Do Russians go or do Russians leave? What is worse?

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“Fear your desires! They come true! ”(F. Nietzsche)


I was encouraged to speak on this topic with conversations with one of our readers from Germany, the most perfect German, with whom I had such friendly and rather mutually beneficial communication. I learned a lot in this sense.





In our last conversation, we walked very well over the mentality of Germans and Russians, and then somehow all of a sudden everything turned into this eternal “Russians are coming!”

“Russians are coming!” - how many years did these people scare them? Lot. From the heart scared, so I say. Yes, we gave this so many reasons that it was impossible not to be afraid. But the lion's share still falls on the works of that side.

And where, in fact, are the Russians going? For what purpose? And approximately what composition?

Already, I repeatedly exaggerated the idea that if the Battle Regulations of the ground forces were applied to any life situation, everything would fall into place, then any life situation would be resolved.

Including the Russians, who are going somewhere.



But even without the use of the charter, it became clear long ago that there was nothing terrible about a cry. Not that the Russians are not going anywhere, no, this is a completely different matter.

Russian do not go. More precisely, they go, but not in the way that some screamers would like.

Russians are leaving.

Yes, everything does not go as it did before. But what to do, times change, strategy and tactics too. Previously, the Russians left Germany, Hungary, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan and left behind them roads, airfields, hospitals and houses.

It was? It was. That is how the “Russian invaders” left, leaving the formerly occupied infrastructure, some of which are used today.

Now everything is different. Russians leave, leaving behind themselves ruin and collapse.

It is clear that not immediately. It is clear that no one explodes or destroys anything. But what is happening can in no way be called creation.

Russians left the Baltics.

Ports are dying, entire industries, instrument-making, automotive industry have died, and Russian-built railways are beginning to bend down.

We watched, choking with laughter, as the proud and independent Lithuanians decided to leave the occupying energy system, which included the Baltic republics, Belarus and Russia. The so-called EK BRELL. Power supply stabilization system.

Send out So what?

And nothing.

We came across an increase in electricity imports from wherever possible, laid a cable from Sweden, which can cover as much as 6% of total Lithuanian consumption, Estonians quickly launched a smoke lamp on slate (oh yes, there is so much respect for the environment!) In Auvere, and everyone pays full weight dollars and euros to Comrade Lukashenko for the energy produced by the Belarusian NPP.

Nobody in the proud Baltic countries is embarrassed that the Russians built it, the Russians serve and charge it. Especially not embarrassing the Latvians, they are generally sad with electricity.

But the Russian spirit does not smell. It smells like burnt shale and big payouts, because Tseevrop, in the sense of the EU, friendly made carbon dioxide emissions to its new members three times more expensive.

The Russians left Kazakhstan. Yes, here it is worth noting such a thing: perhaps the Kazakhs turned out to be the wisest people, having understood what it all smells like. And they rushed to develop laws that, if they did not solve the situation, then at least smooth it out.

And therefore in Kazakhstan everything is more or less tolerated, although, of course, Russian specialists have lost a lot, and it’s not necessary to say that “the detachment did not notice the loss of a fighter”. I will not believe. There were losses. It is enough to look at Baikonur, not the Russian part, but the Kazakh part. Well, much more.

Although, I repeat, the losses in the specialists in Kazakhstan were perhaps the most meager. If you do not talk about Belarus. But Belarus is still a somewhat different alignment.

Five years ago, Russians rushed from Ukraine. Impressed by the innovations. And Russia as a state is also somehow sideways and rolled aside. And then all the sadness began.

Declaring Russia an enemy, in Ukraine they relied too much on handouts from the West. What is there today about payments? Yes, full order. On the verge of collapse.

Gas transit, Russian gas in itself, gasoline, diesel fuel ... No, transit, of course, is the one still a pinch below the belt, to the crack of independence, because millions of dollars are millions of dollars. And from them, from millions, usually billions are added.

But the rest is not chic. Gas is Russian, albeit ostensibly “by reverse” from Europe. Gasoline is Russian, albeit from Belorussia. Although stop, with gasoline is also now not easy. Gasoline for Belarus has been reduced, and those crumbs that remain after the saturation of the Belarusian market go to Ukraine. Well, that makes sense. They sell surplus, and if they are not, then there is no court.

In general, of course, the figure is 15%, that is, the level of own production from Ukraine’s own production ... well, let's not talk about sad things.

Speaking of the fact that it is very difficult to communicate with us, I understand this and do not deceive myself. This is what at the state level, and what is personal. Very difficult, I agree. Such a mentality and everything else.

However, the complexity of communication is the complexity of communication. What about the result?

The fashion trend "give a kick to this Russian" has passed. It turned out that the Russians may well not wait for this colorful moment.

And then it begins. Again the heart-rending cry "Russians are leaving!" And vague gestures.

Why vague? And simply because no one thought of what to do when the Russians seem to be going somewhere, so now they don’t adequately perceive the opposite situation when the Russians go somewhere.

The PACE was not invented, by the way, how to react. And now the European Assembly is a kind of a courtyard with the Maidan, where in a day someone yells that he will leave. Well, crowds to and fro staggering ...

And what, Russians - the cornerstone of this?

Yes, why not? Well, not the pillar of the pillars of world order, but the stone at the bottom is exactly

Here are examples of the departure of Russians from a whole series of countries. Romania, Moldova, GDR, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Armenia, Georgia. And where, forgive, prosperity and prosperity?

Say, former GDR, everything is fine there? In united Germany? Well, the fact that Germany was united is undoubtedly good. However, so much has already been written about the difference between Wessi and Aussie, which I don’t want to repeat.

But the fact that for “that” the union is grateful mainly for the “weight” is, as it were, a fact of those who do not dispute.

So - very conditional. With a bunch of nuances.

But if you take all the former ensemble - perhaps, few people stand in the way of prosperity, brilliance and beauty. Yes, Azerbaijan is more or less all good, and all right. The rest of the “free” ones — well, forgive me, but I don’t see any welfare there. Crowds of Russians do not break there on the principle of fish, looking for where it is deeper and more satisfying.

So it is clear that the Russians are again to blame for everything. First because they came, then because they left. But after all, basically everyone wanted freedom from Russians. What is the problem?

The problem is that, as one of the greatest philosophers in the world said stories, Friedrich Nietzsche, "Fear your desires, they come true."

Nietzsche was very unlucky with fans, fans and followers. But he said, albeit meaning completely different, great.

So it happened. Wishes came true. The Russians are gone, but for some reason the golden age did not come.

Apparently, not in the Russian business?

A good anecdote was about hell and paradise, the meaning of which was reduced to the triumph of agitation over common sense. Ukrainians really confused tourism and emigration, and with them Moldovans. And now, for a couple, both countries with enormous potential (well, Moldova is not with huge) are territories torn by civil war, dreaming of becoming the backyard of Europe.

Are we guilty again? Well, naturally.

This is not to say that we are not losing anything. Losing, how much more losing. Especially in terms of Ukraine. Cheeks are falling more and more as the program of the so-called “import substitution” is blown away, even though they are still trying to fool us. But this does not solve problems.

It is easier for us. We can afford to leave.

Yes, lock yourself behind the next “iron curtain”. Do not see the triumph of Euromobilia, tolerance and other homotheminisms.

This TAM is not understood yet. Can not understand.

Russians will never come. We just don't need it. All these horror stories about the hordes of Russians in Paris (yes, how many people can walk there, once a century, and so on), how long can this Berlin be taken ...

This is a fairy tale. In which many believe. How many people in Germany remember very badly for some reason, for example, in 1955, the Russians performed a miracle: ten years after the war they not only returned 1240 paintings to the defeated enemies, including Titian, Rubens, Rembrandt, Raphael, Durer, Vermeer, but restored their. Themselves. And more 3000 jewelry. Rubies, emeralds, diamonds, pearls, sapphires, kilos of gold and silver.

And the former fraulein, not burdened by good manners in his youth, argues in front of cameras that the Russians have not grown to European values, and they must be punished with sanctions. Yes, I am about Mrs. Merkel.

Of course, we are barbarians. Just because we can forgive. Therefore, Klinger's works are in the Leipzig gallery that we restored, which, if anything, turned the dust into allies. Like Dresden.

You know, with such layouts, sometimes you sometimes think that turning around and slamming the door is not a bad option.

And let them shake from the cry "The Russians are leaving!" It is possible that this would be better. First of all for Russians. How the Russians will survive the world ... well, it would be worth trying to see it.

Necessary afterword. Building an empire - alas, let's be honest with ourselves, we can't do it. And is it necessary? Wouldn't it be easier to stop integrating this active in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and watch ... its agony?
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  1. +4
    26 July 2019 15: 13
    Isn’t it easier to stop such an active integration in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and observe ... its agony?


    No way - your elites are integrated into the Western world .... laughing
    1. +28
      26 July 2019 15: 33
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      No way - your elites are integrated into the Western world .... laughing
      the elites then integrate, only the earth resists, especially the Kemsk parish ... laughing
      1. +27
        26 July 2019 15: 54
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        No way - your elites are integrated into the Western world ....

        It's right! But at the same time, one very important circumstance should be noted that these very so-called. Russian "elites" are basically, in one way or another, people of ethnically non-Russian nationality with 2, 3 or more citizenships, whom Putin himself once called that they are "citizens of the world." And indeed, the pedigree of any of them not dig - there is a Russian, that the cat cried, and they are still proud of it!

