The number of produced tanks "Merkava"

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Israeli military historian Oleg Granovsky, who regularly reviews Israeli military-industrial complex, conducted a study in which, comparing sources, he calculated the number tanks Merkava project, released over the entire existence of the program.

The number of produced tanks "Merkava"




At the moment, the IDF and the Israeli Ministry of Defense do not publish official aggregate data on the production volumes of the Mervak ​​MBT production both as a whole and for individual models. At the same time, scattered numbers were often placed in the public domain.

The concept of the Merkava project came to light in 1970, when the government, together with the Ministry of Defense, decided to create its own Israeli tank. The first official photo in the press appeared in 1977, and two years later the tank was officially presented.

Different sources give different estimates of tanks issued

Merkava has 4 versions. At the moment, Merkava-1 has completely abandoned the current forces. According to historian David Edelman for 2017 a year, Merkava-2 completely dropped out of personnel units, and in the reserve units it also almost did not remain. The IDF’s main battle tanks now remain the third and fourth versions of the “chariot” - the name of the tank is translated from Hebrew.

The National Security Studies Institute's (INSS) report on the Israel Defense Forces gives the following figures: 2014 Merkava 580 and 1 for operational storage, 2 Merkava-780, 3 Merkava-360, and 4 production or ordered.

Granovsky also cites several other sources, in particular, the article by Rolf Hilmes for 2009, G.: it referred to 350 “Merkava-1” (1979-1983), 350 “Merkava-2” (1983-1989), 350 “ Merkava-3 ”(1990-2002, including 150 in 1990-1995 and 200 in 1995-2000), 400“ Merkava-4 ”(with 2002, ordered).

An Israeli researcher notes that for all the years of production, the Merkav’s irretrievable losses were small and amounted to approximately 20 units. An unknown number of tanks - within 7 units - were lost in the 1982 year. Several cars — no permanent losses — were hit in 90's in South Lebanon.

Most of all, the “Merkav” IDF lost in the 21 century, when this car became the main battle tank of the Israel Defense Forces. 3 were destroyed in Gaza in 2002, 5 in Lebanon, in 2006, several cars were lost for non-combat reasons.

How many tanks were released?

In 1979, the first 4 production tanks were released, and in 1980, the construction of 30 machines was already confirmed. Then the pace grew - 7-12 machines per month. As a result, the IDF received about 120 tanks per year. However, there was no information on how long this pace was maintained.

Granovsky had to refer to the data on the units armed with tanks: they knew both the number of personnel and the number of units armed with a particular tank. As a result, bringing together these and other data, the historian reached the figure from 222 to 300 machines of the first generation maximum.

Oleg Granovsky emphasizes that much less is known about the production of the Merkava-2. Counting the number of cars produced by this model had to be carried out quite roughly, according to the brigades. Moreover, the researcher notes that due to the reduction of the military budget, the production rate has seriously decreased since 1984. However, despite this, the total number of second “Merkav” turned out to be more - 369, in the case of incomplete states - 350.

Merkava-3 was produced from 1989 to 2002. They, according to Granovsky, released from 693 to 702. Granovsky's assessment of the Merkava-4 gives 460-480 machines of this type, with a continuing production rate of 30 machines per year. The historian emphasizes that the IDF first published statistics in 2018, which noted that during the 2017 year, the Israeli army received 30 new machines.

The total estimated amount produced by the Merkav for the entire time Total Israeli historian counted 1,760-1,880 machines.
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  1. +3
    1 June 2019 13: 37
    The number of produced tanks "Merkava"
    So, China is resting, is Israel cooler? Yes, who owns information about the number of tanks in Israel, he owns the world.
    1. -15
      1 June 2019 13: 41
      Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world.
      1. +3
        1 June 2019 13: 44
        Quote: SarS
        Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world.

        Do not understand. And where is the little face picking at ....? feel
      2. +2
        1 June 2019 14: 21
        Quote: SarS
        Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world

        Not a big amendment
        Who goes in Merkava tanks - THAT PROTECTS ITS COUNTRY.
        1. +14
          1 June 2019 17: 29
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Quote: SarS
          Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world

          Not a big amendment
          Who goes in Merkava tanks - THAT PROTECTS ITS COUNTRY.

          Addition: ... or attacks the neighboring one.
          1. -2
            1 June 2019 17: 57
            Quote: Captain Pushkin
            Addition: ... or attacks the neighboring one.

