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Russian Defense Ministry will not abandon the program to modernize aircraft

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Russian Defense Ministry will not abandon the program to modernize aircraftThe Russian Defense Ministry will not abandon the program to modernize aircraft that have been in service for decades. The deep modernization of such aircraft is much cheaper than the creation of new technology, the commander-in-chief of the Russian Air Force, Major General Viktor Bondarev, told reporters today.

“Why throw out an airplane that flew 10-15 for years, if it can fly another 50 years after upgrading? It seems to me that this is not very correct,” said Viktor Bondarev.

He also said that the modernization program will affect almost all types of aircraft in service in the country today. However, the commander-in-chief noted that, for example, such aircraft as the An-26, which had long since exhausted their resources, are already useless to upgrade. According to him, a light military transport aircraft is currently being developed in Russia, which will replace the An-26.

In addition, Viktor Bondarev noted that the Defense Ministry will buy in Ukraine military transport planes An-70, An-148 and An-124 Ruslan. According to him, Russia needs Ruslan. At the same time, he called it the cheapest to operate among machines of this class. "Before 2020, we will get 10 completely new An-124," said the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force.

On the An-70 aircraft, the commander in chief noted that the work was proceeding normally. “The plane is interesting and we will take it. This plane has already made many flights. The Ukrainian side promises to complete the remaining work on it in the near future, ”he said.

Also, according to the commander in chief, the Air Force has one An-148 aircraft and decided to purchase four more such aircraft. The planes will be purchased for flight crew training and solving military transport problems.

In addition, Viktor Bondarev said that the Russian Air Force is carefully studying all the characteristics of the aircraft offered not only by Ukraine, but also to other countries of the world.
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  1. Yoshkin Kot
    Yoshkin Kot 28 June 2012 11: 20
    +3
    right, we don’t cut what flies so much
    1. Gavrilon
      Gavrilon 28 June 2012 11: 26
      0
      An old tale about the main thing !!! Soviet technology was built with great potential for modernization !!! laughing
      1. kapitan_21
        kapitan_21 28 June 2012 11: 43
        +6
        Correctly! For example, Tu-95MS how many years in service and still serve! You look and fly to the Americanos mainland! )))
        1. Reks
          Reks 29 June 2012 00: 02
          0
          Quote: kapitan_21
          For example, Tu-95MS how many years in service and still serve!
          good Alive and in good health. This spot was taken in Tver by local spotters, a couple of three days ago. good
    2. pribolt
      pribolt 28 June 2012 12: 09
      0
      Yes, modernization is good, but the planes need to be repaired too, so far we see how they fall ....
      Today is another http://www.interfax.ru/society/news.asp?id=252867
      1. Sokol57
        Sokol57 28 June 2012 12: 45
        0
        Qualified specialists are always needed, especially for flying equipment ...

        Since the mid-2000s, there have been several incidents involving Russian Su-27 aircraft, RIA Novosti reports. On September 15, 2005, the plane crashed in the Shakyai region of Lithuania near the border with the Kaliningrad region, near the city of Kaunas. The pilot ejected safely, there were no casualties among the population.

        On July 29, 2008, a crash of Su-12 occurred 27 km north of Ussuriysk, as a result of which one of the two pilots died.

        On August 16, 2009, during training flights before the opening of the MAKS-2009 air show, two Su-27 aircraft from the Russian Knights aerobatic team collided. One of the planes crashed into the territory of the Sosny garden association near the village of Belozerikha. The commander of the group, Colonel Igor Tkachenko, and a resident of the Moscow region, who was injured as a result of the plane crash, died in the crash.

        On January 14, 2010, near the Dzengi airfield (Komsomolsk-on-Amur), the mark of a Su-27 aircraft performing a training flight disappeared from the radar screens during scheduled flights. The crash site was found by the search teams, and the pilot's body and "black boxes" were also found there.