        And the reasons for this phenomenon stretch right from the time of Vel. Oct social. 1917 revolution of the year. Then - in the 1917 year - in RI, along with the socialist revolution in the country, a geopolitical nationalist revolution took place. Namely.
        Russia from a historically state of the primordially Russian people, which took under its protection and patronage other small nations, has turned into a state of national minorities. The Russian people were removed from the state power in the country by the Bolsheviks - by the way, at the request of Lenin himself. But Stalin was just against such a Leninist chauvinistic policy of small nations in the FIRST in the world socialist multinational state.
        1. GAF
          +7
          27 July 2019 15: 10
          Quote: Tatiana
          ... at the request of Lenin himself. But Stalin was just against such a Leninist ...

          Yes, there was such a thing, Ilyich wrote articles about the great-power chauvinism of the Russians, calling them Derzhimord, with the ensuing consequences. Only now Stalin brushed the "Leninist guard", and in 1945 he thanked the Russian people for their decisive contribution to the Victory.
      2. +4
        26 July 2019 16: 31
        Quote: sabakina
        especially Kemsk parish

        Well yes. When even the legendary thief stood up for the Russian land. wassat
      3. +7
        26 July 2019 18: 38
        Quote: sabakina
        the elites then integrate, only the earth resists, especially the Kemsk parish ...

        Here is a very important MEMORY question. If we forget our story and spit on our roots, then the price will be penniless for us, with or without elites.
        1. +1
          26 July 2019 19: 22
          If we forget our story and spit on our roots,
          So they forgot and spat. What does the hanged Mausoleum, the striped ribbons named after Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov, the tricolor and regiment have to do with that war? And the elitka, watching as the young people ate and did not frown, and the ribbons and the regiment, is spinning with might and main the new holiday on June 22nd. Tell me, what day will you remember when you fell ill or when you recovered?
          1. +16
            26 July 2019 19: 35
            Quote: Gardamir
            What does the hanged Mausoleum, the striped ribbons named after Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov, the tricolor and regiment have to do with that war?

            Do not distort. The immortal regiment, which you listed with a comma, like by chance, is directly related to our relatively fresh history that young people are beginning to forget. As far as the St. George ribbon, this is a sign of the Russian soldier’s valor not only during the Second World War. Well, the Mausoleum ... and what the Peruvians or Mexicans do not raze the pyramids of the Incas or the Aztecs with the earth? They sacrificed people there. Everything is our story. Is it good or bad, but OUR.
            1. -7
              26 July 2019 20: 16
              Do not distort.
              When do you write. then re-read? People who won that war have the right to celebrate as they want. In memory of them, we have no right to invent either regiments or other remodels.
              not only during WWII
              Tell me about the St. George cavaliers of the Great Patriotic War.
              About the Mausoleum, you spoke out as if you were a supporter of demolition. And if you are so supposedly for tradition, return the Order of the Red Star!
              1. +7
                26 July 2019 20: 25
                Quote: Gardamir
                In memory of them, we have no right to invent either regiments or other remodels.

                That is, in your opinion, if people in this way want to honor their old people, is that YOU CANNOT? Do you yourself re-read the heresy that you are scribbling here? And then let’s also cancel the reconstruction of battles, since we don’t have the right to remember and express it this way? It was because of people like you that there was a youth who thinks that the Reich pitched mattresses, and the USSR, so, stood on the hook and smoked.
                Quote: Gardamir
                About the Mausoleum, you spoke out as if you were a supporter of demolition.

                Distort again ... I said ALL THIS IS OUR HISTORY. Is it good to you or bad. And when they selectively erase something from it (or try), this is tantamount to betrayal. Was Lenin? Was. Was Rasputin? Was the Tsar's family shot and repressed? There were! . THIS IS ALL OUR STORY. No need to distort, castrate, gloss over or selectively edit it.
                1. -8
                  26 July 2019 22: 51
                  heresy,
                  It raced! do not spit on the monitor ...
                2. +10
                  27 July 2019 04: 19
                  Was the king's family shot?
                  There was a shooting of the family of Mr. Romanov, who abdicated. And such a family was not the only one in those dashing years.
                3. 0
                  15 August 2019 09: 25
                  How much can we live only in the memory of our ancestors? Each generation requires its own sacrifice and what can we boast of?
              2. +5
                26 July 2019 20: 39
                Quote: Gardamir
                People who won that war have the right to celebrate, as they themselves want

                Unfortunately, there are almost no people left ...

                Quote: Gardamir
                We in memory of them have no right to invent either regiments or other remodels

                What personally did the Immortal Regiment not please you? Or did you accidentally stick it in your little list, like - maybe, a ride?

                So - not a ride.
                1. -10
                  26 July 2019 22: 47
                  What personally did the Immortal Regiment not please you?
                  Yes, because it will be so.
                  imagine May 9th. on the site of the Mausoleum there are benches in several rows. Here, on the Festive Square, a black and orange banner of victory is being carried out. Behind him, under the tricolor, are the portrait of St. Nicholas the Holy Liberator. And in the evening the penitent regiment ...
                  And all this has nothing to do with the memory of the soldiers of the liberators.
                  1. +4
                    27 July 2019 02: 18
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    What personally did the Immortal Regiment not please you?
                    Yes, because it will be so.
                    imagine May 9th. on the site of the Mausoleum there are benches in several rows. Here, on the Festive Square, a black and orange banner of victory is being carried out. Behind him, under the tricolor, are the portrait of St. Nicholas the Holy Liberator. And in the evening the penitent regiment ...
                    And all this has nothing to do with the memory of the soldiers of the liberators.

                    I advise you to drink galloperidol, 3 times a day, before eating. Delusions and visions must recede. wassat
                    1. 0
                      15 August 2019 09: 28
                      And why no one in the Immortal regiment in the forefront carries a portrait of Generalissimo Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich with whose name grandfathers went on the attack and died in the trenches? and not in the forefront of the portrait of Marshal Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich?
                      1. +1
                        16 August 2019 14: 00
                        Quote: Rey_ka
                        And why no one in the Immortal regiment in the forefront carries a portrait of Generalissimo Stalin Joseph Vissarionovich with whose name grandfathers went on the attack and died in the trenches? and not in the forefront of the portrait of Marshal Beria Lavrenty Pavlovich?

                        Probably because these people have no relatives in Russia. You probably don’t know, but in the Immortal Regiment are citizens with portraits their relatives - WWII veterans.
                        PS: Poklonskaya and Nikolai The Last - an exception to the rule, and it’s extremely inappropriate.
                  2. -2
                    27 July 2019 15: 36
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    all this has nothing to do with the memory of the soldiers of the liberators

                    To reality, too. And your, excuse me, conjectures - these are just your problems.

                    Quote: Gardamir
                    in the evening the penitent regiment ..

                    What-what, damn it, regiment ?? !! fool negative
                2. +1
                  27 July 2019 08: 11
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  Quote: Gardamir
                  People who won that war have the right to celebrate, as they themselves want
                  Unfortunately, there are almost no people left ...
                  In addition, the parade on May 9 has not been canceled. But the essence of all-proponents, which your opponent may belong to, is parasitism on the deepest social feelings of people: for the sake of political ambitions - theirs or their employers - they will always pour dirt on what is dear and sacred to most readers.
              3. +6
                27 July 2019 02: 15
                Quote: Gardamir
                In memory of them, we have no right to invent either regiments or other remodels.

                And who deprived us of this right? Are you not? I have the right to honor the memory of my ancestors as I see fit, and your "especially valuable" opinion on this matter is not even advisory.
                Quote: Gardamir
                Tell me about the St. George cavaliers of the Great Patriotic War.

                Can tell you about the Knights of the Order of Glory, or "For Victory over Germany", in the Statutes of these awards, the St. George ribbon is just present, though it is called "Guards". Well, the Tricolor, you will probably be surprised, is the state flag of the Russian Federation - the legal successor of the USSR.
                1. -3
                  27 July 2019 15: 20
                  And who deprived us of this right?
                  the right to rewrite history?
                  1. -1
                    31 July 2019 18: 28
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    And who deprived us of this right?
                    the right to rewrite history?

                    Where did you see the rewriting of history?
            2. 0
              22 November 2019 18: 12
              In the mausoleum lies the main Russophobe and the culprit of all subsequent troubles "with" and "in" Russia. It is not clear why this is so much honor and attention, even though it is history. In addition, at that time he was by no means the main one, the same Sverdlov was cooler than him, and the coup that is attributed to this frame was also not made by him. and Trotsky. He was like Dimon today. What is the history of the Russian state here, that would spend huge funds and draw attention to its history? Only to make people laugh.
          2. +5
            26 July 2019 20: 45
            Quote: Gardamir
            So they forgot and spat.

            You personally may have forgotten and spat. But besides you, there are another 146 million. Do not try to answer for everyone. Nobody gave you authority for this.
            1. +2
              26 July 2019 22: 49
              You personally
              My father personally was wounded during the liberation of our Soviet city of Zaporozhye. For that battle he was awarded the Red Star.
              1. +5
                27 July 2019 08: 38
                Quote: Gardamir
                My father personally was wounded during the liberation of our Soviet city of Zaporozhye.

                Honor and praise to your father. But this does not characterize you in any way. Kiva has a grandfather of the GSS, and he is a Nazi. Not always between fathers and children is a direct ideological dependence.
                1. 0
                  27 July 2019 15: 18
                  But this does not characterize you in any way.
                  So it's not about me. See how this debate began. The Nexus says you must not forget your story. I almost agree with him, but I have forgotten the story. Did St. George cavaliers under the tricolor liberate the Union. yes tricolor (correctly three-colored) flag of modern Russia. But let's celebrate Victory Day as we celebrated, those who returned from that war. Remaking a holiday for ourselves, we quietly rewrite history.
                  1. +2
                    27 July 2019 15: 36
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    So it's not about me.

