Ukraine is concerned about the "disappearance" of boats and a tugboat of the Ukrainian Navy from a parking lot in Kerch

Ukrainian military boats and tugboats moored there, involved in the incident in the Kerch Strait, and arrested by the Border Guard Service of the Federal Security Service, disappeared from the Russian port. It is reported by the Ukrainian edition of "Crimea. Realia", which is under the patronage of the American "Radio Liberty".

The Ukrainian military boats Berdyansk and Nikopol, as well as the tugboat Yany Kapu, detained by the FSB of Russia in November 2018 during the incident in the Kerch Strait, disappeared from the last stop. This was reported by the resource "Crimea. Realia", which is a project of the Ukrainian service "Radio Svoboda".

According to the publication, the ships were moved in an unknown direction.

"Crimea. Realia" claims that on the eve of the resource journalists carried out photographing the waters of the port "Genmol" in Kerch: it was there that the Ukrainian ships were moored in recent months.

According to the Ukrainian media, the boats were previously covered with a camouflage net. At the time of the shooting, they were not in their usual place, but the tug of Yana Kapu remained. Subsequently, according to eyewitness accounts, he was also driven off.

The press service of the Frontier Department of the Federal Security Service of Russia has not yet publicly reported on the movement of Ukrainian ships.

After the incident with the Ukrainian warships in November 2018 of the year and their armed interception, the crews were arrested and put on trial, and the ships were escorted to the port of Kerch.

24 Ukrainian servicemen detained during the "Cerchesa Incident" were charged under h. 3 Art. 322 of the Criminal Code of Russia (illegal border crossing). Seafarers face up to 6 years in prison. All of them were transferred to Moscow.

In May, the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea in Hamburg, responding to the demand of Ukraine, by its decision demanded that the Russian Federation promptly release ships and their crews as temporary measures. According to the same decision, Moscow had to fulfill this requirement by June 25. The Russian side, for its part, does not recognize the authority of the UN court in this matter.

This incident is not within the jurisdiction of this court and is not subject to jurisdiction. The powers of the court simply do not apply to this situation, you know that.

- commented on the situation, the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov.

Comments

[210ox]

Sent to Novoazovsk? I hope

[nPuBaTuP]

Sold to scrap metal in Turkey

[210ox]

It’s not for us, it’s for ukroubytki. About scrap metal.

[krot]

We need to exchange them with the same Sumerians for our civilian captured ships. And so we stand, only this place is occupied by this scrap metal.

[Horse, people and soul]

Sold to scrap metal in Turkey

Not sold, but transferred. And the Turks were told that they would have set the bill for butchering Kukuev. Their ships - their costs.

Together with Zaporizhia.



A kind of trolling!

[Shrpv]

At the scrap metal collection point. There is nothing to occupy near the wall.

[Hagalaz]

Drowned for stealth can?

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Hagalaz

Drowned for stealth can?

Not. This is a tricky plan to free ukrovoenmorov. No ships - no border violations. So, a small fine, like pedestrians.

[spech]

Not. This is a tricky plan to free ukrovoenmorov. No ships - no border violations. So, a small fine, like pedestrians.

On water, like a dry land

[Horse, people and soul]

Novoazovsk not under the shit?

[210ox]

No, under the DNI. The only place where they can be based.

[Horse, people and soul]

Well, then, God himself ordered, as they say.

Sent to Ukraine (in LDNR !!!) - who do not like it, let them try to pick it up.

[Antares]

Quote: Horse, people and soul

Novoazovsk not under kaklami?

I look at the rules of the forum about offensive ones - it acts only in relation to one side. Ukraine and Ukrainians can be officially modified.

[Horse, people and soul]

Ukraine and Ukrainians - separately, and Kakly and Martians - separately, dear.

My beloved grandfather, the kingdom of heaven to him, who went through the Finnish and Patriotic War, was Ukrainian according to his passport, was born near Lugansk in the village of Uspenskaya. But he is certainly not of the same nationality with those poopers that with the portrait of Bandera, with swastikas and torches marching around Kiev, shouting Nazi slogans and slogans.

Ukraine and Ukrainians separately. Kakly - separately from them.

I can write "ukronatsisty" instead of "kakly". Will you be fine?

[Antares]

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

Ukraine and Ukrainians - separately, and Kakly and Martians - separately, dear

in this case we are talking about the state of Ukraine and its Ukrainian citizens. I did not see in their passports (and they are entirely from Odessa and Nikolaev) your names in a separate line.
Yes, and they are now passing in court like Martians and your fantasy nicknames. Pass as Ukrainian-Ukrainian citizens.

