Laser fever

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The passive role of lasers is changing before our eyes. Laser weapon It becomes an aggressive means of not only defense, but also attack, feeling more and more confident on land, sea and in the air.





Until recently, the role of a laser for the most part was limited to the provision of range data and illumination, marking and designation of targets for semi-active homing or course correction of missiles induced along the beam. In addition, lasers have been successfully used as blinding devices, in a number of applications with remote fuses, as well as in systems of controlled counteraction to infrared weapons against infrared-guided missiles.

Protection against lasers can be provided by sensors capable of detecting, identifying and locating the source, by means of obstructing observation, thereby preventing the collection of information, and, finally, by filters that prevent damage to optical systems, including the human eye. Currently, high power laser systems or high energy lasers (English, HEL - High Energy Laser), capable of destroying targets such as small Drones both projectiles and damage to larger systems are on the verge of mass operational deployment, and developers and planners should already think carefully about how to counter them.

Undoubtedly, the United States implements most of the programs on lasers, but Russia, China, Germany, Israel and the United Kingdom are also working on similar systems, and according to the Congressional analytical service, the United States is unlikely to have a clear advantage here.

Marine systems


In the early stages, most of the operational use of lasers on board warships will most likely be reduced to combating UAVs, unmanned boats and high-speed combat boats, which will require systems of relatively low power. Knocking down anti-ship missiles and even aircraft will require more powerful weapons class 150 kW.

The US Navy, the most enthusiastic supporter of this technology, is financing several laser weapons systems under one large SNLWS (Surface Navy Laser Weapon System) program. In March, Lockheed Martin's 2018 was awarded a contract for the first system or first phase. Under this 150 million-dollar contract, she will design, manufacture and supply two high-energy lasers with a High Energy Laser and Integrated Optical-dazzler with Surveillance Optical-blinding HELIOS device, one for installation on an Arleigh Burke class destroyer and one for testing on the shore. The contract also provides for an option for HELIOS 14 systems. Upon successful completion of the tests, these options will increase the value of the contracts to about 943 millions.

"The HELIOS program is the first of its kind, it combines laser weapons, long-distance reconnaissance and surveillance, and antidroning capabilities into a single whole, which will dramatically increase the level of control of the situation and increase the layered defense options available to the US Navy," and sensors.

The HELIOS program includes a fiber optic 60 kW laser for combatting UAVs and small boats, a sensing long-range reconnaissance and surveillance system integrated with the ship's Aegis combat control system, and a low-power blinding laser for disrupting the operation of enemy UAVs. The primary laser is reported to have growth potential up to 150 kW.

As part of the first phase, Lockheed Martin will deliver two HELIOS systems for testing by 2020, one for installation on the Arleigh Burke class destroyer and one for testing on land at the White Sands test site.

Laser fever

The battery of the Iron Beam complex is mobile and consists of a radar station, a command and control station and two platforms with lasers


Dazzling odin


The second system is a low-power laser ODIN (Optical Dazzling Interdictor, Navy - optical dazzling device, for fleet), designed to dazzle and disable UAV sensors. According to the U.S. Navy, the main components of the ODIN system include a beam-guiding device, which in turn includes a telescopic subsystem and low-inertia mirrors, two laser emitters and a set of sensors for coarse and accurate aiming at the target and, as in HELIOS, for reconnaissance and surveillance.

The third system, known under the designation SSL-TM (Solid-State Laser-Technology Maturation), is a more powerful development of the Laser Weapon System (LaWS) program, in accordance with which the 30-kW laser was installed to evaluate landing ship San Antiono. In the 2015 year, under the SSL-TM program, Northrop Grumman was selected to develop an 150 kW weapon that will be installed on a San Antonio class vessel during the 2019 year.

Current plans include the development of technology to support the second phase of SNLWS and the further development of the HELIOS subprogram. The third phase of the SNLWS project is also planned, and the power of the laser weapon will be further increased.

The fourth system, designated RHEL (Ruggedised High Energy Laser), is also in preparation. The initial power is also 150 kW, but it will implement a different architecture that can handle more power in the future. The US Navy in 2019 is planning to spend about 300 million dollars on these weapons systems.

Experienced vehicle systems


The prototype of the Lockheed Martin Athena portable ground-based laser has confirmed its ability to shoot down small drones. The company published a video in which the laser shoots down five drones in a row, each time aiming at the vertical tail of the vehicles.

