The military considered the number of missiles needed to break through the missile defense system over Moscow

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The military considered the number of missiles needed to break through the missile defense system over Moscow

The military considered the number of missiles needed to break through the missile defense system over Moscow. Major-General Andrei Demin, chief of staff of the Air Defense and Missile Defense Command of the Air and Space Defense Forces of the Russian Federation, said on the Echo of Moscow air, the command proceeds from the fact that a potential enemy in the event of a non-nuclear war against Russia can send to the Moscow area 1 thous. Cruise missiles and about 1,5 thous. Combat aircraft.

According to him, the forces and means of command of the air defense and anti-missile defense systems of the armed forces of the East Kazakhstan region are generally ready to repel such an attack, but in cooperation with the command of the Air Force and Air Defense of military districts, Interfax reports. "And the 9-BMD division is capable of destroying single combat blocks of intercontinental missiles and small groups of combat blocks of intercontinental missiles attacking Moscow," said Demin, answering the question of how a potential enemy’s nuclear attack would be repelled.

"On the territory of the Central Industrial District, in the event of a large-scale war, about a thousand sea-based and air-based cruise missiles can act, if a non-nuclear war is in non-nuclear equipment, and about a thousand and a thousand different-purpose combat aircraft. Plus the strength of unmanned aerial vehicles, reconnaissance aircraft, control aircraft and electronic warfare, "said Demin.

The general added that in the armed forces of the East Kazakhstan region there are now enough regular officers to carry out the tasks facing the troops.
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  1. maestro123 Rank
    maestro123
    +35
    1 July 2012 16: 25
    Up to 1 thousand cruise missiles and about 1,5 thousand combat aircraft ...
    Not one other state will not survive such an unexpected blow, we will hope for our equipment and the air defense command.
    1. Tersky Rank
      Tersky
      +88
      1 July 2012 16: 31
      The current missile defense system should be located around the entire perimeter of Russia, and not just Moscow. Moscow is not all Russia, just as all Russia is not Moscow.
      1. Vorchun Rank
        Vorchun
        0
        1 July 2012 17: 16
        They (the Americans) have another task there - to protect drug lords and drug trafficking to Russia.
      2. TekhnarMAF
        TekhnarMAF
        +16
        1 July 2012 17: 40
        Tersky[Quote
        The current missile defense system should be located around the entire perimeter of Russia, and not just Moscow. Moscow is not all Russia, just as all Russia is not Moscow.]
        Victor, you took the koment literally from the tongue! I have nothing more to say, unless I wish, such protection should be throughout the country, from Kaliningrad to Chukotka!
  1. Winter
    Winter
    +17
    1 July 2012 18: 53
    But this general not only spoke for us, but for the enemy! .. What is this? already starting? ..
    1. Tersky Rank
      Tersky
      +17
      1 July 2012 19: 29
      Quote: Winter
      after all, this general not only spoke for us, but for the enemy !.

      Good health, Margarita! In his statement, except as a "stausy" show off, I did not see anything, they say, that's how we hid, and the fact that his ass is on the street is violet. Another confirmation of the opinion of ordinary mortals - Russia before the Garden Ring, what for, not Russia anymore ..
      1. CC-18a
        CC-18a
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        2 July 2012 01: 46
        Can you even imagine how much it will cost to build such facilities around the perimeter of the Russian Federation? And how many years have such facilities been built?

        The United States, with its budget now and then, is not yet able to cover the perimeter of its borders with such objects, although by the 20th year they plan to build something truncated like A-135 around our border.

        In general, the set of A-135 along the perimeter of the borders of the Russian Federation is a fairy tale; dreaming is not harmful. If you think about the implementation of the current is possible, provided that within 10 years 100-200 thousand workers will work for free, without eating anything and without rest, and the equipment will work in the air! without wasting fuel and electricity winked

        Moscow, no matter how you and I did not like it, this is the center of government of the country, including the RF Armed Forces, including the Strategic Missile Forces. Like the human body, in the first place, you will protect the head and not the ass, exposing different parts of the body to be hit so that the head does not suffer wassat

        However, there is room for optimism) Over-the-horizon radars of the Voronezh DM are being built along the perimeter, an S-400 with missile defense elements is being deployed to it, and by 20 May God forbid deploy the S-500 (specifically with missile defense missions) both in the land version and then in the sea. Given our traditions of air defense and missile defense, the final S-500 will be such that the United States will be choked with envy.
        1. alexng Rank
          alexng
          +3
          2 July 2012 06: 33
          Yes, but the answer to such an attack has not yet been taken into account. When, albeit theoretically, a missile attack on Russia begins, then rockets will also fly back. So a full salvo may not happen to the attackers, and that's another story ...
        2. AK-74-1 Rank
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          2 July 2012 09: 02
          CC-18, you ask how much will it cost? I will answer you for the state it will cost several tons of paper and special paint for money; several hundred thousand tons of recoverable minerals are actual costs. Now that the state will receive. Jobs (employment); consumer demand development; development of geological exploration and mining, development of radio and electronic technologies; new defense system and much more.
          1. CC-18a
            CC-18a
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            2 July 2012 10: 28
            Quote: AK-74-1
            several tons of paper and special paint for money

            The answer is wrong, extremely stupid. Although it may be in your youth or you were not taught such concepts as inflation and where it comes from and how it is bad.
            God forbid that people like you at the helm of the state have never been hit.
            If you print the money as much as you need for the construction of 20 A-135 objects, then the ruble will collapse immediately, tomorrow bread will already cost 10000 rubles, and in 1998 many will seem a mere trifle, which was in 1998. I think you don’t know there was still a little ... and I I know, and it scares me very much that only 10-15 years have passed and people have already forgotten what kind of ass you wrote here.

            Quote: AK-74-1
            Jobs

            There will be no jobs, inflation will eat everything at once, and the salary that was originally proposed will turn into ridiculous pennies.

            Karoche ... damn people, think with your head before writing. I, too, want peace in the whole world, s / n and not working, currents, dreams and reality are two different things!
            1. AK-74-1 Rank
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              2 July 2012 15: 36
              But you were generally taught that there are those sectors of the economy that specifically stimulate consumption. And then in our country there is a large number of manufactures of consumer goods, including automobiles, electronics, etc.
              Inflation will eat everything if the money supply is thrown into the economy not supported by other production, and now it is another production we have.
              And lastly, if you are only familiar with direct budget financing and the "free market according to A. Smith's theory," then go and "treat" underdeveloped liberals like Kudrin.
        3. Tersky Rank
          Tersky
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          2 July 2012 09: 53
          Quote: CC-18a
          Can you even imagine how much it will cost to build such facilities around the perimeter of the Russian Federation

          I can imagine how much death it will cost Russia, or is it more pleasant to count money?
          1. CC-18a
            CC-18a
            +2
            2 July 2012 10: 21
            Well then, build "world peace", because everything is so simple in your opinion.
            And to answer a question with a question is somehow not beautiful.

            Tersky you have a rating that is not small, you should reason as an adult already.

            If you have a wife, then buy her 10 Lexuses, and that I don’t give a damn !!! because the beloved’s happiness is more important than money! your logic.

            Regarding deaths and such statements like your current, what, but does the A135 around the perimeter of the country guarantee full security? not! Even suppose all this is done hypothetically ... so what? I guarantee that they will demand to make 2 rings around the perimeter or even increase the number of missiles ... and if they do, they will continue to demand that for each resident 10 missile defense systems stand ... and so on ad infinitum !!! And no matter how much they do, requirements will only grow.

            You are far from a boy, I hope and must understand and distinguish between utopia and reality.
            1. Tersky Rank
              Tersky
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              2 July 2012 12: 13
              Quote: CC-18a
              far from a boy I hope and must understand and distinguish between utopia and reality.

              And how did you get it? So I distinguish for whom in Russia missile defense is reality, and for whom is utopia. And the fact that A135 does not guarantee complete security is well aware, but is it not utopia to concentrate almost the majority of missile defense on a single territory the size of shagreen skin? This doesn’t bother you at allThe Russian missile defense system consists of four main components: positional areas, early warning radars, space constellation and anti-satellite complex. All of them are part of the Aerospace Defense Forces (EKR), which, since 2011, has been commanded by Lieutenant General Oleg Ostapenko. The objects of the East Kazakhstan region troops are located throughout Russia - from Kaliningrad to Kamchatka, as well as beyond its borders, but the only positional area covers the capital. These "rings" are deployed in accordance with the 1972 ABM Treaty of the year, according to which each party pledged to have no more than one missile defense system. The USSR chose the cover of the capital, the USA - the Grand Forks area: the concentration of land-based intercontinental carriers. But, if the Americans did not deploy their missile defense system then, the first elements of the Soviet one were built in the 1978 year, and on February 17 of the 1995 year, the Moscow missile defense system took up combat duty. The system consists of two echelons capable of intercepting intercontinental ballistic missiles both in the atmosphere and in the transatmospheric space. She received the encrypted name A-135. Operation of the A-135 system is provided by the 9-I division of East Kazakhstan region. The command post of the system is the city of Sofrino, Moscow Region. The first echelon is the 32 long-range anti-missile 51Т6, (according to the NATO classification "Gorgon") designed by P.D. Grushin hit targets in space at a distance of 350 km. Positional areas: Naro-Fominsk and Sergiev Posad. In the second echelon - five positional areas with 68-mi anti-missile 53Т6, (Gazlle) designs L.V. Lyuleva. They are capable of intercepting a target at altitudes from 5 to 30 km at a distance of up to 100 km. All missiles are equipped with nuclear warheads up to 1 megatons in capacity and are located in silo launchers. Aiming at the target is provided by the Don-2 radar system. I’m very, Russia is almost naked. If I were a general, I would be silent in a rag ...
              1. CC-18a
                CC-18a
                +1
                2 July 2012 12: 43
                Quote: Tersky
                So I distinguish for whom in Russia missile defense is reality, and for whom is utopia.

