Elektromototsikl "Izh-Pulsar"

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One of the novelties of the Army-2019 military-technical forum held at the end of June was the civilian lightweight version of the Izhevsk electromotor motorcycle Izh-Pulsar. The new version of the serial electric motorcycle, intended for operation in the city, was developed on the basis of the version for the Ministry of Defense of Russia, which was first shown to the public in 2017 year. The new motorcycle from Izhevsk is distinguished by the presence of a lightweight battery of larger capacity and a new, improved frame geometry. In general, the ergonomics of the model “Izh-Pulsar” has become better, the motorcycle has received an effective brake system and adjustable suspension.


Submitted civilian version of the motorcycle "Izh-Pulsar"




“Izh-Pulsar” and its capabilities


For the first time, the public got acquainted with the new Izhevsk motorcycle in August 2017. The premiere also came at the military-technical forum "Army". The motorcycle has the following main characteristics: the maximum travel speed is limited to 100 km / h, the cruising range is about 150 kilometers. The heart of the motorcycle is a Chinese-made brushless DC motor; the motor develops a maximum power of 15 kW (20 hp). When charging, the motor of an electric motor consumes only 10 kW / h of electricity. According to the calculations of the developers in comparison with motorcycles equipped with gasoline engines, Izh-Pulsar costs the owner about 12 times cheaper.

The Kalashnikov Concern emphasizes that the creation of the new Izh in the capital of Udmurtia was thought from the very moment the motorcycle production was closed in 2008. Directly on the Pulsar model in Izhevsk, 2016 began working in December. In this case, the bet was immediately made on a model with an electric motor, since it is for such a technique the future. The main global trend of all recent years is electric motors and electric cars, everyone is trying to switch to electricity. According to experts of the concern, sooner or later, Europe will come to the conclusion that all internal combustion engines will be banned at the legislative level, this may happen in the near future - over 10-15 years. That is why creating a new motorcycle "Izh" with a gasoline engine was meaningless from all points of view: both financial and technological.

The advantages of electric motorcycles are obvious and it is not only that they do not harm the ecology of our planet. First of all, it is cheapness of their operation. According to the developers, each kilometer of the motorcycle “Pulsar” turns out to be cheaper in 10-15 than on a motorcycle with an engine. Given the rise in fuel prices, this is all the more relevant. In this case, full charging of the electric motor will cost less than 50 rubles. In addition, such equipment is seriously cheaper to maintain, as the standard maintenance of any motorcycle is the replacement of filters and oil, and the Izh-Pulsar has neither one nor the other.



At the same time, in Izhevsk, they especially emphasize that they were developing a new motorcycle with an eye to the whole country and driving not on the best, “non-Moscow” roads, which prevail throughout Russia. It is difficult to argue with this, given that initially the motorcycle was developed specifically for the Ministry of Defense and law enforcement agencies. On the rollers of the Kalashnikov Concern one can see how the Pulsary confidently plow snow-covered dirt roads. In the process of developing the bike was improved, so the new versions are different from the one that was presented in the spring of 2017, they received a modified weight distribution, a stiffer suspension and many other new elements.

Motorcycle "Izh-Pulsar" is completed with the original power plant. The heart of the model is the Chinese brushless DC motor manufactured by Golden Motor, which develops the maximum power of 15 kW (20 hp). In the future, “Kalashnikov” expects to switch to a domestic-made electric motor, which is currently being worked on. In certification of the new Izhevsk motorcycle, three types of traction batteries are indicated at once: lithium-ion, lithium-polymer, and lithium-ferrophosphate. One main battery of batteries is installed above the engine, one or two batteries can be placed in specially designed cases for this. The capacity of the main battery can reach 38-100 Ah, auxiliary batteries can range from 20 to 30 Ah. The total battery capacity can reach 160 A • h, and the motorcycle range according to the OTTS (Vehicle Type Approval in Rosstandart) can range from 50 to 250 kilometers. The special purpose versions for the needs of the army, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, the Federal Security Service, the Interior Ministry, the National Guard, the Ministry of Justice, etc. are registered in the OTTS. and civilian version. A special version of the Izh-Pulsar motorcycle can be additionally equipped with safety arcs, flashing beacons, side and rear trunks, and a boot. It is for this reason, and also because of the different battery options, that the curb weight of an electric motor varies from 165 to 245 kg, and the allowed total mass of the Pulsar is from 300 to 320 kg.