When capturing a UAV or a small boat, the operator visually makes sure that the object is enemy and selects the aiming point using an accurate infrared sensor. According to the company, for fast-moving targets, such as rockets and mines, the Athena system operates independently without an operator in the control loop. Although Athena is still a prototype, the company claims that the hardened version will be suitable for combat use.

The system uses the ALADIN (Accelerated Laser Demonstration Initiative) fiber-optic laser with a power of Lockheed Martin 30 kW. In the ALADIN system, several laser modules work together, this configuration makes it relatively easy to scale the power of the weapon to higher values.

Another system, this time being developed for the American army, performed well on the Maneuver Fires Integrated Experiments (MFIX) army exercises, conducted at the beginning of 2018. This weapon system received the designation MEHEL (Mobile Experimental High Energy Laser). It is a Boeing 5 kW laser machine installed on a Stryker 8x8 armored vehicle. The MEHEL system confirmed its ability during the MFIX exercises to shoot down small-sized helicopters and aircraft-type drones above and below the horizon, and also successfully hit ground targets.

The system of laser weapons MEHEL US Army is designed for installation on a combat platform. It uses a commercial fiber laser, potentially capable of generating 10 kW power. It is induced by means of a beam control system consisting of a telescopic optical system with an aperture of 10 cm and a stabilized high-precision guidance and tracking system. Capture and tracking of the target is provided by infrared cameras with wide and narrow fields of view and a Ku range radar.

In August, 2014, the company Raytheon and the United States Marine Corps (ILC) began testing the HEL system for installation on small tactical Corps machines to combat low-flying drones and similar targets as part of the Directed Energy On-the-Move Future Naval Capabilities program. Back in 2010, the prototype of the system, in demonstration tests, managed to knock down four drones.


Raytheon's high-energy laser, mounted on an Apache AH-64 attack helicopter, captured and destroyed an unmanned target during tests at the White Sands test site


According to Raytheon, the main technology in such a compact weapon is a planar wave-guide (PWG). “Using one PWG, similar in size and shape to the 50-cm line, high-energy lasers generate sufficient power to effectively defeat small-sized aviation».

In the short term, it is possible to deploy such a platform in the form of a promising ground defense system GBADS FWS (Ground Based Defense, Future Weapon System), developed by the ILC. A radar-induced laser mounted on an armored JLTV (Joint Light Tactical Vehicle) laser can complement the EW system and Stinger missiles.

The German company Rheinmetall has done a lot of work to develop a number of laser weapons systems and operational concepts for ground defense, slow and low-flying targets, intercept unguided missiles, artillery shells and mines, neutralize explosive objects and have scalable non-lethal impact on a number of threats from operational-appropriate range lasers power 10, 20, 20 and 50 kW installed for demonstration purposes on vehicles, including tracked and wheeled armored vehicles and a truck.

The company has put a lot of effort into integrating lasers into its well-known air defense systems, while emphasizing that, at least in the short and medium term, they will rather complement cannons and missiles rather than replace them. One of the key developments of the company Rheinmetall is the combination of rays. This technology allows you to concentrate the energy of several lasers on a single target, which makes it possible for the entire system to focus on the most threatening mortar mine, missile, cruise missile or attack aircraft, and then move on to the next target; these capabilities were demonstrated to the public in 2013. A fully working HEL system can be developed in the next ten years.

Israel also invests heavily in this technology. Rafael Advanced Defense Systems has developed a HEL prototype, called the Iron beam, which uses a 10 kW fiber laser, but expandable to "hundreds of kW" to fight the BLA, as well as short-range missiles and mines. According to the company, the Iron Beam system consists of two laser systems on two different trucks to intercept a single rocket, and it is noted that several rays can be used for larger targets. The message indicates that the system may be ready for 2020 year.

The smaller Drone Dome system is designed to detect and disable small-sized copters by radio frequency jamming; it may also include a laser with a power of 5 kW, capable of shooting down similar targets at ranges up to 2 km.


On the American ship is a demonstration of the laser system Laser Weapon System (LaWS)


Chinese and Russian lasers


China is actively developing mobile systems on trucks and tactical platforms. Chinese companies, including Poly Technologies with their Silent Hunter and Guorong-I, willingly show them at trade shows and upload video tests to the network. For example, a video was shown in which the Guorong-I system burns through a test plate carried by a small quadcopter, possibly from the DJI Phantom line, and then knocks down the drone itself.

