeasurably more opportunities, but something he is in no hurry to make people happy.
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 17: 54
          specify whose Putin, otherwise I do not know.
          1. -1
            1 August 2019 19: 20
            Isn't Putin your president?
            1. -1
              2 August 2019 10: 28
              no, definitely not mine. I have never voted for him.
              so whose is he?
              1. -2
                2 August 2019 19: 14
                The most interesting thing is that I have never voted for him either. So whose president is he?))))
    34. -1
      1 August 2019 17: 27
      Currently, the age of the so-called childhood is increased. It is considered to be 21 years old. This means that the age at which an individual of each gender (noticed how tolerant I am) can vote, must also be increased. Say from 25 years old. And legislatively it is necessary to ban participation in political activities, incl. rallies, etc., to all those who still do not have the right to vote!
    35. -2
      1 August 2019 17: 29
      Quote: DPN
      Soviet power was not decisive in 1991

      where did you see the tips in the 91st? they were gone.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 18: 55
        Where did you see the Tips until 1991? A decorative impotent organ that never solved anything. All decisions were made on Old Square 4, and the Soviets only nodded with loud and prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation.
    36. -1
      1 August 2019 17: 50
      People should have the right to choose, and not vote for incomprehensible candidates filtered by the authorities.
      There is no referendum, no elections, no pensions! But the slammer and taxes on everything that is possible and after that the authorities want us to choke silently on this oligarchic feudalism? Thanks to Putin made a good life for the people! He swims in his pool and does not blow in his mustache. President of the cooperative!
    37. 0
      1 August 2019 18: 35
      How familiar everything is. Only in my life saw 1991 Vilnius, Riga, Moscow, sweats in 1993, Moscow. And further. All according to Gene Sharp.
      1. -2
        1 August 2019 18: 42
        Putin apparently didn’t read anything.
        And when, after the pension reform was signed, he was told to increase the tax on the rich, he noticed that he did not see any reason for this. So Mr. Sharpe herself feeds the Russian government turning the Russians into their slaves.
    38. +1
      1 August 2019 20: 40
      He had a discussion with one Navalchanan and asked a question about who Navalny is an oppositionist, a blogger, a fighter for truth and freedom. Well, what does he earn? Lawyer. Stop, stop. They have been deprived of status since 2013. Now 2019, what he makes, he is a blogger, stop stop, looked at his clothes and shoes, he is dressed richer than me and my family of 3 people. He cannot earn money with a blogger and organize meetings, he needs money. He has a fund, and the fund has money from where, people help. Stop stop I have never seen, so that ordinary people helped him. so little things, desperate and even that is not enough. Where did he get the money to conduct his activities. Silence. Reproaches, you are a Putinist. Stop, and Putin V.V. is here, we are talking about Navalny. Then we changed the subject. So Alexei Anatolyevich Navalny, 76
      Education
      In 1993, at the age of 17, Navalny graduated from Alabin High School in the military village of Kalininets in the vicinity of the village of Taraskovo near Moscow. In 1998, at the age of 22, he graduated from the Law Department of the Peoples' Friendship University of Russia
      The following year, he enrolled in absentia at the Faculty of Finance and Credit at the Finance Academy under the Government of the Russian Federation (majoring in Securities and Exchange Business), which he graduated in 2001 at the age of 25. After 9 years (in 2010), 34-year-old Navalny, On the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Evgenia Albats, Sergey Guriev and Oleg Tsyvinsky, he studied for six months at Yale University under the Yale World Fellows program. One blogger decided to ask questions about Navalny’s finances after 2013. There are incomes, but lawyer activity is written, but he is deprived of it , from where the money came from, for uncomfortable questions he was banned. So, it is obvious that the local rich are sponsoring him from abroad, hoping to put him in the Kremlin and get dividends. There are a lot of people bought at the extras. Go out and die for it. The Ukrainians have jumped. There are special people in the guard. There are fooled people who think we’ll put him in the Kremlin and heal. Navalny and his relatives will heal. We will have another Yeltsin. No one will help us . we will only help ourselves, as soon as we stop crap in our homes and on the roads, in the woods, on the lake, the river. We will begin to respect each other with respect, and then it will be.
      1. -3
        2 August 2019 19: 29
        It means never. Bulk ram against anti-people power. He is most likely fed by the West.
        But the most interesting thing is how our current government is behaving, playing against the people, it may well lead the country to disaster, and it will not be Navalny who won it, but she herself.
    39. +4
      1 August 2019 21: 11
      No, I'm lying ...
      1. +4
        1 August 2019 22: 31
        Top class trolling!
      2. -1
        3 August 2019 13: 55
        What is alarming: signed by Yarosh !!! )))
    40. -1
      2 August 2019 03: 37
      The purest nonsense and provocation of the commentator roller
    41. -1
      2 August 2019 10: 36
      Quote: Campanella
      People should have the right to choose, and not vote for incomprehensible candidates filtered by the authorities.