                    You expressed confidence that everyone but you
                    So they forgot and spat.

                    And although the words "everyone except you" are not written in your language, the context of your statement reads such a meaning. I answered this statement.
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    but telling a story forgot

                    And I disagree with that. If you want to be correct, express yourself correctly. "Forgotten history" who? How many are there? How significant is it in the population to generalize? By your expression, I also forgot. But you don’t know me, and I didn’t give you the right to make such a statement.
          3. Ren
            0
            30 July 2019 11: 41
            Quote: Gardamir
            striped ribbons named after George Konstantinovich Zhukov

            St. George ribbons to George Konstantinovich Zhukov have nothing to do! hi
        2. -1
          27 July 2019 14: 47
          Yes, the collapse of the centers of national culture (national memory) is a symbol of the collapse of a nation.
      4. +2
        26 July 2019 21: 04
        The elite does not integrate anywhere, but the elite’s money integrates.
      5. 0
        28 July 2019 16: 17
        Quote: sabakina
        only the earth resists

        As VO writes on January 25.01.2018, XNUMX:
        Russians flee from Russia: 15% of citizens are sitting on their suitcases, 15 million will leave in the coming years.
        https://topwar.ru/134543-rossiyane-begut-iz-rossii-15-grazhdan-sidyat-na-chemodanah-15-millionov-uedut-v-blizhayshie-gody.html
        1. 0
          30 July 2019 01: 03
          Quote: naidas
          As VO writes on January 25.01.2018, XNUMX:
          Russians flee from Russia: 15% of citizens are sitting on their suitcases, 15 million will leave in the coming years.

          Millions of Russians are eager for Europe, fleeing the “Kremlin imprisonment”, broadcasts by German public television channel Das Erste. The authoritarian policy of the Kremlin pushes the emigration of Russian people.
          IN?!
    2. +7
      26 July 2019 15: 53
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      elites integrate into the Western world ...

      And remember Badman, how the bourgeoisie threw him at the first skheher! lol
    3. +4
      26 July 2019 17: 10
      No way - your elites integrate into the Western world .... laughing
      ... And you have the same garbage ... laughing
      1. +10
        26 July 2019 17: 12
        And you have the same garbage ...


        Hahaha, niet .... we don’t even eat - we are just ordinary thieves .... laughing

        PS If I accidentally become Pinochet number two, my first contract will be with the Russian Federation. Bulgarian politicians will work hard on the Trans-Siberian Railway until they make it into the 4 series and into two floors ... laughing
        1. +2
          26 July 2019 18: 06
          Remember the film The Magic Voice of Jalsomino ... when the pirates who seized power pass laws and the pirate sounds like a noble man to them? .. That's the same thing I meant by the word "elite" .. but you put it more precisely ... hi laughing
    4. Underwater hunter
      +5
      26 July 2019 19: 04
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      No way - your elites are integrated into the Western world ....


      The Russians do not go anywhere, but quietly die out, and those whom you called Elita, they do not go, they simply flee west, taking with them the wealth stolen in Russia.
      1. +7
        26 July 2019 19: 47
        The Russians do not go anywhere, but quietly die out, and those whom you called Elita, they do not go, they simply flee west, taking with them the wealth stolen in Russia.


        This is bad. But you will come up with something. The Russian world is important, not because you are very unique or brothers or very beautiful or very smart or very different. But because without you there is no Slavic civilization. Huntigton denotes this civilization and it will be bad if you miss it. Then we will lose the battle of civilizations.
        1. Underwater hunter
          0
          26 July 2019 19: 55
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          This is bad. But you will come up with something.

          I’m not inventing anything - this is the official statistics.
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          The Russian world is important, not because you are very unique or brothers or very beautiful or very smart or very different. But because without you there is no Slavic civilization

          You're right ... but Elita doesn't care at all. But it became tight with passionary personalities ..
          1. 0
            27 July 2019 14: 54
            I understand that he did not mean that you were inventing something, but that the Russians would probably come up with something to prevent this from happening in its final form.
            1. Underwater hunter
              -1
              27 July 2019 15: 21
              Quote: TokarevT
              I understand that he did not mean that you were inventing something, but that the Russians would probably come up with something to prevent this from happening in its final form.
              Perhaps, but he did not explain. But I doubt that something can be thought up, this pack, the authorities will not give up just like that.
              1. +1
                27 July 2019 17: 22
                The aliens who had reached the power had never given it up just like that. The support in the struggle for one’s power is its own ideology, both civil and spiritual (religious). Both that and that in Russia today are hostile to all Russian. Spiritual ideology is primary over civil because it forms. We cut out a foreign ideology within ourselves - what it clogged itself will grow: many false (imposed) prohibitions and restrictions will fall, which will open the way for active actions that in the current situation seem unthinkable.
      2. 0
        27 July 2019 16: 14
        Quote: Underwater Hunter
        Russians do not go anywhere, but quietly die out,

        I’m looking even ... You don’t die out ... and so you look, more alive than all the living! lol
        1. Underwater hunter
          -3
          27 July 2019 16: 19
          Quote: Masha
          Quote: Underwater Hunter
          Russians do not go anywhere, but quietly die out,

          I look even ... You do not die out ... more alive than all the living! lol

          Obviously don't look carefully ..
          1. +2
            27 July 2019 16: 24
            Quote: Underwater Hunter
            Obviously don't look carefully ..

            I do not look ... I live! what I wish you !!! and not pour out bile ...
            1. Underwater hunter
              -2
              27 July 2019 16: 38
              Quote: Masha
              and not pour out bile ...

              I say you are not careful, you confuse the statement of fact with the outpouring of bile laughing If you idolize this power, it can mean that either you work for them and get a reward, or ... but I will not question anything else so as not to raise doubt in you .. Your second option sculpts all the minuses, if only you changed your style , and then one troll, another sculpts cons laughing You have a funny community.
              1. 0
                27 July 2019 16: 44
                either you work for them and get a reward, or ...

                I already said, but I repeat ... for the unprofitable ... I live !!!
                either you work and earn money on the other hand ... laughing
                I have one power ... and it must be respected, at least ... the power will change in four years ... who will come ???? then we'll see what you sing ... feel
                is the king bad again? laughing
                1. Underwater hunter
                  -3
                  27 July 2019 16: 49
                  Quote: Masha
                  either you work and earn money on the other hand ...

                  Masha, I know you all by name laughing
                  Quote: Masha
                  I have one power ... and it must be respected,

                  Can you tell me why you need to respect her?

                  Quote: Masha
                  the power will change, then we’ll argue that you will sing ...

                  When this happens, you will obviously sing laughing
                  1. -2
                    27 July 2019 16: 51
                    time will tell ... who shit where ... wink
                    1. Underwater hunter
                      0
                      27 July 2019 16: 55
                      Quote: Masha
                      time will tell ... who shit where ... wink

                      Well, they didn’t even start talking, and you’re already letting feces enter laughing It is difficult to defend your point of view, especially when it is not laughing hi
                      1. -1
                        27 July 2019 17: 15
                        What are you talking about? if you do not understand ... this is an idiom ... laughing
                        with whom, how to communicate? sorry ... you are not interested in me ... therefore, good health! let me take my leave ... love
                      2. Underwater hunter
                        -2
                        27 July 2019 17: 28
                        Quote: Masha
                        What are you talking about? if you do not understand ... this is an idiom ... laughing
                        with whom, how to communicate? sorry ... you are not interested in me ... therefore, good health! let me take my leave ... love

                        Masha, your nickname already says a lot about you .. eh Masha, and you are interesting to me laughing love hi
                      3. +1
                        27 July 2019 17: 52
                        afterword .... Epilogue ... so to speak ...

                        I wish you just ... enjoy life !!! love
                      4. -1
                        27 July 2019 21: 00
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Quote: Masha
                        What are you talking about? if you do not understand ... this is an idiom ... laughing
                        with whom, how to communicate? sorry ... you are not interested in me ... therefore, good health! let me take my leave ... love

                        Masha, your nickname already says a lot about you .. eh Masha, and you are interesting to me laughing love hi

                        Such interest usually horns are missing. laughing
                      5. +1
                        27 July 2019 21: 05
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        and you are interesting to me

                        repeat ???? and formulate your idea?
                      6. -1
                        27 July 2019 21: 03
                        Quote: Masha
                        What are you talking about? if you do not understand ... this is an idiom ... laughing
                        with whom, how to communicate? sorry ... you are not interested in me ... therefore, good health! let me take my leave ... love

                        It is possible from the ring, to accelerate. hi
                      7. 0
                        27 July 2019 21: 09
                        love
                        Vitaly, well, why so immediately? it happens ... misunderstands ... sleeps and everything goes ???? wink
                      8. -1
                        27 July 2019 21: 07
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Quote: Masha
                        time will tell ... who shit where ... wink

                        Well, they didn’t even start talking, and you’re already letting feces enter laughing It is difficult to defend your point of view, especially when it is not laughing hi

                        Well, if you haven’t been smeared, then this does not mean that this fate will pass you by, so there’s more air in the ballasts and immerse yourself with your tube in the environment that you have been allotted for life. wink
                      9. -2
                        27 July 2019 21: 46
                        I'm afraid to imagine ... if it accumulates, and then the ballast blows .... environmental disaster! belay
              2. +1
                27 July 2019 16: 57
                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                one troll, another sculpts cons

                I think I even know who this "one" is wink

                Look:

                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                Russians ... quietly dying out ... I’m not inventing anything - this is the official statistics

                This is not statistics, this is a lie, sorry ... There is no such "statistics".

