Results of the 6 Russian-Belarusian Forum of Regions

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Relationship Development Vector


The 6 Forum of the Regions of Belarus and Russia took place in St. Petersburg. This year, the main theme of the event was designated as “Interregional relations as the basis for the formation of a single cultural and humanitarian space of the peoples of Belarus and Russia”.





Today, the annual forum has become one of the key reasons used by the Russian and Belarusian side to approve decisions determining the future vector of development. Other such “control segments”, to which, as a rule, top management meetings and the adoption of initiatives important for Russian-Belarusian integration, are also the beginning of April (April 2 is the Day of Unity of the Peoples of Russia and Belarus) and December (December 8 is Signing Day) Treaty establishing the Union State).

Last year the forum was held in Mogilev, before that the event was hosted by Moscow, Sochi and twice the capital of the Republic of Belarus. By tradition, the plenary meeting of the event was attended by the presidents of Russia and Belarus.

During the two-day visit, Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko discussed with Vladimir Putin further steps in the development of the Union State: on July 18, the leaders of the two countries held talks in the Tauride Palace, and the day before the presidents visited the Valaam Monastery.

Among the issues discussed by the forum participants and the leaders of the two countries were the formation of a single information space, industrial cooperation, mutual recognition of visas. According to the declared key topic of the forum, the priority for discussions was the development of the social and humanitarian sphere: unification of the rules for admission to higher educational institutions, elaboration of a mechanism for joint preparation of Russian and Belarusian athletes for the Olympics, and a number of other issues.

Locomotives integration


It should be noted that humanitarian cooperation is becoming one of the key areas of cooperation, which was announced by the Russian and Belarusian presidents even during the meeting in Sochi (February 15 – 17). This trend has its own explanation. The preservation of controversial issues in economics and politics in Minsk and Moscow leads to the fact that social and humanitarian cooperation is considered as the most promising area for the further integration of the two states.

In addition to the intentions to use social and humanitarian interaction as a “locomotive” of integration, the past forum also aroused interest in other details.

As some experts wrote, the leaders of the two countries held an informal meeting at the Valaam Monastery with their own logic. Against the background of the church schism in Ukraine, the arrival of Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko to Valaam was a demonstration that Russia and Belarus continue to act as guardians of Orthodoxy and opponents of projects aimed at weakening culturalhistorical ties of Slavic peoples.

Also for the first time in six years, the Forum of Regions was held in St. Petersburg. Some representatives of the Russian and Belarusian leadership have repeatedly stated that the city on the Neva has great potential to become the administrative center of the Union State. Earlier, commenting on the possibility of introducing a single currency, the President of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, stated that if this initiative is implemented, the issuing center should be made in St. Petersburg. “The birthplace of the President of Russia, my favorite city is Leningrad, St. Petersburg now. Let it be there, ”the Belarusian leader said.
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  1. +5
    20 July 2019 15: 09
    Results of the 6 Russian-Belarusian Forum of Regions
    Gathered, talked a lot, dispersed ... Budget mastered.
    Against the background of the church schism in Ukraine, the arrival of Vladimir Putin and Alexander Lukashenko to Valaam was a demonstration of the fact that Russia and Belarus continue to act as guardians of Orthodoxy and opponents of projects aimed at weakening the cultural and historical ties of the Slavic peoples.
    Nevertheless, these ties are weakening and neither side is taking steps to prevent this ... Unfortunately
    1. +7
      20 July 2019 20: 02
      Nevertheless, these ties are weakening and neither side is taking steps to prevent this ...

      I don't even know how to start my answer. Probably, maybe I'll start with the main thing, maybe then I'll jump on the "topic" like a flea from dichlorvos.
      What Belarus does not want from what Russia has. She does not want oligarchy. When will they begin to rip off the country for "tasty nishtyaks", and this is exactly what awaits the union state at the current stage. Our "feeding feeders" will quickly redeem everything that is in the Republic and "put under the knife" due to their lack of understanding of HOW to manage everything.
      What the ruling elite of the Russian Federation and the United Russia does not want. It is exactly the Batka's approach to the issues of "Deribas" industry.
      That's all. IMHO.
      1. +2
        20 July 2019 21: 09
        Tell me, what large enterprises are not there with Russian capital? In terms of civil society, the states are no different. For me you are wrong.
        1. +2
          20 July 2019 21: 15
          Tell me, what large enterprises are not there with Russian capital?