Do the Izhevsk motorcycle stick to “Chinese ears”


In the popular Russian edition of AvtoReview, even in 2018, they expressed some skepticism about the Izhevsk news. In the publication, they doubted that we had before us the own development of the Kalashnikov Concern, a motorcycle entirely of Russian origin. Indeed, the production of motorcycles in Izhevsk was completely curtailed back in 2008, and all the equipment was sold out. At the same time, Izh-Pulsar looks very similar to the Irbis TTR250 off-road gasoline motorcycles on the Russian market. Under this designation in our country are sold motorcycles Bashan BS250, which are assembled in Chongqing, China.


Irbis TTR250


The Kalashnikov Concern is following the reaction of the media to their new products, so they could not miss such comparisons. After the demonstration of the first version of the new motorcycle, there really appeared many comparisons and statements about the external similarity of the Pulsar to the Irbis TTR250 motorcycle. The concern believes that such comparisons are primarily related to the fact that in Izhevsk they used headlights from the same manufacturer as on the Irbis. In the rest, motorcycle developers note, it is not very clear why the Russian press noticed similarities with “Irbis”, and not, for example, with Yamaha motorcycles. The concern believes that it is at least strange to talk about some kind of external similarity of models.

In this case, the main element of the motorcycle "Pulsar" is really Chinese-made. The concern notes that the current version of the Chinese engine, he gave the developers a set of characteristics. Currently, work is underway to create its own electric motor for the "Pulsar". The first models have already reached the stage of testing, so that in the future, new Izh motorcycles will receive Russian engines, which will help to abandon the use of the Chinese engine.

Motorcycles "Izh-Pulsar" are already exploited by the police


Back in June of last year, the Kalashnikov Concern gave 30 the first electric motor Izh-Pulsar to a Moscow policeman. All motorcycles went to work in the Department of Transport and the development of road and transport infrastructure in Moscow. New models of motorcycles were widely used during the patrol of city streets and forest parks of the capital during the World Cup in Russia.




They master new Izhevsk motorcycles and representatives of the Russian military police. So in April 2019, the first 4 of the Izh-Pulsar electric motorcycle, issued by the Kalashnikov Concern, were transferred to the AIA (Military Automobile Inspection) of the city of Moscow. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, by the end of the 2019 of the year, the Moscow Aviation Inspectorate will purchase more 16 electric motorcycles made in Izhevsk. It is already known that after the generalization and comprehensive analysis of the experience of using the first VAI subdivision on electric motorcycles in Moscow, it is planned to form our own motorcycle divisions as early as in the 16 VAI.

The VAI notes that new motorcycles are excellent for creating mobile rapid response teams, driving to road accidents within the city, as well as monitoring compliance with traffic rules and ensuring road safety when moving military vehicles in urban environments. The military department especially emphasizes the relevance of motor transport in cities with high intensity and high traffic density, which, of course, includes Moscow and other Russian millionaire cities. Indeed, an electric motorcycle is a type of transport that feels more confident in the city traffic, a motorcycle is able to go where an ordinary car does not pass, and can successfully make its way through even many kilometers of traffic jams.

Civilian version of the electric motor "Izh-Pulsar" in photos

















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  1. +4
    10 July 2019 18: 15
    And they kept silent about the price !? How much will the civilian version cost, and when will it appear in stores?
    1. +15
      10 July 2019 18: 25
      I googled here .... hmmm m civilian version 590 thousand rubles .... and this is not a joke
      1. +10
        10 July 2019 18: 37
        Yesterday I bought a Volkswagen Polo for 690 (basic equipment), a new one in the passenger compartment ... this is a car from a good manufacturer with well-established service and an excellent reputation for the entire brand, very reliable ... and elektroIzh is a pig in a bag, at least for now
      2. +10
        10 July 2019 20: 15
        The new version of the serial electric motorcycle designed for operation in the city was developed on the basis of the version for the Ministry of Defense of Russia, which was first shown to the public in 2017. The new motorcycle from Izhevsk is characterized by the presence of a lightweight battery with a larger capacity and a new, improved frame geometry. In general, the ergonomics of the Izh-Pulsar model got better, the motorcycle received an effective brake system and an adjustable suspension.