                Well, and pearls like:

                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                Now, if Rublevka was burning or Sechin’s house, then an emergency would be quickly introduced ..

                Do you really think so? Just like that, and "introduced"? belay

                Well, and who is the troll here? Guess not?
                1. Underwater hunter
                  -2
                  27 July 2019 16: 59
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  I think I even know who this "one" is

                  Here is kitty, the main troll has appeared laughing Kitty, what did you do for the site administration, what did they restore you to? You can not answer laughing
                  1. +1
                    27 July 2019 17: 10
                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    ... the main troll showed up ...

                    Not ... the main one was Svarog, now Sylvester takes off for him ... well, and Stas, with the number of which. But we are not talking about:

                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    Russians ... quietly dying out ... I’m not inventing anything - this is the official statistics

                    This is not statistics, this is a lie, sorry ... There is no such "statistics".

                    In fact, there is something to object? Where is your "statistic that Russians are dying out"?

                    Yes, and about "Sechin's dacha and emergency situations" - explain too, do not be so proud ... otherwise I will think badly of you laughing
                    1. Underwater hunter
                      -2
                      27 July 2019 17: 22
                      Kisa, when I was not experienced and didn’t know much that was happening on the VO site, I argued with you and your colleagues with foam at the mouth laughing But now, I have no desire to prove or explain anything to you, especially to you kitty. Sometimes, when the mood is good, you can talk to you, you are not a stupid person, but when you ask questions, the answer to which is obvious, then it does not look decent for adults, whom we are .. Well, you really haven’t seen didn’t hear about the statistics voiced by your favorite authorities? It was about the current situation with demography. Of course you heard, you know ... so why stupid questions? Roman, troll people who have not been here for a long time, but I've been here for 6 years .. laughing wassat
                      1. 0
                        27 July 2019 17: 40
                        Man, since you're so experienced now, then:

                        1. Throw distort the nickname. I do not like this, and you know it. If desired, I will find a way to let you feel it. So far I just asked. Politely.
                        2. If I asked a question, then I almost know the answer. So: statistics confirming that "Russians are dying out", no. And even there are no prerequisites for that. If you do not know this, you are dumber than I thought. If you know this and knowingly lie - well, this is called trolling. request

                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        It was about the current demographic situation.

                        It gives no reason to say that "Russians are dying out." You twist, buddy.

                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Roman, troll people who haven’t been here for a long time, but I've been here for 6 years..

                        Cool. The troll advises me "who should I troll".

                        Man, I’ll figure it out myself, Mona? With whom should I communicate, and in what vein. BUT, Svarog? wink
                      2. Underwater hunter
                        -2
                        27 July 2019 17: 51
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        It gives no reason to say that "Russians are dying out."

                        Rosstat data. The population decline in the first quarter of 2019 amounted to 140 thousand people, is that what you think? Do you think the population of Russia is growing? Or 140 tons of people, is it not much?
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        If I asked a question, then I almost know the answer. So: there are no statistics confirming that "Russians are dying out". And even there are no prerequisites for that. If you don't know it, you are dumber than I thought

                        Well, there are no comments at all .. See above.

                        And meanwhile:

                        in 1917 (within modern borders) the population of Russia was 91 ml. person

                        in 1959 already 117,2 ml. person

                        in 1991 -148,3 ml. person

                        and then .. we are only dying .. after your reformers have come to power ..
                      3. +3
                        27 July 2019 18: 06
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        and then .. we are only dying out

                        My friend, if you were a serious person, I could tell you a lot. Including for demography.

                        About, for example, that 140 000 is less than 0.1% of the country's population. And about the demographic holes. And the fact that in all developed countries (and the Russian Federation is just such a country) there are completely objective problems with population growth. And much, much more.

                        But, since I know you well, I will not do this. And with your manner of "supplying information" I will, to the best of my ability, butt. Out of duty. Hop? wink
                      4. +3
                        27 July 2019 21: 28
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        It gives no reason to say that "Russians are dying out."

                        That's just why the residents of uncharacteristic appearance are more and more visible on the streets. The column "Nationality" was canceled in vain. Solid Russians. sad
                      5. 0
                        27 July 2019 21: 34
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        But for some reason, there are more and more residents of uncharacteristic appearance on the streets

                        Well, while the Russians are working - these are hanging around the streets)))

                        Vladimir, hi
                      6. +3
                        27 July 2019 21: 46
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Well, while the Russians are working - these are hanging around the streets)))

                        Everyone is hanging around who is not working. I thought, although I won’t see it in the Urals, I went to my brother, figs there. No, that’s how it was easier to count statistics:

                      7. +2
                        27 July 2019 21: 48
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Everyone hangs around who doesn't work

                        And someone here does not understand the jokes ... by the way - the Negro is not a nationality ... this is a state of mind)))
                      8. +3
                        27 July 2019 21: 49
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        a black man is not a nationality ... this is a state of mind

                        Just like Russian. winked
                      9. +3
                        27 July 2019 22: 02
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Just like Russian

                        No, Russian is separate ...
                      10. +1
                        27 July 2019 22: 10
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Russian is separate ...

                        Yeah, most likely all separately. Yesterday at the OVIR they fined a couple thousand rubles for not submitting documents for re-issuing a passport at the right time. The shtob has grown their horns, huge and bushy. am
                      11. Underwater hunter
                        -4
                        27 July 2019 22: 10
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Just like Russian

                        No, Russian is separate ...

                        Roman, yes, you are also a nationalist laughing
                      12. +3
                        27 July 2019 22: 34
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        Just like Russian

                        No, Russian is separate ...

                        Roman, yes, you are also a nationalist laughing

                        Not ... I'm just Russian)))
                      13. +6
                        27 July 2019 21: 59
                        There is a fight in the bus. Whites and blacks are fighting for the best places. Negroes scream that they want to sit in front and near the window. Well, the white ones scream that the place of blacks is in the back of the gallery. The driver got tired of it all, he took the tire bar and said:
                        - So, everything is fast, went out and built!
                        They all went out, lined up, and the Negro alone says:
                        - Here you are also a white racist, you also want to infringe on our rights!
                        And the carrier answers:
                        - You know, I'm not a racist, I'm color blind. You are all green to me. Therefore, silently, one by one, we go into the bus. Dark green - back, light green - forward ... wassat
                      14. +4
                        27 July 2019 22: 35
                        Quote: Masha
                        Dark green - back, light green - forward

                        Jess ... good laughing good

                        Guys, the topic of "flood" has not been canceled yet. Let's run into the same)))
                      15. +3
                        27 July 2019 22: 43
                        Where ours didn’t disappear ??? love
                      16. Underwater hunter
                        -1
                        27 July 2019 22: 09
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Well, while the Russians are working - these are hanging around the streets)))

                        Everyone is hanging around who is not working. I thought, although I won’t see it in the Urals, I went to my brother, figs there. No, that’s how it was easier to count statistics:


                        laughing laughing Oh thank you! to tears! He called his wife and neighing together good laughing Where nationality is black
                      17. 0
                        13 August 2019 14: 17
                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        It gives no reason to say that "Russians are dying out."

                        That's just why the residents of uncharacteristic appearance are more and more visible on the streets. The column "Nationality" was canceled in vain. Solid Russians. sad

                        [B] [/ b]
                        And why then did you vote for such a power, which cannot ensure the priority of indigenous nationality.
                      18. 0
                        13 August 2019 14: 27
                        I voted for Putin only once. And when he covered up the Kadyrovs, he just ruined everything. Remember the amnesty?
                      19. 0
                        15 August 2019 09: 36
                        It may be better if Kadyrov becomes the next president. Hot yes but wisdom typed
              3. +1
                27 July 2019 21: 34
                Quote: Underwater Hunter
                You have a funny community.

                And it’s even funnier for you, Sylvester began to heal the mind of administrators, immediately to zero, after that, as Svarog, to zero, Alton’s colonels, by the way, are banned, now you give Stasik to the mountain. So the gang is on the face, your Tollian is also not discouraged. wink
                1. Underwater hunter
                  -3
                  27 July 2019 21: 48
                  Quote: Rusland
                  And it’s even funnier for you, Sylvester began to heal the mind of administrators, immediately to zero, after that, like Svarog, to zero, Alton to colonels,

                  And you have funnier laughing We don’t have and didn’t have any communities, we supported each other, yes, but we didn’t create orders, we didn’t write silly rules ... the children, by golly, and you can see that by communication .. As for the admins, they always supported your side , you’re more than a hundred times, and they need a rating ... But for almost a year they didn’t appear on the VO and you can immediately see the difference between the commentators of the interesting ones, there are very few left, and every year there are fewer ... Here you take me comments, children's babble, and not a single clever idea was not expressed ... Sorry, trolling and provocations are continuous .. That's where the administrators have to go need to work ..
                  1. +3
                    27 July 2019 22: 01
                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    Rumble, trolling and provocations are continuous ..

                    Vladimir, you just wrote about yourself right now ... forgive my French)))
                    1. Underwater hunter
                      -4
                      27 July 2019 22: 05
                      Well, where did you see this in my comments? Statement of facts, yes, well, I can’t stand it when they scream out of favor.
                      1. +3
                        27 July 2019 22: 21
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Statement of facts, yes

                        You see ... that you, that the other members of your circle, differ, to put it mildly, in a somewhat tendentious presentation of these facts.

