Straight line with Kiev. And why not with Lugansk?

75
This week, on the Russia 1 TV channel, a teleconference was announced between Moscow and Kiev called “Need to Talk”, which was scheduled to take place on July 12. TV journalists assured the viewer that this “unique” space bridge would be completely devoid of politics, and the heroes would be “simple people” (not political scientists and not experts), as well as various “stars”.





And if everything is clear with the “stars”, then it is absolutely incomprehensible what is hidden under the amorphous term “ordinary people”. Does any pilot of the Novorossiysk port fleet or a turner of the Uralmash plant really change his desire to communicate with a dozen gardeners from under Zhmerinka? And how can you generally verify those who are stuck in this teleconference, especially from the Ukrainian side, who daily confirms the reputation of fabulous feykomet, as they are now called information fraudsters.

Lead appointed Andrei Malakhov. That very “yellowed” Malakhov, in the programs of which, with another schizophrenic freak, “the whole country is crying.” Together with him will work Maria Sittel. And from Kiev, the space bridge was supposed to receive the “pro-Russian” TV channel NewsOne. In my humble opinion, any Ukrainian modern structure is as “pro-Russian” as the “Party of Regions” once was “pro-Russian”, dissolved in space and time. Today, the adherents of this party have settled well. For example, Lyoshenka Goncharenko, before joyfully shooting the bodies of burned people in Odessa with a smartphone camera, was an ardent "regional".

Straight line with Kiev. And why not with Lugansk?


Earlier, such proprietary Russophobes as Matvey Ganapolsky, covering the area with his own viewers, and Yevgeny Kiselyov, who, according to some journalists, were too zealous in worshiping Bakhus, worked on the TV channel. A couple of years ago, the TV channel was bought by someone Taras Kozak, a member of the Opposition Bloc, but the channel itself, as Donbas militia called terrorists, continues to call it. And the reader should not be confused by the Nazi rallies under the windows of the channel. This is just a part of the raider business - serious people solve serious issues. The same Nazis recently trashed Inter, "nourished" the current president of Zelensky, tracing his predecessor, even in terms of inadequate behavior.


Matvey Ganapolsky


By itself, the question arises: why do we need to arrange a direct line Moscow - Kiev? Of course, if we omit the possibility of skillful provocation, which would vividly illuminate the essence of modern Ukraine and its unlucky comedian on the throne and, of course, if we do not take into account the usual desire of the channel’s management to earn money on the rating, then the answers to the question “why” actually highlight our external politicians.

To be heard?


From a technical point of view, this promise is ridiculous. Have the various seizure resolutions of the previous president Poroshenko made the Internet less global and global?

Moreover, in April of this year, I lived in a hotel in Sverdlovsk (Luhansk People's Republic). And one evening I returned to my room and decided to watch TV. At some point, I froze in utter surprise, realizing that from what I saw, I was starting to almost chew on a smoked cigarette. From the screen I was watched by the unforgettable Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, speaking on his own channel LDPR TV. As I later found out, with the proper desire to become a spectator of Russian TV, at least in Eastern Ukraine, it is easy.

In addition, it is not clear why we are once again talking about the need to bring something to the people of Ukraine by the same people who for five years asserted about a whole crowd of Ukrainian relatives allegedly available to every citizen of Russia. And, of course, all this relatives communicate almost daily!

Thus, it is important to understand that the “deafness” of Ukrainians is not technical and certainly not physical. This "deafness" ideological and political, which is cultivated in two directions. The first is direct and blatant repression, from the prohibition of the Russian language to criminal prosecution. The second is rapid career growth, which shines to any lad who is ready to share the nationalist nonsense of the authorities.

The roots of such “complacency” to Ukraine of Moscow “creacles” are based on two postulates: “there are also good people there” and “we are fraternal peoples”. The first postulate from the category “for the poor”, however, is true. The Nazi junta that came to power, although it changes the size of the sirloin of the nominal presidents of the country, does not listen to any voice of the people, plunging this very people into an artificially created reality curve. In the end, even the presence in Germany of the infinitely talented Erich Maria Remarque and Stefan Zweig (who had to flee from the Nazi country) and their popularity in the Union did not in any way affect the overthrow of the Führer. And, as you know, in the end, only the Red Army had experience in eliminating the Nazi evil. Not the “radio bridge” Moscow - Berlin, not just another human rights activist, politician or writer, but the Red Army. And since our journalists adore the analogy between modern Ukraine and Nazi Germany, why is this fact ignored?


Beating a NewsOne journalist


The second postulate about the "fraternal peoples", as the author has already written in previous materials, grows out of the nostalgic post-traumatic syndrome that struck Russia after the collapse of the great Union. For almost thirty years this nostalgia does not allow us to approach our post-Soviet environment with the utmost pragmatism, which would also affect the former republics much more sobering and much more salvific for their population than the ostentatious "friendship."