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

But he’s definitely not of the same nationality with those shit

of course. Like my grandfather, who survived the Romanian occupation, they were Soviet citizens.
Then there was no Russian or Ukrainian. There were all Soviet.
And there are not so many fans of the cult of mythical heroes like Bandera or Shukhevych. Total 5 thousand.
Yes, they do not serve in separate parts or ships. They simply have fun in their fire shows.
do not confuse nationalist and Nazi slogans.

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

Ukraine and Ukrainians separately. Kakly - separately from them.

if I start writing diminutively derogatory nicknames of Russians, Russians will bane me quickly. The punishing hand of the law is distributed exclusively in these cases. Not knowing what I mean there separately.
I am glad for you that you can write insults in VO only in one direction. Well. These are still emotions. They do not make sober decisions.

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

I can write "ukronatsisty" instead of "kakly". Will you be fine?

you have the right to write whatever you like. There is a framework of decency, there are declared forum rules.
The freedom of each ends where the freedom of the other begins.
I always thought that VO is very different from the same Censor, where on the contrary you can insulting nicknames of Russians and banyats for Ukrainian ones.

[gsev]

Quote: Antares

do not confuse nationalist and Nazi slogans.

In my opinion, Bandera and Konovalets are more odious personalities than Eichmann or Himler. Can you find arguments refuting this opinion? Of course, given the fact that at one time the Ukrainian people were not led like German on Nazi slogans.

[purple]

And there are not so many fans of the cult of mythical heroes like Bandera or Shukhevych. Total 5 thousand.

You yourself are not funny ????
5 million, this is closer to the truth ... but I think the figure is somewhere around 10

[Thrall]

Maybe rotted?

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Thrall

Maybe rotted?

That neither, only from the stocks ... Although, maybe here the steel is not the same, the primer there is thin, and the paint .... Well, the "dachurki" then go all the command staff of the Naval Forces of Ukraine are painted in radically blocky colors.

[tihonmarine]

Yes, most likely rotted and sank at the pier.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Gee .... let them go for scrap! Now, when the democrats howl, they have to look down and say, “the Russian mafia is to blame for everything”. Then run the chip that the bodies of the investigating team and the prosecutor were found at the bottom of the Kerch Strait. Show a photo of a Skripal cat! Interview Bashirova and Petrova, then just do not pickle !!! Scary after all !!!

[Vadim Golubkov]

Maybe how the targets will be used for firing.

[Incvizitor]

And banderlog with these tubs to put there.

[Krotov]

Drowned just so as not to take a place .. AND EVERYTHING!

[Mountain shooter]

And why do they suddenly take the fate of our trophies?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And why do they suddenly take the fate of our trophies?

Good question. We need to calculate the amount, how much the Russian budget spent on the operation to suppress provocation, detain ships and escort them to the impoundment (fuel, use of ammunition, depreciation of boats, military personnel salary, etc.) ... You see, the amount of claim presented Urkaine to recover will exceed the value of their vessels and will induce them to what they say - "Shos!? Yaki boats? That is not ours!"

[tihonmarine]

Due to the forfeit, they sold it to Guinea Bissau.

[Amin_vivec]

There are trophies during the war. And this is the property with the help of which the criminal offense was committed, and at the same time material evidence in the criminal case. Confiscate to "STATE INCOME" and sell at auction))))

[Antares]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

And this is the property with which the criminal offense was committed, and at the same time the material evidence in the criminal case.

warships and sailors of recognized countries are immune from this.
And in this incident, the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea in Hamburg made a statement. This means that it is more than all Ukrainian and Russian courts.

[Vanek]

Quote: Antares

Hamburg has spoken

TELL YOU WHERE AND WHAT WE ARE THIS HAMBURG OF A SCROLLER FOR !!!

[Rzzz]

Quote: Antares

warships and sailors of recognized countries are immune from this.

Yes, but only as long as they comply with the laws. They invaded our state with military weapons. What kind of immunity is this?

[purple]

Quote: Antares

And in this incident, the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea in Hamburg made a statement. This means that it is more than all Ukrainian and Russian courts.

You have already been told about the tribunal ... in this case, it has no power, because Russian ter. water, and the violators were detained.
This is normal...

[4ybys]

I hope that as a result of this operation, the FSB has established the identities of people shooting objects of maritime infrastructure in the interests of unfriendly states.

[Grits]

But what, trophies can not be used for its intended purpose? I think the tug will not be superfluous in any port. And boats, if they do not fit into our fleet, can be sold. Or give away. Donbass.