        Well, at least it doesn’t have any analogues in the world? what
      3. +7
        10 July 2019 22: 21
        More like a joke. For the money no one will lead. Rather sharpened on a drank state order than on sales
        1. +1
          11 July 2019 21: 05
          Quote: evgic
          More like a joke. For the money no one will lead. Rather sharpened on a drank state order than on sales

          Now electric scooters are more serious.
      4. +4
        11 July 2019 02: 17
        Quote: Clever man
        the civilian version of 590 thousand rubles .... and this is not a joke


        And you google, how much and under what conditions the same 30 electric bikes for the police were planted in Moscow, you will be even more surprised.
      5. +4
        11 July 2019 07: 37
        The Urals are already worth a million. Motorcycle. Nonsense!
        1. +2
          11 July 2019 14: 14
          Harley-Davidson CVO 3600000r nightmare yes)))
          1. 0
            11 July 2019 15: 04
            Quote: loki565
            Harley-Davidson
            HD is known everywhere, but the heir of the ancient BMW?
            1. +2
              11 July 2019 15: 07
              Well, since it is produced mainly in the US market, it means they know for sure)))
              1. 0
                11 July 2019 15: 12
                Quote: loki565
                then they know for sure
                Or a military bike for the poor?
                1. +2
                  11 July 2019 15: 28
                  Something they have for the poor, we have LLCO HORROR RASPILLLL))))
                2. +3
                  11 July 2019 21: 06
                  Quote: Simargl
                  Quote: loki565
                  then they know for sure
                  Or a military bike for the poor?

                  Wheelchair driven. There it is a wonder.
        2. +3
          11 July 2019 14: 20
          The Urals is now a screwdriver manual assembly of imported components, focused on American and European bikers. From there and the price.
      6. +2
        11 July 2019 14: 22
        Why are you surprised ??? Now the electric scooter already reaches 70 thousand rubles)))
      7. 0
        12 July 2019 11: 57
        For 590 thousand you can buy something like this: 6 kW with a ridiculous power reserve. And 15-17 kW electric bikes cost a million.

        IL on the background of this looks very attractive.
      8. 0
        13 July 2019 00: 07
        Quote: Clever man
        I googled here .... hmmm m civilian version 590 thousand rubles .... and this is not a joke

        Something seems to me that the same Chinese (only better in quality and design) will cost exactly 10 times cheaper.
      9. 0
        24 July 2019 23: 51
        And what a joke, a normal electric bike costs from 240tyr to a lama :)
    2. +10
      10 July 2019 18: 27
      590 thousand for the battery and electric motor))))) hahaha saw the saw, saw, the denis of manturo padi helped with the project)
      1. 0
        16 July 2019 17: 05
        I'm in the garage with men to cook twice as cheap and no worse.
        1. 0
          24 July 2019 23: 52
          And I’ll kill myself ... laughing
        2. -3
          17 August 2019 15: 09
          I myself am my own without men ... I am preparing myself mentally .. I'll take the Honda Goldwing next summer ...
    3. +1
      10 July 2019 20: 03
      It’s bad that there is no carriage.
      1. +3
        10 July 2019 20: 16
        Quote: vkl.47
        It’s bad that there is no carriage.

        for such grandmas ??? Yes there is a jacuzzi, TV, and chicks should be! (I apologize to the young ladies with VO ... feel
        1. 0
          13 July 2019 12: 17
          Nah. I don’t need a jacuzzi. A carriage in the subject. I love motocycles with carriages.
  2. 0
    10 July 2019 18: 19
    Licking rights to him was not necessary
    1. KCA
      +1
      10 July 2019 18: 39
      According to existing rules, all scooters are now needed, and this one above 4 kW needs rights A or A1, I won’t say for sure
  3. 0
    10 July 2019 18: 28
    At "Army - 2017" Kalashnikov presented this IL.
    Within the framework of the Army-2017 International Military-Technical Forum, which took place at the Patriot exhibition center in the city of Kubinka, the Kalashnikov concern, in addition to the already well-known electric motorcycles, showed the first prototypes of bikes for the presidential Cortege project.