It is assumed that China is also working on larger ship systems, possibly installed on the new 055 Tour cruiser.

The Russian military claim that they already have laser weapons in service. Yury Borisov, currently the Deputy Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, stated back in 2016 that these were not experimental samples, but combat weapons.

It is assumed that Russia is developing a number of laser systems and other weapons of directed energy, laser systems for protection against aircraft. Reportedly, it is planned to install a higher-power laser on sixth-generation combat aircraft, which, according to experts, will not be commissioned before the 2030s.

Air applications


Although ships, by their very nature, became the first mobile platforms for installing high-powered laser weapons, since they could take a large mass and provide the necessary amount of electricity, the process of practical penetration of laser systems into the field of tactical aviation has now begun.

In the summer of 2017, the first tests of a fully integrated high-energy laser were carried out, during which a ground target was burned from an Apache helicopter. In a series of test captures carried out by Raytheon and the US Army in cooperation with the command of special operations forces at the White Sands range, the helicopter reportedly hit targets from various heights at different speeds, in different flight modes and at an inclined range of 1,4 km.

In order to provide information on the target, improve situational awareness and control the beam, Raytheon has adapted a version of its MTS optical multispectral Targeting System.

An important part of the test was determining how well the technology withstands external influences, including vibration, jets and rotor dust, in order to take this into account when developing advanced weapons.

Jet aircraft lasers


The US Air Force is exploring the possibility of using HEL technology to protect tactical aircraft from air-to-air or surface-to-air missiles under the Shield program (Self-protect High Energy Laser Demonstrator), in connection with which in In November 2017, the US Air Force Research Laboratory awarded Lockheed Martin a contract for a container system that is to be tested on a jet fighter by 2021. One of the design goals is to assemble a multi-kilowatt fiber laser in a limited available space. The work is focused on three subsystems. The first received the designation STRAFE (SHiELD Turret Research in Aero Effects) and is a beam steering system; the second subsystem LPRD (Laser Pod Research & Development) is a container that will house the laser, power supply and cooling systems; and the third is the LANCE (Laser Advancements for Next-generation Compact Environments) laser installation itself.

British dragonfire


If all goes according to plan, the first tests of Dragonfre, an HEL prototype being developed for the British government by a consortium led by MBDA, which included Oinetiq, Leonardo-Finmeccanica and several British companies, including GKN, Arke, BAE Systems, will be conducted in 2019. and Marshall AOG. The planned demonstration should include a full cycle of tests at land and sea ranges, from capturing the target to its destruction.

The armament system will be based on a scalable fiber laser architecture with coherent beam technology and an appropriate phase adjustment system. According to the company QinetiQ, this technology allows you to create a source of high-precision laser radiation, which can be directed to a moving target and generate a high energy density on it despite atmospheric turbulence, which reduces the time of defeat and increases the range. The scalable architecture of Dragonfre allows you to increase the number of laser channels so that the options created can be configured to deal with a wide variety of circuits and integrate into various sea, land and aerial platforms.


The target drone shows damage to the tail section, caused by a HEL-MD laser. UAVs like this drone turn into a rapidly growing threat and therefore developing weapons to combat them is a priority for air defense.


Protection from light technology


Lasers as weapons have positive and negative sides. The beam moves at the speed of light, so there are no significant difficulties with the flight time that adversely affect the aiming process. If the subsystem of support of the armament complex can be kept on the target, then it can direct the laser beam on it and keep its necessary time. Keeping the beam on the target is very important, because in many cases the system may need some time to heat the target and provide the desired effect. In this case, the target gets a chance to “feel” the attack and use appropriate countermeasures. The atmosphere itself also creates problems, since phenomena that impede the passage of a beam, including water vapor, precipitation, dust, and air itself (for example, such a phenomenon as a haze), have a different absorbing and refracting effect at different wavelengths, adversely affecting the effective the range of the laser and its ability to concentrate energy on the target.

Naturally, the US military is looking for ways to protect their property from lasers and other directed energy weapons. The Research and Development Administration of the Naval Forces implements a large program for countering directed energy weapons. It examines possible countermeasures based on technologies that may be available to combat such threats from 2020 to 2025 a year, including materials and various types of curtains.

