Report of the Colorado Cockroach. I and your Moscow

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“What an interesting city, isn't it?”
Azazello moved and replied respectfully:
- Messire, I like Rome better!
“Yes, this is a matter of taste,” answered Woland.
M. A. Bulgakov, "The Master and Margarita"


Report of the Colorado Cockroach. I and your Moscow




Greetings to you, my dear friends and "fellow soldiers"! Today, probably for the first time in the years of our communication, I thought about how to start notes. On the one hand, I understand that for most readers I am an adequate "Square Ukrainian", who understands into what abyss of terrible reality we sganuli from all over the place. For the other part I am a victim of the propaganda of the Ukrainian government. There are those for whom I am a hidden, intelligent enemy who is trying to turn you to his side.

Maybe in order to please supporters of the "enemy theory", you should start as in spy novels?

“In the early spring holiday morning, an imposing young man with a kind face came out of the doors of the Kievsky railway station of the capital. Like most of the passengers who had just arrived in Moscow for some business, he carried a sports bag with simple belongings on his shoulder and turned his head searching for a public transport stop. And only a sharp look from under the thorny eyebrows betrayed him as a cruel and cunning enemy ... "



Most of you, dear readers, have already understood what the notes will be about today. Yes, the "hole in time" during which you did not see me or read me, was caused precisely by the fact that I did what I hinted more recently in my notes. I participated in the "Immortal Regiment" with my grandfather 9 May 2019 of the year! We first went to Moscow in the winners! I and grandfather! With your fellow soldiers passed! And even with awards! Those from the past life. From the USSR ...

I will tell you the impression ... For many years of my life I have not experienced such an upswing of vitality and such courage. Remember the words of one of the characters of the film "Belarus Station"?

“You see, I suddenly for a moment felt like at the front. Everything is clear, here is the enemy, near his, and our cause is just. ”

Better than a war veteran Papanova not say. Exactly! Our cause is right! And near his own.

I remembered that I would need to tell you about my voyage later. The next day. I was not sure that Russians would be interested in Moscow through the eyes of a Ukrainian. Although, honestly, I didn’t have a goal to remove your capital from a certain angle.

I just walked around places known and unknown to me and clicked the camera where I wanted to. Often not even interested in what it is, where I am and with which historical it is connected with events. I think Muscovites will recognize their city and say what and where.

I'll start with the transport. This is the first thing that stunned me in Moscow. Do not believe it, but the first blow to the nerves struck the bus! Yes, a simple city bus. And I saw him "alive" not in the center, but at the Tsaritsyno metro station. You know, such an industrial area. Without pump and tourist gadgets.









Crouching buses impressed. So that I, my beloved, did not strain my leg to lift up, but walked straight. Well, do not bow and do not curse the doors of curtsy.

It is also indicative that you will not just enter the Moscow bus. I mean, if you're an honest person. Need a special card "Troika". I, however, a little stupid. I bought this "Three" in the form of a credit card. And the youth of Moscow uses trinkets "Troika". Cool.

Moscow trams were also killed. I did not dare to ride them. I know this rail vehicle. Deliver the hell out of place and then get out into civilization. But apparently not a tram, but a high-speed train. We have worse express trains in Boryspil. And again, low-low. Probably, Muscovites have already forgotten how to lift their legs high. Infected.



But on a Moscow bike, I ride. Yes, really, Moscow is a city of cyclists and cyclists. And it is not necessary to have your own bike. At each corner there are special racks with bicycles. Well, or almost everyone.



Scooters are generally Moscow. From very young children to the elderly. And scooters are ordinary. In the sense of half food, and half go. And most of the civilized, Moscow, with an electric motor. Again, I do not know what they are called. By the form of a scooter, but in fact a moped of some kind. And worn quickly so.

Carsharing, of course, yes, developed very strongly. With this we are much weaker, only the punishments from the Hetman, that is, the Hetmancar. But there is. Mastering.













But all this stuff, which is not worth paying attention to, compared to the new Moscow transport. I can not even say it. Underground? Not. Railway? Also no. In short, a hybrid of some kind. And judging by the emblems at the entrance, Muscovites also do not really understand what it is. I am about the Moscow Central Transport Ring (ISC). Simply put, about the ring railway.

Mokritsa these Muscovites tickle. The hybrid train of the future, aircraft, subway and long-distance bus.



I want this in Kiev too. Here you and speed. And comfort. And the opportunity to eat like on a plane. Even places for these bicycles are provided.



True, I'm a little bit in this train pierced. Then the whole run-up of the little girls giggled on the adjacent chairs. In short, I decided to get off at Luzhniki. The train stopped. I'm to the door. And she does not open, her mum's lice. And it is in Moscow! And people enter, go to the next door. In short, made a face face, and did not seem to want to go out, and drove on.

Do not believe it, I found out at the next stop, when I joined the group leaving, there, in order for the doors to open, you need to press a button! From the inside, if going out. Outside, if you enter. Moscow is not designed for a simple Ukrainian! I'm not a member of the "What, where, when" game. Not a connoisseur. It is genetically in me that the public transport doors open and close, regardless of my desire!

