Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year

Vladimir Zhirinovsky specified his position, on the basis of which he had left the State Duma meeting the day before. According to the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, if Russia had adopted a law on the procedure for granting citizenship under a simplified scheme to those who have at least one of the Russian parents, then the population of the country today would be 160-170 million people.

On the eve, Vladimir Zhirinovsky sharply reacted to the decision of the State Duma of the Russian Federation by a majority vote to reject the aforementioned bill, which had previously been submitted by the Liberal Democratic Party. Zhirinovsky came out from behind the podium and left the meeting room, saying that the deputies made a big mistake.

Zhirinovsky:

Germany invites the Germans home, Israel - the Jews, Poland - the Poles. Only in Russia a similar law could receive a negative opinion of the government and the relevant committee of the State Duma on the development of civil society. We do not limit anyone’s rights with this law. On the contrary, we are expanding the rights of the largest, state-forming people of Russia. And it is monstrous, it is blasphemy to refuse such a law. It is a shame when they say in the Russian parliament: we will not take care of the Russians. And who is killed in Ukraine? Not Russian? And what language there infringe? Not Russian? Any other people of Russia?

Zhirinovsky said that today Russians, who want to return to Russia, are having an exam in Russian, have been forcing Russians to wait for years for a decision on granting citizenship, to prove solvency.

According to Zhirinovsky, “the mockery of the Russian people continues from the 1917 year.”

From the statement of the LDPR leader:

Shame on those who deny millions of Russians the right to return to Russia.

The bill was rejected, as noted in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, in connection with its "discrimination" in relation to other peoples of Russia. At the same time, Zhirinovsky recalled that in the 90s, the Russian Constitution was written under the dictation of "comrades from the West", and the word "Russian" is not in it at all. According to the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, the new law would in no way infringe upon the rights of other nations.

Coming out of the hall, Vladimir Zhirinovsky continued to talk about the "shame" allowed in the State Duma.

Comments

[WILL]

Here we are all laughing at Volfych ... and this time he raised a very serious question! My sincere respect for him!
You can not be scattered - Carriers of the Russian language and culture! Moreover, many were outside of Russia, Living in One Great Country, leaving for Construction, Tselina, etc.

[Aerodrome]

Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year

it seems to me. which is basically the last 20 years ...

[210ox]

Zhirinovsky said absolutely right about citizenship and wrong about 1917 ...

[siberalt]

Oh well. Mom is Russian, and dad is a lawyer. My son is definitely Russian. Complex Zhirik, however.

[axiles100682]

Well, I have a Russian mother, a father half a Pole half a crest. A mother from Kirov brought his father to Kazakhstan from the Crimea. And? Who should I consider myself now? Kazakh or what?

[brr1]

My classmate thought so alone, his father was an Uzbek, and his mother was a Tatar, but his father served in Dushanbe and he was born there. So he sincerely believed that he was Tajik. We were then 14 years old.

[axiles100682]

Well, I don’t get a Kazakh, the race is different. Well, if you don’t specify what nationality you are, then most of the Poles, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Bulbash Chuvash, etc., are considered Russian and they consider themselves Russian.

[brr1]

Quote: axiles100682

Well, I don’t get a Kazakh, the race is different.

I mean white? White power?

[axiles100682]

And you did not know that the Russians have a Europioid race, and the Kazakhs have a Mongoloid race?

[brr1]

Ahhh, like yellow?

[Arh]

Russian will endure everything, shake everything, only then he will give an answer !!!

[axiles100682]

Tell me, yellow, white, black, what’s all this for? Naturally, different races have different skin colors, eye cuts, etc., etc.

[brr1]

It's cool that we're white

[hrych]

If you take the language, then the Uzbek and Tatar are Turkic, and Tajik is Aryan. The very concept of a Turkic nation is very vague and the Turkic world rests exclusively on the language. Because Uighurs, Kazakhs, Bashkirs, etc. having the Turkic language, are representatives of the Mongoloid race. Turks, Azerbaijanis, Turkmens, etc., having a Turkic language, are Caucasoid representatives of races. Uzbeks are a mestizo group between the Caucasian and Mongoloid races. Among modern Uzbeks, the Pamir-Ferghana type of the Caucasian race predominates, with an admixture of Mongoloid elements among the inhabitants of Northern Khorezm. Anthropologically, the majority of Tajiks (especially mountain ones) also belong to the Pamir-Fergana race of the large Caucasian race. Therefore, your classmate has deliberately or intuitively correctly identified himself with the Tajiks. If he abandoned the Turkic language in favor of the Tajik language (apparently owned it while living in Dushanbe), and at the expense of his mother he reduced the admixture of the Mongoloid race. It is anthropological and linguistic. Genetically much more complicated, among Tajiks R1a - 45%, among Uzbeks - 28%, and among Tatars (Kazan) - 21%. Those. there is no way to increase the Aryan share, albeit to reduce the Mongol haplogroup - C from 12% among Uzbeks, because Tatars have two times less. Haplogroup J, that of Tatars, that of Tajiks and Uzbeks is approximately the same. But Tatars have the largest haplogroup N (Finnish) - more than 28%, which among Central Asians is less than 5%. Although all this is hypothetical, because This is the haplogroup of the male Y chromosome. And the Kirghiz, although they carry the Aryan R1a up to 70% and higher, but the mothers determined the anthropological type. But it is clearly visible who the conqueror is.

[Harry.km]

Quote: axiles100682

Who should I consider myself now?

My opinion is that the nationality of parents and relatives is not important ... If you are Russian in spirit, then you are Russian!

[axiles100682]

This is indisputable. Sometimes it’s not at all Russian by nationality, it’s more Russian in spirit and love of Russia than some ethnic Russians. The trouble is that this criterion is very difficult to identify and define in a short time, and it’s impossible to bring some kind of legislative act under this criterion .

[Harry.km]

Quote: axiles100682

under this criterion it is impossible to bring some kind of legislative act.

I absolutely agree with you. For such things, there is ideology and morality ... And in the constitution of the Russian Federation, ideology is prohibited. Well, about the morality of those who must issue laws and set an example of their implementation, we can talk endlessly and all with a minus sign. All that remains is the laws which these very servants of the people are issuing, according to their own principles ... A one-sided medal ... or a one-way street.

[axiles100682]

Therefore, I already wrote in a similar topic, and I do not completely agree with the Zhirinovsky bill. It is necessary to simplify the adoption of Russian citizenship not only to ethnic Russians, but to all representatives of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation.

[ser56]

Quote: axiles100682

not only ethnic Russian, but also to all representatives of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation

if it’s not a secret, but which of the peoples of Russia apart from the Russians is still divided? Or are you the type in general for equality?

[axiles100682]

I can only judge by Kazakhstan. There are still many Chuvash, Mordvinians, Tatars, Bashkirs living here besides the Russians. In addition, many Ukrainians, Poles, Greeks, Germans are only their passports. In fact, they are apart from the Russian language, Russian culture, etc. .d do not know others and connect their future only with Russia.

[ser56]

Quote: axiles100682

Poles, Greeks, Germans

They have their own countries that are actively inviting them ... when Russia proposes to do something like this - a hysteria ...

Quote: axiles100682

link their future only with Russia.

1) how many Germans left Kazakhstan to Germany? to remind?
2) When the Chechen wars were going on, there were few who wished ....

Quote: axiles100682

I can only judge by Kazakhstan

it’s strange, why are we all taught from abroad to live?

[axiles100682]

In general, Poles, Greeks, and partially Germans arrived in Kazakhstan not from these countries, but mainly from the territory of present-day Russia in which they lived for centuries. No hysteria, this had to be done long ago. The first waves of resettlement to Russia’s historical homeland, they went right after the collapse of the union. I have nothing to teach you, only wasting time. I had a conversation with my interlocutor and expressed my point of view.

[ser56]

Quote: axiles100682

I had a conversation with the interlocutor and expressed my point of view.

we read you:

Quote: axiles100682

Need simplify the adoption of Russian citizenship

it is curious if I wrote what needs to be done in Kazakhstan - would this be perceived as great-power chauvinism?

[hrych]

It is very important to know who the paternal grandfather is. What is his nationality, such will be the set of haplogroups of Y chromosomes. If the father’s dad is Polish, then you are Polish, if your grandfather is Ukrainian, then you are Russian. For Russians are Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians. So at least it was thought before the Bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks, of course, did not like the proud name of Velikoross and left the adjective to the entire ethno-linguistic group. They invented a nationality from the name of the outskirts, in order to remove the root of Ross, and left the Belarusians, withdrawing from this group, in order to weaken the unity of the nation. The result is successful, they received from the Russes of anti-Russians who are struggling with the main language and brotherly blood has been shed.

[axiles100682]

This is from the point of view of science. There is still a state of mind. With Poland nothing connects me, I do not feel like a Pole. And science here is powerless

[hrych]

And it’s not a shame to be a Pole, moreover, Poles are not genetically the closest relatives to the Russians, moreover, the cradle of the Aryan haplogroup is Poland and Muscovy, connected by the Belorussian belt (they made it possible to fight back and forth against it) .

And also belonging to the nation still determines the language (why in anti-Russia this is emphasized). We will call you Russian with Polish roots. When the Commonwealth fell, its elite, both military and intellectual, was also divided by the victors, part went to the Russian Empire, part took the Germans. Therefore, the great Poles flashed, but not in Poland. Vernadsky, Chizhevsky, Sikorsky and Tsiolkovsky enriched Russian science, Sakharov also had Polish roots. Even Rokosovsky is our commander, not Polish. And Poland, deprived of the highest castes, is not capable of confronting either the battlefield or moving scientific progress. Its elite is from the lower castes, such as Wojtyła, Tusk, Walesa (their names are actually simple), and therefore the crisis of the genre, with the seeming purity of genetics.

[axiles100682]

I’m never ashamed of my Polish roots. The surname is quite famous and noble. It’s just that there is absolutely no connection with Poland and already since the time of my great-grandfather.

[axiles100682]

And thanks for the comments, I am very competent and interesting in expressing my thoughts. You should write articles on VO.

[Wolverine]

Quote: siberalt

Oh well. Mom is Russian, and dad is a lawyer. My son is definitely Russian. Complex Zhirik, however.

