Britain will give the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier to NATO

Royal New Carrier fleet, HMS Queen Elizabeth, will be placed at the disposal of the North Atlantic Alliance as part of the Preparedness Initiative program, which is scheduled for 2021.

I am pleased to announce that NATO will soon be able to call upon [for its needs] aircraft carriers of the “Queen Elizabeth” class and the UK F-35 fighter jets, which will help in fighting threats around the world

- announced outgoing British Prime Minister Theresa May on 4 June.

The Preparedness Initiative was agreed at the Brussels Summit on July 11-12, 2018. Then the obligation was made to create a group of rapid reaction forces on the basis of national troops from 30 mechanized battalions, 30 aviation squadrons and 30 warships. They must be ready to deploy in the event of a crisis within 30 days.

Whether projecting world power, intending to fight or deliver vital help across the planet, HMS Queen Elizabeth and her syship HMS Prince of Wales will be flying the flag of global Britain

- noted the Minister of Defense of the country Penny Mordaunt.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth was commissioned in December 2017 year, the achievement of combat readiness is scheduled for 2020 year.

Comments

[knn54]

The treasury is not pulling?

[Piramidon]

Quote: knn54

The treasury is not pulling?

Not only in Russia - "there is no money, but ..." you hold on "," the foreign countries (the USA) will help us, "we don't fucking need these troughs" ... It turns out that small-shavens have the same problems.

[bessmertniy]

Britain is numbing - it can’t get used to it at all, that it has long been no mistress of the seas, and not the metropolis of a huge empire. She wants to shake her moth with a broken imperial flag!

[boathouse]

You're wrong, the Britons got rid of a large part of their fleet some time after WWII. It was then that the USSR surpassed the British fleet in the number of ships. And they do not suffer from "phantom" pains. But when it was necessary to "punish" Argentina for the Falklands, the British fleet was on the other side of the world and Argentina was "punished".

[seti]

Argentina just started early. Had it begun years through 5, then no British aircraft carrier was standing by the British and the Falkland Islands would be part of the country that it should be.

[boathouse]

So they belong to the country to which they should belong. And if Argentina had started 100-200 years earlier? Subjunctive moods are out of place here. Adventures, besides being stupid, are always expensive.

[TermNachTer]

I guess not even 5 years, 2 would be enough. The question of selling Invisible to Australia has already been practically resolved. And with one aircraft carrier there was nothing to do there, especially since the Invincible had a Sea Dart, but Hermes was not.

[2 Level Advisor]

oh what a controversial issue from the point of view of the influence of grandmother Lisa on the world, which has not gone anywhere, at least economically .. although from the point of view of official borders and the "type of sovereignty" of many countries, they are not an empire for a long time .. and so I was always amazed at least -why Great Britain is allowed 4 football teams to participate in international championships (England, Wales, Northern Ireland, Scotland) ..

[Tuzik]

Therefore, Celtic does not want to be in the Premier League.

[Ⅴ - vendetta]

They should be ready for deployment in the event of a crisis within 30 days.

What kind of crisis is it that suffers 30 days? Any regional conflict? Probably. In the global sense of the crisis, as a full-blown conflict (for example, with Russia or China), 30 days is deadly long, catastrophic. What can neither please.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta

30 days is deadly, catastrophically.

30 days - for the transfer of personnel, all equipment, their deployment and complete readiness for warfare. In the Atlantic region. Not much time.
Everything is relative. Therefore, I will ask a counter question: how long did we deploy a frail group in Syria?

[Ⅴ - vendetta]

Quote: Gregory_45

how much did we deploy a weak little group in Syria?

So this is a regional conflict. He suffers there ... But, I repeat,

Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta

In the global sense of the crisis, as a full-blown conflict (for example, with Russia or China), 30 days is deadly long, catastrophic.

What can not please .

