China's Big Yugoslav Strategy

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Before China was Yugoslavia. And not only she


All the continuous admiration of the Middle Kingdom, which is demonstrated by Russian and not only journalists, can, however, be compared with quite well-known examples. For example, with the very ill-fated Yugoslavia.





And that is, it seems that the comrades Yugoslavs did not seem to reject the ideas of socialism, but were politically and economically oriented only to the West with 1949. Recall: it seems that socialist, Slavic and Orthodox Yugoslavia had much better relations with the FRG than with the USSR. Relations with the USSR were very, very difficult. But, as already mentioned, the Yugoslavs actively traded with the West and took loans there. And the people of Yugoslavia went to work, too, in many respects, to West Germany. Something like that.

The Yugoslavs lived much better than the inhabitants of the USSR, and by and large richer than a large part of Eastern Europe. And the technology they had was often more modern, and they carried out a very independent foreign policy, and the army was very good (both in terms of armaments and level of training). Just today it is somehow quickly forgotten (what happened before the 90-ies). But in the 60-e - 70-e Yugoslavia looked very, very worthy. Largely due to Western loans and access of its goods to Western markets. Tito did "come to success." But not for long.

Already in the 80-s, the Yugoslavs started having serious problems both with the standard of living and with the repayment of those very loans ... That is, no one in the West was going to simply fatten the people of Yugoslavia and arrange for them an economic “paradise”. All this was done intentionally and did not last long. And one of the demands of foreign lenders in 80's was the cessation of subsidies to economically backward territories and regions. What led to the growth of social and inter-ethnic tensions.

By the way, the successful Yugoslav example was promoted in Poland and Romania (do as there, and you will live as there, richly and independently). Warsaw and Bucharest bought it ... and began to acquire modern Western equipment for Western loans, to sell products to Western markets for currency ... They were waiting for a bummer - the West simultaneously refused to acquire it and tightened the conditions for the payment of loans, which led to a socio-economic crisis both in Poland and in Romania.

That is, the very “help” to the Yugoslavs was provided for a reason. It was a "multiple flow". And this very “help” was to be returned with large percentages; they simply did not talk about this to the Yugoslavs. That is, all this has already been repeatedly. We see nothing new. China is not growing at the expense of any "internal" solutions. China’s “rapid breakthrough” is mainly due to external reasons. He was granted a loan and open markets, and here he was “flooded”. Something like this.

Approximately according to the same principle, the “Japanese economic miracle” was organized after WWII; without external recharge it would have been impossible. And throughout the world, newspapers admired "what a fine fellow these Japanese are." So no matter how good they are, without creating the external conditions of a miracle in the Land of the Rising Sun, it would never have happened. The reasons for it were primarily served not by some mythical Japanese virtues, but by quite specific preferences for the accelerated development of the "unsinkable aircraft carrier." As soon as the “Japanese economic miracle” ceased to be necessary (and this is the end of 80's), it was immediately blown away. And 25 years of recession ... M-yes, and where are they, samurai virtues?

In the beginning, 80-s no longer needed the “Yugoslav economic miracle.” For some reason. And Serbs, Croats and other Bosnians immediately had big problems. If your well-being depends on a “good foreign uncle”, then it must be borne in mind that a “good uncle” can turn off the tap at any time, as the Japanese in 1941 have blocked the supply of oil. And put forward an ultimatum.

As Hitler was given a lot of money for the restoration of Germany, allowed not to pay reparations (Hitler!), And then pushed to the East ... And Stalin could endlessly “negotiate” with him and offer a variety of concessions, our Anglo-Saxon partners had much more powerful leverage on the foreign policy of the Reich.

That is, the economic and political crisis of Yugoslavia 80's is not at all accidental. It was originally intended. Mnogohodovochka. And Yugoslavia was never able to become a truly independent state - the western partners overthrew the Yugoslav economy with a slight movement of the hand. Everything suddenly became very bad. And the population, accustomed to a satisfying, comfortable life, immediately had a lot of questions to the leadership of the country, after which a nationalist map was played ...

But once again: the break with the USSR in 1949, the subsequent close "friendship" with the West and the subsequent complete rout - all these links one chains. The Yugoslav leadership, led by the "genius" Tito, was bred as children. And if someone does not know, then the main opponent of the JNA (the Yugoslav People's Army) was supposed to be the ATS, but not NATO, something like that. So those who are crying for "torn Serbia", brush away the tear from your eyes.

And now, apparently, even in 90-ies, the Serbian leadership could not understand anything, all the time it seemed to them that this was a “mistake” and it was possible to agree with the West. At about the same time, at the end of WWII, the Germans struggled to "negotiate" with the allies. And not by chance - the rise of the German military machine in the 30-e was impossible without the help of the Anglo-Saxons: financial, technical, and political. And the Germans had a complete misunderstanding of the situation: we are “our own”, we are at war with the Russians, as you asked ... what's the matter? Why do you destroy a system in which you yourself have invested billions?

China and the United States. Strange couple


That is what we see today in China, differs only in the scale of what is happening. No more. China is actively using the very “winning strategy” that the Germans, the Japanese and the Yugoslavs tried to use before it. And until a certain point she worked. And then she stopped working.

Just because, acting quite reasonably, the Anglo-Saxons never engaged in "political charity." And they always have to pay dearly for their “help”. A sign of the rationality and independence of the Chinese leadership could serve as a sudden “dismount” from this very theme and a reversal to certain independent actions. But as we all see, this is not happening.

Even in relation to Germany and Japan (not to mention Yugoslavia) China Today is too big, and America today has neither the desire nor the ability to continue the previous economic relationship with it. And this is not Donald Trump's caprice, as many might think, this is the harsh need to save the remnants of the American economy. This is not an “economic war”, it is an attempt to completely revise / break the previous relationship.

"The remnants of the American economy" - it is not at all a word for it. If somewhere arrived, somewhere must fall. The rapid rise of China is explained very simply: there dragged production from the United States, the EU and even Japan. It was "dragged". And, respectively, in Europe, the United States and Japan shut down. What led to the loss of taxes and jobs. At a certain point, the situation became critical, and Trump is not one person. Trump is behind a very powerful American lobby, and it is pointless to “clean up” him, the current policy is not the idea of ​​a single person. In general, this is a national “rescue strategy”.

One can argue long and tediously whether the Americans will succeed in this or not, but this is not the essence. The bottom line is that Trump (oddly enough!) Is not alone. He, sorry for the directness, not a damn lonely! Behind its policy are very serious (money!) People. And we have everything Trump da Trump ... It’s not the whole thing about Trump, or rather, not in it alone. Such is American policy today (foreign and domestic), although it meets with fierce resistance even within America itself.

And China has no chance at all to "continue what was." Impossible is by definition. Everything - gone "that era." As the Chinese themselves say, "the color of the sky has changed." Of course, it was great to receive the very investments, open new production and increase exports. But everything ever ends. China already too big for this little planet. And you have to be a very naive person so as not to understand this. Developed countries are beginning to violently defend the remnants of production and close markets. The era of free trade is over.

But for this turn of events, China was totally not ready. In principle, there are no “solutions” for the new era. There is no “transition to a new model” (without the rapid growth of exports). For some reason, in the US and China trade war, everyone automatically supports China (many). It is absolutely incomprehensible why: in the era of sanctions, China did not do anything particularly good for us - at first it seemed that it would not accept “international” sanctions against the Russian Federation, then it turned out - it did! And now what? Second, the United States, as it were, is not obliged to ensure a huge positive trade balance for the PRC. Well, they do not have to, and everything, no matter how we relate to them.

And here we must also say that China is leading a "stupid war" - a war in which it is impossible to win by definition. Today's mega-export of Chinese goods to the United States has long been paid for by the Chinese themselves ... through a credit facility. Well, it can not continue by definition. It can not, because it is a complete economic absurdity. At one time, the United States was able to “launch” the Japanese economy and раск raskochegar ’it because: a) the American economy was much more b) it was healthy economy. That is, in 50-e - 60-e years of 20-century, the situation was fundamentally different.

Today, China’s real economy is already more American, and the latter is very difficult to call healthy. That is, theoretically, today the American economy cannot fulfill the role of a “locomotive” and a “donor”. Generally can not, although very many of this is not able to understand. And China, in turn, is categorically not ready to take on the role of the same “locomotive”, it is fundamentally not ready. The Chinese for this overly selfish.

Whatever anyone may say, but after the WWII, the United States for a long time in one way or another served as a locomotive. That was, that was. For a very long time, the American market was the largest and most solvent! And the United States "let" on him Korean, German, Japanese and other goods. The product is not enough to produce - it must be sold. Somewhere. In the actions of the United States there was very little charity, and yet!

Does China have a real strategy?


China is categorically not ready for something like this; on the contrary, it wants to sell more and buy less. In order to play the role of a “locomotive”, China would have (as everyone already understood) open its market and start buying Japanese, Russian, Korean, European goods. Then yes. Then China could replace the United States, and the yuan could replace the dollar. But the Chinese do not want to do this in principle. And the United States, in its current state of the economy, will no longer play the role of a donor.

Many were surprised when Trump demanded “protection” from Europeans / Saudis. Somehow it looked strange to the superpower and leader of the free world. So, the United States is no longer a superpower, and the maintenance of the former army is extremely expensive for them. That is, Trump did not announce some new realities, no, realities already have a place to be, Trump just pointed to them. But neither the Europeans, nor the Japanese, nor the Chinese were ready for this (and here V.V. Putin even ran a little ahead).

