Bundeswehr first handed veteran badge

In the days of the armed forces, the Bundeswehr opened its doors to citizens, which was a good opportunity to honor veterans in front of visitors. 15 June 2019 was awarded the first sign dedicated to them.

Veteran's Badge (Veteranenabzeichen)

In this case, the corresponding order on the establishment of this award was signed by the Federal Minister of Defense Ursula von der Lyayen 26 on November 2018. It is issued to soldiers committed to the cause and loyal to Germany.

As indicated, the veteran badge is awarded in addition to awards for special services, participation in foreign operations and military achievements. He should personify military partnership and faithful service to society.

The mark must not be placed on the uniform. He must represent veterans in public.

- said the Bundeswehr.

It is issued upon request to all persons who have served and honorably left it without losing the title. Those who are in the armed forces can also apply to the higher command. The Bundeswehr warned that due to the expected influx of requests it is possible that it will take time to process the application.

As you can imagine, the veteran badge will be the most massive military award in post-war Germany.

Comments

[wt100]

An analogue of our veteran of the sun

[knn54]

-It is issued upon request to all persons who have passed the service and have HONORALLY left it without losing their rank. Those in the armed forces may also apply to a higher command.

More like - "for impeccable service." And a veteran must serve at least 10 years.
So the Iron Cross returned to Germany.

[Phil77]

Quote: knn54

-It is issued upon request to all persons who have passed the service and have HONORALLY left it without losing their rank. Those in the armed forces may also apply to a higher command.

More like - "for impeccable service." And a veteran must serve at least 10 years.
So the Iron Cross returned to Germany.

This order (the Iron Cross) was not worn in Germany until 1957, then again he jumped to the chest awarded. The only requirement was the absence of a swastika on the cross. In general, the history of this award dates back to 1813.

[Basil50]

You are wrong, if you fully read the justification of the award and the statute, then this is an organization of the German military, including retirees, at first into a certain * trade union *, into which it will later be reborn as a secret. But the fact that this is the beginning of the structuring of the German military is clear. Apparently the dream of the colonies and the almost success in the past * conquering the world * does not allow them to exist peacefully.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Vasily50

Apparently the dream of the colonies and the almost success in the past * conquering the world * does not allow them to exist peacefully.

And it will probably be a revival of the past, defeated in the Great Patriotic Wehrmacht ...
For starters, still living veterans will be awarded ... Then the Hitler Youth will be restored ...
History makes another round ...

[Valery Valery]

Something too much this cross is similar to the "Iron Cross" of Hitler's Germany.

[Cowbra]

MG-3 also something like this And the badges on the Leoperd towers awaken unhealthy reflexes ...

[Romka47]

It is issued to everyone who has not lost their title ..., in short, to everyone in a row, and if he served for more than 3 years, you can add oak leaves

[vladcub]

See, I thought about it, but this eagle has a different shape, and there are similarities

[Fat]

Quote: vladcub

See, I thought about it, but this eagle has a different shape, and there are similarities

On the Hitlerite cross there is a swastika and the numbers 1939 on the lower "ray", a gray-white ribbon with a red stripe in the center.
There was never an eagle on the Iron Cross, either in 1813, or in 1870, or in 1914. The imperial crown and the initials of the monarch.
In 1991, German Chancellor Helmut Kohl was offered to renew the awarding of the Iron Cross and to hand it over to those who risked their lives, crossed the Berlin Wall. For this they came up with a slippery wording: "German Cold War veterans."
Kohl refused, reasoning that this award was unnecessarily associated with the 3rd Reich, and the new awards would be misinterpreted.
He established the Iron Cross in 1813, the Prussian King Frederick William III as a reward for military distinctions in the war with Napoleon.
"Military distinction" - this is the initial wording, then another appeared: "For bravery on the battlefield."
Frederick William III in wanted to involve as many people as possible in the circle of the awarded.
It looks like the Germans really revived the "iron cross", though it should only be worn with civilian clothes.
It all looks disgusting, in my biased view. Bad sign, despite the 200 year history of the sign.

[Altona]

Quote: Valery Valery

Something too much this cross is similar to the "Iron Cross" of Hitler's Germany.

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This is it, Iserns Kreuz in form. By design in the sense. In the form of the Prussian and German awards.

[figwam]

Quote: Valery Valery

Something too much this cross is similar to the "Iron Cross" of Hitler's Germany.

They had a cross before Hitler, but on the whole the Germans revive their military traditions. What is it for?

[dzvero]

[quote Why would this be?] [/ quote]
Once traditions are restored, the next partition of Poland is just around the corner ...