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta

In the global sense of the crisis, as a full-blown conflict (for example, with Russia or China), 30 days is deadly long, catastrophic.
What can not please

well, I didn’t know what teleportation machines were already invented and they are using it in full)) Either transfer ships or BTA to carry out the business, or put everything together in a heap, press the button and get the result. Gorgeous ...

[Ⅴ - vendetta]

Sarcasm, I understand. But I believe that the global conflict will not last more than 30 days. The winner will already be known. And it is possible that most likely there will be some losers. It will not be up to deploying anything. Only the search for water, food and warmth.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta

It will not be up to deploying anything. Only the search for water, food and warmth.

in general, everyone except the rocket launchers can immediately stomp into the cache with a hidden stew ..

[WILL]

Quote: Gregory_45

Quote: Ⅴ - vendetta

It will not be up to deploying anything. Only the search for water, food and warmth.

in general, everyone except the rocket launchers can immediately stomp into the cache with a hidden stew ..

And brandy ??? How to remove radionuclides?

[Roman070280]

I am pleased to announce that NATO will soon be able to call upon [for its needs] aircraft carriers of the “Queen Elizabeth” class and the UK F-35 fighter jets, which will help in fighting threats around the world

English ships for English money ... American planes for English money ..

Preparedness Initiative

Nah ... Russophobia has nothing to do with it ..))

[Saboteur Holuy]

England has a great fleet, and the crews are the best, for the British have always been responsible for the training of personnel

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Saboteur Holuay

England has a great fleet, and the crews are the best

perhaps it was before the Falklands. They perfectly showed where the "Lady of the Seas" fleet is located.
Now this place has only become deeper.
Britain finally lost the status of maritime superpower.
The British Navy is rapidly losing combat capability
As part of the verification of the British Navy's orders, the independent audit company National Audit Office found out that serviceable ships are in good condition through the use of used parts and assemblies removed from other vessels.

The number of incidents at the naval base (naval base) of nuclear submarines (ALL) of the British navy has almost doubled over the past year. Such information was published on March 2 by the electronic version of the newspaper "Independent" with reference to materials declassified by the United Kingdom Department of Defense. It is noted that the number of accidents associated with nuclear installations "increased from 57 cases in 2013 to 99 in 2014".
In just the last six years, the Clyde (Scotland) naval base, where work was carried out with nuclear weapons, noted "almost 400 incidents" associated with a "low security culture". "In the most serious 12 cases" at the base, classified by the military as "Category B" (Category B), there was "actual or high" risk "of a limited release of radiation inside the building or A GSH or unplanned exposure," the newspaper said.

The combat readiness of the ships of the British Navy is estimated at no more than 25%.

To fulfill the traditional tasks of the great war at sea in the form in which it was understood in the last third of the XX century, the British fleet is not suitable. For humanitarian bombing - still sufficient, but no more

[curio]

Britain finally lost the status of maritime superpower.
The British Navy is rapidly losing combat capability
The combat readiness of the ships of the British Navy is estimated at no more than 25%.
Is that what you decided? And what is your opinion based on?
And another question is how much do you assess the combat effectiveness of our Navy, and in particular the Pacific Fleet?

[Nastia makarova]

england regional power

[Sergey39]

England is generally a region of the UK. But the question is whether the WB is a controversial power. It is believed that it is in London that the center of Western civilization is located

[curio]

This "regional" power in a few days prepared and sent an expeditionary squadron with a landing for 8 tons miles, which returned everything to its original position ....... madam, it seems to me you need to respect your opponent, not to love, namely to respect and the sad experience of Argentina direct confirmation of this.

[Nastia makarova]

it has been a long time, since then much has changed

[Grigory_45]

this "sea superpower" in a "dispute between two bald men for a comb" almost lost its fleet. The British were just very lucky that Argentina had such poor means of destruction (aerial bombs).

And now we are admiring the photo - the Dagger attack aircraft is attacking the British frigate.

and this is a pair of Argentine skyhawks in the attack.

