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CMY: Russia suspended C-300 shipments to Syria

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CMY: Russia suspended C-300 shipments to SyriaDeliveries of the C-300 anti-aircraft missile complex C-300PMU-2 to Syria, despite the previously concluded contract, were suspended at the direction of the Russian leadership, sources in the defense industry said.

Most likely, Moscow refused to supply the most powerful of the air defense systems sold abroad to Syria in order to appease the countries of the West and Israel, the manager of one of the defense industry enterprises told Vedomosti. As an example, he cited a similar incident that occurred in 2010, when Russia canceled the contract for the supply of C-XNUMPPMU-300 complexes to Iran, despite the fact that international sanctions do not prohibit the supply of such weapons to the Islamic Republic.

Also, the source did not rule out that the Syrians because of the sanctions from the Western countries simply do not have the means to pay for the air defense system, he said.

At the same time, Russia is still supplying the Beech M-2 medium-range air defense systems to Syria, the Pantsir-S short-range anti-aircraft missile-gun complex and the upgrading of the C-125 complex according to the Pechora-2M version. These weapons require consideration during the planning of NATO military operations against Syria, the source said.

The fact that the contract for the supply of C-300PMU-2 to Syria was concluded, according to a report for the past year, OAO Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant (NMZ), which is part of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern.

“To date, over 10 contracts for the supply of products and services are underway. Among them, the largest ones are contracts for the supply of products from C-300 complexes to Algeria, costing 39 million dollars and Syria - 105 million dollars. The products under these contracts are planned to be shipped in the period 2012 of the year - the beginning of 2013 of the year, ”the annual report says.

It also indicates that Algeria (the “012 foreign customer”) in 2011 and 2012 had already transferred three C-300 divisions.

As the newspaper VIEW, reported on Monday in Damascus, it was reported that the Turkish Air Force aircraft was shot down by anti-aircraft fire, not a guided missile.

Earlier, military expert Lieutenant-General Leonid Sazhin said that the Syrian air defense in the incident with the destruction of the Turkish F-4 fighter "Phantom" could use an anti-aircraft missile-gun complex (ZRPK) "Pantsir-С1".

On Tuesday, the Turkish authorities handed over to the UN a statement saying that the actions of the Syrian military, who shot down the Turkish Air Force aircraft, are a threat to peace and security in the region.

On the same day, in Ankara, they said that Turkey at a NATO meeting on Tuesday could offer the Allies to regard the destruction of the Turkish fighter by the Syrian air defense as a fact of attack on the entire alliance.

Meanwhile, US Permanent Representative to the UN Susan Rice called for a military operation in Syria.
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  1. Legion47
    Legion47 27 June 2012 08: 28
    +20
    These are not the actions that I expected from our leadership, I hope they have good reasons for this! am
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 08: 39
      +3
      And who was waiting ,,,,, ...
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 27 June 2012 08: 51
        +19
        I read this article yesterday in another source! Personally, I did not doubt such "actions" of our "leadership", but there was hope, and, as they say, it dies last! So she died! All the actions of our authorities over the past few decades contradict any logic, if we proceed from our national interests! Hence we can conclude: they do not work in the interests of our people and country! After reading, it remains to hope again that this article is complete crap ......... am
        1. Ross
          Ross 27 June 2012 13: 12
          +3
          nycsson,

          Personally, I did not doubt such "actions" of our "leadership", but there was hope,


          Putin’s trip to Israel is not accidental. There was some kind of bargaining apparently with Israel. You need to see where that comes up.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 14: 42
            0
            Quote: Ross
            Putin’s trip to Israel is not accidental. There was some kind of bargaining apparently with Israel. You need to see where that comes up.

            Of course, not by chance! Bosses are sitting there!
            1. ozs
              ozs 29 June 2012 14: 45
              +1
              No, the hosts are in the USA
        2. alexdol
          alexdol 27 June 2012 22: 09
          +1
          I already wrote earlier that I do not believe Putin’s-Medvedev’s prozidov’s power! And now - confirmation of this! What is there to be surprised if I read recently on the internet that Israel and Russia have many common interests ?! They are all bastards ... They will not send anyone anywhere, they will only talk. It’s time to overthrow this power otherwise everyone
      2. Tirpitz
        Tirpitz 27 June 2012 09: 41
        0
        SIGHT. The situation in Syria requires more decisive measures - conducting a peacekeeping operation with the sanction of the UN Security Council, said the US Permanent Representative to the organization, Susan Rice.

        “We must take more significant steps to exert pressure (on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad), including, in addition to sanctions, the application of Chapter VII of the UN Charter,” she said on Monday, speaking at the UN Security Council. This chapter, entitled “Actions in relation to a threat to peace, violation of peace and acts of aggression”, provides for the use of armed forces to maintain peace by decision of the UN Security Council, Interfax reports.
      3. zaxooz
        zaxooz 27 June 2012 10: 55
        -6
        idiots were waiting ...? because the Americans didn’t understand anything at all in the S-300, so they were afraid of it like fire, right? the young man of Borisk frightened the Americans with a system and without firing a single shot at their planes, but to us that the patriot was afraid of them, nobody sold him to us (in a single copy).

        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 07
          +2
          Sachsus and why did you post a photo of your drunken father
        2. vezunchik
          vezunchik 27 June 2012 11: 22
          +2
          And where does the former foreman?
        3. DERWISH
          DERWISH 27 June 2012 12: 50
          +6
          boriska screwed up in everything his policy undermined the defenses and status of RUSSIA for many years to come, as well as the initiator of glasnost and perestroika, with all the achievements of the USSR sold !!!!
        4. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 12: 53
          +1
          Get this geek out! So that he burns in hell with a blue flame !!!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 13: 37
            +4
            Gentlemen, judging by the minuses, in our country there are many who believe that a place for him is in paradise,
      4. Awards
        Awards 27 June 2012 11: 50
        +8
        Did someone expect other steps from our leadership? Someone believes that the authorities in our country are patriots ????????
        1. Van
          Van 27 June 2012 12: 33
          +7
          From Russia to Syria. It's like a knife in the back, I had a better opinion about the Russian government. sad
          1. ozs
            ozs 29 June 2012 14: 47
            +1
            Remember the situation with Libya, everything is the same
    2. Aleksey67
      Aleksey67 27 June 2012 08: 47
      +40
      Quote: Legion47
      These are not the actions that I expected from our leadership, I hope they have good reasons for this!

      Russia has created an echeloned air defense system in Syria (by the way, there is an S-300 there) and I suspect that under its own loans, it has carried out the rearmament of the Syrian army and the modification of military equipment and also under its own loans. In the world, oil prices are falling, and, consequently, the price of gas will fall, and many here are calling "we will overwhelm Syria with the S-300." "Let Abramovich fork out", "We will not betray Assad, like Libya" ... Let's think, are each of you ready to deduct 10% from your salary every month for the defense of Syria? winked Are there not enough thoughtless calls and is it time to understand that the supply of weapons is carried out by specialists who are better aware of what and how much is needed to maintain parity. wink
      PS I understand that now I will cause many to be indignant, but it is painful: Dmitry, (Legion47) Your profile says
      Location: Kazakhstan Almaty

      Handling the words
      These are not the actions that I expected from our management
      Do you mean Nazarbayev? Due to the Russian budget, S-300s were delivered to Kazakhstan free of charge and I support this decision our guides.
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 07
        +16
        Quote: Aleksey67
        and each of you is ready to deduct 10% of your salary every month for a year on the defense of Syria?


        Sirin no and poor Europe agree

        Russia will allocate another 10 billion dollars to the International Monetary Fund.
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 10
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          Russia will allocate another 10 billion dollars to the International Monetary Fund

          Vadim is not "non-returnable money", the IMF, as a bank, will lend them at interest and this money will be returned with%, as well as Russia for this business receives political and economic preferences winked
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 17
            +9
            Quote: Aleksey67
            this is not "returnless money"


            At the beginning of the year, the IMF published a forecast according to which about $ 2 trillion will be needed to support problem economies in the next 1 years.


            Our money was crying ....


            And at the same time - troubled countries will not receive "not a cent" from Germany - Merkel
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 25
              -5
              Quote: Vadivak
              At the beginning of the year, the IMF published a forecast according to which about $ 2 trillion will be needed to support troubled economies in the next 1 years. They cried our money .... And at the same time, troubled countries will not receive "not a cent" from Germany - Merkel


              According to Storchak's information, the G400 will actually confirm the amount requested by the IMF. "This figure should suit Ms. Lagarde," the deputy minister said. This week, the head of the IMF Christine Lagarde announced the need to increase the fund's resources by $ XNUMX billion. Additional resources have become necessary for a prompt response and counteraction to the crisis in the European region. The IMF provides credit support to the countries most acutely experiencing the debt crisis.

              According to preliminary data, the IMF will be able to raise at least $ 320 billion. Ms. Lagarde said that in recent days, $ 34 billion has been channeled to the fund, including $ 8 billion from Poland and "a significant amount" from Switzerland. Earlier, Denmark announced its decision to additionally provide the IMF with about $ 7 billion, Sweden - up to $ 10 billion, Norway - $ 9,3 billion, Japan - $ 60 billion, euro zone countries - $ 200 billion.

              Vadim, do you think the governments of these countries are "burning money in the furnace" or are they investing wisely? What is $ 8 billion for Poland and $ 10 billion for Russia is also indicative
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 09: 21
            +1
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Vadim is not "non-returnable money"

            Don’t bring nonsense !!! It is disgusting to read you! What nonsense !!! Problems need to be solved as they become available! and now the main problem is the expansion of NATO and the ousting of us from various regions of the world !!
          3. laurbalaur
            laurbalaur 27 June 2012 12: 15
            +2
            Inflation, absorb %%! And where are the preferences? The ghostly prospect of repealing the Broom?
          4. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 12: 54
            -1
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Vadim is not "non-returnable money"

            You are just funny!
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 27 June 2012 09: 09
        +16
        Quote: Aleksey67
        Russia has created a layered air defense in Syria and I suspect that under its loans, it has carried out the rearmament of the Syrian army and the modification of military equipment and also under its own loans.

        Russia cannot create a layered defense at home! What are you talking about??? What nonsense!
        Quote: Aleksey67
        Let’s think, and each of you is ready to pay 10% monthly on your monthly defense during the year from your salary?

        We have a rich country! Let billionaires deduct! As an option, raise taxes on oil and gas! There are many options, so do not touch ordinary people! They have not measured dough there! On 20-30 C-300 launchers will be found somehow! So do not go to extremes!
        Quote: Aleksey67
        and I support this decision of our leadership.

        Quote: Aleksey67
        and I support this decision of our leadership.

        Who would doubt you! But I don’t support it! Once I read about the crisis in the Indian Ocean! Well, when there India indulged in Pakistan! We were for India, and the United States for Pakistan! So, cheers, find it on the Internet and read how the competent leadership of the country acts in its national interests! Yes, they sent a fleet there and amers there their nose was wiped out in full!
        Or do you think that we can just merge Syria like we did with Libya ??? fool
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 16
          +2
          Quote: nycsson
          Russia cannot create a layered defense at home! What are you talking about??? What nonsense!

          In Russia, perhaps the most modern air defense in the world.
          Quote: nycsson
          We have a rich country! Let billionaires deduct! As an option, raise taxes on oil and gas! There are many options, so do not touch ordinary people! They have not measured dough there! On 20-30 C-300 launchers will be found somehow! So do not go to extremes!

          Yes you are an economist laughing Will Russian billionaires allocate funds for the defense of Syria? And it’s all for them, and tomorrow they’ll feed the hungry African?
          Quote: nycsson
          So, cheers, find it on the Internet and read how the competent leadership of the country acts in its national interests!

          It’s nothing that the USSR was then with a normal fleet (not the flaws as it is now) with a strong Warsaw Treaty, and not 1 / 15 from the USSR as it is now. So wipe the snot and march to school winked
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 09: 28
            +12
            Quote: Aleksey67
            In Russia, perhaps the most modern air defense in the world.

            What are you talking about??? Around Moscow - I agree !!!
            Quote: Aleksey67
            and you are an economist laughing Russian billionaires will allocate funds for the defense of Syria? And it’s all for them, and tomorrow they’ll feed the hungry African?

            No, I'm not an economist! But are they not living in Russia ??? Actually, I don’t give a damn where our government will take this money !!! And most importantly, did Syria really refuse to pay for C-300 ??? Yes, of course not !!! As well as Iran !!! Maybe you also explain in Iran ???
            Quote: Aleksey67
            It’s nothing that the USSR was then with a normal fleet (not the flaws as it is now) with a strong Warsaw Treaty, and not 1 / 15 from the USSR as it is now. So wipe the snot and march to school

            And whose merit is ?????????????????????? Isn’t your beloved authority ???????????? You live one day !!!, if you are in truth, according to your conclusions, support today's power !!!
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 33
              +10
              Quote: nycsson
              And whose merit is ?????????????????????



              Alexey does not need emotions, only facts

              Colonel General Nikolai Frolov, the head of the military air defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, “the ratio of the combat potentials of the air attack means of the potential enemy and the Russian air defense forces in practically all strategic directions was not in favor of the latter.”
              1. Aleksey67
                Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 46
                0
                Quote: Vadivak
                "The ratio of the combat potentials of the air attack means of the potential enemy and the Russian air defense forces in practically all strategic directions was not in favor of the latter."

                Vadim, if possible then give a link from where the quote is taken. I would like to get acquainted. He himself found only the performance of this general from 2008 but everything was positive there.
                The fact that Russia will argue the most advanced air defense systems? wink
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak 27 June 2012 10: 02
                  +1
                  Quote: Aleksey67
                  Vadim, if possible then give a link from where the quote is taken.


                  You can read Frolov’s speech by entering a copy of the text in any search engine

                  Quote: Aleksey67
                  The fact that Russia has the most advanced air defense systems will argue


                  name their number, then we bet, so why flood
                  1. Aleksey67
                    Aleksey67 27 June 2012 10: 15
                    -1
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    You can read Frolov’s speech by entering a copy of the text in any search engine

                    This is a performance dated May 2008 and there he insisted on increasing air defense systems. This is, according to the American model, to scare the layman and the authorities with a "threat" so that they allocate money for modernization and purchases.
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    name their number, then we bet, so why flood

                    I think that the number, composition and placement of air defense facilities is, if not state, then at least a military secret
                    1. Cadet787
                      Cadet787 27 June 2012 10: 50
                      +5
                      Alexey67.
                      Alexei, stop, with all due respect to you, you're wrong.
                    2. Vadivak
                      Vadivak 27 June 2012 10: 57
                      +5
                      Quote: Aleksey67
                      I think that the number, composition and placement of air defense facilities is, if not state, then at least a military secret


                      Also me a Bean Newton. S-400 as many as three divisions. One near Kaliningrad, two guess yourself
                      1. nycsson
                        nycsson 27 June 2012 13: 19
                        0
                        [quote = Vadivak] Also me Binom Newton. C-400 as many as three divisions. One near Kaliningrad, two guess yourself
                        That's for sure! We had air defense in Soviet times! And now there are only holes in the sky, with the exception of Moscow!
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 27 June 2012 10: 23
                +9
                But how is it without emotions? It's a shame for the power! And more facts than necessary! I just don’t understand people who look at the book, but see the fig!
              3. nycsson
                nycsson 27 June 2012 12: 56
                -1
                Quote: Vadivak
                Alexey does not need emotions, only facts

                A lot of question marks are not emotions, but only the significance of the question!
            2. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 37
              0
              Quote: nycsson
              Actually, I don’t give a damn where our government will take this money !!! And most importantly, did Syria really refuse to pay for the S-300 ??? No, of course !!!

              Syria has already written off billions of dollars in Soviet loans. Now weapons are also supplied to them on credit, which means that it is paid for from the Russian budget, and it is far from bottomless, besides, the conjuncture of prices on the hydrocarbon market is not the best for Russia now. But the fact that you don’t give a damn about it, we’ll see when your parents stop paying pensions, and if you’re a public sector employee, then you will shout "Where is our money?"
              Quote: nycsson
              And whose merit is it ?????????????????????? Isn’t your beloved authority ???????????? You live one day !!! You need to wipe the snot, and also remove the noodles from your ears, if you really, in accordance with your conclusions, support today's power !!!

              I don’t communicate with tantrums, it’s impossible to attribute me to hoo-patriots, I haven’t noticed me in my love for Pu, but as a citizen of Russia I support the sound accusations that her leadership
              1. Vadivak
                Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 49
                +2
                Quote: Aleksey67
                drool over the screen further, knock on the keyboard with your head


                I will remove it. And then it turns out a violation of the rules of the site
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 27 June 2012 12: 08
                  0
                  Klava will endure everything, Klava will endure everything! wassat fellow
                2. Odessa
                  Odessa 27 June 2012 12: 29
                  +6
                  Klava will endure everything, Klava will endure everything! wassat fellow wassat fellow
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 27 June 2012 13: 06
                    -2
                    HA HA HA !!!
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 27 June 2012 13: 04
                -3
                Quote: Aleksey67
                I don’t communicate with tantrums, it’s impossible to attribute me to hoo-patriots, I haven’t noticed me in my love for Pu, but as a citizen of Russia I support the sound accusations that her leadership

                A lot of question marks are not hysteria! I only attach importance to this issue! I communicate with stupid people and nothing .......
                And to whom can you be attributed? You are a pronounced jingoistic patriot! Are these some such robust undertakings? Refusal of deliveries of С-300 to Iran and Syria?
                You are just noticed in the love of Pu! This follows from all your comments!
              3. DERWISH
                DERWISH 27 June 2012 13: 13
                +3
                moreover, HERE A RETRIEVAL OF DEBT ????? dear you are our ----- SYRIA IS THE GATE OF INTERVENTION TO RUSSIA !!!! it does not cost any expenses of debts and recalculations !!! I hope you understand what this is about, and therefore the Amers are bargaining and slowing down on the issue of military operations, and therefore so many RUSSIAN funds are spent on Syria !!! and not because we decided to type
              4. serjio777
                serjio777 27 June 2012 17: 34
                +4

                Aleksey67
                moreover, the current market conditions for hydrocarbons are not the best for Russia.

                Damn Aleksey, as all the same, the amers have taught us to look at everything through money, I am amazed. Well, not everything is measured in them, no matter how much they’re standing up to us when we’ll get allies out of us.
            3. DERWISH
              DERWISH 27 June 2012 13: 04
              +1
              BRAVO !!! NYCSSON just sometimes our marshals and generals think they know and see much more than lieutenants !!!! laughingthey tried to spank me just the same yesterday on the positions of Ukraine
              1. Aleksey67
                Aleksey67 27 June 2012 13: 10
                +1
                Quote: DERWISH
                BRAVO !!! NYCSSON just sometimes our marshals and generals think they know and see much more than lieutenants !!!! laughing me yesterday just as tried to spank on the positions of Ukraine

                You are right here not the army, and therefore the comments of both the "cardboard marshal" and the "cardboard private" have the same weight and differ only in the adequacy of the opponent. But the fact that this fetish haunts some people makes you think ... Or do you think, what kind of bonuses are there for the titles? I assure you it is not
        2. Trapperxnumx
          Trapperxnumx 27 June 2012 10: 12
          +11
          Quote: nycsson
          to you! But I don’t support it! Once I read about the crisis in the Indian Ocean! Well, when there India indulged in Pakistan! We were for India, and the United States for Pakistan! So, cheers, find it on the Internet and read how the competent leadership of the country acts in its national interests! Yes, they sent a fleet there and amers there their nose was wiped out in full!
          Or do you think that we can just drain Syria, how to do it

          And you do not confuse the USSR and the Russian Federation. The USSR once held a grouping of ships in the Mediterranean Sea, comparable to amerskoy. We pissed away the USSR, now we are clearing it up. Or do you think that we have no direct agents of the United States among the "elite"? We LOST THE WAR and now we simply do not have the opportunity to act in the same way as we would have acted 25-30 years ago.
          1. Vadivak
            Vadivak 27 June 2012 10: 58
            +8
            Quote: Trapper7
            The USSR once in the Mediterranean Sea kept a group of ships,


            The base in Syria is valuable and there is no other
          2. vezunchik
            vezunchik 27 June 2012 11: 24
            +5
            "By his decree, Russian President Vladimir Putin appointed Elena Viktorovna Kozlova Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation," the statement says.
            Kozlova, before her appointment for more than a year, headed the control and financial inspection of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Prior to that, she was deputy head of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation.
            What is that supposed to mean? emancipation???
            1. vadimN
              vadimN 27 June 2012 12: 16
              +4
              not emancipation, but promotion of friends and colleagues (in the tax service) of Minister of Defense Serdyukov to the hot spots ...
            2. Vadivak
              Vadivak 27 June 2012 12: 39
              +3
              Quote: vezunchik
              Prior to that, she was deputy head of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation.