[Fat]

Quote: figvam

They had a cross before Hitler

In the photo there is a tape of the Hitler Order. This sign should correspond to a purely gray ribbon with two narrow white stripes closer to the edge.

[kit88]

But especially for the Russians.
Kulm cross.

Awarding a special award, known as the Kulm Cross, was introduced by King of Prussia Frederick William III specifically for Russian soldiers, most of them guards who distinguished themselves in the defeat of the corps of French General Joseph Dominic Wandam at Priesten near the town of Kulm, now Chlumec (Chlume) Czech Republic. 1813 year.
12 people were nominated for this cross, but only 066 soldiers who survived by 7131 were able to receive the award.

[Evil 55]

Well yes .. the next step, perhaps, will be oak leaves or swords with "Swarovski" bruliks ....

[vladcub]

To the point or not, but I remembered the veteran organization "steel helmet", it also began with "harmless" badges, but where did it come?

[Altona]

Quote: vladcub

To the point or not, but I remembered the veteran organization "steel helmet", it also began with "harmless" badges, but where did it come?

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Yesterday I watched a movie by Boris Yulin about the Cossacks, so there he drew a parallel with the form of the Unarmia and the Hitler Youth. There is a stylized eagle head with a swastika at the base, here a stylized falcon head with a cut star Shoigu as an organization logo. And sand or beige color of the form itself. You can compare yourself, there are photos on the Internet. The video itself can also be found on Youtube. It’s a parallel, because the fit of a military uniform has changed of course over 100 years, but the color scheme has confused him with beige, black and red.

[vladcub]

Altona, I would not focus on the color scheme. The main thing is not the form, but the essence.
For example: a pioneer organization was created on the model of scout squads, but you and I were not scouts.
Somewhere on the site infa flickered that swastika was a Slavic symbol, but the ancient Slavs had nothing to do with fascism

[Altona]

Quote: vladcub

Altona, I would not focus on the color scheme. The main thing is not the form, but the essence.

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In the bourgeois paradigm, a completely different essence can be gently inhaled into the youth organization. Everything can begin harmlessly, well and then how to turn.

[Fat]

Quote: vladcub

To the point or not, but I remembered the veteran organization "steel helmet", it also began with "harmless" badges, but where did it come?

For the sake of fairness, it is worth noting that the "Rot Front" (Union of Red Front Soldiers (German: Roter Frontkämpferbund, SCF, RFB) Rote Front, a German communist political and military organization in 1924-1933 was originally an organization of veterans. If you do not know the language, then the anthem The mouth of the front "Die rote Front marschiert" is perceived by ear no better than the brown "Wir sind die braunen soldaten".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24wIXLZPt1M
Now the gesture "rotfront", which was used by internationalists in the fight against the Nazis, is used by left-wing radical movements and parties.

[Phil77]

Well, with the Iron Cross, it’s essentially clear that there is a revival of this order (design questions do not count!) Hence the question: Is it not time for the authorities of our country to return from oblivion (abolished in 1992) one of the most honorable military awards of the Order of the Red Star ?!

[Fat]

Quote: Phil77

But is it not time for the authorities of our country to return from oblivion (abolished in 1992) one of the most honorable military awards-orders of the Red Star ?!

Then it’s better to order the Red Banner and return the name “Red Banner” to the military units. But it seems almost impossible.

[Phil77]

You know, my opinion is this: these two Soviet military orders are much more honorable than the new-old order of St. Andrew the First-Called with diamonds, it doesn’t matter of gold. And by the way, I have nothing against returning the pieces of the Red Banner !!!

[Doliva63]

Quote: Thick

Quote: Phil77

But is it not time for the authorities of our country to return from oblivion (abolished in 1992) one of the most honorable military awards-orders of the Red Star ?!

Then it’s better to order the Red Banner and return the name “Red Banner” to the military units. But it seems almost impossible.

When Lenin started the creation of the USSR, this also seemed impossible to many. So everything is in our hands, as they say.

[Phil77]

I just can’t accept that our current authorities are so stubbornly moving away from our Soviet history. Offhand. Plywood mausoleum, three-color flag on Victory Day, incomprehensible * holidays * November 4, June 12, absurdity with orders. The Germans do not hesitate to return from the iron cross of non-existence (I repeat it was not worn in Germany from 1945 to 1957), the French are not embarrassed by their revolution (a national holiday), the Angles generally do not see the actions of their rulers at all point (and they have something to be ashamed of!). aside, well, that’s what they didn’t please with the Order of the Red Star and the Banner? By the fact that they are exactly red ?? And what people received for their EXPLAITS! which the current authorities are not capable of, they probably just infuriate them! Confused? Well, excuse me, such thoughts came.