[Horse, people and soul]

You can and a little trickier. Russia recognizes Donbass Ukraine.

Duc, transfer to Ukraine ... but in the Donbass!



A kind of trolling.

[Sergey39]

Yes, and sailors can be transferred there, for exchange

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Horse, people and soul

You can and a little trickier. Russia recognizes Donbass Ukraine.
Duc, transfer to Ukraine ... but in the Donbass!

A kind of trolling.

This is genius. :)

[Antares]

Quote: Gritsa

no trophies

these are not trophies. Pass as detainees.
Including the fleet in Donuzl
Confiscation for the purpose of selling or to their Navy is fraught with the fact that they will only be able to sail at their ports. Yes and there will be too much consequence given the actions of the worthless prices of these ships.
Well, while there is no such decision of the internal court.
Again, the military and property of the Navy of all countries have immunity. They can not be judged.

[hydrox]

Do not lie!
They violated our border privately, while not being at war and not carrying out military operations.

[Thrifty]

It was given to the republics — people need to have their own start up, and basically a trophy, but a navy!

[aivengo2.0]

And what is it to think about, first on the cogs in search of ancient secret technologies for the Sumerian World Cup diggers., Then on the needles . Th for simple and sod-e do not pay, owed type

[Horse, people and soul]

In the underwater squadron of the Navy Durkaina addition.

[gurzuf]

Come on panic! Plav. funds are engaged in skating Ukrainian tourists vacationing with us in the Crimea. Somehow it is necessary to financially justify their parking in the winter in Sevastopol.

[hydrox]

Oh, look, your boats will be stolen ukroturisto - what evidence will you bring to the court?

[gurzuf]

When they will steal, the second stage of finding these vessels with us will come. Automatically become targets for our very polite people

[Avis-bis]

disappeared from the last parking spot

Well, since "the last", then it is clear that either for cutting, or for the landfill - as an experimental vessel. :)

[iaroslav.mudryi]

Yes, they were removed until completely rotted. 3 Izvestia published a photo and video of rusty combat modules of boats a month ago.

Fighting stilts: Ukrainian boats turned out to be rusty.
https://iz.ru/859168/aleksei-ramm-bogdan-stepovoi-aleksei-kozachenko-tatiana-baikova/boevye-khoduli-ukrainskie-katera-okazalis-rzhavymi

The Katran-M installation itself - the 30-mm gun and coaxial machine gun - is in a deplorable state. Rust is visible not only on the power elements of the module, but also on the bodies of the gun and machine gun. Raises a lot of questions and the build quality of the combat installation. So, a fire-hazardous rag tape and plastic mounts-leashes, which wiring is attached to the power structures of the module, are striking. To stabilize the barrel of the 30-mm gun, a home-made balancer assembled from steel sheets that are bolted together is used when firing.

on video
https://cache-igi.cdnvideo.ru/igi/video/2019/3/22/эксклюзив%20моряки%20с%20плашками_logo_5.mp4
the moment of inspection of the armament of boats by representatives of Russian law enforcement agencies, who very emotionally comment on the technical condition and design features of Ukrainian armaments.

[Mavrikiy]

According to the publication, the ships were moved in an unknown direction.

That neither. There you constantly need to scoop up water with a tin can, but the Navy did not train rats, the rats are washed off, boats and sank ... There you need to poke a sixth, maybe it will pop up ....

[Elephant]

Enterprising Kerch decided to improve their financial situation and turned into scrap metal.

[AB]

All that is not needed for scrap, we collect scrap metal.

[Romanenko]

But how can you leave such a potential at the wall ....
Of course, the Moscow fleet secretly brought them to the expanses of the seas to frighten American aircraft carrier groups.

[Grigory b]

The last parking lot: "The fourth blast furnace of the Cherepovets metallurgical plant"

[Kondratko]

Why drag these troughs so far? There is a large electrometallurgical plant in Stary Oskol, Belgorod region. Cut into pieces, transportation by trucks one night to the copra shop, and then in the oven (for the good of the Motherland), as they say "from the fucking candy." )

[rus-5819]

ships were moved in an unknown direction.

It is only in Kiev that the "dobrobats" move in the "known" direction

Ukrainian media say that earlier boats were covered with a camouflage net. At the time of the shooting, they were not in their usual place, but the tugboat “Yana Kapu” remained. Subsequently, according to eyewitnesses, he was also driven away.

So the network was needed for more important matters than to cover the rusty pelvis!
Well, the question for the FSB is: what ..... she dared to remove a strategic object - a port in Russia?