              Add more about furniture
            3. nycsson
              nycsson 27 June 2012 13: 10
              0
              Quote: vezunchik
              "By his decree, Russian President Vladimir Putin appointed Elena Viktorovna Kozlova Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation," the statement says.
              Kozlova, before her appointment for more than a year, headed the control and financial inspection of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation. Prior to that, she was deputy head of the Federal Tax Service of the Russian Federation.
              What is that supposed to mean? emancipation???

              Here you have the personnel policy! So do not throw all the sticks on Serdyukov! Supreme in the subject ........
          3. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 11: 40
            +2
            Trapper 7
            And I don’t confuse! And I know no worse than you what was then, and what we have now! Your suggestions please to the studio! Here is a specific situation for you: the West wants to conquer Syria with Iran, and then enter the Caucasus and Central Asia! Well, then to Russia! What do we do? Sit and wait! It seems to me that measures need to be taken! Waiting for your reasoning ...
            1. Trapperxnumx
              Trapperxnumx 27 June 2012 11: 50
              0
              In order not to repeat
              Read the message from korvin1976 and my answer (consent). There are all my thoughts on this topic. If offended - call)))
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 27 June 2012 13: 26
                -2
                Quote: Trapper7
                In order not to repeat
                Read the message from korvin1976 and my answer (consent). There are all my thoughts on this topic. If offended - call)))

                Something I did not find! You will repeat yourself! What do you think should be done? No, they didn’t offend you, what did you get?
                1. Trapperxnumx
                  Trapperxnumx 27 June 2012 17: 03
                  -1
                  nycsson,
                  korvin1976
                  + 100. I completely agree. A little early for conclusions. We DO NOT KNOW what Putin was talking with American Maxim (Obama), it is quite possible that the start of the operation against Syria is scheduled for such a period that we either do not have time to deliver, or already set, deploy. Who knows, maybe the Yankees are so cowardly about С300 that continuing supplies will mean war - in order to attack now, and not later, and we thus win the world. No one knows what Putin promised in return for this - maintaining normal oil prices or some other nishtyaks. And the fact that our diplomacy and the military-industrial complex continue to defend Syria is already an indicator that our country, despite the defeat in the Cold War and the loss of sovereignty (yes, exactly), continues to pursue its own policy, even if not 100%, as we would all like. In such a tense situation, any careless action, but what is the action - the word. can provoke a conflict, and for us a delay in the conflict is certainly more desirable, because in this way the United States pays less attention to us.
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 27 June 2012 18: 18
                    -1
                    Quote: Trapper7
                    The USA pays less attention to us.

                    This is not what I wanted to read from you! How much will we pull? I would agree with you if our management took any action! For example, I would decide to increase the staffing of aircraft in the Air Force with a sharp increase in their production, and not only of the aircraft, but of everything else! However, we see some reductions in the army and other incomprehensible actions! The army is built on the principle of NATO! What for? Why destroy ammunition depots and machine guns? Why does the NHS declare that in the next five years we have no enemies, etc. In short, there are more questions than answers ......
                  2. ATATA
                    ATATA 28 June 2012 19: 34
                    0
                    Quote: Trapper7
                    No one knows what Putin promised in return for this - maintaining normal oil prices or some other nishtyaks.

                    But it would be nice to find out, otherwise there are no secrets from amers?!, But are we guessing from the people? ...
          4. serjio777
            serjio777 27 June 2012 17: 39
            0

            Trapperxnumx
            We LOSED WAR and now we simply do not have the opportunity to act in the same way as we would have acted 25-30 years ago.

            But is this said here? We must use the opportunities that are now — and the supply of the S-300 is now in our capabilities.
        3. Odious
          Odious 27 June 2012 11: 28
          +2
          nycsson
          So, cheers, find it on the Internet and read how the competent leadership of the country acts in its national interests!

          My +. The linden marshal had to be put in place for a long time.
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 27 June 2012 11: 35
            +1
            Quote: Odious
            The linden marshal had to be put in place for a long time.

            Put me in my place laughing But why are these cardboard shoulder straps haunted by you? Complexes? I communicate on this site with people without looking at what they have under the avatar for the title and I look at the adequacy of people and not at the "imaginary title". However, the nickname "Odious" and even "With a pitchfork" is awe-inspiring and ugly wassat
            1. DERWISH
              DERWISH 27 June 2012 13: 21
              +1
              As for the epaulette, you’re wrong !!!! apparently they didn’t serve in the army ??? and if they didn’t serve as an officer, it’s for sure, since the PASSES ARE THE REWARDS AND SERVICE, and this is the same as omitting the person who earns these awards with blood !!! EXACTLY CARD !! bully


              Quote Report Site Violation
              !!!
              1. Odious
                Odious 27 June 2012 13: 48
                -1
                DERWISH
                YOUR EXACTLY CARD !!

                On the site? Yes. I gladly admit, unlike the famous admirals.
          2. DERWISH
            DERWISH 27 June 2012 13: 17
            -1
            I support !!!!
      3. Ruslan
        Ruslan 27 June 2012 09: 14
        +13
        Quote: Aleksey67
        Let’s think, and each of you is ready to pay 10% monthly on your monthly defense during the year from your salary?
        After Syria falls, all this extremist evil will end up in the Caucasus and Tatarstan, and then you will have to pay with your ass and not 10, etc. As Natanyahu said at a meeting with Putin, we have a lot in common with Russia - and this is true in both countries the Jewish government with Mendelles - the elections are over, it's time to get used to reality.
        1. OSTAP BENDER
          OSTAP BENDER 27 June 2012 11: 00
          +8
          Alexey67! Sorry, but it seems to me you're just trying to justify the actions of the leadership, and these actions are surprisingly mild to say, more and more often, and not only regarding Syria!
        2. Odious
          Odious 27 June 2012 12: 03
          0
          My admiral, I said everything! wink
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 14: 24
          -1
          Quote: Ruslan
          As Natanyahu said at a meeting with Putin - we have a lot in common with Russia - and this is true in both countries the Jewish government with Mendel - the elections have ended it's time to get used to reality.

          Have you watched the Israeli Prime Minister meet the GDP? Yes, he did not even get up when he held out his hand! Maybe it’s so customary there?
      4. oper66
        oper66 27 June 2012 09: 15
        +11
        Greetings, Alex! Purely from the economic point of view, the question you posed with an edge is correct — there must be profit — enterprises cannot work for saving and the state treasury is not a bottomless well. At one time, much was given to Syria and other states under the guarantees of their leaders - in the end, -Z. Leaders no debts written off. But there are also promising long-term interests for the future - what reason for the refusal to supply is not known and it is possible that the air defense systems will be delivered not by sea so by air. Only if currently done for the sake of shaving, is this the last exhalation of the independent policy of the Russian Federation under the current type of management. The state has money — for some reason it is used only where necessary — and where it is profitable. But the loss of a political ally in the person of Syria and Iran opposing skin-shaving - is equal to the loss of independence for us - as they say this is the last frontier - they will continue to beat us on our land and one of the leaders will order not to shoot, which then
      5. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 June 2012 09: 18
        -8
        Hi Alexey!
        I fully support!
        And plus it is not clear who will replace Assad! ??
        Do it yourself do not know who to arm anyone with a formidable weapon ??
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 09: 43
          +7
          Alibek Early Assad you bury
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 June 2012 09: 53
            0
            Alexander!
            Sooner or later, it will happen and not see it is like digging your head in the sand and engage in self-deception!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 10: 47
              +7
              Alibek, you offer to vote in the United Nations for a non-flying zone over Syria. Then why all efforts to restrain aggression
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 June 2012 13: 06
                -2
                Alexander!
                I suggest not to panic and soberly assess the situation!
            2. Armata
              Armata 27 June 2012 10: 51
              +7
              Quote: Yarbay
              Sooner or later, it will happen and not see it is like digging your head in the sand and engage in self-deception!

              Greetings Alibek. This will certainly happen, but only this issue should not be resolved by military means, especially the occupation of Syria. And we will eat up that after the election a man will come to his place who will also be oriented towards friendship with Russia, and not for the expansion of NATO in the east.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 01
                +9
                Eugene, they’re trying to throw away Assad not in order to plant a man loyal to Russia instead
                1. Armata
                  Armata 27 June 2012 11: 12
                  +3
                  Yes, I understand that. Therefore, I say that the conflict should not be resolved by military means.
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 26
                    +5
                    Clinton has a different opinion, that there would be no warriors there should be ours, a bunch of cutthroats in Odkb misses. Nato understands nothing but strength
                    1. Armata
                      Armata 27 June 2012 11: 48
                      +2
                      That's for sure. Only the contingent should be from all CSTO countries, and not just from Russia.
              2. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 June 2012 13: 12
                -3
                Hello Eugene!
                I will correct you a little!
                We must work actively in the direction so that whoever comes would be adequate !!
                All the same, I come to the conclusion that Assad will be finished from the inside and that I am sure of it!
                Without external intervention, otherwise this downed plane was an excellent occasion!
                Apparently, Syria needed external intervention, perhaps to consolidate society inside, but these are my guesses, maybe I'm mistaken!
      6. pribolt
        pribolt 27 June 2012 09: 25
        +3
        Quote: Aleksey67
        In the world, oil prices are falling, and, consequently, the price of gas will fall, and many here are calling "we will overwhelm Syria with the S-300." "Let Abramovich fork out", "We will not betray Assad, like Libya" ... Let's think, are each of you ready to deduct 10% from your salary every month for the defense of Syria?

        I agree, we should not pay C 300 for them, they should pay, giving a loan is now too risky, if Assad does not retain power, the new Syrian government may refuse to pay this loan. It hurts when Iran paid us real money, we refused the supply of C 300.
      7. Trailer
        Trailer 27 June 2012 09: 47
        +6
        Kazakhstan and Russia also border the Caspian. The Caspian is the direct road to Iran - Iran is the key partner of Syria, and Syria is its only ally in the Middle East! We threw Iran’s only ally, therefore - it will soon capture Iran, therefore, then NATO will come to the Caspian! And whose oil smells here, in your opinion?
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 55
          +3
          Quote: Karavan
          We threw Iran's only ally

          Again 25 !!! Did Nazarbayev throw Syria or did you personally? I didn’t throw it ... When Russia arms Syria for its own money, it’s "we", and when you pay for gas or other interstate payments, then "they" are here. That is, at the Russian "expense" we are all united, and "tobacco apart"
          1. Trailer
            Trailer 27 June 2012 10: 26
            +4
            Before the fire, all animals are equal! We can pinch the grass separately, but as something hot flies that can only be stopped together, then, yes, we must be together!
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 10: 31
              +5
              Quote: Karavan
              We can pluck grass separately

              Here it is fundamental in post-Soviet history, pinching weed and kicking Russia ...
              Quote: Karavan
              what can only be stopped together

              Tell me in more detail about who together, besides Russia (diplomatically and by loans) and China (diplomatically) supports Syria? Ukraine, Kazakhstan .... who? What kind of community can we talk about ...
              1. Focuser
                Focuser 27 June 2012 11: 34
                +4
                You talked very subtly about arms transfers to Syria
                Quote: Aleksey67
                Are there not enough thoughtless calls and is it time to understand that the supply of weapons is carried out by specialists who are better aware of what and how much is needed to maintain parity

                but you are very clumsy to talk about politics here.
                We (Kazakhstan), China and Russia are in different "weight categories" in the political arena, and it is clear that even if we support Syria diplomatically, this will not change the situation at all.
                Probably after all, there are no thoughtless appeals here, and politicians better know who and when it makes sense to support. The case is subtle.
                1. Aleksey67
                  Aleksey67 27 June 2012 11: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: Focker
                  Probably after all, there are no thoughtless appeals here, and politicians better know who and when it makes sense to support. The case is subtle.

                  My statement was sent solely in response to a cue
                  Quote: Karavan
                  We can pinch the grass separately, but as something hot flies that can only be stopped together, then, yes, we must be together!

                  it reminds (to me personally) of a quote from the famous fable "We plowed ..." I already got enough of reading the comments of Ukrainians, Kazakhs and others that "Syria was surrendered", and ...
                  Before that, I know of only one case of "help" from Ukraine, this was when Ukrainian air defense crews were removed from combat duty and redeployed to Georgia. am Kazakhstan is a real ally of Russia, there are only positive emotions, but I repeat, let's determine the citizens of which countries we are and speak only on their behalf. It jars me when a Ukrainian speaks on behalf of Russia
                  1. Focuser
                    Focuser 27 June 2012 12: 23
                    +5
                    Quote: Aleksey67
                    I repeat, let's identify the citizens of which countries we are and speak only on their behalf. It jars me when a Ukrainian speaks on behalf of Russia

                    I don’t understand you, Alexey. There are a lot of people who were born in the USSR, but now live in one of the independent republics. Such people still associate themselves not only with their republic, but also with Russia and / or other former countries. USSR too. I'm not talking about the fact that many of them are Russians by nationality. That is why they say they hit us when they touched Russia. For example, I think that it is very good when people from ex. The Soviet Union perceives the problems of Russia.
                    We are here generally building the Customs Union and many are talking about even closer cooperation, almost creating a union state, and you are worried when people associate themselves with Russia too
                    1. Ataturk
                      Ataturk 27 June 2012 12: 26
                      -1
                      Quote: Focker
                      I don’t understand you, Alexey. There are a lot of people who were born in the USSR


                      It got to me. In short, each one scolds his radish. Good or bad, he is mine.
                    2. Yarbay
                      Yarbay 27 June 2012 13: 40
                      +4
                      I will again support Aleksey, who and what is stopping Kazakhstan from putting its S-300s on credit, all the more so will they receive the S-400s !?
                      That’s what happens when Lukashenko wants to, but doesn’t panic and it’s mine in a manly way !!
            2. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 15: 02
              +2
              Quote: Karavan
              We can pinch the grass separately, but as something hot flies that can only be stopped together, then, yes, we must be together!

              I did not want to return to the controversy, but today's news made:
              Chirkin: Tajikistan put forward unacceptable conditions for the deployment of a Russian military base

              27 June 2012, 14: 46

              The issue of the further deployment of the 2014st Russian military base in Tajikistan after 201 is still unresolved, since authorities are making unacceptable demands, Colonel General Vladimir Chirkin, Commander-in-Chief of the Ground Forces, said on Wednesday.

              «Tajikistan puts forward completely impossible requirements that run counter to our proposals. It creates a situation that may be unsolvable at all. "- said Chirkin, Interfax reports.

              Chirkin recalled that in 2014, the agreement expires. “And the question may arise whether we will be there or nott, ”said the general.


              And further thesis:
              Azerbaijan and radar
              Ukraine and the Black Sea Fleet
              Kyrgyzstan and payment of bases
              Tajikistan and the arrest of pilots

              Good "cohesion" is evident.
      8. viruskvartirus
        viruskvartirus 27 June 2012 10: 12
        +1
        All hotheads should be reminded of the history of deliveries to Arabs on credit .... they delivered, they delivered, but they shoveled and then did not return the money. There is a good proverb, friendship, friendship, and tobacco ... especially since they are not friends ...
      9. Cadet787
        Cadet787 27 June 2012 10: 40
        +7
        Alexey67.
        Greetings, Alex. If you do not want to pay 10 percent, then you will pay one hundred percent to overseas uncles, or rather, they will take everything from you.
      10. Morok
        Morok 27 June 2012 11: 31
        +3
        I agree completely with you, Alex.
        First, we scold the USSR for "feeding all of Africa", and then we scold Putin for not giving Syria a freebie.
        It is necessary to support, but within reason. Dividends from support should be more than costs. Otherwise, why the hell is it for all of us?
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 14: 55
          +2
          Quote: Morok
          Dividends from support should be more than costs. Otherwise, why the hell is it for all of us?

          That is the principle by which the USA acts! I laugh at when they say that the United States spent a lot of bucks on the Iraq war! Well, firstly, nobody controls their printing press, and secondly, no matter how much they spend, they compensate with interest! Well done boys.........
      11. Focuser
        Focuser 27 June 2012 11: 46
        +1
        Quote: Aleksey67
        Handling the words

        These are not the actions that I expected from our management

        Do you mean Nazarbayev? Due to the Russian budget, S-300s were delivered to Kazakhstan free of charge and I support this decision our guides.

        Man put it that way, because he associates himself with Russia too. This portal so often expresses people from different former republics. THE USSR. It is strange that you have not noticed yet.
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 12: 04
          +4
          Quote: Focker
          This portal so often expresses people from different former republics. THE USSR. It is strange that you have not noticed yet.

          Everyone considers themselves terribly independent, self-sufficient and independent, Russia, which single-handedly paid the debts of the USSR, is accused of imperialism and surrender of everyone and everything, but as for "sponsorship" from the Russian budget, then "we" associate ourselves with Russia, and how 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX and kill Russian peacekeepers, then not a single country included in the CSTO provided a single soldier ... And so why "you can chew weed alone."
          Again, now the calls "send our marines" "send our ships", consider a hypothetical situation in which our marines will begin to be massively killed, and our ships sink, so what? Something I doubt that we will not be left alone against NATO ...
          1. Focuser
            Focuser 27 June 2012 12: 56
            0
            I think that if a hypothetical case becomes a reality, then this will be the beginning of the third world war and you won’t sit aside there)) Either with Russia or against. It is obvious to me which side Kazakhstan will take.
          2. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 June 2012 15: 03
            -1
            *** Russia, which alone paid the debts of the USSR *** - here Alexey does not agree with you!
            You probably know better than me why Russia agreed to pay alone, and what a blessing it has gained!
            A large part of the debt for Russia was then written off for the complaisance and understanding of Yeltsin!
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 15: 16
              +2
              Quote: Yarbay
              Russia, which alone paid the debts of the USSR *** - here I disagree with you

              Russia alone paid the debts of the USSR as its legal successor. What can you disagree with here? Which country was still involved in repayment?
              Quote: Yarbay
              You probably know better than me why Russia agreed to pay alone, and what a blessing it has gained!

              Acquired foreign assets of the USSR
              Quote: Yarbay
              A large part of the debt for Russia was then written off for the complaisance and understanding of Yeltsin!