Thus, a straight line in this historical context is nothing more than a battered and worn emery paper, which is used to smooth out sharp corners on a steel stool. The case is ridiculous and even harmful. After all, under the gentle veil of this stylized tolerance in the Russian manner, serious people like Igor Kolomoisky, Arsen Avakov and the rising star of the terry Ukrainian Nazism Andrei Biletsky will solve their own financial and political problems infinitely distant from the people.

And why there is no teleconference Donetsk - Moscow or Moscow - Lugansk?


So, the Kiev-Moscow teleconference was successfully thwarted by the so predictable actions of the Ukrainian Nazis that Nostradamus smoked nervously on the sidelines. Moreover, the General Prosecutor’s Office of Ukraine has already filed a criminal case on the NewsOne TV channel itself under the article “Financing of Terrorism”. On the walls of the building in which the television channel is located, characteristic Nazi Ludoi inscriptions appeared, and the TV channel journalists were hunted.

However, even after this, not one of our TV reporters hinted at the possibility of conducting the same large-scale and well-announced teleconference Moscow-Donetsk or Moscow-Lugansk. Why did Russia 1 decide not to pay attention to a much more appreciative audience, whose heads are not littered with an ideological neo-Nazi salad party and whose questions will be much more constructive, specific and timely?


No comments


In the modest opinion of the author, this was not done just because of the constructiveness and specificity of the questions that Donbass Moscow can ask. A simple resident of Donbass, who is much more difficult to hide behind the bohemian husk, is a very unpleasant interlocutor for the good-natured metropolitan public.

For example, the residents of Donbass quite reasonably ask, for what reason, having a Donbass residence permit and a valid passport in their hands, does the common man still have to pass the checkpoint at the border for hours? Why is a neutral lane between two checkpoints necessary to walk on foot with weighty baggage on hand, despite age and gender?

Or why the Russian market continues to remain closed for products from the Donbass? In fact, only a few companies (like the Lugansk meat-processing plant) received permission to trade their goods in Russia. However, this territory is limited to the Rostov region and the Crimea. But Donbas really has something to offer an ordinary buyer. These are dairy products, meat products, and confectionery products, and (you cannot throw out words from a song) alcohol. All this is very decent quality and at more than reasonable prices. The author tried the above mentioned products himself and was satisfied, but already in Russia I did not find anything of this.

Donbass, I am afraid, will have many questions ...
75 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +20
    13 July 2019 05: 51
    She came without a farthing
    A babe without a name
    So much ado 'bout nothing
    Is what she'd try to say
    Et Queens, song "All dead" And the highlighted line is translated "Much ado about nothing." Do you understand that the format of television broadcasting has actually died out, there have been no SENSE discussions there for a long time - have they gone on the Internet long ago? It seems to me - you understand, because you are writing an article here, and not a script for the transmission of NTV or TNT laughing Why? Because initially TV, like "of all the arts, cinema is the most important for us" - it was originally intended for the viewer, as it were, mildly, poorly educated, we read in warehouses, but you can also watch the picture frankly down ... Only what reasoning can take down? And no, only unfounded slogans. And what is more, if instead of a bright picture you start in TV attention, it is the picture that shoves arguments into the viewer, it is boring, it is more pleasant to look at a beautiful girl, or at cats. and what sounds in the background is not so important.
    Demon with them, with Kiev, Kuev or Durkuev - even if they organize a teleconference with Jesus - this does not affect anything. One demon will come out "chewing gum for the brains"
    1. +4
      13 July 2019 11: 21
      And, as you know, in the end, only the Red Army had experience in eliminating Nazi evil. Not the Moscow-Berlin radio bridge, not just another human rights activist, politician or writer, but the Red Army.
      Talking with Kiev is a conversation between the dumb and the deaf (Look blind, said the dumb how the legless man would run).
  2. +12
    13 July 2019 06: 23
    What good is Russia from this?
    Citizens of the DNI and LC?

    Only PR to guardians and the elite to hang out ....

    The main thing is that no concessions to Ukraine as a result of this "conversation"!
    1. -7
      13 July 2019 08: 50
      Stalin would have been promoting, had such a teleconference with Hitlerite Germany passed.
      1. +13
        13 July 2019 11: 30
        Stalin’s PR always ended positively - the Molotov and Ribentrop Pact, the annexation of Western Ukraine and Belarus to the USSR, the annexation of the Kaliningrad Region, the annexation of the Kuril Islands and the reunification of Sakhalin, also Vyborg and Nickel. What a PR! Maybe someone doubts? I forgot, Poland also threw part of East Prussia, albeit in vain.
        1. +8
          13 July 2019 13: 34
          As for the products from LDNR, I live on the border with LDNR, and illegally they constantly bring food and alcohol to us. Everything is of very good quality, and the price is acceptable for everyone. The question is, why is it impossible to import all this officially?
          1. +6
            13 July 2019 20: 47
            Do you want to pay money to our resellers? You say that the price is acceptable for both the seller and the buyer. So what's the matter, what else is needed? To some Caucasian huckster in Moscow or in Rostov welded on his pocket?
    2. +5
      13 July 2019 11: 33
      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      What good is Russia from this?
      Citizens of the DNI and LC?