Oleg, I didn’t expect this from you, sarcasm or something else, all the same, Russian is one who feels Russian, speaks the language, carries his culture, defends and, finally, in the spirit of Russian.

[ser56]

Quote: siberalt

My son is definitely Russian.

from the point of view of the Jews - definitely - they have a nationality by mother ...

[K-612-O]

What's wrong then? Lenin sincerely fought against "Great Russian chauvinism", surplus appropriation, dispossession, repression. And what happened to the Russians in 89 in the "national" (even funny) republics, these are trifles. Khrushch who surrendered the Russian Crimea, and the rest of his kooky, MSG betrayed all the people, not only Russian, this is just a mockery.

[venik]

Quote: K-612-O

What's wrong then? Lenin sincerely fought against "Great Russian chauvinism", surplus appropriation, dispossession, repression. And what happened to the Russians in 89 in the "national" (even funny) republics, these are trifles. Khrushch who surrendered the Russian Crimea, and the rest of his kooky, MSG betrayed all the people, not only Russian, this is just a mockery.

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And why did they forget about Bobochka Yeltsin?

[Mestny]

This is which of the Communists repainted in the liberals?
Well, the communists are not former.

[Gardamir]

Well, the communists are not former.

I hope you mean ALL the Communists?

[Gardamir]

surplus appropriation, dispossession, repression.

and what have the Russians to do with it? And the surplus apportionment began even under your Kohl during the years of the first imperialist.

Khrushchev who surrendered the Russian Crimea

Putin passed the Russian Donbass. You upload a video where he says Russia is not for Russian.

[K-612-O]

Kolya is not ours, not mine, maybe yours. And when did it start? I know that there was a decree of the Soviets on the surplus appraisal, and under the tsarist government, before the revolution, we did not introduce cards for food, unlike France and Germany, where they were introduced from the first days of the war. And the Russians here, despite the fact that they died most of all from this and suffered, was robbed and exiled.
And Russia is not for Russians in the national sense, Russian is also an Armenian and a Kazakh and a Tatar and a Bashkir and a Nanaian. Russian is a worldview, culture and self-identification, not a column in a passport, according to your Bolshevik-Trotskyist rules.

[sergo1914]

Quote: K-612-O

I know that there was a decree of the Soviets on surplus appropriation, but under the tsarist government, before the revolution, we did not introduce cards for food

Your knowledge of history is unlimited.

"The surplus appropriation system is traditionally associated with the first years of Soviet power and the extraordinary conditions of the Civil War, but in Russia it appeared under the imperial government long before the Bolsheviks."

Here, in, was.

https://topwar.ru/94706-carskaya-prodrazverstka.html

So, before the revolution, everything is not so simple with you.

[K-612-O]

Just start with the fact that according to these measures, grain was not taken, but bought from peasant farms. Prodarmies simply took the grain without paying a dime.
And I did not speak about unambiguity, but such a state as after the revolution was not even close. And a small point: Siberia and Russian Turkestan did not capture these measures, there the merchants and the state both bought bread and bought.
Another question is if the facts are slightly seasoned with Suslovschina and dogmatism, then of course the picture is different.

[210ox]

Food ration cards were introduced even before the Bolsheviks, under the Provisional Government. Probably because they "worked" effectively .. Ever since RI ...

[AU Ivanov.]

Coupons for food and some other goods, such as soap, were introduced by the Communists in the late 20th century. Probably because they worked effectively.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: AU Ivanov.

Coupons for food and some other goods, such as soap, were introduced by the Communists in the late 20th century. Probably because they worked effectively.

no need to lie ... it was no longer the Communists, but those who helped the Soviet Union collapse.

[AU Ivanov.]

These were the communists. Or is the CPSU Secretary General not a Communist? And the Union was destroyed by the Communists.

[Gardamir]

And the Union was destroyed by the Communists.

[AU Ivanov.]

You have just confirmed my words. Now in power, mainly, either communists or Komsomol functionaries.

[Demon_is_ada]

Andrei, there really were party and Komsomol functionaries, but there were no communists A communist is not a party card, this is the Spirit ... They were already pensioners, real communists and apparently grandiose successes in the national economy weakened them, although they deserved a little simple love, or rather the right to love and loved everyone indiscriminately ...

[AU Ivanov.]

The price of the party that allowed the degeneration of its members is worthless. They started, indeed, for health. But finished for the rest.

[Demon_is_ada]

Andrei, those communists lived exactly as they wanted and created this country and died in it, and the weak remnants do not count. The party is not aliens, it is you or your parents, depending on your age, these individuals are involved Freebie corrupts the spirit, we deserve exactly the government that we deserve ... "According to your faith, you will be rewarded" is a hackneyed phrase, but this is a fact ... Why is it so bad? It will be even worse, I do not know if you are involved in age, but my age took an oath, since everyone was liable for military service ... This thing is cunning, it is not given to Putin, take it higher Have you heard - "and let him punish me ..." If you take into account the practice, then usually up to the seventh generation I know that I will cause a lot of anger against me, but not to admit the facts is a clinic

[Military Builder]

no, now there are opportunists in power, almost everyone in United Russia had previously been in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, they threw out their membership card in 1991, and they will run away from the United Russia if “the wind blows from the other side”. as the proverb says: The strong survive, and the weak perish - don't believe it. Only the cunning ones survive, and the strong ones die second, after the weak ones.

[AU Ivanov.]

Only one conclusion follows from this: the Communist Party is a party of opportunists. One current communist Grudinin is worth what: he changed parties like gloves, even managed to visit EP.

[su25]

And at the beginning of the 21st they introduce cards [credit] - for the purchase of "macaros." How do you like it?

[AU Ivanov.]

But at the time of the Union, there was grace in the shops, it was kindly to remember: gray pasta, sprats in tomato and three-liter jars of juice. Sausage meat? By train and to Leningrad!

[LiSiCyn]

[media = http: //yuotu.be/1SJBcVhfJCE]
I heard this track, about 6 years ago. From tinted 10s with the 95th region on the rooms. In the city of Labinsk, Krasnodar Territory.

[Fayter2017]

You either remove the cross or put on your underpants ...
Putin surrendered the Donbass? Maybe still rents, can't rent?
Did Crimea itself fall?

[Mestny]

Yes, what kind of cross do they have, where from?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: K-612-O

Lenin sincerely fought against "Great Russian chauvinism", surplus appropriation, dispossession, repression.

You read Dostoevsky, how the overwhelming majority of the Russian people lived there, until the 17th, except for the nobility and a small merchant class. "Crime and Punishment" for example

[K-612-O]

Did I say something about the standard of living, or how did they live until 17? And not according to Dostoevsky, but according to historical facts of the standard of living of the average peasant of 1913, the Soviet government achieved only in the mid-70s. But the merchant estate was far from small. What does your remark have to do with it? In Russia, before the revolution, the Great Russians were simply designated and fixed by the state-forming people. And the count nationality did not slip anywhere.

[su25]

No need to fantasize! Materials of the Russian General Staff have already been published, which in 1914, when mobilizing, it turned out that 40% of draftees in the army were the first to taste meat!

[AU Ivanov.]

Not the Great Russian, but the Orthodox faith. Any baptized Uzbek became state-forming. And a Jew-cross could forget about the Pale of Settlement.

[For example]

Quote: Aerodrome

it seems to me. which is basically the last 20 years ...

It seems to you...

Jews, Jews, Jews alone.

Got it. The Russian Duma rejects the offer of a Jew to grant Russian citizenship to any Russian.

The triumph of meanness!

[siberalt]

Yeah. Now all Moscow wipers for loot will begin to enter into fictitious marriage with Russian visiting students and quickly become Russian in a simplified scheme without knowing the language and culture.

[knn54]

-Zhirinovsky forgot to add- and the history of Russia.
-Oleg, women without money (for example, in the Moscow region) marry Tajiks — at least they don’t drink).
And something anecdote of the times of Khrushchev remembered.
The US and USSR leaders argued where they live better.
The President drove across America, and our secretary general for the Baltic states and the Caucasus.
Yankes asks, why, for example, not in the Black Earth region?
But Nikita, I’m not interested in how Negroes live with you ...

[siberalt]

The jokes were correct. But it seems that a lot of Tajiks appeared on the site. And it somehow pleases that they can read Russian.

[Gardamir]

Tajiks, at least they don’t drink)

Is it sarcasm or a statement? Please start to take pictures of drunk Central Asians.

[ak747]

Grass, nasvay, gerych - are they better than vodka? And the Russians began to drink less. Among young people there are many completely non-drinkers

[axiles100682]

Are you so sure that everyone needs to be settled in your Moscow? It’s full of people from Asia and the Caucasus who have no Russian roots at all.

[Alex Justice]

Now all Moscow wipers for loot will begin to enter into a fictitious marriage with Russian visiting students and quickly become Russian according to a simplified scheme

Australia needs to learn. Such numbers do not work here. Strict control and language exam.

[WILL]

Quote: Aerodrome

Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year

it seems to me. which is basically the last 20 years ...

That's for sure! Look at the new citizens of Russia ... Tajiks, Uzbeks, Kirghiz, Armenians and further down the list. I have friends, Russian people. Citizens of Russia - Granny (Russian) citizen of Kazakhstan - could not legalize for five years! Madhouse.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: ANIMAL

The grandmother (Russian) of the citizen of Kazakhstan - five years could not legalize! Madhouse.

and you know that the funniest thing is that I am 90 percent sure that there were not enough documents or were not drawn up correctly, my mother received citizenship in 9 years in 30 months

[WILL]

You are right, She is 1933 g / r, there was a mistake in the Kazakh passport at the place of birth, and they proved that She is She! Appeals and answers - can be published in a separate five-volume edition. No one cared that the children and grandchildren were Russian citizens .... lucky to live in 1991 on the territory of the RSFSR (Tyumen Region) and Grandma was a hundred !!! km - but in Kazakhstan.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: ANIMAL

No one cared that the children and grandchildren were Russian citizens ....

and it doesn’t matter here if the original document is in error, all cases of delays that I know about are based solely on the fault of those who submitted, who prevented them from correcting the documents at the time when the grandmother was still in Kazakhstan ?!

[WILL]

I repeat, She was born in 1933, alas, her health is not good, everywhere (practically) her personal presence is needed, and the error there was in the Status of the settlement, which initially no one even noticed. Who could have suggested that in addition to the Village, in that area there is also a village of the same name.
I often work with archives - just believe me, sometimes it’s easy to get information. Archiproblem!

