Perspective CJSC "Magnolia". What is known about him?

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Until recently, the public knew not too much about the promising self-propelled artillery gun "Magnolia". The very fact of its existence was known, and over time, the main features of the architecture and capabilities were announced. At the recent Army-2019 exhibition, the project developers revealed new data. The first official images were published, and with them the main tactical and technical characteristics. All this seriously complements the existing picture and simplifies the evaluation of the project.


Advertising leaflet on the project "Magnolia"




Public information


For the first time, the existence of the CJSC Magnolia project became known in 2018. The New CAO was developed by the Nizhny Novgorod Central Research Institute Burevestnik together with two other samples as part of the development work with the Sketch code. It was reported that the project provides for the installation of a fighting compartment with an 120-mm universal tool on the chassis of a two-link tracked carrier. Such a combat vehicle was intended for artillery formations serving in the Arctic.

Last fall, it was reported that all the prototypes for the RCD "Sketch" had already passed into the final stage of testing. It was argued that in the near future they would have to go into the series and enter the troops.

At the beginning of May, the available data on the appearance of the Magnolia were supplemented with the first images. At the beginning of May, a couple of interesting photos appeared in open access. They depicted a two-link armored vehicle, the rear of which carried a turret with a gun. The rear link was closed with an awning.

At the end of June, within the framework of the “Army-2019” exhibition, the development organization for the first time presented promotional materials on Magnolia. The leaflet was attended by two new photos, as well as the objectives of the project and the main performance characteristics of the perspective sample. Thus, for the first time, it is possible to study real photos and numbers.

According to new data


CAO "Magnolia" has a distinctive appearance. For the first time in domestic practice, an artillery fighting compartment was mounted on a two-link tracked chassis. The basis for the self-propelled gun is a modified all-terrain vehicle DT-30PM “Vityaz” with a five-roll chassis on the front link and with a six-roll on the rear. The front case accommodates the driver's cab, powerplant units, etc. On the basis of the rear made fighting compartment.

Two-link chassis provides high throughput in difficult terrain. It allows you to work effectively in difficult and swampy areas - especially in the Far North. In addition, unification with other “Arctic” equipment samples has been provided. The chassis is equipped with armor and is protected from major threats.

The fighting compartment is installed on the back of the Magnolia - judging by the photo, it was borrowed from the self-propelled 2C31 “Vienna” self-propelled gun, but it has some differences. Above the hull stands the characteristic dome of the tower with an 120-mm gun and various devices on its surface. Main weapon fighting machine - a versatile weapon 2А80, combining the fighting qualities of guns, howitzers and mortars. The design of the tower provides a circular horizontal guidance and the rise of the trunk from -5 ° to + 80 °.


Basic data on the project. In the photo - shooting from a gun 2А80


The instrumentation of the tower was not specified. The new photo shows that the “Magnolia” has no characteristic box-shaped casing with a panoramic sight, present on the “Vienna”. This indicates that, at the request of the customer, the composition of the onboard monitoring and fire control devices was changed in the new project.

According to the developer, the maximum firing range of the Magnolia reaches 7-10 km and depends on the type of ammunition used. When using 120-high-explosive fragmentation projectiles, the range of 8,5 km is reached, guided munitions fly by 10 km. Mines of caliber 120 mm are sent to 7 km. Ammunition includes at least 80 shots of all types. The rate of fire reaches 8-10 shots per minute.

The crew of the CJSC "Magnolia" consists of four people. Apparently, one of them is in the cockpit of the front case, while the others work in the fighting compartment of the second.

In promotional materials, the Magnolia task is fire destruction of a wide range of ground and surface targets. The gun can attack manpower and various enemy armored vehicles, air defense and anti-tank guns, artillery and missile systems, buildings and fortifications, amphibious landing craft, etc.

Augmented Picture


Thanks to fresh advertising materials, we can present the overall appearance of the promising IJSC Magnolia, as well as the characteristics and combat capabilities of this vehicle. In combination with already known data, recent reports allow us to make a more detailed picture, as well as to make certain assessments.

For the artillery units of the Arctic, the CAO is being created on an improved cross-country chassis adapted to the special conditions of the region. At the same time, the possibility of operating such equipment in other difficult areas is not excluded. The two-link transporters of the Vityaz family have already shown and proved their high potential, and also have been tested as carriers of weapons. Now all their advantages will be used to strengthen the artillery in remote areas.

In the fighting compartment, the new “Magnolia” is maximally unified with the existing “Vienna”. This in a known manner simplifies the construction and operation of advanced equipment. In addition, staff training is simplified.

Unification with the existing sample also allows you to retain all its characteristic advantages. Like other domestic systems of the “gun-shot” ballistic scheme, the new CAO “Magnolia” is able to use a wide range of ammunition of various types and different purposes, allowing to solve all arising problems. In fact, the gun replaces the guns for direct fire, as well as howitzers and mortars for firing from closed positions.


