Reflections on a stolen Russian history

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To colonize someone, you need to steal from him historical memory and replace the myths that the colonialists need. With such a phrase, the famous publicist and economist Mikhail Delyagin begins his story about the repeatedly stolen history of the Russian people.

Reflections on a stolen Russian history




In his video on the Day TV channel, Delyagin cites several facts regarding how foreign “partners” tried to turn Russian lands into their own colonies, for which they used displaced historical messages, fictional events and in general everything that struck historical the truth.

As an example, Mikhail Delyagin cites the works of Lomonosov and Tatishchev, who were not accepted by his contemporaries. “Not accepted” is relatively soft. In fact, both one and the other were subjected to harsh criticism of their positions on Russian history by German professors, who, as we know, in the XVIII century Russia was much more than domestic ones.

The video features the book by Anatoly Klyosov, The DNA Genealogy of the Slavs, which sheds light on our origin through genetic research and the conclusions drawn from them. Mikhail Delyagin talks about why the Russian civilization is still trying to hide the truth about the origin of the Slavs.

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    31 July 2019 12: 41
    This is Delyagin. The same Samsonov, but on a more abstruse level.
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    31 July 2019 12: 49
    There is a good film, instructive! "Kill the dragon" ..... what about the dragon dad, the dragon's son, the conqueror taught .... first of all, destroy the ARCHIVES !!! No archive, do sho hosh with history. Only human memory is a certain, relative barrier against lies. Those in power have never loved very memorable people! And if memorable, and even a STORYTELLER !!! such a straight road .... well, very far and for a very long time, forever!
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      31 July 2019 16: 01
      how you are absolutely right! And you can imagine the disappointment of the historian who spent a lot of money and time reading the HISTORICAL document and discovered, let’s say so, facts that do not coincide with reality. however, excavations can give a lot, but they are more expensive at times
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        31 July 2019 17: 19
        rocket
        After the accession, the Romanovs followed the dragon advice that you quoted. The destruction of the STATE ARCHIVES by the Romanovs lasted more than one decade.
        Already under Peter, laws were adopted to prosecute all who found ancient books and manuscripts. When a book was found, the head of the family was killed, all those suspected of reading flogging and hard labor were sold, the rest were sold to monasteries. The clergy took over the supervision of what the population reads or writes.
        It was under Peter that literate people became rare in Russia. The government apparatus was rebuilt by the Germans. Not knowing the Russian language, the epics edited and ruled. Then the story * of Russia was born * which, until now, has been taught to us at school and in universities.
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          31 July 2019 20: 46
          Quote: Vasily50
          The Romanovs, after the accession, followed the dragon's advice,

          According to some historians, the ROMANOVs were "smeared" for the most do not indulge! And during the period of the Seven Boyars and during the invasion of the Poles .... in short, they had to hide!
          Peter was great! He built his power in his own way of joining Europe! He and the honors for that and the great claims ...... with the great, reformers are always like that.
          On my scales, his creative deeds outweigh the negative that he brought to Russian land!
      2. 0
        31 July 2019 20: 48
        Quote: karabass
        And you can imagine the disappointment of the historian who spent a lot of money and time reading the HISTORICAL document and discovered, let’s say so - facts that do not coincide with reality

        And who believes that TRUE is "honey"? There is plenty of bitterness in it. You must always be ready for this!
  5. -3
    31 July 2019 12: 55
    In fact, one and the other were severely criticized by their German professors on Russian history, who, as you know, in the XNUMXth century there were much more in Russia than Russian ones.

    Here is the "legacy" of Peter the Great ...
    At first, when Christianity was planted, the entire history of the Slavs was corroded like heresy.
    And then, under Peter the Great, the monastic libraries were already "cleaned up". The people were illiterate, only monks could write and read. Therefore, the purge was not difficult. As a result, the Russians became - Ivans who did not remember their kinship.
    How these manipulation technologies work (and they are thousands of years old) you can see in / in Ukraine - how many years have passed, but the mentality is changing ....
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      31 July 2019 17: 27
      I specify. When Christianity was planted, the entire history of the Slavs was corroded, as "dirty paganism".
      Under Peter Great, "cleaned up" the monastic libraries and the struggle with the Old Believers, they carried knowledge of history with them to the sketches. And then Catherine Great(Shletser and Miller), Karamzin (not a bottom for him, not tires), and on the little things Solovyov, etc.
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        18 September 2019 14: 53
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        they planted Christianity - the entire history of the Slavs was corroded as "dirty paganism".