[Barmaleyka]

it doesn’t matter what year she was born, if the documents are not in order, then even with the law that the Zhirik offers, one thing will be a problem

Quote: ANIMAL

I often work with archives - just believe me, sometimes it’s easy to get information. Archiproblem!

Once again DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE ORDER otherwise you will not receive anything

[WILL]

You are a representative of the FMS - most likely. Those - Perfectly looking for incorrectly placed commas. There is - a fact, documented, She Mother - of Russian Citizens, Russian, Born in Russia ... what by and large difference is the letter P or D (town or village) in the place of birth column ??? She didn’t give out these documents to herself? So to the point of absurdity - you can bring any matter!

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: ANIMAL

You are a representative of the FMS - apparently

no, and not when I worked there

Quote: ANIMAL

There is - a fact, documented, She Mother - of Russian Citizens, Russian, Born in Russia ... what by and large difference is the letter P or D (town or village) in the place of birth column ???

there is no such fact as a document confirming her identity with an error

Quote: ANIMAL

She didn’t give out these documents to herself?

I’ll say harshness now, but don’t be offended, the human indifference was dumbfounded when she received documents with an error. What did she think ?!
right now and slurps a full spoon

[Demon_is_ada]

Quote: Barmaleyka

I’ll say harshness now, but don’t be offended, the human indifference was dumbfounded when she received documents with an error. What did she think ?!
right now and slurps a full spoon

You are somehow one-sided prioritizing What did you get to the semi-literate woman of 30 years of birth ??? And the fact that Russia is the successor of the USSR and all that was blown up to Russia is something like that? Complete legal illiteracy ??? Well, that is, docs did the grandmother write to herself on her knee? And hto gave them away ??? And where is the criminal indifference of state servants? And who should be responsible ??? But what about the registration of citizens in order to combat saboteurs? Definitely shoot

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Demon_is_ada

What did you get to the semi-literate woman of 30 years of birth ???

you can continue to rely on the fact that semi-literacy gives the right to documents with an error

Quote: Demon_is_ada

And the fact that Russia is the successor of the USSR and all that was blown up to Russia is something like that?

So what?!

Quote: Demon_is_ada

that is, dokumenty grandmother wrote to herself on her knee? And hto gave them away ???

Once again, when documents are issued, YOU ARE OBLIGED to check them for errors, but if you did not check, then it is YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS

Quote: Demon_is_ada

And who should be responsible ???

YOU, since you did not check the documents upon receipt

Quote: Demon_is_ada

But what about the registration of citizens in order to combat saboteurs? Definitely shoot

you can write nonsense as much as you like

[Demon_is_ada]

Quote: Barmaleyka

Once again, when documents are issued, YOU ARE OBLIGED to check them for errors, but if you did not check, then it is YOUR PERSONAL PROBLEMS

Something I do not recall an article in the Federal Law, which prescribed an obligation to me to verify official documents of state institutions, certified by official seals Can I quote, the Federal Law number or a reference if you, oh great expert on the law, do not make it difficult, in the studio?
Well, and so for universal education - I am obliged to do what the Federal Law prescribes for me, and the instructions, etc. etc. and your Wishlist are somehow completely indifferent to me ... By the way, do you know Hochma? The law does not forbid me to shoot you , he condemns this, but does not prohibit, and I honor the Letter of the Law

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Demon_is_ada

Something I don’t remember an article in the Federal Law, which prescribed an obligation to check official documents of state institutions, certified by official stamps.

you can not check, the result as they say on the face
ps for freedom of life I received quite a few documents and the issuing authority ALWAYS asked to check the correctness of the filling in, the data is entered by a person, which means it can be wrong.

[Demon_is_ada]

You are replacing and destroying the very concept of RIGHT, on which social society is built on the main part of the planet, you knowing or not knowing destroy the foundations of statehood in its essence. And any respectable and law-abiding Citizen has an obligation to ensure that the result is on the face of the perpetrator, since the correctness and reliability of the data entered is the responsibility of civil servants and the society pays their salaries, among other things. Thanks to people like you, we have what we have, that the middle ground between the primitive system and colonialism and do not dream of some kind of rule of law, it will not be Because you are

[Barmaleyka]

I’m wondering when you buy a thing in a store, do you watch it or not ?!

[Demon_is_ada]

So here you are ... reindeer! ... Hello, typical consumer FSE tryndets abkakalypse in all its glory, but I stupid did not believe ... "And the number of the Beast will be inscribed on the forehead and hand, and only they will buy and sell" (well, not word for word, but the same message)

[Barmaleyka]

Hedgehogs pricked, cried, but continued to eat a cactus
tailwind you, your hard way on a rake

[Barmaleyka]

Yes, at least a hundred minuses, I just think that minusers, unlike me, did not move to permanent residence in the Russian Federation and did not receive citizenship documents

[Humpty]

Quote: ANIMAL

Madhouse.

Quote: ANIMAL

there was a mistake in the Kazakh passport

I live all the way in the former Frunze, out of five passports, starting with the Soviet one, which were issued to me, there are no mistakes in one - in the current one. My mother's father was Russian from Moscow, her mother was from Gorlovka, Russian, she was inscribed as Ukrainian. In the birth certificate of the mother, the Kirghiz entered the nationality - "Orthodox". Give advice on where to go .

[WILL]

Yeah .... as far as I remember (this is the situation of My friends) - you need to start building the chain from the moment and place of birth, that is, write to the archives where you were born. In the evening I’ll dial a Friend, I’ll clarify what and how, what I’ll find out, and I’ll write in PM.

[Humpty]

Quote: ANIMAL

it is necessary to start building the chain from the moment and place of birth, that is, write to the archives where she was born.

With a hippo it's easier to talk. Our women And so many times already lost the database. In particular, when I changed my passports about 3 years ago, it turned out that I was not! I don’t exist in nature, but I pay taxes! It’s good that there is still a draft board, I’m not lost there. While I was running around the home administration, the military registration and enlistment office, looking at the number of people with the same problems, I realized that the database was once again lost. And this is the so-called the capital .

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Humpty

In the birth certificate of the mother, the Kirghiz entered the nationality - "Orthodox". Give advice on where to go

uh, mother of what year of birth?

[Humpty]

Quote: Barmaleyka

mother of what year of birth?

48th.

[Barmaleyka]

then forgive you mildly lie

[Barmaleyka]

well, yes, Mr. Humpty lied and put a cute minus, NO IN THE CHILD BIRTH CERTIFICATE OF 1948. The columns are the nationality of the child, there are columns of the nationalities of the parents, but even in 48 they could put the nationality Orthodox

that is how ridiculous rumors are created.
I was born and lived in Kazakhstan for almost 40 years, so I don’t have to hang noodles for me, my problems are higher than the roof, but why come up with outright stupid things

[Barmaleyka]

it would be ridiculous to deny the facts very well in the investigation of a downed Boeing

there wasn’t a nationality column for the child in the birth certificate, which means that he wrote that his mother has CoR nationality is Orthodox, LIES

[Humpty]

Quote: Barmaleyka

it would be ridiculous to deny the facts very well in the investigation of a downed Boeing

They won’t take them there, and after all the British, Canadians conducted independent examinations a couple of times, I’ll tell you that in the West there is probably an epidemic everywhere, something like a bad disease. When conducting examinations, completely ignore the source data.

[Humpty]

Quote: Barmaleyka

Well, Mr. Humpty lied and put a minus cute

The copy you provided only says that the form of the birth certificate in different republics of IMHO could have slight differences. They didn’t fool about the incident with the mother’s birth certificate in the Russian consulate, in the Russian passport. By the way, we have kept the column on nationality.

Quote: Barmaleyka

nationality put Orthodox could not

Dear (sometimes) naive and conceited Vladimir, MOGLI, still couldn’t do that. About a month ago, observations were sent for review, about the same level as people wrote a non-existent nationality, only not passportists, and people engaged in simple but still scientific activities took them for scientific work from the nearest village, because under an agreement imposed 80 percent of employees should be taken by the government from the nearest shepherds. The density of the substance was measured (the method is not indicated), it was ... 0,46 cm2 / m3.
Less is not from me, I'm not touchy.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Humpty

then the form of a birth certificate in different republics of IMHO could have slight differences

you are right, a second text in the republican language was added, this was the ONLY difference

Quote: Humpty

Dear (sometimes) naive Vladimir, COULD, couldn’t have such a thing

I lost my naivety in the 10th grade, for a similar naivety in 48 you could grab 58

once again there was no graph of the nationality of the child, by the way, but what is the problem of scanning my mother’s certificate

[Humpty]

Quote: Barmaleyka

I lost my naivety in the 10th grade, for a similar naivety in 48 you could grab 58

I still made a mistake in some ways, there was a time, I called back, I double-checked everything. I clarify. In the birth certificate of the mother, the nationality of her mother, my grandmother is written - Ukrainian, father (my grandfather) - Orthodox, mother - Russian. In the Jalabad region, nevertheless, in the 48th year they wrote the nationality of both parents and the child, at least as much as they could write, they wrote.

[Glory1974]

at 90 percent I’m sure that there were not enough documents or were drawn up incorrectly,

I on the daughter of 2001 of a year of birth could not receive an insert that she is a citizen of the Russian Federation. I have a passport, my wife has both Russian. One caveat: on February 1 of 1992 of the year I served in the territory of the Union Republic. On this basis, failure!
These are the laws.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

I have a passport, my wife has both Russian. One caveat: on February 1, 1992, I served in the territory of the Union Republic

at the time of the birth of the child, what citizenship did you have and where was your daughter born?

[Glory1974]

at the time of the birth of the child, what citizenship did you have and where was your daughter born?

At that moment I had a passport of the Russian Federation, my wife had one too, the child was born in Russia, they issued a birth certificate without problems, where it says both father and mother are citizens of the Russian Federation.