                That I did not notice.

                Quote: Tersky
                but is it possible to concentrate almost the majority of missile defense on a single territory the size of a shagreen tree?

                No.
                Spraying missile defense forces throughout the Russian Federation means reducing its combat effectiveness or effectiveness to zero.
                I wrote earlier that in a fight they protect their heads for a reason, it is not so difficult to understand that Moscow is the head, whose protection is the primary task. If even now I do not understand I am writing "in plain text", Moscow is the control center of the Russian Federation, it is the control center of the Strategic Missile Forces as a retaliatory strike against the enemy. Not defending Moscow means losing control of the Strategic Missile Forces and everything else, that is, giving the enemy the opportunity to strike without retaliation and the ability to deprive the entire country of control.

                Quote: Tersky
                I’m very, Russia is almost naked. If I were a general, I would be silent in a rag ...

                I repeat again
                Quote: CC-18a
                Can you even imagine how much it will cost to build such facilities around the perimeter of the Russian Federation? And how many years have such facilities been built?

                If I do not understand again, I can decrypt it.
                Objects of the A-135 type have been built for such a long time and so expensive that the RF Budget has a bottom that will not pull it as necessary to at least cover the perimeter of the Russian Federation with breaks.
                It's okay that I don’t see an ABM umbrella over the entire Russian Federation, for this we have a Strategic Missile Forces, retaliation doctrine. This is when hitting us = hitting them!
                1. Tersky Rank
                  Tersky
                  +1
                  2 July 2012 12: 58
                  Quote: CC-18a
                  That I did not notice.

                  Didn’t notice who this missile defense is covering? - every day on the TV screen. This again is not the closure of all conceivable and inconceivable zones of Russia namely A-135, but about elementary C-300. not to fat, as they say ...
                2. CC-18a
                  CC-18a
                  +1
                  2 July 2012 13: 11
                  Quote: Tersky
                  and about the elementary S-300. not to fat, as they say.

                  And then they wrote about something else? specifically about the A-135 and about missile defense for all of Russia.

                  There are elementary S-300s and quite a few, besides them there are other systems, already 4 are on duty S-400, the fifth is already "rolling". Various radars have developed and are perhaps silently put, sky-M as an example.

                  If that S-300 is not a missile defense, it is an air defense.
                  You can arm yourself) with mathematics and geometry, calculate the number of our S-300Ps and calculate the area of ​​each observation zone and multiply by the number of S-300s and then compare this with the area of ​​the Russian Federation. Somewhere I saw one counting, and so calculated that it completely closes everything, even closes it.
      2. Temer Rank
        Temer
        0
        2 July 2012 05: 18
        on the "castle" they us..t
  2. Tersky Rank
    Tersky
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    1 July 2012 19: 07
    Quote: TehnarMAF
    removed koment literally from language! I have nothing more to say

    Good health, Nikolai! The good news is not that I took it off the tongue, but the fact that we think alike! drinks !
  3. oper66
    oper66
    +5
    1 July 2012 20: 08
    Ensuring the destruction of the attack blocks is provided by the zrc in the presence of a special charge of up to 0.2 klt - now imagine all this will explode on our land - and one joy - Moscow with the Muscovites is whole - and the country is .... opera
  4. UAZ Patriot Rank
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    1 July 2012 22: 08
    It means that the 999th missile will be shot down in the suburbs, and the 1000th over the Kremlin? - I think so? or the whole thousand will be shot down if it is launched, for example, from one direction without reaching the borders of Russia ??? Some kind of blurry article !!!
  5. Dmitry Desnyansky Rank
    Dmitry Desnyansky
    +1
    1 July 2012 23: 30
    Think really! How much lave is needed to provide such a defense from Kaliningrad to Chukotka. What for? Spraying forces
  • Kaa Rank
    Kaa
    +6
    1 July 2012 18: 56
    Best defense is attack. In our case, the POSSIBILITY thereof. Otherwise, there will not be enough money for missile defense, they will be scattered for grandmothers, as with "Star Wars". Asymmetry and asymmetry again, you cannot be catching up.
    1. Bashkaus
      Bashkaus
      +2
      1 July 2012 19: 56
      Correctly said, a couple of drowned Los Angeles, and here from the attacking 3000 air objects, we subtract 300 tomahawks, i.e. ten%
      1. Lord of the Sith Rank
        Lord of the Sith
        +1
        1 July 2012 21: 45
        A typical version of the combat load (recent modifications) - 12 RCC “Tomahawk”, 6-8 RCC "Harpoon", 16 torpedoes Mk 48 and ADCAP.

        12 per boat, where did you count 150 ???
        1. Bashkaus
          Bashkaus
          0
          2 July 2012 15: 16
          I confused Los Angeles with Ohio, in which 22 PUs were converted to drum, each with 7 axes. And they need to be drowned by all, regardless of modifications and names.
  • Surg Rank
    Surg
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    1 July 2012 18: 56
    While reading the article the same idea arose), what for Moscow will be needed if the whole of Russia is destroyed)
    1. Docker76
      Docker76
      +2
      1 July 2012 22: 31
      Quote: Surg
      What for will need Moscow

      .... no offense, like small children ............
      ...... Moscow, whatever it may be-the heart of Russia, not to be confused with the soul .....
      .... and die, for their land, and do not mind ..........
      1. Temer Rank
        Temer
        +2
        2 July 2012 05: 22
        Dear Docker76, look at the map. The geographical center of Russia is located in the Krasnoyarsk Territory. At the same time, ask any Siberian how he relates to Moscow and Muscovites. The answer will be one: very negative !!!
    2. kopcep
      kopcep
      +1
      2 July 2012 06: 44
      The experience of the Patriotic War of 1812 shows that in which case it is better to burn Moscow by ourselves, and not to hope that the enemy does not have 1001 missiles and 1501 aircraft. This option plunges the enemy into greater horror than any statements by generals. But this option only rolls when Moscow is no longer suitable for anything else and has done everything possible to deserve such an end.
  • Lord of the Sith Rank
    Lord of the Sith
    +2
    1 July 2012 22: 22
    Who is interested

    Turkey, Akinchi Air Base, Turkish Air Force


    1. Veteran VMS
      Veteran VMS
      +1
      2 July 2012 00: 05
      Informative.
    2. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine
      +1
      2 July 2012 06: 59
      TO SYRIANS SUCH PICTURES ARE VERY NEEDED NOW.
  • Temer Rank
    Temer
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    2 July 2012 05: 17
    I completely agree. For example, not a single missile unit remained around Krasnoyarsk. The latter was "killed" under Putin 8 years ago.
  • Denis Rank
    Denis
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    2 July 2012 20: 06
    Quote: Tersky

    The current missile defense system should be located around the entire perimeter of Russia, and not just Moscow. Moscow is not all Russia, just as all Russia is not Moscow.

    I agree. Moscow, this is only a small part of great Russia, you need to protect the whole country as a whole!
  • alex21411
    alex21411
    +1
    1 July 2012 16: 33
    Yes, the earthen women themselves understand this that competing with us is death for them ... You can see how they "successfully" fight in Afghanistan and Iraq ...
    1. nycsson Rank
      nycsson
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      1 July 2012 16: 46
      And what, in Russia, the most important strategic object for us is Moscow! Moscow will be hollowed at the last moment when all hydroelectric power stations, nuclear power plants, plants and factories, airfields, railway stations, etc. And why the article is not called: how many missiles are needed to break through missile defense over Russia? The answer is obvious! ABM over Russia does not exist! It exists only over Moscow! It's a pity!
      1. Igorboss16
        Igorboss16
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        1 July 2012 18: 48
        In addition to anti-missiles, we have other ways of eliminating missiles of a potential enemy, these installations are of course top-secret, but the principle of their work is to create plasma clouds in the atmosphere on the flight path of the mbr, anywhere in our country. it is unclear whether this system is working nowadays, but I think the effectiveness of this technology for intercepting missiles will surpass all existing pro on the planet, but other information about this is not yet known
        1. Tersky Rank
          Tersky
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          1 July 2012 20: 22
          Quote: Igorboss16
          In addition to anti-missiles, we also have other ways of eliminating missiles of a potential enemy, these installations are of course top-secret, but the principle of their work is to create plasma clouds in the atmosphere along the mbr’s flight path,

          Well, yes, it’s like everything is easy, and Russian minds are endlessly searching for an improvement in existing air defense systems, money is immeasurable, so we create C-400, rack our brains over C-500, etc.
          1. RUS-36
            RUS-36
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            1 July 2012 22: 34
            We don’t want to feed our army, we will feed the enemy ... or do you disagree with this statement ???
          2. Igorboss16
            Igorboss16
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            1 July 2012 23: 45
            and why are complexes like Tunguska shell created then because we have c-300, because these long-range systems themselves need cover from targets that do not fall within the affected areas of these systems, and I only put forward assumptions based on eyewitness accounts that such developments were carried out and were successful, but to the end it is not clear whether they work, but if we had such weapons, the billions spent by amers on their own proves to be useless
        2. El13 Rank
          El13
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          1 July 2012 22: 23
          Quote: Igorboss16
          the principle of their work is to create in the atmosphere of plasma clouds on the flight path of the mbr, anywhere in our country

          There are developments, real warheads - no, it doesn’t work against cruise missiles, as I understand it, eating energy after all ... you can ignore it, although it is interesting.
          1. 11 black Rank
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            2 July 2012 10: 27
            Yes, we had 1 such an installation, but it was never completed and abandoned in 90 :(
            but the American HARP (or HARM) no matter how sadly works ...
            need to reduce this gap as soon as possible
        3. valton Rank
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          2 July 2012 13: 46
          I think that Russia has secret developments that are inappropriate to talk about. And if they are used, it will not seem enough.
      2. Winter
        Winter
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        1 July 2012 18: 59
        Quote: nycsson
        And what, in Russia in Russia the most important strategic object is Moscow!