But the Chinese just observed some kind of "hard breaking", they apparently assumed another 20 years to move along the same trajectory. And we, too, some analysts repeated, like parrots, that by 2030 (35?), China will bypass the US ... That's all, the movie is over. Trump (and those who stand behind him) clearly made it clear that the old trade will be gone. And then not a whim and do not twist a single showman. This is just new objective realities. American economy already less Chinese and she is seriously ill.

But the ability of the Chinese leadership to restructure the economy into a new regime is in serious doubt. The very fact of a serious change in the economic course (and a political one as well) causes doubts. China has achieved a great deal and has risen very strongly over the past three decades, but the inertia of this movement will not last long, and the external source is actually turned off.

However, it seems that the Chinese leadership (elites) are so naive that they continue to think within the paradigm of the “big Yugoslavia”. And by the way, yes, China, oddly enough, is also very multinational (although not in such proportion). And between the regions there are also giant (growing) contradictions. And there is practically no opportunity to flood problems with money.
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  1. +9
    2 August 2019 15: 31
    I liked the article! good The author put everything on the shelves! Ego theses sound logical and convincing! The analysis of the situation with Yugoslavia is quite objective! hi
    1. +4
      2 August 2019 18: 09
      I'm afraid.
      The author is well done, not afraid. But few like you will accept the argumentation of the development of events proposed by the author.
      There are continuous delights in China and in the media in China, and even the USA and Europe are so good at all * good *.
      At one time, Europeans and Americans bought the SFRY, Japan, South Korea, China and so on, the little things here and there were bought by the state, and at the right moment for themselves they were selling certain countries. The time has come when you want to sell China.
      The author correctly points out that the Chinese are ready for much to preserve their * well-being *. Today they are being pushed into conflict with RUSSIA. How long will the Chinese rest?
      The Chinese are assimilating peoples in the occupied territories in * present * East China and have huge problems that are only exacerbated.
      Will the Chinese be able to solve their problems without war? Judging by how they were once sold to Americans, they will not be able to. The technology for translating internal problems into war has been known for a long time and has been tested many times ....
      1. +6
        2 August 2019 19: 41
        Hi Dmitry! hi I classed the article, because the author showed a logical diagram that, in my opinion, is quite intelligible, explaining the events. Yes, it is different from "conventional", but that does not mean that "common" is correct! Who will take what does not matter! There are still many people in the world who believe that the Earth is flat!
        Here you speak "At one time, Europeans and Americans bought the SFRY, Japan, South Korea, China, and so on trifles here and there they bought states, and at the right moment they sold these or those countries." ! Yes, not only Americans and Europeans did this! By the way, Russia is also a European country ... the former empire! It was China itself, carried out the expansion, with all its attendant things! For the entire time of its thousand-year existence, it has expanded and absorbed the surroundings. What has changed over the past 20-30 years? Dragon woke up from a long hibernation! And he is hungry, very hungry! Another sharp-toothed predator has appeared on the planet! Who bites, who eats? We'll see! I have no illusions about the Chinese! Their model of expansion, only in details differs from the western! What they want? They want Pax Americana, Pax China! Are you sure that for you, it will be better? Me not.
        1. +1
          3 August 2019 21: 22
          Quote: pytar
          Are you sure that for you, it will be better? Me not.

          And for you?
          We are sure that, first of all, we need to focus not on exports, globalization, "partners", but on the domestic market, on our own currency, backed largely by gold. Of course, complete self-isolation is not needed, but, most importantly, the production of goods and services for its people within the country, by 75 percent, and the remaining 25 are exported.
          This cannot be done right away, but, strive for this!
      2. -2
        3 August 2019 12: 42
        Quote: Vasily50
        Today they are being pushed into conflict with RUSSIA

        Example
        Quote: Vasily50
        How long will the Chinese rest?

        They wanted to spit on what they were told from the west.
        Quote: Vasily50
        * present * East China has huge problems that are only exacerbated.

        Example
    2. -2
      3 August 2019 12: 40
      Quote: pytar
      The author put everything on the shelves! Ego theses sound logical and convincing!

      The author is all drawn out.
      Quote: pytar
      The analysis of the situation with Yugoslavia is quite objective!

      I agree with that.
    3. +2
      4 August 2019 18: 30
      Comparing Yugoslavia with modern China is nonsense. The author writes about loans to Yugoslavia and for some reason compares it with China ... and even if he wondered who owes more to China, the USA or the USA owed to China .... China has invested more than a trillion dollars in US government debt, more than anyone or another in the world. Chinese state-owned banks are the largest in the world, they themselves can and lend to whom you want and their companies, both African and European. The author writes that the West began to dictate the conditions of Yugoslavia, which regions to subsidize and which not. Can you imagine this in relation to China? The USA started a trade war against China, because they simply do not have other instruments of pressure on China. Yugoslavia was developed only in some industries, sold its products to a limited number of countries. China produces everything from five-cent products to aircraft carriers and sells its products and services around the world. The main problem of China is not that they are credited, but that they need an honest open market to continue the expansion of their goods and maintain sales. It is on this pain point that the United States is trying to put pressure now. They have no more leverage. So to compare that Yugoslavia with modern China, I repeat, is nonsense.
      It was also amused by the fact that the author criticized everyone and China for the fact that he follows, in his opinion, the path of Yugoslavia. And he criticized the United States for the fact that they are no longer a superpower and that it is already unprofitable for them to maintain an army. Who then follows the right road? since both economic leaders did not please the author. Maybe Russia? ...)
      And well, I would criticize, so then suggest your own path, the right path. But the only thing the author suggested:
      "In order to play the role of a" locomotive ", China would have to (as everyone already understood) open its market and start buying Japanese, Russian, Korean, European goods. Then yes. Then China could replace the United States, and the yuan could replace the dollar . "
      That is, follow the thought, the author began his story with a loaned Yugoslavia and compared it with China. And then he suggested that the only way out was, it turns out, to start buying other people's goods from other countries with these "credit" money! And this is in conditions when the American sales market was partially closed for their own Chinese manufacturers! BRILLIANT !!! It turns out that China is doing everything wrong, lending / subsidizing its companies and does not want to buy goods abroad that it can produce itself. It turns out that you do not need to pour this money into your companies, but spend on foreign goods! G E N I A L N O!
      1. +1
        4 August 2019 18: 32
        Still in the article there are not enough figures about what was the share of Yugoslavia in world GDP and what is now the share of China. For clarity, the comparison, so to speak.
  2. +10
    2 August 2019 15: 37
    Orthodox Yugoslavia
    ... why? Croats, Slovenian Catholics, Bosnian Muslims .. SFRY was a multi-confessional country ... According to faiths and divorced, Catholics, Muslims, Orthodox, cut each other with great pleasure .. for faith .. during the collapse ... And before China West from the United States, apparently plainly, until the hands reach ...
    1. +6
      2 August 2019 15: 45
      In Russia, which helped the Slav brothers to gain freedom, there were Muslims and Buddhists and Catholics, and even Protestants with pagans
      Somehow request
      1. +2
        2 August 2019 16: 00
        Oleg the Chinese also know how to count money. And about the trade war, they had to prepare silk roads for their goods in advance, so that the rest of the world would pay all the costs of the trade war from the United States.
      2. +1
        2 August 2019 18: 31
        ...
        Recall: it seems to be socialist, Slavic and Orthodox Югославия
        ... It's about this, not about
        In Russia, which helped the Slav brothers to gain freedom, there were Muslims and Buddhists and Catholics, and even Protestants with pagans
        ... Do not confuse the SFRY (included 6 republics: Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Macedonia, Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina) with the FRY, which has not yet been divided into Serbia and Montenegro, was mainly an Orthodox country. request
      3. +3
        2 August 2019 19: 15
        So, but not so. SFRY and the USSR had one religion - socialism. Perhaps of different faiths and popes. And the old religions, both countries were overwritten, because competitors in education are not needed. Those. old religions were secondary. Although their mention, I do not consider it a mistake. Like.
        1. 0
          3 August 2019 11: 25
          It seems to me that the SFRY wanted to unite all nationalities and faiths and languages. When relatives used to say ---- it’s always a word Yugoslavs It was. But the child himself has a reminder. There were 2 records: transparent green and transparent yellow, with songs in a foreign melodic language. But some words sounded very good in Russian! And the inscription: songs in the Yugoslav language! But I learned to read at 4,5 years old! And read everything that I saw !!! In some old book there was an inscription --- a translation from Serbo-Croatian. For some reason there was such a policy ...
          And it is worth remembering that at that time there was a resettlement of Albanians in Yugoslavia on the territory of the Serbs! They were Muslims and did not mix with other nations and languages.
          1. +1
            5 August 2019 21: 15
            I do not argue. I recall that 10% called themselves Yugoslavs. And in the program Time, they often mentioned refugees from Albania - do not do good ..
            1. 0
              5 August 2019 21: 35
              Quote: Hypatius
              .... And in the program Time, they often mentioned refugees from Albania - do not do good ..
              Have they been pitied or reprimanded? Very interesting facts ..... I'm embarrassed to ask when it was .... I remembered that. In the late 50s, a large beautiful book with pictures appeared at home --- "Albanian fairy tales." Albanians are portrayed there as beautiful. Several generations in the family have read it and it is now at home.
              1. +1
                6 August 2019 19: 11
                Almost neutral, but with a hint of the dictatorial regime of Khoja, from which people are fleeing. School talked about the wrong socialism, poverty and preparation for war with everyone, with digging bunkers. Just like S. Korea today. And I, the tales of the Crimean Tatars, also full of positive, without raids and the slave trade.
                1. 0
                  7 August 2019 19: 16
                  It is interesting to see if there is anything Albanian in the WORLD LITERATURE? In a 200-volume edition? And every day I am looking at home for a little book "Albanian epos". A lot of things have remained from my grandparents, I have not read everything and will not read it soon. Probably.
        2. +1
          5 August 2019 09: 03
          "Old religions" were so secondary that the division-disintegration of Yugoslavia just happened according to these "old religions". Yeah. And what an intensity of passions swept over! ...
          Socialism is just one way of organizing society; besides having with half a dozen significantly different variations. Yeah.
          1. 0
            5 August 2019 21: 28
            Somewhere there is my comment about China and the USSR, that religions were invisibly present, .. Although there was atheism .. Find it out! I just wrote --- "wanted to unite?" What happened? Broz Tito "sewed a coat to the button." Did they write then about his program of admitting Albanian refugees? I do not know. I only read about it this year. The Albanians stubbornly did not want to dismount, as it is written in the book of the author Myalo. The Orthodox found themselves in the worst position. How did Tito behave in relation to religions?
          2. 0
            5 August 2019 21: 35
            Religion Map? No, I haven’t. Maybe along administrative (tribal) borders, with the exception of enclaves. Passion - a couple of millions killed or more? Or the heat of the television picture and the operations of special services. There is only one way of organizing society - hierarchy. With feedbacks - democracy, without - a counter. And socialism, by all signs and functions, is a religion that has got into governance more than others (theocracy, Iran). It's simple, do not multiply entities.
    2. 0
      4 August 2019 09: 24
      They’re just getting there, but it’s not for nothing that in China there is an institute for studying the collapse of the USSR, they are studying the mistakes of others there. Recently, the article was in the Komsomol as China Muslims re-educates. And so you are already intensely warming Tibet and Uyghuria, but it is not for nothing that the death penalty exists in China, and even public. Take into account our experience.
  3. +4
    2 August 2019 15: 55
    A very interesting look at part of the global political economy from an unexpected angle.
  4. +10
    2 August 2019 16: 15
    The article is at least interesting. True, something (on the little things) scratches the eye:
    It seems that socialist, Slavic and Orthodox Yugoslavia had much better relations with the same FRG than with the USSR.
    But was the USSR Orthodox? It's weird. And all my life I thought that in the USSR religion was at the fringes of public life. Yes, and in Yugoslavia denominations - like some shag.
    Once again: the article as a whole seemed both convincing and instructive.
    1. DPN
      0
      2 August 2019 21: 48
      But was the USSR Orthodox? It's weird. And all my life I thought that in the USSR religion was at the fringes of public life.
      So it was, YOU are right, I lived in a city with a population of 270000 thousand people where there was not a single church, neither the authorities nor the people needed them, but when a mess appeared in the USSR, they put an end to the train car, for Church today is the salvation of the church, and therefore the church in this city began to appear as from a cornucopia.
      1. +2
        2 August 2019 23: 22
        In my opinion, centuries of Orthodoxy did not pass for the USSR without a trace. Maybe it means Orthodox culture. Way of thinking. In the USSR there was socialism, atheism. China also has socialism and atheism. But ---- what a difference. The old religions are still invisibly present and present.
  5. 0
    2 August 2019 16: 28
    The comparison of China and Yugoslavia is not very correct. Yugoslavia is different languages, religions and peoples. China is still more monolithic.
    But in economic terms, the author is right. China's economy is Western factories and technology. Without the desire of corporations to save on labor, China would stagnate in the 60-70s.
    1. +8
      2 August 2019 17: 36
      It is incorrect to compare China and Yugoslavia. And not even because we compare the midget and the giant, but because the character of the economies is completely different. The author does not fully understand that megacorporations do not care where the goods are produced, production costs are important first of all. And the latter are such that no matter how Trump tries, they remain many times more in the United States compared with China and, especially, with Bangladesh, Pakistan or Vietnam. Directive (team) methods will not solve this problem. It is possible to transfer the production of some household appliances to the USA (they actually stopped producing them there), but it will simply be uncompetitive.
      1. +1
        2 August 2019 18: 33
        And the latter are such that no matter how Trump tries, they remain many times more in the United States compared with China and, especially, with Bangladesh, Pakistan or Vietnam.
        so Trump is trying not to return the producers, but to weaken China, which for America in the foreseeable future can pose a major threat. It’s better that American corporations raise the industry of India, Thailand and Indonesia than they cultivate another superpower (so, they’ve already raised it, but Donald knows better).
      2. 0
        3 August 2019 11: 41
        no comparisons - China needs another 10-15 years of previous life-work for the "dad" to bring the proportions of the "national economy" to the advanced COUNTRIES, THOSE WALKED to these "proportions" for centuries, changing the consciousness of its citizens. Consciousness- and productivity and consumption levels, etc.
        20 \ 80% is needed - the village / city, and now approx. 600/800 million people.
        600 MILLION IS THE MENTALITY OF VILLAGE RESIDENTS (INCLUDING ISOLATIONISM - MY HUT FROM THE EDGE) - AND IT NEEDS TIME. IT IS NOT.


