Housing and communal services transferred to the presidential tariff?

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Early calculated, polled early


In the coming days, many of us will be very unpleasantly surprised to learn new payments for utilities services. They promised, as it is in Russia, and it is accepted that it will rise in price a little and not much, but in the end, most likely, everything will be different. Almost everything will go up in price, and almost everything will grow much.





But the most offensive is not even that. Too much will go up at all in a different way than was planned for July 1. Counting or, if you will, deception, will happen simply after the fact, when something can be changed only through a court. Of course, not all will be counted and deceived, but many, most likely, even very many. And then they could even return something to someone, but now they returned four and a half million for all in Zelenograd ... All residents of seven houses, where 460 took extra rubles for heating from every month.

However, even if someone gets returned and more, the unpleasant aftertaste will not go anywhere. And after the first of August, surely, reports of services that study public opinion will not be so benign. After all, literally on the eve of a real, rather than paper, increase in utility tariffs, the vast majority of Russians, or rather, 81% surveyed by the Romir holding, rated the utilities system in their area of ​​residence positively.

Citizens were asked not only about the general state of the public utilities system, but also about the existing problems. As a result, 76% of Russians simply considered a good service of housing and public utilities, and 5% of respondents considered very good only of all. Negatively estimated the housing and utilities system of all 15% of respondents, and only 4% of Russians critically rated it.

A positive result was obtained only because in Romir they asked about tariffs just when they had not yet grown. But in the course of the survey, the payments were such that there were no problems with payment, only for 8% of Russians. Nearly half of the respondents, 42%, already considered tariffs high, and almost a quarter (23%) - very heavy. Compared to the 2013 and 2016 surveys, the data are better, but what will they be after 1 August?

It is not by chance that literally the other day, either in order to avoid the coming mass protest, or already under the impression of opposition rallies, although in a completely different matter, the authorities decided to act in advance. President Vladimir Putin urgently called in for an interview the head of the Federal Antimonopoly Service, Igor Artemyev, to figure out why the increase in utility tariffs in many regions of Russia suddenly turned out to be "unreasonable."



Although what could be the advance, if the increased tariffs began to act here as early as a month ago? And the head of state did not invent the term about the “unreasonable” growth of tariffs, but borrowed it from outraged citizens. From among those who succeeded or were allowed to reach the GDP itself via a “straight line”.

Tariff does not have a retroactive effect?


The trial, according to media reports and comments, the interview with Igor Artemyev at the head of state turned out to be quite constructive. Our goals are clear, the goals are set. But for whom there will be a victory, it is not entirely clear. Apparently, not for citizens, but for public utilities. Some of them will be scolded, someone will even be planted for the purpose. And that only for the fact that "they are not according to the rank."

“I would very much like words and pieces of paper that are produced in large quantities at different levels, not to disagree with the essence of the decisions that are made; that people see that these decisions work in real life,” said the head of state.

Putin not only reminded Artemyev of citizens' complaints during the presidential direct line on the unreasonable, in their opinion, increase in tariffs. He at the same time remembered about 12 holes in the legislation used by public utilities in the field.

In response, the head of the FAS reported that he counted hundreds of cases of using those very 12 holes. And he reminded the president that for many years now the government has not set tariffs in Russia on the "inflation-minus" principle. Not quite clear, but it seems people have to pay less and less. However, for some reason it turns out more and more.

Housing and communal services transferred to the presidential tariff?


We will not argue that from the interview of the president with the head of the Federal Antimonopoly Service the conclusion suggests itself: in August, housing and utilities tariffs simply will not be allowed to jump. Especially since those “12 holes” are already closed. It also issued a cabinet decree that prohibits tariffs from being made higher than what is set by the government. However, citizens still continue to overpay for housing and communal services at times of very dubious quality.

And further, it seems, everything will go as before. Tariffs will rise again: due to inflation, due to the increase in VAT, due to sanctions, but primarily due to the fact that someone somewhere out of money again. Here are just going to infinity on the ridge of a simple public will not succeed. It is possible once again, another, maybe even the third, to pretend that the situation is under control, and the utility industry is about to become a sort of locomotive of the economy. But somehow it is bad to believe in this.

And the very fact that Putin and Artemyev decided to check the clock just now, makes a heavy, I would say, depressing impression. Really, in the month that passed after the official and widespread increase in tariffs, no one was able to monitor, and then to provide the head of the FAS and the president of the country with comprehensive information about who and where he messed up with the indexation of prices? But at the same time submit at least an approximate data on where people are generally taken not according to tariffs, but as local public utilities want?

Reform as a business project


The fact that the prices of utilities should be raised and they will be raised, we were told for a long time, but did not say when they froze at least for a while. You can still understand when the finances and the ruble exchange rate are not all right, but now this is the case, as they say, there is no place better. The Central Bank began to cut rates, mortgages are getting cheaper, bankers are panicking that they will soon have to lend to the public at a loss.

Now Igor Artemyev had the courage to say that story 20-year-old with a permanent increase in utility tariffs is finally completed. Most likely, he seriously hoped that the president would give the go-ahead to the long-awaited termination of the creeping growth of utility tariffs. However, the head of state did not give such a go-ahead and even objected: "Not really, if it had been completed, people would not have complained about this on a straight line."

But all the imaginable and unimaginable price milestones, which were once called necessary in order to ensure the self-sufficiency of the industry, have been achieved. And achieved more than once. And let the official Moscow press not try to convince us that Moscow still has almost the lowest prices for housing and utilities services among world capitals. And even if it leads to the substantiation of its conclusions, it seems to be quite convincing graphics.



An inquisitive reader will immediately understand that the recalculation here goes on square meters, and not on rubles or euros in the wages of an ordinary Muscovite or Berliner. That's just the average salary of an average Berliner at least three or four times higher than that of an average Muscovite. We will not argue that at the same time it has for some reason more square meters of housing. But besides, the level of services rendered by the Berlin or London utilities is, to put it mildly, slightly better than in the capital, which is prosperous by Russian standards.

In an attempt to somehow justify the utter growth of tariffs, Russians like to be reminded that they owe 4,4 trillion rubles for housing and communal services. And these are only those debts for which they managed to make a court decision on recovery. It is easy to read that each of us, it turns out, did not seem to have paid public utilities almost 100 thousand. It’s good that rubles, not dollars.

Why no one thinks how much we, the Russians, are indebted to our public utilities? For leaks and rolling blackouts, for delays in the supply of water after switching off, and always uncleaned garbage. Why, in general, no one wants to consider where billions and trillions have gone, directed over many years to reform the industry? Again, not enough, or again someone stole something?

