Shooting under water. DSG Technology and its cavitating bullet

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In 2017, DSG Technology from Norway introduced a self-developed cavitation bullet to the general public. The ammunition created by the Norwegian engineers allowed to confidently hit targets both on land and in water. This is very important if you consider that standard ammunition is able to fly several kilometers, but, once in the water, they cannot advance further than a few meters. The Norwegian 7,62-mm CAV-X bullet does not have this disadvantage.

Shooting under water. DSG Technology and its cavitating bullet




Norwegians have experienced a new cavitating bullet


At the end of May 2019, the Norwegians demonstrated the capabilities of a cavitating bullet in order to prove its effectiveness in practice. Now the DSG Technology company owns, albeit unofficial, but a record breaking through a special ballistic gel or gelatin, which the bullet successfully pierced before hitting the target, which this time used a watermelon. It is known that the new Norwegian 7,62-mm bullet was able to overcome four meters of ballistic gelatin. Ballistic gel or gelatin called special gelatinous materials that are designed to simulate the physical properties of the tissues of the human body, in fact, they replace the flesh. This material is widely used today in conducting tests of ammunition for rifle weapons, as well as explosive devices and mines, helping to pinpoint their destructive capabilities.



The cavitation-effect bullets presented back in 2017 use the same principle that was implemented in the Squall high-speed underwater torpedo missile developed in the late 1970s in the Soviet Union. Thanks to the use of the cavitation effect, the Norwegian bullet is able to more effectively hit objects located in the water. In order to once again confirm this statement and demonstrate the characteristics of the CAV-X munition, DSG Technology experts prepared a special video showing how the new 7,62-mm CAV-X bullet moves in a ballistic gel. As a comparison, there was a place on the video for a shot with the usual NATO cartridge caliber 7,62x51 mm. The standard for NATO automatic weapons bullet was able to overcome only half a meter of ballistic gelatin. In contrast to the conventional bullet, the new Norwegian cavitating bullet CAV-X was able to easily overcome four meters of ballistic gelatin, hitting a target located at the end of the distance. An important feature is the fact that the trajectory of the CAV-X bullet remained unchanged all the way to the target.

The watermelon, which portrayed the target in a ballistic gel tunnel, fell victim to a new CAV-X Norwegian cavitating ammunition. The bullets for this ammunition are made of tungsten and covered with a brass shell on top. Such a scheme allows the use of new cartridges and with standard samples of small arms of the Norwegian army. DSG Technology assured journalists that the new ammunition has a special bullet shape that allows the CAV-X not to ricochet off the water surface even at small meeting angles, forming a kind of air bubble around the bullet, from which another definition of the Norwegian bullet appeared. bullet from the bubble. The resulting air bubble allows the bullet to move in the aquatic environment with the lowest possible loss of speed, and the trajectory of the flight of the bullet remains unchanged over the entire effective firing range. The Norwegian developers have announced the following values ​​of the effective firing range for the new CAV-X cavitating ammunition. For cartridges of caliber 12,7 mm, these values ​​are equal to 2200 and 60 meters for air and water, respectively. The smaller CAV-X ammunition bullets, 5,56 mm and 7,62 mm, retain their effectiveness under water at a distance of 14 and 22 meters, respectively.

Cavitating bullet CAV-X and its features


It is known that ordinary modern weapons are able to fire under water, but not suitable for these purposes. There are a lot of explanations for this: from the fact that the weapon uses materials and the principle of operation, not intended for use in the aquatic environment, to the inertial resistance of the liquid and much greater than that of air density, which does not allow automation to quickly reload the weapon. In addition, the weapon can simply fail due to hydraulic shocks, and the contact with water is harmful to lubrication and can cause rust. Modern pistols and machine guns are simply not designed for use in such harsh environments. The same is true for bullets, which almost instantly lose their destructive power, becoming simply useless. Against this background, the film Rescue Private Ryan, in which Spielberg went to violate all the principles and laws of physics for the sake of spectacular shots, is indicative. When repelling a landing at the Omaha site, German machine-gunners effectively kill American soldiers under water, although ordinary bullets can not only ricochet off the water surface, but almost instantly lose their lethal force, changing the trajectory.

