Snakes and monsters of Russian epics

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One of the most terrible opponents of Russian epic heroes - Snakes, judging by the descriptions, were still lizards, since they had paws. According to the narrators, these monsters knew how to fly, spewed flames, often were many-headed.


Snake Gorynych and Koschey the Immortal. Novosibirsk





Snake Gorynych in the park "Kudykina Gora", Lipetsk region


In this case, epic plots are often intertwined with fabulous: in Russian folk tales like Snakes are also opponents of the heroes, only the epic heroes are fighting with them.

Snakes and monsters of Russian epics

This illustration is not Dobrynya Nikitich and not Alyosha Popovich, but Ivan the Peasant Son


Snakes and Lizards in Russian Chronicles and Aliens Notes


The most interesting thing is that references to all kinds of snakes and lizards can be found in some chronicle sources. So, in one of the chronicles under 1092, it was recorded:
"The clouds became dark, and the great serpent stretched out from behind them, a head in the fire, and three heads, and smoke came from it, and noise began, like thunder."


In this case, we probably have a description of the flight of a large meteorite - car.

But in the "Tale of Slovenia and Ruse" (the initial part of the patriarchal chronicle of the "Legend of the beginning of Ruski land and the creation of Novagrad and where the family of Slovenian princes comes from," dated the second half of the XVII century), everything is much more complicated and fabulous. It tells about some tribal leaders Sloven and Ruse, about sister Rusa - Ilmer, in whose honor Lake Ilmen was named, reports about the founding of the city of Slovensk Velikiy, the predecessor of Novgorod, on the bank of the “muddy” Volkhov River. But in this case, we are more interested in information about the elder son of Sloven, the Volkha, the “pleasing sorcerer,” who could turn into some kind of lizard, devouring people who did not agree to worship him. Locals called him "the god of existence" and sacrificed black hens, and in a special case - even girls. After the death of this strange prince, he was buried with great honor under a high mound, but the earth fell beneath him, leaving a deep pit, which for a long time remained uncharged.

Old Russian korkodily: horses covered with bark


Modern researchers associate this legend with numerous testimonies of the famous “cortices” that appeared in Northern Russia and neighboring Lithuania even in the 17th century (these creatures had nothing to do with crocodiles, the literal translation is “a horse covered in bark”).

The letter of commendation to Roman Galitsky (Galician-Volyn chronicle, entry under 1200) states:
"Byt was angry like a lynx, and ruin yako and korkodiland predestinate their land, like an eagle, and brave about what you like and a tour. ”


And in the Pskov Chronicle under the year 1582 you can read:
“In the same year, ferocious corcodiles came out of the river, and did not allow passage; they ate a lot of people, and people were in fear and prayed to God throughout the whole earth. "


In the same century, Sigismund von Herberstein in his Notes on Muscovy reported that he had met in Lithuania "idol worshipers" who "feed at home, like penates (domestic spirits), some snakes with four short legs like lizards with black and a fat body, having no more than a 3 span and is called a givoit. In the days that were laid, people cleanse their home and with some fear, with the whole family worship them reverently, crawling out to the food supplied. Disasters are attributed to the fact that the serpent deity was poorly fed. ”

Jerome Horsey (Sir Jerome Horsey), a merchant and diplomat who lived in Russia in the second half of the XVII century, wrote in Notes on Russia:
“When we moved across the river, a poisonous dead crocodile snake lay on its bank. My men pierced him with spears. At the same time, such a terrible smell spread that I was poisoned and had been sick for a long time. ”


The manuscript of the Great Synodal Library says that a “damned creature” was caught in Volkhov, which the local pagans (it’s about the 17th century!) Was buried in a “high grave” (kurgan), and then they celebrated a trifle.

And even at the beginning of the XVIII century in the Arzamas city archive there is an interesting entry:
“On the summer of June 1719, the 4 of the day in the county was a great storm, and tornadoes, and hail, and many cattle and all living things died. And the serpent fell from heaven, scorched by God's wrath, and the stinking disgusting stinking. And remembering the Decree of God by the grace of our Russian All-Russian Peter Alekseevich from the summer of Kunshtkamer 17180 and collecting for her wonders of various monsters and freaks of all kinds, stones of heaven and other wonders, the serpent was thrown into a barrel with strong double wine ... "


According to the description compiled by Zemstvo commissioner Vasily Shtykov, this “snake” had short legs and a huge mouth full of sharp teeth. Apparently, the monster did not reach Petersburg, no traces of the Arzamas "snake" were detected anymore.

Serpent as the ancestor of the hero


Now back to the epic and see what information about the Snakes tell storytellers.

In the epic Volk Vseslav'evich, the Serpent is represented as the father of the protagonist:
On the garden, on the green
I went-walked the young princess
Marfa Vseslavovna -
Has come on a serpent fierce.
A fierce serpent wrapped
About chaebot green morocco,
About silk stocking,
The trunk (this tail) has on the white thighs
That sometimes the princess conceived,
Has conceived and in due time has given birth.


It is not surprising that the hero born of Snake turned out to be not just a hero, but a werewolf:
Volh began to grow up,
Volk learned many wisdom:
Pike-rybyu walk
Volhu over the blue seas,
Gray wolf scouring dark forests
A roundabout-golden horns scouring the field,
A clear falcon to fly under the cloud.


Most researchers relate this hero to the Polotsk prince Vseslav, who, according to some chroniclers, was born from “magic,” and in the year of his birth there was “the sign of Zmievo in heaven” in Russia.

More information about this prince is described in the article. Heroes of epics and their possible prototypes.

Snake Tugarin


If we read into the epic texts, we immediately notice that calling the opponents of the heroes Snakes (or Zmeevichs), talking about numerous heads and "trunks" (meaning tails), narrators hereinafter describe them as ordinary, though very large and strong people.

Here, for example, as described by the Serpent-Tugarin (in other versions - Tugarin Zmeevich):
"How is the Snake-Tugarin going to the white-stone chambers?"


Tugarin is exactly going, not crawling, but let's say that he is a lizard, and he has paws.

However, it is further reported that "between the shoulders of his oblique sazhen".

Later:
He sits down at the tables of oak and sugar.
Yes, she puts the princess on her knees.


Agree, even the lizard make it difficult.

In turn, Princess Apraksa says:
"Now and feast and gazebo
With dear friend Snake-Gorynychem! ”


But we know that the “guest” of Prince Vladimir is Tugarin. Consequently, the Serpent Gorynych, in this case - this is a title (and Zmeevich, respectively, should mean the prince).

In the future, we learn that in a duel with Alyosha Popovich Snake-Tugarin rides on a horse. Here is how one of the illustrators tried to resolve this contradiction:



We see a winged pangolin, and in fact in a number of records of this epic it is reported that the wings were not at Tugarin, but at his horse (such an ancient Russian Bellerophon with Pegasus). These illustrations look much more believable:


Tugarin on a winged horse, an illustration to the epic



Tugarin Zmeevich


Many researchers viewed the epic Serpents as the embodiment of an enemy army, each head of such a Serpent, in their opinion, means tumen or darkness - 10 000 enemy warriors. S. Pletnev believed that the Polovtsians were originally the serpents of Russian epics. In the article Heroes of epics and their possible prototypes We have already said that the epics, in which we are talking about the struggle of the Russian warriors with snakes, can in a veiled form tell about the wars with the nomadic Polovtsi. At the head of the Polovtsian Union stood the tribe "Kai", whose name translates as "snake". Arab and Chinese authors, speaking repeatedly of the Kipchaks-Polovtsi, use the saying “there are seven heads of a snake” (according to the number of main tribes) - this is the possible clue to the many-headedness of Russian Serpent Serpents. And the Russian chroniclers seemed to know about this: the victory of Vladimir Monomakh over the Polovtsi in 1103 says:
"Crush the heads of the serpent."


Vsevolod Miller first suggested that under the name "Tugarin" Russian epics hiding Polovtsian Khan Tugorkan. His duel with Alyosha Popovich, in the opinion of this author, serves as a memory of the victory over the Polovtsi in Pereyaslavl in 1096 year. Then Russian troops were commanded by Vladimir Monomakh (Pereyaslavsky Prince) and Svyatopolk Izyaslavich (Prince of Kiev). Tugorkan Svyatopolk, who was killed in a battle, ordered to bury "aces of the truth of his own" near Kiev.

Snake Gorynych Russian epics


By the way, in the epic of Dobrynya Nikitich we learn that Snake Gorynych is a Christian! Alyosha Popovich says to Prince Vladimir:
"Dobrynyushka snake cross brother."



Is this the Serpent Gorynych - Christian and Dobrynia Nikitich's cross brother? I. Bilibin, Snake Gorynych


Who and how could baptize the prehistoric reptile? Until this, even the creators of the mediocre modern cartoons "about the heroes", have not yet thought of. But the Polovtsian khans sometimes were baptized. And even the eldest son of Batu Khan, Sartak (sister of Alexander Nevsky) was a Christian (apparently of the Nestorian persuasion).