              Nobody wrote off anything to us, moreover, the Paris Club reduced the debt of countries that owed the USSR by 50%
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 June 2012 15: 24
                +2
                Not only the assets of the USSR, but also the place of the Permanent Member of the UN Security Council with the right of veto?
                this is your little Alex?
                and the assets of the USSR were rather big !!
                1. DavidTheLincher
                  DavidTheLincher 27 June 2012 15: 26
                  -1
                  And the debts are not small either.
                  Debts were made in the place, including to build the Gabala radar station, and only Russia was blown away.
                  Azerbaijan not only paid nothing, but also decided to make money on it
      12. serjio777
        serjio777 27 June 2012 17: 23
        0
        Isn’t it time to understand that the supply of weapons is carried out by specialists who are better aware of what and how much is needed to maintain parity

        If the so-called liberalists were not standing above these experts, I would be much calmer if I were a chessman.
    3. EMILPOLAK
      EMILPOLAK 27 June 2012 08: 47
      +12
      Iran was also denied S-300 at the request of the West. so China put their air defense systems to them request
      1. radikdan79
        radikdan79 27 June 2012 08: 49
        +5
        EMILPOLAK,
        this is politics. and all the subtleties of this game we do not understand
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 09
          +2
          Quote: radikdan79
          this is politics. and all the subtleties of this game we do not understand


          There are no subtleties here. Bought and sold
      2. Goga
        Goga 27 June 2012 09: 05
        +17
        EMILPOLAK - quote - "this is how China supplied them with its air defense systems" - and Belarus also supplied them with S-300 - guess whose production from two times? Eventually:
        - S-300 - in Iran
        - Russia - "white and fluffy"
        - And what to take from "Old Man"? Old Man he is Old Man ...
      3. Mobidic
        Mobidic 27 June 2012 11: 22
        0
        Quote: EMILPOLAK
        Iran was also denied S-300 at the request of the West. so China put their air defense systems to them

        Maybe this is a tricky move in which China acted as an intermediary, maybe China saw these S-300s only directly during the transfer to Iran)
    4. Vadivak
      Vadivak 27 June 2012 09: 03
      +1
      Quote: Legion47
      These are not the actions that I expected from our leadership, I hope they have good reasons for this.




      Last year, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan signed a contract with Rosoboronexport for the supply of two divisions of the S-300 PMU-2 anti-aircraft missile system (SAM)

      In July 2010, the representative of Rosoboronexport Alexander Emelyanov announced the successful completion of the Russian-Turkish contract for the supply to Turkey of a large batch of Kornet-E anti-tank missile systems. The contract for the supply of Kornet-E ATGMs to Turkey was signed in August 2008. According to unofficial data, the contract amounted to about $ 70 million.
      1. 755962
        755962 27 June 2012 09: 22
        +5
        I was blown away yesterday when I shared this news. And what is so unusual about it? If you want, it’s political trade. Losing something in the political arena, we get something else. I think in this case there’s an exchange for the jamming of the case of F-4 IMHO. Everything else
        Russia has fulfilled or continues to fulfill contracts for the supply to Syria of the Buk M-2 medium-range air defense systems, the Pantsir-S short-range anti-aircraft missile and cannon system and the modernization of the S-125 complex according to the Pechora-2M variant, which makes the air defense Syria is a force that needs to be taken into account in the planning of the West bombing against this country.
        “NATO is aware that Syria is not Libya. Of course, the Syrian military potential is holding them back,” Sergei Markov, a member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, director of the Institute of Political Research, told Interfax. “Hillary Clinton did not just say that one cannot be superficial about the bombing of Syria, the level of air defense of which is three orders of magnitude higher than the Libyan one. NATO is well aware that even attempts to air attacks on Syria will lead to real combat losses of the alliance. Thus, direct military intervention will cost the alliance too much blood. " http://www.newsru.com/world/26jun2012/syr.html#s300
        1. DERWISH
          DERWISH 27 June 2012 13: 30
          +1
          I very much hope that NATO losses will be disproportionately greater
        2. zaxooz
          zaxooz 27 June 2012 15: 11
          -2
          Quote: 755962
          I think in this case there is an exchange for the jam of the case of F-4 IMHO


          IMHO to hide so that people do not die here with laughter ...
          1. 755962
            755962 27 June 2012 15: 58
            +1
            Quote: zaxooz
            IMHO to hide so that people do not die here with laughter ...

            If people like you do not mind ...
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 June 2012 09: 32
        -5
        As far as I know, these are the very complexes !!
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 09: 47
        +2
        And today, these cornet hollow Syrian tanks, a great deal
    5. basal
      basal 27 June 2012 09: 34
      +2
      So late to drink Borjomi then! All figures are arranged, the party has begun. Now supplying such equipment is simply risky, including in view of the possibility of capturing it not by those who need it. Yes, we didn’t have time to ship something before the start of the hot phase of events, what can we do ...
      1. KGB161rus
        KGB161rus 27 June 2012 09: 39
        +1
        Russia has canceled the contract for the supply of S-300PMU-2 systems to Iran, despite the fact that international sanctions do not prohibit the supply of such weapons to the Islamic Republic.

        This is misinformation, and you "hawk", just because of the sanctions, Iran is not allowed to sell such weapons until now, now our diplomats are trying to lift those same sanctions, and here with Syria the same nonsense!
    6. Trailer
      Trailer 27 June 2012 09: 43
      0
      Where is Aksakal? We begin to monitor the implementation of paragraph three:
      3. Russia will throw Syria
    7. zaxooz
      zaxooz 27 June 2012 10: 54
      +8


      why so unexpected?
      1. Slayer
        Slayer 27 June 2012 11: 23
        +5
        Quote: nycsson
        Let’s think, and each of you is ready to pay 10% monthly on your monthly defense during the year from your salary?

        Let it be known to you that if we received dividends from the sale of at least 40% of our resources, then every citizen of the Russian Federation would receive about 4 million rubles a month. Where do you think such money goes? Well, not in our pocket is a fact. And they have enough money to simply fill up Syria with weapons.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 15: 19
          -1
          Quote: Slayer
          Let it be known to you that if we received dividends from the sale of at least 40% of our resources, then every citizen of the Russian Federation would receive about 4 million rubles a month. Where do you think such money goes? Well, not in our pocket is a fact. And they have enough money to simply fill up Syria with weapons.

          You didn’t comment on my words! This was written by Alex 67!
          And I completely agree with you!
      2. Good Ukraine
        Good Ukraine 27 May 2013 18: 13
        0
        hi
        Quote: zaxooz
        why so unexpected?


        Today I read: At the meeting between VVP and Netanyahu, "VVP convinced Netanyahu that C 300 will definitely be delivered to Syria"

        And the article is a rotten order on a weekend day.
    8. Ataturk
      Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Legion47
      These are not the actions that I expected from our leadership, I hope they have good reasons for this!


      Exactly the same reasons when Russia refused the S-300 for Iran. Alas.
      We won’t wait much longer, if they really don’t give the S-300 to Syria, then the guys from Russia should already understand who the Kremlin is working for and nothing good for the Russian people, this president and his gang does not promise!

      And if in spite of everything Syria will be given the S-300, then there is a chance for a bright future.
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 27 June 2012 11: 26
        +3
        Omar, we must respect the presidents and the government of other countries until they have compromised themselves (a hint of Georgia laughing ) I do not know what prompted you to insult my president
        for whom the Kremlin works and is nothing good for the Russian people, this president and his gang does not promise!
        but I accept for myself that from now on, when discussing articles on Azerbaijani topics, I will deviate from my principles and respond adequately to your statement about Aliyev and his gang. Without respect, Alex
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 35
          +2
          Alexei, and what was your expectation of Putin’s attitude from the lobster, he often does it. it’s not clear what surprised you. It is necessary to remain within the framework and not pay attention to this.
          1. Ataturk
            Ataturk 27 June 2012 12: 13
            -4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Alexei, what was your attitude to Putin?

            Bad but mine? - are these the rules? Considering what I wrote about Putin, it’s true, if what they showed about Putin is true, I don’t regret what I wrote. If the president, steals his people, does not work for the good of his people, then I will not refuse my words from that people.

            Unlike you, if you scold (Although on the topic of the radar, you have repeatedly expressed negatively about President Aliyev, although I did not give you an answer) and if you prove to me that Aliyev is a radish, and I know who the radish really is in Azerbaijan, I will support you. Have a policy of double standards, comrade Romanov! It doesn’t overcharge you!

            I don’t need you to post to my posts. I noticed the foresight of your posts a couple of times! League would be something to write.

            In politics, I am not an amateur. And I repeat again, I am for the people. And if you want me to name a couple of lines that make me not respect Putin, I can list you. Although I will say 1 reason.

            1. From Afghanistan to Iran from Iran to Azerbaijan and from Azerbaijan to Russia, wagons driven by heroin go. They’re not checking it anywhere !!! Riding escort. The highest ranks of Russia are involved in this. Although I am sure they are being driven through Tajikistan !!!

            Enough? or should I continue?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 13: 50
              +1
              And I didn’t think, could you give an example where I insult Aliyev, no, I have a culture and I try to stay within the limits whenever possible ,! I support Armenia and you Omar know it well., But not even looking at it, seeing what kind of dirt you are pouring on the Armenian, I remain unconvinced and do not spit on Aliyev, Azerbaijan, no one! Here it is such a policy of double standards
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay 27 June 2012 14: 02
                -2
                Alexander!
                I think you are distorting!
                Especially know Omar!
                It seems to me and I'm sure that he has no malicious intent!
                As for the one you support in our conflict, this is your right!
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 28 June 2012 05: 53
                  +1
                  Alibek, I don’t even have
              2. Ataturk
                Ataturk 27 June 2012 14: 09
                -3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I support Armenia and you Omar know it well

                I just found out about it. If I knew this before, then I would not even look in your direction. This is 100% Since I know one saying, show me your friend, I will tell you who you are! So goodbye. My conversation with you is over forever! A person who supports the murderers of my people cannot become an interlocutor for me.

                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Here it is such a policy of double standards

                I knew that before. I’ll take you into account and wind my lips.
            2. DavidTheLincher
              DavidTheLincher 27 June 2012 14: 40
              +2
              Lobster.
              Do it right that hold on to Aliyev.
              Ilham will stand another term and you will never be in Artsakh.
              And so he is just darling.
              I mastered such boobs to my wife !!! laughing
            3. with
              with 27 June 2012 16: 51
              +2
              Quote: Ataturk
              From Afghanistan to Iran from Iran to Azerbaijan and from Azerbaijan to Russia, wagons driven by heroin go.

              How much is a gram? bully
            4. Reks
              Reks 28 June 2012 02: 53
              -2
              Quote: Ataturk
              I noticed the foresight of your posts a couple of times! League would be something to write.

              laughing oooh free analyst ??? and in my opinion what do you summarize ??? laughing
              Quote: Ataturk
              In politics, I am not an amateur. And I repeat again, I am for the people
              Think about yours! In Russia, the crowds of Azerbaijanis are mostly illegal. Most of us, as they say, "just came down from the mountains."
              second graders level. wassat although you can understand by human beings ... you can't make money at home, so they come to us ..... one came and the whole "aul" drags along ... diasporas ... read the mafia .. drinks DEAR. Why do we prescribe ourselves to take care of .... Yes, and your squabble with the Armenians .... Just cut each other ??? wassat
        2. Ataturk
          Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 35
          0
          Quote: Aleksey67

          Omar, it is necessary to respect the presidents and the government of other countries until they have compromised themselves (a hint of Georgia) I do not know what inspired you to insult my president


          Dear Alexey, as I said earlier, I do not respect politics and the Kremlin. I do not refuse my words. I respect the simple Russian people. I see and hear from my friends who work as military men and they tell me everything.
          And they say the following: That they reduce the nuclear stock under the dictation of the USA, they cut the hoses. My friend is a colonel in the Pacific Fleet. There he works on Sakhalin, St. Petersburg himself.

          I don’t care, the president of Azerbaijan or the USA or Russia, if the people are suffering, then he is REDISKA.

          And the Russian people are suffering. Alas.

          With great respect to the Russian people and to you.
          Lobster.

          I have said more than once, the Aliyev clan has 3 people, my will would be to shoot them myself. I have a claim to 3 people in the Azerbaijani cabinet.
          1. DavidTheLincher
            DavidTheLincher 27 June 2012 14: 53
            +1
            Bound by one hatred (almost Plutarch)

            Everything in the Azerbaijan Republic was artificial,
            “Fake,” starting with the name ...

            A. Denikin

            The free and independent social democratic government of the state of Georgia will forever remain in my memory as a classic example of an imperialist "small nation" both on the issue of external territorial conquests and in bureaucratic tyranny within the country. Its chauvinism is beyond all borders.

            Bechhofer CE In Denikin`s Russia and the Caucasus. 1919-1920. - London, 1921. p.14

            After the collapse of the USSR, Georgia and Azerbaijan were formed, among others, in the southern Caucasus. They are recognized by the international community, their flags are waving in front of the UN headquarters, they receive multi-billion dollar sums from sponsors, they are full of arrogance and arrogance ... With external, facade, differences between them are much more common, which allows us to make their “comparative biographies”. So…

            After the collapse of the USSR, Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno-Karabakh refused to join the newly formed Georgia and Azerbaijan, using, like themselves, their right to self-determination, USSR laws and UN provisions. The wars that were started and regularly lost with the neighbors, the apparent inability to annex them led to civil wars and a mess of coups, as a result of which M. Saakashvili came to power in Georgia, and the medieval hereditary monarchy of the Aliyevs was established in Azerbaijan, in accordance with the Turkish mentality (by the way, so far the only one in the former USSR).
            Having come to power as a result of a palace coup, E. Shevardnadze, who threw off his patron and became president M. Saakashvili, soon cracked down on his associates. The death of Prime Minister Zurab Zhvania remained a great secret, and parliamentary speaker Nino Burjanadze went into opposition and became his implacable enemy. G. Aliyev came to power on the bayonets of S. Huseynov, who raised the military insurrection, whom he appointed prime minister, and soon put him in prison. Aliyev Jr. forged the signature of his father and became president after him, in fact, also as a result of the coup.
            Now Georgia lives on the generous promises of sponsors to become a model of democracy, a ray of light in the dark kingdom of the former USSR and to ensure the transit of petroleum products from Azerbaijan to Turkey and Europe, and Azerbaijan - the sale of these petroleum products. In no way are they to the “elder brothers” uninteresting; the next day, when for some reason they cease to perform these functions, they will be forgotten.

            Strictly speaking, it is wrong to call them states, since they do not satisfy the basic requirements presented to states. According to the Montevideo Convention of 1936, “a state, as a subject of international law, must possess the following features:
            • (a) resident population;
            • (b) a specific territory;
            • (c) the government;
            • (d) the ability to enter into relations with other states. ”

            However, neither Georgia nor Azerbaijan have a second attribute. - a certain territory, since both claim to be in neighboring countries, which they do not belong to and will not belong to. Both emphasize that during the USSR their neighbors were part of the Cargo. SSR and Az. SSR, equally suffering from selective amnesia, remember only what is beneficial to them; as the hero of the famous comedy said: "I remember, here - I don’t remember." Having proclaimed the "restoration" of independence and succession to the GDR (Georgian Democratic Republic of 1918-1921) and the ADR (Azerbaijan Democratic Republic of 1918-1921), and refusing the succession of the GSSR and the Azerbaijan SSR, they do not want to abandon Abkhazia and South Ossetia and Karabakh, which were part of the GSSR and Az.SSR, appealing to the fact that they were admitted to the UN with the territories of neighboring countries, which, therefore, "separated illegally and are not recognized by the international community."

            However, the UN has long turned into an incapable talking room, which itself does not solve anything, where the conditions of the game are dictated not by international law, but by NATO law (who is stronger, he is right). As for the rule of law, it would be better for them to remain silent at all, because if the law is the same for all, then it is the same for all of these five countries; otherwise, it’s not reasonable to explain why the same law for Georgia with Azerbaijan should be different than for Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Karabakh?

            Finally, according to article 3 of the same Convention, “The political existence of a state does not depend on recognition by other states. Even before recognition, the state has the right to protect its integrity and independence to ensure its preservation and prosperity, and, therefore, shape itself in such a way as it sees fit, legislate in accordance with its interests, manage its services, and determine jurisdictions and competencies their ships. The exercise of these rights has no other restrictions than the exercise of the rights of other states in accordance with international law, because (Article 4) “States are legally equal, enjoy the same rights and have equal opportunities to exercise them. The rights of each state do not depend on the power it possesses to ensure its implementation, but on the simple fact of its existence as a subject, in accordance with international law. ” Waving the phage of non-recognition, they studiously do not want to know that (Article 6): “Recognition of a state only means that the state that recognizes it accepts the legal personality of another state with all the rights and obligations established by international law.”

            Both states are now racing against death: either they will have time to assimilate or survive the non-titular peoples, or the centrifugal forces representing the indigenous peoples will tear both of these entities to shreds. At one time, G. Aliyev boasted of his policy on the Turkization of Karabakh. In open Stepanakert Pedagogical Institute (and those in status were supposed to all regional centers - so to speak, forges of local cadres), Turks from neighboring, and not only, districts began to be accepted from it. These students relied on all sorts of benefits and allowances so that after graduation they stay in Karabakh - so that the Turkish population grows and multiplies even more and faster. They tried to do the same in 1988-89, when all the money allocated by Moscow for the development of the region went to villages populated by the Turks.

            Georgia is now gasifying Javakhk; finally, it has built roads connecting it with Tbilisi. At first glance, paternal concern for the development of the region, but ... The policy of resettlement of Georgians, Svans and Ajarian Muslims to Javakhk is strongly encouraged and funded. Under the pretext that their villages in Adjara are in an unfavorable zone (rains are frequent and landslides are possible) they were resettled from the subtropics to highlands with an extremely harsh climate, where, moreover, it shakes several times a year. But if the Svans here are no longer Svans, but the Georgians (at the same time, their assimilation with the Kartvels is accelerated and Svaneti itself is weakening, in order to prevent “separatism”), then the situation with the Adjars is different. The Orthodox Georgians themselves complain about the resettlement of the latter. this is Turkish interest, and reasonably asking: “And if the Turks come here tomorrow, who will protect us?” Adjarian Muslims, as always, will be for their co-religionists. ”

            Migrants to Javakhk receive many times more land plots than the native Armenians. They promise in the region - and have already begun construction and repair of schools and cultural objects. It would seem - live, Armenian, and rejoice. But ... High unemployment, lack of social security, national oppression, open patronage of Georgians force Armenians to leave the region. So it turns out that all this is being built and done not for the Armenians living here, but for those Georgians who are moving here. In fairness, it must be said that the local Georgian population is already growing up: in Bogdanovka (now Ninotsminda), an orphanage was opened for Georgian orphans. This complex is not surrounded by a fence, but by a fortress wall. You involuntarily wonder what they are afraid of more: attacks from the outside or breakthrough from the inside? Carefully hiding the tragedy of the David Gareji monastery complex, the Georgian church zealously took up the Javakhk monastery: several Orthodox monasteries have already been founded here that are engaged in soul-stealing by hook or by crook - they introduce local Fridays to the heights of Georgian civilization.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 June 2012 15: 12
              0
              Russian political scientist: "Armenia is an illegal entity that should not exist"

              Day.Az interview with the chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, political scientist Heydar Jemal.