      Only PR to guardians and the elite to hang out ....

      The main thing is that no concessions to Ukraine as a result of this "conversation"!

      If the "elite", as Skobeeva said: - "People need to talk", let them honor the Sumerian posts to"60 minutes (chasing) ", they learn a lot of interesting things about themselves. laughing
      By the way, the selection of the presenters is epic, it was necessary to invite from Kyuv Ganopolsky. I directly represent the dialogue:
      Malakhov: - Matvey, tell me how you came to the decision to wear lingerie? People want steamy details.
      Ganapolsky: - Andrei, this is a protest against the aggressive policy of Russia, because your Putin forbade the Russians to wear lace panties, so I took revenge and revenge on him, all the monuments to Lenin were already demolished.
      And so on in their "corporate" style.
      Apparently, the ratings of various "YouTubers" do not let the federal channels sleep well either. They arrange to "talk" with those (and those) who, to a large extent, have produced and multiplied all this muck. Apparently they really felt themselves as "the 4th power". The Ministry of Foreign Affairs should be engaged in this, and not "elite journalists", they would not forget to invite Babchenko, who is not tolerant. negative
    3. +2
      13 July 2019 22: 23
      Quote: Michael Drabkin
      What good is Russia from this?
      Citizens of the DNI and LC?

      Only PR to guardians and the elite to hang out ....

      The main thing is that no concessions to Ukraine as a result of this "conversation"!

      What good? Good question ... For more than 5 years, discussions on the situation in Ukraine have been going on every day on our TV channels! It's just Santa Barbara in Russian, nothing more! The same people say the same thing
  3. +26
    13 July 2019 06: 29
    I haven't watched TV for a long time. But now there is a passionate desire to break it ... when I see these "faces ... Malakhov, Ganapolsky on the monitor ... Saturday is ruined. However, it’s my work.”
    1. +12
      13 July 2019 06: 50
      And yes, the author. I confirm that the fellow countryman is the quality of LDNR products. We there in 2014 helped with energy.
      1. +7
        13 July 2019 11: 33
        Ooh! how I support you. A century would not have seen these faces or ry ...
    2. +10
      13 July 2019 07: 16
      Here I am at work this morning, good morning to you! I’ll add to your words that the television leaders have something to be proud of. If earlier their * creations * were simply criticizing, now, as you correctly noted, it is the desire to break up the unfortunate television box. For this is ALL , occasionally turn it on and make sure of it. On the topic: who needs it at all, this teleconference?
      1. +3
        13 July 2019 11: 42
        Here I am at work today, good morning to you! I will add to your words that television leaders have something to be proud of.
        I, too, have been fooling around at work in the morning, I wanted to watch the series "Wings of the Empire", which was interrupted in 2017, and with anticipation of brewing a huge mug of extra strong tea without sugar, I rummaged through online sites, but again it was not there. None of the sites have episodes 5 and beyond. Again, the copyright holder of Channel One makes a "taboo", oh, how the truth hurts your eyes.
        1. +3
          13 July 2019 12: 15
          Today, just a massive exit to work happened laughing I also suffer in the presence, so everyone on Saturday wink
          On the topic: I think that the teleconference has fully justified itself. Howl, hysteria and cancellation were almost obvious in advance. This weapon is an infowave, operation if you want. It is successful, banderlog again predictably plucked out of himself and in the same smeared. The author correctly noted that in Ukraine there are a lot of normal people, but even more hesitant. It’s worth fighting for the latter.
          And Donbass, yes, is inconvenient for teleconference, questions will be ... But Donbass is not abandoned, this is the main thing.
    3. +3
      13 July 2019 07: 36
      And I don’t look at the box, and Saturday is working! but like Sunday!
    4. +1
      13 July 2019 07: 47
      Quote: 210ox
      I haven’t watched TV for a long time
      Quote: Phil77
      occasionally turn it on and make sure
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      And I don’t look at the box, and Saturday is working!

      You probably don't know how to watch it. For example, on the 11th of this month, Michael Bohm in the program "Time will Show" passed Medvedev with giblets, admitting that under him Russia and the United States had excellent relations. And A. Sheinin himself said that the first channel (VGTRK) is not state-owned - this is to the fact that many consider it Kremlin propaganda, and since perestroika we know that everything is not ours, then theirs.