In the same epic, the Serpent (often the Serpent, as in the following passage) offers Dobryna to conclude a real diplomatic agreement:
“Let us make the great commandment:
You - do not ride now on the mountain Sorochinskaya,
Do not trample here the little serpents,
Do not help out full of Russian;
And I'll give you a smaller sister, -
I do not fly yes to Holy Russia,
And not to take more full of Russian ”.


It is difficult to expect this from some kind of reptile. But if such an initiative comes from one of the Polovtsian princes, everything falls into place.

Bylina "About Dobrynya and the Serpent"


Now it's time to tell more about the epic “About Dobryna and the Serpent,” which is one of the most common Russian epic songs - more than 60 of her records are known. Moreover, the beginning of this epic is part of a song that was not part of the Kiev cycle: Dobrynya accomplishes his first feat (meeting the Serpent on the Pucha-river) not on the orders of the Kiev prince, his starting point is Ryazan, and he also returns to Ryazan.


Old Ryazan in its heyday, reconstruction


The antiquity of events is sometimes emphasized by narrators:
"Until now, Ryazan was a village, and now Ryazan is a city of slyvet".


But in the second part, the hero is already in Kiev. And Snake Gorynych still did not fulfill his promise, and flew to Russia. But now he was abducted not by a simple girl, but by the niece of the Kiev prince, Zabava Putyatichna.


Snake Gorynych with a kidnapped girl


Vladimir learns about it at a feast: everything is as usual - indeed, where else would the prince of Kiev be, according to the narrators? He appeals to those present warriors with a proposal to go in search of fun. The heroes of the special enthusiasm do not show, and then Vladimir directly refers to Alyosha Popovich:
“Ai, you Aleshenka Levontevich!
Mosh do you get from us Fun daughter Potyachichnu
From that was a cave of a snake? "


Alyosha does not want to fight the Serpent either, but he knows who to send there:
“Oh you, sun Vladimir Stolnokievsky!
I heard it was this light
Dobrynyushka snake cross brother;
Will give here the damn snake
Young Dobrynyushka Nikitich
Without a fight, without a fight bloodshed
There and then Nun Amusing Potyatchnu's daughter. ”


The prince, who had just been so courteous and gentle with other warriors, not even daring to order them directly, addresses Dobryna in an unusually stern manner:
“You get ka nun Fun daughter Potyatichnu
Yes, from that was a cave-snake.
You will not get Fun Potyatichnaya's daughter,
I will order you, Dobrynya, to chop the head. ”


In this regard, it is time to talk about the origin of the hero. There is no consensus here. Often, narrators say that Dobrynia's father is a certain merchant. But in two epic entries about the battle of Dobrynya and Ilya Muromets and in one epic entry about Dobrynya and Alyosha Popovich it is said that the mother of this bogatyr was a princess. However, Dobrynya himself says the Putyatina, saved by him:
"You are the princely family, but you are the Christian family."



I. Bilibin, Dobrynya Nikitich frees Zabava Putyatichna from the Serpent Gorynych


Since Zabava is clearly not a Muslim or a pagan, these words can only be interpreted as a recognition of a hero in a peasant background. Indirect confirmation can serve as information that Dobrynya does not receive any reward for the release of the niece of the prince. Contrary to tradition, the hero does not marry the girl freed by him, the prince does not suit him a solemn meeting, does not favor gold, silver, pearls - the epic usually ends with the return of Dobrynya pouring a horse into the horse, while he himself goes to bed. Probably, Prince Vladimir, who first learned about Dobryn, still treats him as a commoner servant, and is not ready to accept him as a hero. Only in some embodiments, Vladimir gives a feast in honor of the hero, which can be considered a kind of ritual for the recognition of Dobrynia as a member of the princely squad.

There is also other circumstantial evidence of Dobryni’s ignorance. So, during the first meeting with the Serpent, he, for some reason, turns out to be unarmed - neither a sword, nor a shield, nor a spear. And he has to use the "cap of the land of the Greek."

In fact, the battle did not take place in the river, Dobrynya managed to go ashore, and where is his heroic weapon? Some storytellers are trying to get out of the situation, saying that the horse with arms ran away. But, was Dobrynya really so careless that he didn't even tie him up?

By the way, about the "cap of the land of the Greek": what is it, and how did it look? The most reliable version is the headdress of Christian pilgrims, which had the shape of a bell. Pilgrims often sewed sea shells on this hat: in this case, the blow, indeed, could be very tangible and painful. But Dobrynya, apparently, uses an ordinary hat, which is stuffed with sand: "He nagreb hat sand sand of yellow."


The first battle of Dobrynya with the Serpent Gorynych, shot from filmstrip


There is another version of the "Greek hat" - the helmet, which is sometimes called the Greek cap.


Greek helmet (Greek cap), Armory, 14th century


But to wield such a helmet full of sand is not very convenient. Is that like this: as a throwing projectile - one-time:



But back to the instructions of the prince - to bring home Fun Putyatichnu. Later it turns out that a huge number of both Russian and foreign captives languished in the “holes of the snake”. But they are not interested in the Kiev prince: if the Serpent agrees to give his niece, let them remain in these holes. And the narrators do not condemn Vladimir at all, not finding anything special in such an attitude to their fellow tribesmen.

And what about Dobrynya? Bylinas report that, having learned about the princely order, he suddenly "twirled, grieved." Why? Scared to meet again with the Serpent? The narrators pass on the Dobrian mother's complaint:
"And threw us a great service
Vladimir Solnyshko stolnokievskiy, -
And to get was Fun daughter Potiatichnu
And from that was the cave of the serpent.
And Nun does not have a good horse,
But Nun doesn’t have Dobrynia spear
I have nothing to do with the Sorochinskaya mountain,
That snake was cursed now. ”


Dobrynia has neither a horse nor a weapon! It is clear now why for the first time he had to fight off with a hat. And the Kiev prince forever feasting did not even think of equipping his “conqueror”. And with what does Dobrynya go to the deadly battle, with what weapon?

Illustrators depict the second battle with the Serpent like this:


V.M. Vasnetsov, The Battle of Dobrynia Nikitich with the seven-headed Serpent Gorynych



Dobrynya and the Serpent, illustration by G. Alimov


In fact, everything was different.

In the epic "Dobrynya and Marinka" (which is described in the article "Some sufferings from that love." Wives of Russian epic heroes) states that Dobrynia's mother was a witch (well, a sorceress). And here again we find confirmation of this fact, unexpected for many readers: the mother gives the bogatyr a magic handkerchief, wiping which restores strength, and a whip of seven silks - whip her horse “between the ears and between the legs” so that he drops the serpents from the hoofs and beat the main one Snake:
Ay damn snake yes beat began.
Ay reminded he parental punishment,
I took out the whip from the pickpocket.
Beats a snake and its whip.
Tamed by a snake like a cattle,
Aki skotininu yes krasiyanskaya.


The horse of Dobrynya, by the way, is also not at all combat: either the fathers, or even the grandfather, stood in a stable knee-deep in manure.

And now the serpent is defeated, its blood floods all around, but the earth does not accept it. Dobrynya strikes the ground with a spear (but not his own, about which nothing is said in the epic, but a trophy one - “basurman”), and the blood goes into the resulting hole.

Subsequently, Dobrynya becomes the second most important Russian bogatyr - either he won out, or later narrators “ennobled” his image, attributing boyar or even princely origin.

In the image of Dobrynya, in addition to courage and the strength of the heroic, "vegetation" is of paramount importance: he knows how to behave correctly in any circumstances, is portrayed by a person "polite" and courteous. Ilya Muromets says about him:
"He knows with the hero, he will move together, he knows the hero and the honor to give."


Therefore, in other epics, it is Dobrynya who often performs the diplomatic missions of Prince Vladimir.

Historians about the epic Serpent Gorynyche


But how did historians and researchers of Russian folklore interpret this epic?

Orest Miller, based on the fact that when 3 appears, Gorynych’s "like rain rains" and "like thunder rattles," suggested:
"The cave, the mountain and the serpent itself - all these are just different myths of the same thing - clouds that live among the waters of the heavens and fly through the waters of the heavens."


Vsevolod Miller considered Dobrynia bathing in the river as a symbol of baptism.

A. Markov later “clarified” that the first part of the epic tells of the baptism of Dobrynia and Kiev itself. And in the second part, in the opinion of this author, it is said about the forcible baptism of Novgorod, when "Putiata baptized with a sword, and Dobrynya with fire."

V. V. Stasov (the work “The Origin of the Epics”) compared Dobryni’s snake collection with the struggle of the Hindu god Krishna with the many-headed king of serpents, Kalia.

This is what is said in the Srimad Bhagavatam (Bhagavata Purana is the commentary on Vedanta-sutra), a Vedic work, the creation of which is attributed to Vyasadeva:
“Desiring to purify the waters of the Yamuna, poisoned by the poison of Kaliya, Lord Krishna climbed a Kadamba tree on the bank of the river and jumped into the water. Kaliya was outraged that Krishna dared to violate the boundaries of his domain. Striving toward the Lord, the serpent stung Him in the chest. ”



Krishna and the king of Kalia


Then Kalia wrapped Krsna with rings, but:
“Krishna began to grow in size and so caused the snake to loosen its hold and release Him. Then Lord Krishna began to frolic and dance on Kalia’s hoods, trampling a thousand of his heads so selflessly and passionately that the forces soon left the snake ... Seeing that life was about to leave Kaliya, his wife Nagapatni, bowed to the lotus feet of Lord Krishna and they began to offer prayers to the Lord in the hope that He would free their husband ... Satisfied with the prayers of Nagapatni, Lord Krishna freed Kaliya. ”


A bit like Dobrynia's first fight with the Serpent, isn't it?
DS Likhachev, like many others, considered the Russian epic serpents a symbol of an external enemy.