            What you wrote is from the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the newspaper "Pravda"
            There was no Internet before, but today you can easily check it.
            And what was really.
            15 May 1948
            Attack of the League of Arab States (Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Transjordan) on Israel on the day of the end of the British mandate and the proclamation of the State of Israel
            23 May 1967
            Nasser announced the closure of the Strait of Tirana for ships and ships bound for Israel, declaring: “If Israel wants war, welcome.”
            5 1967 June
            Israeli aircraft launched an attack on Egyptian airfields. Egyptian aircraft was destroyed in 3 hours. The Six Day War began.
            1968
            At a meeting of the Palestinian National Council in Cairo, the “Palestinian Charter” was adopted,
            “The Palestinian Arab people, whose expression is the armed Palestinian revolution, rejects any decision except the complete liberation of Palestine, and any plan aimed at resolving the Palestinian problem or its international solution ”(Article 21); “Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine ...” (Article 9).
            October 6 1973
            Syria and Egypt suddenly attack Israel. Doomsday War begins
            October 9 1973
            IDF 50 km from Damascus. and 80 from Cairo
            3 1982 June
            In London, as a result of an assassination attempt, Israeli ambassador Shlomo Argov was wounded in the head. This was the reason for the start of the Lebanon war.
            9 1982 June
            Syria entered the war. A third of the Syrian Air Force destroyed. Destroyed all Syria anti-aircraft missile launchers in Lebanon.
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            2. +4
              1 June 2019 21: 10
              Thanks for the info. It’s always good to have real information.
      3. +8
        1 June 2019 18: 48
        Quote: SarS
        Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world.

        So that’s why Israel doesn’t supply Merkava for export - it doesn’t want to share the throne ... itsist is a wicked one ... am
      4. -3
        2 June 2019 00: 20
        Merkava sucks. Leopard 2 is cooler. These tanks will rip any bucket of nuts.
    2. +6
      1 June 2019 14: 20
      Today, the situation in the BTV troops looks like this.

      At the same time, it was decided that the 188th brigade from 2020 will begin rearmament with a new modification of the Mk-4 "Barak" and only reservists will have Mk-3 tanks.
      1. +2
        1 June 2019 14: 23
        I will repeat
        Who is arguing? Just don’t dust!
      2. Maz
        -3
        1 June 2019 19: 34
        We will count them later
  2. +15
    1 June 2019 13: 45
    A decent amount for such a small country! We must pay tribute to Israeli industry.
    1. +1
      1 June 2019 13: 50
      Quote: Morglenn
      A decent amount for such a small country! We must pay tribute to Israeli industry.

      Who is arguing? If only they wouldn’t dust, but they wouldn’t bother us.
      1. -1
        1 June 2019 14: 29
        Quote: Mavrikiy
        If only they wouldn’t dust, but they wouldn’t bother us.

        Dear who is near whom, and who is dusting?
        For Israel, the most important thing is not to "dust" ON IT.
        And as the history shows, there were many such people.
      2. +1
        1 June 2019 17: 22
        We do not argue and do not dust, but you smack and strain, relax and enjoy the inner peace.
        1. -1
          1 June 2019 21: 15
          Quote: merkava-2bet
          strain, relax and enjoy the inner peace.

          WITH YOUR Prayers
    2. 0
      1 June 2019 14: 24
      Quote: Morglenn
      A decent amount for such a small country! We must pay tribute to Israeli industry.

      It is necessary. Moreover, Israel in the 70 years was poorer than the USSR and the creation of military equipment was associated with extreme stress.
      1. +10
        1 June 2019 15: 43
        And America did not help (with its most powerful Jewish lobby among the elites), ah-ah-ah. All by yourself and by yourself. With a mustache.
        1. +2
          1 June 2019 15: 45
          Quote: Kuroneko
          And America did not help (with its most powerful Jewish lobby among the elites), ah-ah-ah. All by yourself and by yourself. With a mustache.

          And why should they help with this? It was much easier to put your tanks.
          1. +7
            1 June 2019 16: 10
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            And why should they help with this? It was much easier to put your tanks.

            You might think the United States never did. How did you fight before Merkav? Not just the German grooves and shtugs of WWII times?
            Similarly with nuclear weapons. It was much easier for the United States to deliver its own nuclear bombs. So no, for some reason they helped, shared technologies (I just beg you, don’t need about the old fairy tale, as cunning Jews circled Yankee burdocks around the finger, taking possession of the secret).
            1. -2
              1 June 2019 16: 20
              Quote: Kuroneko

              You might think the United States never did. How did you fight before Merkav? Not just the German grooves and shtugs of WWII times?
              Similarly with nuclear weapons. It was much easier for the United States to deliver its own nuclear bombs. So no, for some reason they helped, shared technologies (I just beg you, don’t need about the old fairy tale, as cunning Jews circled Yankee burdocks around the finger, taking possession of the secret).

              I won’t. If you do not have basic knowledge about AOI, then there is no point in arguing about the details.
            2. 0
              1 June 2019 19: 19
              Quote: Kuroneko
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              And why should they help with this? It was much easier to put your tanks.