          You know, maybe all the enterprises there with Russian capital, but the whole question is that they belong there to the state. There is no such thing as an "effective manager", i.e. it is, of course, there, but it does not put a journalist in charge of space.
          1. +3
            20 July 2019 21: 20
            Believe me, everything is the same as ours! I do not want to upset you, but somehow childishly such comments regarding Belarus. I wrote a little more below, but there is no point in writing a lot on this issue. As soon as I see the word oligarchs, I immediately fall silent ....
            1. +4
              20 July 2019 21: 33
              I have been and still am in Belarus quite often, but that "guano" that we do not see in Russia
            2. +3
              21 July 2019 14: 00
              Exactly, there is nothing special about the standard of living in Belarus that differs from the Russian one !!! But it should be different !!! After all, Belarus is a small and very poor country, while Russia is large and very rich, and its people live in places worse than in impoverished Belarus. This speaks of the quality of government in the country. It is immediately clear where the power is for the people, and where for the oligarchy and the bureaucracy that has grown together with it ... And from the fact that you shut up at the word "Oligarchs", the problem of wild social injustice, the problem of poverty of people working a full month, will not go away .. ...
              1. +1
                21 July 2019 14: 06
                Quote: Greg Miller
                NOTHING a special standard of living in Belarus does not differ from the Russian !!! But it should be different !!! After all, Belarus is a small and very poor country

                How much budget income do you have there, like $ 10 lard, did you write just now?

                You included in these 10 4.5 (lard) hidden grants from the Russian Federation, or not?

                Quote: Greg Miller
                It’s immediately clear where power is for the people, and where for the oligarchy and the bureaucracy that has grown together ...

                Yeah, yep ... there are many of you here - agitators for all the good and against all the bad Yes
                1. 0
                  21 July 2019 14: 12
                  You know, Ukraine has "milked" Russia in a much larger volume than Belarus. But at the same time, the common people there were and remain beggars to this day. Although Ukraine itself is the richest land ... This all speaks of the quality of power, the quality of government in Russia, Belarus and Ukraine ... Well, and that the presence of an oligarchy in the country "does not affect anything" in the lives of most citizens. ..
                  1. +2
                    21 July 2019 14: 40
                    Quote: Greg Miller
                    Greg Miller

                    Sorry, but my question was

                    You included in these 10 4.5 (lard) hidden grants from the Russian Federation, or not?

                    You somehow preferred not to answer, but immediately dragged Ukraine for some reason ... request
                    1. 0
                      21 July 2019 14: 53
                      I do not form the revenue side of the Belarusian budget. 10 billion, this figure is from the website of the Ministry of Statistics of Belarus. But you did want another. You had to show me that all the successes of Belarus were solely due to the hidden subsidies from Russia. Believe me, I know about these hidden subsidies. But just believe me, these hidden subsidies in Belarus would have been no use if they had been plundered in the same way as similar Russian subsidies allocated by Russia to Ukraine. This once again underlines the quality of governance in Belarus.
                      1. -2
                        21 July 2019 15: 52
                        Quote: Greg Miller
                        This once again underlines the quality of management in Belarus

                        Compared to Ukraine, certainly. Compared to the Russian Federation, there is a big question: so who is “giving subsidies” to whom: Belarus is the Russian Federation or vice versa? wink
                      2. 0
                        21 July 2019 20: 22
                        Cat, and you just troll.
                        Have you been to Belarus yourself? No? Then just recommend you shut up a bit.
            3. 0
              22 July 2019 06: 27
              I don’t believe it. For I do not get information about Belarus from “our” media, but first-hand, and I see it myself. Since I visit it almost every year.
      2. +2
        20 July 2019 21: 33
        What Belarus does not want from what is in the Russian Federation. She does not want an oligarchy.


