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"..and our tanks are fast," or Ukraine is the eternal daughter-in-law

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Amnesty International reported with traditionally mournful sadness that in South Sudan, the government army is using purchased from Ukraine Tanks for shelling civilian targets. And she clarified: “The secret deliveries of these battle tanks from Ukraine to Sudan in 2009 were carried out through Kenya and Uganda by transport companies from Germany, Ukraine, Britain and companies registered on the Isle of Man.” Such a crafty clarification, even with factual errors, follows say, human rights defenders do not face without fear and reproach, but all in order.


Who is fighting now in South Sudan, still a fresh state (July 2011) after the partition of the largest country in Africa? The government army (more recently, the People’s Liberation Army of South Sudan) with the Allies again recently - the Liberation Army of South Sudan and the Democratic Army. What unhappy with the recent allies in the struggle (almost 50 years) for separation from the North? The fact that President Salva Cyrus preferred the formation of the ruling establishment to the natives of the Dinka tribe. The oppositionists are serious - they promise to “burn the fire so badly that Salva Kier will flee to Kenya, where he has already bought two villas for his family.” Separately, in the statements of the opposition gets the United States - the patron of the government, and the American business warns about the disastrous consequences if he intends to invest in South Sudan "before the final liberation of the revolutionary forces from the tribal dictator."

In parallel, it should be noted, the government army of Southern Sudan fights with the army of the Sudan of the north because of the disputed region of Heglig, where 75% of all oil reserves that had withdrawn after the division of the north Sudan are concentrated.
The fact that the southerners have tanks from Ukraine, was never a secret. In particular, from the sad memory of the Faina cargo ship captured by Somali pirates in September 2008. Then very quickly the press got a copy of a cargo declaration stating that the final recipient of tanks, anti-aircraft guns and grenade launchers is the government of Southern Sudan. Officials of Ukraine and Kenya in unison screamed that the contract was concluded only between them as part of the program to rearm the Kenyan army. And the annoying GOSS abbreviation that comes across in the text (by that time, the familiar and decoded by everyone only Government of South Sudan (the government of South Sudan) is just an abbreviation of some economic department in the Kenya Ministry of Defense ... In 2010, the release of secret The dispatch from Wikileaks gave a complete picture of what actually happened before, during and after the capture of Faina.

Two days after the capture of Faina by the pirates, then US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice sent dispatches to the embassies in Ukraine, Russia and Latvia setting the task of finding out what the reaction of these countries could be if the Americans sink Fainu (from 21 person 17 crews had Ukrainian citizenship, 3 - Russian and 1 - Latvian). It was supposed to launch the cargo ship to the bottom with all the equipment and people under the noble excuse not to let it fall weapons Islamists from the Al-Shabab movement in Somalia. Outwardly, it looks logical, but it does not stand up to check: trying to pirates to bargain with the Islamists is a dangerous business, because they will not just take the goods for nothing, but also behead them for godless business, which they consider to be a pirate craft. A more reasonable version seems to be that Washington was concerned about the danger of disrupting peace agreements between the Sudanese government in Khartoum and the rebels of the South 2005, under which the South gained autonomy and the right to hold a referendum on full independence six years later. It has never been a secret that the USA supported the southerners in all the years of the war with money and weapons. In the latter, zeal was also shown by Israel - it is therefore not an accident that a ship was chosen to transport Ukrainian weapons, whose owner was a former citizen of Odessa. At the same time, official Khartoum was the sworn enemy of the United States: Sudan was constantly on the list of countries "supporting international terrorism." Back in 1998, wanting to divert public attention from the investigation, how and how Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky trained at the Oval Office, the President gave the order to bomb a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan, which provided almost all of Africa with medicines - under the pretext that there, they say that chemochat with weapons of mass destruction. Without leaving a whole brick in place of the plant, they did not find anything forbidden there. But the benefit was tangible. Who do you think came to the African drug market? Right! At the beginning of 2000, save the Darfur! Campaign was launched (with George Clooney's face) accusing the government of Khartoum of “genocide” in the western province of Darfur. It was even possible to get in the International Criminal Court (by the way, the jurisdiction of which the United States themselves do not recognize) the arrest warrant for Sudanese President Omar Bashir. The “Darfur Campaign” was aimed not only at changing the government of Sudan - including through intervention, not only dividing the largest country in Africa into several subordinate states, but also ousting China from there, which had already become heavily dependent on Sudanese oil. And here it is impossible not to note the amazing flexibility of the Chinese: already on the eve of the independence of South Sudan they managed to establish mutual understanding with his government, they volunteered to build an oil pipeline - an alternative to the north, and also, according to the same message of Amnesty International, managed to arm the opposition with mines with which they now block the movement of government troops ...