In short, I decided to go back by train. It is calmer somehow. More familiar. Well, can not Railways greatly differ from Ukrzaliznytsy. Yeah. Ran away. Maybe it turns out.





First ticket. I have not seen controllers in Moscow. Nowhere. You can probably ride a hare, but I, due to some innate fear, try to pay for everything. Honest and calmer turns out. In short, gave me a ticket machine. Centimeters 15-20 long. I put it in another machine, at the entrance, and went to the platform.

And here comes the ... air express. In a sense, the train from Domodedovo airport. Two-story. And instead of the emblem of the manufacturer of the train star of five aircraft. Comfort. Beauty. Indeed, express.

I just after I sat down in the "normal" train, I realized that in Moscow they cherish the psyche of air passengers. The plane has a cabin with a fairly low ceiling. Here and in these express trains it is so made. It seems to be already on the ground, and the feelings of the aircraft. Well and vice versa. Fly away and while you go to the airport already got used to the cramped cabin. Preparation, damn it!





Interestingly, pleasure boats also copy BDK, or what? Sorry, did not have time to check, only looked from the side ...





But on this adventure is not over. That's what makes a normal, law-abiding citizen after arriving at the desired station? Right. Citizen throws garbage in the trash. Garbage, in the sense of a used ticket. I wanted to be normal ...



Even raised his hand over the urn. I was saved by an innate eye. Something, judging by the contents of the urn, was not normal among Muscovites. Only smokers. In short, I did not throw away a ticket. And rightly so! This enemy of the human race and the cockroach, I’m talking about a machine at the exit, from the station without a ticket does not release! We have to put a ticket into his mouth again, and he opens the turnstile. Well, some kind of crap, if so.

Something did not work for me today to tell you about Moscow. Impressions of the sea, emotions of the sea. A place in the puddle of notes. How to fit the sea in a puddle? How to tell about the city so that everyone can understand and be interesting? Where to put your own emotions?

Well nothing. Actually, I liked it. Of course, having seen Belgorod and Voronezh, I understand that oh how far Moscow is from them. But to write about our reality is becoming more and more sad. Especially after such blows on the psyche, which is Moscow Mayskaya Holidays. Well, honestly, hard to realize.















All for today. Anticipating the comments of some of our readers, I’ll go and give my bank account number to the Kremlin and to ... and the devil knows where Sobyanin sits, in short, to the Moscow government. For advertising, they say, big money pays. And I really need money today. Prices in Moscow are exorbitant. We can live for free here.

But I tell you, it turned out I feel like if not a Master, then at least Hippo. Yes, sometimes it was something to set fire to or how to flatter. From the everlasting Ukrainian harmfulness. But - resist.

In general, I liked it. What is in the center, that on the outskirts. There is something like that ...











До скорой, я надеюсь, встречи. Да, и напоследок. Я понял, почему москвичи так празднуют День Победы. Для них каждый год наступает 9 мая 1945 года! Судя по тому, сколько строек я видел даже в центре города. Страну восстанавливать надо после тяжелой the war. Особенно, это уже по словам самих москвичей, сильно страдает тротуарная плитка в Москве. Ежегодно меняют. Да не по одному разу...

Good luck to everyone and only good days. Let life be diverse and interesting. Let the children laugh. And relatives will always be with you. Will live!
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    1. 14+
      3 June 2019 15: 25
      Less, maybe, Muscovites in large quantities need to be taken on excursions in the province, so that they believe that there is life behind the Moscow Ring Road too? ??
      1. 16+
        3 June 2019 15: 55
        Quote: Thrifty
        Less, maybe, Muscovites in large quantities need to be taken on excursions in the province, so that they believe that there is life behind the Moscow Ring Road too? ??

        It is necessary to haul not Muscovites to the provinces, but the leaders of the state and the government, as well as the heads of the subjects of the federation to Moscow, without attendants and mistresses, at work and poking my nose with the question why you are not so good in Moscow!
        1. 11+
          3 June 2019 16: 57
          and poke his nose with the question why you are not so like in Moscow!

          laughing Because we have dirt and factories, and plant management, banks and taxes are in Moscow. Scrap from the master's table rejoice.

          "Recall that at the end of last year, Moscow donated 11 cars to Nizhny Novgorod. Three of them were not subject to restoration, so they were used for spare parts for the remaining eight ..
          “Now, unfortunately, we don’t have the financial resources to buy new trams.
          In general, this is the right decision, which led to the fact that for 716 thousand rubles we received eight cars, many of which are in better condition than those that are now in our park, ”Panov said.
          1. +3
            4 June 2019 14: 14
            Unfortunately, even these retired trams are better than those that we walk in Nizhny, and it is embarrassing to get the leftovers from the master's table, and the authorities are still proud of it and betraying it as caring for the people ...
        2. -1
          4 June 2019 18: 07
          Because Sobyanin manages in Moscow. He would be back in Tyumen to return!))
          Under Luzhkov, this was not observed.
      2. Ska
        0
        4 June 2019 08: 08
        Muscovites already know that there is a life behind the Moscow Ring Road, along clogged transport.
      3. 0
        4 June 2019 13: 44
        Muscovites have dachas in the province, often outside the MO, and the MO itself is also a province.
    2. +2
      3 June 2019 15: 26
      Quote: Less
      And this is a reportage from another planet ...