        Zionism since 1917, and after the advent of humpback-eltsin, it particularly erases the history of Russia
    2. 0
      1 August 2019 07: 09
      Rulers do not need smart people - illiteracy is easier to manage !!!
  6. -3
    31 July 2019 12: 59
    Well, the story is always bent in a convenient direction. Yes, and under Lomonosov and beyond - the problem was not with history, but with science in general, to recall the very same Mendeleev’s nitropowder, which they later bought from the British, or Porokhovschikov. There is no prophet in his own country - so it still remains - not accepted yet in service due to the unfinished work of the F-35 - uber-wafer, and Su-57 - a, garbage
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      31 July 2019 13: 04
      There is no prophet in his own country

      This is not true .....
      The classic case - the wife subtly manipulates her husband ...
      They do the same with Russia - they subtly manipulate. The gravest mistake of Russia is that it proceeds from the fact that the enemy has male thinking, and this is not so .... There is completely female thinking and mentality. As soon as Russia realizes this, everything will become much simpler ....
  7. +4
    31 July 2019 13: 12
    And all this was covered by the Romanovs.)))
    1. -3
      31 July 2019 13: 17
      And all this was covered by the Romanovs.)))

      Do you think someone else would be allowed to deliver? )))
      After the pure alpha male Ivan the Terrible, Romanov’s gamma male was placed on the throne ....
  8. +5
    31 July 2019 13: 22
    When I was little, we were also taught history at school. The only thing that always struck me-annoyed - everyone had either pyramids, or pantheons, or a coliseum, or stonehenge, or even some liverwurst or Bastille, which was almost a national holiday in the USSR. And in Russia they wrote on birch bark, weaved bast shoes, fought with bears in a booze and ... time !!!
    Moscow was founded by Prince Yuri Dolgoruky!fellow
    It can be seen by someone in Europe that the Russians smashed their faces very well that they tried to forget these things ...
    The purpose of falsification of history is understandable - to present Russia as a kind of herd of primitive communal system.
    It is disgusting for me to listen to and hear explanations of historical events thirty years ago, lists of the merits of figures whose place in a good sense is in the "dustbin of history", and in a bad one - on bunks ... And this is in the presence of eyewitnesses, this is with the available documentaries and photographs .. ...
    I’m afraid that we will never know our true history, nor the reasons that prompted Russia to accept a foreign religion, a foreign Faith ... What happened so sacred that the Russians had to renounce their gods and accept a Jewish historical account of being? Why are we forced to worship the merits and merits of the dead and marvel at the hypocrisy and hypocrisy of living ministers?
    Delyagin only indicated the direction, but who can vouch for the truth of this vector?
    hi
    1. -1
      31 July 2019 13: 30
      The only thing that always struck me was annoying