This behavior of conventional ammunition in water is easily explained by their aerodynamic shape, which makes the trajectory of the bullet under water almost unpredictable. According to experts, at the border of the water layers of different temperatures, the bullet can simply ricochet. Moreover, because of its shape, a bullet very quickly loses all of its energy, and with it, its destructive power, becoming a useless piece of metal. For this reason, it is extremely difficult to hit the enemy in water from conventional weapons; even a Kalashnikov assault rifle will not help when firing from a short distance. Another factor that does not allow efficient use of standard types of bullets under water is that ordinary bullets from lead with a tombaca shell can be deformed and simply collapse.


7,62-mm cartridge CAV-X


Life, as we know, is not cinema, so in many countries special armaments and special ammunition are being created for underwater shooting. Engineers of the Norwegian company DSG Technology turned to the creation of special bullets, the new ammunition was designated CAV-X. Cavitating Norwegian cartridges are distinguished by a conical shape, in contrast to the classic, lively shape. The CAV-X bullet tip is specially made thickened; after a bullet hits the water, it assumes the role of a cavitator, creating a so-called cavitation cavity around the bullet, which allows you to hit targets underwater at a distance that ordinary bullets cannot even dream of. CAV-X cavitating ammunition provides a bullet with the preservation of kinetic energy under water, while they are not much longer than the usual bullets of the same caliber.

The Norwegians have already presented the CAV-X line of ammunition in three main calibers of small arms: 5,56, 7,62 and 12,7 mm. In this case, the cavitating effect can be realized in large-caliber ammunition, up to artillery shells of 155-mm caliber. Another thing is that the methods of using such shells and the expediency of their use in practice raise a lot of questions. So far, it is not clear even with what weapons the new Norwegian CAV-X cartridges will be used, since conventional weapons are not suitable for underwater use without making changes to the design. Although no one forbids the Norwegians to use such bullets for firing at underwater objects from land, for example, to fight underwater swimmers and saboteurs. But this is a rather narrow niche, the military does not often encounter the need to destroy underwater objects from land, so it’s at least premature to talk about the massive purchases of Norwegian underwater firing equipment for underwater firing.


7,62-mm bullet CAV-X


Russian cavitating ammunition


Naturally, Russia has its own underwater shooting ammunition. A well-known example of small arms specially created in our country is the two-medium automatic automatic anti-sablastic gun. This rifle-grenade launcher complex can rightly be attributed to the outstanding examples of the national weapons school. Adopted in 2013 year, the machine, built using modern and popular layout scheme bullpup, equally effective against opponents on land and under water. Especially for shooting in the water for the ADS machine, they created PSP and PSP-UD cartridges in the standard caliber 5,45x39 mm for Russian automatic small arms.

Combat is the cartridge PSP, it is equipped with a bullet, which, as in the Norwegian cartridge CAV-X, is made of tungsten alloy. Training and combat cartridge PSP-UD equipped with a bronze bullet. Cavitating ammunition was specially created for use with the two-medium automatic ATC and proved its effectiveness when firing under water. The combat cartridge is distinguished by the presence of a special tungsten bullet with a mass of 16 grams, a standard steel sleeve of caliber 5,45x39 mm and a charge of gunpowder. In the Russian press it was possible to find information that the bullets of the PSP cartridge retain their destructive power at a distance of up to 25 meters when shooting at a depth of 5 meters. In this case, the energy of a tungsten bullet fired at a target at a specified depth, in 20 meters, is 167 J.