[Barmaleyka]

then it is nonsense if you are a citizen, a wife is a citizen and childbirth in the Russian Federation, well, respectively, a birth certificate, or you do not agree everything (sorry, but this happens), or you "liked" the aunts in the registry office

[Glory1974]

or you "liked" the aunts in the registry office

The registry office has nothing to do with it. The birth certificate in the registry office was issued without problems.
Problems with the Citizenship Law. It says that those who were on the territory of the Russian Federation before February 1, 1992 are automatically considered citizens of the Russian Federation. All the rest must obtain citizenship. Therefore, the bodies of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the migration service, the ovir, etc. (they answered at different times), they demand proof that you are a citizen. And the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation is not a proof (probably because it can be fake, I have no other explanation). Moreover, the rules and methods for obtaining citizenship were developed by different departments at different times, therefore, depending on the time period, they are also different.
At first glance, everything is fine, but as you dig, it turns out that it’s not very.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

All other citizenship must be obtained.

Once again, at the time of your daughter’s birth, were you a citizen of the Russian Federation ?!
in '92 you served where, in whose capacity and when did you receive the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation?

[Glory1974]

in 92, I was a cadet at a military school; I received a Russian passport in 95, when I came to serve and registered.
the daughters did not give an insert in the birth certificate, that she was a citizen of the Russian Federation. Without this insert, it was impossible to cross the border (go on vacation home), because the road passed from the European part of Russia to Siberia via the Petropavlovsk station of independent Kazakhstan

[Barmaleyka]

and daughter when she was born

[Glory1974]

in 2001 year. I wrote at the very beginning.

[Barmaleyka]

then it’s either stupidity, or you crushed someone’s corn

[Glory1974]

then it's either stupid or

So I explain to you that this is such a law. Therefore, I started correspondence.
The actions of one official can be called stupid. But they acted in accordance with the letter of the law.
And I'm not the only one. This is all massive.
I can tell you how my brothers accepted citizenship, or how an officer, a native of Kazakhstan, who also had a passport, was fired from the army, but could not prove the fact of obtaining citizenship.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

So I explain to you that this is such a law.

name and number of law ?!
either you don’t understand something, or you excuse me the picturesque noodles
if you are a citizen of the Russian Federation, wife is a citizen of the Russian Federation Your daughter was born in the territory of the Russian Federation, she is also a citizen of the Russian Federation
if your passport is invalidated, this is another question, but if everything is as YOU describe it is not the law, but the crap of a particular official and this is decided at once

[Glory1974]

I referred to the law several times. read above. This is the law about which the cheese is boron. The official has nothing to do with it. Why is the passport invalid? I still go with him.

Problems with the Citizenship Law. It says that those who were on the territory of the Russian Federation before February 1, 1992 are automatically considered citizens of the Russian Federation. All the rest must obtain citizenship.

Read carefully.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

I referred to the law several times. read above.

excuse me, but you have written so much, and far from everything on the topic

Problems with the Citizenship Law. It says that those who were on the territory of the Russian Federation before February 1, 1992 are automatically considered citizens of the Russian Federation. Everyone else must obtain citizenship

what does this have to do with your problem if you were a citizen of the Russian Federation for 2001
either you forgive me, you don’t agree on something, or I'm sorry, they’re driving your ears, and you’re glad to try
Once again, if dad is a citizen of the Russian Federation, mother is a citizen of the Russian Federation, the child was born on the territory of the Russian Federation and there are all the relevant documents from the hospital, then what were you or not here under 92 from the territory of the Russian Federation? !!!!
it’s very strange to hear such babble from an officer

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

Read carefully.

I’m scared from the fact that we have so illiterate officers that any bureaucrat can build
You yourself read the law according to which you spread rot ?!
Federal Law of 31.05.2002 N 62-FZ
Article 12. Acquisition of citizenship of the Russian Federation by birth
1. A child acquires the citizenship of the Russian Federation by birth if, on the child’s birthday:
...
at) one of his parents has citizenship of the Russian Federationand the other parent is a foreign citizen, provided that the child was born in the territory of the Russian Federation or if otherwise he becomes a stateless person;

even assuming that your citizenship was in doubt, even though you had a valid passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation (in your words)
it doesn’t affect the child’s citizenship if your wife was a citizen of the Russian Federation, and your daughter was born on the territory of the Russian Federation

I’ll repeat again, either you don’t agree on something, you’re so illiterate that you were chased through offices

[Glory1974]

even assuming that your citizenship was in doubt, even though you had a valid passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation (in your words)
it doesn’t affect the child’s citizenship if your wife was a citizen of the Russian Federation, and your daughter was born on the territory of the Russian Federation

From the point of view of common sense it is. In terms of legislation, no.
I am not the only case. It was a mass order. Therefore, leave your words about bureaucrats and illiteracy to yourself.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

From the point of view of common sense it is. In terms of legislation, no.

Once again, read the LAW, I’m not talking about common sense, but about the letter of the law

Quote: glory1974

Therefore, leave your words about bureaucrats and illiteracy to yourself.

and about legal illiteracy, this is just for you
if everything as you say, then the question is solved ONCE, the appeal is written in TWO copies and endorsed, within two weeks you MUST give a reasonable answer in connection with which there was a refusal, but as a rule there are no refusals after such an appeal

Quote: glory1974

I am not the only case. It was in droves.

because in droves the people are illiterate

[Glory1974]

Once again, read the LAW, I’m not talking about common sense, but the letter about the law

I have experienced our laws in my own skin. And a couple of days ago, you had no idea about the things that we are talking about. But be sure to write, which you have no idea about.
This is what distinguishes a couch expert analyst from a true expert.

then the question is solved ONCE, the appeal is written in TWO copies and endorsed, within two weeks you MUST give a reasoned answer in connection with which there was a refusal, but as a rule there are no refusals after such an appeal

I explained to you several times why they refuse, but you still do not understand

because in droves the people are illiterate

Well, yes, our people are stupid. You probably think of yourself as your nobility or lordship. Although most likely from Mars arrived ,

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

I have experienced our laws in my own skin.

So what?!!!
the mass of people is afraid to argue with the gayts, and the mass overpays management companies for their illiteracy

Quote: glory1974

And a couple of days ago, you had no idea about the things that we are talking about. But be sure to write, which you have no idea about.

dear, I'm not just in the subject, I went through all this, getting documents, to leave the Republic of Kazakhstan, to enter the Russian Federation, citizenship, all medical certificates, etc. and I never paid in one place on the side, just read the laws, was not afraid to call the FMS of the Russian Federation from Kazakhstan for clarification, collected all the certificates and therefore there were no problems

Quote: glory1974

I explained to you several times why they refuse, but you still do not understand

once again under the law YOU referred to - your daughter is a citizen of the Russian Federation, regardless of whether or not there were doubts about YOUR citizenship, unless there were doubts about the citizenship of the mother, but you didn’t write anything about it

Quote: glory1974

Well, yes, our people are stupid.

judging by your problem you're right

Quote: glory1974

You probably think of yourself as your nobility or lordship.

what's this for ?!

Quote: glory1974

Although most likely they arrived from Mars,

born in Ala-Ata, lived there 38 years after, in 09, moved to the Russian Federation
before you go, I found out everything, read the laws on citizenship, etc., bought a house, looked back and forth twice, when I arrived I finally registered at once in my house, I even had no problems at customs, if I hadn’t cleared everything the driver who arrived on weekends would not pay for TSW

just before you whine and blame everyone and all think where you screwed up

[Glory1974]

I'm glad that you are well with citizenship. I am glad that you were not required to pay customs duty for the container with personal belongings, that you did not have to pay bribes, I am glad that you are very smart and business. It’s necessary to move you to the State Duma, otherwise they are sitting there, discussing proposals for the citizenship law, not suspecting that it is enough to study it and all problems will be resolved. Well, stupid people, what to take from them. And by the way, you’re only lucky . Some people you got illiterate.
But I just can’t understand. Do you have so much donor? So, without understanding the meaning of the problem, we decided what is smarter than everyone? Is it enough to google, and all the questions disappear by themselves?
It seems that you are 18-20 years old and that so far you have not encountered a single problem in life.

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

So, without understanding the meaning of the problem, we decided what is smarter than everyone?

once again, there are NO problems, you yourself have come up with a problem, based on those introductory which you called

Quote: glory1974

Is it enough to google, and all the questions disappear by themselves?

it’s enough to know the laws, and not like you, to refer to the law and declare that they are bad, never having read them

Quote: glory1974

It is necessary to move you to the State Duma, otherwise they are sitting there, discussing proposals for the law on citizenship, not suspecting that it is enough to study it and all problems will be solved.

our problem is that people are clever not knowing the essence, it's me about you.
in order to obtain citizenship in the year 8, it took half a year, for certain categories of citizens THREE MONTHS
90% of problems in obtaining citizenship is the carelessness of the recipients themselves, the lack of documents, incorrectly executed documents, etc.

Quote: glory1974

Well stupid people, what to take from them

I’m scared that having received epaulettes a person remains not smart

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: glory1974

And the passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation is not proof

a question arises to you that your daughter wasn’t given out?

[bayard]

Quote: Aerodrome

Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year
it seems to me. which is basically the last 20 years ...

That is, under Yeltsin, we simply had grace? Paradise for Russians? And the property of the People (the so-called state), too, probably then went to the Russians? And the lawlessness of Caucasians in our cities in those years, then we dreamed? And Soros’s history books in our schools didn’t appear then?
You definitely lived in Russia in those years?
In the past 20 years, just a little bit of a mistake. But the Trotskyists are again taking revenge - especially since last year, their coven simply goes off scale.

Enemies of the People - you can’t say more precisely, a very capacious wording.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Aerodrome

Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year
it seems to me. which is basically the last 20 years ...

Since 1985, when Gorbachev introduced Prohibition. The point, of course, is not this law, but the starting point ... so it’s 35 years for extreme mockery.

[ser56]

Quote: Aerodrome

last 20 years ...

Seriously? I recommend re-reading the article of the VIL "On the national pride of the Great Russians" and think about why the Bolsheviks created "republics" on the Russian lands, which never had statehood such as Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan, etc.

[Civil]

Volfych - not in the eyebrow, but in the eye. I vehemently agree with him, moreover, of all indigenous peoples, including Ukrainians, Belarusians, Tatars, Bashkirs ...

[universe1]

Only the wretched laugh at him.

[bessmertniy]

The correct bill. It's just that the thought is not thinking about it in the wrong place.