Some historians believe that the songs about the battle between Alyosha Popovich and Tugarin are secondary to the epics about Dobryna. N. Dashkevich, for example, believed that
“The feat of Dobrynia was simply transferred to Alyosha”.


A. V. Rystenko also believed that "Tugarin" is not a name, but a collective image of the enemy, from the word "tug" - trouble. But under the influence of songs about Dobrynya, Tugarin "took the features of a snake."

Some researchers believe that under the guise of “The Serpent of the Cruel, the Serpent of Black, many-headed,” whose “one thousand heads, one thousand tails” hides Chernobog, who was also portrayed as a black man with a silver-plated mustache.

Later in the Russian fairy tales appears many-headed Miracle Yudo. Many believe that this is another name of the Serpent Gorynych.


Wonder Yudo, an illustration for a fairy tale


Other researchers, pointing out that the word “miracle” previously meant any giant (not necessarily snake-like), associate this character with the Idol of the Lamb.

Jan Usmoshvets as a possible prototype of Nikita Kozhemyaki


Another song of the Kiev cycle, in which we are talking about the competition of the hero with the Serpent, is the well-known epic "Nikita Kozhemyaka." The events described in it became the plot of Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian fairy tales. In this epic, the next Snake kidnaps the princely (in fairy tales - the Tsar's) daughter and forcibly marries her. The hero who saves her is not a hero, but an ordinary artisan citizen: most often he is called kozhemyaka, but sometimes also a blacksmith or a successor. Since the forces of the Russian duel named Nikita (sometimes Ilya, Kirill or Kuzma) and the forces of the Serpent turn out to be equal, they divide the land. It is believed that in this way the epic explains the origin of the famous Serpentine ramparts, the creation of which the chronicles are silent - the Serpent ramparts are only mentioned in them, as already existing: valoma "and so on.


Plot Zmieva shaft, modern photo


The prototype of the protagonist of the epic was a certain young man who defeated the Pecheneg bogatyr in 992 (Tale of Bygone Years, “The Legend of the Kozhemyak Youth). The similarity of the plots is obvious. Vladimir opposes the Pechenegs and meets them.
"On Trubezhe at the ford where is now Pereyaslavl ... And the Pechenezhsky prince drove up to the river, called Vladimir and told him:" Let you out of your husband, and me of yours - let them fight. If your husband leaves me on the ground, we will not fight for three years ; if Ave, our husband throws your land, then we will ruin you for three years. "

And broke up.

Vladimir, returning to his camp, sent the heralds around the camp, with the words:

"Is there such a husband who would clutch with the Pecheneg?"


And it was not found anywhere. The next morning, the Pechenegs arrived and brought their husband, but ours did not have one. And Vladimir began to humor, sending around his army, and one old husband came to the prince and said to him: "Prince! I have one son at home; I went out with four, and he stayed at home. Since childhood, no one left him I still scolded him, and he crushed his skin, so he got angry and tore the skin with his hands. " Having heard about it, the prince was delighted, and they sent for him, and they brought him to the prince, and the prince told him everything.

He replied: "Prince! I do not know if I can grab hold of him - test me: is there a big and strong bull?"

And they found a bull, big and strong, and ordered it to infuriate him; they placed a red-hot iron on him and let him go. And the bull ran past him, and grabbed the bull with his hand on its side and snatched the skin with meat, as much as his hand seized. And Vladimir said to him: "You can fight him."

The next morning, the Pechenegs came and began to call: "Is there a husband? Ours is ready!" Vladimir ordered to put on weapons on the same night, and both parties agreed. The Pechenegs released their husband: he was very big and terrible. And Vladimir’s husband came out and saw his pechenegs and laughed, for he was of medium height. And they measured the place between the two troops, and sent them against each other. And they grabbed, and began to firmly press each other, and strangled Pechenezhin hands to death. And threw him to the ground. There was a cry, and the Pechenegs ran, and the Russians pursued them, beating them, and chased them away. Vladimir, however, was delighted and laid the city at the ford, and called it Pereyaslavl, for the young man took over the glory. And Vladimir made him a great husband, and his father too ... "


The later Nikon's chronicle names the name of this young man: Jan Usmoshvets (“the one who sews the skin”).


Ugryumov G. I. The test of Jan Usmar's strength. 1796


Serpent Habitat


But where did the Russian epic snakes dwell? The narrators often report that the “Nora the Serpent” was “behind the uterus-Volga”. Sometimes a more precise location is indicated: “Mount Sorochinskaya” (from the name of the river, which is now called the Tsaritsa, this is the right tributary of the Volga, currently flows through the territory of modern Volgograd).


Tsaritsa River, archival photo


At the source of this river at the present time there is the Volgograd neighborhood “Gorky”, here there is Sorochinskaya street.


Source of the Tsaritsa River, Gorkovsky Village, Volgograd

Some epics say that the Serpent Gorynych guards Kalinov Bridge on the Tierra del Fuego, which many researchers consider to be the entrance to the world of the dead.


Kalinov Bridge, I. Ozhiganov


Fire Serpent


There are other Snakes that are mentioned in Slavic legends and fairy tales. For example, the Fire Serpent (Fireman, Letavets), which was described by the winged and three-headed. He also paid attention to women and girls, but only to those of them who yearned for their dead husband or groom. Most often, this Serpent, which was also called Lyubavtsev, Volokyta, Lyubostay, flew during wars, when many widows appeared in cities and villages. It was they who saw this snake, which assumed the shape of a dead man, all the rest could see only unreasonable sparks. Therefore, widows in Russia were forbidden to grieve unnecessarily for their dead husbands, while other family members tried to be around all the time to prevent adultery (probably, it is about masturbation). The priests believed that this Serpent is the wives because of the wrong rite of commemoration.

In the ancient Russian "Tale of Peter and Fevronia" (written in the middle of the XVI century by the priest Yermolai, in monasticism - Erasmus), the hero killed such a Serpent, who, contrary to custom, flew to his living brother's wife - Paul. Because of the blood of the monster that fell on Peter, his body was covered with ulcers. Only the wise maiden Fevronia could cure the prince.


Prince Peter kills the Snake, the stigma (fragment) icons of the XVII century


Snake "Tale of Eruslan Lazarevich"


We also see another Serpent in “The Tale of Yruslan Lazarevich” (XVII century), the main character of which at first reminds Vasily Buslaev of the Novgorod epics: “Whoever he takes by the hand - that one will pull out his hand, and who for the leg will break it out” "Princes and boyars pleaded: either we live in the kingdom, or Eruslan". However, in the future, the bogatyr still finds his forces the right application. Among his exploits - the victory over a certain "Theodul the Serpent", which, apparently, was not a real serpent, because he had a beautiful daughter who married another hero of the story - Prince Ivan.


Eruslan Lazarevich and Feodul-Snake, splint


Thus, we can make the assumption that under the guise of the majority of the epic "Serpents" and monsters, there are people, albeit very unusual, distinguished by their strength, growth, or armies of the enemies of the Russian land. But there are exceptions to this rule: in the epic “Mikhailo Potyk” the hero, who, with the help of his wife and his wife, went to her grave, fights with a real snake, apparently, who is the guardian of the underworld.



In more detail about this epic told in previous articles of the cycle.
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  1. +11
    5 July 2019 05: 57
    And even at the beginning of the XVIII century in the Arzamas city archive there is an interesting entry:
    “On the summer of June 1719, the 4 of the day in the county was a great storm, and tornadoes, and hail, and many cattle and all living things died. And the serpent fell from heaven, scorched by God's wrath, and the stinking disgusting stinking. And remembering the Decree of God by the grace of our Russian All-Russian Peter Alekseevich from the summer of Kunshtkamer 17180 and collecting for her wonders of various monsters and freaks of all kinds, stones of heaven and other wonders, the serpent was thrown into a barrel with strong double wine ... "
    the author did not finish the story, but it was like that. the peasants accompanying this curiosity, they ate alcohol (double wine) dear, and ate the creature, threw out the rest ... I read somewhere 30 years ago,
    In the epic Volk Vseslav'evich, the Serpent is represented as the father of the protagonist:
    On the garden, on the green
    I went-walked the young princess
    Marfa Vseslavovna -
    Has come on a serpent fierce.
    A fierce serpent wrapped
    About chaebot green morocco,
    About silk stocking,
    The trunk (this tail) has on the white thighs
    That sometimes the princess conceived
    ,
    Has conceived and in due time has given birth.
    not a "tail" it was .... not a "tail" ... lol funny friday reading.
    1. +4
      5 July 2019 22: 47
      Little Red Riding Hood:

      “Why do you have such a long tail?”