Direct shots from the Second World War - shelling from guns and top-bomb bombing)) And this is in 1982, raping a ship of the Earth’s strongest fleet ..))

[Tuzik]

Is the aircraft carrier only under the F-35V imprisoned, or will it be able to take off from this springboard and the FA-18?

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Tuzik

or can fly from this springboard and the FA-18?

may take off and take off, but will not land exactly. There are no finishers on the "Queen"

[Tuzik]

It turns out his hands are short, because Beshka has a small radius.

[voyaka uh]

F-35B can support landing operations, can protect its squadron from enemy aircraft. But for long-range strike operations, it is not suitable.
For this there is an F-35C

[Grigory_45]

Quote: voyaka uh

But for long-range strike operations, it is not suitable.
For this there is an F-35C

who cannot fly from the Queen.
In general, the wretched British aircraft carrier turned out.
AWACS - only helicopters (for obvious reasons)
No nuclear power plant
No armor and constructive protection
There is no defensive armament (can be installed sometime later)
It seems that the ship was sculpted not by the descendants of sailors and corsairs, but by some natives ...

[voyaka uh]

I cannot agree with you: in its class - light aircraft carriers - it is the best.
He has a very long deck. This allows you to do future upgrades for various types of aircraft using a springboard. And there is a place for aerofinisher.
And even a place for an electric catapult under the deck near the springboard is also provided. Only money is needed: and money is a business.
Sent Britain - and allocate stingy Parliament. How many times has this happened in the history of England
F-35B - a serious aircraft. Much cooler than little Harrier.

[Sergey39]

That is, this is not an aircraft carrier, but a blank. Which brought to mind the Americans took the hands of the Britons under their strict guidance

[voyaka uh]

Americans have nothing to do with this development. F-35B is the only vertical in the world market.
The British, being limited in funding, nevertheless successfully launched two fairly large aircraft carriers. The alternative was to remain without aircraft carriers in general.
F-35B will support the landing operations of the British Marines and protect the squadron from enemy aircraft.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: voyaka uh

in its class - light aircraft carriers - he is the best

Queen with a displacement of 70 thousand tons - a light aircraft carrier ?!))

The fact of the matter is that, with its considerable size, the ship carries a very modest air group - and inferior. There are no normal aircraft in it, and AWACS aircraft too.

Quote: voyaka uh

This allows you to do future upgrades for various types of aircraft using a springboard. And there is a place for aerofinisher.
And even a place for an electric catapult

They didn’t put it for the same reason that they refused YaSU and armor - the British showed themselves to be misery.
A possible modernization of a ship in the future does not justify it - now it is the way we see it.
Again, modernization is the withdrawal of a ship from the combat personnel. At least a couple of years. Also wonderful)

Quote: voyaka uh

F-35B - a serious aircraft. Much cooler than little Harrier

what is cooler than the English "mast guard aircraft" is indisputable. But having such a large ship, it was a sin not to land normal planes on it, with a catapult start and a finishing landing. Probably, the British are unique in this case - everyone in the world of VTOL aircraft is planted out of despair (the size of the ship does not allow), and only the British have specially built such a large trough for verticals))

[voyaka uh]

"the British are unique in this case -" ///
----

The British are generally unique.
They were the first to massively use Maxim machine guns, invented and massively used tanks.
The first used aircraft against ships - torpedo bombs.
Sometimes they pleasantly surprise. And sometimes they fall out of the blue
But I would not attribute these aircraft carriers to failures. But to success too.

[Tuzik]

And for reconnaissance, they also use expensive F-35Vs, is there any number of cheap charriers there?

[voyaka uh]

The F-35 is just perfect for reconnaissance. F-35 enemy radars can only be seen "point-blank" when reconnaissance has already been carried out. This quality - a scout - was discovered in our Air Force. Lockheed hadn't planned that.