There is clearly time to do the analysis of debris, and the Chamber of Accounts, and the Prosecutor General's Office with the Investigative Committee. Simple control by antimonopolschikov is not enough. The readers, I hope, have not forgotten that, not too long ago, about pensions, they were also told something painfully similar to what now justifies the growth of utility tariffs. However, the Russians have swallowed years of free living without a pension earned, so why not do something similar in the housing and utilities sector?
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  1. +21
    1 August 2019 05: 49
    They will play out with their promotions, so that every sewer outlet will be clogged with "promoters" and owners of the "national property".
    1. +2
      1 August 2019 06: 23
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      They will play out with their promotions, so that every sewer outlet will be clogged with "promoters" and owners of the "national property".

      Or it will be, as in "Old Nags":

      In their attempts to somehow justify the outrageous increase in tariffs, Russians like to remind them that they owe as much as 4,4 trillion rubles for housing and communal services.

      In attempts to justify arrears of interest and bank interest, Russians like to remind authorities that there are more than 2 million more beggars in the country, and the minimum wage remains 11 ...
      But the average salary in the country is growing and reached 43 rubles ... fellow But there is still income on deposits and stocks ... fellow fellow
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 06: 31
        hi You are probably the only one on this site who has deposits and promotions. lol
        1. +13
          1 August 2019 06: 35
          Quote: wellaut
          hi You are probably the only one on this site who has deposits and promotions. lol

          You are probably the only one on this site who does not distinguish between simple narration and sarcasm.
          Sarkism is a form of satirical exposure sarcastic mockery, the highest degree of irony, based not only on the increased contrast of the implied and expressed, but also on immediate intentional exposure implied.

          hi
          1. +23
            1 August 2019 09: 18
            Oh, and your wicked "darkest". He "took care", yeah. Really everyone has forgotten the story that happened several years ago (when the dollar was still 30 rubles, that is, even before the sanctions), when "a person like a" subject " wink I came to the "outback" (I don't remember the reason any more, maybe it's just "PR going to the people") and there, in one city, he had a small press conference at which someone complained about the "expensive rent" and its growth. So then, the "subject" quite sharply replied that in the whole world the rent is not less than 400-800 dollars, and he does not understand why in Russia it should be less, they say, housing and communal services companies bear costs and must compensate them and also get profit. The equipment and materials that these companies use are mainly imported, and therefore the prices should also be "imported". Thus, prices for housing and communal services will catch up with the "European" ones. Well, he said and said, however, local officials took these words as a signal for action and quickly zapped prices - utility tariffs to the top - pulling them up to "all-European". The people went nuts and yelled, "guard! They are robbing!" and besides, the majority simply could not find money to pay such "tariffs" and the authorities had to "win back" then, back. For a while. Do you think something has changed in the heads of these characters? I doubt it.
            1. +1
              4 August 2019 21: 02
              The poor people's wallet has long become like a tube that they stepped on.
        2. -35
          1 August 2019 09: 15
          oh, well, just don’t draw a church mouse from yourself. Something cars do not get smaller ... by love of poverty, they save on public transport laughing
          1. +17
            1 August 2019 09: 50
            Quote: besik
            Something cars do not get smaller ...

            do not give the figures of loans taken and defaults on them? But zadolbali with their cars.
            1. 0
              2 August 2019 02: 31
              take a car on credit, the last nonsense. What you can take on credit is real estate only. Agree to lose a car is much more likely than real estate.
          2. +18
            1 August 2019 09: 54
            oh, well, just don’t draw a church mouse from yourself. Something cars do not get smaller ... by love of poverty, they save on public transport

            And the old familiar "song" is about the fact that the prosperity of Russians is characterized by the number of cars in personal use, they say, the population is "fattening", in fact, driving a private car. I will answer this with the remark that having a personal car in Russia is now a NECESSITY, without which it is often simply impossible to survive. I explain point by point: 1-work is now for most people far from their place of residence and public transport will have to travel there and back several times longer than on a private car, and the waste of time on the road is a critical indicator, since in addition to working at the workplace, it is necessary to do other things - "family" (to take the children out of the kindergarten, which, again, is now in the middle of nowhere, and so on), the bureaucratic-Russian state constantly throws new laws to citizens according to which it is constantly "obliged" and necessary personally visit bureaucratic offices and organizations - without personal transport it is often simply impossible, especially when you need to meet a certain deadline. 2 - in modern sleeping areas, where most of the population of large cities live, there is simply not enough public transport, or he does not go there regularly and besides, it is not possible to get into it because it is packed with people who want to chew at the final stops. 3-choking on public transport for a couple of hours already in advance you get stress, which affects the workplace, 4-in a crowded public transport, coughing, sneezing and a 100% guarantee that you will catch the flu and acute respiratory infections during their epidemic season, and " sick leave "in private companies now do not give at all, everywhere a minimum of staff, and no one will work for you, you may find yourself out of work. 5-shopping centers, where prices are lower than in small retail, are located "outside the city" and families where adults work for 10-12 hours (which is now a widespread phenomenon in private companies) do not have the opportunity to "go" to shops, therefore they go to shopping malls buy basic products for a week, and here you can't do without your own car, 6-if you lose your job, "tax" is the only way not to die of hunger until you find a new job. So, a car for a person of working age in Russia is now a conscious NECESSITY.
            1. +4
              1 August 2019 10: 12
              Quote: Monster_Fat
              work is now located at most far from the place of residence and public transport there and back will have to go several times longer than in a personal car

              Moreover, public transport, for example in Moscow, often comes out more expensive if there are several transfers.
              1. +8
                1 August 2019 10: 29
                All my acquaintances from Moscow and St. Petersburg, first of all, got a car even, to the detriment of their prosperity, living in rented apartments and sitting on a "doshirak", because it was simply a necessary condition for work - to go to clients for various types of approvals or negotiate supplies, check products, etc.
                1. +6
                  1 August 2019 10: 33
                  Quote: Monster_Fat
                  All my friends from Moscow and St. Petersburg, first of all, got a car

                  There are two significant downsides to owning a car in Moscow. 1. Traffic jams. If you need somewhere by 9 in the morning, then you need to leave the outskirts much earlier, if for example at 7-00, you may not have time, so you have to leave at 6-00, and then stupidly sit and wait for an hour and a half. 2. Problems with parking. After 19 hours, it is simply not possible to park near the house. But without a car, you can completely forget about a few things a day.
                  1. +7
                    1 August 2019 10: 38
                    These are the problems of all major cities. However, the problem of "traffic jams" in "Europe" is being solved quite successfully - by rejecting "regulated intersections" and instead by building "junctions". Moreover, the "old" roads in cities are being altered according to this principle - one road leads down, under the other. In Russia, I did not notice such alterations, in the "old fashion" (for "cheaper") they mold "regulated intersections", even on new roads.
                    1. +3
                      1 August 2019 11: 15
                      Quote: Monster_Fat
                      "controlled intersections" and