      “This is not a tail ...” answered the Gray Wolf and blushed deeply. wink
  2. +6
    5 July 2019 06: 03
    Inspired by:
    "And I don't need a princess for nothing
    I will win the miracle anyway "
    (V.S. Vysotsky)
    Thank you, Valery!
    1. +6
      5 July 2019 06: 47
      "Suddenly I got out of there
      Something obscene.
      Maybe a green serpent,
      Or maybe a crocodile "(c).

      Just in time for the question of the corkodiles.
      1. +6
        5 July 2019 06: 53
        Rather, to the question of delirum tremens laughing
        "I'll hook a twenty-eight ruble on the hook
        I'd like to catch "Golden Autumn" (folk art)
        1. +3
          5 July 2019 06: 56
          Also, quite a source of epics:

          "I welcome God in you,
          Drinking with me "(c).
        2. +3
          6 July 2019 16: 16
          Anton, hello and best wishes. hi

          This is what interested me here, I'm talking about the name of one of the female characters.
          Fun ... However, a funny name, in the sense, is the lady funny in itself, or is it pleasant to play with her, or is she specifically intended for fun? Topercha further: Putyatichna, is this a surname, patronymic, or was it just "driven"? Then the question arises ... No, I know why "la puta" was called Laputa, I think that everyone who survived the "dashing nineties", even without knowledge of the Spanish language, knows what the word "puta" means. (I will ask without political analogies). So the question arises, why are they all there because of this wench to each other's muzzles? laughing

          Well, thanks to the author for the beautiful presentation. hi
          1. 0
            6 July 2019 18: 38
            Hello, Konstantin!
            I will reveal a terrible secret: Fun Putyatichna is her epic pseudonym. In fact, the lady’s name was Shalava Uncertain! laughing
            1. +2
              6 July 2019 18: 41
              Wow, damn it! But I thought so! And then everyone writes novels about some kind of treasured French courtesans, but with us here - wow. And besides this, he will stop the galloping horse! drinks
              1. +2
                6 July 2019 18: 51
                What will "stop" there !!! Nekrasov has never seen women with a pair of sleepers on their shoulders! Such a sidewalk with a poured thigh - a horse from the hooves and into the ditch. And then, you understand: "you see standing, exhausted with fever, a large, gray-haired Belarusian."
                1. +2
                  6 July 2019 18: 54
                  Thank God that I did not live and did not see! I can’t even imagine what he could write during the rest, for example, on Solovki. laughing
  3. +3
    5 July 2019 06: 05
    Diverse and multifaceted! fellow
    Miracle Yudo was most pleased (by the way, why Yudo?)

    Perhaps, if you get very angry and try, then this Yudo can be hammered by deafness ... laughing
    1. +4
      5 July 2019 06: 52
      And most of all I remember Tugarin surrounded by a fire-breathing horse, wolves and ravens. Inflated - like modern athletes, the sword shine like the Jedi (not at all in this topic, if not correct), and the expression on his face is sarcastic-philosophical.

      If it’s not a serpent, then for sure - Khan.
      1. +4
        5 July 2019 07: 00
        "Monsters, they are like Vasya, only scary!" (advertising slogan)
    2. +4
      5 July 2019 09: 24
      I like the version with the Scandinavians, who arrived on the rooks and robbed the population. For Odin in transcription is more like Yudin (Óðinn). So the Wonder Yudo Fish-Whale sailed
      1. +9
        5 July 2019 10: 34
        Quote: skinar
        I like the version with the Scandinavians, who arrived on the rooks and robbed the population. For Odin in transcription is more like Yudin (Óðinn). So the Wonder Yudo Fish-Whale sailed

        An interesting version, and even viable, if Wonder-Yudo were invented in Western Europe. In Russia, the Scandinavians behaved much more decently: they traded, lived, and even
        founded a ruling dynasty. No, of course they also robbed (the character is like that), but we somehow didn't get to the point of creating a prayer like "De furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine! De sagittis hungarorum libera nos, Domine!"
        1. +1
          5 July 2019 13: 52
          And why not be relics. Who is such a chupacabra, for example?
          In one of the versions of the epic about Sadko, the sea king is called Ilmen.
          And I would not rule out "Greek fire" or a similar napalm, the same powder charges ...
      2. +1
        13 July 2019 23: 17
        Yudo - Zhiiiddd (site blocks). The self-name of the Khazars, who just lived in the steppes between the Volga and the Don.
    3. +3
      5 July 2019 10: 48
      it's a miracle
  4. +3
    5 July 2019 06: 31
    Great study.
    But in terms of multi-headed snakes, you just need to watch YouTube videos about tornadoes. Definitely Serpents of the Mountain. Goals as many as necessary, so much will be.
    1. VLR
      +6
      5 July 2019 07: 42
      An interesting version, but tornadoes for Central Russia are not very typical. But single, probably, could cause
      association with flying serpents from epics and tales.
      1. +7
        5 July 2019 12: 46
        And how do you like this version:
        Kalinov (red-hot) bridge is thrown over the river of fire by the river Smorodina, dividing the world of living souls and the world of the dead (demons). Through the bridge, which is the border, the Serpent (Satan) is trying to break through. And it is here that the heroes (warriors) restrain the forces of evil that threaten good (demons, etc.).
        And the analogy with today is:
        Thirty odd years have passed
        Sleeping people - sleeping brothers ...
        Emelya sleeps on the stove - Bogatyr Evpatiy ...
        Ilya Muromets is lying - His feet are freezing,
        Satan **** in Russia! - UDO Jews ...

        At Kalinov - a bridge, at the river - Currants,
        Not! - Not a single post to protect the homeland ...
        The snakes sting, The Thief rules - according to his own laws,
        Grace disappears! - Rodnikov - Pokonov ...

        Peasant son - Younger son - protects the Earth,
        The rest, the Brothers are sleeping - And the people are burning up (impoverished) ...
        Last fight! - Mortal Kombat! - Everything is being done by Vanyusha,
        The son of a peasant! - My dear son! - Wake up, Souls! ...

        Help! - Brothers, in that! - Rod knock out,
        For the viburnum bush! - To see the homeland ...
        Miracle-UDO *****! - Win! - Rod Native! - Glorify ...
        Overclock! - Snake army! - thank you! - Leave ...
        A.V. Kozak
      2. +3
        5 July 2019 16: 21
        The entrance to the palace of the Crimean khans in Bakhchisarai .. begins at the bridge over the Churuk-Su river. Above the heavy folds of the palace gates is a carved image of two intertwined snakes, the coat of arms of Gireyev, the rulers of the Crimean Khanate.

        Serpent Girey (Gorynych-Gorey-Girey)
  5. +6
    5 July 2019 06: 45
    One can only rejoice at the author's diligence and ability to "make ends meet".
    1. +4
      5 July 2019 06: 57
      And there is a feeling - that often a picture could be a source of text - like with a Greek helmet.

      Big job. I was reminded of the thoroughness of the first chapters of "Moby Dick".
      1. VLR
        +8
        5 July 2019 07: 18
        Yes. I often look for illustrations for text, but sometimes I find a picture that I like, but I cannot insert it. And then I write a paragraph specially for it - so that there is a reason to put it in the article. In this article, a randomly found picture of Krishna found a quote from the Vedas.
    2. +1
      5 July 2019 11: 08
      Nonsense, tails with tails ...
    3. +2
      6 July 2019 21: 11
      kalibr "One can only rejoice at the author's diligence and ability to" make ends meet ".
      I read how the Cossacks in Central Asia in the 19th century tried to catch a large snake (maybe it was a hefty monitor lizard ") This reptile lived in a cave and hissed a lot when he was piled with stones.))) Yes ... the edged weapon did not seem to take it.
  6. VLR
    +4
    5 July 2019 08: 05
    By the way, a ridiculous problem on the topic, try to decide between times - on the bus, subway or train:
    Ivan Tsarevich gathered for a battle with the Serpent Gorynych, three-headed and three-tailed. “Here is your sword,” said Baba Yaga to the prince. - With one blow you can cut down the Snake either with one head, or with two heads, or with one tail, or with two tails. Remember: cut the head - a new one will grow; if you cut the tail, two new ones will grow; if you cut two tails, your head will grow; if you cut down two heads, nothing will grow. ” For how many blows can Ivan Tsarevich cut down all heads and all tails of the Serpent of Gorynych?
    1. +1
      5 July 2019 08: 14
      I got 4
      1. VLR
        +3
        5 July 2019 08: 16
        Good morning, Anton.
        Check out: the least number of strokes are considered ...
        I'll leave the intrigue: more, let's say, the correct answer is a number from "8" to "10".
        1. +3
          5 July 2019 08: 23
          Hello, Valery!
          I will try to count.
          The task is really funny, I’ll offer my familiar teachers of mathematics.
        2. +2
          5 July 2019 20: 26
          Quote: VlR
          Good morning, Anton.
          Check out: the least number of strokes are considered ...
          I'll leave the intrigue: more, let's say, the correct answer is a number from "8" to "10".

          hi
          1. Cut off 2 heads (2 strokes), nothing grows in their place. Remains: head, 3 tails.
          2. Cut off 2 tails (2 hits). A head grows in their place. As a result, we have 2 heads, 1 tail.
          3. Cut off the tail (1 hit), 2 tails grow in its place. We have: 2 heads, 2 tails.
          4. Cut off 2 heads (1 hit), nothing grows. We have: 2 tails.
          5. We chop off the tail (1 hit), 2 tails grow. We have: 3 tails.
          6. We chop off the tail (1 hit), 2 tails grow. We have: 4 tails.
          7. We chop off 2 tails (2 strokes), the head grows. We have: 1 head, 2 tails.
          8. We chop off 2 tails (2 strokes), the head grows. We have: 2 heads.
          9. Cut off 2 heads (2 strokes), nothing will grow.