But the Arab countries, first of all, the closest allies of the United States, always stood firmly on the side of Sudan. Therefore, the agreement on the division of the country was given as a result of exhausting negotiations and between them. Because of Faina, all of this could have been covered with a copper basin - Khartoum would have every reason to announce a violation of the agreement signed in 2005 with unpredictable consequences ... Interestingly, two months before the capture of Faina by pirates - in July - the US officials contacted the Ukrainians about the planned supply, and - it looks like this - strongly advised that the deal should be framed exclusively with Kenya, that is, God forbid, not to light South Sudan. Moreover, the Americans were well aware that a year earlier, South Sudanese had already left 67 tanks from Ukraine through the same Kenya! Moreover, Kenyans frankly dedicated their counterparts to plans for moving cargo from their territory - sometimes with the inclusion of Uganda - to the final consumer.

The new 2009 was replaced by the head of the White House. Barack Obama, as I remember, promised a new and fair policy in the Middle East and beyond, but did not blame all sins on his predecessor, but set about searching for daughters-in-law, who are categorically appointed guilty of all shameful things. As follows from the dispatches with the Wikileaks, the new State Department officials demanded that Kiev and Nairobi take over and even threatened with sanctions with an impressive justification: because they supplied weapons to Sudan, which is on the "list of countries supporting international terrorism." It seems logical: formally, South Sudan was still part of Sudan, with the government in Khartoum and the hated President Omar Bashir at the head. But Washington didn’t prevent it from doing the same within the framework of the announced program of “reforming the security sector of South Sudan”. There would be Ukrainian officials and a knock on the Washington guest with a finger on the forehead: “Isn't it crazy about a transatlantic flight?” But no, everyone listened dutifully and again swore - as stated in the message - “to remain a reliable partner.” Kenyans, however, due to natural naivety, babbled something: they say, how is it that your old Bush said that everything was all right, all the way, and you now say what is wrong, you, whites, will not understand. ..

After a statement from Amnesty International, Skorenko voiced a certain “source close to the state-owned company Ukrspetsexport,” who found a fig leaf for Ukraine-daughter in law - “the expired statute of limitations”, as he put it. What is interesting, did not begin to bring down the former - “orange” - power, they say, she got into trouble. Corporate solidarity works - every former power in this structure leaves a contract that brings in a year - officially - almost a billion dollars in profit. For such money, you can provide a homeland "in the bride" in!
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  1. Ataturk
    Ataturk 3 July 2012 06: 58
    +5
    Both the Russian and Ukrainian tank building schools are Soviet, and this is the best school !!!
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 3 July 2012 07: 38
      +2
      I agree with you! But what's next? Technology and war strategy have stepped in front! What are our opportunities today!
      1. Ataturk
        Ataturk 3 July 2012 07: 59
        +3
        Quote: tronin.maxim
        I agree with you! But what's next? Technology and war strategy have stepped in front! What are our opportunities today!


        No matter how paradoxical it would look, but the SOVIET technique, although they judged it by the fact that it is outdated, but in fact, was ahead of its time.

        Hitler took quality, Stalin quantity, but history has shown that the Soviet school could improve quality with quantity. To which there is not a little evidence. The sight of the Germans was horrified by the sight of the T-34. According to running data, he was the best in his time.

        And now that we have T-72, T-80 and T-90
        Americans say their tank is better. But, at the same time, they are silent about the fact that the Abrams engine is often clogged and it takes time and strength and labor to clean it. And in the T-90 this problem was solved with one button.

        They praised their armor, but the Iraq war showed the truth.
        I am not a tanker, but in my opinion, not only in Russia, but in the entire former union, there are no officers who could tactfully use tanks. The tank strategy is either outdated or something. I will never forget the first Chechen company, when so many tanks inside Grozny were destroyed. The question is, what idiot is to blame for this?

        Russian tanks do not need to be changed. They can still be upgraded. Although I am confident that a new project is being built under the pillow of tank builders, but in any case, I believe that the T-90 has not spent its opportunity for Modernization. It must be modernized. And I do not see the need to build a new one. Yes, and times are such that now, to destroy a tank, you don’t need a special mastery, there are so many anti-tank weapons. Now we need to develop the tactics of war. I read in one of the reports.