        On September 20, 2010, the Su-27 fighter crashed as a result of a post-repair flight near the military airfield in the village of Vozdvizhenka, Primorsky Territory. The plane crashed 500 meters from the runway. The crew ejected.

        On April 6, 2011, a Su-27 fighter crashed in the vicinity of the village of Solovey Klyuch, Nadezhdinsky District, Primorsky Territory. The plane crashed outside the village, there are no casualties and destruction on the earth. The pilot was hospitalized.
      2. Neighbor
        Neighbor 28 June 2012 16: 56
        0
        Quote: pribolt
        Yes, modernization is good, but the planes need to be repaired too, so far we see how they fall ....

        It happens that completely new airplanes are falling, moreover, in all countries of the world. No one and nothing is safe from disasters. And the reasons may be a lot - the human factor, failures / malfunctions in electronics, circuit. Bad fuel poured.
        However, I agree - it is NADO to repair - it is 100%. So that the equipment is always in perfect condition. No way without it.
        And it is necessary to upgrade. For as long as new physical principles and technologies have not been explored - to create something better is difficult, if not impossible. It remains only for new engines, rockets, electronics, avionics. The box itself - a plan of airplanes - will be relevant and workable in 50 years.
        They will introduce plasma technologies for example - then yes. There will be something to change in design and aerodynamic design. For such aircraft - they can even fly underwater - like UFOs at hyper speeds.
      3. Reks
        Reks 29 June 2012 00: 06
        0
        Quote: pribolt
        so far we see them falling ....

        drinks not everything is so gloomy. The most democratic are falling everywhere. Technique is technology. Although I agree with you, there is a certain problem
    3. VAF
      VAF 28 June 2012 15: 20
      0
      Quote: Yoshkin Cat
      right, we don’t cut what flies so much


      The thought is correct, but they cut and destroyed themselves so much ..... well, okay, I won’t spoil what they cut and destroyed ... spoil the mood, but here’s an example of how we did it. that both the planes and the very view of this aircraft have died and ... it seems irrevocably !!!

      A photograph of the Be-26N anti-submarine amphibious aircraft (hull number "2012 yellow") taken on June 12, 28 in Anapa from the 7057th Konstanz Red Zone Air Base of Naval Aviation of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy.

      The plane built in 1973 (serial number 3602802, serial number 28-02) is constantly based in the air group of this air base in Kache in the Crimea and is one of the last six Be-12 aircraft operated by the Russian Navy, formally withdrawn from service, but remaining on service in the Black Sea.

      As you can see, in 2012 the machine additionally received registration RF-12012.

      Replacements for these aircraft in Russian maritime aviation is still not expected in the foreseeable future.



      Be-12N (side number "28 yellow") aviation of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy. Anapa, 26.06.2012
    4. in reserve
      in reserve 28 June 2012 22: 49
      0
      Only something new is driving progress, and if we modernize outdated ones, we will be 10 years behind the West. If it is cheaper in their opinion, I doubt something MISCLEAN PAYS TWICE.
  2. leon-iv
    leon-iv 28 June 2012 11: 24
    +8
    damn how I remember how the An-22 cut that just came from modernization .....
    EBN shoot hotz
    Yes, and Gorby with him.
    By modernization.
    The problem in the ARZ is more precisely in their capabilities. There it is impossible to quickly increase production.
    1. VAF
      VAF 28 June 2012 12: 24
      +3
      Quote: leon-iv
      damn how I remember how the An-22 cut that just came from modernization .....


      Here +! without words..... drinks

      Good. Not even ... chic ... there was a plane ....





      1. Z.A.M.
        Z.A.M. 28 June 2012 12: 34
        +1
        veteran.air force

        As always - cool photos. +
        Cutting and abandoning propeller aircraft, such as the AN-22, is simply stupid ...
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv 28 June 2012 13: 08
          +2
          So who in the 90s needed strategic mobility of troops?
          And right now they scratch turnips on what the troops transport.
          They wanted to send live Antei to Kiev for modernization, the couple did not grow together.
          Last night we talked with a navigator who flies on the cunning An-22 in Ivanovo. Specialists came to Migalovo and looked at the glider. They say they can be revived, they will think where and how.
          Samara also confirmed that the engines can be restored.
          1. VAF
            VAF 28 June 2012 15: 08
            0
            Quote: leon-iv
            They say they can be revived, they will think where and how. Samara also confirmed that the engines can be restored.