Protective materials, for example, may include reflective and ablative or decaying coatings. Destructive coatings, usually based on polymers and metals, are usually used in solid-fuel space engines and return vehicles. In curtains or obstructions, water or smoke is usually used to scatter the laser beam and reduce the amount of energy that has reached the target.

Other countermeasures begin to appear that, by the principle of active jamming, disrupt the operation of the laser system and do not allow it to keep the beam on the target, for example, using lasers on board the protected platform. This direction, according to some information, was handled by Adsys Controls. However, the company is currently describing its Helios system as a “passive system to counter directed energy weapons,” but without explicit mention of lasers. According to Adsys. The Helios system, which is a sensor set mounted on large drones, provides a complete analysis of the incoming beam, including its localization and intensity. “With this information, she passively suppresses the enemy, protecting the machine and its payload.”

Information on countermeasures to laser weapons is carefully guarded, but one thing is clear: a new technological battle has begun between means of influence and countermeasures.
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  1. -7
    21 June 2019 18: 10
    Naturally, the US military is looking for ways to protect their property from lasers and other directed energy weapons. The Research and Development Administration of the Naval Forces implements a large program for countering directed energy weapons. It examines possible countermeasures based on technologies that may be available to combat such threats from 2020 to 2025 a year, including materials and various types of curtains.

    A couple of billion investments and will invent an aerosol. Meanwhile, US debt is 20 trillion, and corporate debt is about 50 trillion.
    1. +5
      21 June 2019 20: 34
      The book "Hyperboloid of Engineer Garin" by Alexei Tolstoy, was re-read in childhood and adolescence, (and an adult had already read it) probably 20 times, no less ... but I never thought that I would live to see a real "hyperboloid" ... " come true ". here's a fantasy.
      1. +5
        21 June 2019 21: 39
        Aleksei Tolstoy even foresaw in it the means of laser power.
        Remember the pyramids? Only there they burned out, and now - supercapacitors
        give the strongest discharge-impulse, feeding the laser. But definitely similar.
        1. +2
          22 June 2019 00: 19
          Well, you gave ... At Tolstoy, the hyperboloid concentrated thermal radiation, not light. And the pyramid was the primary source of thermal energy, not a storage device, like capacitors. And the hyperboloid was not an impulse weapon, it radiated all the time while the fuel was burning ....
          winked
      2. +1
        22 June 2019 01: 31
        Quote: Dead Day
        ... but I never thought that I would live to see a real "hyperboloid" ... "a fairy tale has come true." So much for a fantasy.


        One science fiction writer described the wars of the future. R. Asprin - "Cold Financial Wars".
        Once leading world corporations (TNCs) came to the conclusion that wars cost them too much. And therefore, real hostilities were replaced by dramatizations in which no one died. For some time this worked, but when governments tried to intervene between corporations, the standard armies received a fierce rebuff from PMC TNCs. Further government armies stood aside. And corporations sorted out relationships among themselves, using lasers in conjunction with small arms.
        For finances move starships and pull blasters
    2. +1
      21 June 2019 22: 15
      Quote: NEXUS
      ... In the meantime, US debt 20 trillion, and corporate debt around 50 trillion.

      If you keep 100 $ in a bank, this is your problem; if you keep 100 in a bank of millions of dollars, this is a bank problem! © Paul Getty.
      In other words, US debt is not a disadvantage, deficit, flaw in the US economy. US government debt is an advantage for the United States. Naturally, in the case of sufficient reinforcement, the possibility of focusing the efforts of our luminous democracy on any single Papuan state will be the last to wander and try not to eat American inflation in the form of that same government debt ..
      So, strictly speaking, they almost do not care how much money they need for democratizers and burners, or democratizers, vybliblivateley.
      1. +1
        22 June 2019 01: 46
        wrong quote
        "if you owe the bank 100 bucks that's your problem
        if you owe the bank 100 million it is the bank's problem "

        slightly different meaning isn't it
        :)
        1. 0
          22 June 2019 07: 13
          Quote: kytx
          wrong quote
          "if you owe the bank 100 bucks that's your problem
          if you owe the bank 100 million it is the bank's problem "

          slightly different meaning isn't it
          :)