      In general, you need to watch what they show and in no case listen to what the presenters say. TV is still one of the most affordable tools to fool people. It is not for nothing that the bourgeoisie poured so much dough into 20 free channels ...
      1. +2
        13 July 2019 11: 48
        For example, on the 11th of this month, Michael Bohm in the "Time Will Show" program passed Medvedev with giblets, admitting that under him Russia and the United States had excellent relations.
        And whom and what he handed over, everyone has long known this without Mishka Bohm.
      2. +3
        13 July 2019 12: 55
        I read the news on VO with the comments of smart people and this is enough for me!
    5. +5
      13 July 2019 08: 28
      Something is happening. The ignored rudeness of the journalist, scandals around the security forces, the FREQUENT appearance of Chubais on the screens of the "zombie", a failure in the economy. And what will happen tomorrow?
    6. +16
      13 July 2019 08: 33
      It was disgusting to look at this, the so-called, "show" (offensive for Sittel) with the main RTV drain sewer by the name of Malakhov, when the association immediately arose that they would bring (bring, bring) a bottle of Mole to Alibasov's studio , slender kept women-swindlers with pumped lips, innocent eyes and the same "innocent", sorry, genitals, former drunken "stars", and, as without them, other marginal element.
      But no. It was even more disgusting that respected people came to this ass-kiss. I wanted to put 2 fingers in my mouth and vomit on the "box", but only he is not to blame.
      Question? And for whom and why was all this humiliation of the Russian people shown? Let us swear in eternal love not only for the Probander’s outskirts, but also for the Baltic states, who humiliate the Russians, all the Central Asians who drove ours with their bare booty, if they remained alive and, of course, as without them, to the former burials, and now proud, mountain gabuins, pissing in wine for Russia.
      1. 0
        13 July 2019 11: 54
        all Central Asians who drove ours with a bare booty, if they remained alive
        Well, in the Baltic states we at least remained alive, but were crippled like Shepelevich and Zhenya Kogan.
    7. +8
      13 July 2019 08: 39
      Quote: 210ox
      But now there is a passionate desire to break it ... when I see these "faces ..

      A similar desire And not only from this, but from the fact that our power makes a fool of us. According to the author of the article, "Television people assured the viewer that this" unique "teleconference would be completely devoid of politics, and" ordinary people "(not political scientists or experts) would become heroes." And what actually turned out: "The dialogue between Russian parties and Ukrainian parties has been curtailed. We believe that this is wrong, and in every possible way support the intentions of the Opposition Platform to resume this dialogue," Medvedev said. In the hands of the authorities are powerful means to manipulate the minds of ordinary citizens. LEV NIKOLAEVICH TOLSTOY - "The strength of the government rests on the ignorance of the people, and it knows this and therefore will always fight against enlightenment. It's time for us to understand this."
    8. +1
      13 July 2019 18: 04
      And you do not turn it on, and so look, an excellent technical product. laughing And although I am retired and not at work, but watering my plantings about a temperature of 35-40 degrees today is still a "pleasure" right now, exactly 37 degrees C. It is raining and cool all over the country, but here it is hot. But still it is better than bright yellow Malakhov
  4. +17
    13 July 2019 06: 41
    Donetsk residents at VO seem to deny "the organization of ukrofilia flash mobs" in Donbass. But from the outside it looks like the Russian Federation is kicking the people's republics back to Ukraine. And malakhovshchina is one of the technologies.
    The author gives "moral outlook" reasons. Probably, the "Russian" business "asked very much". "Closely" under sanctions.
    1. +3
      13 July 2019 09: 26
      Quote: samarin1969
      But it looks from the side that the people's republics of the Russian Federation are driving kicks back to Ukraine.