      You think in the right direction.
    2. 0
      31 July 2019 13: 35
      For the whole of Russia it is not necessary to verb. THE ORTHODOX FRAUD is not a stranger to me, my grandfathers and great-grandfathers shed blood for it, beaten faces for adversaries and Basurmans, and I will stand on that and taught my children and grandchildren vow ... Without faith there is no truth, and without truth there is no Russia . I have the honor.
      1. +1
        31 July 2019 13: 52
        Orthodox from - The right to praise?
        1. +1
          31 July 2019 13: 55
          "Praise the Right" is closer to me
          1. -1
            31 July 2019 14: 07
            We won’t argue, but I won’t put a plus sign (but I wanted to).
      2. +1
        31 July 2019 14: 08
        Dear Alexander! Good afternoon! Sorry, but on the helmet of Ivan the Terrible, suras from the Koran were engraved. He was probably a basurman?
        1. -2
          31 July 2019 14: 16
          Most likely it is a trophy, or even more likely - part of the gifts. And so they subjected them to Christian tuning, and left beautiful curls.
          1. +3
            31 July 2019 15: 03
            Most likely this is a trophy
            Here is a quote from the records of the Tver merchant Athanasius Nikitin
            For the prayer of our holy fathers, Lord Jesus Christ, son of God,
            have mercy on me, the slave of your sinful Athanasius Nikitin son. Yes, and the Podolsk land is offensive to everyone. And Russia er tangred saklasyn; Ollo Sacla, Thin Sacla! Bu daniada munu kibit yer ektur; Little Urus Yeri fugitive aka Tugil; Urus yer abodan bolsyn; gives the cam. Ollo, Hoodo, God, Danyirs.
            You can certainly remember grandfathers and great-grandfathers, but we don’t know the story from the word at all. It is enough to see how we are lying about those times that we remember ourselves.
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            31 July 2019 15: 18
            You are mistaken, dear .. On the helmet of Alexander Nevsky you can see 13 ayah 61 Surahs of the Koran. You can immediately think of either a trophy or a gift from any eastern ruler who sent an embassy to Russia. Alas ... The author of this helmet is Russian master Mikita Davydov. The same inscriptions in Arabic are But on the shishak of Prince Mstislavsky F.I. What do you think what other writing was popular in Russia. Besides the Glagolitic and Cyrillic letters. Guess three times ... Correctly-arabica By the way, the Orthodox cross adjoins Mstislavsky’s helmet with surahs from the Koran ... How To you this ... historians have lied. Do not be lazy to find the Crossing of the Three Seas Athanasius Nikitin .. After all, she is half written in Tatar .. And all the prayers are written in Arabic ... Athanasius does not even seem to notice easily switching from Russian to Tatar and all prayers in Arabic .. numismatists will confirm. Old coins of 14 = 15 centuries have inscriptions in Arabic or in Russian and Arabic at the same time .. Up until the reign of Grozny. Ivan
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              31 July 2019 15: 19
              Thanks, be sure to watch.
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          31 July 2019 14: 26
          Dear Konstantin! Good afternoon! And where is the Quran? Orthodoxy is tolerant of any religion except paganism. Ivan IV was a dedicated man, and he was far from formidable for everyone. For me, a Christian fanatic is as much a Basurman as an Islamist fanatic.
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            31 July 2019 14: 40
            Clear. Sorry, but our modern sophistry of the Russian Orthodox Church, is it Orthodoxy or not? bully
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              31 July 2019 14: 49
              Why should I forgive you?
              People are weak today, it is the influence of sins. We will not measure all with one measure. And in the Russian Orthodox Church there are worthy ministers. From childhood, I was taught to protect what we have (this is not about things or money).
          2. +2
            31 July 2019 22: 05
            Quote: Aleksandr_68
            Orthodoxy is tolerant of any religion except paganism.

            Christian Orthodoxy - orthodox, derived from Deuteronomy - is truly negative to paganism.
            In pre-Christian times, the ancestors followed the laws of Law - nature, glorified the Gods and ancestors. This is the meaning of the word Orthodoxy. Modern church holidays are almost all - overlays on pagan calendar, that is - plagiarism. The Church is the only institution that has betrayed pre-Christian Orthodoxy to ostracism for 1000 years. We should not become refuseniks, but we must appreciate the spiritual work of our ancestors.
            To the question of Nathanael (below): before the church reform of Nikon in the middle of the 17th century, Christianity in Russia was called "orthodox".
      3. +1
        31 July 2019 17: 26
        And do not tell me how ORTHODOXITY differs from the Basurman JUSTICE
  9. -2
    31 July 2019 14: 03
    The Germans stole the story from us! Shocked!
    Current is a nuance.
    And who stole the story from the Germans? And who stole the story from the Armenians? And who stole the story from the Turks? And who stole the story from the Jews? And generally speaking! Who stole the story from everyone? And most importantly, why? And what was done with the stolen?
    Does this DNA geniology have answers to these questions? AND?
    Or did Delyagin again fall into banal Trotskyism? Oh, No! Wrong! Delyagin, however, does not come out of Trotskyism! Bo has a nest there!
    Ha ha ha ha! bully
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      1 August 2019 07: 18
      At the expense of Jewish history, read the Old Testament, it is described in great detail there.
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        1 August 2019 07: 39
        Quote: Vivisector
        At the expense of the history of the Jews, read the Old Testament, it is described in great detail there

        What? AND? Heh! And who wrote it to them? AND? You do not know? And he didn’t just write, but wrote exactly as she was written in this covenant! Have you read this covenant that you advise you to read it? So I read it 3-4 times and studied Kabbalah and the Torah and generally read all the five books! And that is precisely why I do not recommend these works to the study of everything they meet and cross! And only after a long conversation with a person and only when I see that a person is ready to read such works! fool
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    31 July 2019 15: 07
    Where so many comments have gone !?))
    1. +3
      31 July 2019 15: 37
      Freedom of speech is.
  12. As I understand it, couch neo-historians who have not read either Lomonosov, Tatishchev, or "German" historians will now come and sing about stolen Russian history ... about flat earth ... about perpetual motion machines with magnets ... oh conspiracy theories ... and other crap.
    “The dream of reason gives birth to monsters” (Spanish: El sueño de la razón produce monstruos)
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      31 July 2019 16: 03
      The Jew will be silent in the matter of Russian history - he will pass for the clever.
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        31 July 2019 17: 42
        Quote: Operator
        The Jew will be silent in the matter of Russian history - he will pass for the clever.