              You might think the United States never did. How did you fight before Merkav? Not just the German grooves and shtugs of WWII times?
              Similarly with nuclear weapons. It was much easier for the United States to deliver its own nuclear bombs. So no, for some reason they helped, shared technologies (I just beg you, don’t need about the old fairy tale, as cunning Jews circled Yankee burdocks around the finger, taking possession of the secret).

              Technology gave the French. Most likely, American Jewish creators of nuclear weapons shared something. In the 70s, Israel already patented its uranium enrichment technologies, such as laser. later - "magnetic".
          2. +7
            1 June 2019 17: 40
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Kuroneko
            And America did not help (with its most powerful Jewish lobby among the elites), ah-ah-ah. All by yourself and by yourself. With a mustache.

            And why should they help with this? It was much easier to put your tanks.

            There was a time, the USA rafted Israel its M48 and M60 tanks, BTR M113, self-propelled guns M106 and M107, etc. etc.
            Then they supplied aircraft and tank engines, tank transmissions, tank guns, etc. etc.
            And all the time they were loading bucks for the purchase of weapons in the United States.
            And so, basically, all by themselves and by themselves. Well, maybe some other American companies helped in the development of missiles and other trifles, but supplied them with electronic components (but this is generally a complete trifle), but in general, exclusively by themselves.
    3. +4
      1 June 2019 16: 05
      Quote: Morglenn
      A decent amount for such a small country! We must pay tribute to Israeli industry.

      Soon every Israeli will have his own tank.
      1. +3
        1 June 2019 17: 43
        Quote: Piramidon
        Quote: Morglenn
        A decent amount for such a small country! We must pay tribute to Israeli industry.

        Soon every Israeli will have his own tank.

        And to him is his own petrol station. To drive 1km on that tank, 5 liters of diesel fuel is required.
      2. 0
        1 June 2019 19: 20
        By the year 2000. wink
    4. Maz
      +1
      1 June 2019 19: 37
      We must pay tribute to the patron of Israel and its owner - the United States of America. Neither construction, design, nor the provision of technology and money to a single tank were without his participation.
  3. +2
    1 June 2019 13: 54
    They are right to not publish official data. And with these calculations of "experiments" you can "conjure" as many
  4. +6
    1 June 2019 14: 06
    Why do they need so many tanks? Little peaceful country!
    1. +10
      1 June 2019 14: 23
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      Why do they need so many tanks? Little peaceful country!

      Well, about the little one, right, but about the peaceful one? Question. angry
    2. +2
      1 June 2019 15: 09
      Why do they need so many tanks? Little peaceful country!

      In 39, the same question of Germany was addressed
    3. -1
      1 June 2019 19: 58
      Quote: serg.shishkov2015
      Why do they need so many tanks? Little peaceful country!

      little men usually dream of a big woman
  5. +6
    1 June 2019 14: 11
    For such a state, especially one that does not sell this tank abroad, this amount will be enough for another couple of decades for sure! Unless, of course, together with the United States they get involved in an adventure, such as a direct invasion of Iran! Although, the chuyka works for the Jews - it is better to swear from a distance than to lead the corpses home from the battlefield, explaining to the population that they got into the war "for the sake of an allied duty", that is, for what the hell!
    1. -3
      1 June 2019 14: 34
      Quote: Thrifty
      that they got into the war "for the sake of the allied debt"

      Israel has no allied military treaties.
      There is one contract with your PEOPLE.
      PEOPLE PROTECTS THE COUNTRY, AND COUNTRY PROTECTS THE PEOPLE!
      1. +7
        1 June 2019 14: 44
        isn’t it funny to say something like that?)))) States from pure altruism to Israel drive dozens of yards of green weapons all these years? I have nothing against it but why this pathos?)))
        1. -4
          1 June 2019 16: 16
          Quote: Bull Terrier
          states from pure altruism to Israel for dozens of yards of greenery weapons driven all these years?

          At the conclusion of a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt, it was agreed that the United States allocates 3,8 mil $ to Israel and 1,8 mil $ to Egypt annually. Weapons can be purchased for these amounts. only in the USA and only with the permission of Congress
          During the rule of the Muslim brothers in Egypt, Congress did not allow the supply of weapons to Egypt.
          And again, Israel has no treaties on military blocs.
          During the Persian Gulf War, the USA insistently demanded that Israel DO NOT TAKE ANY RESPONSE AGAINST IRAQ, although 42 skads were launched into Israel.
          If you have other facts, I will familiarize myself with them.
          1. +7
            1 June 2019 16: 24
            and what for me these nuances? there are facts. Israel has been receiving military assistance from the states for years. and political too. and just financial. Do not want to call it a block or something like that your right. continue to convince yourself of this) I do not mind. we are not a country of lawyers. many are able to see everything in real color. I have nothing against Israel. that he is that he is not to me equally. but how many countries in the world that states are arming at their own expense is a big question.
          2. +4
            1 June 2019 17: 47
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            The United States provides $ 3,8 mil to Israel and $ 1,8 mil to Egypt annually. For these amounts, you can only purchase weapons from the United States and only with the permission of Congress
            During the rule of the Muslim brothers in Egypt, Congress did not allow the supply of weapons to Egypt.