          I quoted Paul Getty. Who did you quote?
  2. -1
    21 June 2019 18: 46
    I don’t know, guys, maybe I’ve become morally obsolete, but those lasers that are already in service today cannot be put next to lasers from cool films about space. There, the laser detonates the object, and does not set fire to it. And yes, still more pulsed weapons are visible there, and not just lasers. In general, I think that for about 50 years we will still be a war with the good old rifleman, BUT, if there is no technical revolution in the likeness of the late 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century ...
    1. 0
      21 June 2019 20: 36
      Hi soldier
      You can recall the engineer hyperboloid Garin!
      Well, after all, science fiction men looked into the water!
    2. +1
      21 June 2019 20: 40
      Quote: sabakina
      I don’t know, guys, maybe I’ve become morally obsolete, but those lasers that are already in service today cannot be put next to lasers from cool films about space. There, the laser detonates the object, and does not set fire to it.

      nope! ... this "beam weapon" is another aspect of the laser.
      Quote: sabakina
      BUT, if there is no technical revolution in the likeness of the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century ...

      what? but what if? maybe Roswell really? and if ours also have a "flying bowl" with super technologies in their "bins", and is it being studied? winked
    3. 0
      21 June 2019 23: 52
      Here everything is decided by the energy sector. In books and films, lasers have unlimited power. Therefore, enemy ships explode.
      Fiction writers also came up with protective, energy, screens. Let's see if we live to see whether their scientists come up
  3. 0
    21 June 2019 18: 47
    And if I paint a drone, a rocket or a plane in mirror paint - so what? lasers will not be effective then?
    1. +1
      21 June 2019 19: 23
      Lapunevsky - if I hit your car with a pulsed laser with an output pulse power of at least 150 kW, what will be left of your car except this photo? ??
    2. +2
      21 June 2019 19: 25
      Quote: Lapunevsky
      And if I paint a drone, a rocket or a plane in mirror paint - so what? lasers will not be effective then?


      The mirror coating will collapse in the first milliseconds at the point of contact ...
      1. 0
        21 June 2019 21: 42
        Clearly, it means not to ride laughing
      2. KCA
        0
        22 June 2019 07: 52
        How? For optical lasers, the laws of optics ceased to apply? Reflection and refraction of the beam turned off?
        1. 0
          22 June 2019 17: 14
          Mirrors do not reflect 100% of the radiation, non-reflected radiation instantly destroys the mirror layer and truncates
          1. KCA
            0
            23 June 2019 06: 38
            Not 100%, there is no perfect mirror, but the power of what it does not reflect is simply not enough to destroy what is behind the mirror, and not even the mirror, but just a polished stainless steel is almost invulnerable to the laser
            1. 0
              23 June 2019 07: 50
              Polished stainless steel instantly smoky and starts to receive 100% of the radiation
              1. KCA
                0
                23 June 2019 09: 16
                Have you ever seen how industrial laser cutting works? Black metal cuts at a time, stainless steel in no way, and there the distance from the radiation source to the material of centimeters 5
                1. 0
                  23 June 2019 11: 03
                  https://promexcut.ru/lazernaya-rezka/nerzhavejushhaya-stal
                  PRICE FOR LASER CUTTING OF STAINLESS STEEL

                  And they promise fast cutting with a machine only 6 kW
        2. 0
          24 June 2019 15: 14
          Quote: AVM
          The mirror coating will collapse in the first milliseconds at the point of contact ...

          Quote: KCA
          How? For optical lasers, the laws of optics ceased to apply? Reflection and refraction of the beam turned off?

          good If we take into account that at 90 degrees the beam never enters the object almost never, and even the scattering of the beam in the atmosphere even if the atmosphere is transparent, and the fact that the solution to the combat mission is by no means an explicitly staged demonstration .... And, mind you, the test described was carried out at a distance of just over a kilometer. And at such a distance, an ordinary rifleman, albeit of a large caliber, could handle, not to mention even missiles. And that would be a lot cheaper. Combat lasers are only at the very beginning of their development. Perhaps someday they will be effective. hi
    3. +3
      21 June 2019 20: 41
      Quote: Lapunevsky
      And if I paint a drone, a rocket or a plane in mirror paint - so what? lasers will not be effective then?