        I bet you will not keep silent, there is no holding.
      2. 0
        1 August 2019 12: 39
        If you believe the treatises of the Middle Ages and the fact that Canaan and Arabia were next to Israel, a lot of information about the Canaan language was preserved. Having collected them, we get a Canaan-Hebrew dictionary. For ease of reading, we will make Canaan-Russian. Compare: SHNIH-snow, MKUM-poppy, PRINUS-feather-bed, KUBILA-mare AKRIN-krynka, LUKIT-elbow, PUMITLU-pomelo, PIUCI-leech, KUPITU-hooves, OAK-oak and there are , RAZOR-sharp weapon, KNUPI-hemp, IBUS is already clear, CIRCLE circle, AT SCHOOL-at school, STRGDA-Wednesday. Well, etc., etc. Doesn’t resemble anything? That's right. The basis is Slavic It turns out that Canaan-Czech Republic Slovakia Poland is Western Ukraine. Arabia-France Belgium is all western Europe. So it turns out the biblical people are Europeans. And Israel is the Khazaria .. The territory of Ancient Russia, Part of the bottom ... Polish preserved coins-signed in Jewish letters .. So the Jews are not silent .. This kagal made us Russian ..... well ... you ... I lied .....
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          1 August 2019 14: 51
          Jews became Russian subjects only in the 18 century after the partition of Poland and the incorporation of Lithuania into the Russian Empire. Prior to this, the residence of persons practicing Judaism in the territory of the Grand Duchy of Moscow, the Kingdom of the Russian and Russian Empire was prohibited.

          At the same time, Polish-Lithuanian Jews did not speak Hebrew (referring to the Semitic language family), but Yiddish (referring to the German language family).

          In addition, Hebrew (the language of religious books and services) Jews (except rabbis) did not speak for about 2500 years after they switched to the Syrian (and not Canaanite) Arabs - Aramaic. Hebrew was artificially restored as the spoken language of the Jews only after the formation of the state of Israel in 1947.
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            1 August 2019 15: 54
            Your will .. but it’s some kind of absurdity .. And where did the phenomenon of the heresy of the Judaizers come from .. Such pillars of Christianity in Russia as Archbishop Gennady, Joseph Volotsky were involved in it. Kiev Jew brought Sharia to Russia ... Cathedral 1504 was convened to fight this infection .. Yes, and if you take an interest in the epic cycle about Ilya of Muromets, then Ilya repeatedly butted the hero Zhidovin. Yes, and if you look at the place names of Kiev, we will find many names associated with the stay of Jews in Russia. eg
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              1 August 2019 16: 14
              The Judaizers (placing the Old Testament-Torah above the New Testament — the Gospel) are a sect among Russians.

              The Russian state was in contact with the Jews before the Mongol invasion: first with the Jewish elite of the Khazar Khaganate (before its defeat by Prince Svyatoslav), and then with Jewish merchants from Central Asia (before the adoption of Christianity by Prince Vladimir).

              Oak - a ticket in Aramaic, a demb in Yiddish, Elun in Hebrew.
    2. 0
      31 July 2019 22: 28
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
      now sofa neo-historians who have read neither


      Dear Efim, what is the cause of irritable skepticism? Snobbery? All of us are “advanced” in information to varying degrees, please share it, all “wondrous” ones will be grateful. By the way, I would advise everyone irritable to be more attentive to their liver.
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    31 July 2019 15: 41
    If we don’t want to, nobody will steal anything from us, neither money nor history. And if we open our mouths like fish and keep quiet while we are worthless.
    1. -1
      31 July 2019 17: 49
      Quote: Ros 56
      If we don’t want to, nobody will steal anything from us, neither money nor history. And if we open our mouths like fish and keep quiet while we are worthless.