      This is actually so. The Russian Federation sees these republics as part of Ukraine as a great lever of influence on the internal situation in this country. Therefore, Ukraine does not want to see them as a federal subject in its composition.
  5. +5
    13 July 2019 07: 13
    I do not understand the current central channels of Russia. Is it propaganda or vice versa ???
  6. +24
    13 July 2019 07: 27
    "Why is there no teleconference between Donetsk-Moscow or Moscow-Lugansk?"
    And therefore, why is the best friend of GDP - Gref his Sberbank left in Ukraine, but categorically does not put him in the Crimea.
    Whose television is ours? 90% - American. Whose Sberbank? 90% - American. Whose Gazprom? 50% Western European, and the remaining 50% of shares sold to private owners (which?)
    What is the citizenship of the majority of officials and the so-called "creative intelligentsia"? Well, yes, partly double, partly not Russian at all.
    Women, shmyaby, children, relatives - transported abroad ...
    What is DNR-LNR? If it were not for the fear of becoming the next Gaddafi or Saddam Hussein, who forced to keep Russian bases in the Crimea, they would have surrendered everything!
  7. +5
    13 July 2019 07: 34
    Ganapolsky’s father in the Great Patriotic War - political commander, tanker, mentioned in the book * I fought on the T-34 *, These are the twists of fate ...
    1. +6
      13 July 2019 07: 58
      Trupchinov in general is the secretary of the Komsomol district committee ... Yes, I can tell you a lot about ukra, who is Farion - I know ... Well, this warrior for the fact that in Ukraine they spoke only in state language at one time yelled by the beluga that a foreigner came to the Union, violet, for a day or for 5 years of study - must speak Russian)
      Khokhlyatsky "leaders" have such a key of jambs, even with the priest. Kulchitsky who? Hiroi-stolen, there is already a team named after him. Where he served at the time of the collapse of the USSR - and since he is such an independent and independent patriot - why did he serve so much time in the troops of the "occupier and Akhressor", and moved to Ukraine - in his own words - when they beckoned with an extra star on the shoulder straps, this is RVACH , and not the defender of the Motherland, if the Zimbabwean Armed Forces would have thrown one more mark on him - and he would have run away
      1. +9
        13 July 2019 08: 15
        Klyachko’s future parents met when they were hiding from the Nazis who were looking for Jews in Kiev, I’m shocked! Betray everyone !!! Judah!
    2. 0
      13 July 2019 11: 58
      Children are not responsible for their parents, and vice versa.
    3. +4
      13 July 2019 13: 19
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      Ganapolsky’s father in the Great Patriotic War - political commander, tanker, mentioned in the book * I fought on the T-34 *, These are the twists of fate ...

      the fathers of Kukarevich and the redhead also heroically fought for their homeland. and these .... no words
      1. +2
        13 July 2019 13: 31
        There are words! obscene!
    4. 0
      13 July 2019 13: 36
      He got offended at someone and threw himself on the opponent's neck. And now ... And even this "Echo ..."
      Such is Ganya ...
  8. +15
    13 July 2019 07: 42
    Malakhov did not turn yellow; he was originally like that. And if people hate Chubais out of habit. Then Malakhov deserves the death penalty. under article for dehumanization ..
  9. 0
    13 July 2019 07: 45
    A lot of noise and nothing.
    The very idea of ​​communication is not bad, but was it interrupted ??? On the waves of the Internet, the shaft of communication goes, differently, but ..... Echoes fly to the layman. The loudest and not the best.
    1. 0
      13 July 2019 12: 01
      Interestingly, and all these Kovtuns at our talk shows, is that not communication with Kiev ???
      1. +4
        13 July 2019 12: 24
        In general, Kovtun and others like him are present on our TV for one single purpose. To show that the supporters of post-Maidan Ukraine are people, to put it mildly, not marked by the stamp of intelligence, and even outwardly unpleasant. And looking at them, the average Russian viewer understood that it was bad there.
        There, by the way, is really bad, but

        but not so :))))
  10. +7
    13 July 2019 07: 46
    What to talk about with Kiev? That in the DPR on the morning of July 11.07.2019, 1949, during the shelling by Ukrainian militants of a settlement Golmovsky was killed an elderly woman born in XNUMX?

    Kiev, by the way, no one shells.
    1. -4
      13 July 2019 08: 12
      Quote: asv363
      Kiev, by the way, no one shells.

      maybe because far?
      And the fact that closer, quite and constantly
      “At about 21.00 in the village of Chermalyk, a citizen of Ukraine born in 1970 was wounded during an enemy artillery fire. According to preliminary data, an enemy shell fell directly into the courtyard of a private house. Military medics of one of the units of the Joint Forces provided the victim with medical assistance and carried out the evacuation of the wounded. the man died from his injuries, "the message says.
      The day before, it was also reported that the militants fired at the agricultural enterprise "Bakhmutsky Agrarian Union" from artillery.
      It's just that there is never such news on VO
      As for the Direct Line, everyone in Ukraine understands that this is a provocation (partly the author writes about "the participants, not politicians and others") and an insinuation for the elections.
      The president has already explained everything. Calm down. And then with one message, everyone immediately received political benefits. The impression that Moscow and the nationalists at the same time.
      Why is Moscow-Lugansk not? Because Lugansk is officially Ukraine. And Donetsk too.
      And ORDILO too. All signed MS2.
      They didn’t particularly want to carry out the Moscow bridge of Grozny. Although they compare photographs of Donetsk / Lugansk with Grozny, Grozny was obviously bombed better than in WWII.
      Skype conversations were. A teleconference is an ordinary show.
      1. +2
        13 July 2019 09: 01
        Quote: Antares
        maybe because far?
        And the fact that closer, quite and constantly

        Less than 200 km from the Russian border to Kiev (past Chernigov), less than a hundred km from the border of Belarus. Why not shell? We are aggressors, it’s time to surround Kiev!
        1. -2
          13 July 2019 11: 59
          Quote: asv363
          Less than 200 km from the Russian border to Kiev (past Chernigov), less than a hundred km from the border of Belarus.