        The Americans are howling according to the same old scheme as all the invaders of the West, the main thing is to seize the capital, and the rest of the country itself will fall under them ... But in Russia, wars from the capital only really begin. Oh, it's not easy for these conversations ...
        1. nycsson Rank
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          1 July 2012 21: 24
          Quote: Winter
          The Americans howl according to the same old scheme as all the invaders of the West, the main thing is to seize the capital, and the rest of the country itself will fall under them ...

          I do not agree with you! The main thing for them is to break up the entire infrastructure, and it is still necessary to fly to the capital, although cruise missiles fly far ....
          1. RUS-36
            RUS-36
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            1 July 2012 22: 35
            This is closer to the truth .... I agree .... without security, the army is rubbish ...
        2. Simon Rank
          Simon
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          1 July 2012 21: 49
          Yes, Napoleon also took Moscow, well, and lost the war. Hitler only managed to get to Moscow and got it too. So that amers pamper with fire, a big fire can flare up, in which they themselves will burn. We are Russian unpredictable. wassat
          1. kopcep
            kopcep
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            2 July 2012 07: 04
            Why are you here on amers ponyayahali ?! :) The general did not say a word about them. It was he who was going to save the capital from terrorists. I'm serious. And then just what, immediately amers, clay masons. No, well, we are cultured people nevertheless, I was directly offended by the most democratic, most democratizing country in the world! I tell you, it’s enough here to interfere with the United States of America with ha ... sorry, with clay! As always, the terrorists are to blame for everything! And the point!
        3. Docker76
          Docker76
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          1 July 2012 22: 41
          Quote: Winter
          .Oh, not without reason these conversations ...


          ... Moscow was already burning ...
          .... and, perhaps it will be, the beginning of their end ..... ((
          ...... as if we didn’t want to, to go through it - will have to ..... ((
      3. oper66
        oper66
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        1 July 2012 20: 49
        Yes, Moscow is the main one and they will not bomb it - there are a lot of their -gays and other glamorous scum
    2. Vorchun Rank
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      1 July 2012 17: 08
      They (s) have another task there - to protect drug lords and drug trafficking to Russia.
    3. Vorchun Rank
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      1 July 2012 17: 11
      They (the Americans) have another task there - to protect drug lords and drug trafficking to Russia.
    4. Vorchun Rank
      Vorchun
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      1 July 2012 17: 17
      They (the Americans) have another task there - to protect drug lords and drug trafficking to Russia.
      1. bamboo
        bamboo
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        1 July 2012 18: 14
        Today in the news there was an infa that with the extermination of drug barons in Mexico, the consumption and sale of drugs in America increased (the figure was not given), others occupied the niches of the destroyed drug defense. kato so !!!
      2. alex86 Rank
        alex86
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        2 July 2012 19: 52
        This is a task, first of all, of our authorities, who are nursing from the sale of drugs (cops cover, direct and unfasten). And amerikosam (in your transcription) is only on hand ...
    5. Teploteh - nick
      Teploteh - nick
      +7
      1 July 2012 18: 39
      In any case, no one will ever attack Russia with the use of non-nuclear means — cruise missiles — if only with the aim of bleeding the air defense system, missile defense — before the launch of a nuclear strike.
      As far as I remember - there is a map stolen from the Americans - which shows the points of the first Yaudara in Russia.
      Moscow, of course, is on them. But besides it, there are all other large industrial centers there. The main blow - directed at the Urals - where up to 80% of Russian production is concentrated, the Siberian region - in particular Novosibirsk.
      And they believe - ABM 9 divisions - will protect Moscow from YaUdara. And who and what - will the remaining 130.000.000 citizens protect?
      When compiling this map, again - the Americans took into account the direction of the winds. Those. - where after it will carry all the radiation. And the blows are so designed - so that the radiation strip carried by the winds - passes over the maximum area of ​​Russia, mowing up small towns, villages, and other survivors.
      Therefore, it is not necessary to consider missile defense when there is nothing to do at work. The entire perimeter, all Russian cities - it will be hard to close missile defense - in view of the vast territories.
      It is necessary to create a new ultramodern heavy intercontinental ballistic missile - in place of Satan (Voivode) - which is not eternal. Poplars with poplars - but 150Ktn - are not enough. But 20Mtn is already a very serious argument, which makes you think 100 times before attacking its owner.
      1. PSih2097 Rank
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        1 July 2012 20: 32
        Therefore, it is not necessary to consider missile defense when there is nothing to do at work. The entire perimeter, all Russian cities - it will be hard to close missile defense - in view of the vast territories.

        For this, there is military air defense and object-based air defense, at least it will exist until the new year, then they will bring everything to the East Kazakhstan region ... De-b-ls IMHO
        As far as I remember - there is a map stolen from the Americans - which shows the points of the first Yaudara in Russia.






        Parts of air defense - destruction of cruise missiles
        St. Petersburg
        Moscow
        Petrozavodsk (Rep Karelia)
        Shliselburg (Leningrad region)
        Kotlas (Arkhang region)
        Rybinsk (Yaroslavl region)
        Safonovo (Smolensk region)
        Bryansk
        Tula
        Kaluga
        Samara
        Ulyanovsk
        Ryazan
        Vladimir
        Podolsk (Moscow region)
        Yaroslavl
        Voronezh
        Kazan
        Serpukhov (Moscow region)
        Rostov
        Volgograd
        Kamensk-Shakhtinsky (Rostov region)
        Sarapul (Udmurt Republic)
        Solikamsk (Perm region)
        Nizhny Novgorod
        Permian
        Ufa
        Ekaterinburg
        Sterlitamak (Bashkortostan)
        Izhevsk (Udmurt Republic)
        Kyshtym (Chelyabinsk region)
        Chelyabinsk
        Tyumen
        Mound
        Verkhnyaya Salda (Sverdlovsk region)
        Omsk
        Kemerovo
        Barnaul
        Biysk (Altai Territory)

        Parts of the Strategic Nuclear Forces of the Russian Federation - destruction of Trident ICBMs
        St. Petersburg
        Moscow
        Dubna (Moscow region)
        Kaliningrad (Moscow region)
        Kovrov (Vladimir region)
        Kirov
        Votkinsk (Udmurt Republic)
        Saratov
        Samara
        Chrysostom
        Ekaterinburg
        Orenburg
        Omsk
        Krasnoyarsk

        Telecommunication centers and repeaters destruction by cruise missiles
        Goose-crystal (room center cosmic)
        Khabarovsk (space center)
        Relay stations
        Zaraysk
        Vladimir
        Ulan-Ude
        Syktyvkar
        Surgut
        Skovorodino
        Salekhard
        S. Petersburg
        Cockerels 1-2
        Petropavlosk-Kamchatsky
        Novosibirsk
        Nikolaevsk on the Amur
        Science
        Moscow1-2-3
        Find
        Magadan
        Krasnokamensk
        Khabarovsk
        Kemerovo
        Irkutsk
        Cudgel
        Dubna 1-2-3-4
        Arkhangelsk

        Centers for the manufacture of nuclear weapons - destruction of Trident ICBMs - capacity
        Angarsk - 100 Kiloton
        Seversk -500 kiloton
        Zarechny - 100 kiloton
        Snezhinsk -400 kiloton
        Ozersk -400 kiloton
        Novouralsk -300 kiloton
        Zelenogorsk -100 kiloton
        Zheleznogorsk-200 kiloton
        Trekhgorny-200 kiloton
        Forest - 400 Kiloton
        Sarov-200 Kiloton

        Destruction of the Federal Reserve Reserve and Nuclear Weapons Storage - destruction of Trident ICBMs
        Golovchino (Belgorod. About)
        Rzhannitsa (Bryansk Region)
        south of the Zalari railway station, Zanina place (Irkutsk region)
        Karabash (Chelyabinsk region)
        Khabarovsk
        Zheleznogorsk-Dodonovo - (Krasnoyarsk kr)
        south of Komsomolsk-on-Amur railway station Bologn
        Mozhaysk (Moscow region)
        Olenegorsk (Murmansk region)
        Nizhny Tagil-Lesnoy (Lower tour - Sverdlovsk region)
        Nizhny Tagil-Nizhnyaya Tura - southeast -
        Saratov-Engels (Saratov region)
        Sverdlovsk
        Borisovglebsk - (Voronezh Region)
        Trekhgorny - South Yuryuzan - Chelyabinsk
        Chebsara -Vologda region
        Sebezh-Bulyzhino-Pskov about

        Destruction of Aerodromes and Strategic Aviation destruction of Trident ICBMs - cruise missiles

        primarily
        Anadyr - Coal Mine Leninink Coal Airfield
        Engels
        Kazan Aviation Plant
        Kuibyshev Aviation Plant
        Ramenskoye-Zhukovsky
        Ryazan-Diaghilevo
        Tiksi
        Ukrainian
        Vorkuta

        second turn
        ArtyomVladivostokKnevichi-Mezhd Airport
        Bada
        Baltiysk
        White
        Borg
        Greyhound
        Chernyakovsk
        Chita
        ChitaKadala
        Chkalovsk Checked Kaliningrad-Intere Airport
        Blast furnace
        Galenki
        Gorelovo
        IrkutskUstinov-Int. Airport
        Kamenka
        Khabarovsk-Intere Airport
        Kipelovo
        Wedge
        Komsomolsk South
        Korsakov
        Kraskino
        Cuban Tuchkovo
        LakhtaHolm
        Severomorsk 3
        Marinovka
        Morozovsk
        Mozdok
        Mykolaivka
        Nivenskoe
        ReindeerOlenegors
        Island Pea
        Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky Velizovo-Int. Airport
        Romanovka
        Severomorsk 1Severomorsk
        Shatalovo
        Gull
        Soviet harbor
        Ulan-Ude
        Usashi
        Verino
        Voronezh
        VozdvizhenkaUssuriysk
        Vozhaevka
        Yeysk
        Zavitinsk