              - How would you comment on the recent aggravation of the situation on the Azerbaijani-Armenian border? Is collision escalating into a large-scale confrontation possible?
              - I believe that now such a threat is high, because behind the growing confrontation around Karabakh between the two sides there are also third forces that are interested in what is happening. First of all, there is the factor of Iran, against the background of which there is a tough distribution of interests among all world players. We must not forget that Armenia is an ally and strategic partner of Tehran. Therefore, the increase in power tension around Nagorno-Karabakh involves not only the issue of the liberation of Azerbaijani lands occupied by the Armenians, but also force pressure on Tehran’s allies. Accordingly, there is a diversification of positions.
              - Lately there have been loud accusations from Yerevan against Baku of allegedly "militant policy", "threat to security" and so on. How logical are such statements from the lips of the minister of the aggressor and occupant country?
              - I would say this is a typical Armenian statement. In general, from my point of view, Armenia is an illegal entity that should not exist, but exists only due to a profound unprofessional mistake made by the Musavat leadership in the early twentieth century. They then allowed this formation to arise on the basis of one of the Azerbaijani khanates - Irevan. Because the Sevres Treaty and the Sevres Tribunal planned to create Armenia in a completely different territory, which is not related to the historical lands of Azerbaijan. That is, in fact, we are dealing with the still unresolved consequences of the First World War. But I think that in the coming years this kind of problem will be resolved.
              - An anniversary BSEC summit was held in Istanbul. Armenia participated in the event at the level of only the deputy foreign minister. Despite the fact that from other countries the heads of state and government participated. How to explain this neglect?
              - Everything is on the surface. Armenia wants to show everyone that it does not need the BSEC at all. First of all, because Georgia and Ukraine rule the ball there. And due to the fact that there is mutual understanding between Tbilisi and Baku, to a certain extent this organization also contributes to the isolation of Armenia.
              And Iran is not a member of the BSEC, although it has common borders with Azerbaijan, Armenia and Turkey. It is the absence of Iran in this union that sufficiently affects the position of Armenia, because Iran has its own particular point of view, the position on the Black Sea cooperation, and in this regard, not being a member, also puts pressure on the Armenian leadership, which reduces the format its presence in the BSEC.
              - In 2013, presidential elections will be held in Armenia. Who do you think will be supported by the Armenian diaspora - Sargsyan, or Kocharyan, who wants to regain his chair?
              “I think neither one nor the other.” Because, most likely, the diaspora will support the representative of the opposition, and maybe even some new figures that may appear. Because there is no longer any sense in the swings between Sargsyan and Kocharyan from the point of view of the diaspora. They probably would like to see some fresh blood in the leadership of Armenia, because without this, the Armenian state education will go directly to complete collapse.

              - Relations between Baku and Tehran remain very difficult. How do you think they will develop in the future?
              - I think that just from the very beginning of the restoration of independence of Azerbaijan, thanks to the coming to power of the Popular Front, the unsuccessful building of relations with the IRI started. That demagogic, populist style laid the very bad foundation of the relationship, which, in fact, could be overcome. The situation could be replayed, but no decisive steps were taken, and the situation was rooted, which is now.
              I think that not everything is lost, and everything can be changed if there is political will. But during this time, relations between Iran and Armenia have gained a mass of superior moments. That is, there are also serious underwater mines. But all this is surmountable.
              http://defence.az/news/a-1700.html
              1. DavidTheLincher
                DavidTheLincher 27 June 2012 15: 18
                -3
                Here are his words
                At the top of power, Russian corrupt officials need a new civil war to hide billions stolen from the Olympic construction site. And this war will begin soon. Such a forecast was given by the chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, Heydar Jamal. The attack in Domodedovo, the shelling of tourists in Kabardino-Balkaria and other similar cases - all this is “a statement from above,” Jamal says.

                “Already a pretext is being prepared for curtailing the Sochi Olympics project. Since the money allocated for construction is already stolen, ”he said.

                According to the chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, for those who have plundered the Olympic billions, we need such an environment that the world community sees that the Olympics in Sochi should not be held. At the same time, the Russian public would have no time for money. Therefore, now we are "on the verge of a third civil war."

                As Jemal suggests, this war will most likely begin in Ingushetia - the republic is located in the very center of the North Caucasus, there is a great concentration of people and problems.

                “If someone needs to blow up the situation, then Ingushetia is an ideal place,” he said. - At the same time, the processes that are going on in Dagestan indicate that everything is being pushed to the line of the explosion. Simultaneously with the collision with the Caucasian republics, an attack on the Caucasian business outside the Caucasus is underway. The Caucasian business is being crowded out. I believe that in the current conditions we can hardly change the course of events. You cannot stop the avalanche with a ski pole. But one must meet the inevitable with open eyes and understand who is to blame. Therefore, publicity is now the most necessary thing for us. ”

                Apparently - the best friend of nomad ram growers?
              2. Ataturk
                Ataturk 27 June 2012 15: 49
                -1
                BROTHER, did you see how this ...... insults the first lady of Azerbaijan?



                This is his high culture. Do not answer. His post will be deleted! He is a provocateur. Do not reply to his messages. He has no brains. He only knows. Copy and Paste!

                Just forget about it !!! He is a jerk that is not even worth paying attention to. Think for yourself, send and insult the Russians, and how does the sole appear on the site again? Raw! What to say. Forget.
                1. DavidTheLincher
                  DavidTheLincher 27 June 2012 15: 59
                  0
                  Lobster.
                  I’ll tell you a secret, before Aliyev became Agalarova, we met with her more than once.
                  So her mother, only for you the first lady of Azerbaijan’s)))
                  But I’ll tell you, as a man, her boobs are really cool))))))))))))))
                  You know how many refugees could get new apartments, given the cost of sq. M. in Azerbaijan, if Ilham spent this money on his people.
                  Each breast of your first lady cost $ 100
                2. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 June 2012 16: 09
                  0
                  I'm not going to answer!
                  If a person has lost his honor and self-esteem, nothing will help him!
                  1. David Lynch
                    David Lynch 27 June 2012 17: 19
                    -1

                    The main thing, guys - do not get old with your heart))

                    WIKILEAKS: THE NEXT DEPUTY ABOUT THE CLAN OF THE WIFE OF ILHAM ALIYEV

                    1. SUMMARY: This dispatch is the first of a series that will cover the most powerful families in Azerbaijan, both in terms of economic and political power. Here we give a profile of First Lady Mehriban Aliyeva (nee Pashayeva), and her uncle, the former ambassador of Azerbaijan to the United States and currently Deputy Foreign Minister of Azerbaijan Hafiz Pashayev. Mehriban Aliyeva, in addition to being the president’s wife, is also a member of parliament. Other members of the Pashayev family have strong positions in government and academia, and are also associated with a powerful business group outside the energy sector. The Pashayevs, as you know, control a large part of the rapidly expanding construction in Baku, the real estate market, and they are actively investing in the financial and telecommunications industries. End Summary.

                    2. Observers in Baku often note that today Azerbaijan is governed in a manner similar to the feudalism of the Middle Ages in Europe: a handful of well-connected families control certain geographic areas of the country, as well as some sectors of the economy. By and large, this seems to be a case of general agreement among leading families about the division of production, and not hindering each other in the field of business or geographical management. Families were also conspired to use state mechanisms to protect against foreign competitors. And institutions such as the State Border Service, the State Customs Service and the Ministry of Taxes create barriers that help them solve this problem. As a result, the economy, with its growing oil and gas revenues, creates tremendous opportunities and wealth for a small handful of people who form the elite of Azerbaijan. This series of reports will describe their business, the regions they control, and the ministries they have on hand.

                    Mehriban Foundation named after Heydar Aliyev

                    3. First Lady Mehriban Aliyeva (nee Mehriban Pashayeva) is undoubtedly the most famous member of this clan and plays an important role in many matters. In addition to being the president’s wife, she is also the president of the Heydar Aliyev Foundation, which is a humanitarian organization and builds schools, hospitals and youth centers. These projects provide a constant image of goodwill and advertising for the first lady when she takes part in cutting the red ribbon at the opening of new schools and cultural centers.

                    5. In addition, the work of this organization is opaque. It is unclear where the money came from for the activities of the Heydar Aliyev Foundation, although many assume that the fund’s treasury is filled with oil revenues. There are several anecdotal reports by employees when ministries were forced to contribute to the fund. The fund is located in one of the largest historical buildings in the center of Baku, which is even higher than the headquarters of SOCAR (State Oil Company). One opposition politician recently said that “receipts from donations to the Fund are a kind of“ free float card ”for local officials. And this means: if these officials can show that they donate regularly, then this will allow high-level officials to promote their business and other local plans without interference. ”

                    5. Alieva is also a Member of Parliament and Goodwill Ambassador for UNESCO and ISESCO (Cultural Framework of the Organization of the Islamic Conference). A recent poll of journalists accredited in parliament revealed that she is the "Most Active MP in 2009 for Legislative Initiatives." Embassy observers, who attended nearly every session in the past year, overlooked her presence in parliament, a structure known for its dependence on the presidential apparatus. When she hosted members of Congress in 2008, her poor awareness of political issues and her ability to answer only questions related to the Heydar Aliyev Foundation manifested itself.

                    6. Other notable Pashayevs are the sister of the first lady Nargiz Pashayeva, who heads the branch of Moscow State University in Azerbaijan, the father of the first lady Arif Pashayev, the rector of the National Aviation Academy, and the uncle of the first lady Hafiz Pashayev (brother of Arif Pashayev), who is deputy foreign minister affairs and director of the Azerbaijan Diplomatic Academy. Hafiz Pashayev was also the first ambassador of Azerbaijan to the United States, having worked in Washington for more than 13 years. The Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs these days spends a lot of time focusing on his Diplomatic Academy, which is developing and constructing a new building (modeled on the NFATC in Arlington) in central Baku. In general, this family, which usually speaks Russian better than Azerbaijani, is considered one of the strongest in Azerbaijan.

                    7. The center of power of the Pashayev family is considered to be Baku, where the parents of Mehriban Aliyeva were born, and the Absheron peninsula, which "represents" Aliyev in parliament - the area around the Heydar Aliyev International Airport. Aliyeva also organized the construction of a shopping design center in Shuvelany in her constituency, which stands out among the dilapidated houses in the area.

                    The family is believed to exercise control over the Ministry of Culture and Tourism, the Ministry of Youth and Sports, the Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Education, simply because these ministries fall into areas traditionally of interest to the first lady. In this regard, the Pashayevs played an active role in facilitating the construction of museums and other cultural sites in Baku. At that time, they came up with the idea to open a branch of the Guggenheim Museum along the embankment in Baku. Mehriban Aliyeva's collection of contemporary art also serves as the basis for the new Museum of Modern Art in Baku, which quietly opened last fall. The museum was designed by artist-designer Altai Sadikhzade, husband Nargiz Pashayeva. The style of Azerbaijani artists of the Soviet era is visible in the museum, including Altai Sadikhzade (whose portraits of Mehriban, Nargiz and Arif Pashayev are in the center of the gallery).

                    8. The Pashaev family is managed by Pasha Holding, a conglomerate that includes Pasha Bank, Pasha Insurance, Pasha construction and Pasha Travel. The family owns the local television company Lider TV, as well as the production of cosmetics Nargiz.

                    The family is believed to control several dozen banks in Azerbaijan, including Bank Standard and Kapital Bank, and in addition - the latest Pasha Bank.

                    In November 2009, Pasha Holding opened the first and so far the only Bentley dealership in Baku.

                    9. Nar Mobile (which is officially registered as Azerfon) is also associated with this family, and there is speculation that the company is called Nar not by the name of the pomegranate in Azerbaijani, but by the name of the sister of the first lady Nargiz.

                    10. Construction projects in Baku tend to face a number of delays caused by government agencies such as tax officials, firefighters and safety engineers who are trying to take their own piece of the corruption pie. This is especially true in the case of smaller-scale projects that do not have a "roof" (Russian criminal jargon meaning the protection of an official), for example, in the person of a minister from the government. Not surprisingly, Pasha Construction projects tend to receive approval for construction work in Azerbaijan more often and faster than others.

                    For example: a shopping center in Shuvelan, Port Baku Towers and Residences, The Four Seasons Hotel, Absheron JW Marriott Hotel and Residences and Amburan Marriott Beach Resort.

                    11. Pashayev women are known to dress in fashion and much bolder than the average woman in most Muslim Azerbaijan. First Lady Mehriban Aliyeva appears to have undergone significant plastic surgery, presumably abroad, and she wears dresses that can be considered provocative even in the Western world. On television and in photographs by her face it is not possible to understand the full range of his expressions.

                    The First Lady and her two daughters invited Second Lady Lynn Cheney to dinner in September 2008. Before the arrival of the second lady, while the three ladies were waiting for Mrs. Cheney's car, one of the Secret Service agents asked, "Which one is the mother?" The guards and White House staff looked at the three ladies with a searching look for a few moments. Then the service worker said, "Well, logically mothers are probably in the center."

                    12. By any standards, the Pashayevs are a family to be reckoned with in Azerbaijan. First Lady Mehriban Aliyeva visited the United States several times — with her husband or separately — and was an honored guest at events hosted by the US-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce and other organizations.

                    Hafiz Pashayev, well-known in Washington, was an important interlocutor for the US Embassy in Baku and during the official visits of Americans to Azerbaijan. He was not always able to achieve results on the topics that we are promoting - for example, on difficult issues, like the conclusion of bloggers - but he was ready to hear us and connect on these topics with the appropriate authorities. The end of the comment.
              3. Reks
                Reks 28 June 2012 02: 57
                -1
                Quote: Yarbay
                Day.Az interview with the chairman of the Islamic Committee of Russia, political scientist Heydar Jemal.
                Authority !!!!! And what Zhirinovsky said for Azerbaijan you will not bring here ???? laughing
        3. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 15: 22
          +2
          Quote: Aleksey67
          Omar, we must respect the presidents and government of other countries until they compromise themselves

          Respect those who work for the interests of their people! And ours for what and for whom they work, I personally do not understand .......
      2. Reks
        Reks 28 June 2012 02: 37
        -2
        Quote: Ataturk
        the guys from Russia should already understand who the Kremlin is working for and nothing good for the Russian people, this president and his gang does not promise!

        am We'll figure it out ourselves. Do you have a few problems? laughing Not so long ago, there was a replica on your part ... I asked, why do you need Pakestan friends, etc.? - the answer is, we have annexed 20 percent of the territory and are looking for a union ... so I understand for help? laughing Your top in hell quantum ??? Go anti-Russian way?
      3. zaxooz
        zaxooz 28 June 2012 16: 58
        0
        Well, they will mix and what? 25 planes will be shot down there, and then what? the Arabs themselves are not able to build airplanes and missiles for the s-300, and the Americans even rivet several thousand of them.
    9. vezunchik
      vezunchik 27 June 2012 11: 20
      +1
      Is this a surprise? betrayed time - who will believe you - the ancients said.
    10. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 11: 48
      -1
      “Arutz Sheva”, Israel
      Russia sent super-advanced S-300 missiles to Syria

      On Thursday, it was reported that Russia delivered advanced S-300 missiles to Syria, and also sent experts to help the Syrians use this system.
      Russian ships that recently reached the territorial waters of Syria, among other things, brought technical advisers to help the Syrians deploy the batteries of S-300 missiles received by Damascus in the past weeks, the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Quds Al Arabi said in a statement. Quoting sources in Syria and Russia, the newspaper writes that Moscow considers the Western attack on Syria to be a red line, which Moscow will not tolerate.

      Despite growing opposition in the West and even in the Arab world to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad because of his attacks on protesters who want to overthrow him from his post, Russia continues to support Assad, the report said. The Russian and Syrian military are working together to preserve Assad’s rule and repel a possible attack from NATO or the United States and the European Union.

      In addition to missiles, the report said, Russia has installed advanced radar installations at all key military and industrial facilities. Radar systems also cover areas north and south of Syria, where they can detect the movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian borders. Radars target most of Israel, as well as the Turkish Incirlik military base, which is used by NATO forces.

      The S-300 system is considered one of the most powerful missile defense systems. The radar of this system can simultaneously track up to a hundred and attack up to 12 targets. The deployment of the S-300 system takes five minutes, and the service life is very long, and it does not require maintenance.

      Russia tried to sell this system to Iran, however, under pressure from the United States and Israel, the sale was canceled and Russia returned the security deposit paid to Iran. According to the report, Iran paid for the S-300 delivered to Syria. Whether individual missiles were delivered to Iran is unknown.

      Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150059#.T-q6nnXYLWS
      1. Brownie
        Brownie 27 June 2012 11: 52
        0
        Quote: Sith Lord
        “Arutz Sheva”, Israel
        Russia sent super-advanced S-300 missiles to Syria

        You look at the date:

        First Publish: 11/24/2011, 1:15 PM
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 12: 06
          +1
          Brownie, judging by the date, these complexes are already on alert.
    11. PatriotizTAT
      PatriotizTAT 27 June 2012 11: 55
      0
      So you all get orange here ... recourse, and before that you called me exclusively !!! Putin forward ... Israel really steers !!! good
    12. Truth
      Truth 27 June 2012 12: 17
      +2
      Not deliveries of air defense systems of the Russian Federation:
      - S-300 Yugoslavia.
      - S-300 Iran.
      - S-300 Syria.
      Does anyone else have any questions?
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 12: 20
        -3
        and Iran and Syria they have long been delivered
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 15: 32
          -2
          Quote: Sith Lord
          and Iran and Syria they have long been delivered

          Where such confidence? Although, wait and see!
    13. DERWISH
      DERWISH 27 June 2012 12: 43
      +2
      REALLY I'm furious !! ours were to fulfill their obligations under the C300 in any situation angryAnd I very much hope that through 3 countries Syria will receive these complexes !!!!
      1. Katran
        Katran 27 June 2012 13: 34
        +2
        Iran is an ally to us, insofar as its NATO + League of Arab countries presses it, it’s allies, but as soon as the pressure decreases, they will again start to stir up water in the former Soviet republics that Russia is completely inadequate, but what about Syria and the S-300, I think here Jews were strongly opposed, if Syria had an S-300, then it would be hard for Jews to have, in the event that the Assad regime falls and power comes, for example, the Muslim Brothers are very hard. Well, Jews are quite loyal to Russia, that is, very big nasty things they did as Sak did not ask about it; they didn’t sell the latest weapons to him, there were also many joint projects on the military-industrial complex. And even the delivery of the S-300 will not help Assad, for effective S-300 work you need specialists, and for the preparation of specialists, time. And there’s a bit of history how much technology you don’t deliver to the Arabs, they will either kill it during exploitation or abandon it and then make peace with the enemy, and the Russians will always look like fools, do not believe the sparsity of the Soviet advisers who fought on the side of the same Syrians in the wars against Israel.
        1. Guun
          Guun 27 June 2012 15: 24
          0
          You should not think so. The Iraqi Guard under Sadam was able to masterfully use the T-72 tanks!
    14. Cynic
      Cynic 27 June 2012 18: 22
      0
      Quote: Legion47
      These are not the actions

      Bye this
      suspended at the direction of the leadership of Russia, sources in the military-industrial complex said.