      Kiev is now another planet.
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 21: 20
        So the conversation is not about Kiev, but about Moscow ... This is the "other" planet .. "where is your government!?" .. "So they are on another planet .. there are even butterflies .." Danelia, Ph.D. "Kin Dza Dza"
        1. 0
          3 June 2019 21: 24
          Quote: 210ox
          So the conversation is not about Kiev, but about Moscow ...

          And writes from Kiev (Tarakan Okoloradsky)
          1. 0
            3 June 2019 21: 27
            Yes, by and large, the majority of our fellow citizens do not care what is there in Kiev. We are busy with what is happening with us, how we live, how to feed our families.
            1. 0
              3 June 2019 21: 30
              Quote: 210ox
              Yes, by and large, the majority of our fellow citizens do not care what is there in Kiev.

              I agree, as events on another planet, wrote about it.
      2. 0
        3 June 2019 23: 05
        In Milan, in the subway there are no drivers on the train at all, but there is a huge windshield in which you can watch and see the whole tunnel lit. As a ride on the carousel, honestly.
  2. -4
    3 June 2019 15: 22
    You are very impressed by something, dear guest. Many things in Moscow did not make an impression on me at all when I was there in November. And even terribly annoying, especially that the MCC and the metro need different tickets, since they belong to different organizations. Russian Railways and the metro. Many fenced off courtyards. I was surprised by the elevator shaft attached to the five-story building, or rather the mine. Apparently the tenants decided so. And all this is in the center of Moscow, Delovoy Tsentr metro station. Now in the summer, it probably looks more and more pretty. The greens are fresher. There are too many guest workers. With regard to tiles and asphalt, asphalt is probably more practical and preferable to tiles in many places. And of course the historical center is small, it is always licked in any city.
    PS I was back in Perm, somehow annoying foreign signs with the words "lounge, loft, barber shop, hostel, beauty room", and the like.
    PPS And also a predatory tow truck is on duty near the "Expocentre", parking is prohibited there, and he immediately, like a crab, climbs out of the shelter and loads the car of another careless poor fellow with his predatory claws.
    1. +8
      3 June 2019 15: 31
      Quote: Altona
      Something you are very impressed, dear guest.

      In fact, almost all cities in Russia still grow and grow to the amount "thrown" into the capital.
      Hence, a somewhat pretentious luxury, and a certain arrogance in relation to "newcomers" and entirely to the regions of Russia.

      In general, the eternal: Is there life outside the Moscow Ring Road? ?
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 15: 34
        Quote: Separ DNR
        Hence, a somewhat pretentious luxury, and a certain arrogance in relation to "newcomers" and regions of Russia.

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        In Moscow, City, rich in Moscow, there are plastic trees, in my impoverished Volga town, old poplars were cut down and blue trees were planted in front of the stadium.
        1. +1
          3 June 2019 15: 36
          Quote: Altona
          In Moscow, City, rich in Moscow, there are plastic trees, in my impoverished Volga town, old poplars were cut down and blue trees were planted in front of the stadium.

          I, after all, is not about that ... And in general, the rich (naturally, not spiritually) have their own quirks.
          1. +4
            3 June 2019 15: 46
            Quote: Separ DNR
            I, after all, is not about that ... And in general, the rich (naturally, not spiritually) have their own quirks.

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            By the way, I won't tell you about people. People in Moscow are normal, not as harsh as in Chelyabinsk. I lived in Moscow for 6 years, so my "muscle" memory immediately remembered how to communicate and turn on natural charm. In general, people like people, snobs I did not come across. In general, people seem to have missed something human. Everyone called to sit and drink. I mean the exhibition. laughing laughing
            1. +1
              3 June 2019 15: 47
              Quote: Altona
              All called to sit and pobukhat. I'm talking about the exhibition.

              Need to understand artistic? laughing
              1. +5
                3 June 2019 15: 50
                Quote: Separ DNR
                Need to understand artistic?

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                Not a small mechanization and tool. We went with our products. He started to work with Krasnodar, they poured all the wines to me. In general, Krasnodar and Perm citizens have become like one people practically, only the words are different. laughing laughing
                1. 0
                  3 June 2019 15: 52
                  Quote: Altona
                  Krasnodar and Perm citizens became like one people practically, only speaking differently.

                  By the way, I didn’t want the commentary to give the impression that I somehow divided people and nations.
                  It's about people "spoiled by the housing problem".
        2. +2
          3 June 2019 15: 50
          Quote: Altona
          In rich Moscow in Moscow City there are plastic trees

          Do you remember how it was before? The writing on the wall is "toilet". And an arrow. Once I walked along these arrows for about a kilometer until I found a toilet.
      2. +1
        3 June 2019 16: 02
        Quote: Separ DNR
        all the cities of Russia still grow and grow to the amount "thrown" into the capital.

        as soon as these cities grow to 14-18 million so immediately!
        1. +1
          3 June 2019 16: 04
          Quote: NEOZ
          as soon as these cities grow to 14-18 million so immediately!