        Do you want to say that Belarus has wonderful right capitalism, but bad and wrong in Russia? laughing It's funny. There are no trade unions, no strikes, no united "middle" class either there or there.
        But there is this - one national oligarchic elite does not want to lie under the other. Tales about state-owned enterprises for children, Gazprom is also "state". wink But who decides how to "milk" him and divide the income?
      3. -1
        21 July 2019 13: 53
        Only capable LEADERS should and can develop the economy, and not "labor collectives". In Belarus, the "leaders" were equated with "oligarchs" and they frighten the naive with them. In Russia, this disease also exists, but somewhat less pronounced.
        Honest citizens should open their eyes wider to a sober head and evaluate what else is "tasty" left in the country? From our distance, you can see a broken trough.
      4. 0
        24 July 2019 12: 29
        It must be understood that in Belarus there is no oligarchy and "deriban", are you our naive?
    2. +1
      20 July 2019 20: 06
      The integration time is lost, Chubais and Yumashev did not allow us to unite in 1996, and now it’s all a waste of time for empty talk ...
      1. +5
        21 July 2019 12: 55
        Convenient time is lost.
        This is yes.
        In general, it's never too late.
        After how many years did Germany unite?
        Need a will and desire.
        1. 0
          21 July 2019 14: 05
          Quote: demo
          Convenient time is lost.
          This is yes.
          In general, it's never too late.
          After how many years did Germany unite?
          Need a will and desire.

          Unification today is possible only under one condition - the standard of living of ordinary people in Russia should be many times higher than the Belarusian ... Otherwise, unification on Russian conditions will not, and the ruling class of the oligarchy and bureaucracy will not allow us to unite on Belarusian conditions.
          1. 0
            21 July 2019 14: 25
            Yes..........
            Your introductory for us is not very ...........
            Wait and see.
  2. 0
    20 July 2019 15: 18
    Let us hope that the controversial issues will be resolved by the 20th anniversary of the Treaty.
  3. -3
    20 July 2019 15: 29
    And is Lukashenko drowning for Orthodoxy?
    1. +6
      20 July 2019 17: 06
      Quote: Sheptun
      And is Lukashenko drowning for Orthodoxy?

      In involvement in Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Judaism has not yet been noticed, in pagan incantations and other rites, too, did not participate.
      1. +2
        21 July 2019 09: 32
        This is what they write ....

        Those who follow Belarus are familiar with “activists” and the media (acting with the full permission and assistance of the authorities), which carry out systemic campaigns against Orthodoxy; a campaign for the protrusion of churches, which are served as the only historically Belarusian religious monuments, and so on.

        Lukashenko may be a superstitious atheist, but he (and those who stand behind him) understand the importance of the cultural aspect of religion. The transition to uniatism and Catholicism is not a consequence of Lukashenko’s loyalty to these churches, but an important part of the de-Russification policy. The ultimate goal of the campaign is the full cultural autonomy of Belarus, which includes, of course, religion (a decrease in the share of Orthodoxy by an order of magnitude, its own Uniate church).
        1. +3
          21 July 2019 15: 24
          The city of Mazyr, Gomel region. In recent years, only Orthodox churches have been opened. Catholics have one temple, a former historical building of a Catholic (I don’t remember exactly which) monastery. Protestants - one temple, newly built. Sectarians close, Baptists seem to hold on. Judaists, no Muslims.
    2. +1
      21 July 2019 12: 57
      Did you also notice that Old Man was not baptized in the Church?
      At least not shown in the video series.
      Maybe he doesn’t want to upset his radicals, or maybe really not ours?
  4. +8
    20 July 2019 15: 54
    Hmm .. for more than 20 years, some talk, until during this time a single political, economic, military, currency, legal, humanitarian and cultural space except customs has been created ..
    1. +10
      20 July 2019 18: 27
      Quote: parusnik
      Hmm .. more than 20 years alone talk