      Here is an adult (with 56?), And wrote ..... We want, we want. Everything is already stolen before us. We bombed Jerosima and fought against democracies with Hitler, this is with them and tomorrow we will leave, and we will. You have Stalin stolen from under his nose, and the government, I, I, the tyrant and the radish.
      1. -1
        31 July 2019 21: 28
        They didn’t steal anything from us, you will go to extremes, then you will see.
  14. Quote: ROSS 42
    When I was little, we were also taught history at school. The only thing that always struck me-annoyed - everyone had either pyramids, or pantheons, or a coliseum, or stonehenge, or even some liverwurst or Bastille, which was almost a national holiday in the USSR. And in Russia they wrote on birch bark, weaved bast shoes, fought with bears in a booze and ... time !!!
    Moscow was founded by Prince Yuri Dolgoruky!fellow
    It can be seen by someone in Europe that the Russians smashed their faces very well that they tried to forget these things ...
    The purpose of falsification of history is understandable - to present Russia as a kind of herd of primitive communal system.
    It is disgusting for me to listen to and hear explanations of historical events thirty years ago, lists of the merits of figures whose place in a good sense is in the "dustbin of history", and in a bad one - on bunks ... And this is in the presence of eyewitnesses, this is with the available documentaries and photographs .. ...
    I’m afraid that we will never know our true history, nor the reasons that prompted Russia to accept a foreign religion, a foreign Faith ... What happened so sacred that the Russians had to renounce their gods and accept a Jewish historical account of being? Why are we forced to worship the merits and merits of the dead and marvel at the hypocrisy and hypocrisy of living ministers?
    Delyagin only indicated the direction, but who can vouch for the truth of this vector?
    hi

    ***
    "When I was little, we were taught history at school too" ...
    "- When I was little, I also had a grandmother. But for all these years I could not grieve her to death. But he - could! - Do you want a compote?"
    "Why did you kill your grandmother ?!"
    If history was taught at school, and ROSS 42 studied it, he would not ask such questions that “everyone has either pyramids, or pantheons, or a colosseum, or stonehenge, or some other liver sausage or Bastille, the capture of which was almost a national holiday in the USSR. And in Russia they wrote on birch bark, weaved bast shoes, fought with bears drunk and ... once !!! "
    And time! The Russians built the Great Wall of China, the pyramids, became Etruscans, Hyperboreans, Aces, Mogolotartars, Nords, sons of the Bad Gods and, moreover, ROSSs 42 ...
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      31 July 2019 17: 52
      I will specify:... the sons of the White Gods ...
  15. +1
    31 July 2019 15: 55
    VO is full of Russophobes claiming the title of "historian".
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      31 July 2019 19: 44
      You can’t imagine how historians fiercely argue, including doctors of science. After all, apart from the Roman Empire, historical documents are crumbs. And if you start a historical debate about the history of the Russian state, it’s easy to pass for a Russophobe. unfortunately
  16. +1
    31 July 2019 16: 05
    Klyosov's theory, to put it mildly, is doubtful
    primarily because he is far from scientific methods
    it is explained in detail and accessible by historian Klim Zhukov in a video by Puchkov
    and I agree that this is not a theory, but only a strange hypothesis that does not have a normal
    justification. If Klesov justifies it - fine, but so far this is not.
  17. Quote: Operator
    The Jew will be silent in the matter of Russian history - he will pass for the clever.

    This Jew is more Russian than an operator like you: your training was probably only on sites and the teachers were the same unlearned operators.
    In essence, the question of history has nothing to say?
    Hack yourself on the nose: the USSR and the Russian Federation are my Motherland, I don’t know how to ignore you, but where not.
    1. -1
      31 July 2019 18: 24
      I graduated from a Soviet school and university, now I live in my native country with the historically correct name "Russia", where the titular nation is more than 80% of the population.

      You should not go into the history issues that definitely do not concern you, if not patience - comment on the sites of your "historical homeland".
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    31 July 2019 17: 39
    Quote: Aleksandr_68
    For the whole of Russia it is not necessary to verb. THE ORTHODOX FRAUD is not a stranger to me, my grandfathers and great-grandfathers shed blood for it, beaten faces for adversaries and Basurmans, and I will stand on that and taught my children and grandchildren vow ... Without faith there is no truth, and without truth there is no Russia . I have the honor.