        Fleet bases

        Pacific - Destruction of Trident ICBMs

        first of all
        Fishing

        second turn
        Pavlovskoe
        Abrek
        Testaments of Ilyich
        Soviet harbor
        Chazhma
        Olga

        third line
        Big Stone
        Korsakov
        Vladivostok

        Northern

        first of all
        Nerpichy Bay
        Yagelnaya Bay

        second turn
        Murmansk
        Safonovo
        Severomorsk
        Okolnaya
        Polar
        Deer
        all bases around Murmansk in 13-25 km
        Big and Small shoulder blades
        Pechenga
        Severodvinsk
        Belomorsk

        SS-24 bases - destruction of Trident ICBMs
        Kostroma
        Bershet
        Krasnoyarsk

        Missile Bases - Destruction of Trident ICBMs
        Vypolzovo
        Teikovo
        Yokshar ola
        Apalaevsk
        Yurya
        Nizhny Tagil
        Irkutsk
        Kansk
        Barnaul
        Bershet
        Novosibirsk
        Wood burning
        Aleisk
        Dombarovsky
        Kartaly
        Kozelsk
        Tatishchevo
        Uchur
        Clear
        Free
        1. Teploteh - nick
          Teploteh - nick
          +1
          1 July 2012 20: 54
          Look, you even calculated the power - how much and where exactly Ctn! am
          By the way, an article about half a year ago - just on this topic.
          Do we have a similar plan? request belay Must be! I wish I could look at him with one eye! At least warm your soul! laughing
          Thanks PSih2097 for the info.! Yes good - A very good and useful addition to this article.
          By the way, it seems to me that in the case of Yavoyna, the khan will come quickly! crying All this is very bad!
          The only consolation can be only that - in return - Russia is guaranteed and 100% able to destroy the aggressor by inflicting an asymmetric retaliation YaUdar !!! am Then die is not a pity belay - knowing that America has come! laughing
          1. El13 Rank
            El13
            +1
            1 July 2012 22: 34
            Quote: Teploteh - nick
            Do we have a similar plan?

            And what do you think, when an underwater strategic missile carrier goes off-line for three months, he takes clean cards with him and chooses before launch - where to shoot ... hehe.
          2. Corneli
            Corneli
            0
            2 July 2012 00: 48
            Do not worry about such plans in the United States and Russia in bulk (I think that even a brief overview of Russia's attack on a country like the US could not be mastered in a week, there is so much different information there)). Only it is unlikely that someone will lay them out to you) Nobody canceled the top secret. And if suddenly such plans, God forbid, appear in an open form, so to speak, then let there be sorrow (
          3. dld35057 Rank
            dld35057
            -6
            2 July 2012 00: 57
            in the case of a nuclear strike, Russia will not strike back, since then the living will envy the dead, this is revenge dead!
            1. wk Rank
              wk
              +1
              2 July 2012 01: 03
              Quote: dld35057
              when

              Russia with a capital letter, dead, through E! ... "-"
              1. dld35057 Rank
                dld35057
                -5
                2 July 2012 01: 40
                sorry wolf I had in Russian - listened. and most importantly, it’s not my fault. I wanted to study, but they didn’t teach us in the USSR, but they were preparing for war from the 2nd grade, went in uniform of frontier troops and shouted cries. This is just in case if you still believe that the best in the world is formed in the world, it’s still a picture. in the past and someone else basically basically in motorized rifle battalions. so you don’t poke a finger at me — you are a general bitch and I’ll have to fight and breathe - but I know I’m going to die for it (Airborne Force).
                1. dld35057 Rank
                  dld35057
                  -3
                  2 July 2012 02: 07
                  I am glad that only 2 minuses - and there is no justification.
                  1. dld35057 Rank
                    dld35057
                    -2
                    2 July 2012 02: 43
                    when a serious conversation begins, the site starts crap. I suggest adding a section to the site - personal conversation - viewing for all, but a polemic only for 3 participants in the conversation.
                    1. wk Rank
                      wk
                      0
                      2 July 2012 04: 42
                      Quote: dld35057
                      when a serious conversation begins, the site starts crap. I suggest adding a section to the site - personal conversation - viewing for all, but a polemic only for 3 participants in the conversation.

                      when they start talking to themselves ..... I suggest going to the doctor!
        2. Dmitry.V
          Dmitry.V
          +2
          1 July 2012 22: 51
          I remember reading that in the USA every day they developed a new plan for an attack on the USSR
        3. Veteran VMS
          Veteran VMS
          0
          2 July 2012 00: 07
          And what is the "freshness" of this data?
        4. +1
          2 July 2012 00: 53
          Quote: PSih2097
          Sterlitamak

          AAA! There is even my Sterlitamak! What do we bomb then? Caustic if only. And the storage facilities with chlorine blown up there will kill both Salavat and Ishimbay, and probably Ufa too.
          1. Dmitry.V
            Dmitry.V
            0
            8 July 2012 22: 50
            Yes, and on Neftekamsk throw something that the buses would not do.
    6. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz
      +1
      2 July 2012 09: 33
      They do not fight there - they are building a drug business there. in a real war, Afghanistan was used in the lunar landscape in 2-3 days. But I do not do this because the drug will be a lot of light at customs.
  • nycsson Rank
    nycsson
    +4
    1 July 2012 16: 49
    Quote: maestro123
    Not one other state will not survive such an unexpected blow, we will hope for our equipment and the air defense command.

    To bomb Moscow from the very beginning is stupid! Don't you think? On the territory of Russia there are objects much more important and interesting than Moscow! what
    1. maestro123 Rank
      maestro123
      +4
      1 July 2012 17: 08
      nycsson,
      And I did not say that the state is Moscow

      They will bomb everything related to defense and combat readiness, as well as with the goal of demoralizing the enemy, in short, to bring chaos.
    2. bamboo
      bamboo
      0
      1 July 2012 18: 17
      and don’t know whether to stay in Moscow or go to the country, it’s definitely not to bomb her))) laughing
    3. CaptainBlack
      CaptainBlack
      0
      1 July 2012 18: 37
      Yes, if you figure it out, then there is no need to bomb! The majority of "siblings" are basically ... And the country, as it were, was destroyed from the inside long ago! Whose food you eat, whose car you drive - those you are! ...
      How long has the plane landed on Red Square ??? PRO, PRO, - noodles for the naive ... fool
      1. Veteran VMS
        Veteran VMS
        -1
        2 July 2012 00: 09
        And the country, as it were, was ruined from within for a long time already! - Well, not all the same!
    4. wasjasibirjac Rank
      wasjasibirjac
      0
      1 July 2012 19: 52
      and you also give the addresses of these objects. it would be better not to bomb at all, but for this we need RELIABLE ALLIES in a place inaccessible to a sudden strike, and better - places. only then can we hope that there will be no desire to bomb. otherwise, a thick polar animal will come.
  • Lord of the Sith Rank
    Lord of the Sith
    +14
    1 July 2012 17: 12
    I want to show the US Air Force base, there is nothing to do on fotkal

    2nd Bomber Wing, Louisiana




    5th Bomber Wing, Mayot


    57th Wing, Nevada





    53rd Bomber Wing, Florida


    Tank Range, Florida


    I took pictures of only planes, I did not take pictures of the entire airfield and those buildings.
    1. maestro123 Rank
      maestro123
      +14
      1 July 2012 17: 16
      and I want to fly from the top and throw something!
      1. sergo0000 Rank
        sergo0000
        +2
        1 July 2012 17: 36
        maestro123,
        Such garbage! laughing
      2. Veteran VMS
        Veteran VMS
        0
        2 July 2012 00: 10
        And I thought that only I had such desires.
    2. Alexander Romanov Rank
      Alexander Romanov
      +8
      1 July 2012 17: 41
      this is not davis base for an hour, if so then it’s kind of in montana. One nuclear warhead and minus 1500 aircraft am
      1. Kaa Rank
        Kaa
        +4
        1 July 2012 18: 52
        Dastatka of the hellish tabletka (with YAG)
    3. an-sar Rank
      an-sar
      +2
      1 July 2012 17: 51
      All this ferrous metal will not reach the Destination !!!!
      1. click80 Rank
        click80
        +5
        1 July 2012 18: 47
        All this ferrous metal will not reach the Destination !!!!

        It is color, it is color. laughing
    4. nycsson Rank
      nycsson
      +3
      1 July 2012 17: 51
      Quote: Sith Lord
      I took pictures of only planes, I did not take pictures of the entire airfield and those buildings.