            We have already dealt with this topic, 8 years ago, it seemed that everything was on the ointment ... but when we came to reality. then the question immediately arose ... how much ... will "roll back" ... and everything collapsed, since their appetites ...

            This is like a question with the Be-12s, for conversion into firefighters .....

            Even they agreed with the Ukrainians, they have to do the repairs completely, and our documentation ... so they asked for a table ... that it was possible to buy a whole fleet of Bombers ready and new .....

            That's what it's called ... Russian aviation business .... recourse crying fool
        2. Reks
          Reks 29 June 2012 00: 37
          0
          drinks do not cut! Photo "parrot" fresh. good
      2. Reks
        Reks 29 June 2012 00: 29
        0
        Quote: veteran.air force
        . chic ... there was a plane ....

        drinks Greetings !!! Your permanent fan drinks ..But I didn’t understand this phrase of yours. How is it in the past tense ?????? There are and hello.V Ivanovo repair and work ... good (photo from 20.o6.12) "Parrot" spotted buzzing and surfing the same way !!!
    2. Ziksura
      Ziksura 28 June 2012 12: 59
      +1
      Quote: leon-iv
      EBN shoot hotz

      Who abolished the death penalty? I felt what it smells like.
      Quote: leon-iv
      Yes, and Gorby with him.

      Unfortunately, this will not work together. But you are right-
      Quote: leon-iv
      hottsa
  3. NickitaDembelnulsa
    NickitaDembelnulsa 28 June 2012 11: 25
    +4
    This is very correct, but it is impossible to repair forever what has already worked out its resource, a new one also needs to be done.
  4. Bugor
    Bugor 28 June 2012 11: 41
    +3
    Do not forget about the phantom shot down by the Syrians. He was soaked in Vietnam, and is still working. You can’t abandon what you have accumulated.
    1. Svistoplyaskov
      Svistoplyaskov 28 June 2012 12: 10
      +2
      Or the British supersonic Lightning served from 1954 to 1988!
    2. VAF
      VAF 28 June 2012 15: 14
      +2
      Quote: Bugor
      He was soaked in Vietnam


      And still flies in 12 countries in the world, here is an example ....

      The organizers of the international air show organized by the British Air Force in Waddington continue to receive notifications of the participation of foreign aircraft, and report that an F-4F Phantom fighter from the German Air Force will participate in the air show.

      Combat aircraft operate in Germany, which is one of the operators of this type of aircraft.
      "Phantoms" are in service with the Air Force in 12 countries.



      The fighter will arrive from the JG 71 Richthofen wing, based in Wittmund (northern Germany).
      This wing is the only one in the Luftwaffe, which is armed with F-4F aircraft, performing the functions of an air combat fighter and air defense interceptor.
      Next year they will be replaced by Typhoon multi-functional fighters.