          Are you going to fire 200+ km * with weapons? Alas, this is rockets and aviation. Weapons and riflemen can no longer be fired at.
          And from the territory of Belarus friendly to us .... I will not comment
          Quote: asv363
          We are aggressors, it’s time to surround Kiev!

          if you believe our nationalists, you have long been in Kiev / Parliament / Presidential Administration / and even in the place of the presidents and oligarchs themselves ... laughing
          "Aggressor country" is a cliché. Like "Bandera"
          ORDILO as a lever of pressure on Ukraine for the sake of Crimea and the gas market. The goal is not Ukraine itself, but its behavior. Samo ORDILO is just an instrument. And I admit that Ukraine itself is also an instrument of US pressure on the EU gas market and Russia itself in its share of this market.
          Nothing personal — only a business.
          And all these Russian worlds and Ukraine are Europe ... these are just slogans for people from one country and a little different to do everything that is needed for the picture.
          Demonstrations are needed. Total war no. Expensive, long, without results.
          Unprofitable event. And the sluggish conflict with the status quo of Crimea and the gas market is quite satisfactory for now.
      2. 0
        13 July 2019 12: 48
        The day before, it was also reported that the militants fired at the agricultural enterprise "Bakhmut Agrarian Union" from artillery
        Well, who are the militants, according to your comment they are the fighters of the Lao PDR and the DPR, but how can people who fight for their independence be "militants" according to international law
        Illegal armed groups (illegal armed groups) - an armed group of people (gang, gang), a terrorist group organized without complying with applicable law, not controlled by the legitimate government.
        but the Lao PDR has a government, an armed force, and at the same time in Ukraine there are "Aydar" "volunteers" "Azov" and others not controlled by the state and wearing the emblems of Nazi Germany, but who are they? You will somehow decide first in your country, but then stigmatize others or your brains are already sharpened under the slogan "All enemies who are against us, let us stretch our eyes!"
        1. -2
          13 July 2019 13: 41
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Well, who are the militants, according to your comment they are the fighters of the Lao PDR and the DPR, but how can people who fight for their independence be "militants" according to international law

          quote from the OOS press center. I did not add or reduce the gag to her.
          Or for each quote you need to clarify who calls whom what? Information is important. I quoted a report about shelling and killing of a Ukrainian with ORDILO fire. As well as shelling of infrastructure.
          Quote: tihonmarine
          You will somehow decide first in your country, and then stigmatize others. Or your brains are already sharpened under the slogan "All enemies who are against us, we will stretch our eyes!"

          these are charges against either the press center (if you did not like what the opponents are called there)
          or to political leadership, as they call partners.
          I did not quote quotes from ordinary people.
          As for the slogans - I am also against the use - Whoever has an opinion different from us is the enemy.
          It is important that - the APU fires at peace (I agree)
          ORDILO shells the peaceful (and here only I agree - everyone else does not know about this and does not write, taboo)
          The effect of one-sided coverage of information has led to the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces "always" kill civilians and never ORDILO.
  11. +13
    13 July 2019 08: 12
    As I looked at Malakhov’s botox face and drawn eyebrows and contingent in the studio, I realized that I wouldn’t watch these shameful channels for another 10 years
  12. +5
    13 July 2019 08: 37
    I watched this "teleconference" on YouTube. True, I looked "on the run", since looking in detail is time to waste. Complete failure. Memories of elderly movie stars have never been interesting to me, and even more so in the stated format. Especially with the unpleasant host Malakhov. Outright disgusting.
    1. +2
      13 July 2019 13: 01
      When politicians are disgusting, when the "creative intelligentsia" is doubly disgusting, and when the elderly are already such words are not invented.
  13. +5
    13 July 2019 09: 25
    Just business, nothing personal. The ratings will skyrocket, the loot will spill like a cornucopia. This is about the TV channel Russia. The "ordinary people" will start taking invert, and they, with a shaking lip for the grandmother, will tell how great or how unsuccessful everything turned out (depending on the circumstances).
    1. 0
      13 July 2019 13: 04
      And all talk shows after that will begin to pour hourly soap operas on all channels (and on a simple one - to make a fool of brains).
  14. +2
    13 July 2019 09: 25
    Now, it has become clear to everyone the attitude of our state in Ukraine. We are kind of Leopold who want to live in harmony with rats that forever shit.
    So all the bravura comments about how Ukrainians will receive in which case they became funny.
    Now it is very clear what they will receive. They will receive all the best from Russia, so that after they again call it an aggressor and plunder what they presented.
    They still, through the lips of pro-Russian bloggers, dream about it.
    Personally, I am against any rapprochement with Ukraine, except on the principle that you are to me, I am to you.
    And in the face they must be beaten for the cause. They are not brothers to us. They don’t remember Ivan’s relationship.
    And to hell with them. Nobody is worried now that the Poles, being Russian Slavs, are just distant relatives.
    Well, years will pass and Ukraine will also be perceived.
    Stop pretending to be related.
    We are not one people.
    1. -1
      13 July 2019 13: 06
      We are kind of Leopold who want to live in peace with rats that forever shit
      Rather not rats, but "mangy cats"
  15. +2
    13 July 2019 09: 43
    because the Moscow-Kiev format is the Russia-Ukraine format
    and the Moscow-LDNR format is the Russia-Russia format.
    1. 0
      13 July 2019 13: 21
      because the Moscow-Kiev format is the Russia-Ukraine format
      format one - talk shows, and so they go every day. And this is presented as if at the highest level (the loot is different, much higher), but what are these bridges or bridges different from the daily "60 minutes" (at least there is a variety, "Evening with Solovyov", "Right to vote". In my opinion, nothing. Even these programs are more beautifully and theatrically staged than Malakhov's "Telemost". I judge this as a "plowman of the seas", I am not a journalist who graduated from MGMIMO, and not a politician who graduated from HPS or HSE.
  16. +1
    13 July 2019 09: 55
    And why there is no teleconference Donetsk - Moscow or Moscow - Lugansk?