      can you hear yourself where will people sort out their choices?
      90% do not understand anything at all and act like sheep.
      I applaud Zhirinovsky, who cynically uses it, offering a bottle of vodka for his voice.
      people should be chosen not by people, but by representatives of parties that have a position, program, detailed promises and responsibilities, if they suddenly want to merge all the promises.
      People should choose only between specific points of the program of political forces.
      Have you heard at least one party specific non-utopian proposals that they consistently promised to implement as soon as possible? I did not hear. Unless Starikov suggested introducing the death penalty, but this does not fit in with the improvement of the situation. And the rest - for all good versus all bad.
      1. -2
        2 August 2019 19: 34
        People will perfectly understand everything if they do not pour the poison of propaganda in their ears. As for the programs, the people are guided by them. But he has no way to recall the bastards who have deceived their expectations.
        The Communist Party has a real program, and I vote for them all the time.
        The president, on the other hand, was just yapping empty and still nothing that he had promised to do.
        1. 0
          2 August 2019 21: 03
          You are operating NOTHING. Let's get one - here are the logical chains. Do you have anything to say? Well, without slogans?
          https://alex-leshy.livejournal.com/1379607.html
        2. -1
          2 August 2019 21: 05
          Govnyuk that minus open his face. Object if there is anything. You anonymously bastard?
    42. +1
      2 August 2019 21: 27
      "An important detail of these actions can be considered the fact that the overwhelming majority of their participants cannot unambiguously speak for what specific changes in the country they are advocating."

      It's strange, who did they ask? - "girls-chorus-with-smartphones", "boys-bells"?
      Everyone I know can’t run about at rallies, but I’m able to formulate my complaints to the authorities quite clearly:
      - Filling the real content of instruments of democracy (a lot of party membership; a real parliament; real elections; a government formed by parliament; the right to a referendum on important issues; a working mechanism for parliamentary investigations; the military budget is transparent to parliament).
      So far, all these tools and institutions are just a clumsy imitation, a "cargo cult".
      - The cessation of turning us into Submitted, and the resumption of the process of evolution into Citizens (Freedom of choice, Responsibility, Self-Discipline).
      - Regular rotation of authorities at all levels (from municipalities to the president).
      - Termination of the barbaric reform of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the destruction of Russian science in general.
      - Reform of the Russian Orthodox Church - ridding it of the Petrine "chief prosecutor". Revitalization of church life for the transformation of the ROC into a living source of Orthodoxy, nourishing souls,
      not wallets.
      - Termination of the practice of "rolling under the asphalt" of the opposition. The opposition is not an "agent of world imperialism", but a mechanism for self-purification of power, a source of criticism and a most valuable personnel reserve for the country's government system (If you regularly "nightmare" it, like we do, then it degenerates into "urban madmen" and "revolutionary bombers" - this is an "outstanding intellectual achievement" of the power itself).
      - A variety of points of view on the central TV.
      - A really working system of "checks and balances" (independent courts; strengthening the role of the legal profession; "removing the shoulder straps from the prosecutor's office" - the transformation of prosecutors from a punishing instrument of Power into a representative of the State and Society (the formula "People against Larry Flindt") in the trial, along with the legal profession).
      - Significantly restricting the interference of "siloviki" (FSB) in the activities of the state, and financial activities.
      - Strengthening parliamentary control over law enforcement agencies. The transformation of power structures from punitive instruments of the regime into law enforcement ones - protecting our Democracy from the arbitrariness of capital, corrupt officials, organized crime groups and terrorists.
      - The cessation of tossing evidence, torture, bullying in the process of detention, investigation and detention in prisons.
      - The justice is the same for all - for the swami and children of officials / generals / bankers (this is a dream come true, but we need to move towards this),
      - A real fight against corruption (for example, recent mega-fires have shown - it is very likely that local officials have long turned a blind eye to the arson of forests and their barbaric destruction)
      - Attention to environmental issues.