      You have a good camera! I would like that! laughing
    5. Simon Rank
      Simon
      0
      1 July 2012 21: 59
      When managed? And didn’t you notice? belay
      1. Lord of the Sith Rank
        Lord of the Sith
        0
        2 July 2012 01: 52
        And what is there to do, satellite
    6. urchik
      urchik
      +1
      2 July 2012 05: 58
      here is the work - then for our flyers accumulated. our guys will earn extra money!
  • Nick Rank
    Nick
    +7
    1 July 2012 18: 15
    Quote: maestro123
    Up to 1 thousand cruise missiles and about 1,5 thousand combat aircraft ... Not one other state will not survive such an unexpected strike

    According to fleet admiral I.M. The captain, the USA has the opportunity to apply at least 3,5 thousand KR in the first strike against the Russian Federation. It is necessary to urgently increase the capabilities of our air defense / missile defense!
    1. Winter
      Winter
      +5
      1 July 2012 19: 08
      Nick,
      Public opinion is prepared, now you can rivet! And rivet!
      For completeness, I would like to know how many of our missiles will fall in the meantime on the cities of adversaries in America and Europe! And then what is it, all to us and to us.
      1. Nick Rank
        Nick
        +1
        1 July 2012 21: 38
        It all depends on, dear Lady, how efficiently our SPRN, air defense / missile defense systems will work, how efficiently our SSBNs will get away from tracking American submarine hunters. After all, we are not going to be the first to start a nuclear apocalypse.
        1. Guun
          Guun
          +2
          1 July 2012 22: 31
          If there is no way out — sanctions, the threat of Iran’s capture (this will destabilize the whole region, the echo of the war will reach the Russian Federation), the blockade with missile defense, against Russia, then there will be a war to survive as a species! analogues).
    2. Veteran VMS
      Veteran VMS
      0
      2 July 2012 00: 12
      The captain, by virtue of his age, fell behind modern life on "Aurora's shot."
    3. ups Rank
      ups
      0
      2 July 2012 09: 26
      The Americans have only 4000 cruise missiles, their submarines cannot shoot in volleys, if you read the statistics on the last soldiers, their maximum volley will not reach hundreds of cruise missiles. to our borders, to do this unnoticed, it’s simply not possible, for this they can only attack small countries. Their hands are really short and they understand this)))))
  • Veteran VMS
    Veteran VMS
    0
    1 July 2012 23: 53
    In the days of the Union, such a question would not even have arisen.
  • Veteran VMS
    Veteran VMS
    0
    2 July 2012 00: 04
    No other state will survive, only Russia will cope!
  • itr Rank
    itr
    0
    2 July 2012 05: 05
    Stupid statement! Similar to . And I have an older brother boxer!
  • volcano Rank
    volcano
    0
    2 July 2012 10: 15
    I would not be very happy.
    Amer recently practiced exercises with a strike on Russia 10.000 cruise missiles.
    Of which five or six thousand may well be identified in Moscow.
    So it is necessary to strengthen the defense.
    Yes, and I agree with all colleagues. It is necessary to cover the whole of Russia.
    And it will be like the hackneyed saying "is there life outside the Moscow Ring Road".
    Each Russian city should be reliably covered.
  • Young man
    Young man
    +1
    1 July 2012 16: 40
    Hmm ... in Moscow there is at least refuge, but in other cities, which are also important defense points, they are not.
    1. aspirin02 Rank
      aspirin02
      +4
      1 July 2012 17: 22
      Shelters used to be everywhere !! In postal buildings, for example, schools .. and so on .... and now ..... there are bars or everything is thrown ..... here it is ....... the one from him ??? Add yourself 1-2 day life?
      1. Hedgehog
        Hedgehog
        0
        1 July 2012 22: 03
        There is a legend that we have a bunker under the 1st School!
  • sorrento
    sorrento
    -2
    1 July 2012 16: 50
    Why does Moscow have such protection? And the rest of the cities of Russia probably all do not care!
    1. Crumbumbes
      Crumbumbes
      +5
      1 July 2012 17: 27
      I don’t think that only Moscow has such an anti-aircraft defense, there are many strategically important facilities that are also not badly guarded, some of them are in the beloved of Russia, it’s still necessary to fly before ...
    2. Ascetic Rank
      Ascetic
      +11
      1 July 2012 21: 24
      Quote: sorrento
      Why does Moscow have such protection? And the rest of the cities of Russia probably all do not care!


      Anti-Ballistic Missile Defense (ABM) Treaty signed May 26, 1972, the United States and the USSR. The term of the contract was not limited.
      Each side pledged to have no more than two missile defense systems (around the capital and in the area where the launchers of intercontinental ballistic missiles are concentrated), where no more than 150 fixed missile defense missile launchers could be deployed in a radius of 100 kilometers. Later, in July 1974, by Additional Protocol to this Treatyallowed to have only one such system: either around the capital or in the area of ​​ICBM launchers (for the USSR - with a center in the capital; for the USA - on the basis of the Grand Forks).
      On December 13, 2001, US President George W. Bush notified the Russian President of US unilateral withdrawal from the Treatyafter which, according to the provisions of the agreement, it remained valid for another 6 months, until June 12, 2002.
      Since then, the 9th missile defense division (headquarters in Sofrino) has remained near Moscow. And amers began to deploy their global missile defense unilaterally, which was discussed on the site inside and out. In principle, at the moment, our A-135 does not save Moscow from a massive strike (for some time I served there when the missile defense system of Moscow was subordinated to the Strategic Missile Forces), nor the American European missile defense system will not "catch up" with our ICBMs flying through the North Pole.
      The general added that in the armed forces of the East Kazakhstan region there are now enough regular officers to carry out the tasks facing the troops.

      Your words to God’s ears, Comrade General. There are enough officers for Your opinion (I think not). but the level of professional training leaves much to be desired, especially among the grassroots, 20 years of timelessness and general devastation could not help but affect this and should not be silent and get off with such reassuring statements.

    3. +1
      2 July 2012 00: 56
      Quote: sorrento
      Why does Moscow have such protection? And the rest of the cities of Russia probably all do not care!

      Your conclusion from the point of view of logic is akin to the statement: tomato-vegetable, then all vegetables-tomatoes!
      Well, where did you get that?
      1. Tersky Rank
        Tersky
        +2
        2 July 2012 07: 26
        Quote: kos
        vegetable tomato

        Konstantin, actually a tomato is botanically defined as a fruit wink Tomato (Latin: Solánum lycopérsicum) is a plant of the genus Solanaceae of the Solanaceae family, one or perennial grass. Cultivated as a vegetable crop. The fruits of a tomato are known as tomatoes. Type of fruit - berry. in 1893 was a tomato officially declared a vegetable by the US Supreme Court? From the point of view of botany, a tomato is a pure fruit, or rather a berry. It was on the botanical point of view that the Nyx brothers, who were involved in importing tomatoes, were based when they filed a lawsuit against customs officer Edward Hedden. The fact is that the 1883 Customs Tariff of the year imposed duties on import of vegetables, but did not impose import on fruits. The Knicks brothers, who seemed to be well-versed in botany, decided to take the law literally and tried to introduce tomatoes into the United States without paying a fee. But the vigilant Edward Hedden did not allow the state to be held and charged a fee - after all, in cooking, tomatoes are not served for dessert, the official decided. drinks
        1. Lord of the Sith Rank
          Lord of the Sith
          +1
          2 July 2012 08: 15
          Thanks in the morning for the positive lol
  • Alexei Rank
    Alexei
    +10
    1 July 2012 17: 00
    Well ... Comforted, damn it. Now I will sleep peacefully. And before, he suffered from insomnia, for Moscow he was still worried.
    1. bamboo
      bamboo
      0
      1 July 2012 18: 25
      well, if that let’s go to the country house, there’s not a single map)))) even though it’s near Moscow))) laughing Yes
  • maestro123 Rank
    maestro123
    +3
    1 July 2012 17: 11
    Yes, they have all our strategic cities marked with a cross on the map, so don’t worry about Moscow alone.
    1. Mikhalych1
      Mikhalych1
      +1
      1 July 2012 17: 37
      did you see their cards?
    2. bamboo
      bamboo
      +3
      1 July 2012 18: 28
      my cottage is not marked, although it is a strategic object for the preparation of strategic kebabs !!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes
  • Orthodox warrior
    Orthodox warrior
    +3
    1 July 2012 17: 15
    So I live in Moscow. Think I Rejoice? Or not worth it? Or now do not go anywhere? A joke, of course. It's a shame for the north. They bared everything there. Fly - I do not want. recourse
    1. sergo0000 Rank
      sergo0000
      +3
      1 July 2012 17: 45
      Orthodox warrior,
      Yes, I would not be so categorical in my judgments!
      They fly, but only now I see ours more than strangers winked ! Or rather, I don’t see strangers, unlike the 90s. Then yes! There were vagrants, I don’t even know what kind of horseradish they brought to Salekhard. recourse
      Maybe they worried about strategic raw materials?
  • Vorchun Rank
    Vorchun
    0
    1 July 2012 17: 15
    alex21411,

    They (the Americans) have another task there - to protect drug lords and drug trafficking to Russia.
  • bremest
    bremest
    +2
    1 July 2012 17: 37
    Given that Yuska has 60 cruise missiles in reserve in case of war with Russia, the news is not encouraging. From which it follows that the nuclear shield should only grow and they should know that if something happens the damage will be great.
    1. ups Rank
      ups
      +1
      2 July 2012 09: 35
      From where there is such information of 60000 pieces, they have not done so much in their entire history, but they have not been sorry for socialism, where it was possible to cut many, for the sake of a higher purpose, one tomahawk costs at least Tactical Tomahawk: $ 1,45 million which must be to pay. Aviation on this they consider it cheaper and more profitable than a disposable ax))))
      By the way
      Russia: 1900 launchers S-300PT / PS / PMU, 200 launchers S-300V / S-300V1 as of 2010
      Here is a guarantee that no one will pass.
      1. ozs
        ozs
        0
        3 July 2012 00: 46
        Americans can print money, with this alignment and socialism is not necessary

        Russia: 1900 launchers S-300PT / PS / PMU, 200 launchers S-300V / S-300V1 as of 2010

        I wonder how many of them are deployed and capable of performing services.
        From a force of 10% and then at best.
  • Igarr Rank
    Igarr
    +8
    1 July 2012 17: 41
    Well, everything is straight ... the commander posted.
    And lope, and what, and reflect and in the interaction. And we increase ballistics.
    I just missed one ... and with what probability?
    0,9 or 0,75 or 0,5.
    е
    If 0,5, then half of the RC will fly with the task at 100%. These are 500 sharpened "Indian axes".
    The other 500 "axes" - will do things on the way, mom do not worry.
    Well, you can count, respectively. By probabilities.
    Either "Echo .." - echoed .... or the air defense commander - an irresponsible chatterbox.
    Which is a godsend for the spy.