            And after the removal of the Muslim brothers from power in Egypt, for some reason the congress began to block the supply of weapons ... Is it like those "brothers" were dispersed in vain?
            1. +1
              1 June 2019 19: 22
              No, Al-Sist receives 1,5 billion tanks a year.
            2. 0
              1 June 2019 21: 39
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              And after the Muslim brothers were removed from power in Egypt, for some reason the congress of arms supplies began to block.

              "For 2017, President Obama has asked Congress to the allocation of $ 1,3 billion in military and $ 150 million in economic assistance to Egypt. Military assistance was provided. "
              https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/04/14/ssha-egipet-pechalnye-itogi-desyatiletiy-podchineniya
          3. 0
            1 June 2019 22: 28
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            If you have other facts, I will familiarize myself with them.

            There are cons NO FACTS!
            Well, what is the price for you and your minuses?
          4. 0
            2 June 2019 00: 58
            although 42 scads were launched into Israel.
            39 Scud missiles were launched into Israel from Iraq, not 42 as you put it.
        2. +4
          1 June 2019 16: 44
          It's so easy to go on the Internet and find Old about American military assistance to the countries of the Middle East. I searched and read ..... there are Egypt, and Jordan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon ..... there are tens and tens of billions of dollars. The problem is that some, to put it mildly, do not feed the horse. In Israel, for example, everything goes into business, but in Iraq, for example, officials are digging.
          1. +2
            1 June 2019 16: 51
            I don’t say that they alone are such) the meaning is different, for what they give it and what goals they pursue.
            1. 0
              1 June 2019 21: 44
              Quote: Bull Terrier
              the meaning is different, for what they give it and what goals they pursue.

              "In two separate memoranda attached to the 1979 peace treaty of Israel and Egypt, The United States outlined its obligations towards Israel and Egypt, respectively. A similar mechanism since the 1980s has made Israel and Egypt the largest recipients of US military assistance in the world. Meanwhile, the ratio of military assistance to Israel and Egypt goes as 5: 2, that is, Egypt receives US military assistance in the amount of 40% of what Israel receives. Apparently, this ratio was determined by the fact that in the case of a potential Arab-Israeli military conflict, Egypt's potential was matched by the potential of Syria, Jordan and Iraq. "
              https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2017/04/14/ssha-egipet-pechalnye-itogi-desyatiletiy-podchineniya
              If you still have questions, feel free to ask.
          2. +3
            1 June 2019 17: 48
            Quote: bobba94
            there are tens and tens of billions of dollars. The problem is that some, to put it mildly, do not feed the horse. In Israel, for example, everything goes into business, but in Iraq, for example, officials are digging.

            And how to "steal" it if they give it not money, but weapons?
            1. +1
              1 June 2019 22: 40
              Oh, Petro, it’s immediately clear that you were not in power. I’ll just describe the schemes for a long time, for example, Iraq received military equipment, for example, for $ 1 million, of which $ 800 thousand for the equipment itself, and 200 thousand for repairs, maintenance, maintenance, etc. These 200 thousand are already sacred, they are already affordable. Yes, and with the technology itself, not everything is simple, it can burn up, fall into the gorge, drown, you never know. They wrote off and reported, and who cares where the Kurds got armored personnel carriers, mortars and other nishtyaki from.
      2. 0
        2 June 2019 00: 39
        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
        Quote: Thrifty
        that they got into the war "for the sake of the allied debt"

        Israel has no allied military treaties.
        There is one contract with your PEOPLE.
        PEOPLE PROTECTS THE COUNTRY, AND COUNTRY PROTECTS THE PEOPLE!