      You see, among these demands there is neither "surrender to the West", nor "loss of sovereignty," nor "return of Crimea," nor "repentance to Ukraine" or "immediate confession of guilt" for the downed Boeing (an investigation is needed, not an admission of guilt !). Not even the obligatory holding of the May 9th gay pride parade on Red Square and nominate "Pussy Riot" for the Nobel Peace Prize (for the Shnobel Prize - you might think;)

      Only what is needed as air for the development of the country, for maintaining "homeostasis" in a very dynamically changing and often unfriendly external environment. Real liberals are patriots with open eyes. These are skeptics, people trying to think for themselves. And not those who of the two variants of pasta on the ears prefer imported "spaghetti", "noodles" of domestic production.
      1. +2
        2 August 2019 22: 53
        And I'm sorry I can not resist. Quote from the memoirs of M. Paleolog, the Ambassador of France to Russia, a conversation with the industrialist A.I. Putilov on the threshold of the February revolution:
        "... the greatest crime of tsarism: he did not want to allow, apart from his bureaucracy, any other hotbed of political life. And he did it so successfully that on the day when the officials disappear, the entire Russian state will disintegrate."

        Doesn't it look like anything? - that's what the Russian liberals are against. We do not want the routine change of leadership every time to turn into "the end of the world" (remember only this indecent in the 140st century: "There is Putin - there is Russia, there is no Putin - there is no Russia"). Regular peaceful change of power is the norm. There is no such post "President-Russian-Federation-Vladimir-Vladimirovich-Putin", there is the President of the Russian Federation = {Yeltsin, Putin, Ivanov, Petrov, Sidorov, ...}. We do not believe that among the 1 million Russians there is no more productive alternative to Putin personally and his team of "horses" that "do not change at the crossing." And from "collective Putin" there is now a demand, why (2) we always have a "crossing", and (XNUMX) why there are solid horses in the government, and so few Specialists.
        Weak to assemble a team in 18 years? - go away or pass it on to Parliament.
        1. -2
          3 August 2019 13: 06
          That's right! And Putin’s rule will end in turmoil again, because he didn’t build up normal civil institutions and the transfer of power will take place as always to his own. And yet, the electoral system must be protected from the influence of big money.
      2. -2
        3 August 2019 13: 01
        Grumbler, well done! We were not too lazy to disclose the essence of our wishes for power.
        True, the local orals do not need a constructive, but a foothold for the attack on each other. The essence of all the battles is that the current government has other interests — to stay at the feeding trough.
        1. -1
          3 August 2019 14: 00
          Thank you for your support, of course, but I myself turn out to be a "local shouting" ...
          I did not want to abuse it, but I will give the beginning of Putilov’s phrase: "What is a revolution in the exact sense of the word? .. This is the replacement, by violence, of one regime with another. A revolution can be a great welfare for the people, if, having destroyed, it can build again. From this point of view, revolutions in France and in England seem to me In our country, the revolution can only be destructive, because the educated class is only a weak minority, devoid of organization and political experience,
          having no connection with the people. Here, in my opinion, is the greatest crime of tsarism: [and further in the text above]. "
          After he speaks about the inevitability of the development of a bourgeois revolution, an intellectual revolution into a proletarian and peasant revolution. For us today it is not so relevant.
          But the fact that the educated class is still devoid of organization and is not capable of exercising power is a fact. How can Russia be entrusted to the "liberals", if even in the face of reaction they are unable to forget the differences in "programs and platforms", to unite for the elections in the name of the Main goals listed above ??

          It seems to me that the problem of our "liberals" ("pseudo-liberals") is that they inherited the attitude towards the people from the Soviet dissidents of the 70s-80s and do not want to understand what gap lies between dissidentism и political struggle.

          Dissidentism is a phenomenon born of persecution. The only thing that a dissertation can do is more or less passively "hate the regime" (for there are no conditions for activity: freedom of speech and political representation). Repressions are constantly driving dis-tov into "catacombs". And soon enough for a dissertation to "hate the regime" in the society of a handful of like-minded people, to complain about how bad the government is and what a "wrong" people around (who also manages to live, love, enjoy basic human joys and create). The less you are, the more exclusive you feel in comparison with the "crowd" around you (especially if the dissertation has a pronounced religious or ethnic component).

