TsSR Zvyozdochka signed a contract for the modernization of the dry dock under Kuznetsov

The Zvezdochka Ship Repair Center (included in USC) has signed a contract for the modernization of the dry dock at the 35-th ship repair plant in Murmansk, which is necessary for carrying out the docking of the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR. The contract value is 20 billion rubles. Reports about it "Businessman" with reference to its sources.

As the newspaper writes, the contract was concluded with the Petersburg "Investments. Engineering. Construction" (IIS), which undertakes to upgrade the dry dock on the 35-GCC. IIS should carry out work on the merger of two adjacent chambers, removing the partition between them, thereby making one of the two docks large, as well as repair and modernize all the structures of the hydraulic structure (walls, slipway, dock equipment, etc.). According to the information available, the work is planned to be completed during 2020.

At Zvezdochka they confirmed the fact of signing the contract for the modernization of the dock and the scope of upcoming work, but declined to comment on the cost of the contract and the deadlines. The IIS also refused to disclose the details of the contract, adding that they had won in a closed competition.

According to the results of the modernization, the largest dock in Russia will be created for the reception of large ships and ships. The contract’s hydrotechnical works are aimed at the quickest commissioning of the dock so that all deadlines are met, including the repair and delivery of the Admiral Kuznetsov

- said a member of the board of directors of IIS Andrei Mushkarev

Earlier it was reported that the modernization of the dry dock on the 35-s GCC was in the plans of the enterprise, but the work was planned to begin no earlier than 2021. However, the flooding of Russia's largest floating dock PD-50 and the need to find a place for dry docking for the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR shifted the start of work to the 2019 year.

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[Uncle lee]

moved the start of work for 2019.

At least one plus from flooding the floating dock.

[siberalt]

Kuzya without smoke from the exhaust will not be afraid of anyone.

[loki565]

We have many ships that can show the afterburner of boilers)))

[Ros 56]

They should switch to gas if it’s good, but if you gouge something or you get a shell in battle, dear mother, they’ll fly to the moon.

[loki565]

This is the launch of boilers, then it does not smoke anymore, the Yankees, by the way, also start up.

[tihonmarine]

Simple physics, when you start the installation is cold, the fuel does not have time to burn. You have the same picture on your personal car, only you have 80 l / s, and it has 80 000 l / s

[Every]

Quote: siberalt

Kuzya without smoke from the exhaust will not be afraid of anyone.

Why did everyone get to this smoke? Fuel from heavy oil, Russian - Urals, that's smoking. Another thing is that before going to the Mediterranean Sea, he had half the fuel reserves at the base of the cesspool.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Uncle Lee

moved the start of work for 2019.

At least one plus from flooding the floating dock.

But what are the prices ?! Is it too hard?

The contract value is 20 billion rubles.

And right there:

At Zvezdochka they confirmed the fact of signing the contract for the modernization of the dock and the scope of upcoming work, but declined to comment on the cost of the contract and the deadlines. The IIS also refused to disclose the details of the contract, adding that they had won in a closed competition.

"Where is the money, Zin ?!"

[nPuBaTuP]

It turns out that the term is again shifting to the right?

[demo]

In Russia, only one side is the right.

[FenH]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

It turns out that the term is again shifting to the right?

turn left
Earlier it was reported that the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th shipyard was in the plans of the enterprise, but the work was planned to start no earlier than 2021. However, the flooding of the largest Russian floating dock PD-50 and the need to find a place for dry docking for the Admiral Kuznetsov TAVKR pushed the start of work to 2019 year.

[tihonmarine]

When someone screwed the thread to the right, the terms immediately shifted to the left.

[Piramidon]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

It turns out that the term is again shifting to the right?

But, if you re-read carefully, then for 2 years LEFT. From 2021st to 2019th

It was previously reported that the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th Shipyard was in the plans of the enterprise, but it was planned to start work no earlier than 2021... However, the flooding of the largest in Russia floating dock PD-50 and the need to find a place for dry docking for the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" moved the start of work for 2019.

[FenH]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: nPuBaTuP

It turns out that the term is again shifting to the right?