                      From experience, I noticed that at some intersections, when the traffic light does not work, the throughput increases, traffic jams disappear.
              2. +1
                1 August 2019 12: 51
                But this garbage is complete. If you count the fare on a Muscovite card. I’ve got stuck in traffic jams and parked at the place of work. I’m constantly traveling home through shift from Moscow and know how much it costs to travel in transport and imagine the cost of a car - not just gasoline. Here economics here does not exactly steer.
              3. +2
                1 August 2019 17: 46
                Take three for a month - and there will be no problems.
            2. 0
              1 August 2019 12: 48
              I will answer this morning in Yakutsk
            3. +1
              1 August 2019 18: 51
              And one more detail: A car is not a luxury, but a means of transportation. Even a domestic "bucket with bolts" 800 rubles. This is so by the way. You are a plus. hi
              1. +1
                2 August 2019 17: 32
                Quote: serzh sibiryak
                Even the native "bucket of bolts"800.
                - belay belay belay belay Well, if for you - the homeland of Germany / France / Japan - then yes ...
                And our "domestic bucket with nuts" is quite cheaper - from 382 to 520 thousands
                https://lada-market.lada.ru/ds/cars/granta/sedan/prices.html
                this is if the car NOT
                Quote: serzh sibiryak
                luxury and vehicle.
            4. +2
              2 August 2019 02: 57
              This FSE is relevant with the traveling nature of the work, who would argue. But that’s not all work that way. For example, take the railway (!) Station Los and Biryulevo Pass in Moscow. Why precisely them: oppositely located at different ends and removed from the subway (!). By Yandex card transport 1 h. 22 minutes. 41 minutes by car. BUT! If the transport will be EXACTLY 1,22. then by car at rush hour (especially in the morning) I doubt very much even 1,22 (although transport routes have improved significantly in Moscow). For money, again, 53 * 0,08 (compare the consumption of a modern car in the city) * 2 (round-trip) * 55 p./l = 466 / day. In a month, 466 * 22 (minimum) = 10261 rubles (!) And you rub me in on the fact that l. transport need and cheaper? Do not make me laugh. If you and your friends (I suspect from the same circle of people) it is profitable to go to health. Let them continue to sit on the doshika for changing cars.
              1. 0
                2 August 2019 15: 56
                Quote: besik
                . If you and your friends (I suspect from the same circle of people) it is profitable to go to health. Let them continue to sit on the doshika for changing cars

                It’s just my traveling nature of work about a doshik that’s ridiculous, I have an apartment, a couple of shops, a big country house (though it’s still not completely finished) what kind of savings are we talking about for the car? If not for building a house, I would change them every year.
                1. 0
                  3 August 2019 09: 31
                  We would all neigh with you, but not everyone has a couple of shops and country houses. I have given arguments from the point of view of a rather average layman. You then understand the drum how much to pay for the fare. Therefore, stoke for personal transport as opposed to public. But most, I’m sure, do not like the drum. hi
          3. +4
            1 August 2019 10: 46
            I know a few people, they live at home in construction sites, they don’t have their own housing and do not plan, but they change the car in increasing
          4. +13
            1 August 2019 13: 24
            Quote: besik
            oh well only not nuno to draw a church mouse. Something cars do not get smaller... by love from poverty - save on public transport

            Nuno, Yura, nuno! The Zaputinists cannot think of anything else, how forever people can poke with a quantity of cars, hinting that the people are not in poverty at all, but are furious with fat.
            But where are these cars now? Take the poorest countries in Africa, Asia or Europe (Ukraine) - there is nowhere to put cars everywhere, but this does not mean the wealth of these countries.
            This is Nigeria:

            Slums in India:


            But all the arguments are not for the future for this contingent. Next week, the street organ will be launched again about cars!
            1. +4
              1 August 2019 17: 48
              Only now, most of these machines are still 90s of release in Bangladesh, in Africa.
            2. -2
              2 August 2019 02: 37
              not nuno Stasik, not nuno. Patamusha liberoids should pick on WHAT cars go to the Russian Federation, unlike India. By the way, on the photos, assess the proportion of people and cars and the FSE will fall into place. And for example, DV- so it’s almost impossible to see a non-Japanese car. And they are not the most deshmans.
      2. +6
        1 August 2019 16: 46
        Quote: ROSS 42
        But the average salary in the country is growing and reached 43 rubles ..

        Well, it grows among oligarchs, oil workers and officials
    2. -15
      1 August 2019 09: 06
      I did not understand what was wrong, since 1991 they have been increasing, and now they are suddenly worried. Go to work, you might think you understand the economy. Most of the site is, those who have not defended the USSR, go buy your jeans and chewing gum, since you haven’t hit one finger to protect the Socialist Conquests, neither in 1991, nor in 1993, nor in 1998 ... etc. You list of what you profucia remind?
      1. +9
        1 August 2019 10: 26
        Uncle (civilian), did you probably protect the Russian Embassy from the Germans in 1991, or did you shoot from tanks from the parabellum window in the White House in 1993? or maybe in Chechnya he directly imposed constitutional order on December 31, 1995. Ahhhh, probably in 1998 they took you out of the loop when repainted from communists to liberals defaulted in the country.
        1. -7
          1 August 2019 15: 02
          Aunt Nonna, wipe the ignition of the stern) you, too, I look, are still alive) and conscience does not bother)))
        2. +2
          1 August 2019 18: 53
          And, I beg your pardon, where were you then? It was me "I asked the Civilian.
    3. +1
      3 August 2019 05: 13
      We will wait until 2024. Maybe then something will change? And this system has already been built to push for excess people. It remains to steal the social program.winked
      1. -1
        7 August 2019 13: 36
        nothing will change ... now the capital of the oligarchs is greater than the reserves of the Russian Federation. By 2024 there will already be 1 trillion ... And they do not need to change anything. When Putin says stability, it’s stability for oligarchs. Revenues rise despite crises and sanctions
  2. +9
    1 August 2019 05: 57
    We were told for a long time that utility bills should be raised and they will be raised, but they didn’t say when they would freeze at least for a while.
    And they said! I remember exactly))) They said that when they catch up to 100 percent of the cost of the delivered services, then they will stop the growth of tariffs. Then, however, they began to say that they would catch up to 120 percent, because the wear and tear of communal networks was colossal, they needed to be changed, and this required money, too, and now, but as soon as we changed everything, we would return it to a XNUMX% indicator and everyone would be happy , and utilities will be of the highest quality, because patamushto ... True, then they stopped talking about anything at all, but they did not stop raising prices. They just did it in silence.
    However, the Russians swallowed years of free living without a earned pension, so why not crank something similar through the housing and communal services?