      Now, if there will be an official statement ...
  2. Aventurinka
    Aventurinka 27 June 2012 08: 30
    +11
    Due to the fact that over the past 2 weeks there has been an insane amount of misinformation on Syria, the phrase "was reported by sources in the military-industrial complex." raises doubts.
    We will wait for the official comment.
  3. oper66
    oper66 27 June 2012 08: 35
    +9
    The source also did not rule out that the Syrians simply do not have the means to pay for air defense systems due to sanctions from Western countries, he says.
    Can we really do this at the present time - the complexes can be delivered in installments, or they can take the Abromovichs for a joke - if you look at Assad's birthday, they will give the S-300 free of charge
  4. Sakhalininsk
    Sakhalininsk 27 June 2012 08: 35
    +4
    If this is true, then our rulers once again sold the interests of their own people and the state for a handful of lousy bucks, but the hope remains that this is just another disinformation.
    1. Guran96
      Guran96 27 June 2012 09: 59
      +1
      This is just a free discussion of the manager on what, why. A shudder of air immediately begins. I would like to hope the leadership all the same knows better how to act in this situation and it will not forever step on the same rake.
  5. Pravdoruba
    Pravdoruba 27 June 2012 08: 35
    0
    Shell-C1 - krasava good
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 June 2012 08: 58
      +6
      Only this beauty should be supported at long distances, otherwise even the 1 shot will not have time to make it and will be smashed into the trash, which is why 300 is needed ..
  6. dark_sp
    dark_sp 27 June 2012 08: 36
    +3
    Damn it at the wrong time! Or one more version of stopping orders can be considered - this is already a large number of S-300s in the Syrian army. In any case, with such an impressive missile defense as listed here, already send NATO aircraft to Syria, compare suicide.
    1. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 27 June 2012 09: 23
      +4
      If there really is a war, then from Syria’s air defense there will be only one memory within a day.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 27 June 2012 09: 45
        +4
        Tirpitz. I wrote your phrase in a notebook. A moot point, but let's see.
        1. Tirpitz
          Tirpitz 27 June 2012 09: 54
          +8
          Well, yes, it will be possible to remove the asterisk on shoulder straps from the one who is wrong. wassat
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 39
            +2
            Yes, at least that's all.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 10: 39
          +5
          In a notebook means, but I think who we have from the FSB on the site hehe. You slept Sanya.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 50
            +3
            You’ve Sanya for a long time in my notebook.
      2. Trailer
        Trailer 27 June 2012 10: 28
        +1
        But but but! They must bring down a dozen more aircraft!
        1. Armata
          Armata 27 June 2012 10: 53
          +2
          Quote: Tirpitz
          Well, yes, it will be possible to remove the asterisk on shoulder straps from the one who is wrong
          Yes, even to the rank and file demoted though Syria must resist.
      3. dark_sp
        dark_sp 27 June 2012 11: 24
        0
        I really doubt!! And honestly speaking, I'm not the only one !! By the way, are you afraid of this army !!!!!!!!!))))))))))))))) The US Defense Department will arrange a gay holiday for the first time


        15.06.2012 06:02

        Already in June 2012, the Pentagon intends to organize the first holiday in US military history for homosexuals and lesbians. This became known from the interview of the representative of the American military department Eileen Lines to the newspaper "Hill".

        The holiday is scheduled as part of the "LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bi- and Transgender) Month" and is timed to coincide with the 1st anniversary of the lifting of restrictions on service in the American army for representatives of non-traditional sexual orientation, RIA Novosti reports.

        At the end of December 2010, US President Barack Obama signed the historic law repealing the law introduced during the time of President Bill Clinton and dubbed don't ask don't tell ("Don't ask, don't tell"). The essence of the repealed law was that homosexuals and lesbians were allowed to serve in the US military, but at the same time it was forbidden to disclose their sexual orientation, and the military command was prohibited from asking questions about it.

        For many years, American gay men sought the right to freely declare their orientation, including in the service in the armed forces. Since September 20, 2011, non-traditional sexual orientation can no longer serve as a basis for refusing the right to serve in the army.

        In June, gay pride parades are held in many US cities, many restaurants and clubs are decorated with rainbow flags, and politicians vying with each other to support gay rights. Recently, US President Barack Obama made a splash by declaring that he supports same-sex marriage. In addition, in a special declaration for the beginning of the "LGBT month", he recalled the benefits of repealing the don't ask don't tell law.

        “With the repeal of the don't ask don't tell law, American gays, lesbians and bisexuals can serve their country openly, honestly, and without fear of losing their jobs to someone they love,” he said.
  7. kuzmich
    kuzmich 27 June 2012 08: 41
    +7
    straight no one did not expect such a turn of events belay it remains to believe that this is a special disinformation and in fact we are supplying them with S-400 in full swing. But if without sarcasm, then sadness and resentment takes me for our Motherland crying
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 27 June 2012 08: 54
      0
      Quote: kuzmich
      But if without sarcasm, then sadness and resentment takes me for our Motherland

      Yeah! They made us a sucker of international scale! Something of cheers-patriots in the person of the generals is not visible! I would like to read their thoughts on this matter!
      1. Prophet Alyosha
        Prophet Alyosha 27 June 2012 12: 08
        -3
        Quiet!!! Do not interfere! Together with Putin In Israel (in their historical homeland) they pray at the Western Wall to the Jewish anti-messiah, the anti-Christ. Together with the "chief rabbis of Russia" Berl Lazar and ADOLF Shaevich. Why would they want Syria?
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 12: 22
          +4
          I can upload photos of Sarkozy and Gaddafi, so what? Sarkozy then took and bombed Gaddafi with his allies ...





          Is it possible to expect that Putin in the photo with the rabbis and then will bomb Israel?)) Enough of the garbage from the media to copy-paste and draw conclusions ...
        2. Ruslan
          Ruslan 27 June 2012 15: 15
          +1
          Quote: Prophet Alyosha
          iho !!! Do not interfere! Together with Putin In Israel (in their historical homeland) they pray at the Western Wall to the Jewish anti-messiah, the anti-Christ. Together with the "chief rabbis of Russia" Berl Lazar and ADOLF Shaevich. Why would they want Syria?

          QUESTION: You visited the main shrines here and in Jerusalem. You even offered a prayer at the Western Wall. I dare to ask what you prayed to God for?

          VLADIMIR PUTIN: The Wailing Wall is one of the shrines of the Jewish people, it is one of the pillars of the world religion, which is Judaism. Judaism, as you know, is one of the four traditional religions in our country, and this status of Judaism is established by the law of the Russian Federation. Therefore, I think it is quite normal to visit this shrine, in this case the shrine of the Jewish people.

          Among other things, there are other considerations. You know, all the disputes, in fact, in the Middle East ultimately come down to this place, because it is the stumbling block and the most acute problematic place in this whole discussion: to whom this place belongs. First, a synagogue was erected there, then other religious buildings, then the third - and so on. Honestly, I've been here before, looked, and the Wailing Wall was also. (when he took the oath to the Rhodschilds, the truth then went over to the Rockefellers and with the new realities of the agreement between the first and second Putin came as a prodigal son) But I did not have the opportunity to get to know her in such detail. It was very interesting and useful for me to look at this problem from the inside, to listen to the story of specialists.

          And, besides everything else, I don’t know which of you was there, saw or not, but it was so completely spontaneous that I managed to talk with people who just came to pray. I must say that this is an interesting conversation, and people are very open, kind, willing to cooperate with all sisters and brothers from other faiths. It was very nice to hear and see.
          Did the Israeli president come to Russia at least once and did he pray in the Orthodox church?
          Source
          http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/124507-vladimir-putin-otvetil-na-voprosy-ro

          ssiyskih-zhurnalistov.html
  8. mcvdvlad
    mcvdvlad 27 June 2012 08: 45
    0
    most likely they cannot pay
  9. Ustas
    Ustas 27 June 2012 08: 48
    +1
    Well, they began to slowly merge Syria.
    1. Trailer
      Trailer 27 June 2012 10: 29
      +1
      Quietly, this is when our peacekeepers and warships are there! But much - this is when we ourselves do not climb, and even do not help our ally with weapons!
      1. Aleksey67
        Aleksey67 27 June 2012 10: 35
        +1
        Quote: Karavan
        this is when our peacekeepers and warships are there!

        Separate flies from cutlets. No one has seen Kazakh peacekeepers and warships in Syria and I think they will not.
  10. Krilion
    Krilion 27 June 2012 08: 50
    +1
    pah ... to read disgusting ... who still has illusions about the Russian leadership?
    1. Yoshkin Kot
      Yoshkin Kot 27 June 2012 09: 13
      +4
      buy a ticket to Damascus, after that you have the right to speak, or do you want your Wishlist to pay with blood and poverty others?
      besides, the source is muddy
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 27 June 2012 09: 13
      -2
      Quote: Krilion
      pah ... to read disgusting ... who still has illusions about the Russian leadership?

      I agree! I personally have never had such illusions! And this information is another confirmation of this !!! am There were hopes that not everything is so bad! But they are gradually dying ..........
      1. Prophet Alyosha
        Prophet Alyosha 27 June 2012 12: 19
        +6
        Russia does not have a nationally-oriented leadership - IT IS NOW A FACT !!!
        1. Katran
          Katran 27 June 2012 13: 55
          0
          Well, well, well, such placards of the Germans have already "treated" before the Second World War than such propaganda drifted for the Germans, everyone knows.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 09: 54
      +7
      There was only one hope, naive hope ,,,. Wang said the end of the world when Syria is down. This is just in time for the new year. Bankers horseradish, I will give you a loan
      1. Armata
        Armata 27 June 2012 10: 14
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Bankers horseradish, I will give you a loan

        Who about what, and Sanya about babos. laughing Bankers will probably forgive you if you give them part of your business in the oval office.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 10: 33
          +4
          Eugene bankers in my toilet, glasses will scrub, And I walk side by side with a whip. Oh how I'm waiting for this day
          1. Armata
            Armata 27 June 2012 10: 39
            +3
            Well, you give them at least a salary for food. And then, in fact, they will completely lose their working capacity laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 10
              +3
              They will receive a salary in the form of a loan, at the same interest, as they are to me
  11. wave
    wave 27 June 2012 08: 58
    +2
    Yes, everything is in order ... We already managed to sufficiently stuff Syria with the most effective air defense systems, including S-300 systems. So the menacing tip of Syria’s air defense missiles looks confidently at the sky, waiting for their birds am
  12. Goga
    Goga 27 June 2012 08: 58
    +5
    Colleagues are not the best news, but at the same time, Reuters published an article that contains interesting quotes - “If there is a break in future deliveries to Syria, it is likely that "Rosoboronexport will not have any difficulties in providing weapons ordered by the Syrians ... to a third country." And more - "... jet fighters to Syria this year, totaling approximately five hundred million dollars. Russia is expected to begin deliveries of 12 first-class MiG 29 jet fighters this year."
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 June 2012 09: 03
      +4
      Greetings Igor. No matter how late deliveries begin. It may happen that there will be no one to deliver. So far, the Turks alone are afraid of attacking Syria, but the AUG is approaching, and this is serious support for the arrogance of the Turks.
      1. Goga
        Goga 27 June 2012 09: 09
        +3
        Steam engine - Greetings, Eugene. Syria has an S-300, although it is certainly not clear how much. I think the question is no longer in the number of installations, but in the quality of training of their specialists.
        1. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 09: 19
          +1
          Quote: Gogh
          Syria has an S-300, although it is certainly not clear how much. I think the question is no longer in the number of installations, but in the quality of training of their specialists.

          Igor, 5 c + !!! Brevity is the soul of wit. A statement that is called "bull's-eye" !!! drinks
          1. Armata
            Armata 27 June 2012 09: 35
            +4
            Tonight I talked with Sergei "Veteran AirFors" just on this topic. He said that 30 years ago specialists were taught in Syria and taught well, and it is for these purposes that Russia maintains a staff of military advisers there. Another thing is that Sergei said about pilots and air defense, but what about the land border is unknown. They can attack from there.
        2. ATATA
          ATATA 27 June 2012 09: 43
          0
          Quote: Gogh
          Syria has an S-300

          Give a link or something. Where does infa come from?
          1. Aleksey67
            Aleksey67 27 June 2012 10: 02
            +1
            Quote: ATATA
            Give a link or something. Where does infa come from?

            Media: Russian military advisers and C-300 systems are sent to Syria

            Damascus, November 24th. Russian warships that previously reached Syrian territorial waters, had on board, among other things, military advisers. They were supposed to help the Syrians in the deployment and maintenance of S-300 missile systems, which were also transferred to the regime of Bashar al-Assad... About this, as reported by Zman, said in a report in the London newspaper "Al-Quds al-Arabi".


            In addition to the missile defense systems, as indicated in the report, the Russians installed radar systems covering the border areas next to the key military bases of Syria. It is reported that their area of ​​operations includes the NATO base in Incirlik (Turkey) and the American radar system in the Negev (Israel).
            Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2011/11/24/916687.html

        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 10: 02
          +4
          Well, they have specialists, the Turks have not been convinced of this for a long time. So Igor will only have to count the number of downed planes, I hope the number will eventually turn into quality. f22 should not fly.
      2. Yarbay
        Yarbay 27 June 2012 10: 26
        -2
        At the same time, troops are already pulling towards the borders!
        http://defence.az/news/a-1693.html
        1. Armata
          Armata 27 June 2012 10: 54
          +4
          So far this is only psychological pressure.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay 27 June 2012 16: 12
            0
            I agree Eugene!
  13. AIvanA
    AIvanA 27 June 2012 09: 01
    -2
    Everything is as always, the most incorrect scenarios come true, but probably they decided with Obama and decided to merge Syria, and after all the S-300 could be an argument that would stop the fighting, but against the background of everything that happens this is a matter of time, but only it was necessary to fulfill the terms of the contract.
  14. matex
    matex 27 June 2012 09: 03
    -1
    Strange ... really decided to drain Assad? I hope that I am wrong.
    1. AIvanA
      AIvanA 27 June 2012 09: 07
      -1
      Russia is not the first time to merge allies; Serbia alone is worth something. Once more, once less.
  15. Dimani
    Dimani 27 June 2012 09: 04
    +3
    In my opinion this is a stuffing ....
  16. collapse
    collapse 27 June 2012 09: 05
    0
    We give up positions, just or rather WHO will be the next one is this a question? what
    1. Guun
      Guun 27 June 2012 09: 22
      0
      The countries of Central Asia - for example, Kazakhstan. Judging by the recent travels with the border, the government is currently mistrusted - financing + Western experts + our most popular people = opposition, crap and even a civil war. It could be so.
  17. sazhka0
    sazhka0 27 June 2012 09: 08
    -3
    I had no doubt for a minute. Bends like a patch .. Urya !!! Glory to Pu!?
    Give up hope. Everyone who comes in here ... Ugh on Pu.
  18. DeamonFIre
    DeamonFIre 27 June 2012 09: 10
    +3
    So Russia caved in = (We had to either immediately stop or continue no matter what .. and so ... what is the word of Russia if it constantly changes it? (((
  19. korvin1976
    korvin1976 27 June 2012 09: 13
    +12
    I'm already tired of writing about this, this is the third post.
    Russia SUSPENDED deliveries to Syria, DO NOT CANCELED or Canceled (as with Iran)
    The suspension can be connected with anything, but the OBVIOUS fact in my opinion is the fact with the cancellation of insurance for the ship that was carrying the repaired helicopters to Syria.
    The point is now to send a ship with the "S-300" if it does not reach Syria.
    If someone has a teleport to transfer the complex, YOU inform the government, I think they will not refuse YOUR services.
    Well, in addition, no one has yet canceled the UN sanctions, but the sanctions say about stopping the supply of NEW weapons to Syria.
    I understand that this does not stop the west and they are importing weapons into Syria. But they import it illegally, and quietly. Unfortunately, we do not have such an opportunity, the reason for this is the geographical location of Syria.
    Again, I would like to hope that ours are also importing some kind of weapon into Syria, so to speak, illegitimate, but the S-300 complex cannot be imported like that. Yes, even if there was such an opportunity, the presence of a complex in Syria would then be proof that Russia still sold NEW weapons to Syria.
    I perfectly understand the indignation of many on this fact, but WE have not yet lost our face, and are acting in accordance with international relations. If WE begin to act now as the West, to lay down on everyone and everything, what will we be different from them then?
    In my opinion, in the Syrian crisis (there was a Caribbean crisis, now almost the same is happening), Russia still occupies a more advantageous position in comparison with the West. So let's not give up their positions in this "war".
    A "step back" is not always a retreat, often it is the beginning of a run to jump in front. "
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 27 June 2012 10: 35
      +6
      korvin1976
      + 100. I completely agree. A little early for conclusions. We DO NOT KNOW what Putin was talking with American Maxim (Obama), it is quite possible that the start of the operation against Syria is scheduled for such a period that we either do not have time to deliver, or already set, deploy. Who knows, maybe the Yankees are so cowardly about С300 that continuing supplies will mean war - in order to attack now, and not later, and we thus win the world. No one knows what Putin promised in return for this - maintaining normal oil prices or some other nishtyaks. And the fact that our diplomacy and the military-industrial complex continue to defend Syria is already an indicator that our country, despite the defeat in the Cold War and the loss of sovereignty (yes, exactly), continues to pursue its own policy, even if not 100%, as we would all like. In such a tense situation, any careless action, but what is the action - the word. can provoke a conflict, and for us a delay in the conflict is certainly more desirable, because in this way the United States pays less attention to us.
  20. Guun
    Guun 27 June 2012 09: 13
    0
    Strange is very strange. While there is no official, it’s better not to draw conclusions. But when they confirm then it will be sad. In the state channel NTV nothing.

    Here is another info for you - http://warfiles.ru/show-9179-siriya-v-blizhayshee-vremya-poluchit-ot-rossii-esch

    e-bolshe-oruzhiya.html

    And what to think now? Over time, we'll see.
  21. Kaa
    Kaa 27 June 2012 09: 16
    -1
    Our coup is one in mind (Susan Rice), but the NATO countries have somehow sluggishly reacted to the incident, the fact of violation of Syria's airspace is too obvious, and it’s not enthusiastic to fight with Euro-financial problems. They want the Arab monarchies and Turkey to get involved in the war - and so they are dumb. Well, as for the S-300, there is a suspicion that they have been there from other countries for a long time, while the F-4s successfully go astray, and the S-300 needs worthy goals. Let's wait, sir.
  22. Tirpitz
    Tirpitz 27 June 2012 09: 21
    +1
    They made a noise, later on ... and they threw Syria. Looks tightly shuganul Obama Putin at the 20-ty summit. And Putin really knows what the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the USA are capable of, if after the Obama’s arrival in the USA, the AUG went from Norfolk to Syria, and at the same time, rumors about sending our BDKs to Tartus subsided, while the British do not really let the armament ship into Syria and the country's leadership stupidly freezes.
    1. Trailer
      Trailer 27 June 2012 10: 32
      +1
      Here is a literate comparison! We are at peace conferences so far, and the Turks and Amrikans are troops closer to the border!
      1. Tirpitz
        Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 22
        +3
        And what am I wrong?
  23. IRBIS
    IRBIS 27 June 2012 09: 21
    +1
    Well, so many emotions? I agree with those who do not undertake to meddle in politics. I agree with those who expected more from Russia. But to judge so categorically is premature. East is a delicate matter (Sukhov). I can only note that I have not personally heard an official statement on this fact. And I hope I don’t hear it.
    1. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 27 June 2012 09: 34
      0
      Do not hear, the government as a rule does not comment on this.
  24. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 27 June 2012 09: 25
    +2
    Source, does not deserve trust. It looks like an injection of misinformation or an attempt to calculate public opinion (the customer is not known). I agree with the comments, but you need to wait for the official comment (it does not matter confirmation or denial).
  25. Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 27 June 2012 09: 26
    +1
    Good day to all! Very disappointing for the country. I think that the Russian leadership will surrender Syria like Iraq. I read two links yesterday. They put an end to my attitude to ... http://news.rambler.ru/14492294/ http://news.rambler.ru/14489544/7. Although I voted for him and trusted him very much. Anyone who reads carefully will understand what I’m talking about and what Syria has to do with it.
    1. with
      with 27 June 2012 17: 07
      +1
      Quote: Oleg147741
      I read two links yesterday. They put an end to my attitude to ... http://news.rambler.ru/14492294/ http://news.rambler.ru/14489544/7.