[Tuzik]

It’s clear that you are rolling it for NATO in full, Lockheed will also have to pay extra. )

[voyaka uh]

It so happened that Israel began its first combat use. Although not the first to receive.
And pilots from Europe really come to us for seminars and exercises. The plane is very wound. You can, of course, use it 30% without any additional studies as the 4th generation ... but who wants to study.

[CentDo]

They should be ready for deployment in the event of a crisis within 30 days.

With such a "quick" response, one can be late for the war.

[yaros]

modern global war is a few hours of mutual missile strikes, aircraft carriers are needed for local conflicts with a weak rival ... if anyone remembers the Falkland conflict, there was a reality show, every day they watched on the telly how the squadron went across the Atlantic .... Argentina’s misfortune was that frankly weak sun were ....

[CentDo]

The question is what to call a quick response group a connection that will be ready for deployment only after 30 days (and how long will the deployment take?), It's just the finish.

[Catfish]

However, these "weak VS" were able to do something. And the victory was not so easy for the British.

Stills from that very Falkland reality show. In the photo Her Majesty's destroyer "Sheffield", the hull is made of an alloy of aluminum with magnesium and, as a result, everything burned out to the ground. The most interesting thing is that the majority of Argentine air-to-ship missiles "Exocet" (Fr.) did not explode when hit, and the death of British ships was the result of fires from the engines of the Argentinean missiles running to the end.

[Horse, people and soul]

The Exocet missiles have been activated by the NATO allies of Britain.

It seems like they all did not explode.

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

British NATO Allies Activated Bookmarks in Exocet Rockets

what kind of fables from conspiracy theorists? The exosets were sunk by the destroyer Sheffield, the supply vessel Atlantic conveyor (which caught two missiles) and the destroyer Glamorgan was seriously damaged. In the last two cases, warhead missiles worked very well.
By the way, Glamorgan burned no worse than Sheffield from being hit by a "flying fish", an explosion of ammunition and a ship's helicopter, but the destroyer (also made with the use of aluminum-magnesium alloys) was saved.

Some wrong bookmarks, don’t you? The missile should not have hit the target at all. And here - four hits from six starts. The remaining missiles were either shot down by means of air defense, or disoriented by means of shipborne electronic warfare systems.

And now is the time to remember the Argentine air bombs - their percentage of failures goes off scale, 80% (!) Of bombs that hit the target did not explode. Was there any American bookmarks in the free-falling cast iron, too? Or is it all about substandard fuses?

[boathouse]

UDC and amphibious helicopter carriers would be more suitable for "Rapid Reaction Forces".

[Grigory_45]

Quote: varadero

"Rapid Reaction Forces" would be more suitable for UDC and amphibious helicopter carriers

"Queen" is, in fact, a large landing aircraft carrier

[Valery Valery]

No one aircraft carrier does not transmit anywhere !!!

The author did not correctly interpret the words of Theresa May.
He, as was British and will remain, will simply act, including in the interests of NATO, like all the British armed forces.
It’s just that Teresa May at the end of her career increased the rate of licking of the fifth point of the American ally.

[Sergey39]

NATO (read the USA), in addition to the British aircraft carrier, also grabbed two more Japanese ones. That is, the United States gets THREE at its disposal! aircraft carrier at the expense of "allies"

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Sergey39

The US gets THREE at its disposal! aircraft carrier at the expense of "allies"

The United States, with a great desire, can get ALL ALL naval ships of the NATO countries. But this requires a very good reason.

As for the participation of the British Navy ships in NATO operations, this seems to follow from the Charter of the bloc and the policies pursued by London.
Nobody handed over the ship to anyone; as it went under the British flag, it will continue. Simply, if necessary, it will be reassigned to the Joint Command of the NATO forces.