        it all depends on the teachers - how they raised (15-20 years ago, children in village schools) and how they were changed in their settings in 2010-19 for new tasks (did they see the Utyks from the USA?).
        This is how the modern "vanguard" of the CCP and all the other Chinese will think and work.
        of course, if ideologists saw these tasks (and the Chinese Ministry of Food received and further transmitted tsu)
    2. +2
      2 August 2019 18: 27
      Quote: Sergey 777
      The comparison of China and Yugoslavia is not very correct. Yugoslavia is different languages, religions and peoples. China is still more monolithic.
      1) Macau, Hong Kong 2) Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Christianity, Paganism-Shamanism, Islam (how many religions do you think are if it is not enough?) 3) languages ​​spoken by 56 recognized ethnic groups. The languages ​​of China are known as Zhongyu (Chinese р 中 中 中 语; Chinese. 中 中 語; Pinyin Zhōngyǔ) and their study is a separate academic discipline in China. Zhongyu encompasses 8 primary language families, diverse morphologically and phonetically, has mutual understanding with each other. The languages ​​most studied and supported by the state, including Chinese, Mongolian, Tibetan, Uigur and Zhuang. There are 292 living languages ​​in China and one extinct language (Jurchen language), according to Ethnologue. (Is 292 less than in Yugoslavia?) 4) Officially, there are 56 nationalities in China. Since the Han people make up approximately 92% of the country's population, the rest of the peoples are usually called national minorities. (again much smaller?)

      Z. At least I read something about China before expressing my opinion ..
      1. 0
        3 August 2019 06: 23
        Macau and Hong Kong will not dare to leave tiny points on the map and leave China. There is Islam in China, but what% of Muslims are there from the total population, eh? Well, there is mostly one language there, the Chinese standard language (known in China as putonghua) and 56 are the dialects of one language.
        1. +1
          3 August 2019 09: 58
          Quote: Sergey 777
          Macau and Hong Kong will not dare to leave tiny points on the map and leave China. There is Islam in China, but what% of Muslims are there from the total population, eh? Well, there is mostly one language there, the Chinese standard language (known in China as putonghua) and 56 are the dialects of one language.

          Let's start from the end - 1) some until the 90s of the last century were convinced that Belarusian and Ukrainian were the dialects of the Russian language (many still think so) regarding Yugoslavia. The Serbian language is understandable to people living in Serbia, Bosnia and Croatia. The Croatian language is understood in Croatia, Bosnia and Serbia. The same can be said about the Bosnian language. those languages ​​of Yugoslavia, if they are not adverbs of one, are then very, very closely related. 2) What is the percentage of Islam? Sufficient that the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region was constantly a headache for China. Do you ignore Tibet at all? (Well, ok, I won’t remember it either, its desire for separatism / independence) Do you think there are no graters between Taoists, Buddhists, Confucianism and shamanism? Reduce all religious conflicts to Christianity against Islam? (evaluate your objectivity yourself) 3) Macau and Hong Kong are tiny points? Without a doubt, but at the same time this is 1 country and 2 states, the coexistence of different state models in one country in no way helps to strengthen statehood rather shakes it, a fine example of the current events in Hong Kong.
          1. 0
            3 August 2019 10: 20
            Let's start from the end - 1) some until the 90s of the last century were sure that Belarusian and Ukrainian were the dialects of the Russian language (many still think so),

            So why bother with a garden? The Russian Empire very confidently existed with a bunch of languages. And if not for grandfather Lenin and German money, it would continue to exist even with the tsar, even without him. As well as China with 56 languages.
            Well, with Tibet, you generally bent. Wanting independence is not harmful. It is harmful to not have an army and economy that will ensure this independence.
            Hong Kong and Macau do have wide autonomy. But in both cases this autonomy is given for 50 years. Hong Kong from 1997 to 2047, Macau from 1999 to 2049. And after these years, autonomy will dissolve.
            1. +1
              4 August 2019 12: 51
              Quote: Sergey 777
              Hong Kong and Macau do have wide autonomy. But in both cases this autonomy is given for 50 years. Hong Kong from 1997 to 2047, Macau from 1999 to 2049. And after these years, autonomy will dissolve.

              It’s just that it dissolves .... you write from a vacuum?

              Quote: Sergey 777
              The Russian Empire very confidently existed with a bunch of languages.