But, if you re-read carefully, then for 2 years LEFT. From 2021st to 2019th

It was previously reported that the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th Shipyard was in the plans of the enterprise, but it was planned to start work no earlier than 2021... However, the flooding of the largest in Russia floating dock PD-50 and the need to find a place for dry docking for the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" moved the start of work for 2019.

Many writers and few readers

[Piramidon]

Quote: FenH

Many writers and few readers

Perhaps my mother did not teach in childhood - where is right and where is left.

[nPuBaTuP]

Well, how did you move it to the left if the dock will be modernized in the 20th and you’re talking about the 19th ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: nPuBaTuP

if they begin to modernize the dock in the 20th and you’re talking about the 19th ...

The trouble is the trouble ...

According to the available information, the work is planned to complete during 2020.

Complete, Carl. Now for getting started:

the modernization of the dry dock at the 35th shipyard was in the plans of the enterprise, but the work was planned to begin no earlier than 2021. However, the flooding of the largest in Russia floating dock PD-50 and the need to find a place for dry docking for the TAVKR "Admiral Kuznetsov" moved the start of work for 2019.

[cosmos-PS]

Yes, they wrote the wrong number - not 19, but 29.

[Saboteur Holuy]

Is it not easier to invite China or South Korea for construction at all? Only they do not give kickbacks ...

[Saturday]

Quote: Saboteur Holuay

Only they do not give kickbacks ...

give, even as give .... for a winning tender give with pleasure

[lucul]

Is it not easier to invite China or South Korea for construction at all? Only they do not give kickbacks ...

The quality is not right ....

[Hagalaz]

And let's call the Chinese to ourselves and live. We transfer competencies. And we’ll put our people on unemployment benefits .

[Ros 56]

You will invite someone for your wife instead of you, well, stop writing nonsense any nonsense. Himself not dumb to humiliate himself in front of foreign countries?

[loki565]

Himself not dumb to humiliate himself in front of foreign countries?

Well, here's how to look))) the USSR did not humble itself when I bought PD50 over a hill ??? And in the USSR, shipbuilding was better developed than now.

[Antokha]

In fact, the Chinese with the Uzbeks are inviting themselves to go home. They are not shy about coming.

[aszzz888]

IIS should to carry out work on combining two adjacent chambers, removing the partition between them, thereby making one large of two docks, and also to repair and upgrade all structures of this hydraulic structure (walls, slipway, dock equipment etc.). According to the available information, the work is planned complete in 2020 year.

And in one year to learn 20 lard?

The contract value is 20 billion rubles.

[Vladimir61]

Quote: aszzz888

And in one year to learn 20 lard?

Why write any nonsense, just to be noted! With the same success, you can offer your services with a team of guest workers, reduce the price, reduce the time and go to OSK. Yes, I forgot that looming prospect still needs to offer who needs a rollback. Try, writing is not harmful.

[aszzz888]

Vladimir61 (Vladimir) Today, 11: 07Why write any nonsense, just to be noted! .. Try, writing is not harmful.

It’s such a concern, such a concern ... worry about your grandmother, and here I’ll try to get by without prompts, you are our caring.

[Dart2027]

Quote: aszzz888

Worry about your grandmother

Why not follow your own advice?

[aszzz888]

Vladimir61 (Vladimir) Today, 11: 07

Well, py.s. 20 000 000 000: 365 days = 54 794 520 rub... no kopecks. Simple arithmetic. And now "try to write is not harmful", without worrying about guest workers. Almost 55 lyamas "master" EVERY day, without holidays and weekends. Clever guys, hello.

[Vladimir61]

That is the point! He argues only with a calculator on the couch, others work, trying to realize in a material representation what the wise couchs see only in numbers! And my grandmother, pull your mustache, I had no complaints about yours! Paper Marshal.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: aszzz888

And in one year to learn 20 lard?

It just seems like a lot. And for some reason no one saw that the modernization of the hydraulic structure and its equipment would be carried out. Secondly, hydraulic works are very expensive, due to the complexity, strength and reliability of these structures. As well as special treatment of surfaces, their primer, painting, ECP. We also do not know the cost of the equipment that will be installed instead of the outdated ...
Before allocating funds, the project undergoes a technical and economic examination. Where every expert considers it a matter of honor to "get to the bottom" of any detail ... Therefore, 20 lard is a minimorius that was squeezed out on a "by-product".