    When will we see him in the presidential motorcade? It’s time already.)))))
    1. -2
      10 July 2019 18: 30
      What can’t you do for the show off for folk money
    2. +2
      10 July 2019 20: 18
      directly Cherdomyrdin rebelled: "it never happened, and now again ...." laughing
    3. The comment was deleted.
  4. +3
    10 July 2019 18: 31
    At the same time, the main element of the Pulsar motorcycle is really Chinese-made


    The rest of the "water and advertising" - got it already with advertising slogans and nonsense.
    P / S Rostov-on-Don - electric scooter, 10 km after a night of charging, 18-20 thousand rubles.
    On the prices of this pseudo-great motorcycle for the needs of the military, guess for yourself.
    1. +2
      10 July 2019 20: 04
      Quote: Beholder
      10 km of run after a night of charging, 18-20 thousand rubles.

      For the military, this is unacceptable. Charging too long and battery capacity too low
      And put an adequate battery and engine - the price will be several times higher than you specified
    2. 0
      11 July 2019 14: 34
      cheap, electric scooter Alligator Electric Scooter 26Ah costs 70 thousand. rub. 3200W Powerful Electric Scooter Off Road Skateboard 120k moreover, they are designed mainly for city driving, on asphalt
  5. +8
    10 July 2019 18: 36
    The heart of the motorcycle is a Chinese-made brushless DC motor, the engine develops a maximum power of 15 kW (20 hp). When charging, the engine of the electric motorcycle consumes only 10 kW / h of electricity

    Either the author, or the Chinese invented the perpetum of the mobile: the power given exceeds the consumed.
    This thought confirms
    The total battery capacity can reach up to 160 Ah • and the range of the motorcycle ... from 50 to 250 kilometers.
    i.e. 0,64 A per kilometer !!! (at a voltage of 12v- 7.68W / km
    The human mind has its limits, while human stupidity is infinite.
    Alexander Dumas (son)
    1. 0
      10 July 2019 18: 56
      "Dilettante", but you are not an amateur. The performance characteristics of this "miracle" motorcycle was also udevlen.
      1. 0
        10 July 2019 20: 29
        The main global trend of all recent years is electric motors and electric cars, everyone is trying to switch to electricity. According to experts of the concern, sooner or later Europe will come to the conclusion that all internal combustion engines will be banned at the legislative level, this can happen in the near future - within 10-15 years. That is why creating a new Izh motorcycle with a gasoline engine was pointless from all points of view: both financially and technologically.

        Yeah, right now, they’ll cross over and will generate electricity for cars and motorbikes with coal or gas TPPs or TPPs, with an efficiency of about 40% polluting the environment much more than ICEs, and they will also need to be built a lot, as existing ones will not have enough power! TALES from Ilona and the marketing move!
        1. 0
          10 July 2019 23: 51
          The efficiency of a gasoline engine in an automobile is even less than that of a power unit at a thermal power plant - something around 25 percent.
          and emissions in the car in your face, not in the atmosphere at high altitude, like at a thermal power plant
          1. 0
            11 July 2019 09: 21
            Quote: Avior
            The efficiency of a gasoline engine in an automobile is even less than that of a power unit at a thermal power plant - something around 25 percent.
            and emissions in the car in your face, not in the atmosphere at high altitude, like at a thermal power plant

            Nobody argues with engine efficiency! But the capacities of already existing stations are ALREADY lacking, the West refuses from atomic (the most harmless), plus losses from transmission from stations to gas stations, in short, this is nonsense, or that’s what it is. There was a speech by the director of the Kurchatov Institute in the Solovyov program there, he explained it on his fingers, showing that it was a profanity, google it in YouTube.
          2. 0
            8 August 2019 09: 47
            Quote: Avior
            to the atmosphere at high altitude