    So after all, long before the retirement began, cranked a couple of decades ago.
    1. +13
      1 August 2019 08: 52
      Of course, I could tell how a crane was installed in the kitchen several years ago, and for some reason it staggered, and now under it is not a bin, but a bucket collecting dripping water. Or how I have been reinstalling a new toilet bowl for three consecutive months and can’t reinstall everything so that it doesn’t leak and stagger, and the bill for a communal apartment has increased by a thousand.
      But I’ll talk about something else - why Putin and Artemyev decided to check the clock just now.
      On July 24 of this year, that is, exactly a week ago, I had a meeting - no, not official - accidental, with an old acquaintance who is a member of our village council. We sat down on a bench in the shade and lit a cigarette. She, by the way, is a member of the EP, for which she always received stinging ridicule from me with the fleeting "How are you?" We lit a cigarette, and I asked how it was, they say, things are now in the party. She waved her hand and spoke badly about our mayor, also a member of the EP. Well, of course, I objected, the asphalt is being laid, but good, but wherever possible, and how neatly. And you do not understand why now? And in the area they also put it now and everywhere? I, of course, immediately guessed - really before ... the elections? Aha, there was a gloating answer to me. If they put the asphalt immediately after the last elections, then it could already crack and turn into pits, and what is the selective effect? And the mayor pushed himself well, oh ... Traded municipal land through tenders with kickbacks, our council barely defended a piece for the kindergarten - the mayor wanted to sell it for an entertainment center, read a casino. We barely defended the children's stadium. Oh, it works, so EP, I was delighted, does not sleep, then! I'm leaving, said the deputy, I can't take it anymore, I'm tired. And then she perked up: we were still working! But you can't imagine what scumbags will come instead of us after the elections. From the EP? Yeah ... And you know them? Sure! Will the asphalt be removed? She looked at me skeptically and said: I won't be surprised.
      So Putin and Artemyev meet before the elections to different Duma. They put their "asphalt" political. By next spring, or even earlier, it will go holes. Or even after the elections, they will be removed.
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          +7
          1 August 2019 09: 37
          Quote: besik
          Or your husband’s hands aren’t from there?

          That is, her husband’s hands, and we pay utility bills? It is logical! laughing
          1. +3
            1 August 2019 12: 56
            do you need to repair a house crane? Stunned! Free of charge, and utilities before entering the apartment.
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        3. +6
          1 August 2019 09: 55
          Quote: besik
          Or your husband’s hands aren’t from there?

          well, not everyone can do this. I think that Volodin and Gref also do not know about the crane-axle box and what an "American" is. And already about the GDP and its plumbing knowledge I will generally keep silent
          1. -1
            1 August 2019 12: 57
            keep silent
      2. +3
        1 August 2019 09: 36
        Quote: depressant
        Of course, I could tell how a crane was installed in the kitchen several years ago, and for some reason it staggered, and now under it is not a bin, but a bucket collecting dripping water. Or how I have been reinstalling a new toilet bowl for three consecutive months and can’t reinstall everything so that it doesn’t leak and stagger

        all of the above does not apply to the area of ​​responsibility of the management company, this is YOUR property and YOU must keep it in good condition, you can do it yourself, you can call a plumber from the Criminal Code or "husband for an hour" .... this is your business !!
      3. +3
        1 August 2019 09: 46
        I would like to look at the management company or HOA, which installs taps for people and toilet bowls in the ACCOUNT FEE FOR ACCOMMODATION)))))
        You would even study the theory before writing fairy tales)))
        1. +4
          1 August 2019 13: 21
          If the apartment is not privatized, then they install, change and everything that needs to be done .... but, for this you need a lot of nerve cells and time to spend, which is sometimes easier to do for a fee.
      4. +3
        1 August 2019 09: 52
        Quote: depressant
        By the next spring, or even earlier it will go holes.

        already in the holes. Sobyanin puts a marble border - did not help
      5. +4
        1 August 2019 17: 53
        Thank you - very funny, especially about the tap and toilet.
      6. 0
        1 August 2019 22: 02
        under the entertainment center, read the casino


        You should at least change manuals from 2009! laughing Casino! Yeah!

        A crane for several years, of course, is not fate to change. You don’t have to pay 200 rubles to Vasya! The same trouble with the toilet! What a bad Putin, eh !!! laughing
    2. +1
      1 August 2019 11: 09
      Quote: Dalny V
      So after all, long before the retirement began, cranked a couple of decades ago.

      housing and communal services tariffs as well as fires in Siberia are covered at the highest level
  3. +11
    1 August 2019 06: 13
    And code pensions will be increased by 7%, not by 0,8%
    1. +5
      1 August 2019 06: 52
      Drink with water ..
    2. +3
      1 August 2019 11: 10
      Quote: nikolaj1703
      And code pensions will be increased by 7%, not by 0,8%

      inflation will be 20%
    3. +1
      1 August 2019 12: 19
      Quote: nikolaj1703
      And code pensions will increase by 7%

      You dreamed it more carefully. Recently, you just raised it by 8% from 60 to 65.
      And then they will begin to increase every year.
  4. +10
    1 August 2019 06: 15
    "Why does no one name the fish? Because she is silent all the time. She is caught - she is silent, she is fried - she is silent, they arranged a fish day for her - she is silent."
    1. +6
      1 August 2019 07: 07
      The people are not the same as you called. But in order for him to vote, several cataclysms should merge together. Bad war, food problems, inflation. And, the presence of weapons in the hands of the population. And the cunning leaders. All this was in 1917; now this is not. Few people go to the call to go overthrow the thieves elite; everyone is busy with the question of how to earn a living for the family. hi
      1. +7
        1 August 2019 08: 53
        hi In my comment about the people, not a word about fish and I’m not calling her stupid smile ... But ... at one time they believed that someone would fall on the rails, and prices would not rise, or a statement not long ago, until I believed the president of the pension reform? They believed ... They tell us there is no money, but you hold on, the salary doesn’t suit you, go to business ... But you don’t need to write about 1917, cunning leaders, etc. .. but the last phrase is true, so that you don’t think too much , let them think only of a piece of life .. and are in this state .. hi
        1. -1
          1 August 2019 15: 21
          Quote: parusnik
          or not a long-standing statement while I am the president of pension reform will not be believed?