[knn54]

If it were not for the LK-60Ya, which also have nowhere to "dock", the money would not have been seen so quickly.
-Sheriff: and in one year to master 20 lard.?
Playfulness is the norm of life ...

[aszzz888]

knn54 (Nikolai) Today, 08: 38
+3
If it were not for the LK-60Ya, which also have nowhere to "dock", the money would not have been seen so quickly.
-Sheriff: and in one year to master 20 lard.?
Playfulness is the norm...

I almost agree. And how many more with such "playfulness" will be plundered?

[Dart2027]

Quote: aszzz888

with such "playfulness" they will plunder

Is there evidence?

[Andrey NM]

Quote: knn54

If not for the LK-60Ya, which also have nowhere to "dock"

And where is the inter-voyage passage for our "rocket carriers"? Boats of the 667th, 949th, 955th projects now where to drive? To Severodvinsk?
It seems that the "murder" of PD-50 has been forgiven ... Not much yet and there will be a year, but no conclusions.
And another question, at whose expense 20 lard? It would be right if, at the expense of the new PD-50 owners and those superiors who initiated the transfer of the dock to a private shop ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: knn54

LK-60Ya, which also have nowhere to "dock",

Quote: Andrey NM

And where is the inter-voyage passage for our "rocket carriers"?

It’s to ensure that such questions do not arise in the future, opposite Roslyakovo, on the right bank of the Kola Bay, the first phase of the Kola Shipyard NOVATEK (the center for the construction of large-capacity marine structures) is being built. It includes 2 dry docks with dimensions 415x175x15 m. They will be located in the village of Belokamenka, 43 km from Murmansk. Therefore, the modernization of PD is a necessary measure. Although it does not interfere with the North as a whole. Here in these dry docks you can even build platforms for the NSR and LNG production.

[Povelitel_buri]

Quote: BoA KAA

It consists of 2 dry docks with dimensions of 415x175x15 m.

These docks are exclusively for gravity platforms. And since NOVATEK is in such a hurry to build its shipyard, this means that they really need these platforms. And there can be no talk of any regular docking of the SF ships. Even the docks of the Kola shipyard are inconvenient in that there is no batoport, but only an embankment. So regular dock operations involve frequent entry-exit from the docks, and such an embankment is not intended for this - it was filled up once for several months while the platform is being built and touch more.

[Andrey NM]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

opposite the village of Roslyakovo on the right bank of the Kola Bay

Belokamenka like on the left bank of the Kola Bay ...
To be honest, I have no idea how to carry out an inter-walk in a private shop. There must be specialists in ship designs, with the appropriate clearance. The time for inter-trip inspection and repair is approaching, and the "office" may well say - sorry, we are busy, and in general it is not profitable for us, we have enough questions ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Andrey NM

Belokamenka like on the left bank of the Kola Bay ...

On the right. For sailors, the side of the bay is counted from the entrance from the sea. It is at the riverman - along the river.

[Andrey NM]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

On the right. For sailors, the side of the bay is counted from the entrance from the sea. It is at the riverman - along the river.

Okay. To be honest, I never thought about it.

[seregin-s1]

This dock is needed not only for the repair of the Kuznetsov, but also for the construction of a new aircraft carrier.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: seregin-s1

This dock is needed not only for the repair of the Kuznetsov, but also for the construction of a new aircraft carrier.

With basing of ultra-modern instant 29k

[Piramidon]

Quote: seregin-s1

This dock is needed not only for the repair of the Kuznetsov, but also for the construction of a new aircraft carrier.

I’m not a shipbuilder, but it seems that the ships are not being built at the docks, but on slipways.

[Povelitel_buri]

In dry docks it’s still being built - from aircraft carriers to floating factories. The main thing is to have powerful gantry cranes.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Povelitel_buri

In the dry docks, even as they build

They are building, who can argue ... But the plant should be called not "ship repair", but SHIPBUILDING! That's all, but the difference is significant.
But.

[Povelitel_buri]

The answer was strictly on dry dock. And below I had an explanation on shipbuilding and ship repair docks.