            Natural science. The water cycle in nature. "And emissions in the car in your face" - and on your head from thermal power plants (especially coal).
            Some German institute conducted a study - pollution during the production and disposal of electric vehicle components, as well as emissions into the atmosphere during electric energy production (average = nuclear power plants, thermal power plants, hydro-wind-solar energy today) for battery charge, exceed environmental pollution environment from the car from the beginning of production + operation + utilization + fuel production. I listened to the radio broadcast, a long time ago, so I can’t give a link.
            1. -1
              8 August 2019 10: 44
              Compare the amount of emissions on average across the country and in the city center per unit area, and you will understand how the concentration of harmful substances can differ.
              In Yalta, there is a site near Lenin Square, where the busy road passes and in the days of the influx of people you understand the difference between the release of a thermal power plant somewhere in Smferopol and when you have an exhaust in your face.
              Is German scientists like British?
              Emissions from the solar and wind stations found?
              1. 0
                8 August 2019 11: 23
                Quote: Avior
                Emissions from the solar and wind stations found?

                Average emissions from energy production by ALL species.
                Do not confuse Yalta with Beijing laughing And ask those who live next to the ash dumps and the wind rose from the CHP - which is better gasoline or coal?
                PS Simferopol TPP gas turbine.
                1. 0
                  8 August 2019 11: 30
                  And what is gas turbine? Doesn't it produce electricity?
                  The height of the pipes of thermal power plants is 300 meters and higher; it is dispersed over a large area.
                  The efficiency of a large power unit is 40 percent, of an engine of 25-30 at best, or even less.
                  There are also new combustion technologies for coal, for example fluidized bed furnaces and others, with minimization of emissions.
                2. 0
                  9 August 2019 07: 15
                  It seems to me that you mistakenly believe that the spread of electric vehicles affects the number and installed capacity of power plants.
                  In fact, it does not affect in any way, they were and will be for other purposes.
                  But at night they are very underutilized, which reduces efficiency and increases emissions.
                  And the spread of electric vehicles with predominantly charging them at night allows you to increase the efficiency of power plants and reduce emissions by balancing the load on them
        2. +3
          13 July 2019 00: 17
          Quote: neri73-r
          The main global trend of all recent years is electric motors and electric cars, everyone is trying to switch to electricity.

          This is all nonsense. Never presented "miracle" from the future will be better than this one from the past.



          After all, they once knew how to do things in Izhevsk. And now they shredded, degenerated by hands and degraded by the brain.
        3. -3
          17 August 2019 14: 09
          Are you talking about the logic of Europastan? With the coming to power of millionaires, the laws of physics will increasingly be canceled at all levels. Including legislative. The lack of a full-fledged education and belief in the all-pervading "Elon Masks" is the main engine of their progress.
    2. -3
      10 July 2019 20: 10
      Quote: Amateur
      Either the author, or the Chinese invented the perpetum of the mobile: the power given exceeds the consumed.

      The power of flash units in a pulse can reach hundreds of kilowatts, and they are powered by batteries, wonders.
    3. 0
      10 July 2019 21: 09
      Where did you get the 12th c. On electric cycles, the power is 36 - 72 volts.
    4. 0
      10 July 2019 23: 02
      There is a voltage of at least 50 V. And the cost of a kilometer is not 12, but 6 times lower. By the way, I managed to lower the cost of a kilometer on my homemade electric bike by 10 times compared to a moped. And an EV with a 500 W engine cost 30 ty., And a moped costs 30% more. Heavier constructions for some reason become less energetically and financially profitable.
      1. -1
        10 July 2019 23: 50
        Heavier constructions for some reason become less energetically and financially profitable.