          Your words would be in God's ears and to all Russians (Russian women wink ).
      3. +1
        3 June 2019 19: 57
        In fact, almost all cities of Russia still grow and grow
        ,,, there is one town feel
    2. +3
      3 June 2019 15: 34
      At the expense of the ICC, view of the ticket one from the subway, by a simple Troika, free transfers from one to another
      1. +2
        3 June 2019 15: 38
        Quote: skinar
        At the expense of the ICC, view of the ticket one from the subway, by a simple Troika, free transfers from one to another

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        Yes, we did not understand the 4 of the day and used ordinary maps. As for the train itself, it’s nice that inside the car there are information displays, and the car is comfortable of course.
    3. +3
      3 June 2019 15: 48
      Quote: Altona
      especially that in the MCC and the metro there are different tickets, as they belong to different organizations.

      in general, one .... you were definitely in Moscow?
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 15: 52
        Quote: NEOZ
        in general, one .... you were definitely in Moscow?

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        Well, where else? You leave the subway and at the entrance to the ICC spend new ticket. That's all. Or a new cancellation of tickets for 10 trips, for example.
        1. +1
          3 June 2019 17: 41
          Strange.
          I occasionally encounter a failure on a transplant when an extra trip is written off, but in the normal mode it counts as one.
    4. +2
      3 June 2019 15: 56
      Quote: Altona
      in the MCC and the subway need different tickets

      Actually, this is not true. You can travel one ticket first by metro, then by the ICC, and again by metro - and spend only one trip (if the ticket is for trips, and not in wallet mode).

      Quote: Altona
      I was surprised by the elevator shaft, attached to the five-story building, or rather mine.

      Well, these are all damned Bolsheviks, glass tongues with elevators in the sixties appeared, however, usually there are more floors.

      Quote: Altona
      Was still in Perm, somehow annoying foreign signs with the words "lounge, loft, barber shop, hostel, beauty room"

      So it is such a Russian language now. We already have a lot of straights with avenues and highways, and as if in the subway and on the ICC, the names are distorted - in general, the song ...
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 16: 54
        Quote: kakvastam
        Actually, this is not true. You can travel one ticket first by metro, then by the ICC, and again by metro - and spend only one trip (if the ticket is for trips, and not in wallet mode).

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        I don’t know about your "truth", with my untruth at every change they made a write-off everywhere.
        1. +2
          3 June 2019 17: 19
          This means that you did not buy a ticket for any number of trips, but put money on the "three", in this case you will be charged money with every change. A common mistake.
          1. 0
            4 June 2019 16: 06
            In the wallet transfer mode is also free. So the big question is what exactly he bought.
          2. 0
            5 June 2019 22: 21
            If several people travel on the same ticket, then only one will get a free transfer; the rest will be taken off the trip.
            1. +1
              6 June 2019 13: 07
              So after all, Erzhede with a meter is like Pepsi: "Better buy your package!"
      2. 0
        3 June 2019 17: 07
        Quote: kakvastam
        Well, these are all damned Bolsheviks, glass tongues with elevators in the sixties appeared, however, usually there are more floors.

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        No, a standard house in Moscow at the end of the last century is a 16-storey building, there is an elevator by itself. And this I saw a 5-storey Khrushchev building of the early 1970s, to which the elevator shafts were added with bay windows, which according to the project should not be. This revelation was of course. And the impression was that we were in some very uncomfortable place. There was only one normal store, the Afimall Central Department Store, though with prices not for provincials for many goods. And of course there is an abundance of Asians around as counter and cleaning workers.
        1. +1
          3 June 2019 17: 23
          Quote: Altona
          we were in some very uncomfortable place

          Well, "Moskvocytes" are really another place with catacombs. And the beauty is simply indescribable ...
    5. +1
      3 June 2019 17: 11
      elevator shaft, attached to the five-story building, or rather mine.
      There is nothing surprising, Moscow is an old city, first a house was built, and later endcale years SNIP (54.13330 Joint Venture) was adopted, where it was clearly written in which houses the elevator should be installed, therefore, in the houses where it was not, they installed remote elevators.
    6. 0
      3 June 2019 20: 47
      And even terribly annoying, especially that there are different tickets in the ISC and the metro, as they belong to different organizations. Railways and subway.