          It turned out 14 hits. Faster could not.
      2. BAI
        +4
        5 July 2019 10: 25
        I got 4

        Me too:
        1 hit -2 heads = 1 head + 3 tails
        2 hit -2 tails = 2 heads + 1 tail
        3 hit - 2 heads = 1 tail
        4 punch - 1 tail
        From a headless and tailless corpse, nothing should grow, either with the logic of the problem problem.
        1. +11
          5 July 2019 11: 12
          Quote: BAI
          4 punch - 1 tail

          And grow two. smile
          Algorithm such - we chop on one tail, bringing their number to six. Then we cut two tails, bringing the number of heads to six. Then we chop two heads. Although, personally, I would stop at the second stage - it is interesting to watch a six-headed tailless creature - how it will move with a displaced center of gravity. smile
          1. +4
            5 July 2019 12: 29
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            Although I personally would stop at the second stage - it is interesting to observe the six-headed tailless creature - how it will move with a displaced center of gravity.

            And you are an esthete, my friend! Already your trilobite somehow became a pity ...
            1. +5
              5 July 2019 13: 37
              Quote: HanTengri
              Already your trilobite somehow felt sorry

              With my ward, everything is in order, Igor, do not worry. He lives in a spacious aquarium, eats a sheet of Physalis, sometimes crawls on pebbles in the evenings, bask in the lamp and quietly rustles with plates of shell from pleasure.
              1. +3
                5 July 2019 17: 55
                I'm already starting to worry. Didn’t the scarecrow of Baron Sebottendorf lie in your collection?
                1. +3
                  5 July 2019 18: 50
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  not stuffed stuffed

                  Only scalps, Anton, only scalps. smile
                  The apartment is too small. request
                  smile
                  1. +3
                    5 July 2019 19: 18
                    Sadness, however! I wanted to meet an old man, ask about Shambhala ... And you only have a scalp ... What can I get from him? ...
              2. +3
                5 July 2019 18: 52
                With a time machine, it is more convenient to tell historical novels.
                1. +4
                  5 July 2019 19: 13
                  I remember something from J. Rodari, regarding an alternative to the invention of the button, the assassination of Caesar.
                  1. +4
                    5 July 2019 19: 30
                    Do not read.

                    But the main thing is that in our time the berdysh does not fly. And then suddenly it does not miss.
                    1. +3
                      5 July 2019 19: 33
                      Sometimes I think: "if only I didn't miss"
                      1. +4
                        5 July 2019 19: 41
                        So Akela was thinking about it. To some extent, it helped.
                      2. +3
                        5 July 2019 19: 46
                        Akela didn't think, he just acted according to the circumstances. However, like us ... Let's hope that our "Mowgli" will be luckier in the hunt.
                      3. +3
                        5 July 2019 19: 52
                        This is a note Kikabidze went:

                        "God forbid you guys live better than us."


                        "The barons are also fighting" (c).
                      4. +4
                        5 July 2019 20: 09
                        Already five years as I think so ...
                        Since my average decided that he can give me advice.
                        However, "You're still a tough old man, Rosenbaum!"
                      5. +3
                        5 July 2019 20: 19
                        "Boy so happy
                        And picks his nose "(c).
                      6. +3
                        5 July 2019 20: 50
                        'Hello, young tribe, not familiar "
                      7. +2
                        5 July 2019 20: 52
                        "Among sharks and albatrosses
                        He dreamed of being on board "(c).
                      8. +2
                        5 July 2019 21: 02
                        No, Sergey, except for our favorite game. We are aging, our time is running out. There is an opportunity to make the last jump. You need not to become Akela.
                      9. +2
                        5 July 2019 21: 07
                        If you look from the abstract, you can see a lot. But Goethe did not interfere with being a respectable age.
                      10. +1
                        5 July 2019 21: 29
                        To watch from the side, you need to be an absolute punk, like Diogenes. But he, I think, was drawn.
                      11. +1
                        5 July 2019 23: 06
                        Some joke characters claim to be under a banana anyway. Although not Diogenes.
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        3. +3
          5 July 2019 12: 41
          Quote: BAI
          From a headless and tailless corpse, nothing should grow, either with the logic of the problem problem.

          Apparently this is an abstract, mathematical Serpent Gorynych, loosely connected with the real world.
        4. +1
          5 July 2019 13: 36
          Quote: BAI
          4 punch - 1 tail

          and ... 2 tails grow ... If the task was solved so simply:
    2. +4
      5 July 2019 09: 01
      1. First we cut the tails one at a time so that there are six of them - these are 3 hits.
      2. We cope with the tails in pairs - three more hits. During this time, 3 heads grows.
      3. And with a six-headed it’s even more convenient to cope - three more hits.


      I wonder how many castles decorate the extracted trophies?
    3. +4
      5 July 2019 09: 10
      Quote: VlR
      For how many blows can the Tsarevich Ivan cut down the Gorynych Snake all his heads and all his tails?

      For nine.
      1. We chop 2 tails = 4 heads + 1 tail.
      2. We chop 1 tail = 4 heads + 2 tails.
      3. We chop 1 tail = 4 heads + 3 tails.
      4. We chop 1 tail = 4 heads + 4 tails.
      5. We chop 2 tails = 5 goals + 2 tails.
      6. We chop 2 tails = 6 goals
      7. We chop 2 heads = 4 heads.
      8. We chop 2 heads = 2 heads.
      9. We chop the last 2 heads.
      hi
      1. +4
        5 July 2019 09: 14
        And you are an esthete. Alternate the power of blows on the tails.
        1. +4
          5 July 2019 09: 17
          Quote from Korsar4
          And you are an esthete. Alternate the power of blows on the tails.

          I am not an esthete. I just studied mathematics in Soviet times in secondary school No. 5 of Kemerovo with Mityashina Valentina Andreevna.
          1. +3
            5 July 2019 09: 21
            The problem is still just arithmetic. I don’t even know what kind of mathematical technique is used here.

            Except that the word "iteration" is scraped. But I'm not sure if she has anything to do with this.
            1. +3
              5 July 2019 09: 33
              Quote from Korsar4
              But I'm not sure that she has a direct relationship to this.

              I explain.
              Arithmetic - A section of mathematics that studies numbers, their relationships and properties. The subject of arithmetic is the concept of number (natural, integer, rational, real, complex numbers) and its properties.
              Mathematics - Sciencehistorically based on solving quantitative problems and spatial real world relationships by idealizing the properties of objects necessary for this and formalizing these tasks. A science that studies numbers, structures, spaces, and transformations.
              Simply, this is when two are added to two and at the same time they receive four in the answer. All the rest... request
              1. +3
                5 July 2019 09: 47
                Let the mathematicians divide. But for me, if the problem is not from algebra, geometry and not from higher mathematics, then it refers to the initial stage.

                Very, I note, respected, because it is applied in life.
    4. +1
      5 July 2019 10: 27
      But what is there to think: you need to chop two tails, then two heads two times, and what will he do without heads with one tail?
      1. +6
        5 July 2019 11: 25
        Quote: revnagan
        What will he do without heads with one tail?

        The answer in the text of the article:
        The trunk (this tail) has on the white thighs
        That sometimes the princess conceived,
        Has conceived and in due time has given birth.