      So you are my friend s Rambler !!! bully
      CPRambler do not respect yourself, I sympathize with you !!! bully
  26. Brownie
    Brownie 27 June 2012 09: 28
    -2
    And where did Pu go just now, to pray under the cover of night darkness, and kiss with Orthodox Jews ?! Ah-ha-aha-ha !!!! How much is Syria today, "the great helmsman" ?!

    1. Guun
      Guun 27 June 2012 09: 32
      -5
      I thought it was no secret for a long time that Putin was a Jew. Obama also laughed before them. This is some kind of conspiracy ...
      1. Srgsoap
        Srgsoap 27 June 2012 14: 45
        +2
        Here is a conspiracy ...

        http://lib.rus.ec/b/67978/read#t1http://www.netopalto.ru/masonskaya-simvolika-na
        -dollar.html


        http://www.netopalto.ru/masonskaya-simvolika-na-dollare.html

        I advise you to read, everything will be clear.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 15: 55
          -1
          Quote: SrgSoap
          I advise you to read, everything will be clear.

          I read and watched this! All power in our country belongs to them! am
          1. Srgsoap
            Srgsoap 27 June 2012 16: 31
            +1
            I agree, a small clarification throughout the world belongs.
    2. Brownie
      Brownie 27 June 2012 09: 43
      -5
      Quote: Brownie
      Ah ha ha ha ha !!!! How much is Syria today,

      Ahh !! I remembered how much! The street in Jerusalem was renamed in honor of Putin! Yeah !! Inexpensive !!!! laughing
      1. chukapabra
        chukapabra 27 June 2012 12: 13
        +1
        Quote: Brownie
        Ahh !! I remembered how much! The street in Jerusalem was renamed in honor of Putin! Yeah !! Inexpensive !!!!

        they didn’t rename anything in Jerusalem, it’s in Bethlehem (Palestinian Authority) - they are famous ....
        One of the central streets of Bethlehem will be named in honor of Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was reported today. in the press service of the Palestinian Authority, specifying that the relevant order was received from autonomy leader Mahmoud Abbas. The road leading to the Center for Russian Science and Culture will be named after the Russian president.
        Having visited Israel the day before, Putin paid a visit to the West Bank of the Jordan River today. Talks between the Russian leader and the head of the Palestinian National Authority took place in Bethlehem. The meeting discussed the progress of negotiations between Israel and Palestine, as well as the role of Russia in the "Quartet of Mediators" on the Middle East settlement. Putin arrived in Palestine with a delegation of 400 Russian politicians, businessmen and journalists. He visited the Basilica of the Nativity of Christ, which, according to legend, was erected at the birthplace of Jesus Christ, and also attended the opening of the Russian Cultural Center in the city.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 June 2012 16: 37
          -2
          Good afternoon, Alexander!
          And the point is from their licking !!! ??
          Only people are confused)))
      2. OSTAP BENDER
        OSTAP BENDER 27 June 2012 13: 29
        +2
        And why are you minus the Brownie? He just showed the true face of power! Soon these creatures will merge the RUSSIAN PEOPLE !!!!
        1. Gocha kurashvili
          Gocha kurashvili 27 June 2012 14: 35
          +1
          For the lack of constructiveness and professionalism. Such debaters, with their inept fakes, muddied the forum. Golem photoshop, the blind will see. And the forum is interesting in a dispute, documented facts and the opinion of experts. And everyone knows the true face of power without a brownie .. Believe me, OSTAP BENDER, no one has illusions ....
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 27 June 2012 15: 50
          +1
          nonsense writes. Felts specially, felts for naivety. Chukapabra answered him.
  27. volcano
    volcano 27 June 2012 09: 38
    +7
    Greetings Colleagues!
    Let's not rush to conclusions.
    First of all, this article, like someone, said something.
    Secondly, it is quite possible that the already existing air defense systems in Syria are quite enough to create a good layered air defense (we don’t have a map of the location and cover of the air defense systems).
    Thirdly, it is possible that the leadership hopes that the presence of our marines, as a demonstration of the Russian flag, will cool NATO’s hot heads.
    Fourth, do not forget that politics is politics, and at the moment we already need to show the West that we hear them. Suddenly this will be followed by rebellion in their direction. Say we stopped arming Assad. Stop and you arm the opposition. And here we are possibly counting on political points.
    Well, the fact of the delivery of fighters to Syria (if this is of course true) only confirms the idea that ground-based air defense systems in Syria are already quite enough, so we replenish its air component.
    I repeat the conclusions too early. We will look at the continuation.
    1. Gurza
      Gurza 27 June 2012 09: 45
      +2
      Absolutely agree. Without concessions, it is impossible to pursue a policy and to bend your line. To openly shout that we have backtracked on the Syrian issue, we need to know the full alignment of things.
    2. Ruslan
      Ruslan 27 June 2012 09: 54
      -4
      Quote: volkan
      Let's not rush to conclusions.
      First of all, this article, like someone, said something.
      I agree, but the question remains - why did Putin at such a tense moment not go to China, Iran, (to the allies) but go to the very core of evil?
      1. Gurza
        Gurza 27 June 2012 10: 17
        +3
        I agree, but the question remains - why did Putin at such a tense moment not go to China, Iran, (to the allies) but go to the very core of evil?

        He traveled to China, but he will help Iran and Syria stronger being in these covens of evil, negotiating, listening, promising, the only way to build a competent policy regarding a potential enemy!
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan 27 June 2012 10: 47
          -4
          Quote: GurZa
          He traveled to China, but he will help Iran and Syria stronger being in these covens of evil, negotiating, listening, promising, the only way to build a competent policy regarding a potential enemy!


          Quote: GurZa
          Due to the fact that it is possible to reach an agreement with the allies more simply, by the same phone, especially if one considers that a common strategy may have already been worked out with them. But it is much more difficult to come to an agreement with the "enemies", and you have to go to them.

          The head of state is lucky and the sequence of visits to countries after re-election - this moment is primarily perceived by all countries of the world as signs of loyalty to the countries' policies - don't forget about it and leash in second place arrangements as a consequence of the visit
          KADAFI - agreements and good relations with Israel did not help - they asked me like glass containers - negotiating with the Jews is like putting a shoe on yourself and then make a good face after a bad game
          1. Gurza
            Gurza 27 June 2012 11: 13
            +1
            Due to the fact that it is possible to reach an agreement with the allies more simply, by the same phone, especially if one considers that a common strategy may have already been worked out with them. But it is much more difficult to come to an agreement with the "enemies", and you have to go to them.

            This is not my quote. Anyway.
            The head of state is lucky and the sequence of visits to countries after re-election - this moment is primarily perceived by all countries of the world as signs of loyalty to the countries' policies - do not forget about it

            If you follow your conclusions, then it turns out that Putin came to confirm that we do not need Syria, and Iran too? as I understand it?!
            Then it turns out that when the US president arrives in Russia, he seems to be loyal to us, cuts down submarines, destroys weapons ...... And they have a lot of rallies in their camp, Obama visited Moscow, he is loyal to the Russian, traitor No. 1. .... the logic is felt!
            KADAFI - agreements and good relations with Israel did not help - they asked like glass containers - negotiating with the Jews is like putting your boot on it and then making a good face after a bad game

            For Libya did not fight, fact. But Libya’s army is different, it wasn’t air defense. The fact that Israel will bend its line is understandable, but this does not mean that it is not necessary to negotiate with it and it is not worth delaying the beginning of the intervention.
            1. Ruslan
              Ruslan 27 June 2012 11: 32
              -2
              Quote: GurZa
              If you follow your conclusions, then it turns out that Putin came to confirm that we do not need Syria, and Iran too? as I understand it?!
              Then it turns out that when the US president arrives in Russia, he seems to be loyal to us, cuts down submarines, destroys weapons ...... And they have a lot of rallies in their camp, Obama visited Moscow, he is loyal to the Russian, traitor No. 1. .... the logic is felt!
              - Understand the elementary thing - in a conflict of interest it goes - who is ready to make concessions. If there were no traitors in the Russian government, it would not be Putin but Netanyahu who would raise his fat ass and come to Moscow.
              Quote: GurZa
              For Libya did not fight, fact. But Libya’s army is different, it wasn’t air defense. The fact that Israel will bend its line is understandable, but this does not mean that it is not necessary to negotiate with it and it is not worth delaying the beginning of the intervention.
              - What did it mean that the discussion was about Gaddafi’s relations with Israel and how they built it - you feel the difference - Putin more and more resembles Gaddafi in his political actions (he is trying to agree with the devil) - despite the fact that the Americans openly declared that the Libyan scenario awaits Russia - Putin will most likely end up like Kadafi - stop the difference that the colonel gave his people the opportunity to live normally for 40 years, but Putin only promised 15 years - the Russian people know how to believe.
              1. Gurza
                Gurza 27 June 2012 12: 46
                0
                - Understand the elementary thing - in a conflict of interest it goes - who is ready to make concessions. If there were no traitors in the Russian government, it would not be Putin but Netanyahu who would raise his fat ass and come to Moscow.

                What kind of nonsense? You yourself read what you carry. Who said that someone who is ready to make concessions is coming? If that were the case, everyone would sit and not go anywhere. Netanyahu has behind the United States and he himself does not decide anything, where will he go? what will he say? who will he speak for? for the whole Alliance?
                Agreements and concessions ultimately help achieve the necessary goal, namely, the inadmissibility of intervention in Syria.
                I think there have long been conditions for what the 1 side does and what the other side does, all on mutually beneficial terms. Since the supply of C-300 has ceased, it means that the West will take some steps, we will see all this and will be able to reason further.
                Putin will most likely end up like Kadafi - stop the difference that the colonel gave his people the opportunity to live 40 years normally, but Putin only promised 15 years - the Russian people know how to believe.

                Of course, I do not like allegations, unlike you. But what you carry smells like paronoid delirium, conclusions are drawn based on news from the Internet and the president’s trips to the Middle East. Russia is not Libya. Recall 90? Then our state, to finish as Libya, had a much greater chance.
                1. Ruslan
                  Ruslan 27 June 2012 12: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: GurZa
                  Since the supply of S-300 has ceased, then the West will take some steps,
                  Go don't doubt occupation
                  Quote: GurZa
                  You yourself read what you carry. Who said that someone who is ready to make concessions is coming?
                  And suspension of deliveries of C300 what is it? And do not write more nonsense about concessions to the West - they are inferior to the current in one case if they can give them a snout and just C300 and they can
                  1. Gurza
                    Gurza 27 June 2012 12: 59
                    -1
                    Go don't doubt occupation

                    Are you so sure ?! What is unfounded, maybe it will, or maybe not, or do you know so much? If yes, then tell us feel free!
                    And suspension of deliveries of C300 what is it? And do not write more nonsense about concessions to the West - they are inferior to the current in one case if they can give them a snout and just C300 and they can

                    3 battalions are already standing + shells. But it’s precisely at the expense of the West that I’m not writing nonsense, they could have invaded Syria without Russia and China, they would have invaded, and if it doesn’t work, then we need to go into dialogue at least for the sake of achieving goals.
                    1. Ruslan
                      Ruslan 27 June 2012 13: 30
                      -1
                      Quote: GurZa
                      and if it doesn’t work, then you need to start a dialogue at least for the sake of achieving goals.
                      So is it the West or its satellites came to Moscow to negotiate and suspended the supply of weapons to the "peaceful" position? Learn not to lie to yourself with wishful thinking
                      1. Gurza
                        Gurza 27 June 2012 20: 42
                        0
                        So is it the West or its satellites came to Moscow to negotiate and suspended the supply of weapons to the "peaceful" position? Learn not to lie to yourself with wishful thinking

                        Are you kidding me? In general, I am very cautious in assessing this or that situation, you are yelling, although you really don’t know anything.
                        In short, we will not prove anything to each other, we will wait for the news, I just do not have the mood to argue ....
      2. korvin1976
        korvin1976 27 June 2012 10: 23
        +9
        Ruslan
        I agree, but the question remains - why did Putin at such a tense moment not go to China, Iran, (to the allies) but go to the very core of evil?

        Due to the fact that it is possible to reach an agreement with the allies more simply, by the same phone, especially if one considers that a common strategy may have already been worked out with them. But it is much more difficult to come to an agreement with the "enemies", and you have to go to them. At the moment, Israel is quite an important point in the Syrian crisis, and if Putin still succeeds in agreeing with their leadership on some kind of solutions to the Syrian crisis, then this will be a big plus.
        At the moment, I have not yet seen a single fact saying that our leadership wants to surrender to Syria.
        If you have such facts, please bring them to me.
        The SUSPENSION of the S-300 delivery to the category of these facts is not even considered.
  28. King
    King 27 June 2012 09: 43
    +1
    Ours again gave a slack well now get ready for retaliatory measures of the West. friendly Syria, we will soon not see. after the presidential election, the invasion of Syria will begin. they wanted to spit on the UN mandate. Iraq was uncovered without him. and what is happening right now in sobwez is a pun to buy time
    1. Gurza
      Gurza 27 June 2012 09: 54
      +1
      Yes, well, do you understand that?
  29. vorobey
    vorobey 27 June 2012 09: 53
    +3
    "If there is a break in future deliveries to Syria, it is likely that Rosoboronexport will not have any difficulties in providing weapons ordered by the Syrians ... to a third country."

    Reuters.com publishes this article.

    so c300 and Belarus can deliver, and any third party. And the transfer process is complicated, not only to bring. Maybe they’ve already brought it, but they haven’t passed it yet. It is packed in a box tied with a bow. Waiting for the holiday.
    1. Armata
      Armata 27 June 2012 10: 05
      +6
      Hello Sasha. The main thing is that he does not stand in this box for the whole holiday. And all the hype due to the fact that "some manager said that they had suspended" such sources cannot be strongly believed. But it is interesting to watch the reaction of some members of the forum "GDP traitor !!!!!!!!" wink .
    2. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 27 June 2012 10: 14
      +8
      Greetings winged !!!
      I absolutely agree with you!
      All-crawlers honestly got it !!!!
      How many knows how many complexes have already been delivered ???
      How many complexes are needed to triple overlap the entire airspace of Syria?
      How many complexes were suspended?
      Suspended delivery comprehensively, or just some part ???
      How many ammunition are available for existing complexes? How many C-200 systems are in service with Syria ???
      What part of them is modernized ???
      How many ammunition are available for 200 systems ???
      How much C-300 is Belarus ready to supply (which does not produce them)?
      The structure of Syrian air defense, given the area of ​​the country ???
      Lord gentlemen, answer at least half of these questions before yelling that they surrendered Syria !!!!
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 10: 55
        +2
        And if someone does not answer, we will beat, even with our feet. I’ll get the kirzachi poid, oh, I’m feeling there will be a holiday today on our street.
        1. Tirpitz
          Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 09
          +1
          The same “shells” that the Syrians hope so much for are short-range complexes (up to 18–20 km). And the UAB, at the disposal of the NATO countries and Israel, allows you to hit targets from a distance of up to 70 km, without even entering the Syrian airspace and avoiding unnecessary losses.
        2. nycsson
          nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 00
          -3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And if someone does not answer, we will beat, even with our feet. I’ll get the kirzachi poid, oh, I’m feeling there will be a holiday today on our street.

          See that you are not beaten ......... laughing
        3. with
          with 27 June 2012 17: 16
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          I’ll get the kirzachi poid, oh, I’m feeling there will be a holiday today on our street.

          A barren where cases propyl confess rogue?))) bully
      2. Tirpitz
        Tirpitz 27 June 2012 10: 57
        +2
        Here I found information about the air defense of Syria.
        It is armed “on paper” with over 900 air defense systems and over 4000 anti-aircraft guns of 23-100 mm caliber. Let's pay attention to the technical equipment of the Syrian air defense system: about 300 Syrian air defense systems fall on the S-75 "Dvina" and S-75M "Volga", 200 "Cube", 140 - on the C-125 "Neva" and C-125M "Pechora", 60 "Wasp"
        48 SAM long-range S-200 "Angara" and, roughly, "Vega" and "Dubna". It is no coincidence that at the end of March, the Americans carried out a special operation to destroy the remaining Libyans of the XNUMX with Tomahawk cruise missiles. NATO experts themselves admitted that the Soviet XNUMX remains a formidable enemy for the alliance's aviation even now.
        Unlike the same “XNUMX” which is not in Syria, capable of changing its position in half an hour after firing, The stationary “XNUMX” does not have such capabilities and, if detected, will be extremely vulnerable to enemy cruise missiles. And finally, it is important to note another weak point of the Syrian air defense — the radio-technical troops (RTV). The significant radar used by the Syrians is hopelessly outdated. This applies to the stations P-12, P-14, P-15, P-30, P-35, P-80, well known to the US military in Vietnam and the Arab-Israeli wars. True, the Syrians have more modern radars, such as the PRV-13 and PRV-16, adopted by the USSR Armed Forces back in the 1970s. and characterized by greater reliability, noise immunity and protection against defeat by anti-radar missiles. But this is not enough.
        1. DYMITRY
          DYMITRY 27 June 2012 11: 12
          +2
          Quote: Tirpitz

          Here I found information about the air defense of Syria.
          On its arms "on paper"

          Key word "on paper" Question for "5": what was brought to Syria on those ships that, without NATO inspection, came from Russia several times a month, at least for the last six months?
          1. Tirpitz
            Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 31
            0
            here the information about each UAZ is spread out as if the aircraft carrier were launched, and about the supplies to Syria s-300 100% was information. If not ours, then from Western sims. I have not seen one. Lay it out.
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 27 June 2012 11: 52
              +2
              Quote: Tirpitz

              here the information about each UAZ is propagated

              You do not confuse PR and arms supplies? The directors of the factories are paying, here are the magazines and trying, UAZs are giving out for aircraft carriers. And such a thing as the supply of weapons, require silence and grandeur. What came to Syria on those ships ???? I personally don’t know, so I’m probably sleeping without problems. But for some reason I’m sure that it was by no means a potato that was loaded into the holds. Especially judging by how the general people were indignant. Incidentally, it is also not profitable for them to yell about what we have delivered to Syria. Otherwise, the pilots will get scared and refuse to fly.
          2. Tirpitz
            Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 57
            +1
            Quote: DYMITRY
            Keyword "on paper"
            Here you are right, even on paper and in reality these are 2 big differences. In reality, you need to immediately subtract 30-40%. In Russia, on paper, 3 Orlans and a huge fleet, but in reality? Here it is.
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 14
          +1
          Tripizz is a standings! Tomorrow, so that everyone learns the whole text, I will personally check
          1. Tirpitz
            Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 33
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            so that everyone learns the whole text, I will personally check

            What is that supposed to mean?
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 June 2012 11: 41
              +1
              You do not need to learn anything, because you have provided material.

              You do not need to learn anything, because you have provided material.
        3. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 11: 15
          -4
          Quote: Tirpitz
          Here I found information about the air defense of Syria.

          This infa from what year? Judging by the outdated radar station, you dug some kind of "g..no mammoth" in the Internet laughing There was recently an infa about the modernization of the radar and S-300 in Syria
          1. Tirpitz
            Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 29
            +1
            Quote: Aleksey67
            This info from what year?


            The fact that the contract for the supply of C-300PMU-2 to Syria was concluded, according to a report for the past year, OAO Nizhny Novgorod Machine-Building Plant (NMZ), which is part of the Almaz-Antey Air Defense Concern.

            “To date, over 10 contracts for the supply of products and the provision of services are under implementation. Among them, the largest are contracts for the supply of products of S-300 complexes to Algeria worth $ 39 million and Syria - $ 105 million. The products under these contracts are planned to be shipped between 2012 and early 2013, ”the annual report says.