        Israel was the first to give the alarm that Iraq is threatening them with nuclear weapons, 1981 Iraqi Osirak reactor was bombed. Although if Iraq wanted to use nuclear weapons against Israel, Hussein would have used it, but he did not wave a nuclear baton as the United States and Israel like to do in case of a direct threat, but launched 39 Scud missiles at Israel.
  6. +7
    1 June 2019 14: 28
    Not much, mob reserve in principle, no, Magahi even remained in storage.
    And while I 6 merkav)
    1. +6
      1 June 2019 14: 33
      Hey. More tank brigades are constantly reducing
    2. +8
      1 June 2019 14: 36
      Quote: Kars
      Not much, mob reserve in principle, no, Magahi even remained in storage.
      And while I 6 merkav)

      Not. Since the beginning of 2000x, we have been reducing tank brigades and increasing infantry. And after the start of the war in Syria, this process also accelerated. This is due to both a change in threats and a sharp increase in the anti-tank capabilities of the IDF. Today, the infantry brigade has three times as many ATGMs as it did at the end of 90x. What does all these third-generation complexes have to do with, and at the end of the 90x almost all but two separate battalions were armed with ATGM 2go watering.
      1. +4
        1 June 2019 15: 35
        This is so far your opponents have little rszo and are tight with aviation. And then a couple of volleys of something tornado-like with a fragmentation of a bch and 80% not armored vehicles in the dust.
        1. +7
          1 June 2019 15: 43
          Quote: Kars
          This is so far your opponents have little rszo and are tight with aviation. And then a couple of volleys of something tornado-like with a fragmentation of a bch and 80% not armored vehicles in the dust.
          first, the MLRS against the firmly rummaged infantry are effective only in the absence of counter-battery combat. In Ukraine, you really didn’t spare this good, but the effect is not the greatest.
          Yes, and aviation milking tanks is a much greater threat than for numerous ATGM calculations if they took up positions and disguised themselves .. Well, if our potential adversaries change their threat structure, then our army will react to this. For now, we are reacting to what is and what will be in their next 10-15let.
          1. +5
            1 June 2019 17: 47
            So nobody wants to reduce the number of tanks.
            Infantry firmly entrenched in modern war, except that in the cities will be.
            Aviation in the sense of not hunting for tanks and air superiority.
            And so I personally would put Iran, in direct conflict, one on one.
        2. +2
          1 June 2019 20: 43
          "This is while your opponents have little pso" ////
          ----
          MLRS they have more. This, and OTRK, their main hopes now.
          They no longer hope for airplanes and tanks.
          But missiles are now "everything" of both militants and states.
          And we still have emphasis on strike aircraft.
          Although the number of various missiles has also increased dramatically.
      2. Maz
        -1
        1 June 2019 19: 43
        Wow, here we have a branch of the offvar.so.il site, you need to transfer the link there. Who has more mercenaries in the unit. :) For me, they are so good on the battlefield, with holes in the sides, with torn towers and a steaming engine.
        1. +3
          1 June 2019 20: 20
          Quote: Maz
          Wow, here we have a branch of the offvar.so.il site, you need to transfer the link there. Who has more mercenaries in the unit. :) For me, they are so good on the battlefield, with holes in the sides, with torn towers and a steaming engine.

          And your opinion does not interest anyone.
          1. 0
            2 June 2019 12: 04
            Why nobody interests me, interests me
        2. +1
          1 June 2019 21: 03
          Quote: Maz
          with torn towers

          It can be restored, but live WITHOUT TOWER sorry for the time spent.
    3. +3
      1 June 2019 14: 48
      Quote: Kars
      And while I 6 merkav)

      You have a lot of things Andrey good
      1. +5
        1 June 2019 15: 05
        Yes, yes, yes. But the Israeli technique in terms of the number two, after the Soviet.
        1. 0
          1 June 2019 16: 23
          Quote: Kars
          But Israeli technology is second in number, after Soviet.

          This is your opinion and of course you have every reason for it.
          But experts spoke differently

          "In September 1982, a meeting of the CPSU Central Committee took place in Moscow, dedicated to the analysis of the battles that took place in Lebanon. At this meeting, the commanders of the Soviet Army and the military-industrial complex were harshly criticized. "

          "Until now, few people in our country know that one of the main reasons for Perestroika was the defeat that Israeli aviation inflicted on the Syrian air defense system in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley on June 9-10, 1982. The system was, of course, one hundred percent Soviet, and the latest at that time.
          It was impossible to write off the catastrophe for the ordinary incapacity of the Arabs: even the Israelis recognized that the Syrians fought well this time, moreover, Soviet instructors were sitting next to the Syrians in the cabins of the destroyed SAMs. It's just that the enemy fought in a new way, and we - in the old way. "(Alexander Khramchikhin. Military construction in Russia." Znamya "2005, no. 12).
          1. +6
            1 June 2019 17: 48
            I'm sorry, you just did not understand the dialogue) it's about my collection of models.
            1. +2
              1 June 2019 18: 00
              Quote: Kars
              it's about my collection of models.