        I quote their phrase.

        In many wars, where Soviet and Russian equipment participated, even with victory, lost a huge amount of equipment. Tactics are out of date. That is, with an equal amount of strength, the Russian army will lose.

        I read this report.

        During the battles in Korea, North Korea lost 2 or more times its aircraft than South Korea. That is, west, to constantly develop the tactics of introducing a battle. In all branches. As in the ground forces, and the Air Force.

        In a word, a new product should not be released. The fact that there is already a formidable weapon must be increased in number, and the introduction of battle tactics must be improved!

        Regards Omar
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 3 July 2012 09: 35
          +1
          Thanks for the information!
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 3 July 2012 07: 30
    +2
    Tanks need to be sold, tanks! I’m a fool selling cars. Looking for partners to create a business for the implementation of tanks. Trade and distribution wassat
    1. pribolt
      pribolt 3 July 2012 07: 48
      +1
      Quote: Alexander Romanov

      Tanks need to be sold, tanks! I’m a fool selling cars. Looking for partners to create a business for the implementation of tanks. Trade and distribution


      Tank trading is certainly a profitable business. But there are two but, the first where you take tanks? second there are vicious examples of Victor Bout.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 July 2012 07: 56
        +1
        Quote: pribolt

        Tank trading is certainly a profitable business. But there are two but, the first where you take tanks

        So I'm looking for business partners laughing
        1. pribolt
          pribolt 3 July 2012 07: 59
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          So I'm looking for business partners


          I offer better nuclear bombs laughing
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 3 July 2012 08: 17
            +6
            pribolt,
            Your proposal is already carefully considered in the FSB laughing Do not go far from the computer, they will come to you soon
            1. pribolt
              pribolt 3 July 2012 10: 24
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Your proposal has already been carefully considered in the FSB. Far from the computer, do not leave, they will come to you soon


              I have to go for a long time laughing lol laughingCan not wait
        2. Odious
          Odious 3 July 2012 11: 40
          0
          Alexander Romanov (3) Today, 07:56 ↑ 0
          Quote: pribolt

          Tank trading is certainly a profitable business. But there are two but, the first where you take tanks
          So I'm looking for business partners

          Do not look for a long time, I will tell you, but here is a reference: http: //www.demilitary.su/
          Good luck in business!
      2. Kaa
        Kaa 3 July 2012 11: 10
        +3
        Victor Bout is a pitiful dilettante in comparison with the Ukrainian "Armory Barons".
        And it was not necessary in 1991 in Ukraine to throw so much weapons. Now it is only business, nothing personal.
        People’s deputy, chairman of the Verkhovna Rada’s Provisional Investigation Commission to verify the facts of the illegal trade in arms and military property and their illegal transfer to other countries, Sergei Sinchenko said that during 1992-1997. $ 132 billion worth of arms and military property was illegally taken out of Ukraine ... More than $ 32 billion worth of arms and military property was stolen and sold ... S. Sinchenko also noted that Ukraine inherited from the Soviet Union weapons and military equipment to support the 10 millionth army. In 1996, about 114 firms and companies sold our military legacy left and right! The first violations of Ukraine’s international obligations were arms deliveries to Croatia and Bosnia. According to an expert from the Center for Defense at the University of London, Dr. James Gow, Ukraine supplied large quantities of weapons to Croatia at an unofficial level. In fact, official government organizations involved in the arms trade were a screen and carried out no more than 20% of operations for the supply of critical goods from Ukraine. The remaining 80% of the trade was in the hands of the shadow structures. The underground arms dealers known to Interpol, Schulz and Shalk-Golodkovsky, hiding behind high-level patrons, “knocked out” the Tunguska and Tor anti-aircraft missile systems at the Ministry of Defense, various types of missiles, small arms and ammunition. Former General Director of LLC “UkrAviaZakaz” Evdokimov V.V. In violation of the requirements of the International Rocket Technology Control Regime, of which Ukraine has been a member since 1998, in April 2000, on fake documents, arranged for the export of 6 (six!) X-55 SM long-range air-launched cruise missiles to China. It was transferred to Macedonia: 1. Tank T-72 - 31 pcs.; 2. BTR-80 - 22 pcs.; 3. Aircraft SU-25 - 4 pcs.; 4. MI-24 helicopter - 12 pcs.; 5. MI-8MT helicopter - 2 pcs.; 6. Grad multiple launch rocket system - 6 pcs.; 7. A large number of aircraft missiles and others. The long-term tendency of the Prosecutor General's Office to close criminal cases initiated on the facts of the illegal sale of weapons and military equipment, the understatement of the cost of military property and facilities, indicates that all these cases are high-ranking officials.
        And in the end - the most piquant: According to the documentation and accounting, which are located in Ukraine, 2633 units of nuclear warheads were exported, in fact, 2883 units of nuclear warheads were delivered to Russia. Thus, the difference between the number of nuclear warheads transferred by Ukraine and accepted by Russia is 250 (two hundred and fifty!) Units! at a residual value of 52,7 (fifty two and seven tenths) of a million US dollars. - Journalist Gennady USTINOV http://www.gpu.com.ua
        This is not a trifle in your pockets to rub. “All modern large capitalist states have been acquired by criminal means” - “Golden Calf”
        1. pribolt
          pribolt 3 July 2012 13: 53
          0
          Quote: Kaa
          Victor Bout is a pitiful dilettante in comparison with the Ukrainian "Armory Barons".