    Oh, comrade Alexander ...
    True, the FAITH ORTHODOX, Russia, some vows. Words drove in to a complete loss of meaning. Refrain, right. They say so from the stands, for money, for a career, etc. Similar to which there are no examples.
    These words can be endlessly swapped, swapped, and again bayed and louder.
    It makes no sense, but it’s very cracky, and not without income, of course. Quarries again.
    And this will be more useful:
    And when you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love in synagogues and on street corners, stopping to pray in order to appear before people. Verily I say unto you, that they already receive their reward.
    But when you pray, enter your room and, having shut your door, pray to your Father, who is secretly; and your Father who sees the secret will reward you clearly.
    from Matthew

    In my humble opinion, if tomorrow, for some reason, the Russian Orthodox Church falls out of the state trend, the number of "Orthodox honored vows" will decline rapidly, or even worse will be declared "opium" again - and they will completely perish, miserable. As it was, in fact, it was quite recently.
    Kamrad Alexander, do not abuse poor words.
    Give them a break. From all of us. Just match. And clearly reward.
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      1 August 2019 10: 47
      Dear, you quote the Gospel without understanding the meaning of what is written. I’m not afraid to answer for my sins, which I can’t count, and I realize the degree of responsibility. If my post seemed too pathetic to you, pass by, we are not familiar with you. Be healthy, I didn’t want to offend anyone.
  19. Quote: Mavrikiy
    Quote: Operator
    The Jew will be silent in the matter of Russian history - he will pass for the clever.

    I bet you will not keep silent, there is no holding.


    And you, apparently, have incontinence itself, since it’s interrupted?
    And no need to argue.
    In this case, the word "incontinence" is used. At school, even though he studied Russian, a poor student?
  20. Quote: Mavrikiy
    I will specify:... the sons of the White Gods ...

    I'll clarify your mistakes too. Read about the word NON-CONTENT.
    PS And so it is clear that there is a technical typo
  21. Quote: Operator
    I graduated from a Soviet school and university, now I live in my native country with the historically correct name "Russia", where the titular nation is more than 80% of the population.
    You should not go into the history issues that definitely do not concern you, if not patience - comment on the sites of your "historical homeland".


    ***
    I graduated from the Soviet school, the Soviet Higher School of Higher Education and to such an uneducated nationalist (Operator) I declare:
    1. The title nation - there is no such definition in the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
    * The concept of “titular nation” was introduced by Maurice Barres, a French individualist novelist and nationalist politician.
    ** This concept and its definition are absent in the legislation of the Russian Federation.
    2. From the fact that you have "attached" yourself to some kind of "titular nation" outside the legislation, you have not become either smarter, or more educated, or more decent, or better than someone else.
    If you did not understand this in the Soviet school, then go to the first grade of the Russian school, there they will explain to you.
    3. Questions of history, including Russia, concern me no more and no less than you.
    4. With the same success, I can advise you "you should not get involved in history issues that definitely do not concern you, if you are not patient - comment on the sites of your" historical homeland ".
    For the nationalists have only one "historical homeland" - "Nazism"
    5. I inform you that I have one Motherland, one citizenship - Russia - Russian Federation.
    * Constitution of the Russian Federation "(adopted by popular vote on 12.12.1993) (taking into account the amendments introduced by the Laws of the Russian Federation on amendments to the Constitution of the Russian Federation of 30.12.2008 N 6-FKZ, of 30.12.2008 N 7-FKZ, of 05.02.2014 N 2 -FKZ, dated July 21.07.2014, 11 N 1-FKZ) Article 2, part XNUMX. The names Russian Federation and Russia are equivalent.
    6. I inform you. that according to the same Constitution of the Russian Federation, Article 1, part 1. Russian Federation - Russia is a democratic federal legal state with a republican form of government.
    Therefore, it is not for you to determine what to do in a democratic state.
    7. Like all nationalists, you do not shine with logic or with the depth of knowledge.
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      31 July 2019 20: 10
      My parents introduced me to the titular nation of the Russian Federation laughing

      This is not about the history of the Russian state, but about the history of the Russian ethnic group. Therefore, as a representative of a non-Russian ethnic group, it’s better for you to remain silent and stop doing demagogy.
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      31 July 2019 22: 52
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
      The "historical homeland" of the nationalists is one - "Nazism" ...
      Like all nationalists you do not shine ...

      Anyone who has not lost national characteristics is a nationalist. All of this is sophistry and demagogy, with the goal of drowning out national identity.
      "The suffix -ist forms nouns with the meaning of a person by belonging to an institution, profession, a certain social direction (signalman, accordionist, Marxist)."
  22. Quote: Operator
    My parents introduced me to the titular nation of the Russian Federation laughing

    This is not about the history of the Russian state, but about the history of the Russian ethnic group. Therefore, as a representative of a non-Russian ethnic group, it’s better for you to remain silent and stop doing demagogy.