      Was in February. Single ticket "Moscow transport". I bought "unlimited" for 3 days (about 500 rubles) and deceived the whole "Moscow transport". Dashed off, the number of "exits and entrances" exceeded the amount I paid.
    7. 0
      3 June 2019 21: 52
      There was never a separate ticket to the ICC. Since the start.
    8. 0
      3 June 2019 22: 49
      Eugene, Metropolitan - is Russian Railways. No different tickets. By Troika you can ride on all Moscow transport, except for minibuses - tram, trolleybus, bus, subway, MCC. In addition, when transferring from the metro to the MCC, there is no need to pay extra - the ticket is valid 90 min. hi
      1. Ska
        0
        4 June 2019 08: 26
        Metro is Railways. Somewhere on the ruble, Dmitry Pegov awoke in a cold sweat
    9. Ska
      0
      4 June 2019 08: 19
      In mtsk and metro different tickets! ??? And how long?? And nothing that when transferring from mtsk to the metro and from the metro to mtsk is not enough that the ticket is the same, they also give a discount .... And the fact that mtsk is Russian Railways is generally nonsense. I am amazed . Complete lack of knowledge about Moscow, for commenting on three pages
      1. 0
        4 June 2019 12: 33
        Dear Ivpaty. What was written on many metro stations from the very beginning? That's right - the USSR Ministry of Railways. And only in 90-e (and more precisely in 1992 year) there was a division of the companies. Formally, organizations are different. In fact, the MCC uses the routes of the Moscow Ring Railway. Today, questions about the incorporation of Russian Railways 50% MSC are being considered. The metro is expanding and will affect the roads of Russian Railways - no escape from it. I think that sooner or later the Moscow metro will return to the fold of Russian Railways. Whether it will be shareholding or a joint venture - we'll see. Russian Railways - development of railway stations and the Moscow Metro State Unitary Enterprise on a parity basis will create a joint JSC Russian Railways - RV - Metro, which will receive the rights to reconstruct metro stations, as well as the development and development of adjacent territories. "Currently, SUE Metropolitan is solving financial and organizational issues related to entering the company's authorized capital." This is from the press. So what about nonsense you for nothing. Without Railways, MM will simply choke. And, by the way, about Dmitry Vladimirovich Pegove. Why should he wake up in a cold sweat? An excellent engineer and manager, built the ISC, returned to the Russian Railways with a raise. Thought you understand? RZD is building facilities of the ISC and MM, and not vice versa. And yet, for common development, all trains of the ISC are officially suburban trains and belong to whom? That's right - Railways. And Moscow pays for the service of the ISC also Russian Railways. Something like this. hi
        1. Ska
          0
          4 June 2019 17: 12
          Hmmm interesting. Written too abstruse for my school brain destroyed USE. Well, this means that you can explain to me why some stations are owned and maintained by MM, and some by Russian Railways? I know the answer, the teacher explained, but I would also like to hear your opinion. request
  3. +5
    3 June 2019 15: 28
    Byval.Planet Moscow.Planet that way on the plane and immediately another world, starting from the airport.Humanoids live.The grass is green.The sky is blue.The taxi drivers are calling you. But public transport is better. It is cheaper.The prices are surprising. and then driven to the province. smile
  4. -14
    3 June 2019 15: 45
    Outside the Moscow Ring Road salaries are several times less than in the DS. It's true. But keep in mind that every resident of the castle has a vegetable garden and household farming. Slaughtered a pig, dug up the kartokh, here is the food. Residents of the castle feed from the gardens, grow poultry and livestock. Therefore, they need money only for clothing and utilities. So it was quite fair to set them lower salaries than in the Capital, where you have to buy including food.
    1. +4
      3 June 2019 15: 54
      Quote: vasilii
      Residents of the castle feed from the gardens, grow poultry and livestock.

      --------------------
      Yes, not so cheap to grow cattle, many refused.
    2. -10
      3 June 2019 18: 24
      Quote: vasilii
      Residents of the castle feed from the gardens, grow poultry and livestock.

      And still zamkadom make cars and gasoline, so the inhabitants of the castle do not need to spend money on cars and gasoline.
      1. -3
        3 June 2019 18: 42
        Just as a resident of the capital need to visit cultural institutions and buy a car. While in small cozy towns, everything is close to each other.
  5. +6
    3 June 2019 15: 46
    Even Tarakan surprised. Arriving in Moscow, the first thing you see Kyrgyz with carts. Leaving the station, the Armenians sparkle their teeth with gold, and ask for a taxi for almost the minimum wage.
    1. 0
      4 June 2019 16: 09
      You probably have not been to Moscow for a long time.
    2. 0
      5 June 2019 22: 25
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      asking for a taxi almost the minimum wage.

      They have a clear focus on provincial savages. All competent people order through applications, it turns out not much more expensive than aeroexpress.
      1. 0
        5 June 2019 22: 27
        Quote: rzzz
        They have a clear focus on provincial savages.

        I had one reaction - in the face to plant him.
  6. +1
    3 June 2019 16: 05
    And you come to us in Kazakhstan, Koloradich! And in Almaty and Astana (sorry, the city was renamed, I was somehow not used to it), you can also see a lot
  7. +1
    3 June 2019 16: 58
    I did not like Moscow rats, during the day they run wild and brazen.
    1. 0
      3 June 2019 19: 36
      Ha, ha! And non-Moscow like? They are arrogant everywhere and everywhere laughing
  8. +4
    3 June 2019 17: 08
    and I will say this - Moscow is the capital, and should make everyone happy, and different from everyone
    Yes, our Belgorod is not Moscow, in terms of level, but in time it will be tightened to even more acceptable.
    and the question is, here's what, all taxes are collected in Moscow, both literally and figuratively ... will be collected by region, regional centers will also be improved ...
    but ... this is for DAM, he is a great economist with us .... just like that ....