          I have no doubts about the Ukrainian "Armory Barons", they even shoot films in Hollywood
    2. volcano
      volcano 3 July 2012 08: 01
      +1
      Greetings to you, Alexander.
      A T-90 convertible will be? smile
      If yes, then I am the first to order laughing
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 3 July 2012 08: 13
        +4
        And I greet you Andrew. Well, now the first customers have appeared good Henri, as a first customer, you get 10%, plus a promotion, bring a friend and get 200 liters of salary as a gift laughing Tanks, tanks are excellent tanks, installment options.
        1. volcano
          volcano 3 July 2012 08: 44
          +1
          Alexander Thank you very much smile
          So my son asked for another BTR coupe.
          If possible of course laughing And then he says zadolbalo on the way to school to fight off the bears laughing
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 3 July 2012 09: 27
            0
            Buy him a stronger balalaika and a cap with earflaps thicker, and the bears a bucket of vodka ...... to everyone! laughing
      2. igor67
        igor67 3 July 2012 08: 17
        0
        Quote: volkan
        A T-90 convertible will

        and Centurion-Coupe fit? good
        1. volcano
          volcano 3 July 2012 08: 49
          0
          No Dear igor67, will not do.
          Unlike our car industry, in this case I prefer exclusively domestic product smile
          1. igor67
            igor67 3 July 2012 08: 54
            0
            volcano,
            but there was an attempt to shove a foreign car, there is a truth BTR152 on a used one and the condition is not very
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic 3 July 2012 09: 21
              +2
              Quote: igor67
              but there was an attempt to shove a foreign car, there is a truth BTR152 on a used one and the condition is not very


              Better so .. Constant demand for a draft product is guaranteed
              1. igor67
                igor67 3 July 2012 09: 30
                0
                Ascetic,
                Yes, in the evening yesterday there was a sinner, a chilly Lvivsky 1715, drank a glass, I repent
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic 3 July 2012 09: 19
            +3
            Quote: volkan
            Unlike our car industry, in this case I prefer exclusively domestic product


            It is possible and domestic
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 3 July 2012 09: 05
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Tanks need to be sold, tanks! I’m a fool selling cars. Looking for partners to create a business for the implementation of tanks. Trade and distribution


      It’s better to conclude a service and repair agreement with the cabinet. And the income is constant and there are almost no risks. By the way, the joke remembered about repairing the tank.
      Tankers (T) in the middle of the forest, terribly swearing, pulling a caterpillar. Suddenly, the Forest Fairy (F) appears and asks: F: -Tankists, tankers, and what are you doing? T: -Fuck! F: -And you really want to have sex, tastefully? T: Well, of course, we want! Fairy waved her magic wand, and the tower fell off the tank ..