              I personally still think that with the Russian language (it seems to me that you are confused in terms of language and dialect, but there is also a talk)
              Quote: Sergey 777
              Well, with Tibet, you generally bent. Wanting independence is not harmful. It is harmful to not have an army and economy that will ensure this independence.
              let's talk about afghanistan? who, not having an economy and an army (in the usual sense), has fought for his independence, is fighting and will fight, but right now it is even probably winning. In fact, you apparently do not know that entry into China is forever banned only for statements in the media that support the "independence of Tibet"?
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                4 August 2019 19: 22
                laughing laughing laughing
                Their autonomy will dissolve, and not people, and you understand this perfectly.
                Now about Afghanistan. Struggling. Yeah. With such results it would be better to remain "addicted" and not fight.
                In fact, you apparently do not know that entry into China is forever banned only for expressing support in the media for "Tibet's independence"?

                But this only proves that China holds its territory in good hands. And this quote does not contradict the first comment.
          2. +1
            4 August 2019 17: 14
            In the book of Father Joachim, "History of the Mongols," I read that the Chinese literally absorb other peoples and aliens into themselves. The author, an Orthodox priest (who accompanied the diplomats of the Cossacks) wrote about the integration of foreigners into Chinese society, often they could even change their faith (!) He wrote with resentment that he had to wear a Chinese robe instead of a cassock at a divine service --- the cassock was worn out, dilapidated, was in rags! And the king did not answer the request!
      2. +1
        3 August 2019 11: 01
        SUNSTROM + + + + + !!!Loved the comment! I wonder how many ALFAVITES are used in China? So far I have counted 4: actually Chinese, Mongolian, Tibetan and mb. Uyghur (after all, the Uighurs are Muslims) ??? As far as I know, the Chinese alphabet itself is also in Vtnam?
        And one more question. In ancient times in the Tangut Empire, the alphabet PHAGSPA was used for religious purposes. Now it is the territory of China. How about this one?
        1. +1
          4 August 2019 03: 04
          In addition to the Hui and Manchu, who,
          like the Han, use "putonghua" - normative Chinese
          language, the remaining 53 minorities have their own languages, moreover
          22 of them use their national script. Teaching in national schools in China is conducted in local languages, in
          textbooks and manuals are also being published. At the same time, a Chinese language course is included in the program of national schools;
          the spread of "putonghua" and regulatory Chinese characters.
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            4 August 2019 03: 14
            According to the 5th All-China Population Census conducted in 2000, among 55 national minorities there are 18 nationalities with a population of over 1 million people. These are Zhuangs, Manchus, Hui, Miao, Uyghurs, and Tujia, Mongols, Tibetans, Bui, Dong, Yao, Koreans, Bai, Hani, Li, Kazakhs and Dai. The most numerous ethnic group are Zhuangs - 16,179 million people.
            Other 17 nationalities number from 100 thousand to 1 million people each. These are the peoples of She, Fox, Gelao, Lahu, Dun, Bai, Shui, Nashi, Qiang, Tu, Sibo, Mulao, Kyrgyz, Daur, Jingpo, Salara and Maonan.
            20 nationalities number from less than 10 thousand to 100 thousand people, including Bulan, Tajiks, Pumi, Achan, well, Evenks, Jing, Jino, Dean, Uzbeks, Russians, Yugurs, Baoan, Menba, Orochons, Duluns, Tatars , hezhe, Khaoshan (excluding Khaoshan living in Taiwan) and forehead. The smallest is the forehead nationality - 2965 people.
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              4 August 2019 06: 17
              Klvsssss !!!!!! good We have to think it over! laughing
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          4 August 2019 13: 01
          Uigurs? - Sunnis, in most
          Quote: Reptiloid
          But how many ALPHABITES are used in China? So far I have counted 4: actually Chinese, Mongolian, Tibetan and mb. Uyghur (after all, the Uighurs are Muslims) ??? As far as I know, the Chinese alphabet itself is also in Vtnam?

          and the devil only knows to be honest about the alphabets, did you mean Mongolian Manchu ?, according to one data, one to another .. China only seems open, in reality it is shrouded in a curtain worse than our "iron" one.
          1. +2
            4 August 2019 15: 50
            Han, Hui and Masjur use traditional putonghua.
            Strictly speaking, there is no alphabet in Chinese. Hieroglyphs contain whole concepts.
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              4 August 2019 16: 53
              Quote: vm-bt
              Han, Hui and Masjur use traditional putonghua.
              Strictly speaking, there is no alphabet in Chinese. Hieroglyphs contain whole concepts.

              I remembered that at the beginning of the century there was communication with Chinese students at work. Yes, really practical. Studied at the university, worked, spoke good Russian on a variety of topics. They told me that they have NO religion. They have ---MAO !!! There was also a conversation at work with a student from Hong Kong, even more practical ... laughing One of my favorite books --- "Aviation of the Great Neighbor, 1 hour" "
              I also remembered the characteristics of the Chinese in science fiction. Robert Sheckley, Immortality Corporation ". Paul Anderson, different works! There the Chinese are exploring the Cosmos. And Mars is in general populated by the Chinese. David Zindell also wrote about the Chinese worlds."
              1. +1
                4 August 2019 17: 09
                About Mao and Dan - this is now to the older generations, like you and me. I was not able to communicate with Chinese youth at the beginning of the century. I talked later. Based on my communication, I dare to assume that modern Chinese youth perceives everything a little differently. Although, my last contacts took place in the south, with young people who graduated from English-speaking universities ...
                And so is their urban youth - they are with burning eyes, they have dreams, plans, confidence in the future. They honor their ancestors, travel 1-2 times a year to their small homeland. They study hard, combining study with work ...
                Doesn't this remind you of anything?
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                  4 August 2019 17: 36
                  Quote: vm-bt

                  And so is their urban youth - they are with burning eyes, they have dreams, plans, confidence in the future. They honor their ancestors, travel 1-2 times a year to their small homeland. They study hard, combining study with work ...
                  Doesn't this remind you of anything?

                  Oh yes, of course it does! Old Soviet films !!! A. I. Fursov in one of his stories said that now they translate and print our Soviet science fiction in China. And they celebrated the 100th anniversary of our Revolution! Yes, and communist portraits hang from them. And 3 Chinese beat American am for bad words about Stalin and broke his nose! good So you can write in a search engine!
                  I understand that you have been to China and know the language !!!!!!!!! Well, I talked with those who were in Tibet, but here I could not learn the Tibetan language (although I understood the syllable letter)
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                    4 August 2019 19: 03
                    Yes, they have a very respectful attitude towards Stalin.
                    I haven’t heard such a fight, but I’m sure that it was supposed to end like that.
                    However, for the young people whom they had the chance to communicate with, the discovery was that the USSR liberated them from the Japanese in 1945.
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                      4 August 2019 22: 06
                      I specifically wrote about the fight about the search engine! And it will be in chrome and in YouTube!
                      Quote: vm-bt
                      Yes, they have a very respectful attitude towards Stalin ...... However, for the young people whom they had the chance to communicate with, the discovery was that the USSR freed them from the Japanese in 1945.
                      Well, of course --- corn de-Stalinization has already begun here, and those who remembered knew either died or did not think about it anymore. Kukuruznik rescued Stalin's endeavors, the labor of millions of Soviet people and the material investments made earlier. But it is interesting that since the 30s, Soviet specialists have helped China, is the youth known?
                      When I talked with those students ---- there were several guys and 2 girls. They were very proud of China and the impression that they did not know about past friendship.
                      It was expensive for them to travel to China on vacation, the tuition paid, of course, for them.
                      China's aviation was created thanks to the USSR.
    3. +4
      2 August 2019 18: 28
      Yugoslavia is different languages, religions and peoples. China is still more monolithic.
      so in China the religious “vinaigrette” is spun even more interestingly widespread Buddhism, Confucianism, Taoism, Islam, and they are all completely different, unlike theistic movements in Yugoslavia. And the initial composition is far from uniform, if for us all of them are like clones of “narrow-eyed yellow-faced Chinese,” and they consider themselves (not without reason) a multitude of distinctive peoples with different cultures, languages ​​and often millennia-old history.
      But in economic terms, the author is right.

      But in economic terms, absolutely nothing in common. The modest economy and non-independent policy of Yugoslavia was built on a balancing act between the Western and Soviet blocs, i.e. often on the choke and getting support from the latter.
      China itself has long been a full-fledged center of power in front of which others are tacking.
      China's economy is Western factories and technology. Without the desire of corporations to save on labor, China would stagnate in the 60-70s.
      this statement was true 10 years ago, but now the workforce in China is far from the cheapest, foreign corporations are actively moving from the heavenly places, and local companies are taking their place. Cars, planes, software, the most modern electronics, including processors - the Chinese have long had their own things.
      1. +1
        2 August 2019 18: 45
        China itself has long been a full-fledged center of power in front of which others tack