              Excuse me. I don’t understand, my ERROR
          2. +1
            1 June 2019 17: 56
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            “Until now, few people in our country know that one of the main reasons for Perestroika was the defeat that the Israeli aviation inflicted on the Syrian air defense system in the Lebanese Bekaa Valley on June 9-10, 1982. The system was, of course, one hundred percent Soviet, and the newest on that moment.

            Nobody knows this until now, even Gorbachev and Reagan did not know. Well, except for Alexander Khramchikhin, he knows ..
            Well done guy - any theory from any finger, like two fingers on the asphalt ....
            1. -2
              1 June 2019 20: 03
              Quote: Captain Pushkin
              Well done guy - any theory from any finger

              "Former IAF commander, David Ivri would later recall a meeting with a high-ranking member of the Warsaw Pact, in which he was told that the dominance of Israeli and US technology and tactics during the war was one of the factors that changed Soviet mind -set, leading to Glasnost and ultimately, the fall of the Soviet Union. "
              TRANSFER:
              "Former Air Force Commander David Ivry later recalled a meeting with a high-ranking member of the Warsaw Pact, in which he said the dominance of Israeli and American technology and tactics during the war was one of the factors that changed Soviet thinking, leading to transparency and, ultimately, the collapse of the Soviet Union. "
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Lebanon_War#Military_analysis
            2. +1
              1 June 2019 21: 20
              In fact, Khramchikhin has some worthwhile publications.
          3. +1
            1 June 2019 18: 29
            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            Alexander Khramchikhin

            Is that the one by Nezavisimaya Gazeta? Well, yes, yes, affinity ...
            http://захаров.net/index.php?md=books&to=cat2&id=52&type=part

            1981.04.21 - 1981.04.21 - All-Union seminar-meeting of ideological workers
            [Organization Information]
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            1982.08.18 - 1982.08.18 - All-Union seminar-meeting "Experience of the Kharkov region to improve soil fertility and the effectiveness of the use of chemicals"
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            1983.03.18 - 1983.03.18 - All-Union meeting on the implementation of collective work in the village

            Quote: Vitaly Gusin
            In September 1982, a meeting of the CPSU Central Committee was held in Moscow

            Something is not beating ?!
            1. 0
              1 June 2019 22: 08
              Quote: sogdy
              - All-Union seminar-meeting of ideological workers

              I want to believe that you understand the difference between the "All-Union seminar-meeting of ideological workers" (PPR) and meeting of the Central Committee of the CPSU
              1. -1
                2 June 2019 11: 12
                Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                what do you understand the difference between

                Quote: sogdy
                http://захаров.net/index.php?md=books&to=cat2&id=52&type=part

                These are ALL meetings of the Central Committee. Is the word "ALL" not clear?
          4. 0
            2 June 2019 12: 23
            Why don't I lie like that, in Yugoslavia an inconspicuous fighter was shot down by an old complex, and then there wasn’t anything you could do with a modern complex on that day, when you write such rubbish yourself even believe that there’s a lot of such fakes in the internet the Syrians fought well this time, it’s good that they already lost, as the Egyptians ejected from the sight of the passenger plane, for the order and for the land which they were given during the ejection. It’s just that there was no time when there was no serious opponent against Israel, the example of Syria could not cope with the Barmolei until Russia helped, now there would be no Syrian army
  7. -2
    1 June 2019 17: 35
    Lies on losses. Hezbollah used our ATGM and burned 32 Merkawa. After that, they quickly invented the Trophy. Our MO must learn speed ...
    1. 0
      1 June 2019 18: 36
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Lies on losses. Hezbollah used our ATGM and burned 32 Merkawa. After that, they quickly invented the Trophy. Our MO must learn speed ...

      Burned? recourse
    2. +1
      1 June 2019 19: 26
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Lies on losses. Hezbollah used our ATGM and burned 32 Merkawa. After that, they quickly invented the Trophy. Our MO must learn speed ...

      5 irrevocable in Lebanon, one (from a land mine) in Gaza
      1. +1
        1 June 2019 20: 06
        Quote: Krasnodar
        Quote: Dzafdet
        Lies on losses. Hezbollah used our ATGM and burned 32 Merkawa. After that, they quickly invented the Trophy. Our MO must learn speed ...

        5 irrevocable in Lebanon, one (from a land mine) in Gaza

        More. Granovsky has this too.
        https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/271781.html
        1. +1
          1 June 2019 20: 07
          I'm talking about 2006. In Gaza - in my memory, there was only one.
    3. 0
      1 June 2019 22: 03
      Quote: Dzafdet
      Lies on losses. Hezbollah used our ATGMs and burned 32 Merkavas.