        it is logical. the ratio between the payload and weight for a bicycle is much better than for a moped or a car. The price issue is comfort and reliability.
        Was the motor wheel inserted into the front hub? Is it comfortable to drive with a front wheel drive?
        1. 0
          11 July 2019 12: 12
          I thought about the place of the wheel and put it in the back. This allows you to use front shock absorbers in normal mode, eliminates the front skid when starting, uphill and on slippery surfaces. After all, the front wheel is often the cause of the fall. The guys say that sometimes the front does not pull uphill at all.
          1. 0
            14 July 2019 06: 11
            But what about the brake in the rear hub? or did you change the whole wheel?
            I just saw how in the front they change the hub and spokes, but everything is clear there, there was no brake. A ride - with the front driving feel of the trip so-so.
    5. 0
      10 July 2019 23: 46
      No, with perpetum mobile there everything is all right.
      if the capacity is 160 Ah * and the stored energy is 10 kW * h, then the voltage is about 60 V.
      if the actual stored energy, taking into account the efficiency, is less, for example, if the charge efficiency is 0,8, then the voltage is about 50 V.
      you need to divide the energy into the capacitance to get the voltage.
      that is, for a 100 km path, energy consumption is about 5-6 kW * h, this is a normal figure for a motorcycle, for electric vehicles more than 15-20 kW * h.
      Engine power of 25 kW is the maximum, it is achieved only for a short time, the nominal is 2-3 times less, as a rule.
    6. 0
      11 July 2019 02: 23
      Quote: Amateur
      Either the author, or the Chinese invented the perpetum of the mobile: the power given exceeds the consumed.

      This author did not understand why there is "10 kWh of electricity". Apparently, it was about an energy consumption of 10 kWh
  6. +4
    10 July 2019 19: 29
    I looked at the welds of the frame in the photo and everything became clear with the level of production. 590 000 rubles for this ?? God, what a squalor ...
    1. -2
      10 July 2019 19: 52
      Well saved on grinding.
    2. +1
      15 July 2019 17: 37
      Seams are like seams. It can be seen that cooked to the conscience, and not anyhow.
      Another thing is interesting to me - are the frames still processed with "Izhanite"?
  7. +2
    10 July 2019 20: 00
    Very homely option. To grandmother for pancakes, for 300 miles, you can’t go on it anymore. a couple of times somewhere you need to recharge. Well, if the battery does not die in the middle of the forest, then push this miracle for half a million to the nearest household outlet. request
    1. +6
      10 July 2019 20: 12
      I’d better buy a 40 year old JAVA, legend!
    2. +1
      13 July 2019 00: 21
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Well, if the battery does not die in the middle of the forest

      It is contraindicated to travel outside the city asphalt on this pepelats. And you about the forest ...
      1. 0
        14 July 2019 17: 49
        Quote: Gritsa
        It is contraindicated to travel outside the city asphalt on this pepelats. And you about the forest ...

        So I wrote about the same ... when I originally indicated - "A very home option" hi
  8. +4
    10 July 2019 20: 40
    Here's a Chinese Super Soco TC up to 70 km / h, up to 160 km on two lithium batteries with a 3 kW Bosch motor. It costs a mere mortal 2990 euros.

    Expensive? Yes, expensive ...

    I bought my father - he goes for mushrooms.

    Looks like a mosquito, huh?



    https://ru.e-scooter.co/super-soco-tc/
    1. -1
      11 July 2019 02: 02
      Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub
      Yes, expensive ...


      Yes, expensive, and also stupid.

      Its energy is purely moped, its weight is like that of a pit bike (probably, most of the mechanics are pit bike), but it is made like a road builder. Well, a power reserve of 160 km with a battery capacity of 3.6 kWh and such a mass is purely Chinese haha. Although the price of these batteries is far from haha. Another consumable.

      A decent Chinese moped with the same energy and capacity of 2 batteries should weigh 2 times less and cost 2 times less. And 100km really has to go if you go somewhere on a thread at 50 km / h. And he really crawls everywhere. And where it does not crawl, you can drag it to the hump. In addition, pedal versions mow under great, which is also a big plus in all respects.

      In short, if the electropaedist is correctly made, the thing is really good. If you do not think about batteries. And the most unpleasant thing about them is not even the price. The problem is that they sometimes ignite spontaneously and burn very famously. Whoever, but personally the prospect of burning a garage in the country is not too inspiring for me ...