          So he did not say it, this TEE voiced.
          What should he answer for ALL, should he?
        2. +1
          1 August 2019 16: 31
          I agree with you, about the people and the fish are my associations. About the cunning leaders ... I mean not only Vladimir Ilyich. There were many of them, take at least Kerensky’s lawyer, because he also had a hand in what happened later. And the tricks were enough to jump aside and die in old age, and not like some 54 from a blow, and others a little later from a bullet and an ice ax. Geniuses come up with a revolution, fanatics commit, and adventurers take advantage. This Frenchman seems to have said. I mean that Joseph Vissarionovich correctly got rid of fanatics and adventurists. It’s a pity not from everyone. hi
    2. 0
      1 August 2019 11: 11
      Quote: parusnik
      they arranged a fish day for her - she is silent

      and they beat her head on ice - she is silent, although her mouth opens laughing
  5. -9
    1 August 2019 06: 40
    Centralized heating is nowhere else in the world, except in the ex-USSR.
    Everyone has a boiler in their houses.
    It's time for us to move on to this.
    1. +16
      1 August 2019 06: 55
      On the boiler in HOUSES? Or in apartments? So our homes are few where they are powered by centralized heating. And where the gas is supplied, why not install a boiler? Just how many gasified rural settlements do we have? And what about gasification "all over the world"? (By this I suppose you mean the collective West, not the countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America).
      And as for the apartments, then "all over the world" apartment buildings, I think, are not heated by boilers.
      1. -7
        1 August 2019 07: 03
        And as for the apartments, then "all over the world" apartment buildings, I think, are not heated by boilers.

        That's right - in the basement of each apartment building is a boiler. In all countries of northern Europe.
        1. +8
          1 August 2019 07: 42
          Quote: lucul
          In all countries of northern Europe.

          Do not tell me the average annual temperature in these countries? ... and here?
          1. -2
            1 August 2019 09: 47
            Do not tell me the average annual temperature in these countries? ... and here?

            And here is the temperature ???? ))))
            The bottom line is that in northern Europe, each apartment building has its own boiler, the costs and maintenance of which lies entirely with the residents.
            In addition, from the residential apartment building, 500 m in both directions, the entire infrastructure is completely, i.e. the cost and maintenance also lies entirely with the residents.
            Let me give you a simple example - acquaintances traveled to Bulgaria. And in the beginning, they fired up to buy a house there. Still - a two-story domyara, but almost on the seashore and costs a ridiculous $ 30 just a dream. But then, the locals enlightened them. Utility costs for this house are "modest" $ 000 per month. That is, the house will cost $ 1000 per year. And the cost of the house itself, I repeat, is small, but the communal apartment kills all the advantages.
            You understand - the state in Russia can easily raise people 's salaries up to $ 2 - $ 000 per month, but it’s all expenses, the state will shift it from itself to the shoulders of people.
            This should have been done back in 1991, but at the same time, the poorest people will suffer ....
        2. +3
          1 August 2019 08: 06
          If you look at our houses built 30-50 years, then make sure that in every house there was a boiler room and a coal storage with it. Only in 60 began to switch to heating from the heating plant.
      2. 0
        1 August 2019 08: 32
        According to Peter, almost all houses have central heating and hot water. 8 powerful thermal power plants. There are smaller boiler houses, but they are also not individual for each house.
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          1. -1
            1 August 2019 10: 01
            The most interesting thing is that heat tariffs in houses with an individual boiler house are higher than in houses with a centralized one.
            1. -1
              1 August 2019 10: 03
              The most interesting thing is that heat tariffs in houses with an individual boiler house are higher than in houses with a centralized one.

              Depreciation of the boiler ....
      3. +2
        1 August 2019 10: 10
        "And what about gasification" all over the world "- a friend lived in Japan there is centralized heating, at least in low-rise buildings there is no stove like a stove from which you can even charge a smartphone by the way, our Novosibirsk company got the hang of making them in Japan, they disperse with a bang
    2. +2
      1 August 2019 08: 05
      This is done. Multi-apartment buildings are being built with a boiler room, where it is inexpedient to build quarterly boiler houses.
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 10: 01
        Constructed apartment buildings with a boiler room,

        Right. But look at the life of the house, and now look at the life of the boiler. When it comes time to change it, it will have to be changed at the expense of the residents. And the boiler is not worth a penny, but people don’t even think about it .....
    3. -1
      1 August 2019 09: 22
      just a lot where it really is not hi
    4. +4
      1 August 2019 09: 50
      And you read books, study the materiel - how the infrastructure was built in the USSR, by whom it was built, by whom it was maintained, and maybe then you will understand why it was done that way and not otherwise.
      And now, most new buildings come with individual boiler rooms.
    5. +2
      1 August 2019 10: 03
      Quote: lucul
      It's time for us to move on to this.

      In Ukraine, in Crimea, very many in high-rise buildings did just that. Everything was fine with everything. After the 14th, it was banned and they tried to return everyone to a centralized network. And why? Krymgaz lost a lot of customers and work, the monopolist wanted money. What did he do then? -I declared. that gas meters installed in Ukraine, even with unexpired verification datesare subject to replacement, as they are not produced in Russia. And they took very decent money for it. Also made a water utility.
      Thieves and crooks these gentlemen!
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 10: 06
        In Ukraine, in Crimea, very many in high-rise buildings did just that. Everything was fine with everything.

        I repeat - the boiler works for a certain number of years, after which it must be replaced - and all this at the expense of the residents.
        1. +1
          1 August 2019 10: 08
          Quote: lucul
          I repeat - the boiler works for a certain number of years, after which it must be replaced - and all this at the expense of the residents.

          you did not read carefully about the monopolist
          1. +1
            1 August 2019 10: 11
            you did not read carefully about the monopolist

            I heard that in Crimea the entire infrastructure of centralized heating is being changed, due to its 90% depreciation, nothing has changed there when Crimea was in / in Ukraine.
            Therefore, I will not be surprised.
            1. +1
              1 August 2019 10: 25
              Quote: lucul
              that in Crimea they are changing the entire infrastructure of district heating

              no, I changed the risers for my money. When he came to the Housing Office about their replacement, they answered me that the money is enough only for emergency situations. Same thing with the power grid. The wiring in the entrance burned twice. I found out the prospects in the plan for 25 years. And before the 25th? At my own expense, even tomorrow. And I believe ZhEKu in this.
              While grandmas are sawing in Crimea, what federal funding and companies from the mainland do is do it. Everything that local authorities should do is poher. Billions of rubles disappear.
              The last sentence of the Goblin: to roll in the tile / asphalt the coast of the sea between Saki and Yevpatoria. The length is 17-19 km. So people walk! And the fact that there are no sanatoriums on the isthmus, as well as holiday-makers in the Eastern Crimea, and dogs will walk, no matter. The main thing to have time to master.
              to understand the process - read.
              https://echo.msk.ru/blog/amountain/2473769-echo/
              The case writes comrade, everything corresponds to reality, except for the conclusion
              1. +1
                1 August 2019 10: 58
                no, I changed the risers for my money. When he came to the Housing Office about their replacement, they answered me that the money is enough only for emergency situations. Same thing with the power grid. The wiring in the entrance burned twice.