Cartridges for ADS


In fact, the secret to using special gunpowder and an unusual bullet, it is already clear from its weight that we are not in the usual ammunition. The shape of the PSP bullet resembles a needle, most of which is recessed in the sleeve. The length of the bullet - 53 mm, but due to the fact that most of the bullet is hidden in the case with gunpowder, the developers managed to keep within the dimensions of the standard Russian cartridge 5,45x39 mm. Another important feature is the presence at the tip of the PSP bullet a special flat platform. When firing under water, such a platform is necessary to create a cavitation cavity around the bullet, it is this that allows you to effectively hit targets separated from the 25 arrow with meters of water. It is worth noting that the training and combat cartridge of the PSP-UD is also distinguished by good characteristics, its bullet is made of bronze, but allows, if necessary, to hit objects under water that are up to 10 meters from the shooter.
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  1. +2
    4 June 2019 12: 10
    And on what principle does our submarine assault rifle and its ammunition work?
    1. -2
      4 June 2019 17: 51
      The principle of stabilization of a bullet in a cavitation cavity.
  2. 0
    4 June 2019 12: 46
    Why don't the norgs shoot underwater?
    1. -2
      4 June 2019 14: 04
      Quote: Amateur
      Why don't the norgs shoot underwater?

      According to herring?
      After all, they did not even find a Russian submarine. Not that a good target for underwater shooting.
  3. +1
    4 June 2019 12: 49
    Hmm, the ADF has a similar solution (small-sized cavitating bullet, with normal use in the air) and has been implemented for almost 10 years, which, in fact, is described at the end of the material ..
  4. +1
    4 June 2019 12: 54
    Unlike an ordinary bullet, the new Norwegian cavitating CAV-X bullet was able to easily overcome four meters of ballistic gelatin, hitting a target located at the end of the distance. An important feature is that the flight path of the CAV-X bullet remained unchanged all the way to the target.

    If this bullet flies 4 meters in gelatin, how much does it fly through the air? 10-15 kilometers?
    Such a bullet has enough kinetic energy to tear off a tower from a tank or shoot a caterpillar. This, of course, I greatly exaggerated, but nonetheless.
    Something very much it all looks like a lie!

    Specialists respond !!! What can you say about this device?
    1. +3
      4 June 2019 13: 16
      Good afternoon. I am not a specialist, but I talked with combat swimmers! drinks
      On this topic - there is an interesting article on VO dated 22.01.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX by Alexander Ivanov “Firearms of Fighting Swimmers” hi
    2. +3
      4 June 2019 13: 46
      If this bullet flies 4 meters in gelatin, how much does it fly through the air? 10-15 kilometers

      No, it will not fly. I’m never a specialist, but I think that the muzzle energy of a conventional and cavitating bullet is comparable.
      Here the question is different. The main task of a combat bullet against "soft" targets is to transfer its energy to the target. The so-called "stopping effect".
      Note the formation of a "pulsating" cavity in the gelatin when fired with a conventional bullet. Can you imagine what is going on in the human body with such a hit? Contusion and destruction of internal organs.
      CAV-X just flashes the ballistic gel like an awl, without transferring its energy to it.
      So when shooting at enemy’s manpower in the air it will simply not be effective.
      Yes, and against protected goals, too.
      Quite a narrow purpose, well, a demonstrator of opportunities.
      1. +1
        4 June 2019 15: 35
        most likely the cavitation bullet in the body will begin to change its flight path (somersault), because the body is not a ballistic gel and it is not homogeneous (the presence of bones, harder tissues and softer ones), the damage caused at close distances will be more likely than from an ordinary bullet
        1. +2
          4 June 2019 15: 55
          maybe you need to test. Typically, a watermelon is also just a hole. And from an ordinary bullet, it usually scatters.
    3. +2
      4 June 2019 13: 47
      I got a special cartridge from SPP-1 winked COMMANDER - by chance seeing him ... said a lot of words, exceptionally indecent am !!! Took away crying threw his outboard - Promising the next time - charge Me in RBU ... and send to the Chinese! belay I feel - I wouldn’t fly from the Black Sea! Yes, and why? Well then - I'm to blame .... The Chinese have something to do with it ??? recourse
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        4 June 2019 14: 58
        About 15 years ago, the girlfriend’s mother took out 30 rounds of ammunition from an APS submarine from the closet, and asked if you don’t need this? I’m in complete shock, I say throw it away, but it’s better to bury and do not say a word to anyone, maybe they’re still lying in the closet
    4. -1
      4 June 2019 14: 01
      Firstly, the front of the bullet should not have a flat platform. Secondly, there is a relative dimension of the radius of this site and the radius and length of the bullet. And thirdly, the principle of the bullet being turned into the environment is not implemented. In general, I wrote a long time ago that the pointed parts of aircraft and bullets and others are areas of increased tension of magnetic interactions. So you need to use it, and not fight it. Here is the technology to overcome the resistance of the flight environment. Before the technology of using this resistance is still far
    5. +3
      4 June 2019 14: 03
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      If this bullet flies 4 meters in gelatin, how much does it fly through the air? 10-15 kilometers?
      Something very much it all looks like a lie!