    Cockroach, you are our dear, in St. Petersburg were not?
    1. +2
      3 June 2019 17: 13
      Quote: The Stoker
      Cockroach, you are our dear, in St. Petersburg were not?

      ---------------------
      If in Peter, then it is necessary right now, while the white nights are still. laughing
      1. -1
        4 June 2019 10: 10
        Quote: Altona
        If in Peter, then it is necessary right now, while the white nights

        would have thrown off a photo, I haven’t been in your city for a long time, 4 of the year I studied there ....
    2. +2
      3 June 2019 17: 32
      Quote: The Stoker
      Moscow is the capital, and should make everyone happy

      It is of course, but the agglomeration has simply grown to indecency, the people very often get to work for two hours for two hours - and this is within the city, and how many from the suburbs they dangle, or they work at all on a rotational basis ... This is what I mean people, and not all of them are delighted with what developers and road builders are doing with their hometown once ...

      No, you are giving the capital in Khabarovsk, and we will survive here somehow without a seasonal replacement of tiles if taxes start to pay at the place of production. All the benefits will be greater, and then in Moscow, it seems, some financiers and programmers remained.
      1. +1
        3 June 2019 18: 36
        Razocharuyu.Est doctors, teachers, workers (yes, yes! There is.), Engineers. For a long time to list all categories of residents of Moscow. And Gaster really very much!, But comrades dear! This is the fate of all big cities. Do you think we are from them delighted? Only this does not depend on the residents of the city, but depends on the authorities who have created such an economic situation that the labor of the aliens is cheaper than the local ones!
        1. +2
          3 June 2019 18: 50
          Quote: Phil77
          There are doctors, teachers, workers (yes, yes! There is.), Engineers.

          Of course there is. But the city does not seem to be for them.
          True, for whom this monstrous anthill is already completely incomprehensible ...
          1. +1
            3 June 2019 19: 34
            It’s just that the city has changed! You know my childhood passed to Samotek, Troitskaya street. God! What a wonderful district it was, old Moscow streets, alleys, old buildings of pre-revolutionary construction, a little church if you go to the Lavra lanes. A song, not a district! Olympiad, all this beauty went under the bulldozer, built new buildings, but the district stopped breathing old Moscow, do you understand? And now I live in Biryuliovo Eastern and you know, like it! Green rayonchik, everything for life is there, work is near and there is almost no need to go to the center. So we will live!
            1. +2
              3 June 2019 22: 39
              Quote: Phil77
              Just the city has changed!

              Not that word.
              I, too, used to live not far from Samoteki, and I felt pretty good.
              But now in those parts I really do not like it - closed courtyards, fences, etc., but the main thing is a feeling of alienity. True, in a new place, developers are slowly laying their hands on us, and the once green district is becoming more and more like a stone jungle ...
              1. 0
                4 June 2019 08: 32
                Quote: kakvastam
                Quote: Phil77
                Just the city has changed!

                Not that word.
                I, too, used to live not far from Samoteki, and I felt pretty good.
                But now in those parts I really do not like it - closed courtyards, fences, etc., but the main thing is a feeling of alienity. True, in a new place, developers are slowly laying their hands on us, and the once green district is becoming more and more like a stone jungle ...

                And you didn’t accidentally run to 50 school (German, behind k / t * Forum *), I studied there until I learned 3 class, then moved.
            2. Ska
              +1
              4 June 2019 08: 31
              The park is gorgeous and Tsaritsyno Park which Luzhkov managed to restore. You sir in photos of the cockroach familiar places not met? feel
              1. 0
                4 June 2019 10: 46
                As for the arboretum park, I completely agree with you, Tsaritsyno? And I liked the old one more! It had its own charm, well, it’s as if quiet, in some way it’s a summer resort. And now? But it’s definitely in my opinion. And the boys we went there for apples, plums, cherries from abandoned villas, and we swam in the pond, it was then relatively clean. hi
            3. +2
              4 June 2019 10: 01
              Yes, Moscow is completely different today. For many years he lived in Varshavka. Recently came to see. Did not recognize. Where are the green boulevards? Where is the cozy working area? Set up a skyscraper, worn out Khrushcheby. Truly an anthill for insects.
              Maybe that's why the Cockroach wrote so beautifully?
  9. +3
    3 June 2019 17: 43
    Hello Cockroach! Well, of course, in Moscow to be a guest or a resident are two big differences. I personally don’t really feel sorry for Moscow, although I finished the Moscow school (№132), the MIREA course, for two years as a combatant in the Moscow suburbs, I still can’t stand in the Moscow courtyard, so I’d still get away, though position. The point is not in beauty and progress, but in those people who surround you, who actually represent a mass rushing with thoughts of their daily bread. Even my friends from Moscow, with sadness, admit that their life is at an express pace! And now it is beautiful in Rostov, and even in my small town, a lot of roads, green areas have been laid, new houses have been built, as it is conveniently located. Villages and villages ... what to say, who wants to live and lives, quite well. Also settling settled. The main difference from you, my countrymen and relatives, is that we don’t have to go abroad to work in order to survive, don’t need to change and change ourselves in the style of treachery in favor of hilarious financiers, for whom we are essentially cockroaches! Something like this. Good luck, pictures as usual cool, talent in one word!
  10. 0
    3 June 2019 22: 05
    the most populous city of Europe.
    I was not in Moscow (I was in St. Petersburg). The wife was. With adventures. (An Asian taxi driver took me to the wrong station, but as always to Yaroslavsky and she almost missed St. Petersburg)
    we only have a cinema "Moscow" (with the largest screen in the city - well, at least something similar to the original) laughing
  11. xax
    +1
    4 June 2019 05: 48
    So, yeah:
    1. ISC and other public transport nishtyaki - mentioned.
    2. Great - offset by half, I will explain below.
    3. Carsharing - there is.
    4. Parks - also tick.
    5. Separate garbage collection and comfortable environment - accepted.