[depressant]

Vladimir Volfovich is a provocateur, and the State Duma is right this time. After all, how was the question to be posed? Each person with at least one parent belonging to one of the nations, nationalities or nationalities of Russia has the right to obtain citizenship in a simplified manner. It is clear that there are no millions of Yakuts stuck in Georgia or Armenia, and if there were any, then only a few. And those of them who wanted Russian citizenship got it lightly. For example, my friend, who is in the same situation as me (at the same time, we came from the same Caucasian city and grew up on the same street, graduated from the same school), whose deceased mother --- Mordovia, received Russian citizenship in Mordovia at one time . For a minute, for a week !!! Back in the 94th !!! No bribe !!! For then we were both beggars. But her mother is a Mordovian, mind you, dead, and the acquaintance in Mordovia did not have any Mordovian relatives. And my family and I were beaten from everywhere, chased with the police from everywhere ... It turns out that the Mordovians do not abandon their own. And Russian Russians - yes. It turns out that this is the installation of Yeltsin, which Putin has become the heir to and is putting it into practice. It turns out that Zhirinovsky, supposedly a Russian patriot, presented the Duma with a law in a form in which the Duma would obviously have to reject it. And since Zhirinovsky always stated that the LDPR is on the side of any president and the current government, it turns out that he proposed the provocative wording of the law with the submission of the hereditary Russophobe Putin.
Only in the version that I propose will the law on citizenship be the law on Russians. This is exactly the law I was waiting for. I didn’t wait.
Little of! There are tens of thousands of Russian people who fled to Russia back in '92, but who either lost their documents or papers that they specially designed incorrectly so as not to pretend for rented housing. These people live quietly, they hide their misfortune from everyone, their life is full of hopelessness, longing, old age is approaching them in alien conditions, when they can no longer work and pay for rented housing. Deep, terrible, indistinguishable depression! Refugees forever! In your ethnic homeland! For which their ancestors shed blood and laid their lives ...
Previously, they were driven away by the soulless OVIR, but now they aren’t! - the police do not drive away. Dare to approach her with the timid question of citizenship, she throws him in jail! Thousands of them behind bars! ...
Meanness ... This is called meanness and betrayal of the Russian people by Russophobe Putin. Conscious, well-posed meanness ...
Putin! No matter how much you Russians hate us, I demand a correctly formulated law on citizenship! This is legal according to all human standards - moral, ethical, divine - our Russian law!
Little of! I demand in a sharp form the Decree on the amnesty of Russian refugees who have partially lost their documents and with incorrectly executed documents.
Only in this case can you be taken seriously. But no, you’ll be damned like Gorbachev and other imperious husks. Not for you, it will respond to your descendants, no matter how many billions of rubles they have or what you have there and will be passed on to them by inheritance in currency and foreign shares. And no matter how many parades you baptize your forehead, life - it takes revenge ... Because the devil always walks next to the traitors.

[The popuas]

Scha zaminusut, do not like to face the truth here, live like ostriches head in the sand

[depressant]

As you can see, Popuas, you were right.

[tracer]

It’s probably good to read you before suicide. You are a direct talent.
And often do you say something to Putin? I was told that yesterday, an old Putin grandfather began to call on a slipper for another day. This is the most reliable connection from the one that was not selected. Well, in general, if you were not so depressive about the Russians, I would agree with you.

[Harry.km]

Quote: Popuas

they don’t like to face the truth here, they live like ostriches head in the sand

Quite true, but it pleases that IN it is you will instill such a small island in the ocean of information and social resources. But even here, a real understanding of the situation in the country is increasingly evident. Take a look at the news thread about the president’s press conference. There is practically no positive comment on the event. And there are no kremlebots, because it is useless.

[The popuas]

Looked yes really no just for the word cre ... from, I had four accounts banned before the March 14 elections in a week ..

[Harry.km]

They gave me a warning for quoting the president’s words))) Just after the election, 4 of my friends left this site, 1 took an active part in the discussions, and the 3rd just read, I don’t even know if they were registered here or not. But they left precisely because the site has changed. Military affairs are not discussed, but everything is slipping to the level, everything is bad with them, and everything is good with us, but America is bothering us.

[The popuas]

Me for a quote from Lavrov ... .... they are strange, these ,, potreota ,,

[WILL]

You carefully read what Zhirinovsky said. He was not talking about the Peoples of Russia, He was talking about Russians! "We are expanding the Rights of the Largest State-Forming People of Russia .... SHAME on those who deny millions of Russians the right to return to Russia" direct speech.

[depressant]

St. John's wort, this is exactly the case when the devil is in the details. Well, yes - we are the largest nation and in fact state-forming. But to emphasize this fact in the context of the requirement to provide simplified citizenship only to Russians, and it looks like this, leads to interethnic tension in Russia itself. Even if there is not a single Yakut abroad trying to obtain Russian citizenship, all Russian Yakuts will be indignant. Why is it only for Russians? So what, what are they, Russians, state-building? And we, the Yakuts, then the third grade? Are we not forming Russia? And here, after listening to Zhirinovsky, the Yakuts can think for the first time, if, of course, they have not thought about it yet, and what significance do they, the Yakuts, have for Russia. And whether they occupy a worthy place in it. And what will be the result of their thoughts? Ah, we are not state-forming? Well, let's become them! On its national territory ...
If Zhirinovsky demanded a simplified grant of citizenship for all people whose ethnic homeland is Russia, I would be "for" with both hands. And in the form he proposed, the law is a way to arouse hostility towards Russians on the part of Russian non-Russians.

[WILL]

Excuse me, but your words “I demand, in a sharp form, the Decree on the amnesty of Russian refugees ...” how then to understand? Do not flirt with the definition of nationality and citizenship. And then you started for health and finished for peace. Actually - it is difficult to understand your idea, hence the cons.

[depressant]

St. John's wort, first of all, you yourself carefully read the article IN. And then you will see that Wolfovich raised the question in a provocative manner. Secondly, I am so upset, because the question concerns my family directly, that it is difficult to think logically, with a cold head, tears are filling my eyes. All to the devil! I will not say anything more. It hurts so much, no strength.

[WILL]

Lyudmila, Everything Passes - and This, Too! (S) I hope you - Everything will work out, do not waste your nerves in vain and take care of yourself!

[The popuas]

Muddy lady, two conflicting comments , or different people write from the same nickname

[Piramidon]

Quote: depressant

Each person with at least one parent belonging to one of the nations, nationalities or nationalities of Russia has the right to obtain citizenship in a simplified manner.

Is there an official list of Russian nationalities? Do they include the numerous citizens of Russia of German, Chinese, Korean, Armenian, Kazakh ... and many other nationalities who have their own national state?

[depressant]

Piramidon, my dear, all of you have their own ethnic homeland. Let them ask for citizenship there. But if a person under 92 was born on the territory of the RSFSR, give citizenship definitely! According to the birth certificate. Now those forms are not, can not be faked! We, the Russians, try whenever possible not to give it anywhere. Let him try Russian, in whose passport the summer residence of the 91st year is technically redirected to the 94th year --- easy, isn't it? --- And yes, those who received this passport in Abkhazia will try to obtain citizenship in Russia. He will be declared a citizen of Georgia, which, in turn, will deny citizenship because the Georgian Ministry of Internal Affairs has no ties with the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Abkhazia, and you will never see confirmation that you were issued a passport. And without a Georgian passport, you will not get Russian citizenship. Here is a carousel for the rest of a person’s life. It’s useless to ask the Presidential Administration for help. Get down. Lawyers do not undertake any money. The life of a Russian person is completely crossed out. And at least drunkards or some kind of bummers. And do not worry about Armenians, Kazakhs, Koreans, Chinese and others - diasporas can support. Russians have no diasporas. Nowhere.

[Gardamir]

Vladimir Volfovich - provocateur,

You are right, as always. Notice licked the supreme, blaming the Soviet government for everything, but here he has already received the title of patriot for his provocation.

[Glory1974]

there are no millions of Yakuts stuck in Georgia or Armenia, and if there were any, then only a few. And those of them who wanted Russian citizenship got it lightly.

Moreover. I know many Kyrgyz who received Russian citizenship. At first they even took Russian names, but now they don’t bother with this.
But Zhirinovsky is not a provocateur. The fact is that anyone can get citizenship easily, but not Russian. What am I a witness and a direct participant in. And in this regard Zhirik is right. Do not be shy that we are calling Russians home from around the world.

[senima56]

Who is "laughing"? Fools! We must listen and hear what V.V. Zhirinovsky. It turns out that he worries about the Russians the most! The rest only speak with their tongues and give promises! We are ready to grant citizenship to any non-Russian in the first place! And Russians by blood, who were sent to the union republics during the Soviet era after institutes and technical schools, now have to prove that they are Russian! Marasmus! Nonsense! Shame!
Vladimir Volfovich - bravo!

[2306]

[quote = ANCHORAL] Here we are all laughing at Volfych ... and this time he -
And not only this time. Much more often ..

[Harry.km]

Quote: ANIMAL

Here we are all laughing at Volfych ...

The VVZh demarche is very interesting, either it knows something, or even such a state policy towards the Russian people already got it.

[Uncle lee]

about the "shame" admitted in the State Duma.

The entire State Duma, with its laws, is a complete disgrace!

[kepmor]

and even more disgrace to those "patriots" who thoughtlessly and meekly voted for one ...

[rayruav]

the economy of the pipe does not need so many people, so only service staff need

[Gray brother]

Quote: rayruav

the economy of the pipe does not need so many people, so only service staff need

In this case, it would make sense to not give citizenship to anyone at all, so that the natural decline in the population is not compensated by those entering the country for permanent residence.
I suspect that you wrote nonsense.

[lwxx]

Well done Volfovich! PEDROsy traitors! Obtaining a Russian passport is a well-established business. Who will agree to lose such money for free?

[samarin1969]

The proposal for citizenship is fair and necessary. It is a pity that it comes from such political figures as Zhirinovsky.

[210ox]

Yes, the figure is ambiguous. However, note that the things he says come true ... Fifteen years later ..

[samarin1969]

Quote: 210ox

Yes, the figure is ambiguous. However, note that the things he says come true ... Fifteen years later ..

It's a pity, not everything fits together. In the "province" the former Soviet republics are not accepted. And we are waiting for the Russian train "Rostov-Odessa".

[siberalt]

Obtaining a Russian passport is not prohibited, but the article is about a simplified scheme. In the near abroad of Russian families, millions are former citizens of the USSR, but this scheme does not apply to them. That is the question. And Zhirik always in front of the horse rides for PR. But for some reason, his Duma faction did not vote against the cannibalistic pension reform.