        No, it's not.
        1. +1
          2 August 2019 22: 51
          Many countries in Chinese colonial dependence will not agree with you, and Chinese economic expansion in scale can already give odds to the Soviet Union.
        2. +1
          2 August 2019 23: 41
          Quote: Olezhek
          ....No, it's not.
          I liked the article very much. Although I do not agree with everything. I think that China should nevertheless be approached somewhat with other measures. This is the oldest country, the oldest civilization. Disproportionate time with Europe and Russia. They, the Chinese, will come up with something .....
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          3 August 2019 10: 10
          everything in this world is relative. Regarding the Russian Federation, China is a full-fledged center of power. concerning Germany, Italy, Japan, Great Britain. There are only some doubts about the United States.
          However, I personally do not find a direct 100% dependence of China on any other country. Yes, at some points China is connected (it is not possible to conduct international trade without concluding a trade agreement, so yes of course there is a connection)
          And "if" China's statistics on the size / growth of the population / industry are at least relatively correct (without the additions - which are likely in any system). China is quite self-sufficient, and this is not the first time in the history of China. So, personally, I think - "The Naglo-Saxons, playing with the dragon, set themselves up, and now they are trying to save themselves before the dragon exhales and spreads its wings."
          And yes, I agree with your parallels about Yugoslavia and others.
        4. +1
          4 August 2019 16: 25
          The natural centers of power are states - civilizations. As a rule, these are the centers (but not all) of the former empires. Of the living - England, USA, Germany, Russia, Iran, Turkey, China.
          Spain, Portugal, France, Italy, Austria, Sweden and the Netherlands are now difficult to record in power centers. Ancient Mongolia == China.
          Japan has long wanted to be a center of power. But it doesn’t work out. Although, perhaps they were just unlucky in time. There is little space on the top of the mountain
    4. 0
      2 August 2019 23: 27
      Sergey 777! In China, different languages ​​and peoples and religions. With such a population, there can be no similarity. Having common characters, they will not understand the oral speech of different nationalities.
      tongue Europeans are all Chinese on one face wassat
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    2 August 2019 17: 02
    Nonsense. The Chinese never hid their plans. For the communists there were still having a serious problem - industry was almost completely absent and, as a result, the proletariat. And how do you order then to build socialism? Now, through the efforts of the bourgeoisie, they have this and that. In fact - this is such a Chinese NEP. What comrade Xi said in the report at the congress - there is an industrial basis, it is time to move on to the next stage - to finally begin to build socialism. Which they will do. I have no doubt - successfully. It is not necessary to consider the Chinese Communists as complete idiots, unable to draw conclusions from the last 50 years of history ..
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    1. +5
      2 August 2019 21: 02
      I'll put in my "five kopecks" too.
      More precisely, not ours, but Andrey Ninth.

      ACADEMY OF DEVELOPMENT MANAGEMENT - INSTITUTE OF NON-POLICY
      Understanding the essence of the "trade war" between the US and China
      The Nobel Laureate in Economics, Douglas North, has long honestly admitted:
      “Neither the economic theory of the West can explain what is happening in China”
      And the point here is that Adam Smith’s classical political economy and Marx’s theory of expanded reproduction of capital ignore the Asian mode of production, where the exchange, accounting and accumulation of natural values ​​(a bag of rice, a basket of eggs in the bazaar) is carried out with metallic money (Chinese qian), then how financing for the construction of infrastructure (roads, canals, bridges, dams) is carried out by paper surrogates (China. Chao).
      A double-circuit monetary system with the provision of surrogates with the combined power of the state is possible only under the conditions of the political regime of "eastern despotism", which is now called "socialism with the Chinese characteristics of the new era" in the PRC.
      The theory of capital cannot explain precisely this cunning, disguised as the practice of international trade, the specifics of double financing of China's development (with cards in its hands and up its sleeves).
      Since the days of the ancient Chinese strategist Sun Tzu (VI century BC), Chinese politics have been an “endless path of cunning”.
      So today, the State Committee for Development Affairs (Gosplan), the Ministry of Finance and the People’s Bank of the People's Republic of China conduct triple bookkeeping on two “white” circuits of circulation of accounting units of wealth and “gray” records on payment accounts.

      Yuan emission along the contours is separate without the flow of funds.
      In addition to the visible - white - part of international settlements calculated by the statistics of the Gross Domestic Product in USD, China holds a huge gray contour of payments tied to the invisible - black - liquidity of natural origin (including opiates of the “golden triangle”). And when it comes to the current “trade war” of the US / PRC, smart people clutch at analyzes of what Trump is doing to the public and how China is openly reacting, but they don’t see what is being done in the shadows. That is why our “Kremlin dreamers” tirelessly talk about the machinations of the United States, but are silent about China, because they do not understand what “dragons” do on the endless path of cunning. And how is it that the West (and our friends are the US dollar along with it).

      Here is an example of analytics from our Harvard economists:
      Vladislav Inozemtsev, Doctor of Economics, Director of the Center for Research in the Post-Industrial Society:
      “Last week, while Russia was discussing the past war, a new type of war loomed on the horizon. Trade negotiations between the USA and China, which were already awaiting an agreement, were interrupted, and Washington imposed duties at 25% on $ 300-billion-dollar Chinese exports and promised to extend the same fees to all goods from China.
      D. Trump looks satisfied - and he can be understood. Given the methods used by the Chinese in competition (from the theft of technology to manipulating the course and protecting their own market), all of the current steps should have been taken by the Americans ten years ago ......

      Now the question is moving on a different plane: which of the parties to the conflict will the aggravation of US-Chinese relations cost more? It seems to me that the answer is obvious: to China. And it’s not at all because the decline in exports to the United States by 15-20% ($ 75-110 billion per year) is critical for its economy - most likely because a signal was sent to investors: the world is not ready to forgive the Middle Kingdom for its economic pranks. This signal will be heard in the markets, which is very important, since the Chinese economy after 2008 grew almost exclusively in debt ......

      Of course, China is a powerful, if not the most powerful, economically powerful country in the world. Even the gigantic debts of corporations and private individuals (in relation to GDP today they are 253% versus 150% in the USA) can remain sustainable, since the state is ready to continue to pump up the economy with money. However, Washington’s actions pose the Beijing Politburo with a choice: either gradually descend from heaven to earth and cool down the economy to growth of 2-3%, or continue to the current course and wait for the imminent collapse ......

      Today, China exploits the principle of too big to fail economically, believing that its interests should be respected because if serious problems arise in the Chinese economy, they will become global. However, in Beijing, apparently, they lost an adequate perception of the situation, forgetting that in addition to the economic partner of the Western world, China became its political and military rival ....

      And here is a comment by Sinologists well acquainted with the practice:
      Verily, verily they do not know what the "learned" carry.
      Any practitioner who has worked with the Chinese at least a little knows that the PRC has been accumulating entire "seas" of gray capital in different regions for decades! And this, not to mention the completely black cash.
      These capitals are informally, but nevertheless very tightly controlled by Beijing! And on command they can move in the direction that the party will indicate ......
      And real assets are growing all over the planet. When Day X arrives, it turns out that an alternative system is ready and ways to manage the assets of the Chinese people (including the diaspora) on a global scale have been worked out.
      And economists can look at the income and expense of what the dodgy, the Chinese (the essence of the cover operation) show them and see, as it should be - a bluff!

      Dear Vladislav Inozemtsev wrote:
      “However, in Beijing, apparently, they lost an adequate perception of the situation, forgetting that in addition to the economic partner of the Western world, China has become its political and military rival. And the West will have to come to terms with the “wave” that the collapse of the Chinese economy could trigger - simply because such a wave is better than a military-political conflict. "    
      Dear Vladislav Inozemtsev, I forgot that the “Aggregate West”, as a phenomenon that had developed at the time of the pirate Morgan, can be described. This is a military-political complex, including:
      - a set of speech models of public statements of media persons ("clichés");
      -constant strategic search for an easy victim to attack;
      - tactics of attacking a victim with a more or less organized flock.       

      As an option: Banks of the Federal Reserve System will calculate the necessary additional emission using a complex formula and will be able to print even more American banknotes to the whole world.
      Fees increased? Increased!
      So you need more dollars? More!
      Emission capacity created? Created!
      Well, get it.
      Is it profitable, is it beneficial to China? I don’t know how, but I’m sure that China is profitable. Already something the Chinese sages came up with, came up with over many years of negotiations "on tariffs."
      However, the main variant of the plan of the "trade war" of the USA / PRC is seen by non-politicians in a completely different way:
      It’s not about giving the Fed (Wall Street) a chance to continue to blow up credit bubbles (and thus “pull off its end”), but about creating methods for tariff soft regulation to absorb these bubbles (so that the bubble doesn’t suddenly burst with a bang the collapse of what was created and accumulated by the “hard work of the Chinese workers and peasants”). According to signs, the parties to the "trade war" are playing a stage play for smart analysts, and behind the scenes they have long agreed on the principles of how to build a new currency world. And only with sparks do they grind the details of the conspiracy.
      Any war ends in peace on a victorious basis.
      In the conditions of a systemic crisis of an industrial society of expanded reproduction of capital with the prospect of a collapse of the debt economy loan interest on “zeros” USD, the pledge of stability and leadership potential in the new currency world remains with the double-circuit monetary system (gold yuan and crypto-surrogate) of the Asian mode of production.
      In order to understand China, one must have a Chinese mind.
      https://devyatov.su/articles/251-nebopolitika/67916-o-spetsifike-jekonomiki-knr-novoy-jepokhi
      1. +1
        2 August 2019 21: 48
        For decades, the PRC has been accumulating entire "seas" of gray capital in different regions! And this, not to mention the completely black cash.
        These capitals are informally, but nevertheless very tightly controlled by Beijing! And on command they can move in the direction that the party will indicate ......