    Questions:
    a) According to the greats - other authors have also taken a cycle path to applaud. They were deleted from the list now, or did you just not completely work out the topic?
    b) Praise to paid parking for pedestrian authors is not required, or is this topic no longer relevant and not included in contracts anymore?
  12. xax
    -2
    4 June 2019 06: 04
    You write: "There are those for whom I am a hidden, intelligent enemy"
    I note, not so smart. Bad business, as usual, not tricky. In addition, the scheme worked over the centuries - take it and use it.
  13. +3
    4 June 2019 07: 15
    For Moscow prices, I probably don’t agree, I came to work several times last summer. Accommodation naturally more expensive entertainment possible. And ordinary everyday expenses are quite comparable with the Urals, if purchased in ordinary chain stores.
    But the salaries are quite pleasant.
    1. +3
      4 June 2019 16: 25
      But the salaries are quite pleasant.

      You know, for the sake of a pleasant salary, most people plow for wear. From 9 in the morning to 9-10 in the evening. This is quite a standard working day for those who want to have a pleasant salary. For example, I see my son only on weekends, for he is still asleep when I leave, and already asleep when I arrive. And the majority simply does not have a choice, because either you plow or you are fired. And your qualifications and experience do not matter. Yes, and everyday spending is not limited to shopping.
      1. +1
        4 June 2019 16: 53
        I understand this perfectly, so I don’t rush to the capital, although there are offers.
        Family and health is more important.
        1. +1
          4 June 2019 18: 05
          Family and health is more important.

          That's for sure. It is a pity there is not always a choice.
  14. Ska
    +1
    4 June 2019 08: 52
    winked eh Moscow Moscow (c) Jew from "brother 2"
  15. +1
    4 June 2019 13: 55
    Zdorovenka buly, pan-volunteer.
    A good trip turned out, the main thing that lucky with the weather. But, what have you not gone to the ENEA? Would compare the local with Kiev, and indeed there is a pleasant district, you can ride on a monorail for the time being. You, when you are going to Peter, ask where to go, do not hesitate. And you can skip something interesting. By the way, I recommend to visit us on the day of the Navy. I know a great place where the parade is clearly visible.
  16. 0
    4 June 2019 14: 46
    What a sad agitation ...
    1. +1
      4 June 2019 16: 58
      Who agitates for whom?
      Quote: smaug78
      What a sad agitation ...
      Cockroach for Moscow, for Kiev or for Russia and Ukraine? Something I completely forgotten how to recognize agitation ...
      So you will be someone agitated for something and you will not recognize it. what lol
      1. xax
        0
        4 June 2019 21: 27
        Quote: domokl
        Cockroach for Moscow, for Kiev or for Russia and Ukraine?

        In this story, he is for Sergei Semenovich
  17. 0
    4 June 2019 18: 14
    H. Cockroach. Always read your articles. But it looks like you crossed a line. But you are not alone. I understand, psihanulo, it had to happen. Just you decide, you are Russian?
    Yes, no, sometimes.
    1. +3
      4 June 2019 20: 20
      Quote: Grim Reaper
      Just you decide, you are Russian?

      The second is not clear to me, a Russian, comment. Why should a Ukrainian be Russian? Is the Belarusian Russian or not? In vain you offend the "insect".
      He always emphasizes his Ukrainian insides. At least, I never read from him that he was Russian. By the way, after reading the comments I understood why he didn’t want to publish his reportage ... I can't vouch for the accuracy, but the meaning is this).
      And I also did not notice the offense in him. Quite an adequate perception. I would even say a neat is. Ours would write harder ...
      1. xax
        +1
        4 June 2019 21: 23
        Quote: domokl
        Why should a Ukrainian be Russian?