[ak747]

EP has a majority, so the votes of the Communist Party, LDPR and SR did not matter.

[anjey]

On the contrary, we are expanding the rights of the largest, state-forming people of Russia. And this is monstrous, this blasphemy to refuse such a law. It is a shame when they say in the Russian parliament: we will not care about the Russians. And who is being killed in Ukraine? Not Russian? And what language are infringed there? Not Russian? Some other people of Russia?

Zhirik cut the truth to the womb, what percentage of Russians in the government, in the Duma, in big business is interesting ??? who are our hidden Russophobes ??? The situation is ambiguous for an international state, Russians have always been the core and connecting link of all peoples, quiet nationalism is harmful to a country, there is no good, binding ideology, and Salvage spoils and eats away people's self-determination, erases the verge of equality, singles out those who got closer to the big feeding trough ...

[Valery Valery]

Zhirik is right!

[Dmitry Potapov]

We thought our enemy is the VRU, but our GEDE is even worse, there are more Russians less than Russians, anyway they have a good life, in general I propose to exclude the expression "people's deputy" from everyday life because. they (the deputies) have nothing of the people left, there are just ghouls who have gotten too hungry (with rare small exceptions)

[rocket757]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

I propose to exclude the expression "people's deputy" from everyday life

They are also called "servants of the people" ... that's a joke!

[knn54]

-Victor: here's a joke.
A trick in another - "servants" are folk, but better "owners" live.
And it's time to think about "IMPORT SUBSTITUTION" in DUMA as well.

[rocket757]

Welcome
The fact that we, as winners, often live worse than the defeated, is not the first time for us!
That's just the term IMPORT SUBSTITUTION, in this particular case, cuts the ear .... because it has a specific meaning. The boom is to bear in mind more appropriate - to drive them from there, with a "nasty broom", because their activities are harmful to the people of OUR country. And so Schaub did not sew on soap, but specifically with a positive result.
So we get to the main question - how to do it? Whom to replace? .... I remembered the Soviet film, "Deputy of the Baltic" !!! a good example to follow! And we will find Professors Polezhaevs !!!

[depressant]

Here I read the forum and see that my colleagues do not understand the essence of the problem.
1. Putin desperately needs a fifth Russian column both in the former republics of the USSR and in other foreign countries. For the expansion and consolidation of the "Russian world", and in fact - their personal influence. To be more precise, expanding the area of ​​its own greatness, its international policy. Despite the fact that he does not hide his national, let's say, non-preference Russophobe. It's funny, isn't it?
But the Russians ceased to be the 5th column in the union republics in the 56th year after Khrushchev's law on the liquidation of Stalin's cooperatives, which immediately deprived the republics of their usual way of life and dramatically worsened the financial situation of many. And if in the RSFSR they hated only Khrushchev, then in other union republics they hated not only Khrushchev, but also the Russians as people of the same nation with him, as carriers of the ideas of supposedly built socialism who agreed with him. Especially in the southern republics. After all, handicraft and private trade were a national way of life in them, and after Khrushchev's departure, pressure on Russians in the southern republics became discriminatory, gradually turning into a criminal character, and whoever could, already fled to the territory of the RSFSR. The rest had to endure and get used to the position of second-class people who did not have and could not have a voice in local politics. And the Russian second secretaries of the local Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union were just a decorative element, quickly decomposed by corruption. Further, the position of Russians in the republics only worsened. The Russians who grew up in these territories were taught from childhood not to protrude and not to strain the locals - otherwise you will not survive! And these quiet, constantly in a state of survival, worried about their own safety, Putin wants to make the fifth column in the "former"?!? President Putin, wake up! You don't know life! You will not have a fifth column ...
2. And Putin does not want to allow these quiet and so on people into Russia. It would seem what an obedient and, most importantly, grateful electorate! This is how I started up just a few years ago. But no. Because, and Putin understands this very well, this "grateful electorate", feeling itself a full-fledged master of Russia, will become to death for its integrity as for the long-awaited, acquired homeland with such difficulty. Just as I stand for the indivisibility of Russia. Does Putin need it? They openly want to divide Russia, but at the moment they are not divided only because there is a struggle for pieces of territory between “Putin's”, “Medvedev's”, “Kadyrov's” and others, not really knowing how to resolve this issue without bloody wars. And here we are - with our howl. Therefore, Putin doesn’t need those who are additionally howling about the integrity of Russia in the form of “aliens”.

[K-612-O]

Only choose them including you.

[Sergej1972]

Now the expression "people's deputy" is used only in relation to municipal, local deputies.

[viktor.]

May God grant him health! One of not many smart and sincerely loving politician! He would sit in the President’s chair, people would live like Christ’s bosom, and not one mongrel wouldn’t open his mouth to Russia!

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: viktor.

Dean from not Many Clever and sincerely Loving Politician! I would sit in the President’s chair, people would live like Christ’s bosom

I agree with the first with the second, God forbid

[viktor.]

Why is it impossible with the second?

[Barmaleyka]

because the head of state cannot afford some demarches and so frank populism, well, if he is a good head

[Olgovich]

The bill was rejected, as noted in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, due to its "discrimination" against other peoples of Russia.

Is the return of Russians to their homeland discrimination? What is the matter with them ?!

[kepmor]

but nothing ... they’re just afraid ... because the Russians are too dangerous for our foreign power ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

Is the return of Russians to their homeland discrimination? What is the matter with them ?!

The problem of some people is that they do not understand that they live in a multinational state. This applies not only to Zhirinovsky, but also to many who are present on this site.
If we look at the issue from this point of view, then yes - this is direct discrimination on a national basis.
We already have a simplified procedure for former citizens of the USSR and for stateless persons - including non-citizens of the Baltic states.
For Russian-speaking - there is also.
In addition, such issues can be resolved promptly at the federal level, we have all seen this in the examples of South Ossetia, Crimea, Donbass and Ukraine.

Why Zhirinovsky needed a separate law for the Russians is completely unclear, only to proudly leave the hall.

Where did I get all this from:
https://emigrant.expert/grazhdanstvo/poluchenie-rf-v-uproshhennom-poryadke

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

The problem of some people is that they do not understand that they live in a multinational state.

The problem of some (including on this site) is that they forget that without the Russians, there would be no Russia in sight

Quote: Gray Brother

We already have a simplified procedure for former citizens of the USSR and for stateless persons - including non-citizens of the Baltic states.
For Russian-speaking - there is also.

Take the tests yourself on the soft chancre for the commission and prove also that you are not sick with syphilis, are not convicted, etc.

Learn from the Israelis-HOW you need to bring YOURSELF-to your homeland: from the first day of arrival, every person who arrives is automatically a citizen.

Quote: Gray Brother

In addition, such issues can be resolved promptly at the federal level, we have all seen this with examples Donbass and Ukraine.

What is the efficiency, what is the matter with you?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

The problem of some (including on this site) is that they forget that without the Russians, there would be no Russia in sight

And now there will be Russia if you leave only Russians in it? For centuries, Russians have been gathering other nations around themselves, and certainly not in order to record all of them in a non-decreasing manner.

Take the tests yourself on the soft chancre for the commission and prove also that you are not sick with syphilis, are not convicted, etc.

Syphonists and criminals are not needed.

Learn from the Israelis-HOW you need to bring YOURSELF-to your homeland: from the first day of arrival, every person who arrives is automatically a citizen.

So they live in a Nazi (Zionist) state - Jews are God's chosen people, and the rest are goyim.
Therefore, everything is possible for a Jew - both to carry a siphon and to commit crimes abroad. He will still be given citizenship.
Well, nafig learn this.

Quote: Olgovich

What is the efficiency, what is the matter with you?

Ordinary - a simplified procedure was introduced in a couple of days just by presidential decree. Without Zhirinovsky and his kooky, please note.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

And now there will be Russia if you leave only Russians in it?

if hypothetically, then yes, why not?
But without the Russians, there will be no way.

Quote: Gray Brother

For centuries, Russians have been gathering other nations around themselves, and certainly not in order to record all of them in a non-decreasing manner.

Bravo!

Quote: Gray Brother

Syphonists and criminals are not needed.

And what are needed? You give the criteria: according to age, health, skull circumference, solvency, etc.
Therefore, in this cesspool-in the procedure for obtaining a residence permit and citizenship, people are immersed not at will (as it should be), but according to the most severe necessity.

Therefore, there is practically no influx of Russians.

Quote: Gray Brother

So they live in a Nazi (Zionist) state - Jews are God's chosen people, and the rest are goyim.
Therefore, everything is possible for a Jew - both to carry a siphon and to commit crimes abroad. He will still be given citizenship.
Well, nafig learn this.

Their population is growing, with indigenous citizens, in Russia, on the contrary.


Tell me, what is good and normal for Russians.

Quote: Gray Brother

Ordinary - a simplified procedure was introduced in a couple of days just by presidential decree.

In a couple of days? FIVE YEARS OLD, if not in the know.
And what flour to hand over and receive documents in LDNR-read

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

if hypothetically, then yes, why not?

Really - why not?
There is no Tatarstan, no Buryatia, no Chuvashia, etc.

Quote: Olgovich

Their population is growing, with indigenous citizens, in Russia, on the contrary.

These "indigenous citizens" do not live in Israel - they bring down the United States and Canada for the most part.

Quote: Olgovich

And what flour to hand over and receive documents in LDNR-read

What kind of flour? In the first month, 12000 appeals, of which 1200 were examined. To wait a long time, but it’s a matter of improving the organization of the process - they’ll fix it, it's okay.
Martyrs:

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

Really - why not?
There is no Tatarstan, no Buryatia, no Chuvashia, etc.

How is it not ?! There are Russian-sea! You already forgot that you yourself set the condition:

Quote: Gray Brother
And now there will be Russia if you leave only Russians in it?

Quote: Gray Brother

These "indigenous citizens" do not live in Israel - they bring down the United States and Canada for the most part.

Nonsense...

Quote: Gray Brother

What kind of flour? In the first month, 12000 appeals, of which 1200 were examined. To wait a long time, but it’s a matter of improving the organization of the process - they’ll fix it, it's okay.