                        Not everyone likes it. For example, I absolutely do not like it.

                        And for to breed

                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        Srach, trolling and provocation

                        - you have Stas number plate, Ingvar ... well, and a couple of comrades, of whom I know ...

                        Svarog, do not shoot the office, tie)))
                      2. Underwater hunter
                        -3
                        27 July 2019 22: 30
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Svarog, do not shoot the office, tie)))

                        What you consider to be an office is a coincidence of views on the state of affairs in our country and no more .. Your office and it have been burned for a long time laughing

                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Not everyone likes it. For example, I absolutely do not like it.

                        The truth of life is really not everyone likes, many arrive in dreams and under the influence of foreign propagandists .. For this reason, I can accept your position only in cases where the commentator is lying, but not when the presentation is not pleasant ..
                        For this reason, the important thing is the facts, and not how they are presented, and not like you and your colleagues in the workshop, because in essence you have nothing to object to, but to defend as necessary ... so you express your displeasure laughing
                      3. +2
                        27 July 2019 22: 54
                        Quote: Underwater Hunter
                        The truth of life is really not everyone likes

                        Yes, when it is expressed in Internet memes like "Putin is a liberal, he said himself" and "No money, but you hold on."

                        Unfortunately, as a rule, members of your circle do not have enough further Internet memes of intelligence. When you (they) are caught on frank lies - some start to bustle (yes, like, they misunderstood me), others - to be rude.

                        It’s understandable, you don’t know anything else, but you don’t have enough information, real, to handle, sorry.

                        That's why they don’t like you ... some completely different people who, before speaking what, they’re used to thinking. Life makes, work, social circle ...

                        Okay, Svarog. Over. Everything that we write here now is certainly not in the subject of the article, and therefore - against the Rules)))

                        PS: The minus was not mine, I returned it to you. I hope you are not offended)))
                  2. +2
                    27 July 2019 22: 16
                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    Quote: Rusland
                    And it’s even funnier for you, Sylvester began to heal the mind of administrators, immediately to zero, after that, like Svarog, to zero, Alton to colonels,

                    And you have funnier laughing We don’t have and didn’t have any communities, we supported each other, yes, but we didn’t create orders, we didn’t write silly rules ... the children, by golly, and you can see that by communication .. As for the admins, they always supported your side , you’re more than a hundred times, and they need a rating ... But for almost a year they didn’t appear on the VO and you can immediately see the difference between the commentators of the interesting ones, there are very few left, and every year there are fewer ... Here you take me comments, children's babble, and not a single clever idea was not expressed ... Sorry, trolling and provocations are continuous .. That's where the administrators have to go need to work ..

                    Quote: Underwater Hunter
                    And it’s even funnier in you. We don’t have and didn’t have any communities. We supported each other, yes, but we didn’t create orders, we didn’t write silly rules ... children, by golly,

                    What nonsense, the frightened crow of a bush is afraid. Where did you spend the year? Had a smoke?
                    Well, for the administration everyone is equal here, so don’t have to blow your lips here, be a man and don’t drool.
                2. -2
                  28 July 2019 16: 03
                  Quote: Rusland
                  Sylvester began to treat the mind of administrators

                  admins are also power, violate their rules how to break the laws of power. So eat macaroni and good mood to you.
        2. -5
          27 July 2019 17: 24
          And you, apparently, our juicy giddy, that you feel so good?
          1. +4
            27 July 2019 21: 26
            Quote: TokarevT
            And you, apparently, our juicy giddy, that you feel so good?

            And someone here violates the rules of the site ... and maliciously)))

            Do you really need it, step-mother?
            1. -2
              27 July 2019 23: 25
              Between your can. Why are you getting into our judaicus brawl?
              1. -1
                27 July 2019 23: 28
                Quote: TokarevT
                Why are you getting into our judaicus brawl?

                Rude is bad for karma. You have exhausted your campaign request
                1. -2
                  27 July 2019 23: 44
                  You are illiterate, you do not distinguish a concept, but all the same there with instructions. Although, what to take from a cat? Brunchy chain, otherwise the mermaids get bored.
                  1. +2
                    27 July 2019 23: 48
                    Quote: TokarevT
                    Although, what to take from a cat? Brunchy chain, otherwise the mermaids get bored

                    Not a cat ... Khatul Madan laughing

                    1. -2
                      27 July 2019 23: 55
                      Was he so aggressive and sexually preoccupied? Keep your funny jade, really, better with you, otherwise the mermaids will laugh too. You'd better not think about "mad'an" at all.
          2. +3
            27 July 2019 21: 40
            Quote: TokarevT
            our juicy giddy, that you feel so good?

            that's for me???
            judging by your name ... Samson ... do not shift your belonging to others ...
            I doubt that you live shitty .... laughing laughing laughing
            1. +3
              27 July 2019 22: 00
              Quote: Masha
              judging by your name ... Samson ...

              He destroys the temple on the heels, do not bother ... sad wink
              1. +4
                27 July 2019 22: 07
                God forbid ... everyone is free in his deeds ... will be rewarded to everyone!
              2. +3
                27 July 2019 22: 58
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                He destroys the temple on the heels, do not bother ...

                He is a naughty woman. And for this they usually beat with candlesticks laughing
                1. +3
                  27 July 2019 23: 10
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  He is a naughty woman.

                  He waved his cosmos. I do not understand yet this comrade. From the promised land it seems, but why is he calling our Siberian with bad words? Better not with his candlestick, but with a Demidovsky copper table.
                  1. -3
                    27 July 2019 23: 33
                    How dare you consider the word "Jew girl" bad? Until 1917, this was the title name of the nation. In Polish Israel - Panstvo Zhidovske. You are an ardent anti hibro, my friend.
                    1. +3
                      27 July 2019 23: 46
                      Quote: TokarevT
                      How dare you consider the word "Jew girl" bad? Until 1917, this was the title name of the nation.

                      Is it true? Until the age of 17, documents were already in use. Can you show a document labeled "Jew"? Heh, I wrote another word, of three letters, with "F" begins.
                      1. -3
                        27 July 2019 23: 57
                        So I’m talking about this! And for some reason you found this word to be bad!
                      2. +3
                        28 July 2019 01: 46
                        Quote: TokarevT
                        And for some reason you found this word to be bad!

                        And how is it good? Still unforgettable Nikolai Vasilyevich well described this suit. Ugh! That's why fingers are braided on computer buttons, I feel your fault. feel
                      3. -2
                        28 July 2019 08: 03
                        It is just as it is, neither good nor bad. Well, jude and jude.
                      4. -1
                        28 July 2019 11: 43
                        Sitting at the computer all night, what do you want? Therefore, they are braided.
                      5. -1
                        29 July 2019 12: 17
                        He wrote about the suit, not about the word. You can, for example, write that Muslims are bad, but this does not mean that the very word "Muslim" is the equivalent of an insult.
                      6. +4
                        27 July 2019 23: 58
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        "Jew"? Heh, I wrote another word, of three letters, with "Ж" begins

                        This is a local robot, he observes politeness.

                        For fun - try to post the word "author" through "f". The result is guaranteed to amuse you laughing
                      7. -3
                        28 July 2019 00: 15
                        Dear two-wire cat brain, you are out of topic again. I completely agree with what Mordvin says. Which robot, which politeness? Don't you think that the double-core of a feline brain is not enough to write a comment like that? You time it, think a little, strain both veins and jade and carefully peer into the text and then, I think, at least to some extent you will be able to claim to be "mad'an", otherwise I was in a hurry for you with this status ...
                    2. +1
                      28 July 2019 16: 10
                      Quote: TokarevT
                      How dare you consider the word "Jew girl" bad?

                      For VO the forbidden word, the proof is my four.
                      1. -2
                        28 July 2019 18: 42
                        What is a four?
                      2. +2
                        28 July 2019 19: 59
                        Quote: TokarevT
                        What is a four?

                        violations, see the rules
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        Heh, I wrote another word, of three letters, with "Ж" begins
                        , truth did not write quoted.
                      3. -1
                        29 July 2019 12: 14
                        Does the “four” still hang on you, or was it canceled over time?
                      4. 0
                        29 July 2019 21: 31
                        4 fresh ones for the forbidden, though comets (an article about Lukomsky) that did not meet the opinion of the author (Olennikov) were deleted, and comets with this word hang. According to the rules, numbers accumulate up to 10, then an eternal ban.
                      5. -1
                        29 July 2019 22: 33
                        That is, amnesties and "cancellation of convictions" do not exist?
                      6. 0
                        29 July 2019 22: 44
                        Quote: TokarevT
                        amnesties and "cancellation of criminal record" do not exist?

                        Yes, the severe VO is not provided. Read the rules of the site.

                        For violations - warnings and ban:

                        4 warning - ban for two days;
                        7 warnings - ban on 10 days;
                        9 warnings - ban on 30 days;
                        10 warnings - an eternal ban.
                        For MAT:
                        1 warning for mate in the comments - ban for a week;
                        2 warning for the mat in the comments - ban for two weeks;
                        3 warning for mate in the comments- ban forever.