By the way, the forces indicated in the article are not new. The states are just expanding.
The Very High Readiness Joint Task Force (VJTF) was created after the NATO summit in Newport in 2014. The group consists of a land brigade, air and sea support units, as well as special forces. In the summer of 2018, the countries of the Alliance decided to increase their rapid reaction forces by creating 30 new battalions, as well as allocating several hundred new fighters and ships.

[Sergey39]

What are we talking about. The ship remains formally in the ownership and maintenance of Britain, but it houses the US Marines and their own air wing under US command

[yaros]

C'mon 3 aircraft carriers 3 daggers, a big tasty target .... and no support ships will help.
Carriers are a relic of the last century, well, there is no protection from hypersonic maneuvering missiles yet they haven’t come up with, yet I agree to frighten Papuans .....

[Sergej1972]

Japan is not a member of NATO.

[Sergey39]

But the US vassal

[Horse, people and soul]

Member of NATO - only the United States. The rest of the NATO countries are flared asses.

[Catfish]

Sergey, where did Japan get its aircraft carriers from? Maybe I missed something, or I don't know something. As far as I remember, at the end of the Second World War, the Japanese were generally prohibited from building aircraft carriers. No, it is clear that all these prohibitions are ultimately "filkina gramota", but still ... If possible, the names of Japanese aircraft carriers, their performance characteristics and at least some photo.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Sea Cat

Sergey, how did Japan get aircraft carriers?

Can I answer? Japanese aircraft carriers appeared when they gathered to fight with the Chinese.

[Sergey39]

This refers to helicopter carriers, which are being rearranged under f35, under the strict guidance of amov

[Catfish]

Do you mean the ships of the Haruna type? Well, you can place F-ki there, but the whole question is not even how they will start, but how they will board this ship. True, I have not heard anything about such a project and it would be interesting to know. If you have information - share it.

[Sergey39]

I read about 3 days ago. Where I don’t remember.

[Horse, people and soul]

Somewhere the other day I saw a picture with the comparative sizes of aircraft carriers. Japanese was there, moreover, it was the smallest, great less "Kuzi".

[Waltasar]

It will not be transferred, but it will be allowed to be used for NATO purposes.
Deflection counted)

[Lord of the Sith]

Britain will give the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier to NATO

Britain will give

[Catfish]

Oh, how do you get them right so straight away, unconventional. Not tolerant, my friend.

[Horse, people and soul]

The paradox, however ... rear-wheel drive for some reason is called TRANSMISSIONS.



And where is it before?

A piece of humor.

[Evil 55]

like, "Take it, God, what is useless for us" ...

[yehat]

I do not believe in the generosity of the British, most likely they will leave control over Avik to themselves, but the costs of maintenance and operation will weigh on the EU.

[Sergey39]

Everything is exactly the opposite. The states will hang up spending on Britain, and the leadership is taken away. The United States has problems with its aircraft carriers. Only two on the go

[stels_07]

Britain will pass

[Horse, people and soul]

It will be given by those who invented from July 30, 1970 not to issue the naval cup to Roma anymore.

There are no rumi-no more royal fleets.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

There are no rumi-no more royal fleets.

What about the Boszman knife?

[Horse, people and soul]

But the pipe has remained!

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

But the pipe has remained!

No, here, I forgot. Somewhere in 1700, the sailors were banned from knives with sharp ends. All the edges broken.

[Horse, people and soul]

At the port of Cape Town with cocoa on board ... British sailors have already announced their Browning. And the French, judging by the plot, came to the shootout with knives ...

... after 200 years.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Horse, lyudovѣd and soulѣlyub

In the Cape Town port with cocoa on board ... British sailors have already announced with Browning.

Yes, no, I'm not talking about that. The British, so that the sailors did not cut each other decided to break off the tips of knives. I forgot what year it was.

[Horse, people and soul]

Here in the hands of Hannibal Lecter is a small knife with which he did his terrible deeds. Spiderco Harpy. And the yachtsman came up with it to quickly cut the ropes if necessary.

[TermNachTer]

So shy to ask who will pay for the banquet?