        Flowing water of the Kuban River where the Bolsheviks ordered!
        Hooray!
        Long live the secret Chinese Tao!
      2. +1
        4 August 2019 17: 36
        It looks like the truth
      3. 0
        5 August 2019 07: 41
        This is a very common case when a comment is more valuable than an article. Thank you so much. But you, like the author of the publication, are trying to analyze the situation from a pan-economist, monetarist standpoint. Meanwhile, what you are trying to explain in terms of double-entry bookkeeping or a two-circuit system has a completely different explanation: the point is not that the physical - iron or gold - yuan (tsan) is more "real" than a white crypto-surrogate (cao ); any banknote - from which it is not bungling - rests on the convention on its value and loses this value when the people using it begin to violate this convention. China will not betray its banknotes for the next hundred years, at least, because it is culturally and nationalistically monolithic and opposes itself to the rest of the world. And since there are a billion Chinese, and even more with satellites, the collapse of the yuan and the Chinese economy is not threatened, since a huge number of people united by a common idea, effective management system and military power respect the convention on its value. The problem, however, is - and this, albeit confusedly, by the author of the article - is that China has approached such a level of development when it becomes ineffective to oppose itself to the rest of the world: in your words, it has become too big a player to continue to cheat with double-entry bookkeeping, since he has already beaten everyone (somewhere he cheated, somewhere he won honestly by hard work). And now he must, firstly, unite both accounting departments and "whitewash" them, in order, secondly, to make this already new and pure accounting the basis, the backbone of a new international financial and economic reality. But as long as China divides the world into friends and foes, as long as it maintains a consumer attitude towards other cultures, nations and economies, no one will dare to join the new order. All have already learned from the bitter experience with the United States, which stupidly robbed new arrivals; and they still tried to "help" somehow, at least they declared such a desire! How can you trust the new hegemon, who does not even try to open his arms to the rest of the world, although at the ideological level internationalism (as part of the communist ideology) is embedded in the cultural and political foundations of modern Chinese civilization.
        Therefore, I would identify "double-entry bookkeeping" more in the field of ideology than economics: calling itself socialist, China in practice behaves - at least for now - like a nationalist state, and a rigid planned economy "for its own" is compensated by wild and unrestricted no moral norms of capitalism in relation to "strangers". But it is no longer possible to act this way: China simply has no one else to tilt. And its further possibility of development is linked - as always - with the ability for moral transformation, and at the mass level.
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          5 August 2019 10: 31
          That is a very frequent case when a comment is more valuable than an article. Thank you so much. But you, as the author of the publication, are trying to analyze the situation from a pan-economist, monetarist perspective.

          I will immediately answer you with the fact that I am not an author.
          The author of the Ninth.
          The person is quite specific.
          His views are not fully understood by me.
          But I cannot agree with all his conclusions.

          Meanwhile, what you are trying to explain in terms of double-entry bookkeeping or a two-circuit system has a completely different explanation: the point is not that the physical - iron or gold - yuan (tsan) is more "real" than a white crypto-surrogate (cao ); any banknote - from which it is not bungling - rests on the convention on its value and loses this value when the people using it begin to violate this convention.

          Here I also disagree with you.
          Cryptocurrencies.
          How is it with them?
          They absolutely do not adhere to any conventions or treaty.
          But they are a monetary symbol, a currency, albeit in non-cash execution in the form of a record in a computer?

          China will not betray its banknotes in the next hundred years at least, since it is culturally and nationalistically monolithic and contrasts itself with the rest of the world.

          Can betray only when he changes the name of his country - 中國, exercise. Zhongguo, "central state," "middle state."
          Until that moment, China has remained in the minds of its citizens as a “Center for Peace."
          And the title of "Center of the World" entails the obligation to be the founder and legislator in everything and always.

          And since there are a billion Chinese, and even more with satellites, the collapse of the yuan and the Chinese economy does not threaten, since a huge number of people united by a common idea, effective management system and military power comply with the convention on its value.

          From the point of view of venerable sociologists and economists, the Chinese are really a little over 500 millions.
          I have long read the sociological report of American economists.
          They, through the consumption of the main types of agricultural products, derived such data.
          Also, the policy of "one family, one child" made itself felt.
          I have heard stories that Chinese women were very closely monitoring the health status of their neighbors and girlfriends.
          And at the slightest hint of toxicosis, a special team of doctors was immediately called up.

          The result is a forced abortion and a fine to the head of the family. Serious fine.
          The control system is quite specific.
          The slave will not do anything until he is assigned a task.
          Two tasks are not posed.
          First one, then another.
          If there are three of them, then a collapse of consciousness sets in. The Chinese will think all day. Where to start.
          Military power is not my diocese.
          During his stay in China, he tried not to come close to any military facilities. And he didn’t start talking about weapons. Nevertheless, the translators ran to report on my steps "where necessary."

          However, the problem is - and this, although inconsistently, the author of the article pointed out - that China has reached such a level of development when it becomes ineffective to contrast itself with the rest of the world: in your words, it has become too big a player to continue to cheat with double-entry bookkeeping, since he had already beaten everyone (somewhere he cheated, somewhere honestly defeated hard work).


          China is a major player. No doubt about it.
          But the purpose of his game, or more specifically, the purpose of his participation in the game is not at all what Devyatov declares.
          China does not seek to "remake itself for everyone", unlike, say, the Americans.
          China benefits from being "on its own."
          The Chinese mentality, the Chinese lifestyle, the Chinese noisiness and "homonymy" are ABSOLUTELY not acceptable for us, for the Russians.
          The tone of the Chinese conversation, in our understanding, is the forerunner of a serious fight.
          But it turns out - it's just the way they communicate.
          Chinese intransigence in life and in everyday life is an extremely negative feature of their national character.
          This is especially evident in the organization of public traffic on the roads.
          But fraud is in the blood of ALL Chinese.
          If the Chinese cannot deceive you, then he considers himself very offended.
          Where to put such a property of character?
          So double and triple bookkeeping was, is and will be as long as there is China.
          At the expense of the industriousness of the Chinese, I will inform you a terrible secret!
          They, like everyone else, do not like to work.
          But they have the ability to work.
          And this is a big difference!

          And now he must, firstly, unite both accounting departments and "whitewash" them, in order, secondly, to make this already new and clean accounting the basis, the backbone of the new international financial and economic reality.

          China does not need to shoulder the burden of responsibility for the “rest of the world”.
          To receive benefits from him is, please.
          Lead the rest of the world on an equal footing - thank you.
          China will not want to lose preferences from the conditions in which it is now in order for its “people's money” to become a world currency.

          But as long as China divides the world into friends and foes, as long as it maintains a consumer attitude towards other cultures, nations and economies, no one will dare to join the new order. All have already learned from the bitter experience with the United States, which stupidly robbed new arrivals; and they still tried to "help" somehow, at least they declared such a desire! How can you trust the new hegemon, who does not even try to open his arms to the rest of the world, although at the ideological level internationalism (as part of the communist ideology) is embedded in the cultural and political foundations of modern Chinese civilization.

          Robbing Americans from the rest of the world will seem like a jaunt, compared to what the Chinese will do.
          For several generations on the earth, no faces should remain other than yellow, with black hair and narrow eyes.
          And this ethnic group should bear one name - HAN!
          And it can be controlled.
          The rest are pale-faced monkeys, barbarians, not worthy of just living next to the Chinese.
          So it may well be that the Chinese are not trying to “open our arms” to us.
          We will be more whole.

          Therefore, I would identify "double-entry bookkeeping" more in the field of ideology than economics: calling itself socialist, China in practice behaves - at least for now - like a nationalist state, and a rigid planned economy "for its own" is compensated by wild and unrestricted no moral norms of capitalism in relation to "strangers". But it is no longer possible to act this way: China simply has no one else to tilt. And its further possibility of development is linked - as always - with the ability for moral transformation, and at the mass level.

          Having drawn the line, I want to protect you from trying to remake the Chinese.
          We will not remake them.
          But we lose ourselves.
    2. +1
      3 August 2019 08: 29
      WayKheThuo !!!!! Great to write! good For now, I want to add about practicality. After all, it is not only about money. Actually about survival. With such a population, with the Chinese idealization of 9 sons in the family since ancient times, despite the fact that farming is not possible on the whole territory, the Chinese ate a variety of animals, from worms and beetles, to dogs, foxes, hedgehogs, monkeys ... . Chinese cuisine practically fellow non-waste, everything goes into business, including the intestines of fish and animals ...
    3. +1
      4 August 2019 16: 57
      He worked a lot with the Chinese. He was friendly with many.
      According to claim 1, this is state policy. In everyday life, they have similar concepts of good and evil to ours. If our state is so different laovey ...
      According to claim 2 - did not see - this does not mean that it does not exist. Exist. Just like everywhere else, the great Law of Normal Distribution applies. And then, you could see their work at every step. Were you not surprised, in particular, by bicycles loaded under 4 meters?
      According to claim 3, he met exceptions. True, rarely.
      According to claim 4 - in general, I agree
      According to paragraph 5 - I do not agree, they have such a concept. True, not at all. But I happened to meet ...
      For the rest, I agree.
  8. +3
    2 August 2019 17: 11
    Quote: Sergey 777
    China is still more monolithic.

    But how, when the north does not completely understand the southern dialect? In addition, there’s something, and there are enough peoples of all kinds in China .. Another thing is that the Han people themselves are still very much larger.
  9. 0
    2 August 2019 17: 16
    -All this is true, about the future of China ... -But it could have been (like with Yugoslavia, Japan, etc. ...), if not for Russia ... -And Russia would be broken into a cake, ruining its whole country and people but China will save ...
    -That's why Russia stands up for all these Chinese Silk Roads. ??? -It's just a silk stranglehold for Russia, a path to the disintegration of Russia ... -But, nevertheless, the entire Russian oligarchy, dozens of Russian governors of huge Russian territories-provinces have already been bought by China and are carrying out Chinese policy with might and main ... -So China may turn out differently ... at the expense of Russia ...
  10. +8
    2 August 2019 18: 05
    Absolutely true and very balanced article! The author a huge respect! He himself worked in China for almost six months. I was lucky to live in the rich province of Taizhou city. Communicated with educated Chinese, because the bulk of the population does not speak English! So in all the huge shopping centers, only local products! There are almost no foreign brands, if they are found then they are very expensive! Chinese engineers (by the way, all communists) love luxury, have expensive cars, they are very skeptical towards Russia, they do not respect, because they consider them to be a poor country, they only need resources and weapons. Very arrogant and contemptuous of other nations! Especially the Chinese despise Asians, consider themselves above all! But in relation to America, here is a completely different story! Though scolded, they are treated with great respect and reverence! And very afraid of a trade war! Almost everyone complained about Trump, because China, and this article is clearly disclosed, is very dependent on America and on Western corporations whose production is located in China! And yet, yes, in China there is a huge gap between the rich and poor provinces! Shanghai and coastal cities, this is not all of China! The central part and the east there is a completely different life! Therefore, do not admire China. It’s a very peculiar and arrogant nation, to be honest, after a business trip I began to relate to China in a completely different way, this is not an ally, this is a very dangerous and tough neighbor!
    1. +1
      2 August 2019 20: 11
      Quote: Hikaro
      Therefore, do not admire China. A very peculiar and arrogant nation, to be honest, after a business trip I began to relate to China in a completely different way, this is not an ally, this is a very dangerous and tough neighbor!