                        The answer to a moderator or administrator in a rude manner after issuing a warning entails an eternal ban.
                        The term "ban" means that the site can be viewed, but you can not log into your account and leave comments.
                        You can dispute a warning or ban by writing to the site’s administration (it’s useless: the 2nd warning letter was left unanswered, and the 3rd warning in response to a letter to the administrator - now there is no letter from the admin for that comment, or a letter to the admin, well and the answer, too, became empty) if you think that the punishment was applied unfairly. Even after deleting your comment from the site, it remains in the archive, and it can be viewed if desired.
                        Let's respect each other and the site to which you and other readers come to chat and express their thoughts.
                        The site administration reserves the right to delete comments or part of comments if they do not meet these requirements without notifying and explaining the reasons.
                        In the event of a violation by the User of the current legislation of the Russian Federation, the Site Administration will be forced to exercise its right to transfer contact information and any other information to interested parties on the basis of a corresponding request.
                        The Site Administration reserves the right to impose any restrictions on the use of the Site both in general and for individual users without explanation.
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                      7. 0
                        29 July 2019 22: 47
                        OK. Grateful!
            2. -4
              27 July 2019 23: 28
              So I'm not complaining. Under the current regime, we are in full favor. Here, soon 40 000 will arrive in Crimea. Since you live well in Russia, how can you not be ours? Do you serve our people and do not live in poverty from this either?
              1. +3
                27 July 2019 23: 33
                Quote: TokarevT
                Since you live well in Russia, how can you not be ours?

                It’s easy. I am smart and two-core at the same time. Like you, I spit on the rod. Jade. I get it? wink

                Quote: TokarevT
                Under the current regime, we are in full favor

                Talk talk laughing
                1. -3
                  27 July 2019 23: 46
                  Dear cat, you again got into your branch. We communicate with Maryam, we did not call cats. Cat jade is just ridiculous, show it to the mermaids.
      3. 0
        15 August 2019 09: 32
        Maybe it’s right that we are not worthy of extinction, we forgot the memory of our ancestors and Gods and betrayed as much as 2 times in a thousand years!
    5. +1
      26 July 2019 19: 11
      And the dog with them ... The experience of 17 years will be in demand ...
      1. 0
        15 August 2019 09: 40
        it is unlikely that a generation capable of sacrificing itself for the sake of others is a generation capable of sacrificing others for its own sake
    6. 0
      27 July 2019 02: 47
      Do not confuse the elite and the ruling class !!!
  2. +1
    26 July 2019 15: 35
    You have to deal with yourself. And those who want a tailwind without Russians in the back. hi
  3. +1
    26 July 2019 15: 42
    It would be much more interesting to read not Skomorokhov’s essay, but some, say, Juncker.
    Then he would not have a price.
    And so.
    But seriously, our "departure" was at first with flowers and an orchestra, and then already flight.
    And after such humiliation, there is only one thing left - to observe the agony.
    No snot and gloating.
    God gave (the mind), God took (the mind).
    Paragraph and curtain.
    1. +2
      26 July 2019 15: 56
      It would be much more interesting to read not Skomorokhov’s essay, but some, say, Juncker.


      I read Junker's essay. Believe me - Skomorokhov is more interesting, in order. Yes, and Junker now drinks cognac in the calm ... laughing
      1. -1
        26 July 2019 15: 58
        I am in a different sense.
        The fact is that the topic of "repentance" is so special that only those who repent are valuable.
        And those who say that the time will come and have to repent - not really.
        Although....
        There is no prophet in his own country.
        1. +7
          26 July 2019 16: 19
          Maybe enough to repent and sprinkle with ashes all around?
          Why do you absolutely want to make us believe that we have no future?
        2. +2
          26 July 2019 16: 56
          Got it :)
    2. +6
      26 July 2019 16: 19
      Ross in Paris! - where is the torch of vengeance?
      Fall, Gaul, head.
      But what do I see? Ross with a smile of reconciliation
      Coming with olive gold.
      Another war thunder rumbles in the distance
      Moscow in despondency, like the steppe in the nightly darkness,
      And he - does not bring death to the enemy, but salvation

      Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin.
      1. +1
        26 July 2019 19: 16
        Fatty plus .. All the same, Pushkin is our everything. Sometimes it is thought that in vain Joseph Vissarionovich opposed Churchill, who insisted on castration of German men. Let them experiment in their area
    3. 0
      27 July 2019 16: 39
      It would be much more interesting to read not Skomorokhov’s essay, but some, say, Juncker.

      read Denis Davydov!
      For prickly truth, for holy truth,
      For these enemies of kings - despot
      The nobleman condemned: his head was gray
      He ordered the demolition to the scaffold.
      But this managed to achieve
      To appear before the formidable king -
      Not to cry or crash,
      But, if you are not afraid of the truth,
      That to tell a fable.
      The king longs for his words; the philosopher is not afraid
      And with a firm voice he says:
      "The child was once angry,
      Seeing in the mirror his ugly appearance;
      Well, pounding in the mirror, and having fun in my heart,
      What can break a mirror.
      The next morning, walking in the field,
      He saw his vile appearance in the river again.
      How to destroy the river? - It is impossible, and involuntarily
      He had to feed shame and shame.
      Monarch, be ashamed! Really this resemblance
      Well for you? ..
      I am a mirror: break me
      The river is your offspring:
      You will also find yourself in it. "
      The monarch convinced this speech
      What he told him to give life and will ...
      Wait, it's to blame! - ordered to send to Siberia,
      And then this story would be like a fable ...
      love
  4. +2
    26 July 2019 15: 46
    Isn’t it easier to stop such an active integration in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and observe ... its agony?

    We are observing, and the elite has infiltrated the democratic world and does not want to say goodbye to it. Well, for 25 years they gathered their wealth in crumbs and are not able to part with it.
    1. +3
      26 July 2019 16: 20
      Spit on the elite. Saliva.
      Moreover, it is not all the same as yours says.
      1. +5
        26 July 2019 16: 24
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Spit on the elite.

        Today it is she who does it on us. And against the wind, spit and write ...
        The elite determines the price at which you buy bread or gasoline tomorrow, but you do not determine which yacht or plane its member will buy. Somehow it turns out
      2. +4
        26 July 2019 16: 33
        Quote: Thunderbringer
        Spit on the elite. Saliva.
        Moreover, it is not all the same as yours says.

        It will not work to spit on the "Russian. Elite", because the cash "cow" that maintains and feeds them, the "grass grub and mouth" is in Russia, and the fruitful nutritious milk "udder" is in the West.
        1. +3
          26 July 2019 20: 55
          Quote: Tatiana
          Quote: Thunderbringer
          Spit on the elite. Saliva.
          Moreover, it is not all the same as yours says.

          It will not work to spit on the "Russian. Elite", because the cash "cow" that maintains and feeds them, the "grass grub and mouth" is in Russia, and the fruitful nutritious milk "udder" is in the West.

          Forgive me for my French ... But next to the udder there’s also an ass, with all that follows. feel
          1. +4
            26 July 2019 21: 06
            Quote: Clone
            next to the udder, the ass is also located, with all that follows

            EU-ss-sss !!! good laughing good
      3. 0
        26 July 2019 17: 07
        Moreover, it is not all the same as yours says.
        ..Read the whole list, please ...
    2. +4
      26 July 2019 16: 29
      And what kind of Russian elite is being discussed here? The one criminal-thieves who robbed the people and is sitting abroad? Liberal-corrupt and lying under the State Department? “culturally” - a cock, nailing its genitals in the squares and having a weakness for same-sex love? Yes, all our great ancestors turn over in their grave when they see from heaven what kind of cesspool all these "passengers" have turned the country into.
  5. -3
    26 July 2019 16: 06
    I see here talking about the elites ... I suggest recalling the USSR - no elites.
    1. +5
      26 July 2019 16: 20
      Is this such an atomic joke?
      About the lack of elites in the USSR?
    2. -1
      26 July 2019 22: 22
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      I suggest recalling the USSR — no elites.

      These party elites, which, as you said here were not there, surrendered to the USSR with giblets to scolding the Anglo-Saxons.
      1. +1
        27 July 2019 03: 29
        The elite? I don’t know how it is in Moscow and those close to the body, but we didn’t have any elites - just that - a party card on the table and goodbye. Apparently the fish rots from the head.
  6. +2
    26 July 2019 16: 08
    "You know, sometimes you really think that turning around and slamming the door is not a bad option."
    That rare article with which I agree 99%. Thanks to the author.
  7. +4
    26 July 2019 16: 09
    .
    Building an empire - alas, let's be honest with ourselves, we can't do it. And is it necessary? Wouldn't it be easier to stop integrating this active in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and watch ... its agony?
    ... But why not afford it, it is beyond the power of those who built. And those who destroyed it, of course they can’t do it. Break not build, soul does not hurt. Yes and no mind. It’s better to integrate, but to observe the agony of the democratic world it will not work, the claw is stuck .. you won’t get it out, Annushka has already bought butter ... We’ll agonize together, grenades of one system ...
    1. +4
      26 July 2019 16: 20
      Quote: parusnik
      claw bogged down .. don’t get it out

      in existing realities, everyone is tied up ... and there’s no getting away from it ...
    2. +1
      26 July 2019 16: 43
      Quote: parusnik
      We will agonize together, grenades of one system ...