      So, "buy" it is better for the father of category A and that a thread like "ebrika" (inexpensive Yamaha is). And the garage will be more intact, and much more sense, and pleasure. Well, if you don't pull him into category A, then it's better not to ride moped at all.
      1. +2
        11 July 2019 10: 36
        Why are you clinging to batteries? You don’t have enough life to develop LiFePo resource, even charging them a couple of times a day bully To set fire is also a problem. Kill mechanically - torment laughing But yes, they will need not two assemblies, but four in comparison with lithium-ion ones.
        1. 0
          11 July 2019 19: 42
          Quote: vadimtt
          But yes, they will need not two assemblies, but four in comparison with lithium-ion ones.


          Duc, the fact of the matter is that lithium ferrum is 2 times heavier and 1.5 times more expensive than lithium-ion. Even if you have enough money, you’ll be tormented. So, not an option.

          Lithium-ion "flooded" in the topic of electric transport only after they reached a certain technical and economic level. The lithium ferrum has a much narrower niche in this regard. For mopeds and motorcycles, it is clearly heavy.

          Are we talking about electric bikes?
          1. +1
            12 July 2019 07: 32
            I hope that technology does not stand still. In addition, LiFe still has reserves, for 5 years they can lose 20-30%. I will take electric vehicles only on unkillable batteries. Although, in the world of victorious consumerism, lithium ionists fit well - for 3-4 years I traveled to a new pepelats. It is a pity that everything is not easy with the processing of lithium-ion batteries.
    2. +1
      8 August 2019 10: 00
      Yeah ... S @ co - Imechko doesn’t have much. But you know what to call on occasion laughing
      Cute S @ co. The charge from the outlet for how long, and what bells and whistles are needed for this? How much time and how intensively do you operate (mileage / hours)? Rider weight?
      1. +1
        8 August 2019 10: 30
        6-7 hours full charge, the adapter is included. You can remove the battery and charge it, or you can connect the moped directly to a regular outlet. I traveled 30 km and about 70% remained in the battery.

        He told the baht that he would charge immediately after any trip.

        Dad at home in the hallway stores him on the 1st floor. While at the age of 60 with a ponytail drags these 6 steps here and there. I tell him - do not remove the battery. Give gas and the moped will climb the stairs. He is clean, electric.

        Dad weighs 100 kilograms, I think - a healthy man. A moped with a passport will carry 150 kg.
        1. +1
          8 August 2019 11: 03
          Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub
          6-7 hours full charge, the adapter is included.

          Thanks for the detailed answer. drinks
  9. +3
    11 July 2019 00: 02
    In the commentary under this article, they laugh at Izh and blame him. Other articles write about, “electric combat vehicles,” and commentators have steam from their ears. Izh understood dear. The army needs equipment, "omnivorous," - from fuel oil to kerosene (everything that burns and is not very). And on ,, citizen, you need a scooter with such an electric motor (and at a price within +/- 50 ... 55 000)
    1. 0
      11 July 2019 14: 39
      Now a good 70k electric scooter costs, so it won’t fit in that price
      1. 0
        13 July 2019 00: 33
        Quote: loki565
        Now a good 70k electric scooter costs, so it won’t fit in that price

        more smile hi
    2. 0
      13 July 2019 00: 24
      Quote: cat Rusich
      And on ,, citizen ,, need a scooter

      Interestingly, are scooters now preserved as a class or extinct like dinosaurs?
  10. +2
    11 July 2019 00: 38
    "They're not fighting in a single-breasted one now!" The main global trend of all recent years is electric motors and electric cars, everyone is trying to switch to electricity. According to experts of the concern, sooner or later, Europe will come to the conclusion that all internal combustion engines will be banned at the legislative level, this may happen in the near future - over 10-15 years. So now, sho ... in the near future, "Kalashnikov" will start developing an electric armored personnel carrier, an electric BMP and an electric OBT?
    1. 0
      11 July 2019 00: 58
      electro BRT is