[Rzzz]

A slipway can also be mounted in the dock. Even in the floating, he saw with his own eyes. So it turns out the calmest descent, the dock is flooded, the ship pops up. Building on a slipway on land is more convenient, but harder to lower.
For example, a hefty cruiser built in a dry dock.

In fact, the construction dock can be a stupid pit on the shore, even without a gate. After the work is completed, the pit is flooded and a jumper is dug up to open water.

[Povelitel_buri]

It will be a shipyard, not a construction dock, it DOES NOT SUPPLEMENT powerful gantry cranes like Goliath at SSK "Zvezda" - they do not build a shipyard nearby, there is only a shipyard nearby, which cannot be mistaken for a shipyard.

[Nycomed]

How much fuss because of one "Kuzi"! But it would be possible with this money to build at least one, indeed, modern destroyer!

[skinar]

A large dock on the farm is always useful, both for the military and for the citizen

[ZAV69]

There is no point in one destroyer. Need a series of 10-12 pieces.

[Vladimir1155]

if one thing is unnecessary, then several, each of which is unnecessary (10-12) will also be unnecessary

[Marconi41]

Quote: Nycomed

How much fuss because of one "Kuzi"!

Yeah. Kuznetsov’s repair will cost us a little. If there are no other similar ships, then the dock will not be profitable.

[Povelitel_buri]

- Does the SSBN need to be docked somewhere? Necessary.
- Do icebreakers of the "Arctic" type need to be docked somewhere? Necessary.
- Do you need to dock the future icebreakers like "Leaders" somewhere? Necessary.
- LNG gas carriers need to be docked somewhere? Necessary
We must look wider ...

[Marconi41]

Quote: Povelitel_buri

Icebreakers like "Arctic" need to dock somewhere?

And before they did not pass docking? They enter smaller docks than the one that drowned. And I already wrote about the Leaders. If they are not, then a large dock will not be profitable.

[Povelitel_buri]

I mean the new type of "Arctic" LK-60Ya, which are larger than the previous "Arctic" and which now have nowhere to dock. So that's it ...

Quote: Marconi41

And I already wrote about the Leaders. If they will not be

The technical design of the icebreaker is already being done and the construction will be on the "Zvezda", what are you talking about?
Did you ignore the rest of the points? Yes?

[Marconi41]

Quote: Povelitel_buri

Did you ignore the rest of the points? Yes?

I’m not ready to answer the boats, I find out. And everything else will go down the docks less. What is still too early to discuss in the project. Well, gas carriers can be docked in the Far East, where they carry gas.

[Povelitel_buri]

The same SSBN "Dmitry Donskoy" has nowhere to dock. Maybe Zvezdochka will accept it, but there is a huge queue for upgrading other boats. There are not so many smaller floating docks left on the Northern Fleet. Since the PD-1 was drowned and then raised in 2009, it has not been used and is quietly standing next to the PD-3, which can receive the Arctic icebreakers of the previous generation. But the LK-60Ya already in width does not fit into the size. There is another two-hundred-meter floating dock, but one for the entire icebreaker fleet and nuclear submarine, as well as TARKRy, will not be enough.
P.S. not all gas carriers in the Far East will be able to dock. There will be only one dock, in which it is also necessary to build something.

[Marconi41]

Quote: Povelitel_buri

not all gas carriers in the Far East will be able to dock. There will be only one dock, in which it is also necessary to build something.

On civil courts and no questions. China, South Korea. They are often repaired there more often. At a price in China, cheaper than ours.

[Povelitel_buri]

Quote: Marconi41

At a price in China, cheaper than ours.

Not surprisingly, it’s cheaper and even faster. After all, all SRHs are dilapidated. And for such giants of tankers and gas carriers, there are no docks at all. Moreover, those gas carriers that will work in the European direction are driven absurdly to China. So the future dry dock of such sizes will definitely not remain idle in any case.

[rayruav]

here, along the way, the commander or the first-time kuzi minus all

[rayruav]

when the dock is repaired and then no modernization will help this ship in this Kuznetsov dock, time will leave and it already doesn’t meet modern realities, money will swell a lot and the output will be zilch in Russia now

[ZAV69]

Midway 45 years with amers served. Right now the museum has been working for almost 30 years. So it’s worth upgrading Kuzyu. Although the practice for the pilots will be in a real situation and not on a thread.