            It also indicates that Algeria (the “012 foreign customer”) in 2011 and 2012 had already transferred three C-300 divisions.

            The contract is concluded, deliveries are only planned (no longer planned). Information for 2012
            Nizhny Novgorod Engineering Plant OJSC, download this report for yourself, by the way there is also a state order. The site can be downloaded without problems.
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 02
            -4
            Quote: Aleksey67
            C-300 in Syria is

            Why such confidence?
        4. with
          with 27 June 2012 17: 18
          0
          Quote: Tirpitz
          Unlike the same “three hundred” which is not in Syria

          Who told you that?))) bully
      3. Mobidic
        Mobidic 27 June 2012 13: 47
        +1
        Quote: DYMITRY
        Lord gentlemen, answer at least half of these questions before yelling that they surrendered Syria !!!!

        Even the "friends" of Syria are unlikely to be able to answer all these questions with precision.
      4. nycsson
        nycsson 27 June 2012 15: 59
        -3
        Quote: DYMITRY
        How many knows how many complexes have already been delivered ???
        How many complexes are needed to triple overlap the entire airspace of Syria?
        How many complexes were suspended?
        Suspended delivery comprehensively, or just some part ???
        How many ammunition are available for existing complexes? How many C-200 systems are in service with Syria ???
        What part of them is modernized ???
        How many ammunition are available for 200 systems ???
        How much C-300 is Belarus ready to supply (which does not produce them)?
        The structure of Syrian air defense, given the area of ​​the country ???

        Have you answered these questions yourself? Here is a double edged sword! Or or....
    3. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 00
      +3
      Taking advantage of the respite largely due to the actions of Russia and China, Bashar al-Assad learned from the aggression against Libya and is trying to further strengthen his air defense. So, in mid-September, the Syrians took part in the exercises of the CIS Air Defense Forces “Combat Commonwealth” at the Russian Ashuluk training ground in the Astrakhan region. They did not hide the fact that they wanted to evaluate the combat capabilities of the latest modifications of the Russian long-range anti-aircraft missile systems C-300 “Favorite”, small “Tor” and medium “Buk”, in order to then strengthen their air defense with new air defense systems and upgrade existing ones.

      However, the time for possible deliveries of new equipment at Bashar Assad is running out. Moreover, the West and Israel each time put serious pressure on the Russian Federation when implementing such transactions (as, for example, the deal was for the supply of MiG-31E interceptors to Syria). Be that as it may, an additional impetus to the desire to strengthen its air defense was given to Bashar al-Assad by the events of September 2007 in the Der-az-Zur region, where The Israeli Air Force, with the help of the Americans, destroyed the Syrian secret facility guarded by the old Soviet S-125 air defense systems without any loss. However, the maximum that was achieved to increase the combat effectiveness of its air defense, Bashar al-Assad, is to get "beeches" and "shells", some of which are located along the border with Turkey.
    4. Ataturk
      Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 13
      -2
      Quote: vorobey
      "If there is a break in future deliveries to Syria, it is likely that Rosoboronexport will not have any difficulties in providing weapons ordered by the Syrians ... to a third country."


      An identical case was with Iran. What belonged to Iran, Rosoboronexport sold to Azerbaijan.

      I was not surprised and for some reason was sure that Russia would leave Syria. Maximum at the UN will talk. I already wrote about this a couple of days ago.

      In the process, time is being spent on preparing a strike on Syria. But this is all one way, one thing surprises me.

      Where is Iran? Why they are not helping Syria, why Iran is quiet, they shouted that we are the coolest of all the coolest.

      Here it is a two-faced policy !!!
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 22
        +1
        Omar, hello. 15000 Iranian fighters fighting on Assad’s side. Iran has recognized this. China also subsided. The situation is tense.
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay 27 June 2012 11: 28
          -1
          Dear Vorobey!
          Of course, Iran to the last and fiercely will defend Syria!
          But if Omar is already running his own generals, officers, soldiers, then what can the Iranians do ?? maximum extend the life of the regime!
        2. Ataturk
          Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 47
          -2
          Quote: vorobey
          Mar, hello. 15000 Iranian fighters fighting on Assad’s side.


          Good afternoon.
          Can I have a source?

          Quote: Yarbay
          But if Omar is already running his own generals, officers, soldiers, then what can the Iranians do ?? maximum extend the life of the regime!

          Well yes, you are right! just wondering 15000 soldiers and all? not technicians anything?
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 09
            +1
            As far as I know, the commander of the special forces “KSIR” spoke about the presence of Iranian special forces in Syria on Sunday, May 27, during a meeting with students. It is noted that after some time, Gaani’s interview was deleted from the ISNA website, where it was published.

            It is worth noting that the assumption that Iran is providing assistance to Assad appeared from the very beginning of the confrontation in the country. It was also reported that the Islamic Republic provided technical assistance to the Assad regime. The presence of Iranian special forces, in particular, was mentioned by fighters of opposition groups. In addition, there were rumors that the “IRGC” commander, Kassem Suleimani, had joined the Syrian government in wartime.
            http://www.novostimira.com.ua/news_21430.html
            Meanwhile, in the event of an invasion, the situation may worsen due to the fact that the Iranian army is already fighting on the side of the Syrian military. According to The Guardian, such recognition in an interview with ISNA was made by Ismail Gaani, deputy commander of the special forces of the El Quds Iranian army. Although the text of the interview was subsequently deleted from the site, nevertheless, the Iranian military admitted in it that Tehran sent troops to help Assad’s army, which supposedly avoided large casualties from the civilian population.



            “This is the first time that a senior officer has admitted that the Quds forces are operating in Syria. This may be due to the fact that the Iranian government feels the threat of growing isolation of Syria and fears that such isolation and the possible fall of Assad could harm Tehran’s interests in Syria. Having made such a confession, Iran sent a signal that those who want to confront Assad will face his experienced and powerful special forces, ”the Iranian-Israeli expert on the Middle East, Meir Javedanfar, quotes the publication.

            http://vz.ru/
      2. Reks
        Reks 28 June 2012 03: 39
        -1
        Quote: Ataturk
        Here it is a two-faced policy !!!
        winked You yourself are not a loser in politics. So where is the surprise. There is a game. 80 percent of death. Point your finger at the one who holds the cards on the table open and talks and discusses all the moves to the opponent. laughing
  30. lan76
    lan76 27 June 2012 09: 59
    +1
    Right now Vova came to power, and his essence will come out. Will he stand for Syria to the end or how Dima will surrender everything and everything
  31. Forget
    Forget 27 June 2012 09: 59
    +1
    Whether Assad is good or not, whether it is necessary to defend it or not, I don’t know .... but what needs to be done is to fulfill the agreements. Otherwise, everyone in the world will think that it’s better not to buy anything from Russia, it’s too easy refuse the contract, and the contract is known to be more expensive than money!
    1. Tirpitz
      Tirpitz 27 June 2012 11: 04
      +1
      On the reliability of Russia as a military supplier.

      What is the state of the MiG-31E deal? This question is correspondent win. ru personally asked the Syrian president Bashar al-Assad. Here is the answer: “The Syrian side has a number of questions about the state of aviation equipment from Russia. In addition, we are well aware that the forces of a likely adversary are noticeably superior to our own. And, taking into account the fact that the planes on the ground are vulnerable even to rain, we make the main bet with the further development of our air defense on the ground component less vulnerable to the enemy. "

      In this case, we are talking about anti-aircraft missile forces (ZRV). But, as the correspondent told win. ru source at the Academy of Aerospace Defense (EKO) them. Zhukov, this is an erroneous strategy, because you can’t rely solely on ZRV, forgetting about the development of fighter aircraft. Relying only on the “ground component,” President Assad is making a big mistake. “It seems that the Syrian side, fearing the inevitable in the event of hostilities attacks on air bases, initially gives its airspace into the hands of a potential enemy. And that means - from the very beginning, half to lose the conflict. After all, the combat capabilities of air defense are not limited to ZRV; you cannot fight with just one hand.

      The so-called “ground component” is less mobile, which means that it cannot respond quickly to threats from the enemy. On the contrary, fighter aircraft assembled into a fist can be thrown into threatened directions as soon as possible.

      During his reign, Bashar Assad repeatedly tried to modernize the Air Force and Air Defense, and in particular, to acquire Su-27 fighters and MiG-31E interceptors from Russia. The Syrians have been especially courting the Russian side since 2003, after the aggression against neighboring Iraq. However, the Israelis and the Americans made every effort to ensure that these transactions did not take place. Especially vehemently protested against the sale of Syria MiG-31-x Israel, although it was only six or eight of these machines. "Syria is clearly preparing for aggression!" - shouted the Israeli media, although the MiG-31 interceptor is intended solely to protect airspace and cannot deliver missile and bomb strikes. Nevertheless, Israel with American help was able to disrupt this deal.
  32. ATATA
    ATATA 27 June 2012 10: 01
    +3
    Just yesterday wrote koment with this news, I was a bit remembered. Well, I’ll survive. Here is a grasp of this http://newsru.co.il/israel/26jun2012/glonass_603.html

    just do not say that the site is Jewish. Immediately I will say carefully to read the phrase: "We will agree by the end of the year, I think. We must come to an agreement on the placement of our Russian station here (in Israel) in order to monitor THE INTEGRITY OF THIS SYSTEM", - RIA quotes Popovkin," but don't minus me too much, I didn't write it. )))
    Did you understand? The integrity of the GLONAS system will be monitored from Israel.
    And so all the rules, we rise from our knees.
    1. Guun
      Guun 27 June 2012 10: 24
      0
      Well, on that site http://newsru.co.il/israel/26jun2012/glonass_603.html
      I was embarrassed by the advertisement - Take the last step towards your dream of an American mosque to go live in the United States. It is clear whose site, ovsky.
    2. korvin1976
      korvin1976 27 June 2012 10: 43
      +4
      And what about the fact that the tracking station will be located in Israel?
      Israel is currently one of the convenient locations for this tracking station. Just here you need to understand the specifics of the GLONAS system.
      The station could also be located on our territory, but then it would not capture all the satellites of the eastern hemisphere.
      This station as such does not bear any strategic load, except for tracking GLONASS satellites. It is an intermediate link in the data transmission chain, and the link on which for the most part is little dependent.
      But the fact that the Russian station will be located in Israel is another matter. I suppose, if our leadership turned to the same USA with a similar request, it would be fun.
      The tracking station in Israel, again, can track not only our GLONASS satellites, but also "other" satellites, and not only. Have you thought about this possibility?
  33. zol1
    zol1 27 June 2012 10: 18
    0
    The decision was made after Putin visited Israel. Strange coincidence!
  34. Oleg the Great
    Oleg the Great 27 June 2012 10: 25
    -3
    So they surrendered Syria. Next on the list: Iran, Kuril Islands, Far East, Siberia.
    1. Brownie
      Brownie 27 June 2012 10: 30
      +1
      Quote: Oleg the Great
      So they surrendered Syria. Next on the list: Iran, Kuril Islands, Far East, Siberia.

      Exactly, Oleg! And so it will be! And some here "even piss in the eyes - all God's dew"!
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 27 June 2012 10: 52
        +11
        Yeah, the mustache is gone, the plaster is being removed. The client is leaving.

        Syria has not yet been bombed, and Assad is not striking on the run. And you scoundrels already surrender the Kuril Islands.

        "We are in the very real state of war in all its senses," Assad said to the members of the new Syrian government who took office on Tuesday. "When we wage a war, all decrees, all sides, all sectors must pursue one goal - to win the war."

        He criticized countries that called on him to step down, saying that the West "takes and never gives, and it always becomes obvious."

        "We want good relations with all countries, but we must know what our interests are," added Bashar al-Assad.
        http://warfiles.ru/show-9184-prezident-bashar-asad-obyavil-o-voyne-v-sirii.html
        1. Ataturk
          Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 10
          -1
          Quote: vorobey
          He criticized countries urging him to resign.


          Alas, if he leaves, they will find him wherever he is, and they will give him to the Hague Tribunal or how they will hang Saddam. In any case, he has no way back !!!
        2. Aleksey67
          Aleksey67 27 June 2012 11: 18
          -3
          Quote: vorobey
          Syria has not yet been bombed, and Assad is not striking on the run. And you scoundrels already surrender the Kuril Islands.

          Sasha, Urzh, thanks for the speech good
          Winged crushes alarmists drinks
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 33
            +6
            hello Lesha. all the life of sergeants, the svikh fought like garbage in one: even if you were crap and you were scared too much, give yourself the first voice.
            Itself passed such. You shout - for battle, and the soldiers will slander and prepare weapons, if you shout we will run, everyone will run. Whoever gives the order first is the one who listens.

            And these are not just alarmists. They are a problem for asenizatorov.
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 June 2012 11: 37
              +2
              That's right!
              the commander’s confidence is always transmitted to the soldiers as well as fear!
              I would go to you as sergeants! +
            2. Armata
              Armata 27 June 2012 11: 40
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              And these are not just alarmists. They are a problem for asenizatorov.

              I think that for dump trucks this is just not a problem but a job. And the problem of all the people who surround them is that they smell in the direction where the wind blows, and if the wind changes, they will smell in the other, posing as a life principle.
          2. Brownie
            Brownie 27 June 2012 11: 42
            +1
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Winged crushes alarmist drinks

            Who are you crushing ?! laughing You crush pimples on your ass! For 20 years, half of Europe has been sacrificed, Serbia has been surrendered, in Crimea you hang out on the buy-in "ah, don't drive it out", Serbian brothers over the knee, Iraq, Gaddafi, then Syria, then Iran! And that's it! And there the Motherland is not far off!
            You’re sitting here, cardboard marshal. Well, rye next! drinks
            1. Aleksey67
              Aleksey67 27 June 2012 12: 19
              +2
              Quote: Brownie
              You’re sitting here, cardboard marshal. Well, rye next!

              How already got these epaulettes and envious ... smile And in fact it is better to laugh than shit .. to spread out. However, if there is nothing else for the soul, and the insides demand, then all that remains is to get out on the site and offend people, knowing that not a fist will go into the snout from the monitor screen. Continue to "hero" the little ones wassat
              1. Odessa
                Odessa 27 June 2012 12: 38
                +7
                Aleksey67, all your comments for brownies, like an elephant with an ostrich! good
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 27 June 2012 13: 11
                  +5
                  Esther, this is tin.
                2. Brownie
                  Brownie 27 June 2012 18: 02
                  -1
                  Aleksey67, all your comments for brownies, like an elephant with an ostrich!


                  Lady, you forgot to clarify that the elephant is me, right ?! love
                  Thanks for the support. crying
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 12
                -4
                Quote: Aleksey67
                Continue to "hero" the little ones

                But this is a clear insult! No need to do this ........
              3. Brownie
                Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 45
                -2
                Quote: Aleksey67
                How already got these epaulettes and envious ...

                Got it? Crawl deeper! wink
                Quote: Aleksey67
                But in fact, it is better to laugh than shit .. m scatter.

                Well, yes, well, yes ... Like a thrown piece of shit, they say, you can stop a lion! But why do you need this information? "Neighing" in such a situation will suit you better!

                Quote: Aleksey67
                crawl out onto the site and insult people

                And where the hell did I offend one of your persons? request Only in response, and even then gently, so as not to hurt the delicate mental organization. Well, do not confuse the shore yourself, and there will be no questions.

                Quote: Aleksey67
                Continue to "hero" the wassat

                Here is an example of your cultural level! So there’s nothing to blame for the mirror, since the mug is crooked! drinks
            2. Odious
              Odious 27 June 2012 12: 23
              -5
              Brownie
              You are beautiful. +
            3. Yarbay
              Yarbay 27 June 2012 12: 24
              +2
              Brownie!
              What are you doing?
              Have you been spotted with a berdank in Serbia or Iraq with AK ??
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 32
                +3
                Alibek, what are you talking about? It is contraindicated for us computer mice. For this, there are field, and there are also laboratory ones. For us, they even came up with an alternative service.

                A plus.
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay 27 June 2012 12: 38
                  0
                  Understand Sparrow!
                  For me, Putin is also an inappropriate person!
                  A lot of corruption!
                  But if you soberly assess the current situation in Russia, it is clear to a little thinking person that not everything that Russia wants to do, and there are objective reasons for this!
                  Few people recall that when Syria asked to sell her the S-300 and the Shell of Russia had to write off 17 billion of the old debt of Syria to Russia and the USSR !!
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 27 June 2012 13: 10
                    +3
                    Alibek, you also know about my attitude.
              2. Brownie
                Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 35
                0
                Let's just say, not at the grocery base eat up! And it will not happen to me to sail on a white steamer to Turkey, and my loved ones! They didn't come out with a snout, or rather a nose and a surname! And rake the shit that will remain for me! And not suddenly emigrated! So I don't need to say "who are you" here.
          3. nycsson
            nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 09
            0
            Quote: Aleksey67
            Sasha, Urzh, thanks for the speech

            Look, do not mess with laughter .........
        3. Brownie
          Brownie 27 June 2012 11: 46
          +1
          Quote: vorobey
          Syria has not yet been bombed, and Assad is not striking on the run. And you scoundrels already surrender the Kuril Islands.

          Kuriles, 5-10 years old and will hand over the one for whom some scoundrels here voted and campaigned! Will surrender, just like the Chinese have sold disputed territories! Quiet, "no noise and dust. Cheap, reliable and practical" !!! So much for 38-70 CSOs!
          You will later say that you were sincere in your errors, and that it was such a military secret, to merge the interests of the motherland in the interests of the motherland !!!!
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 54
            +2
            Listen to the cockroach indoor. where have you been these twenty years, what have you been doing?
            1. Brownie
              Brownie 27 June 2012 11: 56
              -2
              Are you talking to the mirror ?! Well done. It's time to ask him these questions! And sober up before it’s too late. bully
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 04
                +2
                In addition to such phrases, you can still do something. You can call me anything. You’ll be afraid in the face. It’s weak even for you to answer the question, not to mention another.
                1. Brownie
                  Brownie 27 June 2012 12: 09
                  0
                  Oh, how you turned on the back briskly !! This I already "call" you. I don't care about you, you are not interesting to me, I am essentially speaking! What "face" are you talking about here ?! Do you crave a meeting? !!
                  I answer in essence: I studied, served and work! What else is needed from me by my venal Jew-Masonic government? And, yes, he would sit and keep quiet, singing odes to his prostitute foreign and domestic policy! laughing
                  1. vorobey
                    vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 17
                    +3
                    Your creature is rotten, as are your statements. But there is no specifics, only speculation.
                    Come from where it came from.
                    1. nycsson
                      nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 52
                      -3
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Your creature is rotten, as are your statements. But there is no specifics, only speculation.

                      From what? All he says is right!
                    2. Brownie
                      Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 27
                      -2
                      Quote: vorobey
                      Your creature is rotten, as are your statements.

                      And what statements are not rotten? Tell me, mister, with a liquid full of apple? laughing These are the ones that justify the drain of Russian interests by the great thoughts of the Juche ?! Or who are "ur-r-r-ryaya, naked ass..th on the Tamaghawk? !! laughing Good for you!

                      Quote: vorobey
                      But there is no specifics, only speculation.


                      Pure kaankretna ask! Use will! Just do not smear for me, speak for analytics on the topic! bully

                      Quote: vorobey
                      Come from

                      How?!! Already!?? belay Well, I just appeared today! recourse

                      laughing laughing laughing
                      1. vorobey
                        vorobey 27 June 2012 18: 03
                        +4
                        For the very understanding. Went to n out. time will judge.