    My opinion is an extremely distorted presentation of the material.
    I do not like.
    1. bamboo
      bamboo
      0
      1 July 2012 18: 38
      I completely agree, I recently listened to this radio, and a bunch of others, they make such nonsense that it’s already disgusting, and they even refer to each other, it's something .... You + !!!
    2. Tersky Rank
      Tersky
      +2
      1 July 2012 19: 35
      Quote: Igarr
      My opinion is an extremely distorted presentation of the material.

      Igor, so the source and the news ...
  • Cadet787
    Cadet787
    +1
    1 July 2012 17: 52
    Directly some kind of provocation, designed to sow enmity between the citizens of Russia.
    1. Veteran VMS
      Veteran VMS
      0
      2 July 2012 00: 15
      And how does this relate to citizens? And what is the provocation?
  • AleksUkr Rank
    AleksUkr
    +2
    1 July 2012 17: 55
    Air defense troops are designed to fight against an air enemy, to protect administrative-political and industrial centers and regions from air strikes, to cover groups of troops and forces, important military and other objects. They perform their tasks in close cooperation with other branches of the armed forces by destroying the enemy air attack forces in flight.

    What do we have:
    “A country that does not have its own air defense system cannot be fully considered sovereign in the XNUMXst century. As evidence, one should recall the fate of Yugoslavia and Iraq, which the US Air Force, assisted by a well-functioning satellite constellation, inflicted a decisive defeat from the air in the shortest possible time. became non-contact, that is, the manpower of the attacking side almost does not have to come into contact with the enemy at the first stage of a large-scale war. Small losses of the US army are proof of this.
    An effective air defense system of a country in peacetime is turning along with nuclear forces into a deterrent for potential adversaries. In the course of the conflict that began in the struggle for strategic initiative, a change in the situation in favor of the aggressed side is possible only with timely warning of the impending attack, its start and the forces and means used. Only an integrated air defense system of the country as a whole can solve these problems.
    Unfortunately, the current state of the basic elements of our air defense leaves much to be desired. Many positions that successfully solve the main tasks of air defense have been lost. In the second half of the 90s, the unified air defense system of Russia was divided up and radically reorganized: first, the missile and space defense forces were withdrawn from the country's air defense forces and distributed among other types of the Armed Forces, and then the remaining units and formations of air defense (anti-aircraft) defense were included in the Air Force. Then the forces and means of the disbanded air defense (aerospace defense) were repeatedly reduced.
    From the article "SPACE AND ANTI-AIR DEFENSE OF RUSSIA"

    As you know, reforms are ongoing. The MO authorities remained the same. What to expect in the near future? Wait and see. There is hope for the best ...
  • Nechai
    Nechai
    +7
    1 July 2012 18: 09
    Quote: Igarr
    My opinion is an extremely distorted presentation of the material.

    Igor, I agree with you! "Echo of Moscow" is exactly the source that is "worth" to blindly trust. Yes, in fact, and giving them interviews do not respect themselves. Infa provocative, there can be no talk here. Who exactly destroyed the Soviet air defense? Those about whom do not cease to repeat and extol yak beacons, Mr. Venediktov, Alexey Alekseevich.
    Even in the presence of Soviet air defense, the main way to minimize losses was to HOP the population. Shelters in industrial centers WAS created ONLY for one shift!
    When, in the pre-perestroika years, the USSR came close to creating a territorial missile defense system of the Soviet Union, amers howled. And hysterically they sang the same songs as the leadership of the Russian Federation today, about the destruction of the existing strategic parity. Only then did "our" leadership back down, but now the amers send "ours" in diplomatic form far away ..
    In addition to creating a territorial missile defense system of the Russian Federation, and possibly the CSTO, it is necessary to recreate civil defense, albeit within the framework of the Ministry of Emergencies. That is, not only to disassemble the ruins and eliminate the consequences, but also to minimize damage to the blow to Russia.
    And naturally, the creation of opportunities for terminating the functionality of the global positioning system, conducting space reconnaissance and communications, and delivering a leading strike against the aggressor is of paramount importance. Who is the aggressor, and who is subjected to aggression, determines the victorious side of the conflict. About a nuclear winter, you should not weave a tyulka only. She never stopped the USA. And will not stop. By the way, the USSR possessed a unique strategic technology capable of providing food to the population of both its country and allies in the post-war period, if a significant climate change had nevertheless occurred, at the time of normalizing the situation. Ask, but why didn’t we use it in peacetime. Firstly, the notorious secrecy, and secondly, having a normal diet - you can force to eat such a mass only from under the stick. But when not to fat, the most ....
    Yes, and the hawkish overseas brains were cooled by the knowledge that if the rustling begins with ICBMs, SSBNs, strategic bombers, a retaliatory counter-strike would be dealt swiftly, without a flinch!
    1. hrych Rank
      hrych
      +4
      1 July 2012 18: 48
      Air defense is a shield, so to speak, and the Strategic Missile Forces is a sword, the longer and heavier the sword, the more doubt our "partners" have to test our shield for strength. But I am glad that enterprises like Almaz-Antey are now plowing to the maximum, and Rogozin announced new enterprises.
  • Igor
    Igor
    -3
    1 July 2012 18: 10
    The year 2025 is preparing an expedition to Mars from the Moscow region Matskvadrom, the Matskva starship with four Matskvanauts starts, but on the 5th day, the software suddenly went crazy, turned the spaceship and sent it back to Earth, the spaceship landed safely (they say they put it on some old airfield near Punka Pyzhma or Izhma, I don’t know the exact name, historians still cannot come to a consensus) and the Matskvanauts came out and they saw the local population, and so Matskvanavt Ivanov decided to make close contact of the 3rd degree and he found out that the local population knows how to speak Russian and that they have long been sending radio signals to Moscow that there is life on this land. Motskvanavt Ivanov reported this to Moscow, from Moscow sent an SMS that they were ready to establish diplomatic relations with this land, and on the landing site of the starship to build an embassy, ​​after this message the mockquanauts saw not a smile on the faces of the people they called zamkadysh, so it was decided to quickly leave this me They say that two planes with building materials for the construction of the embassy were sent to this place called either Pyzhma or Izhma, but neither one nor the other returned from there.

    Oh, yes, some may ask why there were 4 matskonavtas, and Ivanov alone blown away for all, just the other 3 matskonavtas did not know the Russian language, but this is a completely different story from the history of Moscow.
  • Popandopulo
    Popandopulo
    -1
    1 July 2012 18: 12
    What kind of missile defense and air defense near Moscow? Recently they tied a gang that illegally developed a sand quarry 7 km from Moscow for 30 years! During the operation to detain gang leaders by the capital’s riot police, the gang leaders got into a personal Mi-8 helicopter and disappeared in an unknown direction! As it turned out, next to the quarry’s quarry its own runway was privatized with its helicopters and planes! And this is 30 km from Moscow, to say nothing about the rest of Russia! And here you are talking about air defense! Laughter and nothing more ...
    1. Mikhalych1
      Mikhalych1
      +2
      1 July 2012 18: 39
      what nonsense are you talking about. Remember the Soviet-era anecdote about a tractor on the Sino-Soviet border
    2. Tersky Rank
      Tersky
      +4
      1 July 2012 19: 37
      Quote: Popandopulo
      ! As it turned out later, near the quarry, the bandits had privatized their own runway with their helicopters and planes!

      Give a kind reference, I love facts, unless of course they are "fried"
  • Averias Rank
    Averias
    +7
    1 July 2012 18: 21
    People, we have all the objects covered normally, it’s just that it’s not supposed to know about it, you know less you breathe more calmly, and enemies will be less aware. Our air defense system is deeply layered. So let them take a chance. Of course we’ll miss something, not without it, but how will they shoot down Poplars and Stiletto (equipped with non-nuclear weapons) as well as hypersonic missiles launched from the White Swans?
  • zamanyha
    zamanyha
    +1
    1 July 2012 18: 30
    also neighs that we will beat Moscow?! And Vladivostok? And Belgorod? Any kind of talk is bad?!?!?!? ...
  • Prophet Alyosha
    Prophet Alyosha
    +5
    1 July 2012 18: 34
    Air defense, missile defense, etc. and so on. I’m 100% sure that the upcoming war will not use nuclear weapons (as in the Second World War-chemical), and we will fight on our territory with partisan methods! GRU Colonel Kvachkov proposed to Putin the organization of such a war, the creation of warehouses in the forests and taiga - he immediately fired him, the goal is different ...
    Every man should be READY !!!
    1. nycsson Rank
      nycsson
      0
      1 July 2012 21: 32
      Quote: Prophet Alyosha
      Every man must be READY !!!