      I agree with the first statement LIES
      But about 32 tanks, if it’s not difficult for you, please, we ALL look forward to the link.
      Or change the training manual ..
      1. 0
        2 June 2019 16: 20
        And you count them yourself, there are a lot of pictures and the 3 and 4 versions are fading, change the training manual yourself, Israel carefully hides its losses of armored vehicles, when they had American and English they don’t care, and they hide their own, they even shouted that there were no losses. For this Hebrew, I do not believe there are many pictures with torn Merkav towers.
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          2 June 2019 17: 39
          32 tanks if it’s not hard for you, please link WE ALL look forward to.
          And then we continue
  8. -2
    1 June 2019 19: 01
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Quote: SarS
    Who drives Merkava tanks owns the world

    Not a big amendment
    Who goes in Merkava tanks - THAT PROTECTS ITS COUNTRY.

    Well yes. From the Palestinians? !!!! laughing laughing laughing
  9. 0
    1 June 2019 20: 41
    580 Merkava 1 and 2 for operational storage

    Israel is the only country with a ready-made chassis for the creation of its heavy infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers (all the more so, there is its own KAZ). And they from a captured T-55 sculpted some kind of crap. There is a need, an opportunity and resources. What else do people lack? I do not know. Maybe some kind of insight or a magic pendell?
    1. 0
      2 June 2019 16: 22
      Not the only one
  10. +2
    1 June 2019 21: 15
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    If only they wouldn’t dust, but they wouldn’t bother us.

    Dear who is near whom, and who is dusting?
    For Israel, the most important thing is not to "dust" ON IT.
    And as the history shows, there were many such people.

    And as the history shows, the "return" was appropriate
  11. +3
    1 June 2019 22: 36
    It is difficult to judge even now about the performance characteristics of a Merkava tank without having real information about the battles conducted in a real battle. Smashing Palestinians to their homes is not a battle
    1. +1
      2 June 2019 00: 45
      They, apart from Hezbollah and the houses of Palestinians, cannot hammer anything, because this bucket with nuts is expensive and in case of huge losses and the destruction of more of these copper basins, they will go for a lot more money than Israel has in its budget. Merkava is not T-series tanks that even hit, even kill are easily restored.
      Quote: APASUS
      It is difficult to judge even now about the performance characteristics of a Merkava tank without having real information about the battles conducted in a real battle. Smashing Palestinians to their homes is not a battle
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  13. +3
    2 June 2019 02: 51
    For those who undertook to compare the German tank Leopard and the Israeli Merkava, I will reveal secret information. Transmissions and engines for both tanks are produced in Germany at the MTU factory in the city of Friedrichshafen. During the Second World War, the same factory produced engines for Wehrmacht armored vehicles. The MG-251 tank-gun tank gun Merkava Mk 3. is a clone of the 120 mm smooth-bore gun of the German company Rheinmetall installed in Leopard-2 tanks. A new MG4 253 mm caliber gun was installed on the Merkava Mk 120 tank. True, behind the brand new barrel with the “Star of David” on the hallmark hides the good old NATO classic - the Rh-120 gun. It can be seen on the most popular tanks of the Western world: Leopard 2 and Abrams M1A1. If you consider that the armor plates for the Merkava are being rolled in Romania, then in general this is a small load on the Israeli industry. There is only an assembly and design Israeli. In fact, this is a screwdriver production of tanks.
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      2 June 2019 06: 13
      Quote: rotfuks
      If you consider that the armor plates for the Merkava are being rolled in Romania, then in general this is a small load on the Israeli industry.

      in Romania, a lot of things are rolled, but only not combined armor for Israel.
  14. +1
    2 June 2019 09: 43
    Quote: Maki Avellievich
    in Romania, a lot of things are rolled, but only not combined armor for Israel.

    Combined armor is made even in the conditions of repair plants in Syria. This does not require steelmaking and rolling mills. I kind of hint that the production of tanks for Israel is not very energy-intensive and costly production. This is not for you the production of the same T-72, which, from the engine to the last screw, was entirely manufactured in the USSR.
    1. 0
      2 June 2019 14: 01
      Quote: rotfuks
      Combined armor is made even in the conditions of repair plants in Syria.

      now everything is clear to me. thank
  15. 0
    2 June 2019 21: 22
    Quote: Ilya Lytkin_3
    80 percent of your information is incorrect to say the least

    You have the opportunity to refute my incorrect information.
  16. 0
    2 June 2019 21: 32
    Quote: Ilya Lytkin_3
    Losses Merkav in the second Lebanese -5 units. 2 from land mines and 3 from rockets.