        So all the same tails are also necessary ... in order ... just in case.
        smile
        1. +3
          5 July 2019 16: 22
          Good evening friends, as always, I only managed to parse !!!
          On entoy I throw the thesis from the old Soviet cartoon - "what is more important wings or legs? The main tail !!! "
          Special respect to Valery, today's work has sincerely pleased, many thanks !!!
          Regards, Vlad!
          1. +2
            5 July 2019 18: 04
            Here! Words of a knowledgeable person!
            When you chop your head I smoke, the main thing is to press the carcass with your knee, because if it breaks out, it will run around the yard for a couple of minutes, wreaking havoc, horror and destruction.
    5. +2
      5 July 2019 16: 47
      My son is studying at a school of programmers. Twice I listened to the problem aloud - I reported the correct answer. I’m breaking my head now - where is the catch?
      1. +3
        5 July 2019 18: 11
        I don’t know, my “mathematical mindset” has died at the level of the riddle “about a goat, a wolf and a cabbage cabbage”!
        About fifteen years ago I got stuck when trying to calculate the length of sheets on the roof of the house. Knowing the theorem “the length of the hypotenuse is equal to,” etc. I couldn’t solve it trite! More precisely, it was decided, the answers were different ......! Then I just took the leaves in the box and drew a sectional roof (in the ratio of 100 to 1) and then measured the “hypotenuse” with a ruler. The funny thing is not missed!
        Regards, Vlad!
        1. +1
          5 July 2019 18: 41
          Exactly. Sometimes the result is important, sometimes the process.
    6. +1
      10 July 2019 19: 49
      wonderful task) and who the author does not tell me?)
  7. +1
    5 July 2019 08: 11
    The author is certainly well done, but wrote little.
  8. +5
    5 July 2019 09: 31
    "But where did the Serpents of Russian epics live?" In Slavic mythology, the Kalinov bridge was thrown over the fiery river Smorodina, which separated the world of the living from the world of the dead. It is along this bridge that the soul after death passes into the kingdom of the dead. And it was at this bridge that the epic heroes held back the onslaught of serpents and miracles from the other world. The origin of the name "Kalinov" has nothing to do with the viburnum shrub. In the Old Russian language, the word "viburnum" meant a red-hot state of the metal. After all, the bridge was thrown over the Fiery River. It heated up, heated up and from this was named the Kalinov bridge. In the Dzhily-Su tract, the mountain river Kyzylkol descends from the glaciers of Elbrus, which in translation from Balkar means "red gorge" or "fiery gorge". This name is explained by the fact that along the banks of the river there are many outcrops of volcanic tuff of red and brown color. In one of the narrow rocky places along this river there is a stone plug that allows you to cross from one side of the river to the other. It was this very bridge, laid by nature over the “fiery” Kyzylkol River, that was named the Kalinov Bridge. So anyone can visit the habitats of the Serpent-Gorynovichs, or rather the Zmeev-Elbrusovichs))) ... It's time for the author to sanctify the topic of epic mother-in-law)))
    1. +3
      5 July 2019 09: 37
      This is already the Mother Snake from the fairy tale "Ivan the Peasant Son and the Miracle Yudo".
  9. BAI
    +3
    5 July 2019 10: 17
    Very interesting. And the author deliberately kept silent about the emblem of Moscow, or is it in the following articles, or missed?
    1. VLR
      +3
      5 July 2019 12: 28
      It depicts St. George striking a dragon: it is a symbol common to all Christian countries.
    2. +1
      5 July 2019 19: 10
      This is not our Serpent. It does not count. St. George - He is from Rome.
      The author conducted everything according to our sources. Exhaustively.
  10. +2
    5 July 2019 10: 26
    I would like to add one more comment. Thanks to the author, I finally understood who the Gorynych Serpents are. Before this material, I naively and firmly "believed" that dragons existed in Russia)))). In my understanding, now the Serpent Gorynych is a Polovtsian who lived in Kiev under the Prince. This is how the fairy tale comes true! I look forward to continuing the "exposure" of my childhood illusions ...
    1. +2
      5 July 2019 10: 48
      I have the impression that the administrator does not want me to read the Military Review and express my attitude to the published materials ??? You won't be cute forcibly))) When communicating with friends, I sometimes recommend looking at the materials on VO, now I won't. For this is not an open site, but a "get-together" site.
    2. VLR
      +3
      5 July 2019 10: 49
      A Polovtsian of tsarist origin (the word "Serpent" is clearly used in many epics as a title), and later, out of habit, the Tartar, and does not have to live in Kiev - more often, just outside the Russian lands. But in Kiev, it seems, they lived: in the epic "Dobrynya and Marinka" such a hero found in the house of that very sorceress Marinka. And the Serpent Gorynych reproaches Dobrynya:
      "I call those children a redneck,
      The village and the occupant;
      Why are you, Dobrynya, shot at the window,
      You broke the window-glass,
      Did you break the glass mirror? "
      Then, running away:
      "Run, he, the Serpent, conjures:
      "God forbid to visit Marina in the house,
      She has more than one friend "
      And Marinka him:
      “Go back, dear hope, come back, friend!
      Hey, I Will wrap the curse with a water carrier?
      Will become de Dobrynya on me and on you to carry water;
      And do you want me, Will I make a wrapped up round with a bay tour? ”
      In general, obviously, some noble Polovtsian with Dobrynya did not share the girl.
      1. +1
        5 July 2019 11: 46
        Maybe you are right, I am not an expert on epics (probably a lot of what I read in this cycle of materials is not only interesting for me, but also new). If I completely agree with the term "Serpent", then I understand the concept of "Gorynych" as follows: Mountain - among the ancient Slavs, this could mean power (Kiev is based on a hill, and other "fortresses" are basically the same). So there is such a Russian game "King of the Hill" - who can not only break through to the top, but also stay on top, is the winner, that "King of the Hill". So I draw the conclusion that the Serpent ("Kai") is a Polovtsian of a noble family, and "Gorynych" - this rather shows his proximity to the Prince ("King of the Hill") and his place of residence inside the fortress, whether in the status of an ambassador, an honored guest or a hostage. It can be assumed that the Polovtsians lived near the fortress wall, and not all of these "snakes" were allowed into the fortress. I can imagine the following picture: two women are standing in the market, which is not in the Fortress, but on the river bank, and they see a Polovtsian riding. One another: - Here's another snake rushing, come in large numbers here !!! - Yes, you would have held your tongue, this is a guest of our Prince, he lives on the mountain at the prince's courtyard. Look, the princely servants will hear so they will immediately shorten the language. It's a joke, or maybe it was. If I do not understand the term "Garynych" correctly, correct - I am not a specialist in epics, I can think of anything for myself)))
  11. +1
    5 July 2019 11: 31
    and who such korkodil in our latitudes? What thoughts on this account?
    1. +4
      5 July 2019 12: 31
      Quote: Tlauicol
      and who is the cortex in our latitudes?

      What a prince, a gangster. I found what:
      MV Lomonosov, who described the legend of the Magus turning into a corcodile, interpreted it as follows: “This should be understood that the mentioned prince on Lake Ladoga and on the Volkhov River, or the muddy river then called, was robbed and called its carnivore by its ferocity the beast. "
      And more:
      The Korkodinovs are a Russian princely family, a branch of the princes of Smolensk.
      The Korkodinov clan stopped in the late XVII or early XVIII centuries. His name is preserved in the name of the village of Spas-Korkodino, Moscow Region.
    2. +2
      5 July 2019 14: 00
      Quote: Tlauicol
      and who such korkodil in our latitudes? What thoughts on this account?

      Korkodil is an aquatic beast, always having a man of yasti, weeps and sobs, but the yasti never ceases "
      (ABC of the late XVI, "Legends of the Russian people").
      Korkodil is a great beast, but the fish is from head to tail, its legs are four and the tail is great and sharp, and its ridge is one bone, like black stone and zooostren like thorns, saw teeth, always zinet, there is all ousta.
      (The time-table of George the Monk)
      Korkodil animal. Imat head basiliskovu. And the ridge of his aki is a comb, and the trunk of serpents, and when he tears the head of the body off, it is in vain crying on it. The trunk beats on them is angry. And always zinet, then the whole mouth is

      Given that near Kiev in the X - XI centuries. there were lions and cheetahs, why not "corcodiles" are found in the rivers. The description is too eloquent.
      Or I also liked it:
      Korkodil beast is, and always devours a person and leaves
      single head nededenu, lance caught from Vlasov
      human and hypocrisy coming crying over the head
      Thou hast created sin, thou hast a human being. From his fierceness
      tears will lead away from the head, he will also head the snest

      ("Slavic bestiary")
      In addition, it may not be very informative, but, in any case, entertaining: smile
      https://nethistory.su/blog/43393196278/I-ved-lovili!-Krokodilov!-Na-Volge!?nr=1
      1. +3
        5 July 2019 14: 11
        Yes, the lions in Novosib live at -40 in aviaries, but hardly in a crocodile. and then in the 16th century? means allegory or direct fiction
        1. 0
          5 July 2019 16: 04
          the lions in Novosib live at -40 in open-air cages, but hardly in a crocodile

          California was shown last year, there was frost and local crocodiles hibernated, freezing in ice. When the ice melted, and the crocodiles came to a head.
          So maybe they can survive our winter like frogs.
          1. +3
            5 July 2019 16: 32
            I think that crocodiles could really be found in Russian rivers right up to the Little Ice Age and not even be a wonder at that time. Of course, not like in the Nile, smaller, but why not? The same Kuban, Volga - in the lower reaches crocodiles could well live and now. And maybe they live, who knows? The Volga Delta is such a place that if there is something like this there, I personally would not be very surprised.
            1. +2
              5 July 2019 16: 40
              That you are strong. No traces remained, unlike mammoths and woolly rhinos.

              So I think, how many from the Volga to the nearest area of ​​the crocodile?