      Not at all. She is, strictly speaking, flying NOT in gelatin (more precisely, ballistic gel). Not really in it, but in the air bubblewhich itself, thanks to the forward air pushed, by the high pressure area and pushes this gelatin right in front of the bullet itself. But of course, considerable energy is also spent on this.
      In the same way, our Flurry works, and the article mentioned this. A flurry under water of 300 km / h develops speed. But he walks NOT in water, but in an underwater air bubble.
      1. +2
        4 June 2019 15: 32
        Quote: Kuroneko
        Our Flurry works the same way.
        Not certainly in that way. "Shkval" has a special nozzle in the bow, with the help of which this cavitation cavity is produced. The bullet doesn't have that.
        1. 0
          4 June 2019 15: 40
          Quote: Herrr
          Not certainly in that way. "Shkval" has a special nozzle in the bow, with the help of which this cavitation cavity is produced. The bullet doesn't have that.

          Well, how is it not?
          The tip of the CAV-X bullet is specially thickened, after the bullet enters the water, it takes on the role of a cavitator, creating around the bullet the so-called cavitation cavity, which allows you to hit targets underwater at a distance

          All the same. It's just that at the Flurry, the cavitator is more complicated, because and sizes, mass and propulsion, as well as launch conditions, are different.
          1. +2
            4 June 2019 16: 09
            "Not quite so" because in fact cavitator the bullet doesn’t, but the torpedo has it. With a special gas generator. smile
            Better watch the video.
    6. 0
      4 June 2019 15: 23
      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      If this bullet flies 4 meters in gelatin, how much does it fly through the air? 10-15 kilometers?
      The ADS has an aiming range of 600 meters in the air. I think that the bullet of our special cartridge of the PSP type will fly 2 kilometers. In the water, ours again beats a little further than the Norwegian novelty. Therefore, in the air, the "Norwegian" clearly cannot fly for 3 kilometers while maintaining destructive power. smile
      1. 0
        4 June 2019 22: 57
        The PSP bullet is long - it can lose stabilization simply from strong side winds.
        1. 0
          5 June 2019 07: 08
          Quote: Horse, people and soul
          The PSP bullet is long - it can lose stabilization simply from strong side winds.
          Even necessarily lose stability, but only after sufficient inhibition for this in the atmosphere and, consequently, with the loss of kinetic energy. At the initial stage of flight, this cannot happen until it touches the surface of a solid or liquid. smile
    7. +1
      4 June 2019 17: 55
      There is as much energy there as in a regular cartridge of the same caliber. The case is in the form of a bullet. A flat area at the end of the bullet creates a cavitation cavity in the gelatin, pushes the gelatin in front of the bullet and it does not come into contact with the gelatin after entering it. A bullet flies inside an air cavity inside gelatin. Because so much flies.
      1. +3
        4 June 2019 21: 46
        Hello my friend! hi The first time I saw the ammunition from our underwater pistol (sleeve and bullet separately) in the summer of the 78th in Sevastopol. The capsule, naturally, was pierced, but the bullet was most struck, not only by its length, but by the fact that it was just a solid piece of metal, and even without a magnifying glass, traces of processing on a lathe were visible. I understand that it sounds frivolous, but our specialists showed from the base at the Konstantinovsky ravelin. There they had a pair of boats with the bow always in canvas, and next to the pier a fenced aviary for dolphins. Naturally, I was not at their place, we talked at the VUTs in the Quarantine Bay.
        1. 0
          4 June 2019 23: 03
          but the bullet was most struck, not only by its length, but by the fact that it was just a solid piece of metal, and even without a magnifying glass, traces of processing on a lathe were visible.