    an article by Yitzhak Ben-Israel talks about the death of 23 tankers from ATGMs (and RPG grenades). Thus, 7 tankers died from landmines. However, most likely the Merkava Mk.2 (09.08.06/3/12.08.06) and the Merkava Mk.7 (5/4/2) were only hit by ATGMs. Explosive versions of landmines (in addition to ATGMs) were apparently put forward because of the detonation of ammunition in tanks. Therefore, it is most likely that not 12.07.06, but 1 tankers died from the landmines - 4 in the Merkava MK 24.07.06 (23/5/XNUMX) and XNUMX in the Merkava MK XNUMX (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX) ........ .. how are you hinting that the XNUMX dead tankmen were in XNUMX units of armored vehicles?
  17. 0
    3 June 2019 11: 55
    Yes, the drum like how many tanks in Israel. Russia will not fight with him the same.
  18. 0
    4 June 2019 11: 25
    Quote: Ilya Lytkin_3
    The only truth is the imported engine. Everything else is Israeli. And the armor is now rolling in Israel

    According to this logic, a BMW car assembled in Kaliningrad from German components can be called Russian or Renault assembled in Moscow can be considered Russian. And about the tank armor rolled in Israel is valuable information. Can you name the brand of the rolling mill? Type of open-hearth furnace? Well, an Israeli steelmaker is another story altogether.
  19. 0
    4 June 2019 14: 30
    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
    32 tanks if it’s not hard for you, please link WE ALL look forward to.
    And then we continue



    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Корнет_(ПТРК)

    The Kornet-E ATGM (export version) was used in combat during the Second Lebanon War by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon in 2006 [27] [32]. Several launchers and unused rockets were captured by the IDF [33]. According to the statement of Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah, the complexes were obtained from Syria [34].

    According to the report of the Israeli army, in this conflict, 46 Merkava tanks received various injuries from enemy fire (all types of impact). The RIAN news agency, referring to the An-Nur radio station owned by Hezbollah, wrote that a certain "American report distributed in diplomatic missions in Lebanon claims that Israel’s officially reported data on losses in Lebanon are very underestimated and Israel actually lost 164 tanks" Merkava “”. [35] [36] [37] [38]

    In total, during the conflict (according to the Israeli military), 45 tanks were hit by ATGMs and RPG grenades, and 51 missiles hit the tanks. In 24 cases (47% of the number of hits), the cumulative jet pierced the armor of tanks. In total, about 60 BTT units received combat damage, including 48-52 tanks. 31 soldiers of the armored forces were killed, including 30 tankers (there are sources with lower numbers, up to 13). In addition, 4 more soldiers died from ATGM hits on the BTT - 3 in the D9 bulldozers and 1 in the Puma heavy armored personnel carrier. [39] According to M. Khlyustov, "the number of launches from ATGMs of all types is unlikely to greatly exceed 100" [40]. According to O. Granovskiy, “most likely the number of ATGMs and RPG grenades fired actually exceeds 1,000 units. The statement that every 25th missile hit the target is extremely doubtful ... "[39].

    Several (allegedly 2) Kornet anti-tank systems were delivered to the Israel National Institute for the Study of Ammunition of the Engineering Forces of the Israel Defense Forces. [41]

    According to the Israeli authorities, on April 7, 2011, during the shelling of an Israeli school bus, Hamas militants used the Kornet ATGM, which led to a diplomatic scandal between Israel and Russia [31].

    ATGM “Cornet” are used by the forces of the Free Army of Syria during the civil war in Syria [42].

    In June 2014, members of the ISIS group posted a lot of photos of lined Iraqi armored vehicles on social networks, including tanks, armored personnel carriers and armored vehicles. An official source in the United States on June 13, 2014 confirmed damage to 28 Abrams MBTs, of which at least 5 were hit by ATGMs. A report published by Jane's authoritative publication, citing militants and various official structures, reported that Iraq’s armored vehicles had been subjected to many attacks using the Kornet ATGM and RPG-7. Among the armored vehicles destroyed and destroyed by the militants are BMP-1, T-55, Humvee and M113. According to Jane's report, there is a photo of at least one destroyed Abrams tank. [43] [44]

    In 2014, according to the Israeli military, the Israeli army found Russian-made Kornet anti-tank missiles during the Indestructible Rock ATO in the Gaza Strip. Also during this operation, out of 15 missiles launched on Israeli tanks and intercepted by Trophy active tank defense systems, most were Kornet ATGMs or their modifications. Also, in some cases, the Trophy was able to detect the launch sites of ATGMs, which allowed the tank teams to destroy them immediately after interception. [15] [45]

    On January 28, 2015, at least 3 anti-tank missiles of the Kornet complex were launched from Lebanon through an Israeli military jeep and village. As a result, 2 soldiers died [26] and 7 were injured, including civilians. [25]

    In May 2019, a Citroen car was hit by a Kornet rocket from the Gaza Strip on the highway between the village of Yad Mordechai and the city of Sderot. The driver, a male (60 years old), was fatally wounded and died during his evacuation to the hospital. [46]