      Always ready! Yes, only we have one more problem in the country! My little sons divorced too much, who paid off the army, which means they don’t know which side to approach the machine with, and the service in 1 didn’t add a year of combat capability ......
      1. urchik
        urchik
        0
        2 July 2012 06: 09
        jam them you need to sissy
    2. viktor_ui Rank
      viktor_ui
      +1
      3 July 2012 05: 11
      the prophet Alyosha - and I prefer to answer in the same way and let the authorities provide me with this opportunity (this is their direct responsibility) .... otherwise, your photo does not have zipuns, bast shoes and slingshot (no offense)
  • FiremanRS
    FiremanRS
    +2
    1 July 2012 18: 38
    And only I noticed that the article did not say - can or not reflect? It is written about how much they can send, it is written about how much they can not launch ICBMs, but not a word about whether the attack will repel thousands of missiles and aircraft carrying non-atomic ammunition.
    1. RUS-36
      RUS-36
      +1
      1 July 2012 22: 42
      The balance of forces between NATO and the Russian Federation is not in Russia's favor and it is a FACT, but where ours didn’t disappear, WE WILL RESET, not for the first time to beat the adversary .... where can they only be buried then ?? ....
    2. Corneli
      Corneli
      0
      2 July 2012 00: 55
      Logically, he answered how much they would stop, and the fact that in the event of a conflict absolutely everyone will shoot, you yourself should understand. At the moment, this "all" will not reflect either NATO's missile defense / air defense or Russia's missile defense / air defense.
  • ra1647
    ra1647
    +5
    1 July 2012 18: 48
    If a nuclear war starts, it doesn’t matter how many air defense missiles fall, everyone will die in America in Russia
  • Oleg U
    Oleg U
    +1
    1 July 2012 18: 48
    One would like to say: Sleep well the inhabitants of Baghdad, in Baghdad everything is calm! :). But only in Baghdad it is no longer calm and disturbing in Damascus. And there you look at these perverts, whom NATO called and will get to us not without the help of non-governmental organizations that shout about the dictatorship in Russia, with money allocated by the US State Department! No matter how we were defeated in the guts of the country itself ...
  • jagdpanzer Rank
    jagdpanzer
    0
    1 July 2012 18: 53
    we have the whole north open Figley that Moscow ... all gouging Moscow itself will die out laughing
  • AIR ZNAK Rank
    AIR ZNAK
    +1
    1 July 2012 18: 53
    According to the ABM treaty, we have 1 district-Moscow and the region. They (the USA) also have 1 district, but it covers the base of intercontinental missiles in the Midwest. The conclusion is obvious to anyone who is more important to cover someone’s asses or nuclear weapons delivery vehicles .
  • uizik Rank
    uizik
    +1
    1 July 2012 19: 09
    All this is nonsense! No one will ever reveal the technical characteristics and capabilities of their weapon systems under any conditions (if not disinfectant or traitor). Especially Moscow air defense. Willingly I believe - a nonsense himself!
  • Altor86 Rank
    Altor86
    +2
    1 July 2012 19: 17
    Who among the servicemen remembers the reduction of air defense in the 90s-2000s? These troops slaughtered with great zeal. Are there missilemen on the site? How many missiles are needed to hit the Tomahawk? And the ICBM? And how many air defense regiments are left in Russia?
    1. PSih2097 Rank
      PSih2097
      +2
      1 July 2012 20: 51
      How many missiles does it take to hit a Tomahawk?

      pairs of "Tunguska", if it flies through the area of ​​their location, the Tunguska cover the "Buk" and "S-300" as on the march and the near radius of the latter.
      A ICBM

      S-300V division (S-300PMU2)
      on the shelves of HZ
    2. nycsson Rank
      nycsson
      0
      1 July 2012 21: 38
      Quote: Altor86
      Who among the servicemen remembers the reduction of air defense in the 90s-2000s? These troops slaughtered with great zeal. Are there missilemen on the site? How many missiles are needed to hit the Tomahawk? And the ICBM? And how many air defense regiments are left in Russia?

      I already wrote about this in another article! To create such a system as we had, it will take decades, but we don’t have a couple of years left, and most importantly, the government doesn’t itch at all! Only capable of shaking the air .....
      1. PSih2097 Rank
        PSih2097
        +1
        1 July 2012 23: 11
        I already wrote about this in another article!

        Throw the link ...
  • Atlon
    Atlon
    +6
    1 July 2012 19: 30
    Well, why are these groans about the security of Moscow? To begin with, under the protection not Moscow as a city, but strategic management objects. In addition, in Russia, there are many of the same protected facilities. Of course, everyone wants to survive, but to cover the entire territory of the country with an anti-missile umbrella is a utopia. Ours understood this back in the 70s, so only the most important objects were protected, and the defense is REAL! Amer has been fighting over missile defense for about 30 years, and things are still there. American dreamers hope to create such an umbrella, but according to various estimates:
    1. this is not yet possible, technology does not allow
    2. This is a good excuse to make money. So without panic, everything is under control.
  • koksalek Rank
    koksalek
    -2
    1 July 2012 19: 31
    No, well, explain to me the unlucky one, well, there will be only Moscow and the whole scattering will be covered with a copper (or vigorous) basin and what? Who will be led or managed by those in Moscow, they’re just used to lead. And even more so, who will feed them? they’ll quickly eat their own, but there’s nothing from the breadwinner’s regions, and if the regions remain they won’t be able to survive in Moscow, to survive, an umbrella, like in Moscow there isn’t
    1. Veteran VMS
      Veteran VMS
      0
      2 July 2012 00: 18
      Yes, this example is carried out only for the "red" word, no more.
  • AIR ZNAK Rank
    AIR ZNAK
    +1
    1 July 2012 19: 44
    Why not good-for-nothing? It will be like that, only starting a war is fraught for them. We will answer in full measure and their allies too. And as a result, some Chukchi in the tundra will survive.
  • denkastro Rank
    denkastro
    +1
    1 July 2012 19: 44
    And the fact that the new Voronezh radars are being intensively built and they are designed specifically for quick assembly are not steps to strengthen the missile defense system? And the fact that the S-500 is promised to be completed next year, and not by 15-17 does not mean that that the country's leadership is in a hurry. Someone may be better, faster, please. Objectively, you need to think, and not be carried out on the next stuffing from Veni the traitor. The article is some rubbish, most likely phrases taken out of context. secret sections, so dear friends, let's not be like grandmas in the bazaar.
    1. ra1647
      ra1647
      0
      1 July 2012 20: 15
      just 23 trillion you need to spend or steal on the army, and then report for the people's money
  • ivansaxonov
    ivansaxonov
    +1
    1 July 2012 19: 56
    No, well, explain to me the unlucky one, well, there will be only Moscow and the whole scattering will be covered with a copper (or vigorous) basin and what? Who will be led or managed by those in Moscow, they’re just used to lead. And even more so, who will feed them? they’ll quickly eat their own, but there’s nothing from the breadwinner’s regions, and if the regions remain they won’t be able to survive in Moscow, to survive, an umbrella, like in Moscow there isn’t


    The article does not seem to say about the complete absence of air defense in the regions. And the powerful defense of Moscow, the capital of our country, is a justifiable measure! Indeed, in the absence of such protection, Moscow would become an easy, and most importantly, a very desirable target for American missiles! Even if you close your eyes to the fact that this is a strategic control center, and even to the fact that a large part of the country's population is concentrated in Moscow and Moscow Region (turning a blind eye to this is unthinkable, but nonetheless) ... I imagine the morale of the defenders of the Motherland, if on the first day of the war the radio announced the fall of the capital ...
    1. Denzel13
      Denzel13
      +2
      1 July 2012 20: 14
      Did you get excited about "most of the strana population"?
      Or is it bad for people living outside the Moscow Ring Road and the adjacent area with mathematics?
  • wolk71 Rank
    wolk71
    +1
    1 July 2012 20: 15
    Why only Moscow, so throughout Russia, I hope.
    1. nycsson Rank
      nycsson
      -3
      1 July 2012 21: 34
      Quote: wolk71
      Why only Moscow, so throughout Russia, I hope.

      Well, you give a pancake!
  • ivansaxonov
    ivansaxonov
    0
    1 July 2012 20: 19
    Did you get excited about "most of the strana population"?


    Not a big, but a big part. Or do you think that the population of these two regions is insignificant?
    1. Denzel13
      Denzel13
      0
      1 July 2012 20: 46
      But how can we argue - which of the county towns with representatives of the "superior race"? That's right - not mature enough!
      It is absolutely true that they wrote above, at present there are at least no less important places in which strategic enterprises and resources are concentrated. By the way, the importance of these regions was not disputed in my commentary. Stress in a word is certainly strength, but it is a minus to you that you could not convey your thought in a clear and undeniable form, since you can interpret it in different ways (as you kindly indicated simply by changing the stress).
      1. ivansaxonov
        ivansaxonov
        +2
        1 July 2012 20: 54
        I didn’t think that someone could read this word in this context incorrectly.
  • 5aa1
    5aa1
    +2
    1 July 2012 20: 27
    enemies can eliminate our entire missile defense system, but they will never break us. we can’t be broken.
  • ivansaxonov
    ivansaxonov
    +1
    1 July 2012 20: 40
    just 23 trillion you need to spend or steal on the army, and then report for the people's money

    When will whiners be translated in Russia? :)
  • suharev-52 Rank
    suharev-52
    0
    1 July 2012 21: 20
    They counted well. Arithmetic - 5. The other day I read a book from the series "Nuclear Science Fiction" Well written. Even the cause of the nuclear catastrophe is indicated: the invasion of Syria by the States. And someone is a vigorous loaf of Israel, and like dominoes All cities are destroyed. Survived a little. I recommend. Mikhail Gvor "Striking factor". Sincerely.
  • Hedgehog
    Hedgehog
    -3
    1 July 2012 22: 05
    blinnnn Saratov will be destroyed! not! people I live 63h km from Saratov what should I do ?! if there will be a boom? And also Tatishchevo is near and Balakovo NPP

    By the way, there is a legend that we have a bunker under the first school!
  • UAZ Patriot Rank
    UAZ Patriot
    -3
    1 July 2012 22: 09
    It means that the 999th missile will be shot down in the suburbs, and the 1000th over the Kremlin? - I think so? or the whole thousand will be shot down if it is launched, for example, from one direction without reaching the borders of Russia ??? Some kind of blurry article !!!
  • 77bor1973
    77bor1973
    -1
    1 July 2012 22: 40
    As far as I understand from the article, only the 9th Air Defense Division can cope with such a number of missiles, omitting air defense units in other regions!
  • youth
    youth
    +3
    1 July 2012 22: 49
    Why are you all so scared ?? They are what these Americans are invulnerable chtoli or invisible they all, think that to launch such a number of missiles you need to press one button and that's it ???
    They will not attack the small countries until they are safe 100 times, not like Russia !!
    And whoever says "echo of Moscow" - from these nits I have never heard a kind word addressed to Russia ....
    1. PSih2097 Rank
      PSih2097
      -2
      1 July 2012 23: 16
      Why are you all scared like that?