          So it should be in a state that is doing its best to minimize the cost of a future war. Steel sleeves - for the same reason.

          War is not just two at the parade in plaid skirts without pants and bagpipes. The war is, above all, a colossal burden on the economy and resources.

          Why polish a bullet if it just flies a few tens of meters under water from a lathe?

          drinks
          1. +2
            4 June 2019 23: 58
            The guys also talked about a special "dolphin" pistol for this particular cartridge. A muzzle is put on the dolphin's snout, from which instead of a tusk sticks out a barrel already loaded with a single cartridge. At the instructor's command, the dolphin searches for a target (enemy combat swimmer), finds it, swims up and pokes with the barrel, the spring-loaded barrel goes back and pulls the trigger - a shot occurs. The skiff is to the enemy, and the dolphin returns to the instructor and receives a well-deserved reward. The guys said that they each had their own favorite treat, I mean dolphins, of course. And with the guys we blew an awl under mussel pilaf - a luxurious snack.
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  6. +2
    4 June 2019 13: 58
    And what is the visibility in the water - why shoot farther than you see ...
    1. +3
      4 June 2019 16: 54
      Depending on the reservoir - from zero request up to 60m (in the Red Sea). fellow
    2. +3
      4 June 2019 23: 49
      Depending on where to shoot, in the Black Sea, for example, in sunny weather and at twenty meters of depth, visibility is at least where. And in another pond you will not see your own finger attached to the nose.
  7. +3
    4 June 2019 14: 16
    ... because of its shape, the bullet very quickly loses all its energy, and with it the destructive power, becoming a useless piece of metal.
  8. 0
    4 June 2019 16: 55
    Judging by the photos, for ADS bullets are sub-calibrated (in plastic pallets).
  9. +4
    4 June 2019 21: 16
    The methods of creating a cavitation cavity for the CAV-X bullet and the Shkval torpedo are different:
    - the bullet cavitation cavity is created hydrodynamically due to the flat nasal tip;
    - in a torpedo, a cavitation cavity is created gas-dynamically due to the release of gases from the reaction of magnesium and water in the nose gas generator (a flat nose tip, equipped with a power drive, serves not to cavitate, but to control the direction of torpedo movement).

    In principle, it is possible to create a torpedo with a flat nasal tip and control the direction of motion due to the deviation of the thrust vector of the jet nozzle.
    1. -1
      4 June 2019 23: 11
      flat nose equipped with a power drive, serves not for cavitation, but to control the direction of movement of the torpedo


      It seems like a Flurry - the torpedo is not controlled. They shoot it, as in the Second World War in anticipation and speed of the target. Range of up to 10 km.
      1. +1
        5 June 2019 09: 17
        "Shkval" M5 is not a self-guided torpedo, but quite controlled on the chosen course using a gyroscope and a drive plane in the nose.

        Developed "Shkval" M6 - self-guided with a magnetometer.
        1. 0
          5 June 2019 09: 44
          Induced, in theory, maybe at least by the will of Allah. How to control a rocket flying in an air bubble? Therefore, it flies in a straight line, like simple torpedoes of World War II. Only flies fast.

          request
          1. +3
            5 June 2019 16: 58
            Only bullets and shells fly along a "straight" (ballistic trajectory). The FDA and WWII torpedoes moved in a straight line thanks to the gyroscope and drive rudders (horizontal and vertical), otherwise they were blown off course by sea waves.

            At the end of WWII, torpedoes appeared with additional homing devices on target noise (hydrophones) or on the electromagnetic field of a target (magnetometers).

            "Shkval" M5 is controlled by changing the position of the nasal disc

            1. 0
              5 June 2019 17: 00
              Another thing!

              Thanks for the patient clarification!

              drinks

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