      So maybe it's time to change the "grenades" before it's too late?
      1. -1
        26 July 2019 17: 01
        Late, the guarantor to the people said that there would be no return to the "grenades" of the old system ..
    3. -1
      26 July 2019 23: 25
      The time of Empires has passed and observing the agony as part of what you are like admiring the fire of your neighbors' house without realizing that your house will burn along with them
  8. +2
    26 July 2019 16: 09
    "Russians are coming!"

    you still have to wait ... wait .... just stroke the laces ... Yes
  9. +1
    26 July 2019 16: 10
    Dear Roman, thank you.
  10. -19
    26 July 2019 16: 12
    The West decayed, decayed ... and did not decay, but the eternal Third Reich, oh not ... not .... not that ... but the eternal USSR, was the promised land, but not
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  12. +1
    26 July 2019 16: 30
    Russians will never come. We just don’t need it.
    Something and nothing to add recourse
  13. +3
    26 July 2019 16: 39
    The necessary afterword. Building an empire - alas, we will be honest with ourselves, we cannot afford it. And is it necessary?


    Controversial statement! Small goal - small result! We will not build, everything will rot.
  14. +3
    26 July 2019 17: 14
    All right, just a correction -
    ... for the energy generated by the Belarusian NPP.

    BelAPS planned launch at the end of 2019 request
  15. +13
    26 July 2019 17: 18
    The article as a whole is not bad, but I don’t agree about the Iron Curtain, people should also be thought of. Siberia is actively trading with Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan and even Iraq. And why? Yes, because Moscow has long scored on Siberia, however, as well as on the Far East. People spin as they can. Wind 500 km. a day for cars here is the norm. Now all of Siberia is in forest fires (1 million hectares of forest burns), everything is overcast, the sun has not been visible for 2 weeks. Already a petition with more than 100 thousand signatures was sent, and the president was told that the emergency regime should be introduced, all to no avail. And the silence in the news. Well, yes, we’d better say something in the news about Ukraine.
    1. Underwater hunter
      0
      26 July 2019 19: 11
      Quote: Tomic3
      Already a petition with more than 100 thousand signatures was sent, and the president was told that the emergency regime should be introduced, all to no avail. And the silence in the news. Well, yes, we’d better say something in the news about Ukraine.

      And they are simply not interested in it .. Now, if Rublevka was burning or Sechin’s house, then they would have quickly introduced emergency situations .. Now other concerns, Navalny was raging ..
    2. Underwater hunter
      +1
      26 July 2019 19: 53
      Quote: Tomic3
      Now all of Siberia is in forest fires (1 million hectares of forest burns), everything is overtaken by smog

      I am from Tatarstan, so everything here is in a haze, they say that because of the fires, I can imagine what is going on there .. tin ..
      1. +2
        26 July 2019 21: 12
        Tin is to say the least, today came the news about the mass death of bees, mosquitoes and midges, birds are not visible, the dead are on the roads. Birds just fall dead on the road, the witness himself. Disrupted ecosystem of Siberia. There are simply no words, there are no (censorship) words.
  16. +3
    26 July 2019 17: 37
    Quote: Thunderbringer
    Is this such an atomic joke?
    About the lack of elites in the USSR?

    Not a joke - my father was the head of the expedition, when 6 people were burnt in our beam - no party affiliation helped him.
  17. +1
    26 July 2019 17: 40
    Roman, did any of those in power have asked you what and how to do? Nobody asked us either. So it turns out - the power itself, and we on our own. And so I agree with you to a certain extent.
  18. +3
    26 July 2019 17: 43
    Focus on what became easier with the “departure” from various former “friends”, breathe a sigh of relief and rejoice - a little comfort.
    It turned out that at the same time we were replaced (with the complete passivity of the majority) sewn not just for soap, but for something unspeakably worse. For several centuries, our "elite" through the umbilical cord of Euro-spiritual nourishment and biological nutrition from their people - without obligations - naturally grew into a separate organism, introduced a new type of exchanges in our people, on our territory. The type of exchanges is "parasite-victim". It’s no longer up to the “former”, how to think about yourself, it’s good that they left some, but would not “leave” us altogether, we are both patient and selfless.
  19. +1
    26 July 2019 18: 53
    It’s like in that joke ...
    The Muscovites were always to blame, they told us ... but they knew that we would do it in spite.
    1. 0
      26 July 2019 20: 56
      Ooh! Ka wanted independence.
  20. val
    0
    26 July 2019 19: 45
    Do Russians go or do Russians leave? What is worse?

    Xs worse. Better not to come at all. :-)
  21. +1
    26 July 2019 20: 47
    in Kazakhstan, everything is more or less tolerant, although, of course, many Russian specialists have been lost,

    Almost a complete group of experts from one of the poultry farms moved from Kazakhstan to Rostov.
    1. +4
      26 July 2019 22: 44
      Novomoskovsk, Tula region I know 5 families of good specialists who left to raise the industry of Kazakhstan, and then fled from there when Nazarbayev's shepherds came to power there. Upon their return, everyone found a good job in their specialty and in their professional level. In the anus of all these former 13 (except Belarusians) "brothers". Let them come to Russia only to clean up the shit.
      1. +1
        26 July 2019 23: 38
        Quote: Osya Bender
        all these ex 13

        good negative
  22. 0
    26 July 2019 20: 55
    The Russians are gone, but for some reason the golden age has not come.
    And so everyone hoped that manna from heaven in the equivalent of dollars and euros would pour from the "west" on such clever, charming and dear "brothers" who fled from despots and tyrants with an animal grin in bearskin skins Russians. But the "brothers" promised and, as always, forgot to open their wallets, in the end - a bummer. (you all know perfectly well how to ask relatives for money). And now Malevich's painting "Black Square" the invaders have left, and the brothers suddenly forgot that they are brothers, and then Repin's painting "Were not expected" suddenly surfaced. And now all life is like Oil Painting "Gray Mist". Artist: Knecht Alexander.
  23. 0
    26 July 2019 21: 04
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Isn’t it easier to stop such an active integration in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and observe ... its agony?


    No way - your elites are integrated into the Western world .... laughing

    To elites we, if cho, will give acceleration with a kick!
  24. +1
    26 July 2019 21: 05
    Isn’t it easier to stop such an active integration in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and observe ... its agony?


    The idea, of course, is very attractive and nice, but ... If everything continues to flow as it does today, then, over time (sorry for the tautology), all this will flow to the next Islamic caliphate and, in addition to the south and east, already on our western borders. And we will only have the Arctic, and it's cold there. Do we need it? And if we take into account the annual "livestock" of potential martyrs born to these guys, then - God save the old woman Russia. It is necessary to look for a "golden mean", and who will do it? Something is not visible Stalins, Roosevelts and Churchills in the current segment of history. request
  25. 0
    26 July 2019 21: 07
    Quote: stay sharp
    The West decayed, decayed ... and did not decay, but the eternal Third Reich, oh not ... not .... not that ... but the eternal USSR, was the promised land, but not

    Thinking too simple ....
  26. +2
    26 July 2019 21: 49
    Maybe I missed something? When did you manage to put into operation the Belarusian NPP, the energy of which, according to the author, is now bought by the Baltic States for euros?
  27. -1
    26 July 2019 23: 53
    Of course we are barbarians
    No. Russia is an integral part of European civilization. Eurasianism, despite the apparent short-term advantages in the short term, is the death of Russia
    Yes, lock yourself in the next “Iron Curtain” ... Isn’t it easier to stop integration into this developing democratic world so active over the past 25 years and observe ... its agony
    National Autism has never led to anything good in history.
    Building an empire - alas, we will be honest with ourselves, we can’t afford it
    Yes, that is right. So you need to look for new political integration forms, something that has never happened before in history. Not to be fenced off from Europe, but to offer it an alternative ideologically and politically
    1. 0
      27 July 2019 05: 43
      Quote: Force Multiplier
      Russia is an integral part of European civilization ...
      National Autism has never led to anything good in history.
      Building an empire - ... we cannot afford. So you need to look for new political integration forms ... Do not fence yourself off from Europe, but offer it an ideologically alternative

      To whom do you offer an inferiority complex? Okay with the empire, but without sovereignty (derzhava in translation is a long arm, distant influence) we will be dissolved and disappear, as many Slavs in your beloved Europe were lost, such is our archetype.
      Who do you offer masochism for? How Europe loves us, and we need to offer something to it? Does Europe expect the valenki and savages to teach it?
  28. -1
    27 July 2019 07: 48
    Of the listed republics of the former country, the Russians did not leave: they left the Russians.

    And they left because on the lands of Russia, for which millions of liters of Russian blood were shed, someone created ... "moldavia", "ukraine" and others of estonia. Which, on this basis, squeeze out the Russians

    When there was RUSSIA, there is such not even a trace .

    An example of this is Bessarabia, for the liberation of which tens of thousands of Russians died from the Turks. While it was part of Russia, there were no nationalists, separatists, Russophobia, etc., and no one knew such words.
    Even during the Romanian occupation, the Romanians could not erase the Russian language and the Russians.

    But by the end of the USSR in artificially grown Moldova, Russophobia and nationalism blossomed with magnificent colors .....
  29. 0
    27 July 2019 08: 31
    Quote: R. Skomorokhov
    Isn’t it easier to stop such an active integration in the developing democratic world in the last 25 years and observe ... its agony?

    And neither one nor the other.
    1. Russia is a self-sufficient civilization, different from the civilization of the West and the East.
    2. We cannot ignore the neighbors, just as they are us. Globalization, as the most effective way of managing, is objective. Anyone who ignores it will remain on the sidelines of history and will disappear for centuries.

    "... An analysis of the way of life of individuals and extrapolation of their real capabilities to all of humanity allows us to conclude that humanity can carry at least three types of culture and live for some time in three types of civilization.