          But Political struggle - completely different matter! If you do not organize an armed coup, or do not "come to power on the tracks of tanks" of another power, then you must be supported by a very significant number of people. The abstract ideals of the diss-va must precisely fall on the practical issues of the day that excite many. And our dissidents have always had problems with this. Diss-s do not really care about the problems of the "non-thinking majority", where they write down everyone who is outside their "get-together".

          To whitewash the liberals must:
          - express the aspirations of the majority of the population and address the majority of the population in a language that they understand (based on His history, His traditions and His experience).
          - Respect and empathy with His story, sacrifices and shrines.
          - their concern should be His good, and not the good of the "diaspora".
          - they must believe in "universal talents" (honesty, hard work, heroism, etc.) inherent in their voter,
          Until then, the "liberals" are completely safe for the authorities.
          1. +1
            3 August 2019 14: 44
            imho, the situation is stalemate. My only hope is for people with "new thinking" who appear in power, on the one hand. And on the emergence of Russian Liberals - patriots of Russia and precisely because of the liberals! (and not because they oppose themselves to the rest of Russia), which can be voted on (for now, we, "angry engineers", have no vote). But does Russia have these notorious 20 years to build a dialogue? - Both parties need to speed up this process 10 times.
            1. -2
              3 August 2019 17: 14
              I agree with you about people in power with a new mindset, but I want to note that the appearance of such people will be directly related to the pressure of the people on power. their new thinking is the result of a compromise between the government and the people. If there is no compromise, then a revolution is inevitable.
    43. 0
      7 August 2019 12: 34
      these Putin statesmen have children, real estate and accounts in the West they are cursing, and you fuckers hawk propaganda about a worldwide conspiracy.
    44. 0
      7 August 2019 16: 14
      There is such an old Soviet film "Maxim Perepelitsa" with L. Bykov in the title role. The film is a story about how the Soviet army made a normal person responsible for his words and deeds out of the buzoter-gorlopan and the village idler Maxim in the Soviet army. And there is a scene in the film where the commander of the unit in which Maxim served asks him, who returned from the guardhouse for AWOL, why he behaves this way, and how he will behave in business. "Eh, it would have been good!" - exclaims in the hearts of Maxim (ethnic Ukrainian, by the way).
      I don’t believe that everything is perfect in Moscow's universities. But the youth are silent. Why isn't she fighting for free education, for example? Why, when the parents will pay for everything. She is not fighting for higher scholarships, for better living conditions in student dormitories, against unnecessary and worthless subjects and teachers. No! She does not fight for better working conditions in commercial enterprises, for trade unions, for young families, etc. No, young people are fighting to ensure that no one knows who (and public opinion polls show that no one is interested in the Moscow elections in Russia, and Muscovites themselves do not know well the affairs of both their local self-government deputies and the Moscow City Duma deputies) to get into this very Moscow City Duma. Have they read the programs of these "deputies"? No. Apart from the recitative “we are in power here”, can they offer anything to this very youth?
      So who benefits from this infantile, completely not logical, crazy protest? Who benefits from taking Muscovites as hostages in the center of the city on weekends? Who benefits from distracting youth from social and production problems by imposing pseudo-slogans on them?
      Not having gone through the school of the pioneer organization and the Komsomol, some of the youth not only do not know life, but live outside reality. And when faced with this reality, there is a Maidan, then "visa-free", and from the high stands negligent politicians who have penetrated into power, wave a pen to the guys leaving to work in foreign countries and wipe crocodile tears with cambric handkerchiefs.
      "Eh, it would have been good!" And if nothing is done, events in the looking glass risk becoming reality.
    45. 0
      11 August 2019 17: 24
      Yes, after looking at this "... screen space" in the photo, surrounded by such stern men, I just want to say - Little children! For no reason in the world Do not go to Africa, Go to Africa!
    46. 0
      18 August 2019 15: 03
      How they got these protestants, they don't know why, the main thing against whom and "light up" on the screens For example, this "protestuny" that in the photo has not appeared anywhere in what forms of protest did not participate, but already a student of the most anti-Russian university - Moscow State University, Faculty of Journalism, forge of pro-American personnel
    47. 0
      12 September 2019 20: 35
      Here is such a small tvar sitting, not seeing beyond its nose ... And then, after a few years - God, how wrong I was ...

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