      Russian tankers in the photo. Blow off the enemy! Freeze and lie down !.
  3. Aeneas
    Aeneas 3 July 2012 07: 34
    +1
    Mdaa, Ukraine sells weapons to Africa, and to the same South Sudan. And what? Finally, it’s not a piece of iron that kills, but a man who controls this weapon, and Ukraine cannot prohibit blacks from killing each other. North Sudan has a lot of heavy weapons, and they use it intensively to establish "constitutional order." So the supplies to the southerners were only equalized, so to speak, by strength. Another thing is that in Sudan, or in most other regions of Ahrika, Ukraine is not an authoritative political and economic player. The Americans, the Khfransky, the Chinese are opposed there, the religious factor (Islam) is strong. And Ukraine only has a limited commercial interest, and other players use this interest. For example, Americans or Europeans, it was not kosher to arm Yu Sudan (well, there are human rights, "the world does not need war," interests intersected with allies (Arabs)), and therefore allowed the Sudanese to finish off with the Ukrainian arms lords.
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 3 July 2012 08: 03
      -4
      Quote: Aeneas
      Mdaa, Ukraine sells weapons to Africa


      Sorry, but your government, I don’t understand everything. He sells so many things, concludes contracts so many different things, but I don’t see the result. Either the money goes into the pockets and is not spent for nothing, or you are arming yourself in the quiet.
      1. Aeneas
        Aeneas 3 July 2012 10: 19
        0
        I don’t think that there were any serious cash bonuses from the contract with Sudan. There were repaired T-72s from Ukrainian arsenals from the time of the Union, small arms, grenade launchers, ammunition (if it is a question of Faina’s cargo). Some money was raised by commerce tied to the authorities and slightly tank repair plants. For example, a contract with Ethiopia for 200 T-72s - this is $ 100 million. Still, the sale of new weapons brings serious pennies (contract with Iraq, Thailand)
  4. Igarr
    Igarr 3 July 2012 09: 04
    +1
    Tanks, planes, Faina.
    All this is nonsense passing.
    It is much more interesting how the States behave: with one spoon, mix the jam and shit.
    Yes, what kind of politicians are there - such as a split-frustration of their personality.
    Not amenable to analysis, forecasts - such a behavior.
    They took a pharmaceutical plant rafigachili - this is at least understandable.
    And acting on Sudan as two countries at the same time is difficult for me. The psyche should probably be such a fractured one. Or under the wild kumar.
    The Chinese ... command respect. And with the northern and southern Sudans ... with all the language will be found. That's what it means to meow, you can figure it out in fig hieroglyphs.
    And for Ukraine, people are insulting.
    Climbed, "baronchiki" to trade in weapons.
    Only Ukraine was discussed. And that’s all.
    Well, at least Mother Russia didn’t fall out of this shit.
    1. Aeneas
      Aeneas 3 July 2012 10: 21
      0
      that Mother Russia is arming Sev Sudan. even rebels shot down planes with Russian citizens there. Moscow has always supported Khartoum, although it is not clear what bonuses it had.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 3 July 2012 12: 26
        0
        Russia whom only did not arm.
        Even to the detriment of oneself.
        I'm not talking about that.
        I'm talking about the fact that Russia, at least, is not misunderstood in double standards. And in cunning - we deliver, sort of like to Kenya, but to the governorate of South Sudan.
        Everything is simpler ... either we deliver (including changing the flag in Murmansk, too, the chip is hurt), or - we do not deliver. Because, international uncles said - no way.
        Oh, the naive Soviet Union. He wanted to do everything honestly. And the very scumbags - upstairs, they’ve settled down.
        If you wanted missiles to Cuba, you were lucky. They wanted to grind the UN rostrum with the shoe of the "Red Hammer" plant - they ground it. Wanted to protect Angola, Vietnam - defended. We didn’t make it to Allende in Chile, so we didn’t. They wanted to help Egypt, Syria - they helped.
        But everything was honest.
        And now?
  5. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 3 July 2012 10: 56
    +1
    Yes, the point is that Ukraine is being propped up for any reason, but she just giggles. It is high time to get away from amerovskoy "virtues" and enter the Customs Union.
    1. scrack
      scrack 3 July 2012 11: 44
      +1
      Your words yes in ears Yanukovych
  6. Shumer
    Shumer 3 July 2012 19: 57
    0
    Ehe-heh, Ukraine has sold so much military good over the hill, and it keeps its own army in poverty - - it’s insulting, embarrassing, and generally one mother in this language.
  7. Truth
    Truth 4 July 2012 13: 28
    0
    Quote: Shumer
    ashamed and generally one swearing about it in the language.

    The fact is that swearing is only "in" the language.

    The fact is that the oil-bearing South Sudan - claimed by the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. If such regular Chernukhs pop up in the press, then Ukraine has bypassed the Russian Federation there on the market.