              And so, of course. And there is confirmation:
              "Woe, woe - crocodile
              He swallowed the sun in the sky "(c).
              1. +4
                5 July 2019 17: 07
                Quote from Korsar4
                No trace left

                I do not say that they were. Could be, as were the lions and cheetahs. smile
                And traces ... The territories around the reservoirs, in which only crocodiles could be found, were precisely the most densely populated at that time, river terraces and floodplains were thrown open ... In short, theoretically, our ancestors could kill crocodiles as agricultural pests, and from bones whistles for children to make. smile
                In general, everything can be explained. I definitely would not have put money on this hypothesis (the presence of crocodiles in Russia), but I would not even theoretically deny this possibility.
                1. +3
                  5 July 2019 17: 13
                  With cheetahs, I see. It is no coincidence - a princely gift.

                  Lions, probably, could be found. I don’t remember which subspecies. In the head - the Turkestan lion climbs.

                  But crocodiles, but relatively recently.

                  What time did our rivers not freeze?

                  In general, offhand, this hypothesis is rejected by me.
                  1. +3
                    5 July 2019 17: 44
                    My grandfather told me that when he was still a little boy, in the summer they worked with my father (my great-grandfather) on the mow on the bank of the Luga. My grandfather with his friends, the same boys, threw a stick to the dog, she brought it, everyone had fun. Someone threw a stick into the river, the dog swam and suddenly - plop! - splash and no dog, only circles in the water. And the dog, according to the grandfather, was the size of a small fox, in fact, not a lapdog or toy terrier. Then the men decided that it was just a big pike. What if - "Korkodil"? smile
                    1. +5
                      5 July 2019 17: 50
                      Hefty pike quite explains. They can live 100 years. And catfish in general grow as a monster.

                      In general, the topic is very interesting.

                      I looked now - cheetahs are confirmed.

                      The most popular version is that the lion was a leopard. As in the famous story with Vladimir Monomakh.

                      But what happened to the climate during the small climatic optimum, and what happened with the onset of the small ice age. And how the fauna reacted to this is a big question.
                      1. +3
                        5 July 2019 18: 22
                        Cheetahs are the parduses of our annals. Before the Mongol-Tatar invasion, our princes even hunted with them.
                        About - lions. Aristotle mentioned the lions of the northern Black Sea region, and he was supposed to understand them. Although I do not think that he personally was in the Scythian steppes.
                        About crocodiles, but the devil knows him.
                        Regards, Vlad!
                      2. +2
                        5 July 2019 18: 39
                        There were still Balkan lions during Aristotle. But it is believed that they did not survive to the Middle Ages.
                      3. +4
                        5 July 2019 19: 01
                        Sergei, what if someone from the boyar opposition did the same in a hunt to invent Monomakh's lime?
                        Ordered an African lion. On the way from the Varangians to the Greeks they delivered him, and then they lowered him to the prince? Laughing History does not like troubles, but suddenly vice versa? Having read Plutarch, Monomah longed for feats like Hercules? I ordered a lion in Africa .......... laughing
                        The most interesting thing in the will of Vladimir Monomakh is practically the pantheon of the red book - a tour, wild horses! And we do not believe that our ancestors ate mammoths!
                      4. +1
                        5 July 2019 19: 04
                        This is for Fandorin. Interpretation of the "Motley Ribbon" in the Grand Duke Menagerie.

                        What plot is missing.
                      5. +1
                        5 July 2019 21: 27
                        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                        Cheetahs are the parduses of our annals. Before the Mongol-Tatar invasion, our princes even hunted with them.

                        As an option, Caucasian mountain leopards.
                      6. +2
                        5 July 2019 19: 58
                        Quote from Korsar4
                        The most popular version is that the lion was a leopard.

                        For a leopard, trees and monkeys are needed, the steppes are not suitable for him. smile Lions and cheetahs hunt ungulates that roam the steppes.
                        In our forests, the role of leopards is partly played by lynx, but since we have no monkeys in the forests (although, depending on who is considered to be a monkey smile ), then the lynx grows small compared to the leopards in Africa.
                      7. +2
                        5 July 2019 20: 22
                        Stop. And what did the princes of Kiev not hunt in the forests? And the Far Eastern leopard does without a monkey diet.
                      8. +3
                        5 July 2019 21: 53
                        Quote from Korsar4
                        Far Eastern leopard does without monkey diet

                        Therefore, they are so few smile , and they are smaller in size by almost a quarter than their African brothers. And in general, the Far East is a unique zone - "Crimean latitude, Kolyma longitude". There is a lot of things there that don't exist in nature. smile
                        The classic leopard is "sharpened" for hunting primates - this is its main diet. Our prehistoric ancestors have had enough of it - Mom, do not grieve. How many first people they ate - it's scary to think, and if, as some people like to think here, take into account their unborn descendants, then hardly anyone has caused more damage to the human population than leopards.
                        And I have never heard that someone was hunting with leopards. And it would be strange for a leopard to submit to its former prey. smile
                      9. +2
                        5 July 2019 22: 17
                        They didn’t hunt with a leopard.

                        Bagira is a textbook example.

                        And since the story with Monomakh is classical, they even modeled the situation with the beast jumping on a horse.

                        We found out that for Leo - too heavy for a jump. Lynx is too small.

                        Even the weight determined hypothetical beast - from 50 to 100 kg.
                        And associated with the possible northern border of the leopard range.

                        Although, I saw a tiger jump from a place up for an unfortunate chicken. This is a sight.
                      10. +2
                        6 July 2019 15: 46
                        A couple of dozen leopards live in Israel. In the mountainous desert
                        Arava. Near the popular tourist place Ein Gedi.
                        They are guarded, of course. Sometimes IR surveillance cameras
                        Kibbutz Ein Gedi captures them.
                      11. +2
                        5 July 2019 20: 34
                        Lions do not hunt, only lionesses hunt. The most dangerous animal in Africans is the leopard. Further, oddly enough, the hippo. Lions and crocodiles, somewhere at the end of dozens.
                      12. +2
                        5 July 2019 21: 42
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        Lions do not hunt, only lionesses hunt.

                        This is in the prides. And loners are completely hunting themselves.
                      13. 0
                        6 July 2019 08: 50
                        I agree. But the males who failed to create a pride live much less than the "family" ones.
                      14. +1
                        6 July 2019 10: 17
                        You will not believe, but with single men - the same garbage fellow
                      15. +4
                        5 July 2019 22: 57
                        Quote: Trilobite Master
                        For a leopard, trees and monkeys are needed, the steppes are not suitable for him.

                        Michael, you do not confuse a leopard with a jaguar? The leopard just lives in a half-savannah and feeds mainly on ungulates, a cat. happily graze under his favorite tree (1 (Adyn) pieces of wood, per 100 m2).
                      16. +3
                        5 July 2019 23: 14
                        As far as I understand, leopards live both in forests and savannahs. With which we can agree that both the monkeys and people suffered from them.
                      17. +3
                        5 July 2019 23: 37
                        Quote from Korsar4
                        As far as I understand, leopards live both in forests and savannahs.

                        In forests and semi-savannas, forest-steppes. The bare steppe is not for them. Those. - trees are important for them, but monkeys are not very.)))
                    2. +3
                      5 July 2019 19: 14
                      Soma is to blame. Almost a crocodile. Only on the earth does not walk.
                      1. +1
                        5 July 2019 20: 23
                        Yes. The photo from the graduate student is just monsters. The unit of measure is a shovel.
                      2. BAI
                        +2
                        5 July 2019 21: 24
                        Here he goes.