      https://topwar.ru/98078-novosti-proekta-bronetransportera-s-gibridnoy-silovoy-ustanovkoy-krymsk.html
      1. 0
        11 July 2019 04: 58
        Duc, it's still a "hybrid", not, pure, "electro ...."! But, by and large, it will do! The main thing is to start ... hi
  11. 0
    11 July 2019 07: 32
    The right move is to create monocups - cross, ring .... and test in sports.
  12. +2
    11 July 2019 07: 36
    "brushless dc motor "
    The motor is called brushless or valveless.
  13. +1
    11 July 2019 09: 35
    Is this some kind of feature from the editorial board, to break all the articles into pieces? Then come up with a name for each piece and highlight it all in bold, but more)
  14. 0
    11 July 2019 09: 36
    Our rear wheel motors are of our design. Why Chinese?
  15. 0
    11 July 2019 09: 59
    With such prices they will ride those who made them ....
  16. kig
    -1
    11 July 2019 12: 16
    In China, a huge number of electric scooters charged from a home outlet. And the price, I suspect, is ten times less than this miracle of the military-industrial complex.
    1. kig
      0
      28 August 2019 06: 20
      oh, wrong, not 10 times but five only
      https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32921247784.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.12bc61c6UjzFZK&algo_pvid=bb030eeb-3b07-43a9-b386-daa20e73e7e8&algo_expid=bb030eeb-3b07-43a9-b386-daa20e73e7e8-28&btsid=ec9319d7-8222-41ff-85df-50452708a1c7&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1,searchweb201603_60
  17. 0
    11 July 2019 14: 54
    Quote: Clever man
    I googled here .... hmmm m civilian version 590 thousand rubles .... and this is not a joke

    Well, do not fuck yourself! You can buy a good car.
    And they consider it an achievement? In any motorcycle magazine, they borrowed design, put the Chinese engine and other parts in and out! You can even offer the military, they are rich! hi
  18. 0
    11 July 2019 16: 15
    For the military, it would be better with a conventional ICE. With only two silencers, one is very quiet for sneaking, the second is normal, or even resonant. IMHO
  19. 0
    13 July 2019 00: 05
    This is some kind of shame. The photo shows how the steel pipes of the frame are unevenly and dirty welded. And the manufacturer did not even have the mind to cover these pipes with some sort of plastic overlays. Idiocy. This is not a tractor, but urban transport.
  20. 0
    14 July 2019 01: 36
    No need to laugh at this motorcycle, in Russia they know how to make motorcycles.
    When everyone began to change cars, the demand for motorcycles fell, motorcycle production became unprofitable due to low sales volumes, so production was reoriented to other products.

    It seems that now they are trying to revive the production of motorcycles, if the Ministry of Defense orders a large batch, then with this money it will be possible to organize mass production. In general, looking for investors.
  21. 0
    14 July 2019 15: 41
    I also want to point out that electric motorcycles are a bad object for a startup, these are very expensive vehicles, even with a conveyor assembly they will not be cheaper than 200 rubles.

    But electric bikes are a more successful object for a startup. For 50 rubles. many could buy for themselves. That is, with conveyor assembly, you can profit as opposed to motorcycle production.

    And the military would not hurt, as silent.
  22. 0
    5 August 2019 12: 13
    The psychological threshold for such a motorcycle is $ 3000-4000. They won’t buy more.
  23. 0
    28 August 2019 23: 33
    It is not clear why the manufacturer does not put normal wings (mudguards) on the wheels?
    With such as it is, in wet weather, the driver’s back is always in the mud - this is elementary known in practice. Yes, and the bottom of the front is also splattered ...
  24. 0
    15 May 2020 16: 15
    Oh, nafik, for such a price I would rather take a pit or kava in almost perfect condition, it will be an order of magnitude easier and three times more powerful .. and figs with her that it will work on gasoline (I'm talking about the enduro version). In my purely personal opinion, due to the fact that all "electro" is now in vogue, manufacturers of such equipment raise prices to inadequate full. In the "Russian" mote there is only a frame along the way, but in appearance it looks like a hollow china. 250 kg of weight, it will go everywhere ... well, well, I'll see how these 250 kg declared 20 hp will be pulled out of the mud boo-ha-ha !!!

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