      The international showroom in Waddington will be held from June 30 to July 1, visitors will see planes from 20 countries.
      1. qwz_qwz
        qwz_qwz 28 June 2012 15: 38
        +1
        And still flies in 12 countries
        And they’re doing the right thing, why wouldn’t they be able to fly their functions, they will quite perform it, especially after modernization. I believe the United States is not included in these 12 countries, and in my opinion they only have ambitions to enslave the planet, they need all this very thing ... If there weren’t the USA and we could almost fly MiG-21 , and the Su-27 and MiG-29 were only in the plans, about the PAK FA and it wouldn’t go as unnecessary ...
  5. 11 black
    11 black 28 June 2012 11: 45
    +3
    all right!
    the Amer’s b52 flew back in the 1955 year and is still standing, and they’re not going to write it off. It also went through several stages of modernization and is even relevant today ... so ours are still new compared to it laughing
  6. Committee
    Committee 28 June 2012 11: 49
    +1
    Modernization-purchases, purchases-modernization .... It looks like the systematic destruction of our aircraft industry. And we should forget about modernization altogether. "Modernization" is the favorite horse of our fifth column in Soviet times! I know perfectly well how they did not start up new equipment for the sake of "modernization", having outlined such a LAGGER that entire production facilities stopped. In general, remember friends, the one who repeats about "modernization" is the ENEMY!
  7. patriot2
    patriot2 28 June 2012 11: 50
    +2
    It is interesting that there is such a concept as "metal fatigue" - whoever is familiar with this knows that during long-term operation of metal structures irreversible changes in the structure of the metal occur in them, affecting the strength characteristics of products made of it.
    Is the Air Force Commander familiar with this? If not, then educate the general. It seems unpleasant and painful in places to see the aircraft scattering during takeoff / landing for 50 years (as in the article). Yes, the F-4, shot down by the Syrians, is still in service with the Turks - but then the Turks, even if they are made of wood, and then we.
    1. Committee
      Committee 28 June 2012 12: 07
      +1
      And not only, but how will this 50-year-old plane look like against the background of modern ones? How about obsolescence, how about new types of air defense? How can he compete with modern technology, with the one that was not "modernized", but created with a 50-year reserve from copying?
      Or someone naively believes that while we will putty and paint planes for 50 years, our probable "friends" will sit quietly and not invent anything ?!
      WHO CONSTRUCTS ABOUT MODERNIZATION IS THE ENEMY !!!
  8. click80
    click80 28 June 2012 11: 53
    +2
    I wonder what will be done with the AN-2? After all, they still jump landing. I can be mistaken. I served in 2000, and now something can change. Anushka is a good plane, scary even before boarding the plane, it rattles so much that you think it will fall apart laughing
  9. anchonsha
    anchonsha 28 June 2012 12: 01
    +2
    That's right, everything can be upgraded and used again. Those Yankees do exactly that. But space requires innovation, since humanity faces global challenges to break through into other galaxies of the universe
  10. ivansaxonov
    ivansaxonov 28 June 2012 12: 05
    +1
    Modernization-purchases, purchases-modernization .... It looks like the systematic destruction of our aircraft industry. And we should forget about modernization altogether. "Modernization" is the favorite horse of our fifth column in Soviet times! I know perfectly well how they did not start up new equipment for the sake of "modernization", having outlined such a LAGGER that entire production facilities stopped. In general, remember friends, the one who repeats about "modernization" is the ENEMY!


    One could forget about it if our industry, at this stage, could offer the army a sufficient number of new machines. While this is not there, we need to maintain the old equipment in decent condition. We will systematically move away from modernization and begin to produce new aircraft! Or cut everything and wait for a new technique?
  11. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 28 June 2012 12: 06
    +1
    All right, why let under the knife, what else can work for the good of the Motherland. This is normal, as they do in the whole world.
    1. Committee
      Committee 28 June 2012 12: 27
      +2
      Why "under the knife" ?! It is clear after all that no one calls for this, I mean something else, that for the sake of "modernization" the fifth column DOES NOT START NEW TECHNOLOGY !!! They were and are. Previously, they "worked" at each plant in the so-called "First Department", now they have spread to all kinds of technical supervision. I emphasize - "modernization" is a rollback, no one will allocate money for modernization and new equipment! Moreover, the modernization needs several times less! Therefore, they have always used this. This is their trump card - "no money".
  12. disaster
    disaster 28 June 2012 12: 07
    -1
    Enough to upgrade. Something new is needed, not just PAK-FA. It’s time for Russia to do something like the AC-130.
    1. Kaa
      Kaa 28 June 2012 12: 13
      +2
      What Papuans are going to shoot, my dear? AC -130 - plane of "clear skies", that is, against underdeveloped armies and civilians. Do you need it?
    2. qwz_qwz
      qwz_qwz 28 June 2012 12: 19
      +1
      Enough to upgrade. Something new is needed, not just PAK-FA. It’s time for Russia to do something like the AC-130.
      Mdaaa .....! Immediately obvious, a specialist, however ....
  13. Kaa
    Kaa 28 June 2012 12: 16
    +1
    Old man B-52 is being slowly written off, but the rest is being modernized, despite the presence of B-1B, B-2. Modernization of the old is a near-term prospect that does not interfere with the creation of PACFA and PACDA in the medium term.
  14. Senzey
    Senzey 28 June 2012 12: 17
    +1
    If the aircraft has proved itself to be excellent, the design has a very successful layout, then such an aircraft must be modernized, and it will fly until it comes up with technologically new designs. But new ways must also be sought, time does not stand still, there are many new ideas and technologies, materials and weapons. It is necessary to rationally use the old developments and make new prototypes that will possibly go into series in the future and will be equipped with our Air Force and all aviation as a whole.