                Do you live in Crimea?
                1. +1
                  1 August 2019 11: 13
                  Quote: lucul
                  Do you live in Crimea?

                  into two houses. There is an apartment, mom, brother, friends.
                  Here- work, home, family and children
      2. +2
        1 August 2019 16: 39
        Silver, dear. I am just a Kipyan by my occupation. So, yes crooks and thieves do not argue. About the counters. There is a state register of measuring instruments, and if the commercial meter is not included there, sorry, it is illegal.
        1. 0
          1 August 2019 16: 47
          Quote: 210ox
          he is illegal.

          and the timing of the verification is not important? How then, during the transition period, all differences were frozen? So far, much has been frozen. And on the counters - did not freeze? After all, one could wait for the verification period and replace everything. And so, under the stick, everything changed.
          1. +2
            1 August 2019 16: 56
            It’s not a matter of verification, but the fact that this device in Russia is not a commercial meter. I agree that it was possible to tolerate, especially since there are devices from foreign manufacturers in Germany, Denmark, and the Czech Republic in the register. Well, it's .. You yourself understand. I also changed the counter last year, they actually handed it to me, although it was possible to buy cheaper.
            1. +2
              1 August 2019 18: 16
              Quote: 210ox
              You yourself understand.

              I understand how people understood
    6. +2
      1 August 2019 10: 07
      By the way, in the media this topic is being circulated so that in each apartment buildings, at the expense of the tenants, a double-circuit gas boiler designed for heating water and heating is installed.
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 10: 08
        that's just a decent boiler price

        Yeah and change it, every 10 -15 years, at the expense of the residents)))
        1. +1
          1 August 2019 10: 22
          Well, how would you like the municipal authority of the central Russian city will not spend such expenses the region will push the city to this problem, the residents will collect it from us again, but I must say a good topic: I lived in an apartment with a double-circuit boiler, I paid for gas on the heating meter when I wanted to turn on the water as the column heats up
    7. 0
      1 August 2019 11: 13
      Quote: lucul
      except in the ex USSR.
      Everyone has a boiler in their houses.
      It's time for us to move on to this.

      Can we change the prefix ex? And again, the USSR and the ex-world!
  6. +15
    1 August 2019 07: 02
    Housing and communal services reform has completely failed and turned into an open weaning of money from the population.
    1. +5
      1 August 2019 09: 40
      Quote: magirus2000
      Housing and communal services reform has completely failed and turned into an open weaning of money from the population.

      yes, but do not forget that 50% of the residents themselves are to blame !! .... who goes to meetings and votes for tariffs? who is elected to the council of the house that doesn’t do anything? .... nowadays everyone needs to leave the management companies and create TSN .... where everything is 100% transparent and decide by voting at general meetings what to do in what sequence! And to dump the Management Company or (easier) HOA (TSN) from home, who are interested in writing, I’ll teach you!
      1. 0
        1 August 2019 10: 12
        Write me pliz at us UK just nonsense
      2. +2
        1 August 2019 15: 30
        Quote: Tiksi-3
        who goes to meetings and votes for tariffs? who is elected to the council of the house that doesn’t do anything? .... nowadays everyone needs to leave the management companies and create TSN .... where everything is 100% transparent and decide by voting at general meetings what to do in what sequence!

        In the ...
        I have to unite with my three neighbors, drug addicts (who are already lacking for crap) and "create TSN ...".
        That’s all then - it will "turn around", work, trample the investment ...
        Beauty !
        1. +1
          1 August 2019 15: 38
          Quote: DED_peer_DED
          I have to team up with my three addict neighbors

          then pay to the Managers and wait for years of repairs to the entrances or decades of replacement of elevators. TSN is when you decide when and what to do in MKD
          and why suddenly someone SHOULD invest ??? .... people can be deprived of drug addicts through a court - 3 months of non-payment and onward, but if the amount is 2-5 years, then you can also relocate (sell real estate as a debt for the rest to buy in a remote area) in the neighboring TSN have already done so
    2. 0
      1 August 2019 11: 58
      And remember who invented and implemented this reform. For them, this is a golden feeding trough.
  7. +17
    1 August 2019 07: 43
    Citizens connect the presidential tariff "Stability"
    Presidential tariff "Stability" - stable at the bottom laughing
    1. +3
      1 August 2019 10: 04
      Quote: spirit
      Citizens connect the presidential tariff "Stability"

      Nonsense!
  8. +1
    1 August 2019 07: 56
    As before, reporting comes first. No need to go far. It’s worth while walking in a communal apartment from your apartment to the kitchen. And the house management remained at the same level. Someone may have been lucky with their employees, but not for us. There were alternative farms. But they quickly disappeared (having done little), and again inquiries and recalculation. I'm not talking about the beautiful facades of houses, and squalor inside.
    1. 0
      1 August 2019 15: 47
      Quote: nikvic46
      I'm not talking about the beautiful facades of houses, and squalor inside.

      After the flood (we had it in the south, several years ago), the roof authorities in all the houses were replaced. Enough ...
      The MAIN is unlikely to come to us anymore, but on a helicopter he can fly by and fly by. They will show "the blossoming of the Garden City" (I didn't say that) from above, right along the way, without "descending from Heaven."
  9. +4
    1 August 2019 08: 15
    As I understand it, for everyone their topics and cooks will not go here. As if different sites in one bottle.
  10. +8
    1 August 2019 08: 18
    Putin has long had to resign!
    1. -17
      1 August 2019 08: 53
      Quote: Million
      Putin has long had to resign!

      Well yes. The laws are passed by the elected Duma, and Putin is to blame. Stumble!
      1. +9
        1 August 2019 09: 18
        Who signs it?
        1. -6
          1 August 2019 09: 25
          Quote: Million
          Who signs it?

          And who publishes, after which the law enters into force? And before that, who approved the law?
          As an example of one of the laws:


          And only after this is the signature of the president guaranteeing that this law does not violate the Constitution.

          The president’s signature is his constitutional obligation to ensure that the laws adopted do not violate the Constitution, of which he is the guarantor.
      2. +10
        1 August 2019 10: 07
        Quote: Boris55
        Well yes. The laws are passed by the elected Duma, and Putin is to blame.


        Quote: Boris55
        Zashibis!

        is he on their dance floor and on the podium? Or is it a catwalk?
        1. -9
          1 August 2019 10: 50
          Quote: Silvestr
          is he on their dance floor and on the podium? Or is it a catwalk?