        Words like history, genetics, logic - do they say anything to you?
        If you rely more on your own perception, then compare, for example, the top three: a resident of the Rostov region., A resident of Ukraine (not western) and a resident of, say, Yekaterinburg. between whom and who are more similar?
        We Russians, you know, are very different. Even residents of nearby territories (especially the non-urban population) often have visible differences from each other: compare, for example, a resident of the Vladimir and Kaluga regions. They are neighbors "through Moscow", but they are so different (even in their words):
        - You can’t forget about Mikhalych.
        - Good tryndet, shgonyaet for nothing!
        1. +1
          5 June 2019 04: 33
          History, genetics, logic ... The history of Ukraine began with a revolution in the Russian Empire. Western Ukraine under whom just was not. East? Russia donated its own land to Ukraine. You saw the map with the territories that at various times were attached to this country. So what's the true story there?
          Genetics? Talking about the genetics of not only Ukrainian, but the Russian people is complicated. Your comment on the difference between Russians in the regions is an example for you. If I live in the south of Western Siberia and the eyes of us, Russians, without admixture of eastern blood, become similar to the nomads from the fact that the wind and sand often, then who are we?
          Logics? Everything is simple here. Yes, our peoples have common roots. But the stem and crown grow from the roots. Just for an example about our pines say. Breed one, and here the south of the tree lives, the greater the differences. Northern slender, tall. A southern razlapistye, with branches rather serious. So it turns out that initially there seemed to be pines from one root, and after a while they were already different. Not like each other. Only needles. Yes, and then a different length.
          And you didn’t answer the question about Belarusians ...
          1. xax
            +1
            5 June 2019 07: 29
            Quote: domokl
            So what is the true story there?

            I did not see versions of history opposing each other in the text preceding this phrase.
            Quote: domokl
            If I live in the south of Western Siberia and the eyes of us, Russians, without an admixture of eastern blood, become similar to nomads because wind and sand are frequent, then who are we?

            Do you understand what genetics is?
            Quote: domokl
            So it turns out that initially it seemed that there were pine from one root, but after some time it’s already different

            From this they do not cease to be pines.
            1. +1
              5 June 2019 07: 41
              Quote: xax
              From this they do not cease to be pines.

              Well yes. They even do not cease to be trees. And the Ukrainians do not cease to be people. Only breed is different. Only the kind of pine is called differently. Genetics is good. Only here people have different nationalities.
              Very much your reasoning, if further to continue them resemble the thoughts of one of the Fuhrer and the guys in white robes because of the puddle about this
              1. xax
                +1
                5 June 2019 08: 13
                Quote: domokl
                And Ukrainians do not cease to be people

                You are on the right track.

                Quote: domokl
                Only the breed is different.

                Adhering to the terminology of plant classification, it should be noted that there are no species of trees. Wood has a breed. Therefore, here by. Move on.

                Quote: domokl
                Only the kind of pine is called differently.

                And the family is the same. So imagine that a family is a people.

                Has the picture come together?

                Quote: domokl
                Very much your reasoning, if further to continue them resemble the thoughts of one of the Fuhrer and the guys in white robes because of the puddle about this

                Your Führer and the guys in white hoodies like you loved to separate and contrast. I’m the opposite.
                1. -1
                  5 June 2019 08: 23
                  Quote: xax
                  So imagine that the family is the people.

                  Something does not converge. We have more than a hundred and fifty families living. And in battle they all become Russian soldiers.
                  And Ukrainians can not boast of the unity of the people. From different forests they are obtained .. There is no symbiosis in Ukraine. Coniferous and deciduous can not get along. So, it is not I who are separating, but they cannot and cannot unite now ...
                  1. xax
                    +1
                    5 June 2019 08: 42
                    Quote: domokl
                    We have more than one and a half hundred families residing

                    Just now you had the views. I will ask you to adhere to the previously adopted terminology and not to arrange a mess in our reasoning.

                    Quote: domokl
                    Coniferous and deciduous

                    It was just pine trees. You have cereal in your head. All evidence is above. Everything is simple.
      2. +2
        5 June 2019 05: 10
        Quote: domokl
        Quote: Grim Reaper
        Just you decide, you are Russian?

        The second is not clear to me, a Russian, comment. Why should a Ukrainian be Russian? Is the Belarusian Russian or not? In vain you offend the "insect".
        He always emphasizes his Ukrainian insides. At least, I never read from him that he was Russian. By the way, after reading the comments I understood why he didn’t want to publish his reportage ... I can't vouch for the accuracy, but the meaning is this).
        And I also did not notice the offense in him. Quite an adequate perception. I would even say a neat is. Ours would write harder ...

        sorry. I never had anything bad in terms of nationalities. In me, who just did not fit, if you dig. I apologize to anyone who offended me.
      3. Ska
        +1
        5 June 2019 08: 53
        Hate breeds hatred. I am "philosophical" about Muscovites.
    2. Ska
      0
      5 June 2019 08: 21
      We Russians do not deceive each other (c) Kuibyshev
  18. -1
    6 June 2019 21: 51
    Moskvadroch - while the rest of Russia slurps shit with bast shoes
  19. 0
    9 June 2019 10: 52
    Quote: vasilii
    Outside the Moscow Ring Road salaries are several times less than in the DS. It's true. But keep in mind that every resident of the castle has a vegetable garden and household farming. Slaughtered a pig, dug up the kartokh, here is the food. Residents of the castle feed from the gardens, grow poultry and livestock. Therefore, they need money only for clothing and utilities. So it was quite fair to set them lower salaries than in the Capital, where you have to buy including food.

    You are free, we don’t pay for utilities, there are lights for lighting and felling for heating, bast shoes and skins for dressing ...