Experienced CJSC "Magnolia" in May 2019


Thus, an artillery self-propelled gun is proposed for operation in the Arctic, combining the high mobility of a two-link chassis and a combat compartment with universal armament. An important consequence of this is the ability to solve various combat missions using only one type of equipment.

On the way to the troops


According to reports last fall, all three self-propelled guns of the ROC "Sketch" were being tested and were nearing completion. At the same time, the deadlines for the completion of such events were not specified. In recent days, it has become known that Magnolia and other promising systems are still being tested and are not yet ready for service.

How soon the advanced technology will complete the tests and receive a recommendation for adoption is unknown. It is also not entirely clear when a prototype or a serial model of Magnolia will be shown to the public and specialists. Two other representatives of the draft “Sketch” have already been demonstrated “in metal”, while the self-propelled gun on the Vityaz chassis is still shown only in the photo.

It will take some time to complete the current work, check and fine-tune the equipment, as well as launch the mass production. Over the next few years, new models will be able to enter service and begin service. All three CAOs from the Sketch project are built using curious ideas and solutions that enhance the tactical and technical characteristics.

According to the results of the “Magnolia” project, the Arctic units will receive a new self-propelled artillery self-propelled gun, which will give them a serious increase in firepower. In addition, in the future, such a model of equipment will provide a significant advantage over the likely adversary who plans actions in the regions of the Far North. In a hypothetical confrontation in the Arctic, the Russian army will have serious artillery arguments.
  • Ryabov Kirill
  • Central Research Institute "Burevestnik", Russianarms.ru
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  1. 0
    3 July 2019 05: 04
    Interestingly, will 6 "fit into this system?
    1. +1
      3 July 2019 05: 13
      But why?
      This weapon, if adopted, will be produced in very small series. Large-scale operations in the High North and in the Arctic are not expected.
    2. 0
      3 July 2019 11: 37
      Quote: andrewkor
      That's interesting, but 6 "gauge will fit

      like an exhaust pipe of a muffler - yes
    3. 0
      3 July 2019 20: 28
      Quote: andrewkor
      Interestingly, will 6 "fit into this system?

      If desired, everything is possible
      For example, 155 mm

      But the tool will be very complex, and therefore buggy and expensive.
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  2. +3
    3 July 2019 05: 12
    It would be necessary to supply a gun from the "Phlox" self-propelled gun with a firing range of 13 km.
    1. +4
      3 July 2019 06: 45
      Strange data leads the author. If it is true that the fighting compartment is borrowed from Vienna, then officially the firing range is from 0.5 to 14 km., While using ASRM mines, the range reaches 17.5 km. (Wiki)
      1. +3
        3 July 2019 07: 14
        The base can seriously affect the firing range.
        They look at the load when firing, limit the charges on which you can fire
        1. 0
          3 July 2019 12: 35
          But you must admit that it is not logical to cut characteristics so seriously. Using outriggers with a large support area can relieve some of the load from the carrier. I think the presented sample is not a finished product, but a concept that we hastened to show. Weapons for the north are now densely engaged. It is unlikely that devices with truncated characteristics will be shoved there.
          1. 0
            3 July 2019 19: 16
            Quote: garri-lin
            Using outriggers with a large support area can relieve some of the load from the carrier.

            It's more complicated. For example, at "Nona-S", as far as I remember, it was impossible to shoot a projectile on a long-range charge. Although there is a system of "transmission of energy to the ground" more abruptly than any outriggers
            The case itself also experiences stress.
            1. 0
              3 July 2019 19: 21
              If so, it's a shame. Maneuvering in the north is more difficult. And on ordinary snow and on melted. Range with such a limitation of maneuver is better to have maximum. Nadeyus is still incorrect infa. Or disinformation or mistake.
              1. +3
                3 July 2019 20: 17
                Quote: garri-lin
                Nadeyus is still incorrect infa. Or disinformation or mistake.

                Or foolishness again toil, money "mastered"

                Return the 2C1 to service, and that's it. Her passability "by inheritance" is high, add goslings with extenders and that's it for the north. Cross-country ability will be no less than that of the "Vityaz"

                Plus, finish the D-30 to mind, equipping it with a self-propelled system from the "Sprut-B" 2a45. I think they will keep within the weight limits of up to 4 tons. And the weapon will be able to be transported by helicopters in the cargo compartment, well, and move a little within a couple of hundred meters from the landing site to the firing one. And go back to the cargo compartment when changing the fire compartment. Again, for the north, the helicopter is the most.

                You can put the "kulak sawed-off" M-30 on a more adequate (and light) lower machine. And such a Mi-8 cannon will be able to drag on an external sling.

                You can put a mortar from the "Highlander" on a more adequate chassis. Specifically, in this case, the MT-TWT, which, by the way, has less ground pressure than the Vityaz, 0.27 versus 0.29 for the two-link.