    Because Lugansk and Donetsk are unrecognized entities. Therefore, Russian channels do not want to escalate the situation. And questions to Moscow may sound very not digestible.
    1. +1
      13 July 2019 13: 23
      Because Lugansk and Donetsk are unrecognized entities
      but they exist, exist and have the right to life.
    2. +2
      13 July 2019 20: 09
      Quote: Normal ok
      And why there is no teleconference Donetsk - Moscow or Moscow - Lugansk?

      Because Lugansk and Donetsk are unrecognized entities. Therefore, Russian channels do not want to escalate the situation. And questions to Moscow may sound very not digestible.

      And who recognized the formation of the Crimea?
      Even Gref does not recognize and keeps his Sberbank away :-)
  17. +1
    13 July 2019 10: 02
    Passions continue to boil.

    In Kiev, the building of the TV channel "112. Ukraine"
    and the owner of this channel is Viktor Medvedchuk’s business partner Taras Kozak
    1. 0
      13 July 2019 12: 01
      Quote: Motivatornick
      and the owner of this channel is Viktor Medvedchuk’s business partner Taras Kozak

      Before that, it didn’t interfere. But then Stone’s film about Ukraine was announced and a shot was fired.
      So to say a warning. The second card showed Lutsenko.
      Let's see if the removal from the field.
  18. +7
    13 July 2019 10: 10
    Only due to the fact that our country was represented by a second-hand vulture, pulled out of his usual cesspool, eternally emitting and with a mean smile of a man from the Malakhov tavern, did not watch this "masterpiece" of our (no, of course) TV, it is not clear who and why drags by the ears of those types who, because of their meanness and wretchedness, are kicked out of other studios, and pushes them onto the screens. And in general, our TV already raises more questions, and is it ours, too, a question, the first one is so unambiguously anti-Russian and Russophobic, the RTR is liberal-feminist and vehemently anti-Soviet, where between endless advertisements there are occasionally fragments of programs with an anti-Soviet orientation or fragments of endless series about the sophisticated revenge of women offended by "vile" men, moreover, according to the scenarios of fading ladies with a failed personal life, and with a plot like a blueprint with small nuances, poor level of teenagers' dialogues, with a complete lack of logic of action and knowledge of at least some basics psychology of the opposite sex. And TV in general has become the level of Nigeria (I saw it, so there is something to compare), blatota, nepotism and loot, and most importantly the absence of a level of control and demand from the state, did their job in the complete degradation of creativity and contempt for the audience, with fabulous income it is not clear for what such " masterpieces ", at the expense of taxpayers. In general, with the degradation of the state and society as a whole, this is a natural process, it is just in plain sight and clearly visible if the state has withdrawn itself from the management and control of this powerful propaganda tool (as well as from everything in country), then there will always be someone who will govern it and whose ideology and whose interests will represent. in the conditions of the war of destruction being waged against us, this already looks more like direct sabotage and surrender of our interests to the hostile side. This is my personal opinion, a simple layman.
    1. -1
      13 July 2019 12: 04
      Quote: seacap
      if the state has removed itself from the management and control of this powerful propaganda tool (as well as from everything in the country), then there will always be someone who will manage it and whose ideology and whose interests it will represent