[beeper]

The restoration of neo-fascism began and was implicitly carried out in Germany not today and not yesterday, and it is in the interests of Washington, which was occupying Europe, which was becoming increasingly fascist!
Maybe just for the radicalization of the mood of Europeans and the Nazification (essentially pro-American!) Of European countries by the American special services, the military and "diplomatic pressure" a massive influx of non-European margins from Africa and the Middle East was stimulated ??!
Indeed, under this "shop" the Washington hawk-advisers can easily manipulate their "sub-Soviet" puppet countries and direct them "in the right direction" (even to the detriment of their own economic and political interests of the governments and peoples of these countries!), Which we are seeing now in Europe!

[1536]

The Iron Cross was established by Frederick William III of 10 on March 1813 of the year for the military distinctions shown in the war for the liberation of Germany from Napoleon-Bonaparte. The order was awarded to all categories of military personnel. And that iron cross and the present resembles in shape the cross of the Teutonic Order.
But among millions and millions of people all over the world, it reminds of the horrors of fascism, since this is the "order" awarded to the German fascist criminals during the Second World War. And it doesn't matter that modern Germany is just a sign of military distinction. This is Germany's "frog racing" on a path from which there will be no return! Mistakes cannot be repeated ten times.
By the way, in the Central Museum of the Armed Forces of Russia in Moscow, such crosses are poured into transparent containers at the stands of the museum exposition dedicated to the Great Patriotic War of the Soviet people with Nazi invaders. The museum is large, there is a place for other German crosses, if that.

[PPD]

And how is the sign called, "For the oppression of other peoples"?

[Astra wild]

Cowra colleague, the picture is certainly good, but it recalls the terrible suffering of the people in the Second World War
In 1993, in the military unit I found a stack of newspapers from 1969 and I remember the memories of a front-line soldier: on the eve of the Second World War there were many patriotic posters "with little blood and on foreign territory" and it was especially painful to see these posters when they retreated. Then there was a Leninist party and then with great difficulty overcame fascism.
Colleagues, let's remember the lessons of the Second World War in full !!!

[vladcub]

Quote: Altona

Quote: vladcub

Altona, I would not focus on the color scheme. The main thing is not the form, but the essence.

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In the bourgeois paradigm, a completely different essence can be gently inhaled into the youth organization. Everything can begin harmlessly, well and then how to turn.

In this case, the leadership of the Communist Party, in spite of all the symbols, has long been bourgeois leaders. At least they are the same Stalinists as the hippo Maya Plisetskaya

[Mavrikiy]

Bundeswehr first handed veteran badge

Traditionally made in "zinc"?

[Doliva63]

Quote: vladcub

Quote: Altona

Quote: vladcub

Altona, I would not focus on the color scheme. The main thing is not the form, but the essence.

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In the bourgeois paradigm, a completely different essence can be gently inhaled into the youth organization. Everything can begin harmlessly, well and then how to turn.

In this case, the leadership of the Communist Party, in spite of all the symbols, has long been bourgeois leaders. At least they are the same Stalinists as the hippo Maya Plisetskaya

As for the leadership of the Communist Party, you are apparently right. But their merit is at least that they have preserved a "niche" for those who will come later.

[vladcub]

I have long been waiting for the ADEQUATE OPPOSITION LEADER to come, but he is not!

[Doliva63]

Quote: Phil77

I just can’t accept that our current authorities are so stubbornly moving away from our Soviet history. Offhand. Plywood mausoleum, three-color flag on Victory Day, incomprehensible * holidays * November 4, June 12, absurdity with orders. The Germans do not hesitate to return from the iron cross of non-existence (I repeat it was not worn in Germany from 1945 to 1957), the French are not embarrassed by their revolution (a national holiday), the Angles generally do not see the actions of their rulers at all point (and they have something to be ashamed of!). aside, well, that’s what they didn’t please with the Order of the Red Star and the Banner? By the fact that they are exactly red ?? And what people received for their EXPLAITS! which the current authorities are not capable of, they probably just infuriate them! Confused? Well, excuse me, such thoughts came.

Doesn’t bother us anywhere. The authorities are steadily extorting Soviet history from the consciousness of the population in order to protect the results of the collapse of the Union and the privatization of national property. Let me remind you, the population voted in a referendum for the Union. All subsequent actions of the government are illegal including the incumbent president.

[Phil77]

Quote: Doliva63

Doesn’t wind us anywhere

I didn’t quite exactly put it! Well, of course, the authorities. It is clear when this happened in the troubled 90s, but now? When they are trying to be like patriots?

[Doliva63]

Quote: vladcub

I have long been waiting for the ADEQUATE OPPOSITION LEADER to come, but he is not!

One day a story will appoint him, without options.