      Well, behind these conversations are multibillion-dollar injections, subsidies, preferences from Russia to the Belarusian budget. We all remember how the Russian ambassador to Belarus suddenly became displeased to Lukashenko, and after all, Babich simply calculated and announced the amount of Russian support in 2018 in the amount of 4-4,5 billion dollars.
      1. Duty-free deliveries of Russian oil in 2018 amounted to 18 million tons. The average annual crude oil export duty last year was $ 128 per ton. Total, 18 million * 128 = 2,2 billion dollars.
      2. Revenues from the “customs clearing” scheme of 6 million tons of oil totaled approximately $ 2018 million for Belarus in 850, taking into account surcharges due to higher oil prices.
      These incomes are transferred to the budget of Belarus in the form of gratuitous receipts from Russia, that is, de facto direct subsidies.
      3. Export customs duties on crude oil and petroleum products replenished the treasury of Belarus, according to the Belarusian Ministry of Finance, for 2018 by 2,044 billion Belarusian rubles, or about 970 million dollars.
      4. The re-export of Russian petroleum products allowed official Minsk to receive the amount of $ 200 million that had fallen from the Russian budget. This scheme is nothing more than “a hidden form of Russia's support for the domestic market of Belarus,
      The results of the oil calculation for 2018, judging by the figures of the Ambassador of Russia to Belarus Mikhail Babich, amounted to: 2.2 billion + 850 million + 970 million + 200 million = $ 4,22 billion.
      And here in Russia there is also a tax maneuver in the oil industry, gas at the prices of the Smolensk region does not promise. The most interesting thing is that Putin offers Lukashenko support through official loans to the Belarusian budget in order to make it clear and understandable, and to stop the practice of hidden subsidies. But Lukashenko doesn’t like it — official loans are one thing, and when Russia simply gives money through preferences and there is no loan and do not give. These are the things, and conversations will continue for a long time.
      1. -2
        20 July 2019 22: 00
        Quote: Anatole Klim
        Quote: parusnik
        Hmm .. more than 20 years alone talk

        Well, behind these conversations are multibillion-dollar injections, subsidies, preferences from Russia to the Belarusian budget. We all remember how the Russian ambassador to Belarus suddenly became displeased to Lukashenko, and after all, Babich simply calculated and announced the amount of Russian support in 2018 in the amount of 4-4,5 billion dollars.
        1. Duty-free deliveries of Russian oil in 2018 amounted to 18 million tons. The average annual crude oil export duty last year was $ 128 per ton. Total, 18 million * 128 = 2,2 billion dollars.
        2. Revenues from the “customs clearing” scheme of 6 million tons of oil totaled approximately $ 2018 million for Belarus in 850, taking into account surcharges due to higher oil prices.
        These incomes are transferred to the budget of Belarus in the form of gratuitous receipts from Russia, that is, de facto direct subsidies.
        3. Export customs duties on crude oil and petroleum products replenished the treasury of Belarus, according to the Belarusian Ministry of Finance, for 2018 by 2,044 billion Belarusian rubles, or about 970 million dollars.
        4. The re-export of Russian petroleum products allowed official Minsk to receive the amount of $ 200 million that had fallen from the Russian budget. This scheme is nothing more than “a hidden form of Russia's support for the domestic market of Belarus,
        The results of the oil calculation for 2018, judging by the figures of the Ambassador of Russia to Belarus Mikhail Babich, amounted to: 2.2 billion + 850 million + 970 million + 200 million = $ 4,22 billion.
        And here in Russia there is also a tax maneuver in the oil industry, gas at the prices of the Smolensk region does not promise. The most interesting thing is that Putin offers Lukashenko support through official loans to the Belarusian budget in order to make it clear and understandable, and to stop the practice of hidden subsidies. But Lukashenko doesn’t like it — official loans are one thing, and when Russia simply gives money through preferences and there is no loan and do not give. These are the things, and conversations will continue for a long time.

        Do you think NATO will be cheaper to feed? laughing
        1. +2
          20 July 2019 22: 09
          Quote: Doliva63
          Do you think NATO will be cheaper to feed?

          In my opinion, everyone, first of all, should live on his own, agree to help, no to feed. We have our own poor.
        2. 0
          21 July 2019 13: 35
          No need to speculate on the threat of NATO! In reality, there will be no memories from the country.
        3. +2
          23 July 2019 15: 26
          Quote: Doliva63
          Do you think NATO will be cheaper to feed?