      if there is no unifying idea, then the idea of ​​money is quite suitable for everyone. So she will be cultivated on TV. Well, our natural needs to eat and multiply.
      Since there are no ideas to colonize Mars, the lunar station and other things in the whole society, there will be no need to study astrophysics instead of girls.
      .Tb. in the context of the war of extermination against us, it already looks more like a direct sabotage and surrender of our interests to the enemy side

      it is not always the efforts of "enemies".
      Usually this is just making money. The interests of the country and the future are not converted into dollars here and now. The interests of the people in power does not hurt and does not interfere. On the contrary, everything is the case. People require food and entertainment.
      So it turns out
      "Bread and circuses in a besieged fortress"
      and since this is our request, because we (collectively) look at THIS, provide ratings and investments, then we "want" it.
      We will not look, there will be no energy to do this.
  19. +1
    13 July 2019 11: 31
    Because Russian officials do not separate the Ordlo from Ukraine ... and this is their official position many times expressed ..
  20. +7
    13 July 2019 11: 35
    Malakhov is a scavenger, but with what kind of malice did Sittel lure into this gadyushnik? recourse
  21. 0
    13 July 2019 13: 33
    TV people love "direct lines" - now with Mr. Putin, now with Kiev, now with someone just as interesting and responsible for their words.

    And then ratings consider and reveal their steady growth.
  22. 0
    13 July 2019 13: 59
    it would be better to take and not recognize the junta government in Moscow. just don’t remember whether it was or not
  23. +1
    13 July 2019 14: 27
    Family. and some acquaintances did not want to watch this program because of Malakhov’s participation in it. and no politics ...
  24. +2
    13 July 2019 14: 29
    Take Malakhov away and you will be forgiven!
  25. +1
    13 July 2019 15: 33
    In this teleconference all my Russia was displayed. The proposal to "be friends with the fascists" does not suit me. The dumbest half-dead TV show.
  26. 0
    13 July 2019 17: 06
    Donbass, I am afraid, will have many questions ...

    After what has been going on there since the age of 14, the teleconference is one of the least problems
  27. 0
    13 July 2019 17: 25
    Quote: machinistvl
    As for the products from LDNR, I live on the border with LDNR, and illegally they constantly bring food and alcohol to us. Everything is of very good quality, and the price is acceptable for everyone. The question is, why is it impossible to import all this officially?

    In Russia, his capitalist sits on an alkagol. Well, why would he give back the LDNR product market? Only if you change the power from oligarchic to social, you can see a more equitable approach to the distribution of the market.
  28. 0
    13 July 2019 18: 04
    And it’s nothing that every day on almost all channels this bridge passes, only it is called differently. You can only hear the boorish attitude of Ukrainian political scientists towards the Russian Federation and notice that almost no one shuts them up and the constant demand to withdraw Russian troops from the Donbass. What other teleconference is needed? You’ll call Makarevich from Russia! ...
  29. -3
    13 July 2019 20: 05
    The katals have the expression "half roll". That is, win everything, and then lose half back.
    And she endured calmed down and rolled with income.
    Before talking, you need to return everything to March 2014.
    Vova is haunted by his St. Petersburg youth in the gateway.
    What to talk about?
  30. +1
    14 July 2019 05: 50
    The phrase touches, as well as various stars. Which, according to the established tradition, will get in with their terribly correct opinion, interrupt and crush ordinary people asking questions and answering, with their authority in quotation marks.
  31. 0
    14 July 2019 23: 02
    Quote: tihonmarine
    And, as you know, in the end, only the Red Army had experience in eliminating Nazi evil. Not the Moscow-Berlin radio bridge, not just another human rights activist, politician or writer, but the Red Army.
    Talking with Kiev is a conversation between the dumb and the deaf (Look blind, said the dumb how the legless man would run).


    On a curve winding road
    Right across the river straight
    We went to the deeds of u_r_oda,
    A wheelless truck raced.

    One armless man was driving
    And the legless stinger on the brakes,
    The blind man showed them the way
    Frantic signals.

    Then a gang jumped out of the forest -
    The truck had to be stopped.
    Something here whispered to the mute deaf,
    And the armless one took his shotgun.

    There were shots of a blind man
    And a few bandits fell.
    The rest fled in fear
    And the footless began to catch.

    Here, from childhood, your words inspired. laughing
  32. 0
    17 July 2019 14: 08
    Here, many write about the USSR and Stalin. But it is precisely Stalin and Lenin who created the state of Ukraine. And the first Ukrainization was carried out by Stalin in the 20s