Long give.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

How is it not ?! There are Russian-sea! You already forgot that you yourself set the condition:

I didn’t set any conditions for anyone)))
In Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, there were also all sorts of Russians in the sea.

Quote: Olgovich

Nonsense...

Nothing of the kind, the whole point is that only Jews, Baptists and representatives of sexual minorities can obtain a residence permit without question in the USA and Canada.
The rest will be cheated for several years.

Quote: Olgovich

Long give.

In Crimea, too, there were lines at first, but then everything was settled.
Documents in the republics themselves are submitted - these are their organizational problems.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

No conditions I didn’t set anyone)))

AGAIN:

Quote: Gray Brother
And now there will be Russia if you leave some Russians in it?

Who set this condition?

Quote: Gray Brother

In Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan, there were also all sorts of Russians in the sea.

Kazakhs cut off from Russia 80 years ago

Quote: Gray Brother

Nothing of the kind, the whole point is that only Jews, Baptists and representatives of sexual minorities can obtain a residence permit without question in the USA and Canada

Like everyone: the bulk of those who came to Israel remain there.

Quote: Gray Brother

In Crimea, too, there were lines at first, but then everything was settled.
Documents in the republics themselves are submitted - these are their organizational problems.

Go to the local FMS and see what is going on there to obtain a residence permit, citizenship and who is standing there and who is in good condition will decide on this battle.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

your Kazakhstani people cut off from Russia 80 years ago

Seriously? And I heard the USSR there was some.

Quote: Olgovich

the bulk of those who came to Israel remain there.

From the CIS countries, yes, and where should they go - they are the same, they’ve got their lot in a taxi to turn the steering wheel and wash the floors in the supermarket.
And they are also called Russian there, which is very disappointing)))

Quote: Olgovich

Go to your local FMS and see

They are there for a labor patent. And so there is an online appointment appointment - in time, you can’t be late, otherwise they’ll send them for good.
There are no branches in our area.
I looked at the panorama - "tails" on the streets are not visible.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

Seriously? And I heard the USSR there was some.

Seriously? And which Kazakhstan was cut from ... Russia? If "all the same," then why is Kazakhstan there today, and not Russia?
Now are these boundaries in the know?

Quote: Gray Brother

з CIS countries yesand where do they go - they are starving, their lot in a taxi to turn the steering wheel and wash the floors in the supermarket.

Write nonsense

Quote: Gray Brother

There are a labor patent

Are they behind a residence permit?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

Now are these boundaries in the know?

Tell the Tatar that now only Russians will live here and you will see what happens.
In Kazakhstan, there used to be 40 percent of the Russian population, and these people lived in the USSR, and not somewhere else.
We still have internal borders - we live in the federation if you did not know.

Quote: Olgovich

Are they behind a residence permit?

To another department for sure. Or did you think that there was one window on everyone in the wall?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

And what are needed?

Normal competent and law-abiding citizens who have the mind to go to the doctor and cure their siphon.

[Olgovich]

Quote: Gray Brother

normal competent and law-abiding citizens who have the intelligence to go to the doctor and cure their siphon.

Incapable old women to kill? How is Hitler insane? So that the budget is not burdened?

[Gray brother]

Quote: Olgovich

Incapable old women to kill?

What for? To appoint a pension. Now, by the way, a single pension system has been introduced across the CIS. Those. if a person in another country worked and moved to another for permanent residence, then he will receive a full pension.
Otherwise, it will be minimal - the old women will not live on it.

And who told you that if an elderly person, then he is necessarily incapable?

[Alexander Ra]

Quote: Gray Brother

The problem of some people is that they do not understand that they live in a multinational state.

It’s right that we don’t want to discriminate against other nations, but it’s wrong to tolerate our own discrimination. Russians are the most denatured people in Russia. The most denationalized and demoralized. The vitality of Russians is catastrophic. With full respect to all other peoples, Russia is for the time being Russian. Redeem Russians - this territory will be called differently and will be completely different. You can save Russia only by remembering about yourself.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Can be corrected. "The return of all representatives of the indigenous peoples inhabiting Russia", because where they live but want to return to Russia are considered Russians a priori, and even more so as native speakers of the Russian language.

[rocket757]

VVZh is right about something ... it is a pity that he did not call "our servants of the people" the name they deserve .... let the VVZh proposal "raw" but thought out to the end, so it is NECESSARY TO CORRECT and move things forward !!! Those. you need to WORK with your head too .... it looks like it's not about them ???
But at the expense of 1917 and for everything that happened then, he expressed himself in vain. The question of building a just Communist society is much more complicated and to describe everything that happened then in one word is not possible!

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

Communist society

Communist society is a crazy gelding, unlike socialist society.

[rocket757]

Quote: Gray Brother

Quote: rocket757

Communist society

Communist society is a crazy gelding, unlike socialist society.

Socialism is a transitional form on the way to where it is needed. Learn the mat part.

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

. Learn the mat part.

You won’t be fed up with one piece of equipment - if everyone is given out according to needs, then who wants to use their abilities?
And where are the guarantees that these abilities will not be applied in order to exceed your needs and through this live in luxury without doing anything useful?
When you grow up the ideal person, then contact me with your materiel.

[Ural-4320]

I would correct it - not from the age of 17, but from 53, from the death of Stalin. Recall the toast to the victorious people.

[rocket757]

Quote: Ural-4320

I would correct it - not from the age of 17, but from 53, from the death of Stalin. Recall the toast to the victorious people.

This is our story! I wish that everything were smooth and clear .... but history teaches us that everything is not good and forever! Mankind has not yet grown to such a state of development of spirit and personality.
Whenever everything will be fine! If we don't kill ourselves or "evil" little green men attack us!

[Ural-4320]

It drives me to white heat that the USSR was destroyed from the inside by the former Octobrists / pioneers / Komsomol members, who never saw the hardships and hardships of their ancestors in their lives, rested in pioneer camps, were excellent students of "military and political" and found themselves with such rot inside. Father, 50, talks about the sweets of his childhood in Taganrog, Rostov Region, but he listed some buns for me under twenty, and if you take more bread, including corn, it becomes clear why bakeries and bakeries were separate stores. And the Rostov region did not differ in great splendor of the store and significantly lost to the neighboring Donbass in terms of welfare. Constantly on vacation from Torez to Taganrog in the 2s they brought food with them.

[rocket757]

Quote: Ural-4320

A father of 50 talks about the sweets of his childhood in

Not everything in the Land of the Soviets was sweet and smooth ... i.e. shop "PRINCIPLE", in which EVERYTHING IS, was far from everywhere!
BUT, it was MUCH BETTER and HONEST !!! ... and there were always dissatisfied, that's normal. Just to see what were not satisfied THEN, and what are not satisfied NOW, is a big difference.
Most likely, it is impossible to return back, but even as there is no way to live.

[Ural-4320]

That's how it started later - from the 70s, but according to the childhood memories of their mother and father, they share 90% of the stories. Huge pioneer palaces, mugs, summer vacations, quality and quantity of food. Father remembers the decline in food prices.
Mother from Donbass, father from the Rostov region. And in the 70s, a mother, a student, carried bags of food (for housewives of rented accommodation) from Torez to Taganrog with her student. And so every session.

[g1washntwn]

We are told that Russian is not even a nation, but a state of mind. And then he offers checks and exams and other reliability. Yes, Christmas tree winders, Serbs and other volunteers defending LDNR are more Russian than citizens sitting in their 5th point in these commissions and deputy seats!
In the end, be honest to admit that the referendum and opinion of citizens who turned out to be Russians and outside of Russia was ignored and these citizens of the USSR have the right to return to a country that calls itself the assignee of that USSR !!!

[rocket757]

THERE IS A RIGHT, but our "servants of the people" and others, up there, will have to .... no, you can't prove it, you can't get them through! it is necessary to use more intelligible methods!

[M. Michelson]

And after Zhirinovsky appeared in politics, this mockery took on especially large proportions.

[Boris55]

Quote: M. Michelson

And after Zhirinovsky appeared in politics, this mockery took on especially large proportions.

When the Jews are preoccupied with the Russian question, it doesn’t end with anything good for the Russians: 688, 1653, 1917, 1990. Isn’t it time for the Russians to solve their problems themselves?

[Barmaleyka]

then the country's population today would be 160-170 million people.

here you can argue with the Zhirik, the problem is not what they provide (according to the resettlement program, and now you can get it) or not, but the fact that a person breaks down from his place of residence when he finishes himself, otherwise he hopes for the best

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Zhiriku 2 on history. They have been mocked at the Russian people since 1649, in 1917 the people presented everything and until 1991 lived quite dignified. BUT relaxed rolls and now rollback.

[AU Ivanov.]

Are you serious. Life in the barracks, mass unemployment of the 20s - is that what you call a decent life? A real increase in living standards began in the late thirties.

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

But the reverse has begun.

[wooja]

The question is really serious .... Zhirinovsky is right, but the Duma also has truth ... The country is not ready for the return of compatriots, especially for the mass and 2-3 generation of emigrants. The contrast between Russian and Western realities is too great, but this is not the biggest stumbling block, but the mentality, the facade of "Russian democracy" will collapse - 30 years of liberal rule did not lead to the creation of either a liberal or a democratic society, so the Duma does not need troublemakers at all and critics,

[Gardamir]

The country is not ready for the return of compatriots,

Do not understand! Either Krymnash, then not ready.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Gardamir

Do not understand! Either Krymnash, then not ready.

No need to understand and reflect - need to spread!

[wooja]

IN THE CRIMEA - ITS OWNS, but from the West - others ..., education, upbringing, beliefs and possibly memories, and if Ukrainian reality is relatively similar to Russian ..., then Western and Russian are not combined in the best way ....

[Genofond]

Volfovich is not afraid of telling the truth to the uterus, albeit half-Jewish .. So he cares for the Russian people, strange of course, but he is 100% right
And in the 17th people just took revenge on all the bloodsuckers on the body of Russia .. I know everything under the root! Again we are brought to Russian turmoil.

[wooja]

Adoption of the law is tantamount to the return of the Bolsheviks from exile .... no one wants to share power ... and a lot of things can come up, which the current government is trying not to remember.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Zhirinovsky said everything correctly, with the help of this law a number of serious problems could be solved. How much can our citizens be scattered and harassed abroad. Millions of Russian citizens want to obtain Russian citizenship and return to their homeland, but because of bureaucratic red tape, they cannot do this.