    In the development of their genetically determined potential, the least successful were the voluptuous and thoughtlessly staring at the television, which became its slaves, biorobots, whose behavior is programmed by the media. They are capable of nothing but technocratic civilization and culture. This is a modern civilization for us. In it, mankind became the slave of the technology he created, which really turned many people into humanoid robots, since the vast majority of the population reduced themselves to an appendage to their workplace. Work sucks out their vitality, outside of work they have neither the strength nor the ability to be people in the hierarchy of the Universe; as soon as they manage to restore a minimum of strength, then immediately again it is already “necessary” to go to work. And so from day to day, from year to year, from generation to generation - without a gap. This is also confirmed by statistics: in the first years after retirement, many pensioners lose their health dramatically and die simply because they don’t know what to do with themselves if they don’t have to go to work and be an appendage to the workplace there.

    The second possible type is technological. In it, not the technosphere rules over people, but people over the technosphere, and therefore technology serves them, ensuring the satisfaction of their needs. People do not turn themselves into slaves of the technosphere, and antagonisms with nature are eliminated before they become a threat to life.

    The third possible type of civilization is biological... Under him, culture is focused on the development of the genetically determined potential of the capabilities of the human body. Thanks to this, humanity and every person lives in harmony with the biosphere, dispensing with prostheses of the technique we are used to, and nevertheless is neither cattle nor a predator. Porfiry Korneevich Ivanov is one of those who demonstrated the reality of such a possibility even in the conditions of snowy winters in Russia. The Roerichs also described the possibilities of people, amazing for the technocratic civilization, but which many have, who grew up in the information environment of the ancient culture of Tibet ... "
  30. +1
    27 July 2019 10: 02
    Building an empire - alas, we will be honest with ourselves, we cannot afford it.


    it’s unnecessary for us to build anything, we are the empire. We just need to stop the hamster from breaking up and squeezing into the western teremok. Because the fears of Russians in the small living creatures of the European teremk are heated like no other liberals in Russia, who leave no hope of ramming up the Russian bear there.
    But the inhabitants of the teremok see a huge bear in front of them and are well aware that if they tamper with it, then the teremok will come to an end.
    And the Russian bear, even extra-liberal and with their teeth and claws torn out, is unnecessary for them. They have only one blue plan - to impose it both economically and by military means (NATO didn’t just go to the borders of Russia wherever it could) the bear - wait until the bear is thrown away this paw - to share the bear, as they shared the legacy of the USSR, pulling everything away according to their petty European minks.
    So, gentlemen, the Russian liberals are the only place, and then in conditions when the bear will drop its paws, which you can count on in the European tower this is a latrine.

    From the beginning of the 90s, Russia has only been doing what it has been monitoring the West, periodically thinking that the time has come and in the West it has been recognized as their own and squeeze into it. To think about why they didn’t take it, to ratify and sign everything that different WTO, PACE offices let us out of there, OSCE, IMF, GREENPIS, etc. driving Russian citizens into double slavery. And they still can’t take them to the European tower.

    Therefore, the West needs to be observed only militarily (to study military threats from there), confining itself only to economic relations and will focus on Russia's internal development and modernization.
  31. +1
    27 July 2019 11: 05
    In the author zhzhot! You can’t say otherwise! And this is now, when it’s already obvious that the American world is ending, and the Chinese, look that way, is beginning! And what, in this situation, to leave from everywhere and quietly sitting, watching how everything in the geyropa collapses and learn Chinese? This is not in Russian!
    In Russian, this is when Russia builds its own, Russian world, invites its own there: Russian-speaking, co-religionists and sympathizers. And forcibly tightens the necessary participants. It is said by economists that there should be at least 500 million people in the currency zone. This minimum is needed. But to leave, to watch how the rest are tormented, to be afraid to do something in order to put things in order, but they scold us from across the ocean? This is a betrayal! And the author calls for this!
    1. 0
      27 July 2019 11: 44
      Dear Vladimir. I agree, the article is ambiguous. But here is the question, in your opinion, We are betraying. Tell me Who and What? Have we betrayed the ruling elites of the countries or the people living there? People - local people who are "ready to urinate in every bottle of wine" or people - Russians, who are second-class people in the near abroad? What values ​​or what "eternal friendship" do we betray? What was common, except for the power of the CPSU? That the Russians were not killed in Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan was blowing away dust particles from the Russians, who, in the hope of order, remained in Karaganda. I do not see betrayal in relation to fellow-former, sorry for the distant Cuba, they were really betrayed. They really betrayed their own - the Russians who lived in the former republics, in fact, who created these republics. And to watch how the "remaining tormented" (?) Is sometimes useful and necessary in order not to miss the moment of return.
      1. +1
        27 July 2019 13: 17
        Konstantin Ivanovich, the worst betrayal is ourselves! In simple words: if you do not want to feed your army, then those who survive will feed someone else's! If we do not want to build our own world, then we, and our descendants, will live in a strange world and do what we are ordered in Washington or Beijing! What, even worse betrayal can you imagine? And as an excuse for this, you offer the statements of some morons bought for 3 copecks? About urine in wine? Do you think that the abandoned will suffer and change their minds, because it looks so liberal from the west? Most likely, you still have to intervene, but at the stage when everything will be much worse than even now! This is me about what they can arrange a second Chernobyl, and a shootout of all against all! Now procrastination and betrayal are very close!
  32. 0
    27 July 2019 15: 14
    The author repented slightly and led the audience into an existential impasse. Russia affirms its status as a great power, and this requires costs and exertion of all forces. Please note - Ukrainian and Georgian money are more expensive than the ruble. The main reason is that everything grows with them without large labor costs. Russia needs its own grub without importing strangers. Aliens should be an easy addition to the table of a citizen of Russia and everything will fall into place. Both the West and our fifth column will be forced to change their songs about the main thing.
  33. +1
    27 July 2019 20: 08
    I read the comments and liked one topic, how everyone in Russia swallowed these daisies. The Reds were the symbol of the victory of the Patriotic War, and not these tsars during the wars in the Caucasus. At the reward for the feat, this is one thing, and the symbol of victory is ridiculous - it does not fit. So, it’s not the first year at the victory parade with a quiet glanders, they cover the mausoleum in the exact same time, then they’ll take it down. Since you care so much for churches, do not touch the Communists' mausoleum (temple) - which for the time being they are in Russia and not a few, and real symbols of victory. And such an interesting question for Putin, okay, the referendum in Crimea - all pray, what about the referendum on preserving the USSR - where the majority spoke in favor of preserving the USSR)))))
  34. +1
    27 July 2019 20: 49
    Today in "Zen" I saw the same article in "Army Bulletin", is it strange before everything came from VO or did Roman start working on two fronts?
  35. 0
    28 July 2019 11: 09
    Well, I liked the article, for the first time I liked everything from "A" to "Z", and I liked the syllable and the content, especially the content, perhaps because I think so myself.
    1. 0
      28 July 2019 16: 27
      Quote: bratchanin3
      everything from "A" to "Z"

      Well, not everything, it is not written that Russians leave Russia and the consequences about specialists, economics, etc.
      Although they write it in VO (25.01.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX).
  36. 0
    28 July 2019 16: 58
    The mausoleum has such a relation to victory: "For the Motherland, for Lenin, for Stalin." Alternative: "For God, Tsar and Fatherland". Let Lenin lie where he was. The St. George ribbon has nothing to do with Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov. The Order of St. George, with an orange-black ribbon, was still under the kings. Order of Glory, with the same color of the ribbon, already with the councils. And that, and that order in four degrees. The complete covaler was in great respect. Strongly against the destruction of at least one historical monument, no matter how this character will be remembered by us, descendants. And in general, can someone tell me why the current year 2019 in Old Church Slavonic will be 7527? Where is my country's 5000 years of history? I saw numbers on ancient gravestones. Just translated through a search engine to this year
  37. 0
    29 July 2019 08: 53
    The "Elite" betrays the People every time 1941, 1991, etc. For a long time, we have two peoples who have different things.
  38. 0
    29 July 2019 18: 21
    I agree with the author this time in full
  39. 0
    31 July 2019 10: 07
    Well written. Brightly.
    Roman, "hat off." Although I do not agree with your attitude to the situation in Russia, I am pleasantly surprised by the brevity and presentation.
  40. 0
    2 August 2019 20: 00
    I can not agree with the author.
    The Russians didn’t leave nowhere, just remember and fear the Russians.
    They are not afraid for nothing, this fear is already in defective genes in the subcortex, like an unconditioned reflex. From here the antics of the west and east will look all the more extravagant and dumber. The Russians (as all the peoples of Russia are called over the hill) have an imperial mentality, which means they will never stop their movement west and east. Give me the deadline .., everyone will crawl and they will lick their hand.
  41. 0
    30 August 2019 15: 51
    I will take the liberty of arguing with moder:
    1. The exodus of Russians from South Kazakhstan did not differ in any way (and there were cases, even for the worse) from the neighboring "countries".
    Witnesses are all my relatives and wives, even though both of us are non-Russians;
    2. I had to communicate a lot with the Germans before the age of 14 and after. And with the western and eastern.
    At the same time, and with the French, with the British, Americans, etc.
    And I categorically affirm that the Germans are psychologically, mentally closest of all to the Russians from all the "Western" peoples (with the exception of hard work, friendliness and independence, alas ..)
    And their attitude towards the "Russians" (that is, towards everyone who is from the former USSR) was ALWAYS positive and absolutely tolerant, as towards the Magyars, for example, or the Dutch.
    Just people, just neighbors. We sit, we drink beer, we discuss girls, we listen to music, we laugh over jokes about Jews
    Many even liked Putin :)))