      and what to paint? CD old sticking ... Yes
  4. -1
    21 June 2019 19: 21
    In general, a laser for combat ships is the most complex, due to the high coefficient of dispersion of a pulse or volley in a continuous mode, such a laser must have a power of at least 210 -250 kW at the output for efficient operation on targets, that is, the power of the energy source supplying the EXCLUSIVELY laser, must be at least 440-490 kW.
    1. +3
      21 June 2019 21: 42
      But on the warships of recent generations there are additional
      electric power specifically for all kinds of lasers, rail guns,
      starting weapons.
      1. 0
        22 June 2019 00: 26
        To the ships? As far as I know, only one ship has excess generator power. Destroyer "Zumwalt", on the other ships there are no extra hundreds of kilowatts for lasers. The ship, although it is large, is rather densely formed in order to carry a generation reserve of half a megawatt of electric power.
        1. +1
          22 June 2019 00: 53
          In English, Darring, too.
          Sumvolts are accused of having a lot of "empty space" in reserve.
          Since 2025, the United States launched a new series of ships that will replace
          Burke. But they will look like Zumvolty.
          1. +1
            22 June 2019 01: 13
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Sumvolts are accused of having a lot of "empty space" in reserve.
            Since 2025, the United States launched a new series of ships that will replace
            Burke. But they will look like Zumvolty.


            They’ll start, let's see. In the meantime, the basic composition of their ships is poorly adapted to the widespread use of laser weapons. It’s possible to damage small UAVs, to make optics blind, but there are no such capacities to damage a rocket or a ship.
            Moreover, do not forget that the laser propagates in a straight line, and the Earth is round. How to attack targets over the horizon? No way. Don't you think that the massive transition of the fleet to laser weapons will lead to the return of large-caliber cannons to ships? Even a pair of guns of not the largest "naval" caliber firing guided shells with a thick-walled metal shell and hitting the enemy's ship thanks to modern fire control systems and reconnaissance, will nullify all the advantages of the "laser" ship.
            1. 0
              22 June 2019 01: 51
              agree
              150kW is generally a penny only a range finder to power
              hundreds of megawatts are needed to destroy a laser (especially at sea)
              in the atmosphere the laser does not steer at a distance
              1. +3
                22 June 2019 08: 48
                Rangefinder - less than 1 kW.
                Laser 2 KW - home kettle - you can dazzle GOS missiles.
                35 kW burns the boat skin. 100 kW burns
                mortar shell in flight.
                1. KCA
                  0
                  22 June 2019 09: 16
                  Do you really think that a pulsed 35KW laser source can even burn the side of a motor boat? And if the boat is made of fiberglass? It does not burn and above 1200 degrees, and a hole with a diameter of less than a centimeter how to stop a motor boat?
            2. +1
              22 June 2019 07: 59
              The laser on the ship is near air defense / missile defense.
              And not only on the ship, on land - either.
              At 5-10 km it is effective.
              Drones, anti-ship missiles, Grads, mortar mines.
              1. KCA
                -1
                22 June 2019 08: 10
                The only combat laser in service is Peresvet, but there is no data on power and purpose at all
                1. +2
                  22 June 2019 08: 46
                  At the UDC, patrolling around Saudi Arabia,
                  For 4 years, a 35 kW laser has been installed. They conduct regular exercises.
                  He burns drones and motor boats attacking the ship.
                  Checked in the fog, and in the excitement of the sea.
                  According to the successful results of these practical tests of the Navy
                  And she decided to equip the ships with lasers.
  5. -2
    21 June 2019 19: 29
    In the article, the author did not consider another problem related to the protection of the equipment of the laser installation itself! The fact is that the impulse goes in all directions, only a focused one has great power, and, great destructive power. And the residual impulse (unfocused) can easily disable its own aiming equipment or laser power control. Therefore, such equipment is in secured containers, and the gun "shoots" automatically, the presence of a person nearby can lead to irreversible consequences in his body. ..
    1. 0
      21 June 2019 21: 44
      Quote: Thrifty
      In the article, the author did not consider another problem related to the protection of the equipment of the laser installation itself! The fact is that the impulse goes in all directions, only a focused one has great power, and, great destructive power. And the residual impulse (unfocused) can easily disable its own aiming equipment or laser power control. Therefore, such equipment is in secured containers, and the gun "shoots" automatically, the presence of a person nearby can lead to irreversible consequences in his body. ..