[rayruav]

bugs, you don’t know about our long-term construction, you probably fly into space or put cranes with Putin on the wing

[ZAV69]

Kuzyu fix 3-4 years. With our long-term construction, the new Avik is 10-15 years old (if according to the drawings of Ulyanovsk), and if we take into account what else we have not decided on the concept ....... Which is better, flyers without practice 3-4 years or 10-15?

[Nycomed]

So "Kuzya", by age, will soon catch up with "Midway", only he really served and he had a lot of campaigns, and "Kuzya" defended more and more. So maybe go straight to the museum?

[Artemiy_2]

Or maybe according to this logic, the Navy can be dissolved?

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Diversant Holuy

Is it not easier to invite China or South Korea for construction at all? Only they do not give kickbacks ...

They get kickbacks. So, if you only care about this, then it’s better to do it yourself. At least kickbacks remain with ours.

[Carib]

On Kuznetsovo, apparently, they are going to run in new modules, equipment, which will then be laid in a new aircraft carrier .... In general, more time for debugging and more ready-made units.

[Ros 56]

And the rise of PD-50 is really more expensive than 20 lard, it’s with our salaries, I don’t believe anything.

[loki565]

He had already worked out a resource, flowed from all the cracks and the pumps threshed around the clock, but how did the interruption turn out with email. immediately went to the bottom. And so: you need to lift it somehow, the case is damaged, all equipment is under replacement, cranes are damaged, it’s cheaper and easier to build a new one.

[Ros 56]

What does "tech" mean, and where did the operators look, the bike must be periodically MOT, and this colossus, given its importance for the fleet, even more so. Under Stalin, they would have felled the forest with jigsaws long ago. Already a hundred times I was convinced that the country is full of incompetence, carelessness, irresponsibility and impunity. This false liberalism will still turn back on us and in human lives.

[rayruav]

not my minus, metal has the concept of fatigue, then there is an efficiency-cost parameter add two and two get an answer about kuzyu yes forgot to say effective managers sex of the country and there are no competent techies and engineers and it’s not foreseen where to get competent operation from

[Ros 56]

Is there strength analytics? And you can say anything.

[rayruav]

Yuri, the question here is not how many mm the rust ate, but the fact that the design of the ship itself, its architecture does not meet modern requirements for the combat tasks of this class of ships, but it’s suitable as a training for pilots of aircraft carriers because of the lack of other similar ships

[Ros 56]

As far as I know, there were no complaints in Syria, but the fact that the cables were torn again claims to the operators, and not to the equipment.

[Rzzz]

Quote: Ros 56

where the operators looked, the bicycle needs to do maintenance from time to time, and this colossus, even if it is significant for the fleet.

In order to repair the floating dock, you need, suddenly, another dock, even larger.
PD-50 was considered a temporary solution until they build dry. There it would be possible to lift both large steamers and the PD-50 itself. And it was already begun to be built, but suddenly the 90s came.

[Romario_Argo]

I understand that there were 2 options, we decided to simply combine and increase the length

lower shallows cranes cannot fully move along the entire length of the dock

[Antokha]

The news is expected, but very joyful. The project has already been worked out, they wrote about it here. And the timing is very pleasing. If they survive, it will be a balm for the wound of the speed of work in domestic shipbuilding on related areas.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Anton

. If they stand, it will be a balm for the wound with

That case when there is a silver lining.

[Vladimir1155]

agree the good news, because in that dock, in addition to the unnecessary Kuznetsov, you can put on the repair of the submarine !!!!!! and other useful ships

[Antokha]

Kuznetsov is needed. And it is supposed to be placed parallel to the aircraft carrier and in the next row something else. The separation wall will be installed as necessary. But couldn’t the nuclear submarines get there both this way and in one and the other?

[Roman070280]

For such grandmas, I won’t be surprised if the old dock was specially drowned ..

[Alexander Petrov1]

Right, you had to make a long dry dock for a long time, and not build a complex and expensive floating ship that could sink, all the aircraft carriers are repairing dry dock in the United States and nothing is present in all the oceans.

[Vladimir1155]

if this is true, then Kuzyu can not be sold until China and India ...... or is it better to file immediately after the repair? why is he to Russia