                And do not need any of these obscure cars.
                1. 0
                  3 July 2019 21: 23
                  Well, in principle, I agree with everything. One caveat, the weather. In the cold of the Arctic, work from the ground is almost impossible. Especially in the wind. But from the heated cabin you can shoot. Although, in bad weather, the enemy will not fight much. Well and pressure on the ground. A knight can pull himself out due to double linking. We can say that one unit of the knight is less passable than the entire rally everywhere.
                  1. 0
                    3 July 2019 21: 35
                    Quote: garri-lin
                    In the cold of the Arctic, work from the ground is almost impossible.

                    My personal record is 32, still a cadet. Shooting is possible. But the infantry is unlikely to act in such conditions

                    Quote: garri-lin
                    But from the heated cabin you can shoot.

                    Will not work. Gunpowder gases. Therefore, either shoot, pumping cold air through the ventilation, or bask. In short, the same thing, only colder, since mobility is limited.

                    Quote: garri-lin
                    A knight can pull himself out due to double linking.

                    No, he doesn’t pull anything out. On a very rough terrain, due to the coupling device, it is really possible to slightly increase the cross-country ability, but at the same time there is a negative point - large turning radii. You can forget about the turn in place.
                    Well, don't forget, MT-LB continues to move after landing on its belly. So she does not need to be perverted "bending over" as two-linkers - you, apparently, about this.
                    1. 0
                      3 July 2019 21: 49
                      At -36 I could only walk. Actively working at 32 degrees of cold is unthinkable for me, but I'm from the south. I didn’t think so. And I didn’t think about the need for ventilation.
  3. +8
    3 July 2019 05: 32
    This "Magnolia" outwardly resembles either an armored train or a technique of the WWI period
  4. +1
    3 July 2019 06: 27
    maybe this stuccion for marshy areas is necessary, maybe in the sands, but to be honest, the concept of application is doubtful
  5. Oct
    +1
    3 July 2019 07: 45
    Are we preparing for war in the Arctic?
    1. +2
      3 July 2019 08: 07
      It is unlikely that serious clashes with a potential adversary are possible in the Arctic. But as a weighty argument for "staking out" a place for itself, this system is vital. It makes no sense to apply it in any other region.
  6. +1
    3 July 2019 10: 17
    Given the theater of action, in the marshy terrain of the far north, involving the actions of highly maneuverable combat groups on snowmobiles in winter, a heavy and slow art installation on an articulator will not keep up with mobile groups.
    In the summer, access to heavy non-amphibious equipment is limited.
    Amphibious equipment is slow, its military options are vulnerable even to certain types of small arms.
    For example, the speed of the pipelinesporter (type ATC-340) for the construction of pipelines in marshlands is reduced to 2-3 km / h, which is enough to carry out, for example, restoration work on pipelines, eliminating oil spills, etc.



    But for military use and 10-15 km an hour through the swamp - this is not much.

    I doubt that military operations are generally possible in the conditions of the marshland of the far north in the summer.
    1. +2
      4 July 2019 22: 37
      The most difficult thing is to lure the enemy into this area. smile
      1. 0
        5 July 2019 09: 35
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The most difficult thing is to lure the enemy into this area. smile


        :)) that's for sure.
        True, this area produces 70% of the export potential of the Russian Federation - oil, gas, gas condensate.
        But these are more likely targets for the Kyrgyz Republic than for commando units.

        white lines - gati strewn through swamps to gas-bearing deposits.

        The bearing capacity of the soil surface is not in summer :)
  7. 0
    3 July 2019 12: 38
    And why didn’t they put the BO from the SPG Lotus? He and TTX higher and unification ...
    1. 0
      3 July 2019 15: 00
      Quote: bars1
      And why didn’t they put the BO from the SPG Lotus? He and TTX higher and unification ...

      The gun is the same.
      1. 0
        3 July 2019 19: 28
        Lotus has a longer barrel length.
        1. 0
          3 July 2019 19: 43
          Quote: bars1
          Lotus has a longer barrel length

          ?
          The length of the "Lotus" trunk seems to be not indicated anywhere. But the indicated firing range is 13 km. The same as in the "Vena" when firing conventional shells on a long-range charge.

          Strictly speaking, yes, the tools are different. At least, there is a muzzle brake, as on the "Host" 2C34. That is, in theory, this is not 2A80, but 2A80-1
          But the ballistics should be the same.
  8. 0
    3 July 2019 22: 22
    This land cruiser turned out. :) And the question also arises, why should such a garden be fenced for the sake of a weak, in general, 120 mm gun? Indeed, as already said, can it be easier to modify the same Carnation? Something tells us that four Carnations will come out cheaper than this monster.
  9. +1
    3 July 2019 23: 23
    And yet - is this tool suitable for road transport? Simply put - will fit in the IL-76?
  10. 0
    23 August 2019 20: 27
    In the north, it is better to use towed guns, store them in hangars.

    The fewer parts you need, the less problems.

    When there are no roads, air transportation is the best option.

    When there are roads, military equipment arrives on railway platforms.
  11. 0
    27 September 2019 07: 13
    To be honest, I don’t understand why the Russian army has such a wide variety of art systems? In the case of a real war, how can this be provided and maintained? Weren't the military supporters of arms unification?

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