                        And about you and reluctance to get dirty ignoramus. At least one fact would lead. not general phrases. only stupid Jerusalem confuses with Bethlehem and further on points.
                      2. Brownie
                        Brownie 27 June 2012 18: 18
                        -2
                        For the very understanding. Went to n out.


                        Cardilion fool! Again the back included under a plausible excuse? laughing Yes, because you are young, inexperienced, you have no concepts of your own, you sway beyond the direction of the breeze. Well play, play ...

                        Quote: vorobey
                        time will judge.

                        Yeah, I just want you to be in the country by that time, and have experienced everything that my long-suffering people have again been measured out by the elite.

                        Quote: vorobey
                        And reluctance to get dirty about you

                        And who are you hunting for? wink laughing You tie with this habit, get dirty, cleanliness is the guarantee of health! Take an example from me - I never get dirty! laughing

                        Quote: vorobey
                        only stupid jerusalem jerusalem confuses with bethlehem

                        Only a dumb one will not understand that these are insignificant details! Analyze who he met and shared with there, and then emphasize to me inaccuracy. what

                        Quote: vorobey
                        and then point by point.

                        And on which specifically, let me inquire? !! laughing
                      3. nycsson
                        nycsson 27 June 2012 18: 31
                        -4
                        Quote: vorobey
                        For the very understanding. Went to n out. time will judge.

                        fool fool fool
                  2. nycsson
                    nycsson 27 June 2012 16: 51
                    -6
                    Quote: Brownie
                    I answer in essence: Studied, served and work

                    You put the pros everywhere! You say it right! Do not see what is happening with our country, can only be blind or someone to whom this situation is beneficial!
                    1. Oleg0705
                      Oleg0705 27 June 2012 23: 24
                      0
                      Quote: nycsson
                      You put the pros everywhere!


                      Sherkhan got himself? lol
  35. Yarbay
    Yarbay 27 June 2012 10: 36
    0
    Gentlemen just read one piece of news!
    it seems to me what we are discussing, unverified information !!
    http://www.trend.az/regions/met/arabicr/2040577.html
    That is, the contract is in the report of the enterprise, it is canceled!
    1. Ataturk
      Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 07
      -1
      Quote: Yarbay
      it seems to me what we are discussing, unverified information !!

      You are mistaken. Our sites also write about the suspension of supplies of S-300


      Syria was left without the S-300

      Russia suspended the implementation of the contract for the supply of Syria anti-aircraft missile systems S-300 PMU-2.

      As the Vedomosti newspaper writes on June 26, citing sources in the Russian military-industrial complex, the shipment of the S-300 to Syria was canceled "as directed from above." According to Lenta.ru, the Russian side has concluded contracts with Algeria and Syria for the supply of S-300 worth 39 and 105 million dollars, respectively.

      Deliveries were supposed to be completed in 2012 - early 2013. The shipment of three S-300 divisions to Algeria, according to the representative of Rosoboronexport, has already taken place.

      http://defence.az/news/a-1698.html

  36. IRBIS
    IRBIS 27 June 2012 10: 41
    +2
    The decision on the visits of the head of state (our president) is planned not one day or even a month before it. Therefore, it is clearly premature to link Putin's visit to the Middle East with some kind of newspaper "duck". No need to shake the veins, no one has passed anyone yet! And the fact that Jews live in Israel does not mean that everyone who comes there is a Jew. Marasmus! And the fact that the Israelis do not "smile" at all to have a country headed by "Muslim brothers (or other" brothers ") at their side, Russia is simply obliged to use in its political steps. In this situation, any, even a temporary ally, will not interfere. The Palestinians want to name Putin's honor, the news should be watched more attentively And now - Putin is a Palestinian, right?
  37. party3AH
    party3AH 27 June 2012 10: 44
    +2
    On the same day, in Ankara, they said that Turkey at a NATO meeting on Tuesday could offer the Allies to regard the destruction of the Turkish fighter by the Syrian air defense as a fact of attack on the entire alliance.
    The rats are getting worried, again Syria is not a "tyrant of the people", so they expose NATy as the aggressor, well, can't anyone put these freaks in their place ???
  38. Hammer
    Hammer 27 June 2012 10: 52
    0
    here is more recent information, the S-300 is not supplied, and the rest seems to be according to plan:
    http://warfiles.ru/show-9179-siriya-v-blizhayshee-vremya-poluchit-ot-rossii-esch
    e-bolshe-oruzhiya.html
  39. Ataturk
    Ataturk 27 June 2012 11: 04
    +1
    A couple of days ago, I wrote that if Russia does not deliver Syria the S-300, I will know who the Kremlin is working for.
    To be honest, I was expecting such an act, since the Russian authorities have already once, so they threw Iran. My predictions come true, alas. If this goes so, then the documentary and the broadcast that the West is trying to create a single world state is true !!! Sorry.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 11: 48
      +1
      “Arutz Sheva”, Israel
      Russia sent super-advanced S-300 missiles to Syria

      On Thursday, it was reported that Russia delivered advanced S-300 missiles to Syria, and also sent experts to help the Syrians use this system.
      Russian ships that recently reached the territorial waters of Syria, among other things, brought technical advisers to help the Syrians deploy the batteries of S-300 missiles received by Damascus in the past weeks, the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Quds Al Arabi said in a statement. Quoting sources in Syria and Russia, the newspaper writes that Moscow considers the Western attack on Syria to be a red line, which Moscow will not tolerate.

      Despite growing opposition in the West and even in the Arab world to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad because of his attacks on protesters who want to overthrow him from his post, Russia continues to support Assad, the report said. The Russian and Syrian military are working together to preserve Assad’s rule and repel a possible attack from NATO or the United States and the European Union.

      In addition to missiles, the report said, Russia has installed advanced radar installations at all key military and industrial facilities. Radar systems also cover areas north and south of Syria, where they can detect the movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian borders. Radars target most of Israel, as well as the Turkish Incirlik military base, which is used by NATO forces.

      The S-300 system is considered one of the most powerful missile defense systems. The radar of this system can simultaneously track up to a hundred and attack up to 12 targets. The deployment of the S-300 system takes five minutes, and the service life is very long, and it does not require maintenance.

      Russia tried to sell this system to Iran, however, under pressure from the United States and Israel, the sale was canceled and Russia returned the security deposit paid to Iran. According to the report, Iran paid for the S-300 delivered to Syria. Whether individual missiles were delivered to Iran is unknown.

      Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150059#.T-q6nnXYLWS
      1. Brownie
        Brownie 27 June 2012 11: 56
        +1
        Good copy paste! See the date!

        First Publish: 11/24/2011, 1:15 PM
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 12: 24
          +2
          That's it they have long been standing there! More precisely from the twentieth of January 2012
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 36
            +3
            Sith, you need to think about it, but he is not inclined. I got used to the pattern as the brains were reflashed and it works.
            1. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 13: 06
              0
              Unfortunately, only one division ...
            2. Brownie
              Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 10
              -4
              And think a little? Weak? Or does the call contract get in the way? Are we talking about those that "possibly" have already been delivered in 2011? !! He is talking about new deliveries! Who are you accusing here for lack of brains ?!

              I'm used to the pattern as the brains were reflashed and it works

              It’s bad that you don’t reflash yours! With what apparently went to kindergarten, and with these you live, without dynamics. laughing
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 27 June 2012 14: 38
      0
      Quote: Ataturk
      the West is trying to create a single world state, is true !!

      I remember! I supported you then! And at the expense of the world government and a single state - this is no longer news!
  40. pavlo007
    pavlo007 27 June 2012 11: 13
    -4
    Well, dear putinoids?
    Didn’t they tell the tsar again? Why are you so stupid!
    1. Brownie
      Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 14
      -1
      But the jester knows why! Here the whole modern history of the Russian state is entirely the sale of the interests of the people in favor of the interests of the clans! And not Russian! But they don’t see! laughing

  41. Chemist
    Chemist 27 June 2012 11: 14
    0
    If this infarmation is true, then it can be assumed that management does not plan to intervene in a future conflict.
    This is very sad, the plan to seize control over "everything" in the Middle East is being unimpeded by the Americans. It's rubbish.
  42. anchonsha
    anchonsha 27 June 2012 11: 16
    +1
    What a howl and dissonance in the comments on the article ... just a little more and they will spit on each other. Try to be sober in international politics: this is not what I just wrote in a comment and forgot right away. The history of mistakes does not forgive. Everything is rightly done by our politicians in this situation in the Middle East. It is necessary to find a common language with everyone and get along where it is beneficial to Russia. The same is true in the solution and with the S-300 systems. The supply contract is not so easy to suspend, but this is currently demanded by the situation. And on the other hand, it is our money, our labor, nobody just gave us nothing for nothing. We provide loans, and the same Syria buys our weapons for our loans. Without pants. There in the comments you hear that Putin is stealing, and immediately the commenter screams for everyone to give Syria, to scream again that Putin is stealing. This is the policy in our comments ... weird ...!
    1. korvin1976
      korvin1976 27 June 2012 15: 33
      +3
      anchonsha
      You're 99% right
      They’ll just shout out to the people, if only to gossip about the fix, they know what, but looking at the world more sensibly and events is something like laziness for us.
      The same thing is being discussed, the same garbage, only a side view, but neither .......... nor who raised the topic WHY this is happening! More precisely "raised", some desperate pessimists awaiting the end of the world and walking in foil hats, others are total optimists who see the world through rose-colored glasses.

      I repeat again.

      Why the Syrian order was SUSPENDED, or rather, not the order, but the delivery.
      What to carry that? How to deliver this order? By sea? They will not give, they will again take away the marine insurance. By plane? I'm afraid that the S-300 won't fit into the plane. By train? Yeah, we'll take military equipment through Turkey. Can anyone have any other suggestions? Maybe someone has hidden some teleport, what would be the time and "S-300" in Syria?

      What is all the fuss about? They will deal with the delivery method and deliver the goods to Syria. Yes, there is a delay and this is bad, but if anyone has any substantive suggestions about the delivery of this cargo, I’ll ask you to inform me, and not just me, but it’s better immediately to those who will send this cargo.

      It seems that I look in a book, I see a fig or from the same opera: I farted on one side of the village, and they said that it was crap.

      Read carefully, and not only read, be able to analyze what you read not only in the text, but also in the light of the surrounding events. Otherwise, paranoia will develop first, and then schizophrenia.

      I apologize for the tone and some uncultured words, there is simply no strength to read the nonsense that many respected people bear in their comments.
  43. gispanec
    gispanec 27 June 2012 11: 22
    -2
    These articles seem to have little in common with reality, so I found the article interesting, look and decide if it is true or not ... http: //warfiles.ru/show-9125-rossiya-vozvraschaetsya-na-kubu.html.
  44. Guun
    Guun 27 June 2012 11: 26
    0
    Soon in Kazakhstan we will beat RPGs from behind bushes using NATO technology, they will surrender Syria, which means they can surrender us later. My opinion.
  45. Drugar
    Drugar 27 June 2012 11: 38
    -5
    In recent months, it has already become clear that Assad is losing ground, and the Russian leadership is not completely idiots (I really hope) in order to support a previously failed adventure.
    BUT, do not be hysterical, gentlemen, if the government still retained even a drop of brains, they will try not to get involved in the war ( When the urapatriots will understand that we will not pull the war now!), and Assad's care to issue with the maximum benefit for himself. It is possible that negotiations are already underway and the West will promise to leave the navy base behind Russia, and we, in turn, will persuade Basharik to move to the Moscow region, especially since he can pay for the hut and move good
    1. Guun
      Guun 27 June 2012 11: 41
      0
      It has begun. The theater for world domination has opened and begun!
      The Turks sent the military to the border of Syria.
      http://warfiles.ru/show-9190-turciya-perebrasyvaet-voyska-k-granice-s-siriey.htm
      l
    2. Ruslan
      Ruslan 27 June 2012 11: 44
      +4
      Quote: Drugar
      In recent months, it has already become clear that Assad is losing ground, and the Russian leadership is not completely idiots (I really hope) in order to support a previously failed adventure.
      BUT, do not be hysterical, gentlemen, if the government still retained even a drop of brains, they will try not to get involved in the war (when the urapatriots already understand that we will not drag out the war now!), And execute Assad’s withdrawal with maximum benefit for himself. It is possible that negotiations are already underway and the West will promise to leave the navy base behind Russia, and we, in turn, will persuade Basharik to move to the suburbs, especially since he can pay for the hut and relocation himself
      - HERE is a pattern of thought TRAITOR
      Two years ago, the United States offered Assad to betray the interests of Russia - he did not betray - to betray the one who did not betray you - this is such an abomination that will not be washed off not only once - in Russia then it will be possible to put an end to it.
      1. party3AH
        party3AH 27 June 2012 11: 53
        +3
        Quote: Ruslan
        Two years ago, the United States offered Assad to betray the interests of Russia - he did not betray - to betray the one who did not betray you - this is such an abomination that will not be washed off not only once - in Russia then it will be possible to put an end to it.

        Exactly the same opinion.
      2. Drugar
        Drugar 27 June 2012 12: 01
        -1
        A true patriot will never put an end to Russia! In the worst of times, you need to love your homeland, even without reciprocity, because this is true love.
        This is a word about traitors.
        Unfortunately, I did not find a "sample of thought" in your comment.
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan 27 June 2012 12: 31
          +1
          Quote: Drugar
          A true patriot will never put an end to Russia!
          A true patriot does not when he does not betray the friends of Russia and thereby does not put an end to it.
          Quote: Drugar
          and Assad's care with maximum benefit for themselves
          - I still didn’t read more Jewish cynicism then you will sell your homeland to your advantage.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 June 2012 15: 58
            +1
            Ruslan, whipped and to the point.
          2. Drugar
            Drugar 27 June 2012 18: 10
            0
            In general, giving out your friends as friends throughout Russia is at least ridiculous, but, as a maximum, I advise you to see a doctor until the disease has acquired a socially dangerous form ..
            Without a doubt, if you possessed intelligence, you would have already noticed that politics is a search for consensus, an attempt to please one, not to quarrel with others and, at the same time, to defend your interests. That is how politicians all over the world act and Russia is no exception. Follow the news portals on the Internet, analyze articles, in a word, start thinking with your head.
            Are there few examples when yesterday's friends turned into sworn enemies, and vice versa ...
            There are no friends in politics. This is the truth that more or less thinking people have already understood, unfortunately it passed you by.
      3. Brownie
        Brownie 27 June 2012 17: 18
        -2
        Quote: Ruslan
        Two years ago, the United States offered Assad to betray the interests of Russia - he did not betray - to betray the one who did not betray you - this is such an abomination that will not be washed off not only once - in Russia then it will be possible to put an end to it.

        Yes Nah !!!! This is such a tactical trick !!! The tsar’s father sits in Keremle and knows how to nadot with those who did not betray us! Right now he says that he can’t sell the s-300, but he himself will deliver the Topol to Syria by the quiet division, that’s why you hate Putin-haters! What a wise leader he is! Something like this! wassat
        1. Ruslan
          Ruslan 27 June 2012 18: 57
          0
          Quote: Brownie
          Right now he says that he can’t sell the s-300, but he himself will deliver the Topol to Syria by the quiet division, that’s why you hate Putin-haters!
          God forbid - I'm not a Putin non-independent
          1. Brownie
            Brownie 27 June 2012 20: 34
            -3
            Ruslan, yes it’s not for me, rather, with a bullet to the head! laughing
  46. vorobey
    vorobey 27 June 2012 11: 44
    +4
    Interesting article. Finally I read all the comments. I don’t know what about the C300, but how they began to take off their masks. And surprisingly there are so many participants today. As if waiting in ambush.
    1. Ruslan
      Ruslan 27 June 2012 12: 45
      0
      Quote: vorobey
      Interesting article. Finally I read all the comments. I don’t know what about the C300, but how they began to take off their masks. And surprisingly there are so many participants today. As if waiting in ambush.
      Russian society is split into two camps 1 - this is the majority - which was thrown in 1991. 2 - this is the minority that has profited from the majority’s palms and upholds liberal dermocratic values ​​- so that they won’t take away. So in the near future this minority will have to go through the experience of Russians in Tajikistan and Chechnya - they still have to learn the values ​​of Muslim extremists sponsored by Jewish money. This value lies on the tip of the knife and smoothly with cut human skin. And Hiroli Clinton looking at these things in the news will scream WOW - as with the news about the death of Gaddafi
    2. korvin1976
      korvin1976 27 June 2012 15: 35
      +2
      I myself am surprised at the quantity and "quality". Apparently the full moon is coming
  47. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 27 June 2012 11: 47
    +1
    apparently soon to wait for the invasion of victorious shit-democratic forces of NATO in Syria ....
  48. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 11: 48
    0
    “Arutz Sheva”, Israel
    Russia sent super-advanced S-300 missiles to Syria

    On Thursday, it was reported that Russia delivered advanced S-300 missiles to Syria, and also sent experts to help the Syrians use this system.
    Russian ships that recently reached the territorial waters of Syria, among other things, brought technical advisers to help the Syrians deploy the batteries of S-300 missiles received by Damascus in the past weeks, the Arabic-language newspaper Al-Quds Al Arabi said in a statement. Quoting sources in Syria and Russia, the newspaper writes that Moscow considers the Western attack on Syria to be a red line, which Moscow will not tolerate.

    Despite growing opposition in the West and even in the Arab world to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad because of his attacks on protesters who want to overthrow him from his post, Russia continues to support Assad, the report said. The Russian and Syrian military are working together to preserve Assad’s rule and repel a possible attack from NATO or the United States and the European Union.

    In addition to missiles, the report said, Russia has installed advanced radar installations at all key military and industrial facilities. Radar systems also cover areas north and south of Syria, where they can detect the movement of troops or aircraft towards the Syrian borders. Radars target most of Israel, as well as the Turkish Incirlik military base, which is used by NATO forces.

    The S-300 system is considered one of the most powerful missile defense systems. The radar of this system can simultaneously track up to a hundred and attack up to 12 targets. The deployment of the S-300 system takes five minutes, and the service life is very long, and it does not require maintenance.

    Russia tried to sell this system to Iran, however, under pressure from the United States and Israel, the sale was canceled and Russia returned the security deposit paid to Iran. According to the report, Iran paid for the S-300 delivered to Syria. Whether individual missiles were delivered to Iran is unknown.

    Source: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/150059#.T-q6nnXYLWS
  49. Rockets
    Rockets 27 June 2012 11: 50
    +2
    It’s not clear WHERE YOU ALL TAKEN THAT RUSSIA HAS TO DELIVER THE S-300 ?????
    Buk-M2E yes. Armor C-1 yes. MiG 29 yes Repair and modernization of air defense systems, Aviation yes!
    Contract No., date, for the supply of S-300 to the studio
    If not, DO NOT STAR!

    Got it! There are rumors here and there, and the toothless old women carry them in the corners (C)
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 27 June 2012 12: 26
      +1
      I published another S-300 article above there a long time ago.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 27 June 2012 12: 49
        +1
        Sith, let him read the next news. there is just mentioned.
  50. vladimir64ss
    vladimir64ss 27 June 2012 12: 01
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    Like it or not, but this is a deflection. Western media are already mocking. All the same, I think that this is a tactical move.
    1. Trapperxnumx
      Trapperxnumx 27 June 2012 17: 19
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      vladimir64ss,
      laughs well the one who laughs last. I agree with the opinion of one of the commentators that after the situation with turntables, we simply do not have the ability to transport the complexes. We did not refuse BUKs, for their transportation does not cause such difficulties. And the Western media can mock as much as their vile little souls like - anyway, listen to the howling of jackals and hyenas.