    1. Committee
      Committee 28 June 2012 12: 30
      +3
      Well, guys, the PO-2 also "proved itself very well", About the MiG-15 in general, legends still go. It is about something else, how to put a maize operator with all due respect against the YF-22?
  15. patriot2
    patriot2 28 June 2012 12: 40
    +1
    For those who do not understand - why do you know the shells and mines explode? Especially in warehouses, what happens to gunpowder you know? That's about the same thing happens with old metal from which I will make an airplane. Shuttles did not fly endlessly. And the age of the B-52 is also critical. And here 50 years in the air for an aircraft of an outdated design voiced - this is stupidity or simply ignorance. After 50 years, the metal in terms of strength characteristics will be like plywood. Fly? And for labor and costs for disassembling, assembling, setting up testing and testing? The new one will be cheaper and better than multiple circus with the expensive modernization of the old design.
  16. awg75
    awg75 28 June 2012 13: 23
    +2
    you have to do it yourself, not buy from Ukraine
  17. suharev-52
    suharev-52 28 June 2012 20: 04
    0
    Before the start of modernization, the aircraft goes through a full schedule of works on TX. So there is no need to "fill up the tanks" gentlemen. During modernization, everything is replaced that does not fit into the warranty period. What can be upgraded must be done. Sincerely.
  18. Uncle
    Uncle 29 June 2012 00: 10
    0
    I heard that when the Tu90 flies, you can already hear it in submarines. Well, maybe people lie.
    1. radikdan79
      radikdan79 29 June 2012 08: 01
      0
      Uncle,
      Tu90? belay and what's that? request
  19. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 29 June 2012 08: 06
    0
    I do not know why!
    But it seems to me that all purchases of equipment abroad under the guise of buying technology, carrying out upgrades and so on! All this is nothing more than an attempt to write off for a long time the stolen money that was allocated over the past 10 years to the country's Defense.
    Restoring order in the country name cargo - It's like going up the stairs with a backpack - backwards, it's not convenient!
    Why do I think so? Because he raised documents over the past 10 years - so many slogans, reports - Allocated, The whole world is shocked, the latest technology, export billions of dollars worth of contracts - Head around!
    Where are these innovative technologies, why isn’t there a media commentary by KB, designers themselves, representatives of the military-industrial complex?
    All this is disgusting!
    But such statements are designed for the average Russian - he needs this information! And those who serve them to reason according to the Charter is not supposed to! So it turns out that all of this is just a CLEANING OF TAILS (from the inside) under beautiful slogans.
    And so if we buy - let's buy AK in China - their production. They sell them right and left. Let's study their latest technologies. Let's call the AK - "Automatic China"! Also, under such slogans, you can zakumat T-72-Tajik 72, Syrian-controlled SU airplanes. And do not forget to look for the U-2 unsurpassed technolocia - plywood and summer and bombs!