      I completely agree with you. He is not a friend (China) of Russia.
    2. +1
      4 August 2019 18: 02
      He worked and lived in China. Xinjiang, Int. Mongolia, Beijing, Hebei, Shandong, Guangdong. I have never met with contempt for Russia. Communicated with many people from different walks of life. It was necessary to communicate with party functionaries. On the contrary, the attitude towards Russia and Russians is quite positive. But the striped - specifically contemptuous attitude. At every opportunity, the amers were lowered below the plinth - I saw it myself and heard dialogues.
      1. 0
        4 August 2019 18: 26
        Quote: vm-bt
        He worked and lived in China. Xinjiang, Int. Mongolia, Beijing, Hebei, Shandong, Guangdong. I have never met with contempt for Russia. Communicated with many people from different walks of life. It was necessary to communicate with party functionaries. On the contrary, the attitude towards Russia and Russians is quite positive. But the striped - specifically contemptuous attitude. At every opportunity, the amers were lowered below the plinth - I saw it myself and heard dialogues.
        Yeah, this is very interesting .... There were always Chinese objects at home --- dishes, figurines, caskets, bedspreads, embroideries, books, both Chinese and about China. I have always loved Chinese halls in the Hermitage. When it was about creativity, I thought that at some moments creativity could turn into a craft. Which is not necessarily bad, in my opinion. Crafts can also be different.
        And also with pleasure I read R. Van Gulika. I like that he has fine Chinese details carefully written out.
  11. -3
    2 August 2019 18: 34
    Stupid article - China doesn’t be under credit pressure, on the contrary, it gives loans, there is a huge domestic market for selling products and so on. It will not be able to collapse from the west
    1. +4
      2 August 2019 18: 47
      on the contrary, he gives loans


      For example, Russia laughing
      1. +1
        2 August 2019 20: 36
        And in huge volumes, only very quiet. So what?
        1. +1
          2 August 2019 21: 50
          In gigantic, absolutely monstrous volumes ... and absolutely quiet ... belay
          So not a single Fed ovshyshka guess!
          Russian with Chinese - brothers forever!
  12. +6
    2 August 2019 19: 04
    The article was excellent, because the author threw aside a bunch of stereotypes imposed on everyone from time to time.
  13. +3
    2 August 2019 20: 07
    An interesting article, I read it with pleasure. Plus - definitely.
  14. +3
    2 August 2019 20: 35
    Well, finally, it's common speech! And then there is no longer any strength to read "economic analyzes", such nonsense is written there. Everything is exactly so - now China will be ruthlessly wet. Another question is that China is not as helpless as it seems to the author of the article ... but these are details. But the direction is absolutely correct - the game of globalization is over. And whoever did not hide is to blame ...
  15. +2
    2 August 2019 20: 57
    The Chinese economy (and many others too) is like a bicycle. In the sense, if it stops, it will fall. If for some, an increase of 0,3-0,5% is quite successful, then for China 3% is already bad. Need at least 5%. And at the expense of Yugoslavia, I remember how different radio voices sang in the years 78-80. Everyone discussed how her army would fight the aggression of the Soviet Army. To the bewilderment of why the USSR needed this, there was no answer. Just like now with the Baltic states. And about loans, that's right. Our people went there on tourist trips, they brought VCRs. There was a gobble capitalism.
  16. DPN
    +3
    2 August 2019 22: 00
    The article is very interesting, I read it with pleasure, it turns out that the Americans raised the PRC to the peak of the USSR, and when they managed to fill up the Union, China became not interesting to them yet.
  17. +2
    3 August 2019 04: 24
    I forgot in the example to bring the Soviet Union. it just happened somewhere between Yugoslavia and China. and by the way, Russia is now in a much worse position than China.
  18. 0
    3 August 2019 12: 28
    The author has a problem with logic. At first he declares that “we, too, some analysts repeated like parrots that by 2030 (35?) China will bypass the United States ... That's it, the movie is over ...”, and then immediately that “The American economy is already smaller Chinese, and she is seriously ill. " That is, we conclude that some analysts were mistaken only for 10-15 years, and China ALREADY! bypassed America. This conclusion, by the way, really makes the topic of the article interesting and relevant: China has become the official world economic leader and now the question is "Can China realize itself as a political, ideological and civilizational leader?" And yes, the preservation of China's leading position depends on its readiness to reconsider its attitude towards the rest of the world, overcome its selfishness and nationalism, stop treating the rest of the Earth and humanity as a resource (as has happened in the last 20 years in Siberia, the results of which we today we have in the form of these monstrous fires) and take over from the United States, which has not coped with this role, the baton of the global guardian, which, by the way, fully corresponds to the ideas of Lenin and Stalin, which are part of the official social and political catechism of the Celestial Empire. That is, in order to continue development, China must simply remain true to its ideals, practicing them, for which it has both economic and political resources. The question is whether there is enough political will. But there are no special reasons for doubt so far.
    Well, why this strange excursion into history was needed is not entirely clear. How can you compare Yugoslavia in the 80s and Nazi Germany in 1941? The statement that Hitler preferred Barbarossa to the Sea Lion for economic reasons - this could only be said by a person with brains on the economic side. In the 90s in Russia, many suffered from this form of worldview strabismus, but today such a position is a clear anachronism. And the fact that Japan, unlike Yugoslavia, did not collapse after the economic feeding ended, just reminds us once again that the moral and cultural principle prevails over the economic component. Where ideologically and morally loose state formation immediately "blows away" and falls apart, a healthy and strong nation slightly subsides, rebuilds and begins to develop again, reaching new economic and social heights as a result. Looking for examples? Spain vs. England in the 16th century, or Russia vs. China in the 90s.
    1. 0
      3 August 2019 17: 42
      The author has a problem with logic. At first he declares that “we, too, some analysts repeated like parrots that by 2030 (35?) China will bypass the United States ... That's it, the movie is over ...”, and then immediately that “The American economy is already smaller Chinese, and she is seriously ill. " That is, we conclude that some analysts were mistaken only for 10-15 years, and China ALREADY! bypassed America.


      Rather, the commentator has problems with the logic. She believes that money is the rule and money can buy everything.
      Just here is an example of China (and the 19-th century and 21-th) proves that money alone does not solve anything.
      In the 19 century, it was China that was the largest market in the world and the richest!
      China, not the British Empire at all!
      But he was divided into spheres of influence.
      Turned into a semi-colony.
      And its economic power did not play any role, in general.

      China has become the official world economic leader and now the question is "Will China be able to realize itself as a political, ideological and civilizational leader?"


      It is already clear that he does not even strive for this, he wants to sew Nike for the great and terrible America and rivet iPhones for her.
      Vot and all his "civilizational leadership"
      Leadership cannot be bought for money.

      And yes, maintaining China’s leading position depends on its willingness to reconsider its attitude to the rest of the world, to overcome its egoism and nationalism


      1 In politics, China is no leader
      2 Egoism, he does not even try to overcome.
      Something like that.

      and take over the baton of the global guardian from the United States, who did not cope with this role


      Baby, USA somehow coped with this role in general. Crooked of course, but managed (for the Western bloc). Because they allowed themselves to earn allies. Yes, disinterestedly, but they did.
      China does not want to give anything to anyone. This is not a leader and he will never be. Like Germany.

      by the way, fully consistent with the ideas of Lenin and Stalin, which are part of the official socio-political catechism of the Middle Kingdom


      belay request

      That is, to continue development, China must simply remain true to its ideals


      The ideals of Mao - Shih Huang ??? lol

      Well, why this strange excursion into history was needed is not entirely clear.


      Knowing the history you can understand a lot in modern times. Not the first year the Anglo-Saxons have been operating on the planet.

      How can you compare Yugoslavia 80's and Nazi Germany 1941?


      But how can anyone be compared with anyone?

      The statement that Hitler chose Barbarossa Sea Lion for economic reasons - this could only be said by a person with brains on an economic becker.



      I recommend to "google" on the topic of who financed the creation of the Third Reich. You will be greatly surprised.

      And the fact that Japan, unlike Yugoslavia, did not collapse after the economic dressing ended, just reminds us once again that the moral and cultural principle prevails over the economic component


      The moral and cultural Japan alone can only stagnate.
      And so soon 30 years !!!!

      vs. China in the 90 years.