          That is, either feed the fraternal people, or it will instantly change hands and go to NATO?
          By the way, what did Russia get for the money? Whose Crimea? Whose South Ossetia and Abkhazia? Whose MZKT? How are things with the Russian base? How are you dealing with the smuggling of products under the guise of Belarusian documents (for example, the official export of Belarusian apples many times exceeded their official harvest)? wink
          Some kind of one-sided brotherhood turns out ... you feed me, but dare not ask me anything in return.
  5. +2
    20 July 2019 17: 31
    All of these forums can end very quickly. In principle, the work of hundreds of funds in Belarus has already raised the Polish-strawberry generation of celebrities. Russia does not know how to fund.
  6. +5
    20 July 2019 17: 45
    What a pity, in Soviet times, 6 enterprises of the Ministry of Radio Industry of the USSR in Belarus were subordinate to 9 enterprises and research institutes. About 90 thousand specialists worked there. I was the Head of this State Institution from 1978 to 1988. And they produced high-tech products there (Vitebsk TZ. Grodno AM Plant, Horizon, etc.). Everything needs to be restored, people need to work, and, moreover, in the specialty These are our brothers. How nice it was to work together ..
    1. +1
      21 July 2019 13: 01
      It is not a pity, but "you cannot enter the same river twice."
      (Heraclitus).
    2. 0
      21 July 2019 13: 37
      Who should restore? Putin again?
  7. +2
    20 July 2019 18: 37
    It seems that it is not necessary to convince the expediency of the union of the two states, and all this time they have been meeting and discussing for more than 20 years. During this time, they have not come to the question of combining economies, a single currency, a single management system, although knowing the management style Lukashenko and Putin could agree in a day
    1. Underwater hunter
      +1
      20 July 2019 19: 46
      Quote: APASUS
      During this time, they did not come to the question of combining economies, a single currency, a single management system

      I think they don’t even blame it.
    2. 0
      21 July 2019 13: 41
      And from observations it is necessary to draw conclusions: who turns his nose up? Who likes preserving the past? Who intimidates naive villagers with "oligarchs"?
  8. +3
    20 July 2019 21: 16
    Luke is a union like a sickle .... He will dance to the last and people in Belarus will be brainwashed by oligarchs (this is generally a fetish), and something else like that. After all, Russia will immediately tear apart such a great economy, and indeed everything will be very bad. And we, in Russia, have a lot of Belarussian leaders and nothing, we live on the sly, maybe they too need to be afraid ... but we don’t know ...
  9. +3
    20 July 2019 22: 05
    My sister lives in Minsk. She is 55 years old, probably. He says your Putin is not bad, but he’s far from the Old Man. What time! The voice of the people, however.
    1. +2
      21 July 2019 13: 43
      Yes, another grandmother said ....
    2. +1
      23 July 2019 15: 33
      Quote: Doliva63
      My sister lives in Minsk. She is 55 years old, probably. He says your Putin is not bad, but he’s far from the Old Man. What time! The voice of the people, however.

      Well, yes, twenty years to pull money from a neighbor, blackmailing him with his departure to the West - this is really far from Putin. smile
      40 billion dollars from the budget of the Russian Federation only in the oil sector - it is not surprising that Lukashenka did not like the "tax maneuver" so much.
  10. 0
    24 July 2019 15: 06
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Quote: Doliva63
    My sister lives in Minsk. She is 55 years old, probably. He says your Putin is not bad, but he’s far from the Old Man. What time! The voice of the people, however.

    Well, yes, twenty years to pull money from a neighbor, blackmailing him with his departure to the West - this is really far from Putin. smile
    40 billion dollars from the budget of the Russian Federation only in the oil sector - it is not surprising that Lukashenka did not like the "tax maneuver" so much.

    Well yes. For 20 years, it is impossible to acquire unconditional allies in the person of Belarus and Ukraine - this must be done very hard. But Putin did it! So staaa, daragy are scattered ... (c).
  11. w70
    0
    25 July 2019 07: 23
    It was necessary to arrest Lukashenko and annex Belarus, no one would pickle
  12. 0
    28 July 2019 10: 51
    Russian princes were also not eager to "lie under Moscow". The "elites" will obviously have less power (the trough will decrease). And common universities, one history, one currency is a completely evolutionary path to one state.

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