          That's who we slipped him in the Duma elections, so he works. Medvedev has been the chairman of United Russia since the 2012 year, and since that year, Putin has never taken advantage of their structure in all subsequent elections. It does not matter working with the rest of the Duma factions - they don’t decide what.
          1. +4
            1 August 2019 11: 20
            Quote: Boris55
            It does not matter working with the rest of the Duma factions - they don’t decide what.

            Boris! All this is understandable, but, you see, who trampled the field of the opposition?
            See what happens - systemic opposition - non-opposition. and spoilers. But if a new figure appears, they begin to trample it. I would have trusted you, but the story of Grudinin, the elections to the Moscow City Duma and Sevastopol. Everywhere administrative and power resources are applied, which obeys Putin, but not EP.
            After all, the problem is that it is the power resource that wants EP to win all elections! But why?
            Yes, because it is the absolute majority of the EP in the State Duma that will allow for any optimization of the Constitution for any person. The most relevant now is Putin. So, it turns out, the hand washes a hand.
            I plug in that only a strong and confident president can afford to keep smart people and the opposition close to him. But against this background, a weak president may be lost. what we see now.
            Without fresh water, any body of water turns into a swamp.
          2. -1
            1 August 2019 12: 00
            Blessed is he who believes ...
          3. +1
            1 August 2019 21: 30
            Quote: Boris55
            That's who we slipped him in the Duma elections, so he works.

            Did you personally slip?
            And how did you PERSONALLY select candidates? smile
    2. -8
      1 August 2019 09: 24
      Well, yes, but to choose Vladislav ... we’ll live IMMEDIATELY! AK will show the management class, and we will live
      1. +3
        1 August 2019 09: 27
        Heal! Don’t worry
    3. -1
      1 August 2019 18: 02
      Putin will leave - all problems will remain - who will you blame further?
      1. +1
        1 August 2019 18: 37
        Problems will not go away right away. Probably an adult, must understand
        1. 0
          2 August 2019 20: 39
          Problems will not go away in 10 years - your hopes are empty.
          1. 0
            2 August 2019 20: 42
            yes you are a desperate pessimist
  11. +15
    1 August 2019 08: 20
    You can moan and be indignant to the point of dropping. Within the framework of the existing socio-political structure of the Russian Federation it can be only this way and not otherwise. The possibility of realizing the greed for profit does not leave the population any opportunity for a fair decision in any area. The bourgeoisie firmly holds the levers and will milk the people to the very extreme point, beyond which there is a bloody mess. This story has known many times, and not only here. The well-fed does not understand the hungry and always considers him as a victim - food in the food chain. Moreover, they do it very aggressively and assertively, backing everything up with a "legislative framework"
    A simple example - for the left only 5 !!! minutes of a car require a quarter of the Moscow pension and are threatened with administrative arrest for non-payment. All of them grew out of 90s reciters and operate by the same methods.
  12. +11
    1 August 2019 08: 38
    " However, the Russians swallowed years of free living without a earned pension, so why not crank something similar through the housing and communal services? "

    Well ... Who in the last presidential election voted for Putin?
    Well? And how do you like it now? Fun?
    Are you happy that your chosen one made you happy almost immediately after the victory, with the full support of the cannibalistic law on raising the retirement age?
    Are you glad that the country, under his sensitive leadership, is heading straight for the baseboard?
    Are you happy that the number of poor and taxes is growing, and salaries are in no hurry?

    Alas ... I had to think before voting ... and now it's too late ... the train left.

    Now the only way ... exclusively on the cartoon ...


    How Pugacheva sang there ... Will there still be, oh-oh-oh-oh

    PS Personally, I voted for Grudinin and today I am proud of it!
    1. -8
      1 August 2019 08: 58
      Quote: Brigadier
      Well ... Who in the last presidential election voted for Putin?
      Well? And how do you like it now? Fun?

      I voted for Putin, so what?
      Our whole life, including and housing and communal services, regulated by laws adopted by our elect in the Duma. You can change Putin for at least a dozen Pupkins, but if the Duma remains bourgeois, then when it does not adopt laws in the interests of the people.

      Quote: Brigadier
      PS Personally, I voted for Grudinin and today I am proud of it!

      In my opinion, absolutely nothing.
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        +9
        1 August 2019 09: 44
        Quote: Boris55
        I voted for Putin, so what?

        Who would doubt it ...
      3. -8
        1 August 2019 22: 16
        I support! We got these ever-aching losers! At the porches they spoil, bulls throw past the ballot box, they kick the bulldozer at work, dreaming of kickbacks, they cannot wash the toilet at home, and Putin is to blame for everything !!! Grudinin - a dummy and a balabol!
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    3. +9
      1 August 2019 10: 06
      Quote: Brigadier
      Well ... Who in the last presidential election voted for Putin?

      1. 0
        1 August 2019 10: 40
        [quote = Silvestr] [/ quote]
        That's right. We chose this about the bourgeois Duma, and now we want it to pass laws in the interests of the people. Madhouse on wheels.
      2. 0
        1 August 2019 18: 06
        "The growth of poverty" You turned it down, in 2000 there were more than 60% of the poor in Russia - and this poverty was striking - wherever you go, now there is no such thing.
    4. -6
      1 August 2019 12: 14
      I voted. For Putin. I'm not complaining about life.
      1. -1
        1 August 2019 18: 09
        I voted for Putin the same way, and I also don’t complain about life - since I achieved everything with my labor, despite the rather catastrophic moments in my life.
    5. -1
      1 August 2019 15: 56
      Quote: Brigadier
      Personally, I voted for Grudinin and today I am proud of it!

      Personally, I voted (last time) back in the USSR in the mid-80s.
    6. +1
      2 August 2019 17: 48
      Quote: Brigadier
      PS Personally, I voted for Grudinin and today I am proud of it!
      is the one who spoke strictly opposite what is written in the official program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation ??? !!
      Well, well ... take pride on ... the owner 96% of shares of CJSC "The collective farm ...
      for understanding - while the collective farm was an OJSC without the consent of the shareholders, it was impossible to do anything with the property. But this is not required in the ZAO - it can even sell its share (4,2 billion) tomorrow to anyone, even to Trump ....
  13. +9
    1 August 2019 09: 00
    Insolently completely. We do not have a social state except for our own.
    1. +2
      1 August 2019 09: 34
      and in 91m Putin chose for us which way to go? Yeltsin, Yeltsin ... shouted ... and now ...
      1. +2
        1 August 2019 16: 02
        Quote: besik
        Yeltsin, Yeltsin ... shouted ... and now ...