      Which in 90 was poured with Western money.
      1. 0
        9 August 2019 08: 54
        The night of yesterday (or the day before yesterday) I turned on the TV ---- documentary footage ---- Chinese with quotes from Mao, unarmed, the crowd rushing to us, in the USSR, which means, through a cordon. !!!!!!
        I watched the program ---- a film, like, MIRROR, Tarkovsky? We must somehow see everything from the beginning.
        Stalin proposed through China to create an allied bloc in Asia (as it is written by Demin). Corn has reset everything.
    2. +1
      4 August 2019 19: 16
      Monstrous fires - this should not be blamed on China ... It is on the conscience of our .. effective managers in power. There is a sharp sensation that only Trump’s call to Putin has shifted everything from the back point. Immediately after - and Medvedev in Krasnoyarsk, and the Ministry of Emergencies, and military aviation, and criminal cases ... And the fact that the Chinese business, like any other, is glad to catch fish in troubled waters, is the business ...
      1. 0
        5 August 2019 06: 56
        The fact that we do not have power, but that ... which takes its place, will sell my native mother, not that Siberia is a well-known fact. The thing is that China, if it wants to become a new hegemon, should not reason like a cunning businessman, (they say that a neighbor has a mess, you need to use it and what you can do is to kidnap and spoil the rest), but look ahead for decades, understanding that Siberia with its forests is the property of all mankind, and it must be protected in spite of its own short-term selfish interests. The ability to see one hundred years ahead and think not only about how to fill your own pocket today, just distinguishes a big geopolitical player from a dodgy cheater from politics.
        1. 0
          9 August 2019 03: 58
          China does not think about its ecology, why would it think about whose other?
  19. 0
    3 August 2019 13: 09
    This is too reminiscent of the "conspiracy theory" loved by some. If the West has such opportunities as an EXACT calculation of the development of the economy for decades to come, then there is nothing to catch from anyone. The West is invincible.
    In reality, the same troubles of Yugoslavia are quite explainable even without pulling the ears of mythical plans to destroy its economy. Yugoslavia tried to compete in the market with developed European countries and deliberately lost. That's all. Therefore, no analogy with China can be traced.
    On the contrary, the West just suddenly went nuts over what kind of competitor had grown. And trying to crush him. But it's late already.
    However, historically, China has been an economic superpower for almost the entire history. And only a relatively small by historical standards gap in the 18 and 19 centuries lost to the West.
    1. +2
      3 August 2019 17: 26
      This is too reminiscent of the "conspiracy theory" loved by some. If the West has such opportunities as an EXACT calculation of the development of the economy for decades to come, then there is nothing to catch from anyone. The West is invincible.


      I apologize - where did you get this idea about accurate forecasts for 10 years and more ???
      What for? They didn’t install a nuclear landmine with a timer, having flown to Alpha Centauri.
      What are you talking about?


      In reality, the same troubles of Yugoslavia are quite explainable even without pulling the ears of mythical plans to destroy its economy. Yugoslavia tried to compete in the market with developed European countries and deliberately lost


      Have you heard about the support of nationalists from abroad?
      And about the NATO bombing?
      Or news for you?

      However, historically, China has been an economic superpower for almost the entire history.


      But not military-political. Alas.
  20. 0
    3 August 2019 19: 47
    Gorbachev's rule hit Yugoslavia hard. And the collapse of the USSR coincided with the collapse of Yugoslavia. China. If anyone remembers the "anti-Soviet map of China," this was the main motive for raising China's industry. At that time, US-owned radar stations were installed on the Chinese border. The United States viewed Japan's assistance as a prospect. Fertilize bad soil, do not fertilize, there will be no germination. The diligence of the Chinese and especially the Japanese did their job.
  21. 0
    3 August 2019 20: 12
    The fact that the Chinese economy is overheated and the bubble may burst is very likely. But why and in what way it will develop an explanation was not found. However, a comparison with Yugoslavia, Germany and Japan seemed successful. Well, modern Germany ... Due to what the economy of Germany sharply went up after WWII? And now ... Someone needs to choke Russia as well. And there are many reasons.
  22. 0
    3 August 2019 20: 37
    Strange article. Although I am in many respects critical of China's actions, they are not lacking in perspicacity. After all, not for nothing, even during the Obama administration, China adopted a new economic strategy. First, the infrastructure and integration program "New Silk Road". With the development of this project, the US market can be replaced by new sales markets. Or multiply your presence in these markets. Which compensates for the losses in the United States. Plus, in these countries participating in this project, a favorable environment for the business of the Middle Kingdom will be created.
    Secondly, China, along with other participants, created a new center for economic drive, namely the Bank for Infrastructure Investments, a small (so far) analogue of the World Bank. And this structure is already successfully investing projects. In addition, the currency of China is not comparable in level with that of the Yugoslav dinar.
    Thirdly. About currency. And investment. It should be borne in mind that having a huge surplus, China bought US government securities on the proceeds of the currency (USD). And today it is the largest holder of them. And this also will not allow the Yugoslav scenario to repeat itself.
    And the last one. We must take into account the history of China, its philosophy, its people and its traditions. Still, China is one of the oldest civilizations in the world. And he will remain the same to them. Great civilization.
  23. 0
    3 August 2019 21: 05
    China by chance, Japan by chance ... Such nonsense is described
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 23: 55
      Yeah, because they were simply "flooded with money", so anyone could ... But the fact that Russia is flooded with money from the sale of oil, gas and metals for decades and this money is tens of times more than all the US assistance to Japan is nothing. At the same time, Japan, not having any significant reserves of minerals, is 11 times smaller in population than China, it is shameful to say how many times smaller in size than Russia, and is steadily taking the 3rd place in the world in terms of GDP. This is also apparently not the merit of the Japanese themselves. The fact that they have been making the world's best cars for decades, the world's best electronics, video equipment and heavy industrial equipment does not count. Probably again, not themselves, but the Americans help them, whose cars are not needed anywhere except the USA itself ...
  24. 0
    4 August 2019 16: 06
    So, the United States has long been no longer a superpower


    .....
    1. +2
      4 August 2019 17: 57
      So, the United States has long been no longer a superpower


      % of global assets and trade in dollars
      % of investments in research and development
      % military budget
      % control over the Internet
      % Top 100 largest companies
      % orbital grouping


      this is what it is ...
  25. +1
    4 August 2019 21: 39
    Well, because China itself produces a lot, then its problems are sales markets and safe investments of its money. With the markets so far the norm is Europe, we, the USA, Africa, for any wallet. With attachments, lat America, Africa, we. Technology, yes, they still allow them, but they are actively learning to be independent of the whims of the West in technology. If they don’t bother us for a bit, then China in the current state will be afloat for a long time, the loss of the markets of Europe and the United States is not very critical, but taking their money from there is problematic on occasion. and land cover with an alliance with us. Then it will become sour to the west, subject to concerted actions in the Brix (well, something like ovd and sev 2.0 will work, only with a powerful fleet, then continental division of the countries will be discussed then my continent is my rule and don’t go to my potty))
  26. 0
    5 August 2019 14: 51
    I want to bring to your attention (once again) one document:



    There is such an interesting bank "Moskovski Narodni Bank" ... in London.
    Which, together with "Eirobank" Paris, were two foreign banks that were the lenders of Bulgaria until 1960. In the report of the chairman of the Bulgarian National Bank to the government, they are called "friendly banks". So who bought, sorry "credited" - a dark matter. And was there really a difference between "international financial speculators" and "dictatorship of the proletariat"? I repeat "Moskovsky Narodni Bank" ... in London !!!!
  27. +1
    6 August 2019 05: 19
    The similarity between China and Yugoslavia is not limited to the above analogies. Everything is much worse.

    China is ethnically far from one. Since we, for the most part, do not know the Chinese language, hieroglyphs and its subtleties, it is not surprising that we think of China as one whole. But this is not so. The south of China, places such as the metropolitan city of Shenzhen and Hong Kong, use the Chinese character, but the phonetically northerner and Kogkongets do not understand each other. Does this sound like something familiar to us (hint, Ukraine).

    Now in Hong Kong, in fact, the Kong Kong Maidan is being held, with the flags of China thrown into the water and under the actual slogans "Hong Kong is not China" and "we want to be a colony of the West again." Does that remind you of anything?

    Further, if "freedom-loving Hong Kong" separates from China, why not also Shenzhen? Why do they need the Chinese Communist Party? Yes nafig they do not need it, it only interferes with earning money, but that sanctions are not at hand, they will probably be removed in case of separation!

    Well, in the west of China is its Muslim region, which hates the Chinese as occupiers.

    They don’t have a common god, like Russians. There is, indeed, a love of work and money and talent. But how this will make the Chinese sacrifice their monetary interests for the sake of the unity of the motherland, it is not clear to me.
  28. +1
    6 August 2019 10: 50
    And yet a fellow author! Much controversial, but the level of controversy is good, high! Yes, the Masters of the West act as in ancient Rome - divide and rule! Only this is gleaned from Sun Tzu, from his "Art of War". And there are 35 more stratagems. They are all well known in China.
  29. +1
    8 August 2019 12: 49
    Quote: Sergey 777
    China's economy is Western factories and technology. Without the desire of corporations to save on labor, China would stagnate in the 60-70s.

    Not only. The initial take-off was associated with the capital of Huaqiao - ethnic Chinese overseas. They didn’t withdraw money for the hill ...
  30. 0
    9 August 2019 15: 46
    Yugoslavia looked very, very worthy. Largely thanks to Western loans and the access of its goods to Western markets. Tito did come to success.

    part of the welfare of Yugoslavia was on loans, but the author either does not know about the second part, or kept silent
    Tito, using the imbalances in trade relations between CMEA and the Western world, speculated on a gigantic scale, on price differences. re-supplying goods and products that he received inexpensively through cooperation. And it was a treacherous position.

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