[Amateur]

Forwarded to the Basmanny court to serve as material evidence.

[evgic]

They removed their weapons and retrained as a scavenger. So that the appearance corresponds to the internal content

[Horse, people and soul]

The main thing is that they will never drown, bugagahaha !!!

For a known reason ...

[Den717]

They haven’t gone anywhere. They simply transferred to another place so that our border guards would not interfere with parking.

[Berkut24]

Our scrap metal. Wherever we want, there we cut it.

[Horse, people and soul]

Uh, nooo ... it was necessary to send to Turkey for cutting and to the Turks to say that they would send the bill for cutting to Kukuev. And then the Turks will shake everything from Kukuev to the last lira!

[Metallurg_2]

They sent them to the metal building industry, as well as the underwater choven "Zaporizhzhia". These vessels are not enough for more.

[Astra wild]

"the ships were moved in an unknown direction" perhaps the Roma took it for scrap?

[Astra wild]

Quote: Den717

They haven’t gone anywhere. They simply transferred to another place so that our border guards would not interfere with parking.

Or maybe they freed up space for the next? Remember, they were going to repeat the provocation

[Antares]

not VO but a booth of comments.
You won’t find serious comments in the afternoon with fire (except in the weapons and history section)
cheers patriots alone.
In Russia, they say that the detained ships did not leave the water area of ​​the Kerch port. They were simply rearranged to another mooring wall, located ten meters from the former place, writes TASS, citing a source in the power structures of the Crimea.
opinion of the chairman of the St. Petersburg Club of submariners Igor Kurdin.

Now the most absurd assumptions will sound. There was a violation, the ships were arrested, figuratively speaking, driven to a parking lot. Based on international practice, after the end of the proceedings, such ships are usually returned to the owner country. No weapons are removed from them. Some sanctions will probably be, quite possibly, material ones. And after, relatively speaking, paying the fine, they will return to Ukraine. Given the current situation, I think it will be quite long negotiations

I do not think that they were transported to Sevastopol, because the transition there is quite lengthy, and the boats would be spotted. There is a website on the Internet that tracks the movement of all surface ships and vessels.
I think that they were "repackaged", somewhere nearby they were put and closed with camouflage nets. They do not require special maintenance, these are small-sized ships, or rather, river artillery boats, better known under the code "Gyurza-M". They are designed for military watch on the border rivers, lakes, as well as in the coastal sea zone.
But most likely, they were simply dragged ashore. This is not particularly difficult. The displacement of these armored boats is 54 tons, length - 23 meters, width - 4,8 meters, draft about one meter. They have a removable armored cabin. Possibility of transportation by An-124 Ruslan aircraft was laid. Having pulled ashore, I think that they were covered with waterproof material for better preservation. Nothing will be done to them. These boats are relatively new. They are designed and built in Ukraine. For their class, these are good ships.

in Ukraine, a couple of publications were concerned with the issue, and in the Russian Federation, all publications reprinted material about "the concern of all of Ukraine." It's funny, of course. The wave was raised.
In Ukraine, I did not hear this news at all - I found out on VO that we are "Anxious about where the ships have gone"

[purple]

Quote: Antares

In Ukraine, I did not hear this news at all - I found out on VO that we are "Anxious about where the ships have gone"

Well, I also didn’t hear ... yes, to be honest, anyway ... but if they give it back ... it would be necessary to bill Ukraine, for a parking lot.

[Horse, people and soul]

Quote: Antares

And there are not so many fans of the cult of mythical heroes like Bandera or Shukhevych. Total 5 thousand.
Yes, they do not serve in separate parts or ships. They simply have fun in their fire shows.
do not confuse nationalist and Nazi slogans.

You are too sensitive to literary forms and tend to whitewash Nazism and war criminals.

That was just recently. June 2, 2014. The bombing of the Lugansk administration. Who did this? Ukrainians? I can’t call them that name anymore.

Odessa May 2, 2014 - pregnant woman strangled with a telephone cable in the house of trade unions

Have fun, say?

[purple]

Antares will not answer you ... because there is nothing to say ... a typical "Ukrainian" ugh ... as soon as the earth wears them

[LeonidL]

Why rot in the parking lot? Passed into the society of amateur fishermen! ... from the DNI-LC. I'd like to believe in it.

[Cat]

They drowned (C)

[Swetly]

Well, moved to a new parking spot, that's the problem. From a fly - an elephant.

[nord72]

They study how American "tomahawks" have dismantled and steal their secrets, then there is nothing.

[sgr291158]

Sell ​​them Khokhlov, let them buy if necessary.