                        By the way - the snakehead is called. But he is on the Amur. Who knows what miracles were performed in Russia in the 10th century. Eels creep on the earth, m. then they were bigger.
                      3. +1
                        5 July 2019 21: 47
                        And now snakeheads have already appeared in Moldova. Close world.
                      4. +1
                        6 July 2019 07: 33
                        However, I myself am a pitchfork in the aftermath on the river. Demid took the burbot! Crawled along the mowed grass like a snake.
                  2. +2
                    5 July 2019 21: 35
                    There is no such beast. There was and is, a little, in India, the Asian lion.
                    1. +2
                      5 July 2019 21: 54
                      Yes. Other synonyms for the Asian lion. Confused.
                  3. +1
                    6 July 2019 15: 49
                    "At what time did our rivers not freeze?" ////
                    -----
                    Crocodiles survive this. If the river does not freeze to the bottom.
                    There are pictures of alligators in Florida frozen in ice in ponds.
                    They hibernate, and then come to their senses.
                    And see another post about crocodiles below.
  12. +8
    5 July 2019 12: 08
    Thank you, Valery, great article. And then there are some: "Samsonov, Samsonov ..." smile
    I would also note that the image of a dragon serpent hostile to people is quite universal and is found almost everywhere.
    Personally, I am convinced that the basis of this image (I already, I remember, expressed this point of view) was the observation of the movement of military detachments from some hill. Be it the squad of a baron, a detachment of the Scandinavian king in Europe, the invasion of nomads in Russia or in China, from a great distance such a formation will look like a creeping snake. The fire always accompanied the robbery of rural settlements, the cave - the castle of the feudal lord, where the squad returns after the raid together with the looted goods, prisoners and "red girls" - peyzans taken for fun.
    Lazy European one-headed dragons, seated on piles of treasure - poured barons in their castles. Flying (fast moving) multi-headed snakes of Russian fairy tales and epics - impetuous nomads attacking in several directions on open, steppe terrain, water dragons of medieval Chinese - a flotilla of raiders moving along rivers ...
    The leaders of such detachments give names to the "snake" himself, personify him, hence the binary nature of these villains - their ability to take on the appearance of a human, human needs (for a woman's affection, for example) and actions.
    Well, then - folk fantasy, creativity, based on false rumors, exaggerated stories of eyewitnesses, merchants, travelers, warriors, warriors, etc.
    I apologize if anyone thinks that I apply for the role of "Captain Obvious". smile
    By the way, not so long ago I read somewhere that the fabulous image of Koshchei also has a real prototype in history. The most suitable candidate for this "position" is considered the Yaroslavl and Smolensk prince Fyodor Rostislavich Cherny, who lived in the XNUMXth century. Although, the image of Koshchei, of course, is also collective and cannot be limited to one prototype.
    1. +4
      5 July 2019 16: 33
      Greetings Michael! And today's article made me pay attention to another possible borrowing of “snakes”. Perhaps there is a correlation of the concept of the Scandinavian Dakkar or our rook or beginning? Most of the nose had cut figures including kites and dragons. Although it’s hard to attract all to the Polovtsian threat!
      Regards, Vlad!
      1. +3
        5 July 2019 16: 55
        Glad to see Vladislav. smile hi
        As for the drakkars, then the story may be somewhat different, or rather, some specific touches could be added to it. The fact is that it is in the distribution area of ​​the Scandinavians that the remains of marine reptiles, in particular, mosasaurs, are found more often than other places. I remember reading somewhere that an almost complete skeleton of such a monster was found in Norway in some kind of cave, or somewhere else. The Scandinavian mountains are constantly rising, "growing", so the skeleton was found somewhere at a high altitude. Also, their remains come across in Belgium and Holland. If such finds accompanied the poor Scandinavians at any time, what should they have thought looking at a skeleton 15 m long with a one and a half meter toothed skull? Sea serpent, dragon. And if the skeleton lies at a high altitude, it is definitely also flying.
        In China, by the way, dinosaurs were also right, so the ancient Chinese are also familiar with these problems - how to imagine a "little animal" from the bones found. People have always been busy with fantasy.
        1. +4
          5 July 2019 18: 01
          Michael - this does not deny my version either! Perhaps, given the nature of the fighting of our ancestors and their Viking neighbors on rivers and lakes. On the boats (ship's arm) the Slavs went to Constantinople and Korsun. On the ships, the berg yard made our Alexander Nevsky happy! Any Scandinavian and Slavic vessels had nasal figures in the form of heads of reptiles and animals. Why not consider it as "snakes." To be honest, the idea was inspired by the illustration of a children's book, where roofing felts of dakkara, roofing felts of a boat float out of the fog. A real association with the many-headed “snake”. By the way, civil strife at an early stage was also tied to ship ratification and only later transferred to professional cavalry ...
          Moreover, the story of the “mountain snake” falls well into this canvas, since our ancestors had a negative experience of defeats at sea from ships equipped with Greek fire.
          The only problem of binding (the ancient reservoir) of kites - river and sea with a new threat - the Pechenegs, Polovtsy, Tatar-Mongols ....
          Now about the mythology of the "snake." I myself was a witness to horror stories in elementary school, about "two-headed vipers", "snakes with paws", "snakes singing with poison and stinging stings." And this is in the middle zone of the Urals, where there are only snakes ..... three species (viper, and copperfish).
          What can I say, I myself heard this winter from a colleague about a light gray viper as thick as a thigh. Threw him horror stories about the "fire snake" (a la Bazhaev)! And it seems that he overdid it, a man is really afraid to go to our forest! True, the official version is pliers. So, the anteginesis of “snakes” is present in our blood. By the way, I myself will never touch a snake and will not touch a finger - I'm afraid .....
          By the way, finds of dinosaur remains and dinosaurs are also possible in the territory of ancient Russia, and fantasy she rules everywhere. For example, the beliefs of the Korneys of the inhabitants of Siberia about the "underground beast with two tails - a mammoth"!
          Regards, Vlad!
          1. +2
            5 July 2019 19: 22
            Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
            The only problem of binding (the ancient reservoir) of kites - river and sea with a new threat - the Pechenegs, Polovtsy, Tatar-Mongols ....

            I do not see the problem. smile
            The epic and fairy-tale epic has continuously formed over many centuries, this process was interrupted only in the twentieth century. Everything is mixed, messed up and the motives of the confrontation with the steppe can be traced very clearly.
            As for the image of the snake in mythology, this is a whole storehouse, which is devoted to a lot of research. Even grandfather Freud dealt with this topic. smile
            For me personally, the snake is a symbol of wisdom. I treat reptiles with tenderness. You take it in your hands - it is warm, so velvety, and not at all slimy and cold, as some believe. Just be careful with them, well, so for that they are snakes.
            1. +3
              5 July 2019 20: 03
              Still would! Well this is not amphibian!
            2. BAI
              +2
              5 July 2019 21: 27
              You pick it up - it's warm, so velvety

              Well, a crocodile, really, like that. Touched.
          2. +3
            5 July 2019 19: 58
            Vlad! There was no Birger at the mouth of Izhora in 1240. Not at all! This is the Russian Orthodox epic.
            1. 0
              6 July 2019 07: 52
              Anton! There was no birger, There was no ice battle, the Tatars and the Mongols, too, were not, like the yoke! Instead of Alexander Nevsky, Dad was tilled, etc.
              There were some cute Samsonov super-duper Slavs of the Aryans who, 40 years ago, piled on the Chinese, counted from the creation of the world. They lived in Arkaim, had elongated skulls and communicated telepathically !!!!!!!
              Damn Anton, vacation is harmful - I took all of the above from an excerpt from the REN-TV channel, which I foolishly included in lunch!
              And if you climb into the Internet, then .....
              Near my hometown is Mount Orlova, so some exoterics write about it the following .. smile!
              . The mountain has already accepted New Lemurian energies, gentle and quiet, conducive to the opening of the heart and a joyful perception of the world. In this place we discovered the natural etheric Temple of the Holy Spirit. Through the etheric Temple passes the ancient portal of the Holy Spirit. In place of the stone Chair of Purification, on which we will work, is the Armchair or Throne (on the etheric plane). On the physical plane, in this place, a stone that looks like a chair covered with a thick carpet of moss - the Chair of Purification, on which we ourselves performed purifications and initiations ... "

              And you Berger - netuti !!! Come to visit, we will write about Zarust, as he, sitting on the Eagle Mountain, knew the truth !!!!!!!!!
              Yours!
              1. 0
                6 July 2019 08: 14
                Near my hometown in the Arctic there is a landscape dominant called Bald Mountain. And imagine not the slightest esoteric hysteria about this!
  13. +6
    5 July 2019 15: 12
    I suggest that the author does not stop and continue the cycle about snakes and monsters on a global scale, so to speak. After all, from Mesoamerica to Japan and Indonesia with the Australian aborigines, everyone has their own Serpents.

    This is a page from the Illustrated Book for Children by Friedrich Justin Bertuch.
    Why don't the author continue the glorious tradition.
  14. 0
    5 July 2019 21: 43
    All Russian epics are based on Slavic pagan traditions, which in turn are based on the Aryan Vedas. After the adoption of Christianity by the Slavs, the pagan plots were tied to the new realities - as folk art could, hence all the misunderstandings in the epics.

    Korkodil - distorted Greek κροκόδειλο (crocodile - a creature with a skin similar to pebbles). Foreign travelers across Russia fell victim to a raffle - the locals called the korkodil of old large pikes with scales like pebbles and fins like paws.
    1. 0
      5 July 2019 22: 13
      Another candidate for korkodil - beluga, a predator, lives up to 100 years, up to 9 meters long, weighs up to 2 tons, lives in the Black, Azov and Caspian seas, comes to spawn in the Volga, Don, Dnieper, Dniester and other Azov rivers Black Sea and Caspian Basins
  15. +2
    5 July 2019 21: 46
    Touched article and discussion. Started to dig a little. I got to the bottom of the Spas-Crocodile Monastery near Klin, Moscow province.

    Be that as it may, but impressive.
    1. +1
      5 July 2019 22: 47
      The most convincing version is a typo. But what.
      1. +1
        6 July 2019 10: 27
        It sounds really amazing, even the mood has risen. smile
        1. +1
          6 July 2019 12: 44
          The next wave of a shovel drew Bogdanov’s book “On Crocodiles in Russia”. But it is already worth reading in depth. So, it’s not known when.
  16. +3
    6 July 2019 13: 55
    Crocodiles in general are tenacious creatures. In the United States, in Florida and to the north, alligators
    calmly survive the icing of ponds during frosts.
    They put their noses out and go into hibernation, freezing in ice.
    African crocodiles still lived one and a half thousand years ago
    Middle East to Turkey.
    The famous George the Victorious pierced with a spear a hefty crocodile
    in one of the rivers of Lebanon. He, as a recognized hero, was called
    defeat the reptile local king. The hero came from Lod, where he lived,
    and accomplished his feat.