        The fact that you speak for yourself is right.
        I (when Bucha was in Moscow) spoke out loud in the team that "These, like - new, worse than those that were - will be ..". For which my face was almost corrected, the team separated us.
        And, as you see, I was not mistaken.
  14. +13
    1 August 2019 09: 48
    Here it’s obviously time to deal with the analysis of the rubble and the Accounts Chamber, and the Prosecutor General’s Office with the Investigative Committee.

    they will not do it! In proportion. So the son of the Attorney General took up the garbage, immediately garbage reform arose. Today, garbage is in the same place, the board has increased significantly.
    So in everything.
  15. +4
    1 August 2019 11: 49
    Once and forever.
    In the country where political power belongs to the oligarchs.The courts, FAS, prosecutors and other state bodies are just a screen, which the power of the oligarchs covers from the people of their wolf nature. In such a country, all state bodies are controlled by the oligarchy, they just create the appearance of democracy, patriotism, legality, etc. according to the list.It’s clearly time to deal with the analysis of the rubble and the Accounts Chamber, and the Prosecutor General’s Office with the Investigative Committee" stupidly.
    1. -2
      1 August 2019 12: 16
      Nothing like this. Our HOA was suing the Criminal Code just about the tariffs. The court ruled in favor of the HOA. Hang the noodles on your ears.
      1. +4
        1 August 2019 12: 20
        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Nothing like this. Our HOA was suing the Criminal Code just about the tariffs. The court ruled in favor of the HOA. Hang the noodles on your ears.


        You are not good at reading, and worse at thinking. Alas.
    2. -6
      1 August 2019 18: 18
      Once again, your oligarchs are to blame for everything - maybe your guys from the people are to blame: numerous speculators whose neighbors are poorer, gouging workers who carry out their duties through Jo, like local officials of all levels, who put their own fish in Russia from the head and from the tail the same thing, all this happens simultaneously.
      1. +3
        1 August 2019 18: 35
        Quote: Vadim237
        Once again, your oligarchs are to blame for everything - maybe your guys from the people are to blame: numerous speculators whose neighbors are poorer, gouging workers who carry out their duties through Jo, like local officials of all levels, who put their own fish in Russia from the head and from the tail the same thing, all this happens simultaneously.


        That is, the oligarchs’s head is still to blame? Wow, they started to think. Who created the conditions and who should press speculators? People or power? If the people, then why such power, if the government doesn’t press what?
        1. 0
          2 August 2019 20: 46
          Yes, because hitting a business - speculators - will lead to shocking consequences for the country's economy. I will also become an oligarch in the export of high-tech products - will you begin to blame me for the fact that you live so bad or the crop has not grown?
          1. -1
            2 August 2019 20: 50
            Quote: Vadim237
            Yes, because hitting a business - speculators - will lead to shocking consequences for the country's economy. I will also become an oligarch in the export of high-tech products - will you begin to blame me for the fact that you live so bad or the crop has not grown?


            And if you don’t put things in order? Is it better? And how long will this agony last? Have you calculated the consequences of speculation?
            The operation has matured, if not cool.
      2. 0
        2 August 2019 20: 51
        Quote: Vadim237
        Once again, your oligarchs are to blame for everything - maybe your guys from the people are to blame: numerous speculators whose neighbors are poorer, gouging workers who carry out their duties through Jo, like local officials of all levels, who put their own fish in Russia from the head and from the tail the same thing, all this happens simultaneously.


        Who is your speculator?
  16. +3
    1 August 2019 12: 58
    In the comments on the YouTube you can often find statements like: "I want to go to the USSR."
    For some time, more and more people write: "I want to go to another planet."
    1. -6
      1 August 2019 18: 20
      "I want to another planet" - Called Maddom.
  17. +2
    1 August 2019 14: 00
    The main thing is that the doshik does not rise in price!
    1. -3
      1 August 2019 18: 22
      On Doshik you get fat.
      1. +3
        1 August 2019 19: 00
        On Doshik you get fat.

        My wife and I also noticed that my daughter began to get fat. But this is easily solved - for one day - one bag of doshik.
        Sometimes, when I can catch a pigeon, we eat a bird. It's like a chicken, but a dove.
        By the way, my wife found a package from "Pyaterochka" on the street, so she decided to sew dresses for her daughter. Ehh, now she's a fashionista!
        That’s what, but I don’t understand the power mug. Everything is stable with us, everything we need is there.
        1. 0
          2 August 2019 20: 48
          Dig gophers and keep the garden - the most nutritious and healthy food.
    2. +2
      1 August 2019 21: 26
      Quote: Jack O'Neill
      The main thing is that the doshik does not rise in price!


      Doshirak is unhealthy - there is palm oil

      Edible pine bark and more ...
      http://survivalbook.ru/sedobnaya-sosnovaya-kora/
  18. +5
    1 August 2019 15: 30
    A positive result was obtained only because the Romir asked about the tariffs just when they had not yet increased.
    in general, the management company works fine with us, but in the winter I paid for an apartment closer to 8 tyr (72 sq.m) now without heating 4 tyr (before rising in price). I have a pension of 10.6 tyr., I’m not satisfied with the tariffs, but the manager company (pleased with her work). conflict of interest
  19. +3
    1 August 2019 19: 05
    Not later than in the spring they wrote that the services of enti, as much as twice as high. For a minute, he said, I do not remember exactly, but it seems like Kudrin. hi
  20. +1
    2 August 2019 10: 34
    Quote: lucul
    You understand - the state in Russia can easily raise people 's salaries up to $ 2 - $ 000 per month, but it’s all expenses, the state will shift it from itself to the shoulders of people.
    This should have been done back in 1991, but at the same time, the poorest people will suffer ....

    Yes, for two decades they say that we pay "a small share" ...
    We started telling tales from 20 ... 30%!
    Payments for communal services increased ... eleven times, but we still pay a LITTLE!
    And when they lowered the temperature of hot water by 10 degrees, did someone lower the price of hot water?
    That let's still have our own tales !!!!!!!!!!!
  21. 0
    3 August 2019 16: 39
    I honestly did not quite understand from the article what exactly lies the unbearable and catherically disgusting deception to me.
    There are counters around, they count how much I wound. Then the readings are multiplied by the tariff, and a figure comes out.
    That is, shake less, the number in paper will be less.
    Well, but the price increase ... Someone thought that they would someday fall ?! We seem to be adults here.
  22. 0
    4 August 2019 14: 30
    Hmmm, but I have a question ... Energy resources belong to the state, well, something like that. Suppliers of water, energy, heat, gas - private traders, housing and communal services to the public provide private traders, a decent percentage of the receipts is their profit.
    Attention, a question, WHO is superfluous in this chain ?!
  23. +1
    5 August 2019 21: 27
    Monopolists greedy these housing and communal services = do nothing = only collect money
  24. -1
    8 August 2019 05: 55
    "It is not for nothing that the word housing and communal services has the letter Ж and the letter X" winked

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