      What are you talking about? The laser is an EM gun. Nothing there will display the equipment.
  6. 0
    21 June 2019 20: 01
    A laser, of course. A good remedy for drones, but
    - drones can be equipped with lasers that will "interfere" with the guidance / aiming system of combat lasers;
    - a swarm of MINIATURE (difficult target, in itself) drones, and even part of the swarm will "distract", and the rest will attack.
    1. +2
      21 June 2019 21: 45
      "you can put lasers on drones," ///
      ----
      It is impossible. Laser power weighs a lot. And on the drones
      every gram registered.
    2. 0
      21 June 2019 21: 46
      Quote: knn54
      A laser, of course. A good remedy for drones, but
      - drones can be equipped with lasers that will "interfere" with the guidance / aiming system of combat lasers;
      - a swarm of MINIATURE (difficult target, in itself) drones, and even part of the swarm will "distract", and the rest will attack.


      The smaller the drone, the faster it will burn off the laser beam, and the laser can switch between targets almost instantly, or the micro-UAV swarm will fail from the EW facilities, since protection in it on a small drone you will not put.

      And the laser drone will either be huge and expensive, or not at all.
  7. +4
    21 June 2019 20: 19
    Until recently, the role of the laser was for the most part limited ...

    --- range measurement
    --- Illuminated targets for semi-active LGSN
    --- highlighting the area for active nightlights, and determining the range in them
    --- scanning targets and terrain through lidars
    --- communication
    --- use of laser-guided ATGM and air defense systems
    --- optics detection
    --- blinding optics (and people, but only t-s-s-s)
    --- detection of toxic substances
    --- in laser gyroscopes
    --- data entry into remote fuses
    --- determination of height by artillery fuses
    --- determination of the range to the target by non-contact fuses
    --- laser ignition systems of charges in the barrel artillery
    --- determination of bending of the trunk
    --- demining systems
    --- systems of optoelectronic counteraction
    --- target indicators for the arrow
    --- cold sighting
    --- Laser shooting galleries and laser shooting and defeat simulators
    --- security systems

    This is so offhand. Sailors measure depth with laser systems, aviators - wind speed and direction. And also used in landing systems, for non-destructive testing of parts, and so on ....
    I will not say anything about the use in the military industry. Although there is only one laser cutting of what it costs ...

    =================
    And what is it against this background, all these laser "pew-pew-pew"? Yes ugh and grind fellow
    1. +1
      21 June 2019 20: 49
      The laser of course "rules", only for it there are a lot of insurmountable "barriers"! Fog, dust, water, aerosol!
      So sho the depth of the sailors measure the echo sounder! but the range above the water can be given to them when there is no fog.
      1. +1
        21 June 2019 21: 03
        Quote: rocket757
        So sho the depth of the sailors measure the echo sounder!

        So yes ... But the plane is faster than the ship, and you can’t put an echo sounder on it.
        Therefore, laser bathymetry is a very, very popular thing. And such systems are already in service. For example, ALMDS (Airborne Laser Mine Detection System)
        1. 0
          21 June 2019 21: 33
          Systems for CLEAR / CLEAR water, under water, with waves from above the surface downwards, nothing can be measured .... refraction, however. In muddy water the "old-fashioned" sonar.
          1. +1
            21 June 2019 22: 50
            Quote: rocket757
            CLEAN / TRANSPARENT water systems

            System for sea water. And working.
            As well as communication systems, including for submarines.
      2. -2
        21 June 2019 21: 05
        Rocket 757-
        everything is easily solved - disperse fog with bags, beat the dust with water, dry the water, forbid aerosols wassat How quickly did I solve all your problems? Yes
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          21 June 2019 21: 37
          Quote: Thrifty
          Rocket 757-
          everything is easily solved - disperse fog with bags, beat the dust with water, dry the water, forbid aerosols wassat How quickly did I solve all your problems? Yes

          My yes, no laser!
      3. +1
        21 June 2019 21: 11
        By the way, about the water. She is not an obstacle for the laser.
        1. 0
          21 June 2019 21: 34
          Muddy as a stone wall! Accordingly, the cuttlefish, with its "ink bomb", cannot be resisted by a laser.
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        21 June 2019 21: 47
        Quote: rocket757
        The laser of course "rules", only for it there are a lot of insurmountable "barriers"! Fog, dust, water, aerosol!