    ***
    That is, they (parents) have inspired you that you are better than the rest, or what? Were they from "Aryans", spoke Hindi, Farsi?
    I’m just the representative of the Russian ethnos: Ethnos (Greek ἔθνος - people) is a historically established stable collection of people united by common objective or subjective attributes, in which various authors include origin, a single language, culture, economy, territory of residence, self-awareness, appearance, mindset and more.
    Here on these grounds, I am more Russian than you.
    I am a man of Soviet, Russian education, Russian culture, I think and speak Russian, I write prose and poetry in Russian, I am read by readers who speak Russian (today Readers: more than 52 thousand) ... true, I write a little in English, translate some poets from English ...
    I believe that I am more imbued with Russian culture, including Russian history, than you.
    You are a superstitious "neohistorical" layman who believes in the stories of the ignorant.
    You would have read real historians first ....
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      31 July 2019 21: 05
      Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
      Ethnicity (Greek ἔθνος - people) is a historically established stable set of people united by common objective or subjective signs, in which various authors include the origin ...

      I have at least a different origin with you.

      And also a different IQ, since you call a person who is an ignoramus who is the editor-in-chief of the largest international anthropological journal and a recognized scientist in his field, including on the part of your fellow tribesmen from the "historical homeland" for their great contribution to the establishment of the history of the Jewish ethnos for 4000 years. existence.

      PS My ancestors spoke and I speak my native language - Russian, Sanskrit dialect.
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      1 August 2019 02: 40
      Well, be simpler, we know our story.
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      1 August 2019 02: 43
      Write less, and everyone will understand you, but if there are a lot of words, then this .... just idiocy.
    4. 0
      1 August 2019 02: 44
      You would have read real historians first ..
      ..
      We got it all. Thank.
    5. 0
      1 August 2019 02: 45
      Again, a day, again a cold.
  23. Quote: Operator
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
    Ethnicity (Greek ἔθνος - people) is a historically established stable set of people united by common objective or subjective signs, in which various authors include the origin ...

    I have at least a different origin with you.

    And also a different IQ, since you call a person who is an ignoramus who is the editor-in-chief of the largest international anthropological journal and a recognized scientist in his field, including on the part of your fellow tribesmen from the "historical homeland" for their great contribution to the establishment of the history of the Jewish ethnos for 4000 years. existence.

    PS My ancestors spoke and I speak my native language - Russian, Sanskrit dialect.

    ***
    1) My IQ was confirmed with three diplomas with honors for higher military special education, for central officer courses, for higher civil engineering education, my successful military, civil, and entrepreneurial careers.
    I don’t know what kind of ideas you have in your journal, however, in history and languages ​​you are weak.
    2) Ha ha ha! You killed me with the phrase "My ancestors spoke and I speak my native language - Russian, Sanskrit dialect" ...
    So I see that you know
    Nuristan languages
    Southern (Kati, Vaigali, Ashkun)
    north (prasun)
    Indo-Aryan languages
    ancient: Sanskrit, Pali, various prakrit, apabhransha
    new: (Sinhala and Maldivian), (Hindi and Urdu, Bengali, Oriya, Punjabi, Sindhi, Gujarati, Marathi, Nepali, etc.), gypsy (European-Gypsy, Domari, etc.), Central Asian (guys)
    Dardic languages (usually referred to as Indo-Aryan).
    Western (Pashai, Khovar, Kalash, etc.)
    Oriental (Kashmiri, tire, etc.)
    Iranian languages
    Southwest (Persian (Farsi), Tajik, Dari, Khazar, Jewish-Persian, Jewish-Tajik, etc.)
    northwestern (Kurmanji, Sorani, South Kurdish, Leki, Balochi, Central Iranian, etc.)
    Southeastern (Pashto, Vanetsi, Shugnansky, Rushansky, Bartangsky, etc.)
    northeastern (Ossetian, Yagnob).
    3. Name more than 380 similar words of Sanskrit and the Russian language, and prove that in Russian there are more similar to Sanskrit words than others: Greek, Latin, German, English, French, Jewish, Turkic, etc. Indo-Iranian group of languages ​​is not a Slavic group of languages.
    You do not understand dead Sanskrit, nor modern Indo-Iranian languages.
    4. How do you, an enlightened person, admit such a stupid heresy into your brain enlightened by anthropology?
    These are the languages ​​of the INDOOR EUROPEAN GROUP, therefore, they are related, therefore, are combined into one group!
    Enlighten
    Svetlana Burlak - Doctor of Philology, Professor of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Leading Researcher at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, author of The Origin of the Language. The report was delivered on June 16, 2018 at the Forum “Scientists Against Myths-7 https://pikabu.ru/story/kakoy_zhe_russkiy_ne_ponimaet_sanskrita_6119226
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      31 July 2019 23: 40
      Comrade Lieutenant Colonel! Stop throwing beads! Well, this individual does not know that nationalism is not possible outside of bourgeois liberalism! Just like many other conditionally Russian cranks proclaim themselves Orthodox prophets broadcasting the truth! Without knowing that the institution of the prophets is not compatible with monastic monotheism, because it is a pagan social management tool! And just not knowing that the truth is God, and therefore there is no church on earth that has the right to the truth! Banal things to sim individuals are not understandable! Those. they don’t know where they are going and don’t want to know! Accordingly, they go where they are led! And you are trying to tear them out of the orderly ranks of the slaves and impose on them the responsibility of themselves to be responsible for their affairs, and not to answer those who lead them! You what? Do you think that such people want to be responsible for their affairs before their conscience? Ha! You are naive like a child! drinks
  24. Quote: Alexander Ra
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
    The "historical homeland" of the nationalists is one - "Nazism" ...
    Like all nationalists you do not shine ...