[Million]

When thirsty, it is better to have a glass of clean water than a bucket from a puddle.

[1536]

It is worth thinking about creating a special service to select the best of our compatriots abroad. And it is to them and to give the right to obtain citizenship in a facilitated way. The status of such a service is enshrined in law.
Demarches like the one described will not lead to anything. To increase the population for the sake of increasing the population is at least short-sighted.

[Tank hard]

Quote: 1536

It is worth thinking about creating a special service to select the best of our compatriots abroad.

It’s just worth giving all ethnic Russian citizenship of the Russian Federation, without any conditions there, it's worth it.

[Romanenko]

Sometimes Zhirinovsky speaks heartily when not for money.
I agree with him completely.
It is a pity that no one from the ruling dynasty is going to rewrite the constitution in Russian and stop spreading rot on the indigenous population.
Back in the late 90's, somehow, while in the Arkhangelsk region, I had a conversation with one of my old friends on the national issue, he told me that he signed up for Pomors.
So these are Russians, then I told him.
And he answered me, netushka, now the Russians can’t do anything, but I’m a small nationality, I can fish, cut wood and hunt.
Although the Pomors are the very Russians from all Russians.

[pafegosoff]

I had a lot of countrymen at the school.
One of them is Petya Ponomarev. Nationality - Mansi.
I say: "Petya! Your dad is Russian, and your mother is an official of the district council."
He says: so of a small nationality all roads are open.
Like this. And I’m not lucky - everyone is Russian, only his wife is a hohlushka, and that one is from Kharkov (and this is almost Russia). I told my daughter in due time: get a Ukrainian passport (I had a wallpaper there: my son was an Olympic athlete -1980, my daughter-Chernobyl - 1986 (after the explosion) And I myself flew through Chernobyl at the time of the accident ... Before the first of May.

[Sergej1972]

All who signed up for Pomors are now automatically considered Russian.

[thinker]

Quote: Gray Brother

Where did I get all this from:
https://emigrant.expert/grazhdanstvo/poluchenie-rf-v-uproshhennom-poryadke

Well, well, I watched the video there - a young Russian guy from Kazakhstan obtained citizenship in a SIMPLIFIED ORDER in four years!

[pafegosoff]

I agree, the disgusting mockery of officials over Russian people!

[Fkjydjckfrgh]

Quote: thinker

Quote: Gray Brother

Where did I get all this from:
https://emigrant.expert/grazhdanstvo/poluchenie-rf-v-uproshhennom-poryadke

Well, well, I watched the video there - a young Russian guy from Kazakhstan obtained citizenship in a SIMPLIFIED ORDER in four years!

His name is not Dupardot

[pafegosoff]

It is a pity that Zhirik speaks about this once in a while.
It is necessary - always and constantly, like that Roman senator about Carthage.
And so, Volodya, who grew up in Kazakhstan, knows the situation better than the "Maskov" deputies ...

[3vs]

Comrade Zhirinovsky is starting to like me!
The rest are chewing snot!
I wonder if Comrade Putin will say something about this in a straight line ...

[Tank hard]

Quote: 3vs

I wonder if Comrade Putin will say something about this in a straight line.

Yeah, I'm already stocking up with popcorn ..

[armata_armata]

Zhirinovsky: Above the Russian people mock since 1917 year

Vladimir Volfovich you are in power since the 90s only, our answer is Zelensky

Zhirinovsky said that today Russians, who want to return to Russia, are having an exam in Russian, have been forcing Russians to wait for years for a decision on granting citizenship, to prove solvency.

According to Zhirinovsky, “the mockery of the Russian people continues from the 1917 year.”

So, let’s go to France, Mr. Zhirinovsky, there’s just an entry according to a simplified procedure, well, and every week a new attack

[armata_armata]

I’m already watching the emigrants have time to worm ... The poor themselves infringe on their rights, you came to the Russian Federation from the same Kazakhstan, you receive a lump-sum payment and allowance for the number of years, the same priority in entering and finding a job, in starting a business, preferential mortgage
And if you respected here lived your whole life, then you have taxes on all this ...
We will simplify the life of Russians from the former republics correctly, let them go, we’ll contain everyone on our neck ...
https://www.pnp.ru/social/rossiyskie-regiony-zhdut-grazhdan-byvshego-sssr.html

[apro]

This showman decided to throw a fire into the smoldering rating. This figure has been grimacing on the podium for 30 years already and during that time he didn’t show himself to scandals .... and it’s not enough that he clanged his tongue there. There were no real ones.

[AU Ivanov.]

Why is Zhirik real? He has been sitting tightly in the Duma for many years, his party is steadily gaining its percentage of votes. Sometimes he makes fiery speeches so that the electorate does not forget him. Like Zyuganov, with his Communist Party. Type of opposition.

[Tank hard]

Quote: apro

This showman decided to throw fire in a smoldering rating

Well, this one does at least something for the majority of the population of this country, unlike the rest of the "showmen with showmen."

[orcinus]

do I have one after this meeting of the State Duma the last shade of pink from the glasses came off?

[Altona]

The bill was rejected, as noted in the State Duma of the Russian Federation, due to its "discrimination" against other peoples of Russia.
-------------------
Chabadniki here also found an excuse. One could simply insert a list of Chuvash nationalities, Tatars, Mordovians, Komi, Udmurts, and so on.

[Sergej1972]

Zhirinovsky would have to offer this.

[kvs207]

Especially over him, poor fellow.

[Igor Pa]

Zhirik is right as always!

[Victor 73/XNUMX/XNUMX]

All right, I 100% agree on this issue with Zhirinovsky. But the bastards in parliament and thoughts are just enemies of the Russian people. Some in Russian do not understand it well. I am in the passport of the USSR. I wrote Russian nationality, and I can not get citizenship. And some - who are not Russian in every possible way and gain their citizenship. So soon it will not be Russian either, there will be nobody to read to Pushkin ....

[onix757]

Apparently, he believes that if he hadn’t been 17, he would have been sitting in a thought) Most likely it was much more prosaic, he dreamed of buying boots and reading and writing.

[Tank hard]

I completely agree with Zhirinovsky... Perhaps I will vote for him if he again runs for the presidency. There is no more trust in the current leadership, for obvious reasons, the communists for whom I would agree to vote remained only in the 1957 film "Communist", the current ones revolt with their races against churches along with "liberal individuals "like Navalny and other similar waving rainbow flags under the approval of the" stars-stripes ". The choice is limited, it is better then for Zhirinovsky.

[prior]

Zhirinovsky is far from the last of those who mock the Russian people.
So many years in power and what except blah blah blah?

[Departure]

why discrimination of other peoples living in Russia? these people are still just applying for citizenship and are NOT citizens of my country, and the country has the right to refuse, as all civilized countries do.
It’s a pity that Asians get their passports in a couple of months, without straining at all, without running anywhere, and they can’t accept the Slavs for years, this is discrimination, yes.
it’s even a shame that Zhirik says a lot of the right things, but there is a big suspicion that he is a simple populist, posed by the power to say these things with the same general vector.

[yehat]

Quote: axiles100682

Kazakh or what?

Tatar deported from Crimea.

[yehat]

Quote: K-612-O

The standard of living of the middle peasant in 1913, the Soviet government achieved only by the mid 70's

this is a blatant lie.
To begin with, the average peasant of 1913 on average went hungry for 1 year out of 3.
secondly, land shortages and unsuccessful reforms led to that. that a large proportion of peasants became simply farm laborers.
What level of life are you talking about? or do you compare only with fists?

[Genofond]

Who are the most ardent defenders of the Russian people and Russia? Zhirinovsky, Soloviev, Vaserman, Kedmi, etc. in all "our media" ..
As someone said (it doesn’t matter) ... When Pozner enters the patriots of the Russian people and Russia .. Here then put out the Russian light! I can smell it with genes ..

[frizzy]

VVZH is still the one - "furry"

[aries2200]

According to Zhirinovsky, “the mockery of the Russian people continues from the 1917 year.”
it is necessary to add ecm the genocide of the Russian people is taking place ..with the beginning in 1917 by pariah the BUND-Jewish Zionist organization-headed by Bronstein (Trotsky) until 1957, the Communists Jews
and Ukrainian nationalists .. and so on ... now the Jewish oligarchy is taxing .... Zhirinovsky’s Semitic blood himself .... you can’t believe such people

[2112vda]

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And you did not know that the Russians have a Europioid race, and the Kazakhs have a Mongoloid race?

Here you have a mistake. Kazakhs do not belong to pure Mongoloids. They are descendants of Caucasians and Mongoloids with a predominance of Caucasoid characters.

[Edvid]

https://merkuschev66.livejournal.com/19209.html
Great-Russian chauvinism First came into use at the beginning of the XNUMXth century, in a revolutionary environment; say, Z. N. Gippius during World War I vehemently protested against “Russian chauvinism”, for example, against renaming Leningrad to Petrograd. With the Bolsheviks coming to power, the term came into use and became one of the most negatively colored ideological cliches; great-power chauvinism was opposed to internationalism. Lenin, criticizing the Stalinist plan of autonomy, wrote about the future central government of the USSR, in which "an insignificant percentage of Soviet and Soviet workers will sink into the sea of ​​the Great Russian chauvinistic trash." Lenin proclaimed the slogan: "Great power chauvinism - a battle!" Zinoviev called for "cutting off the head of our Russian chauvinism," "burning with a hot iron wherever there is at least a hint of great-power chauvinism ...". Bukharin explained to his compatriots: “We, as a former great-power nation, must put ourselves in an unequal position in the sense of even greater concessions to national trends” and demanded that the Russians “be put in a lower position than others.” The People's Commissar of Agriculture Yakovlev complained that "the vile great-power Russian chauvinism penetrates the apparatus." In all Stalin's speeches on the national question at party congresses from X to XVI, he was declared the main danger to the state. Stalin proclaimed: "A decisive struggle against the remnants of Great Russian chauvinism is the first next task of our party."

[zenion]

Stalin was especially mocked. He made everyone study, work, and did not allow to steal.

[Campanella]

Fucking clown! So many years dominated by the good of zero! One word merchant.

[Edvid]

Still it would be necessary to publish the names of deputies who voted for and against.
In the next Duma elections, people would vote for them accordingly ...