        They are not insurmountable, well, except for a thick layer of water, but simply reduce the efficiency.
        1. 0
          21 June 2019 21: 53
          Autonomous devices, smaller than the "cruiser", are already limited in pulse power! And then there's the loss of efficiency due to turbidity! I saw how the laser rangefinder "gets stuck" in fog, dust, a very visual illustration.
          1. +1
            21 June 2019 22: 51
            Quote: rocket757
            I saw the laser rangefinder get stuck in the fog

            And I have never met such a person in my entire service.
            1. 0
              21 June 2019 23: 04
              So they didn’t start using it yesterday .... as they are now solving the problems that are reaching out then, this is to the current specialists, if they have solved the previous problems.
              1. +1
                21 June 2019 23: 18
                Quote: rocket757
                So began not to apply yesterday

                Naturally. I worked with both old Soviet and new ones. Up to DAK-2
        2. 0
          22 June 2019 00: 33
          Quote: AVM
          They are not insurmountable, well, except for a thick layer of water, but simply reduce the efficiency.

          Yeah, up to 5 percent. lol
          During tests in 1980, a laser salvo was fired at a target located at a distance of 4 kilometers. The target was hit the first time, but none of those present saw the beam itself and the visible destruction of the target. The hit was detected by a thermal sensor mounted on the target, Beam efficiency was 5%, presumably a significant part of the energy of the beam was absorbed by the evaporation of moisture from the surface of the sea.
    2. 0
      22 June 2019 01: 46
      Quote: Spade
      --- blinding optics (and people, but only t-s-s-s)

      Do we have such a thing? After all, Russia, like almost all countries, is bound by the ban on "inhumane weapons." Although individual anti-sniper systems certainly have a "side effect". And so officially, it seems, only China KAZ for armored vehicles (incidentally, a very interesting idea) with a similar action developed.
      1. +1
        22 June 2019 07: 47
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        Do we have that?

        For example, the Soviet PAPV


        Quote: Blackgrifon
        After all, Russia, like almost all countries, is bound by the ban on "inhumane weapons"

        Everything is actually much more complicated there.

        "It is forbidden to use laser weapons specifically designed for use in hostilities solely or in order to inflict permanent blindness human organs of vision, not using optical instruments, i.e. unprotected organs of vision or organs of vision that have devices for correcting vision."

        That is, if a sniper remains blind ... he is to blame
        1. 0
          22 June 2019 18: 29
          Thanks for clarifying!
    3. KCA
      0
      22 June 2019 08: 17
      Laser cutting has long been not only military, in our former MIREA branch the entire fence is hung with laser-cut plates with the inscription MIREA
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    24 June 2019 14: 17
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Aleksei Tolstoy even foresaw in it the means of laser power.
    Remember the pyramids? Only there they burned out, and now - supercapacitors
    give the strongest discharge-impulse, feeding the laser. But definitely similar.

    against small targets, the laser may be a good option,
    But to bring down the same Apache, you need too powerful a installation.
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    24 June 2019 14: 19
    Quote: AVM
    The laser of course "rules", only for it there are a lot of insurmountable "barriers"!

    the coolest barrier is the skyline.
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      24 June 2019 15: 22
      Quote: yehat
      Quote: AVM
      The laser of course "rules", only for it there are a lot of insurmountable "barriers"!

      the coolest barrier is the skyline.

      If measured from the height of a tower, for example, an armored personnel carrier, then at a distance to the horizon the laser is no longer very efficient. hi
  10. 0
    12 August 2019 20: 21
    An article from the category to talk about beautifully painted and cute gadgets - since not a single TTX, except for an untied power (to the level of destruction) is given.
    By the way, if you chat, the simplest protection against a laser could be a grid of microtubes under water pressure, which (water), due to the destruction of the shell and the grid under it by radiation, would be supplied (as under pressure) to the place of destruction. The supply of a liter of water per second, theoretically, according to the laws of physics, only due to the specific heat of vaporization (2400 kJ / kg), without taking into account additional scattering of the beam by vapors, would completely suppress the "combat" capabilities of the laser with the power supplied to the target of 2400 kW, which means for the current 50 kW supplied to the target (Is this so? Judging by the photo of the clear boundary of the fire on the black stencil, there is much less.) Only 20 grams per second is needed. It's just time to put such protection from a network of tubes with a small reservoir of water under the shell of devices that are not expensive.
    For inexpensive shells and mines - just pour half a glass of water (100 grams ... and then alcohol will work better, you need to test ...) under a slightly modernized shell.
    Hee, for the cheapest motorboats - a small spray fountain directly from the sea water towards the laser.
    And, yes, and not necessarily all over the surface, it’s enough only in critical places.