    Anyone who has not lost national characteristics is a nationalist. All of this is sophistry and demagogy, with the goal of drowning out national identity.
    "The suffix -ist forms nouns with the meaning of a person by belonging to an institution, profession, a certain social direction (signalman, accordionist, Marxist)."

    ***
    Nationalist (polit.).
    Ushakov Dictionary, Dictionary of Synonyms, Practical Guide. M .: Russian language., Historical dictionary of Russian Gallicisms, Dictionary of foreign words of the Russian language
    1. Adherent of nationalism. Belonging to the political party of nationalists.
    2. Supporter, participant in the national movement.
    Z. Nationalist - chauvinist Dictionary of Russian synonyms. nationalist chauvinist Dictionary of synonyms of the Russian language.
    4. An ardent populist; nationalist is the name of many parties in different states that defend the interests of their nationality (sometimes too hard) and often hide under the banner of nationalism the greedy claims of party benefits and gross material calculations ...

    Anyone who believes that only by virtue of the fact that he belongs to a better nation than the rest is a nationalist.
    Everyone oppressing others on a national basis is a Nazi.
    In practice, some do not differ from others.
    Nationalism led to the collapse of Ros. empire and Sov. Union: both states fell apart into "nationalist" apartments with the help of nationalists ..
  25. Quote: Alexander Ra
    Quote: Lieutenant Colonel of the USSRF Air Force in reserve
    now sofa neo-historians who have read neither


    Dear Efim, what is the cause of irritable skepticism? Snobbery? All of us are “advanced” in information to varying degrees, please share it, all “wondrous” ones will be grateful. By the way, I would advise everyone irritable to be more attentive to their liver.

    ***
    Dear Sir Alexander!
    At first, in the mercy of God and in my sinful prayers and the preservation of the right-wing prince Alexander Nevskago for many years.
    The reason is that what kind of privation is such an rejection. Nothing more.
    Adherence to "neo-history", "neo-paganism", "Arianism", "zadornovschina", etc. characterizes people as either naive or narrow-minded.
    I have already cited to you not quite decent and not complete good words from the root of the RA, which you defended.
    This caused you severe irritation. so that not one thinks about the liver ...
    Fall on the ground with your feet in mercy, bow down to worship,
    Yefim
  26. -1
    1 August 2019 02: 37
    Here, someone is, here someone remembers for my country, here someone remembers for my History !!!
  27. Quote: tihonmarine
    You would have read real historians first ..
    ..
    We got it all. Thank.

    I understand you too. You didn’t read the real ones, but you didn’t read the fake ones, but you listened. You are welcome.
  28. -1
    2 August 2019 01: 17
    In-in, let's - DNA, Slavs ... And meanwhile, our true stolen story is era of the Moscow state, Muscovy. Who does not believe, let him try to remember something from his realities: any thoughts, opinions. What did people write, how did they live? We know about that era as much as modern Latin Americans about pre-Columbian civilizations. But this was already approaching the Enlightenment! Moreover, it is from the formation of sovereign Muscovy that one can count the Great Russian nation as a combination of an ethnos with a state. And we have erased the memory of our formation in a villainous way!
    But instead - the Slavs, DNA ... Eat!
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    19 September 2019 20: 01
    "Memory" V. Chivilikhin there is all about Russia and about Ruriks and Varangians. Several thousand years of history have been stolen from us.