      If we bend the Euro NATO one way or another, then in the case of the UWB there will be an arrival of a "northern fur-bearing animal" for the entire planet ... only cosmonauts on the ISS will survive if they do not kill each other before that.
  • Veteran VMS
    Veteran VMS
    -1
    2 July 2012 00: 20
    The comment on duty, and so much emotion!
    Intriguing.
  • Crimea
    Crimea
    0
    2 July 2012 00: 44
    There are "fingerprints" of Russia here, - said the diplomat, to whose words Uzi Makhnaimi refers. The source of information summarizes the reasons for the decision to shoot down the plane as follows: "Syria is not Libya, and any attempt to enter a no-fly zone over Syria will be met by one of the world's most powerful air defense systems and will cost dearly to any attacking side."
  • Magadan Rank
    Magadan
    +1
    2 July 2012 04: 57
    If we assume that the aggressor is only the United States, then there will be no nuclear war.
    And if we assume that the real aggressor is the "world behind the scenes" (Jewish Masons, Rothschilds, the US Federal Reserve, the richest 1%, etc.), then the prospect is terrible. They will simply set the USA or anyone else on us, and they themselves will sit out somewhere on a distant island.
    National governments are less and less like real governments, and more and more reminiscent of simple puppets. And their puppeteers are unknown in person.
    1. cc-20 Rank
      cc-20
      +1
      2 July 2012 07: 30
      Mr. Magadan, firstly an unhappy billionaire, unlike a millionaire who can carry his million in a chyumadan, it is very difficult to hide on the planet, their main assets are factories, newspapers, parades, and most importantly securities and deposits. It makes no sense for them to start a war in which they lose their wealth and power, and this is precisely the current situation. They live in the medieval castles of Europe, which are crammed with paintings of the Renaissance and other treasures to which they are very attached, hence we have a detente in Europe, and Europro is precisely for protection from unpredictable Russia that could ruin their castles.
  • viktor_ui Rank
    viktor_ui
    -1
    2 July 2012 05: 05
    There is a question about the posted photo of the ABM pyramid ..., as I understand it, crows twirl circles over a sim object. Now the question is to the opinion of experts: will the birds cut circles over the active object (well, or over the often active) ???
  • mpanichkin Rank
    mpanichkin
    -1
    2 July 2012 06: 19
    As they are already dear to their Moscow. We have that Moscow is the whole country! It's time to think about other regions!
  • DmitryDmitry
    DmitryDmitry
    -1
    2 July 2012 06: 46
    To repel a thousand missiles from Moscow is certainly fine, but how much can we repel the PLA tanks and infantry on the eastern frontier. The main danger now is not hanging over Moscow.
  • Trofimov174
    Trofimov174
    0
    2 July 2012 06: 46
    Recently, very often began to raise the topic of the alleged nuclear war, what is it? Neither today, nor in the near and distant future, the chance of starting such a war will gain even tenths of a probability. And no matter how much you frighten satellite photographs of American airfields crammed with bombers (and you find something to frighten, old B-52s like our Tu-95s, due to their obsolescence, will be shot down without having to remove the chassis after takeoff), the probability that when - Somehow they cross our borders with bad intentions, zero. Well, if we did not lose our sovereignty, we were actively cutting everything in the 90s, but today we should not worry about it even more so.
  • Magadan Rank
    Magadan
    -1
    2 July 2012 07: 17
    Quote: DmitryDmitry
    how much can we repel the PLA tanks and infantry on the eastern frontier

    As much as you like if you beat a pair of missiles with nuclear weapons at their troops or even just at the rear. PLA is not a threat yet, but rather an ally, because NATO is also prevented from living peacefully.
  • wolverine7778
    wolverine7778
    -1
    2 July 2012 08: 13
    Why break through Moscow’s missile defense system? It’s easier to bring 4 warheads with nuclear charges and explode them by terrorists unnoticed from different paths. wassat
  • serge
    serge
    -1
    2 July 2012 08: 44
    A missile defense system near Moscow is not for Moscow residents, but for the government to be able to hide in a bunker on time. But to the inhabitants, it doesn’t matter if nuclear missiles explode on the ground or above their heads - it’s the end anyway. Many publications have written about this.
  • AK-74-1 Rank
    AK-74-1
    -1
    2 July 2012 09: 07
    I will say 2 things. I really do not like when the generals begin to tongue out. And the second thing that pleases, judging by the comments, the words of the talker do not diverge from reality.
  • ups Rank
    ups
    +1
    2 July 2012 09: 54
    Already wrote and I repeat, such a volley and such an attack are not possible for all NATO countries, they do not have carriers, that's the fact from Wikipedia
    I was not too lazy and calculated at maximum impact filling they can concentrate 5100 missiles, and we all have

    Russia: 1900 launchers S-300PT / PS / PMU, 200 launchers S-300V / S-300V1 as of 2010, here is the answer to you

    23 nuclear submarines of the Los Angeles type, 12 KR;
    4 Ohio-class submarines, up to 154 missile launchers [16] (7 missiles in drum-type launchers for each of 22 mines from Trident SLBMs, actually 98-140 missiles, depending on the composition of the special operations forces);
    3 submarines of the Sivulf type, up to 50 charges for torpedo tubes, including cruise missiles;
    9 submarines of the Virginia type, up to 12 KR;
    The British submarine type "Suiftshur" displacement 4900 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 20 torpedoes and missiles;
    The British submarine type Trafalgar displacement 5200 tons, 5 torpedo tubes, 25 torpedoes and missiles;
    British strike submarine of the Astyut type (2007, the first of four of this class), displacement of 7200/7800 tons, service life ~ 30 years, 6 torpedo tubes, 48 ​​torpedoes and missiles;
    61 destroyers of the “Arly Burke” type in service and five more are being built at the Brunswick and Pascaguly shipyards, the capacity of two VPU Mk41 of the Aegis system is 90/96 cells (depending on the ship series) [17] [18]. In the universal version of armament, the ship carries 8 “Tomahawks”, in the shock - 56;
    22 missile cruisers of the “Ticonderoga” type, VPU Mk41 capacity of the Aegis system - 122 cells, typical load - 26 KR “Tomahawk”;
    From 2013, the descent of 2 new destroyers of the type DDG-1000 with 80 PU each

    It is also funny to hear that protection only in Moscow, about Moscow, starts from Kaliningrad, Belarus, Kronshtat, the Kola Peninsula and the Black Sea.
    1. Altor86 Rank
      Altor86
      0
      2 July 2012 18: 22
      If you take into account the number of PUs that you gave, then this is about 90 regiments. Where so much?! PTs were generally cut long ago.
  • denkastro Rank
    denkastro
    -1
    2 July 2012 10: 55
    I’m telling you, this is just another hoax for hysterics. Suddenly they’ll fight. laughing
  • Gakkoga Rank
    Gakkoga
    0
    2 July 2012 10: 57
    The cost of building such a system along the perimeter of the borders of the Russian Federation and allied countries will be astronomical, everyone understands this. An asymmetric response to threats of large-scale bombing with non-nuclear weapons seems more reasonable; among such options, unless one considers nuclear weapons as a response, there are not many that can be called. Any weapon no less destructive and murderous in power will be required. It turns out that both sides understand that such a non-nuclear bombing will not have the desired effect, and if nuclear is required, then in response you will receive very powerful and formidable resistance, which will most likely lead to the fact that there will be no one left to honor the laurels of the winner. This means that we don’t need such a system along the entire border, but we need to cover the most important areas and develop those weapons systems that can, if necessary, DECORATELY PUNISH THE ENEMY!!!
    1. Altor86 Rank
      Altor86
      0
      2 July 2012 18: 42
      The main thing is that there is someone left to punish sad
  • Strashila Rank
    Strashila
    +3
    2 July 2012 12: 33
    I read... I laughed. Who needs Moscow as a goal? Well, no one. All the recent wars, wars for resources. Everything valuable beyond the Urals. And there's naughty stuff... I don't want to. That Norilsk is closed... Yamal... everything is open... and so on and so forth, which gives the country currency and raw materials for the defense industry. Demolish the main pipelines and paralyze the North... and that’s all... Moscow’s economy will be equal to Africa, with that to the poorest part of it.
  • korvin1976 Rank
    korvin1976
    +1
    2 July 2012 19: 02
    Our missile defense system, like all other systems, is a kind of deterrence shield, there is a sword - strategic troops.
    It makes no sense to develop only a “sword”; without a shield you won’t have time to “snatch” it.
    In this case, we are talking about the fact that if a missile strike occurs, not all the power of the enemy will be able to resist, so that we can respond adequately or not.
    If the enemy sends 1000 missiles and we respond in kind, the earth will already be in trouble, even if these missiles do not explode.
    Strategic troops and strategic missile defense are weapons of deterrence. And I hope that neither one nor the other will be used.
  • alex86 Rank
    alex86
    0
    2 July 2012 20: 26
    I’ll add a couple of splashes from myself (well, not really from myself) to the general verbal diarrhea, quote: “I recently saw the secret maps of the General Staff - so there is no America on them...” film Down House.
    And don’t be too lazy to carry all this nonsense...
  • viktor_ui Rank
    viktor_ui
    +1
    3 July 2012 05: 04
    Question to the minus on the topic - WITHOUT A MINUS, LIKE WITHOUT A CASE, THERE IS NOTHING TO ANSWER, BUT IT’S NICE??? Don't bother your sick little hand. wassat